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>>619037>hystericalbruh the richest man in the world is looting the US treasury right now, trillions of dollars impacting millions of lives, there's no such thing as "hysterical" anymore
they are destroying the very concept of being trans and also working backwards to get gays next
the only reason most people act like everything's fine is because the media wants us to be cattle and we don't know any other way to live, we just default to normalcy regardless of stimuli
>>619061>they are destroying the very concept of being transso they're abolishing gender? based.
alarmist shill go home
>>619061>looting the US treasuryhow is this a concern to communists LMAO
>they are destroying the very concept of being transhow do you destroy a concept
>the media wants us to be cattleah yes everyone but you is stupid and media is like some literal SCP
every election is the most important election of our lifetimes, eh?
>>618994Makeup +
>>619017 + skincare + working out + fashion that sells twink or feminine asethetic
>>619015Checking your privlige in real time.
>>619302>>619304>>619211Being brown isn't the problem.
Irony is, white guys especially in Anglo countries tend to age like shit. Also being chubby isn't a problem. Just don't have more fat on your belly than on your ass
>>619304I'm sides and have a tiny 13 to 14cm dick
It's over
>flood bla bla bla >>619365You're right, instead we should say those queers who own property and considerable reserves participate in bourgeois electoralism are not petit-bourgeois but rather proletarians who have been brainwashed by the "wrong" set of ideas (the "right" ideas being voting for a different bourgeois party apparently) and then waste a lot of time wondering how this could be while ignoring the obvious reason that has already been stated. Truly scientific analysis of the current state of affairs.
Oh and we are using dating apps as statistical evidence now it seems.
>>619391>very arbitrary definition of these categoriesAs nebulous as the petit-bourgeois can be, it's not as arbitrary as you're making it out to be. It's literally just everyone literally
in the middle of the reserveless propertyless worker and the stupidly rich part of the bourgeoisie. Pretty much all proper citizens of bourgeois society who get to reap the benefits of capitalism in one way or the other unlike the immiserated wage worker.
>>618934Someone needs to recreate the men jerking off porn thread
I'm sick heteroid males having a monopoly over porn here
>>619205when most people talk about "queerness" and the "dynamics" of "queer" relationships, I imagine what they mean is essentially having the male and female gender roles be more fluid rather than rigidly defined by someone's gender. this is already not really a high bar, because really there shouldn't be any kind of roles like this whatsoever, there should be no designated active/male and passive/female roles at all, not even ones that individuals can move in and out of, but what I've observed and experienced is that even then most "queers" don't get beyond the mark of sex. it's relatively common for anyone whose idea of sex is downstream of gay male culture and "queerness" in general to still adhere to some kind of biological essentialism in addition to a pseudo-gender dualism; there has to be someone who is a top and someone who is a bottom and usually if you have the equipment to top then you have to be the top, and if you don't then you can't be a top and have to be a bottom. this is of course assuming that this dichotomy is even meaningfully different from heterosexuality or desirable, which it really isn't. the dualistic structure of active/passive makes it so to varying degrees everyone has to embody some role instead of there being a free flowing of desire.
this is why functionally most "queers" are just doing an abstracted version of straightness.
>>620425I'm sick of the desire to dog on straight males at any turn.
You seriously can't do that yourself? Are you retarded?
Are you a fucking parasite that jerks it to those threads and contributes nothing?
>>620435Shut up.
>>621045>>621046At what point do you concede it's pathetic and unproductive?
The poster literally couldn't bother to make a thread.
Dumbass' probably gonna blame straight males on their shoes being untied and wish we live in a world of velcro shoes or some dumb bullshit.
>>621061God you're so impressively unlikable, when was the last time you accomplished anything in your life?
>>621053I did think about them, and they should *do* something.
I didn't go
> Damn I wish there was femboydom porn :( Damn straight moids!!!!!!I hunted it down and now have 300+ gb of that good stuff.
Even after growing annoyed of right clicking and saving, I didn't go
> I wish someone downloaded a collection for me to download allllll at once :( , damn straigh moids!!!!!! I learned wget as much as I can, I learned beautifulsoup4 after realizing how fucking stupid wget is, I learned a scraper to mass pirate onlyfans content to chew through, etc.
Being gay doesn't mean having sub human intelligence that fucking wokescolds people and acts like a giant useless parasitical worthless baby – it means you're a HUMAN BEING that can be and do anything they want, that just so happens to not being interested in straight sex.
t.bi
God I hate liberal feminism and its rape.
>>621274The last sentence was a little spergy I'll admit, but like that asking instead of starting reminds me of that self-helplessness that is frustrating to deal with.
It's not as bad as people online being like
> {Insert video}< Man I wish someone would make that into a gif!But it's still that thinking that denies your individuality and just holds you back.
Maybe it's more annoying to me since my adhd stops me from doing shit, so to see people who have the privlige of a brain with proper executive function and dopamine receptors working, deeply annoys me.
But then again I talk to people who'll have X issue, (like bad internet connection), and just don't do anything about it, just complain (like calling that damn it guy).
(Plus there's incidental frustrations, like it's difficult to find certain porn since search engines suck, so those who enjoy it should contribute as much as possible.)
>>621068I made it as a partial joke/genuine sharing of my tastes after seeing so much femdom threads.
I don't ever know how many people actually enjoyed it, especially with me being 90% of the posts, but still I was happy that someone out there was genuinly happy and looking forward to my posts.
(Shame I let them down, but that thread needed to be resetted after leftypol lost all the images. Plus I need to setup a system to render those videos; very taxing on a laptop to turn a 1gb video to a 80mb file).
>>621383
>This is a straight ally- and bi-inclusive alternative to the LGBT+ thread, free of radlibs and negativity.
Thread theme.
The Miracles - Ain’t Nobody Straight in L.A.
<[Outro]
>"Hey, man, let's ride out"
<"Yeah c'mon, man!"
>“I mean that's cool with me, uh, where we gon' go?”
<"Hey, look, man, I know where a real hip place is on Sunset Boulevard and there's another place on La Cienega that's really…"
>"Nah, nah, I know this bad place on Hollywood Boulevard"
<"Hey, wait a minute, wait a minute, Bill, that place you took me the other night …"
>"Yeah?"
<"Hey, but wait a minute, man, that's a gay bar"
>"Hey, man, ain't nothing but gay bars in Los Angeles"
<"Yeah, Bill, that might be true though, but, uh … you know some of the finest women are in the gay bar"
>"Hey, but dig, Bob, how do you know they women?"
