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now that the dust has settled
who was in the wrong here

 

>>543553
internet drama, twitter or whatever this is is not real.

 

>>543553
I talked to a Third Worldist twitter celebrity on a protest the other week and we were making Phil Greaves jokes about how everything is fascist but I don't think the Trotskyites got it. I forgot his twitter handle though unfortunately, probably could just text him but he stopped replying to me after I kept begging him to come to my talk.

 

>star wars is fascist
no its anti imperial subverterd for imperial propaganda
>harry pooter os fascist neo feudal dreck
true
>british soap operas are fascist
most of them are, but that one movie anthony hopkins was in where he absolutely mogged the nazi aristocrat by bartleby the scrivinering him wasn't too bad
>scifi is generally fascist
true
>ironic detachment is fascist
i dunno wat that is
>porn is fascist
no it is revolutionary, problem moralist?
>masscult under imperialism is inherently fascistic
sure

 

i remember this guy and red kahina and how they got into fights with like sam kriss or will menaker or whatever it was awesome

 

>>543560
>i dunno wat that is
i think hes referring to how recent generations tend to treat everything as a joke and can never sit down, relax and be serious for a moment. think of meme culture for example

 

>>543563
okay, but i think there's another side to it where people take things TOO serious and it loops around to being fascist again, like porn.

 

>>543563
ironic detachment was meant for dirtbags, at the time, phil greaves' biggest ideological opponents

 

>>543561
can you find the fight with will menaker? that sounds like a fun read.

 

>>543566
no, phil greaves has his account locked lol, and twitter search sucks nowadays

 

>>543557
did they know that he is also 'Leninhat' ?

 

>>543568
i remember he became an anti vaxxer back in 2021 and apparently a transvestigator later? didnt get to see that era but that sounds hilarious

 

Does anyone else miss the time from 2013-2016 when tankies were lolcows and not crypto-fascists?

Phil Greaves, Espresso Stalinist, Red Kahina, the widely acclaimed speaker, writer, journalist, and political analyst Caleb Maupin before he went total Strasserist, the people behind “Zizek Delenda Est”, the tankies who tried debunking the Big Bang because it goes against DiaMat, etc?

 

>>543632
>Does anyone else miss the time from 2013-2016 when tankies were lolcows and not crypto-fascists?
they still are
>Phil Greaves, Espresso Stalinist, Red Kahina
>not crypto-fascists?
they always were.

 

>Star Wars is fascist
yes
>Harry Potter is fascist neo-feudal dreck
definitely
>selfie-obsession is fascist
yes
>British soap operas are fascist
never seen any so idk
>sci-fi is generally fascist
yes because a lot of it was influenced by 50s golden age AmeriKKKan sci-fi
>ironic detachment is fascist
arguably yes
>porn is fascist
yes
>Masscult under imperialism is inherently fascistic
I think there are examples of capital accidentally giving a platform to interesting ideas/themes but it was more of a thing in the 20th century. mass culture in the 21st century has gradually become more fascistic because there's almost no room for anything in mass culture anymore besides bloated spectacles that cost hundreds of millions of dollars to make. it's no accident that the only mass culture left in the 21st century has largely ended up being superhero shit (which is the most fascist).

 

>>543632
>when tankies were lolcows and not crypto-fascists?
tomayto tomahto

 

>>543641
The original Star Wars trilogy was anti-imperialist.

 

>>543647
George Lucas has surprisingly based opinions on Soviet film so I will give him that, but as far as I'm concerned Star Wars is effectively fascist propaganda even if it came out of a cultural context of New Hollywood and the Vietnam War being a recent thing. the reason why I'll defend this take is because Star Wars does the thing that ever other piece of Hollywood liberalism does where the Nazis are portrayed as being really cool and powerful when this is actually a completely ahistorical take on fascism that just ends up making it seem like something alluring if only for the moral problems with it. that's pretty much how the Empire is portrayed and anyone who doesn't like the Sith more than the Jedi is just a fucking loser nerd who missed the whole point.

 

>>543632
>>543640
I've been asking what a tankie is all over the place and I've never gotten the same answer twice, are the Yankees in the room with us now?
What do they look like? What do they say to you?


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