<"Well … uh … hey, man, look, well, look. Gay people are nice people too, man"
>"Yeah, let's go, man! Let's go, man!"
>>621384>first for boys are cuteHeh, just wanted to add a number 'cause it's obligatory but it might as well be the real meaning.
SLGBT General 1: Boys are Cute Edition.
Can I give highly controversial opinions on "gender dysphoria?" Let me preface this by saying, I am a firm believer in live and let live, if however you choose to live your life doesn't hurt anyone else, I believe you should be free to do it, and you are free to do it. There is no way to keep people from doing whatever they want to themselves certainly. If I believe a certain behavior to be "self-harm" nobody can stop you from self-harming unless you are locked up in a facility permanently, and even then it's probably impossible to control.
So second preface before I get to my point: I believe every adult should be able to take whatever drug, get whatever surgery they desire, blahh blahh blahh.
BUT, should I not be able to state my opinion on things given I respect your right to do them? I can say injecting heroin, is no bueno, injection is a terrible method of drug administration because it collapses veins, leads to infections, spread of HIV etc. If the prohibition was lifted, you could have so much heroin you could just eat it, even if that's a less effective method of administration, but you have so much heroin it doesn't matter.
So: On "gender dysphoria" how do we usually treat other "dysphorias?" Is it to say, your dysphoria is correct, and we should try and shape immutable physical reality to entertain your delusions? Let us ask ourselves, what is easier to change, your mental attitude or literally all the chromosomes in all the cells in your body? If there was a method to change your chromosomes like that, I say hell, knock yourself out. Go flip your biological sex everyday if you feel like it. But we don't have that kind of technology.
>>621608You know, and I'd like to have a discussion. I respect how you all are on edge because of the extreme hatred and persecution you face. I don't hate, and I am not trying to persecute. I don't believe anyone should keep you from doing what you want to do.
So moving past those kind of emotions, is discussion possible?
>>621619>Literally the same as the conservative "homosexuality is a choice" rhetoric.Well this is another topic of debate, whether transexuals are just confused homosexuals, but there all the "gay trans." I have some feelings on whether homosexuality is truly nature vs. nurture. But that's also besides the point, because homosexuality doesn't bring up the extended controversy that trans does.
>Homosexual<I have sex with men>Heterosexual<you do have sex with men>Trans<I am the opposite gender from my biological sex>Heterosexual<…They are very different things.
>>621608>what is easier to changeThere are women with small breasts who learn to accept themselves, compare that to one who needs to get a masectomy for medical reason and is devastated, because she is robbed of a part of her personal identity, having receiving unsightly scars in the process. I think there is a qualitative difference between gender dysphoria and most minor body dysmorphias, simply because gender is currently such a fundamental societal concept often tied to our own self-worth (compare incels). Going through puberty makes people notice it all the more.
In addition currrent socially acceptable gender roles can be harmful in many different ways and uncritically accepting them ultimately leads to sex essentialism. Personally i find it hard to conceptualize a healthy place in society while trying to present as a man. Having an actual 2-3'' scar has been easier for me to accept than any of the identity bullshit.
>>621619Right, but gay conversion therapy is a far more revolting prospect than not having the means to change gender, that is before you get to the social ostracization and eugenics.
This whole debate is played out btw, a lot of transhumanists are just hated because they embody harmful female stereotypes (almost as if living as a man in this society actively made you into a misogynist). Also your thread sucks, it's like the straggot equivalent of making a blm "but white lives matter too" thread, like you're too afraid of getting any hostility on an imageboard of all places.
>>621600Don't cuddle lol. But more seriously, seems like you enjoy it so who gives. There's a friend that sometimes stays over. I don't like having sex with him but he's really hot, and every time he stays over I can't help but have sex with him. So now I try to avoid having him stay over.
I'm weak. One time I told him I really didn't want to have sex, but he has a huge dick and had undies/briefs. I saw one of his testicles, the right one to be precise, popping out of his briefs. I guess his bulge was too big for the briefs. I couldn't help myself. I don't particularly care about dick size by the way, it's just hard to not notice, huge and thick cock.
I have many many friends, and many gay friends. None of them are proper leftists. Only one is a theoryless anarchist/socialist, and another is a radlib socialist whom I would rather not even speak about politics or theory since his takes are peak bourgeoise/imperial core trash.
None of the different Marxist Leninist orgs I've been involved with had gay people in them either. How do I get a cute twink Marxist bf? My last bf whom I was with for 8-9 years I obviously made into a Marxist by osmosis but mostly by me ranting about liberals all the time lol, and talking about current events with him.
>>621620Gender and sexuality are socially mediated. The "nature vs nurturer" is anti Marxist nonsense. It is both, necessarily.
>>621622>There are women with small breasts who learn to accept themselves, compare that to one who needs to get a masectomy for medical reason and is devastated, because she is robbed of a part of her personal identity, having receiving unsightly scars in the process. I think there is a qualitative difference between gender dysphoria and most minor body dysmorphias, simply because gender is currently such a fundamental societal concept often tied to our own self-worth (compare incels). Going through puberty makes people notice it all the more.I don't get what you are saying, you seem to realize that women with small breasts, butts, whatever who get implants are negatively impacting their health for reasons of delusion, but…?
>In addition currrent socially acceptable gender roles can be harmful in many different ways and uncritically accepting them ultimately leads to sex essentialism. Personally i find it hard to conceptualize a healthy place in society while trying to present as a man. Having an actual 2-3'' scar has been easier for me to accept than any of the identity bullshit.I dig. Are you saying you are post-op? Look I love all people, and what I say is only to try to develop the best advice and guidance for people, and I respect you have to make do with wherever you are in life. I don't mean to demean anyone through this discussion.
>>621622Right, but gay conversion therapy is a far more revolting prospect than not having the means to change gender,
I don't know what one had to do with the other. I never advocated gay conversion therapy. I think all the American abduction brainwashing camps are disgusting. I was abducted and held in a brainwashing facility myself.
> that is before you get to the social ostracization and eugenics.I don't believe in it.
>This whole debate is played out btw, a lot of transhumanists are just hated because they embody harmful female stereotypes (almost as if living as a man in this society actively made you into a misogynist). I said my point of discussion is not about hatred.
>Also your thread sucks, it's like the straggot equivalent of making a blm "but white lives matter too" thread, like you're too afraid of getting any hostility on an imageboard of all places.I am not OP.
Look I am not trying to make anyone happy, if what you do makes you happy, go be happy, why would you even need to debate what I'm saying?
>>621625> don't get what you are saying>>>what is easier to changeIt's appearence.
>why would you even need to debate what I'm saying?Then are you even saying anything, or did you come here just to stroke your own ego for being such a nice guy?
>>621633>It's appearence.It's not appearance, your biological sex is encoded in every cell of your being and there is nothing you can do to change that.
>Then are you even saying anything, or did you come here just to stroke your own ego for being such a nice guy?Aight I apologize for that statement. That is contradictory to what I started the conversation with. I am not above emotional reaction and illogic either.
>>621622>Also your thread sucks, it's like the straggot equivalent of making a blm "but white lives matter too" threadMf, you were bitching about breedoids invading your thread. I find a solution and you still complain? How about you stop invading our thread too? We have our own thread, you have your own thread, I did what you wanted so go back to your thread plz.
>>621628>I said I'm mixed on whether homosexuality even exists…Wut?
>>621635>entangled with the whole healthcare situationAh, so we don't need to provide glasses, wheelchairs and prosthetic limbs to disabled people? Gotcha.
>>621643The debate whether it can be called nature or nurturte. Pre-natal or post-natal. That said I have seen that certain males exhibit very obvious homosexual signs in their early youth, leading to the conclusion it is nature. But still we need to
materially pinpoint the cause.
>>621645>Don't use words you don't understand.Why don't you educate me and the uninvolved bystanders reading. You realize saying:
>hah you dumb, you don't understand!accomplishes nothing for you.
>>621641>I find a solutionYou're siphoning off activity from the main thread.
>go back to your thread plzWhy, are you a redditor or something?
>we don't needMany amerikkkans are against free healthcare. I'm obviously not. This was referencing that shay screencap.
Dear straight and queer comrades. Suggest a better thumbnail for the thread so it doesn't look as boring. Bonus points for Astolfo or a straight guy discovering he's bi-curious.
>>621647>You're siphoning off activity from the main thread.Well, maybe our queer comrades just don't want to fucking talk to you. You go all "STRAGGOTS GET OUT!!" and "Bisexuals are problematic" but when people are fed up with your bs and make a new thread you're like "Why are you siphoning off the activity from my thread?" Maybe queer people want chill and welcoming conversations instead of listening to your endless rants.
>>621647>Why, are you a redditor or something?No, you're just derailing the thread that you admitted to not be interested in.
>>621649>You go allIt's at least 2 other people and i'm not even that misandrist.
>you admitted to not be interested inConflict drives engagement. At least i'm saging, not as if sage was a downvote or anything.
>>621646I recognize your frustration, however, I can't explain dialectical materialism through mere posts. It took a lot of effort, reading, discussion, and application to understand it.
I'll use some of the thesis on Feuerbach to illustrate what is meant, since it's very consice (it's like 200 words, it's a great read)
>thesis 1>The main defect of all hitherto-existing materialism — that of Feuerbach included — is that the Object [der Gegenstand], actuality, sensuousness, are conceived only in the form of the object [Objekts], or of contemplation [Anschauung], but not as human sensuous activity, practice [Praxis], not subjectively. Hence it happened that the active side, in opposition to materialism, was developed by idealism — but only abstractly, since, of course, idealism does not know real, sensuous activity as such. Feuerbach wants sensuous objects [Objekte], differentiated from thought-objects, but he does not conceive human activity itself as objective [gegenständliche] activity. In The Essence of Christianity [Das Wesen des Christenthums], he therefore regards the theoretical attitude as the only genuinely human attitude, while practice [Praxis] is conceived and defined only in its dirty-Jewish form of appearance [Erscheinungsform][1]. Hence he does not grasp the significance of ‘revolutionary’, of ‘practical-critical’, activity.>thesis 8>All social life is essentially practical. All mysteries which lead theory to mysticism find their rational solution in human practice and in the comprehension of this practice.Before anything, reminder that Marx is only the beginning of Marxism, not the end word. Marxism has developed since then. Even though I'm quoting him, you should not take it as scripture.
Marx in thesis 1 is essentially saying that previous materialisms always thought about the material world as something to be observed. He proposes here that a new materialism has to understand that the act of observing the material world is itself embedded in the material world and therefore a part of objective material reality. In other words, thought is a phenomenon that exists in the material reality.
I can't take you through the whole motions here since I'm on my cellphone, but then you conclude that science and scientific, as well as physics, mathematics, etc, is nothing other than human activities.
In thesis 8 Marx makes the observation that all social life is practical, and by this he means that the realities of political, theoretical, moral, all the "immaterial" parts of our lives, is nothing other than activities humans do, they don't exist immaterially, even though, for example, morals might feel immaterial.
How does this tie to the nature vs nurture debate? I urge you to think about it for yourself for a moment. If we then apply the thesis ideas onto the question, then we come to an impasse. Nature here seems to define the "material conditions" as some people like to throw around. But the understanding of these "material conditions" and the "living through" of these living conditions, is a human social activity, and nothing else. And if we look at the question of the nurturer, what is the nurturer if not the explicit material conditions, the nature of the conditions in question? The nurturer nor the nurtered exists out of nothing, they are a direct product of, and an essential part of material reality. To separate them from nature is, as Marx observes, foolish and leads to mysticism. Nurturing isn't something that exists out of nature. There is nothing that isn't nature.
>>621652>It's at least 2 other peopleWow, now there's
three of them! They're multiplying!
>Conflict drives engagement. Holy Twitter brain.
>>621623idk tbh. I'm in university, but the leftists that i've known and slept with are more radlibs: talking about voting dems, confusing use value with exchange value with price, generally not reading, or organizing etc…
The org im in has older queer people but thats about it tbh, i wouldnt know how you "get a cute twink Marxist bf," since im often on the receiving end of what turns out to be distorters and revisers of Marxism :(
>>621659>Twitter brainActually it's classic channer brain, read
>>>/tech/11398 or
http://wakaba.c3.cx/shii/ >>621615Im autistic things are always awkward. The thing is even if i spend time with people in groups after reading club or whatever it can devolve into an orgy:( The problem arises where i have a small sex drive and have to hide stuff from a brother and sister whom ive both slept with and my two friends that are partners with each other who ive had a few orgies with but not allowed to sleep with one or another individually but end up actually sleeping with one individually and when the it gets alleged that this isnt a leftist reading club but a leftist sex club. Its also particularly difficult when both parties are unable to cum and end up just grinding and edging for an hour straight. Fun, but i have genuine homework to get to. Also I made a promise to myself to not sleep with people who distort and revise marxism, but my friends do that all the time and i still end up sleeping with them :(
I have the position that pants are liberalism; I typically chill with my close friends in booty shorts or skirts and then things devolve :(
>>621664>even if i spend time with people in groups after reading club or whatever it can devolve into an orgy:(Is it possible to learn such power?
>>621665Based.
>>621666No lol I was just guessing.
>>621666OWO where did you find said nudes, so I can avoid going there.
>>621660Ahhh the joy of youth. I'm 33. More honestly though, I just avoid politicized people when it comes to dating. They're usually liberal chauvinist moralists. They suck the joy out of everything and are essentially religiously liberal or """"socialists"""". I'd rather have a bf who just votes because he was told he had to do it and votes almost with his eyes closed.
>>621688
>The truth is, most people don't really sincerely believe what they spout. They just want to feel proxy to something that appeals to their aesthetic impressions.
True. I wonder this about myself as well. On one hand, I do feel this is true for me. But on the other, I do sincerely think and behave on my day to day differently because I think things through with a Marxist lens. Organizing and theory has changed the way I interact with the world on what feels like a profound level. On the other, you wouldn't know I'm a communist by what I look like, the activities I engage in (except organizing). I've tried not being involved in organizing work but I feel a huge sense of unease. I also can't stay away for theory for long. The world is at war, colonialism still exists, slavery is still a thing. How am I expected to stay with my arms crossed! But on the other hand, I understand my reach is very limited and if I ever did anything of note, I would be shot, so I keep it modest, trying to enjoy my time alive.
>>621727You can't control what people do and don't talk about by merely thinking really hard about what should be done. OWS turned the way it did and the SJW nonsense blew up the way it did for the same reason. There's no political organization nor class consciousness in the US. It is a fascist country that pretends not to be. SJW nonsense was the best it could produce given the conditions. Think like a Marxist. OWS didn't fail because people said the wrong words.
Which means the way out isn't to speak the right words either, at least not exclusively so, but as a part of a wider program that is way more than just words.
>>621732>them (hetero males) as usNow this is idpol nonsense, I have to point it out. It is declassing, and removing the systemic reproduction of queerphobia and oppressive systems against queer people.
Fuck off with your liberal bullshit. Read first. No reading -> no speaking.
>>621742No. How did you even get that from what I was saying? Queerphobia IS A PURELY POLITICAL ECONOMIC ISSUE. I can't tell if you're memeing.
>>621744>facts don't care about your feelingsFuck off Shapiro. Fuck off to your libs and Nazi friends.
>>621745>Queerphobia IS A PURELY POLITICAL ECONOMIC ISSUEI mean in the same way it is material. It arises out of the superstructure to reaffirm capitalism
in the last instance. There is an economic impact but a degree of independence relative to the economic base, which is why it also affects some bourgeois queers.
>>621749Is everyone in "da hood" proletarian? When the only practical reason to be a homophobe is to get ahead of queers in competition among petit-bourgeois, what advantage do they exactly get by engaging in homophobia? I've worked both shitty factory and retail jobs and cushy office jobs and the difference in attitude towards queers is staggering.
>>621752>it exists therefore it's le material therefore it's le ""superstructure"" therefore it has to do with communismPhilosophyfag moment.
>it also affects some bourgeois queersYou know communism is a strictly proletarian movement, right?
>>621753>Philosophyfag moment.illiterate leftoid moment
>>it also affects some bourgeois queersThis is an indicator that it's not purely economic. Do you know how an argument works?
>>621753The homophia phenomenon boils down to a mix of mysandry, eugenics and narcissism
It is mysandry because breeder males perceive gay males as traitors for adopting feminine gender roles and sometimes behavior
It is eugenics because they believe gay men are gay men because they're lesser men, therefore in need of humilliations, beatings, general abuses and outright elimination
It is narcissism because straight men think they're the master race and feel entitled enough and feel like gays all are flirting with them or want to get in their pants and they get particularly violent and offended from it because a subhuman like a gay man interacting with them it's revolting enough let alone one flirting, hence why it's extremely dangerous for gay men to hit on other men in public spaces, something heteros do to women ALL THE TIME
Women are incapable of being homophobes because they're not the ones who created nor benefit from such rethoric, they only propagate yhe hateful rethoric of hetero males and even then it's only an exception of them, the absolute majority of women regardless of sexuality are allies, the complete opposite applies to hetero males
>>621752>I mean in the same way it is materialBreh what? Are you
>>621646 ?
What does "meaning it in the way it is material" even mean?
>which is why it also affects some bourgeois queers.I don't understand how this is relevant?
>>621753>Philosophyfag moment.Agree with the other anon on this one, illiterate.
>You know communism is a strictly proletarian movement, right?Objectively false lol. Wait till you see the symbol that represent the "strictly proletarian movement"
☭ lmfao. Stop being a clown for once thanks.
>>621756Well, if you really understand marxist histmat/diamat you can understand how "what is real [or actual] is rational and what is rational is real" makes a lot of sense. Just because things appear irrational, doesn't mean they are irrational. Usually they have an understandable basis from which the ideas or events came to be.
>>621787True lol
>>621790Under a materialist conception of reality, exactly what Marx criticized as the "old materialism" as opposed to what is known as diamat.
>>621799Yawn. Marx and Engels are the beginning of marxism. Get with the times. Notice how you didn't quote the rest of the comment because you didn't understand it.
sit down bitch.
>>621759>Women are incapable of being homophobes Objectively false lol. This is what happens when you don't leave your house. Throwback to the pie in the face.
>>621808Next you'll cry how China killed one million innocent CEOs. Go cheer for america elsewhere.
>>621802>They view them the same way they would view low-value cishet males if they share the physiognomical "flaws" as cishet male losers.You were on your way to not say something retarded, then you pull out this incel idpol theory out of your ass, essentializing women exactly the same way the other moron did.
>>621814I'm OK with people being sensitive. But you can't post stupid shit like crying about muh tankies "actually believing in diamat!!!" and not expect a response in kind.
El que se lleva se aguanta. >>621825All good, no need. Do you understand my objections?
>>621826I ain't twisting nothing honey. You can read it for yourself.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/theses/https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/I'm sorry epistemology and ontology are big words, I literally can't do anything about it. That's why I said "what is known as diamat" since this is more familiar and accessible language. I insist you provide a better alternative.
Go on, reply with a better alternative for the concept. I want to see your "non-college-distorted" term.
>>621833>Me calling it not purely economic was moreso to differentiate it from something arising from the economic baseMost of everything arises from the economic base, including what we understand to be "gay" and homophobia, as well as misogyny, even when these things affect different classes. I understand what you're trying to say, but I insist the framing is not correct. These things are fundamentally tied to class society. What you're implying is to take class society in a small snapshot of the past few years, see the class composition and the roles everyone performs, then base your conclusions based on that. Which is why you determine that homophobia has no class basis because it affects all classes (putting aside how this homophobia is classed, tied to the state, tied to the bourgeoisie, tied to a bunch of other things). But class society has a long long history. You can't simply discard it and look at the present moment. Which is why history is such a fundamental part of understanding society and political economy.
Does that make sense?
>>621826>i love college students twisting communism into an intellectual exercise lol.Thats funny, its usually semi-NEET adults like the typical imageboard patron who does that.
But ok, such condescension is why leftism is hugely unpopular.
>>622157 (me)
You know, maybe my dick wants to tell something to my """straight""" moid brain after all.
>>622179Mine is 13 to 14cm and thin, I'm a dicklet and heavily complexed by it
I don't even send nudes on grindr anymore
>>622200For intramuscular, you want to inject into your bum as much as possible and then your arms to not do scarring.
For your bum, trace a line from the top of your arse crack diagonally down to the edge of the cheek and then inject it just outside that line. Use your left hand to point the space out that you're going to inject and then press it in firmly, don't do it too slowly or it will hurt more. It's a lot easier on the right side if you're right handed.
For the arms, both of them are easy. You want to be injecting into the top muscle group. It is the one coming off of the shoulder and is the biggest muscle in the upper arm.
Don't worry about hitting blood vessels because either its a capillary and it doesn't matter or if you get it really really wrong it is a vein and you will just cough up the oil but it will be fine. What you need to worry about is more injecting within the bum V which will probably hit blood vessels and hurt really badly (I know because I did it), scar easily and there is like a nerv or something there. But it's not difficult to just to the V thing. The best thing for making it hurt the least is just injecting it firmly and quickly. Oh and always use a fresh needle.
You can do subcutaneous on like your belly or something but idk sounds annoying and expensive.
>>622194Literally average sized. Living in Brazil fucked your perception of anything real. Still though, why are you even on grindr if you don't have libido? Don't even pretend you're not br anon.
BTW I will go to BH, Brasil soon. Looking forward.
>>622189As I mentioned, your issues are others, but you focus on the least meaningful of them all. Almost as if to avoid dealing with your other issues.
>>622207I barely do it anymore and if I do just trying to get a dick to suck these days
I'm speaking of a few years ago when I was still on tadalafil
What are you doing here anyway? I live Sao Paulo state, BH is in another state
>>622209Going for carnaval.
Did you do any exercise today? You can start by doing "exercise snacks" during the day. It's like 5 squats or 10 jumping jacks. You do them several times a day every day and it will change your life, I swear on delicious queijo de pao and freshly baked paõ de queijo.
>>622218Are you fat and don't do resistance training yourself? If so, that's your issue. You can relatively easily lose tons of weight to a healthier weight if you actually want it.
>>622216Good job. This is a long game. The idea isn't to get fit, but to change your habits. You have to do some exercise every day and I swear you'll be changed sooner than you realize. Try doing the exercise snacks during the day. You can start with one and ramp it up to two a day after a week, and so on.
>>622221Get meaningful dates that don't give a shit about your dick. Most dicks are ugly. I've been blocked many times after sending dick. So I don't. I also don't use grindr because you find vapid superficial people. I use tinder, I go to bars and talk to people, I make many friends and I meet their friends. Etc.
Besides, in a similar vein, your libido is low, you have ED, but somehow your sex life is the most important? All the other parts of your life that are more meaningful need way more attention, but somehow what doesn't let you sleep in peace is your dick size? Gives you something to think about, no?
>>622222You are right I'm just complaining from past experience
Recently I've been barely using grindr, and tbh just looking for a guy I used to be friends and have a crush on but lost contact after swapping old phone for a new one
I never even used Tinder because I always felt it was even more superficial than Grindr because you don't even get to talk to the person unless you match, and matches are all about looks and I'm qlso terribly insecure about it, the fact I can't take pics for shit is also something
But you are righr I'm way too fucked up to think about sex and relations atm
>>622222Quintuplets of truth lmfao
Also I think my cock is unironically pretty, I just feel it's way too small and thin :/
>>622258that happened to me once but i was shitting and blood came out. looked like i had a period
anyways maybe its hemorrhoids
>>622273>>622258You would know if you had a hemorrhoid lol. It's not a MAYBE I have hemorrhoids, your hemorrhoids will let you know.
Do you guys drink too much? I sometimes shit blood when I drink too much.
>>622268I wish I were neither gender, would rather be a robot tbh.
>>622279what if anon meant that they are 200% transwoman?
>>622613I meant "realize" wtf im feeling all frantic rn
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>>622602>will it be bad if I take only estrogen?Androgens are hard to suppress with estrogen alone and even if you do testosterone fullfills some bodily health functions that would need to be replaced by progesterone anyways. If you take progesterone or progestin with a relatively small amount of estrogen, T falls dramatically. Refer to
https://transfemscience.org/articles/cpa-dosage/ for more information.
>>621403Idpol with communist characteristics.
>>621750Yeah bro the straggots drive-by posting with their issues sure were halcyon days! At least the last thread had something going on.
>>622132>>622144>>622163Used to be a 12 cm let, but magically gained 4 cm somehow (well after puberty). You'll never be hung, but there is still hope.
>>622850I think I have no issue with language as long it's english. I can speak english just fine.
except their gaelic tho.
>Finance bourgeoisie gentrifying a lot of space in the city has driven up rents and buying property as a foreigner has always been more expensive even in the middle of nowhere.Well, I expected the rent would be high & I don't think I've ever hope to buy property in this economy, seems like fever dream.
maybe my issue would be I want to know which region/city that's very queer friendly because I know just because gay marriages are legal doesn't mean the violent homophobes would disappear.
and also public transportation I guess.
Because I planned to settle in smaller cities or suburbs to avoid ultra expensive living expenses in urbanites/capital city. for ex, if I get job in big city I can just transit.
>>622852I will consider it but I kinda feel guilty if I just dating them for visas, maybe because I also wanted meaningful & loving relationships on long term.
but also how do I get anglo/yuros GF? because I dont work at tourism sector….
I feel that anglos/yuros dyke aren't that much of prudes unlike dykes in my country.
most dykes here (even the most liberal one) has opinion like that ' Religious Mom tilted seeing women wearing bikini' type, just frustrating in general, total sexless. the rare horny one doesn't give a shit about relationship & just want their fuckmeat.
as horny dykes who want loving relationship it's miserable desu.
>just meet online broyeah I know but I don't know *which* one specifically, like which platform where I can meet LDR gf.
I'm traumatized exchanging discord from reddit and 4chan /lgbt/.
because I get the most normiest & tumblrinas dyke that spouting puritan shit about my weeb hobbies.
and I get mentally ill bpdemon that out of nowhere traumadumping me & rambling schizo /pol/ shit.
well, I was retarded but lesson learned I guess
>>622904>maybe my issue would be I want to know which region/city that's very queer friendlyProbably any substantially large city in "the west". Universities should generally be fine as well, because their social climate is usually different from any nearby towns, the proverbial "university bubble".
As a germ i can tell you there are many small, good-quality universities in the east that don't get enough local applicants and are desperately looking for foreign students. Since the end of the GDR the region has gone through a demographic crisis, so rents are also pretty cheap.
>>622542>it would probably be people ITTNot reading into this. Anyways, better to ask in /isg/ for these matters.
>>622638A leftist reddit clone (federated, if you know what that means, like mastodon).
>>622924Berlin is very queer friendly generally. Cologne too. Both pretty international. You can also try Leipzig but it's not as international/queer. Any city smaller than one million people or in Bavaria is probably going to suck, but if you're desperate then why not.
>>622904You can also apply for scholarships. Honestly, language learning won't get you far. Before 2005, yeah, knowing certain languages was a considerable edge. Especially coming from the third world. But now, not so much. Actual office skills come above all, whatever they might be. Only a few give stable and good pay opportunities. Only a few non-office jobs give OK salaries.
>>623084Two girls making out doesn't challenge them, because they will always self-insert as the observer that is being titillated by the "performance". Also while it is common knowledge that yuri does not strictly target males, it is often very palatable to them, in that romance is framed as the expression of strong feelings of friendship. There is the outdated class s cliche of "growing out of it", but especially the very popular kind of cgdct media leaves this issue ambiguous. The same man who says "yuri is the purest form of love" might walk up to two women and feel offended when he is rejected.
You might say for a man to resent lesbians, he needs to feel symbolically castrated by them.
>>622904>I will consider it but I kinda feel guilty if I just dating them for visas, maybe because I also wanted meaningful & loving relationships on long term.Gonna have to swing either way, so worth a shot. There is also little sense in secluding yourself until the knight on a bridal horse happens upon you. You can full around until then, and why *not* improve your situation a little bit while you are at it?
Can't speak for lesbians, but again second hand information tells me a loooot of them are horny fuckers so chances on meeting a lechy euro are good.
As for meeting people: going to bars, festivals, beaches, and any other sort of gathering worked for me (in some cases too well!) Gotta swing tho. Nothing can happen until you swing the bat.
>>622914Burner mails are fine. Been doing that for longer than most of the posters itt have been alive, and never ran into any issues. Fuck, met some of my longest and best friends that way.
Imageboards are so fucky. They are filled with just woeful scum, but among them are the kindest, most reliable people you will ever meet.
>>623105>yuri does not strictly target malesThat we even need a specifier "yuri by and for lesbians" tells you enough about the commercial/dominant demographic there. Same with yaoi, albeit inverted. Only bara is spared which is a funny one because the majority of authors and artists are women producing for a majority gay men audience (and I love each and every one of them!!)
(Dsharp, bad example)
>>622914I'm using different alt& didn't even reveal any information. ended up got blocked tho lol
>>622924>>622975>getting into uni scholarshipI don't think I will get into uni ever again, I already had enough with uni shenanigan & not wanting to do thesis ever again lol.
it took me 6 years to get my degree & my job experiences mostly involve doing spreadsheet, nothing notable so far. I do have side jobs as design graphics & illustrator, but not sure if it's can be relevant.
the only best chances rn available to me is to be migrant labor & it was supported by government too.
the downside is most likely I will be working low-paying job. but that's no issue for me as long it's not physically demanding, alread used being overworked to death as corpo wageslave.
Still need a lot research & especially I heard applying into anglos/yuros migrant worker were pretty hard. I tried switching career as digital marketer, at least it pays better than my previous job.
wish I am smart enough to enter STEM field especially tech because it has better career opportunities. sad, I got filtered so hard by math.
>>623171Yaoi/BL doesn’t suffer from as much market segregation as Yuri does because fujoshi aren’t very picky with their yaoi content. They have no issue with gritty, muscular men in yaoi. Even Gengoroh Tagame has said that plenty of geicomi or bara mangaka are women.
You can even see the evolution of BL genres from the 1970s, 2000s, and 2010s. Fujoshi have diversified their tastes, and most modern BL today is quite different from older 2000s yaoi.
A lot of gay men in Japan also read BL, and nobody really cares anymore whether BL is for women or men because it’s essentially the same. While most BL is still marketed toward women, since publishers still don’t prioritize gay men, many gay men still read a lot of this BL marketed for women because it aligns with their tastes.
Meanwhile, in Yuri, the tastes of female and male Yuri fans are very different. Most male Yuri fans tend to prefer moe CGDCT yuri bait, while female Yuri fans tend to lean toward shoujo and jousei vibe wise.
Personally, I like Yaoi made by women because they tend to draw cute boys/bishie & often focused on story.
>>623281 (me)
want to add that gay men have very varied tastes and generally aren’t very picky about who makes their gay porn.
This is probably one of the reasons why BL/Yaoi doesn’t have significant market segregation like Yuri does, I guess.
yaoi honestly are more diverse than people gives credit for.
>>623285>Men are appreciated as subjects of beauty and profundity.yup, this is why I loves yaoi. they tend focus on men beauty (important) & I can relate to a lot of guys in yaoi more lol
>>623171>There is also little sense in secluding yourself until the knight on a bridal horse happens upon you. You can full around until then, and why *not* improve your situation a little bit while you are at it?That's good mindset & I think I will give it a shot lol.
I will try meeting people & hopefully I can get rich gf or anglos/yuro gf
>>623181good luck anon! I'm sure you can make it.
Math can be total cancer
>>623428If you're br anon, then do your daily exercise of at least 2 squats. If you're anyone else, sit down somewhere, close your eyes, breathe in a relaxed, deep, and slow manner, and count your breaths until you reach 10.
Another activity, message someone you've been meaning to message for a while.
>>623281>>623285>>623287>Men are appreciated as subjects of beauty and profundity.I appreciate both your enthusiasm, but I could not disagree more. The fujoshi appreciation of men is objectification; it is enshrining/worship of an idealized form of what men (or rather boys) ought to be. It is the cult of the bishi. (I am making no statement on whether this is good or bad, merely *what* it is, and a general one at that.)
||Newgene not beating the closeted homophobe allegations on this one.||
>>623315Whatever you decide, I hope for and wish you the best!
>>622975>Not reading into this. Hexbear is probably ~ 60% LGBT
>Anyways, better to ask in /isg/ for these matters. They're back up. They fucked up and lost their domain name.
>>623281>>623285>>623287Team Yaoi appreciates men
>>623563Team Yaoi objectifies men
I barely read/watch yaoi stuff, (or romance stuff), but if I had to say it's probably the latter.
It's capitalism, so it's gonna turn any art into a comidity, and for maximizing the attractiveness of the product it'll objectify characters.
Like of the stuff I've read:
"Go For It, Nakamura!",
Has a random fantasy of a high school boy being violated by a octopus, (in universe it's created by the boy who's attracted to him, but the author admitted in the manga's qna that it was more for her enjoyment since she didn't know how long the manga go).
Extends to the weirdest things like hands and personality.
>>623587>60% lgbtDamn I low key want to migrate there just to get away from breeder moids here, but then I remember our presence here pisses them off so I'd stay just in spite
What is hexbear anyway? A reddit? Another imgboard?
>>623644>but then I remember our presence here pisses them off so I'd stay just in spiteIs that a fantasy of yours or something?
Anyway, nobody genuinely cares, you can have this thread to yourself. Why would people care about a thread that has basically become your personal blog? I'm more concerned whether other queer people want to be in one thread with you. Because you always act like you represent the majority of queer people in this thread. Maybe queer anons can reply to this post, maybe we can make a poll.
>>623657does represent the majority of terminally online queer people, so i guess fair's fair
t. a queers
This interview with John
BelAmi Bellamy Foster speaks a bit about what I mean regarding queer theory as it exists now, and recuperating by making it properly Marxist. He speaks directly about queer theory but also more generally about eg Deleuze.
I've been saying this a lot but I've had a hard time verbalizing it. I was playing around with AI to see if it could help rewrite some of these concepts by sprinkling in historical context and historical analysis, plus heavy dialectical materialism. It worked out kind of OK, a think it can be a promising tool for people like me who struggle to write and don't read enough like the titans of theory of all currents.
We're heavily missing properly Marxist queer theory, that has at it's center the primary contradiction, and mediates the topic through class and capital. If there is such a thing, I haven't seen it. We need a gay Losurdo lmao.
https://youtu.be/E6H7RfzgyMA>>623716It recognizes the importance of these "compatible left" intellectuals, and "compatible Marxists" when it comes to queer issues in the west, but also exposes their limitations as not really revolutionary and falling flat.
The talk also mentions István Mészáros who is a theoretician that is not well known on leftypol (except for that one anon who was really into him a while back), who's also important for a variety of reasons.
They also discuss Nietzscheanism in western leftistm which is relevant because queer political spaces in the west are highly immersed in this mode of thinking.
It more widely connects with other things I'm interested in, such as the anti-anti-imperialist left (the so called anti-campists on leftypol for example), and also readings of Hegel through nazi authors eg Heidegger vs left readings of Hegel.
>>618934I actually managed to jerk off and.cum twice yesterday
I do suffer from.massive ED so.my dick was like only half erect in both cases but still
>>623563>it is enshrining/worship of an idealized form of what men (or rather boys) ought to beand…what's wrong with that? Especially when the
idealized form of men is pretty much opposite of what patriarchal society want.
I’d honestly take yaoi’s perception of men any day over the idealized version of men portrayed by most media created by cishet men.
don't give a shit if it's objectification or whatever it is because it's such non-issue
>It is the cult of the bishiBased & we need more bishie in the world
>Newgene not beating the closeted homophobe allegations on this one.Please explain to me in what part that's count as homophobic? how the fuck liking pretty men in yaoi is homophobic?
People who criticize yaoi always forget that feminine gay men exist, and yaoi is one of the few genres where these type of men are celebrated and appreciated instead of being treated as a joke or reviled.
>but muh fetishizingyeah, surely gay men also not fetishizing other men & only evil fujos objectified gay men, right?
Fujoshi fetishizing fictional anime gay porn will never be as bad as Straight Men fetishizing lesbian. Go see how those lesbian porn being produced & what lesbian having to go through when dealing with straight men.
Fujo doesn't do rape-correction or sexually exploit IRL gay men, make them better in my book.
>>623662>why is male beauty always assumed to be purely fantasy while female beauty is always assumed to be real?This.
It’s genuinely annoying that whenever people argue against yaoi, they always emphasize how it’s fetishizing because it focuses on feminine men, always never fail.
I will forever defend yaoi and fujos, they’re my saviors. Without yaoi, I’d probably hate myself 100 times more and repress my sexuality. I’m always grateful for my fujo friends because I feel safe expressing myself with them & they're always supportive too.
I wish all men in the world is like my yaoi manga tbh
>>623991Happy for anyone who manages to make it work.
I think it would be great if my bf and I met the perfect person or persons who would be compatible with us, but it just feels difficult and unlikely, getting exponentially more unstable the more people you add and even if we lucked out, while I'd be fine with my friends knowing about me being in a poly relationship, I would be stressed and worried about how my family would treat it and I wouldn't want to live being ashemed or 'in the closet' about it. That and you get no state/institutional recognition which just makes all sorts of things a bigger pain.
Hopefully with time and communism fully free love will become easier.
>>623991I kind of "fell" into a poly relationship. We/I never set out to do so, my bf ended up having a bf. I also got a short bf fling at some point. I've seen people "come out" as poly, and it makes me facepalm so hard. I don't "identify" as poly at all, and for me such an identity makes no sense. My relationship was very stable, lasted almost 9 years and we split on good terms, we still chat every one or two weeks, it's been 2 years since we broke up.
I think all relationships are very different, but they're all simultaneously shoehorned into archetypes, and expectations, which makes it kind of hard to even think about them properly and even more so to communicate properly.
So my opinion is that poly relationships are context dependant. It's not something that can simply work by willing it into existence. And as the other anon said, adding more people is just adding more instability. Relationships are really hard in general.
>>623999I'm looking into somehow becoming the "third wheel" of a relationship. I don't have the availability to have a proper bf right now. I just don't have the time or energy to attend it properly. I would rather be part of a stable relationship and me be the subject of their relationship. That way I avoid a bit of drama of a three way "equals" thing where there's easily a perception of power unbalances, since in the ideal scenario I'm imagining, I would clearly be in the position of less power, less commitment, less engagement etc.
Let's go on a date 😘😏
>>623991Isn't that just a fancy name for a open/non-committal relation? Basically just having a fling?
Idk but if I get into a relation I wouldn't want my boyfriend fucking around with others
But then again, many people just call flings you barely know anything nor are very close relationship so…
>>624354A poly relationship is supposed to be an equal partnership where everyone knows each other, lives together, and fucks each other. An open relationship is just you fucking other people and your partner is not involved and often doesn't know who you're fucking.
Granted the term polyamory is used incorrectly a lot of the time to make an open relationship seem more like a legitimate identity rather than just sleeping around.
>>624390Memes aside this hot dog looks terrible
Literal dry bread and a sausage and nothing else
>>624404We need to have HRT pre puberty to prevent Hons
Honification is the sole factor of depression and suicide among trans
>>624431I mean it's consenting adults so no need to sperg out about ut
I would not accept a bf of mine fucking others tho
>>624436>it's consenting adultsPlenty of things done by adults with consent from all participants should not be allowed in society, like religious rituals for example
>>624437>stems from the same treeMy morality stems from the proletariat, the clergy from the bourgeoisie, I don't see how these things are comparable lol
>>624441> PlentyWhat else?
(Also barely even accept religous rituals as an acceptable example).
>>623662Latter was a joke about randos accusing you of everything and the kitchen sink a while ago. A stereotype of bi men is that they are closeted homophobes who are only "bi" because they cling to heterosexuality for security. One and one, etc.
>Why do pet like to differentiate boys from men but never girls from women?Come again?
>>623978>what's wrong with thatI very, very clearly state:
<I am making no statement on whether this is good or bad, merely *what* it is, and a general one at that.
>men portrayed by most media created by cishet men>people who criticize yaoi always forget that feminine gay men exist>as bad as Straight Men fetishizing lesbianImmaterial: not in contention.
>Fujo doesn't do rape-correction or sexually exploit IRL gay menYou might want to look into that.
>why is male beauty always assumed to be purely fantasy while female beauty is always assumed to be real?>gay men also not fetishizing other men & only evil fujos objectified gay men, right? I made no such statement. I also made no ill statement towards fujoshi, and the opposite should be evident from my previous posts.
Bishoujo/moe is also absolutely subjected to the same critique and far more so. Silly comment.
Responses like these are very frustrating. I appreciate that this is a sensitive topic for you, but I am not out to get you.
>>623991Casual poly seems fun. Serious poly seems like a headache.
>>624431>another pick-me retard desperate for attention posting baitsnooore
go get laid, loser
>>624447If monogamy "doesn't work" for someone then they simply shouldn't be in a relationship
>>624460>barely even accept religous rituals as an acceptable examplewhy not?
>>624481>Religious rituals such as circumcision has a non-consenting infant involved all the times thoObviously not referring to anything involving infants, more like adult circumcision and baptism, the eucharist, mass, etc.
>>624430I mean it's semantics but you can define "equal" in this context to mean "everyone is fully informed about the nature of the relationship, everyone is in a relationship with each other, and no one has strict authority over the other". Compared to polygamy which is patriarchal, one husband controlling many wives, and the wives don't have a romantic relationship with each other.
That doesn't mean they have to equally love each other or whatever.
>>624513Religion is loose and could just be as harmless as X anime character of the week, and "rituals" is just a routine.
Also I want other examples.
>>623991I feel like poly is over-formalized. And open relationships are just pre-okayed cheating more or less.
I think the ideal of relationships is to have love for others freely, while committing in an absolute way to the people you care about most. Where poly people tend to manage and define discreet aspects of relationships and their boundaries and allowances, I think absolute commitment with an explicitly communicated ranking is superior. E.g. you give person 1 100% of yourself. Unless you're in a cancerous enmeshed relationship, they can't use all that. Say they take 70%. Then person 2 has 30%, and so on. And what they need will be in organic flux, but you will never have to think hard about how to deal with any conflicts. You obey the hierarchy. This should make all people feel secure, since they know exactly where they stand with you and how much they can expect. Just without formalizing the specific things they can ask of you/do with you.
When it comes to sensuality and sex, isn't it normal for friends to make each other feel comfortable or pleasured with platonic touch? I don't see how this differs from sexual touch in any fundamental way, though, besides context or intent. If it's about the underlying feelings, then penetration can be platonic, while a touch on the back can be sexual. I think it makes sense to not attempt to formalize the types of allowed touch or emotions like is common in poly relationships, and instead lean on your ability to meet each other's emotional needs to the extent that is reasonably assumed by where you place each other in your lives, and have that as the basis for a sense of security and combat jealousy. The formalizing leaves things open for subversion. In fact, there's a ton of enjoyment in subtly subverting boundaries (if you're a narcissistic asshole or dopamine addict) and using intentions or emotions (invisible to a third party) to change the nature of touch. This really is a breeding ground for unregulated competition. It's all about if things are in good faith or not, but poly can be a magnet for cluster B personalities who get off on being wanted or on getting one over on someone else, or it can be a harmonious collective. Please rate my love manifesto I guess, gays
>>624673>>624673On the contrary, gaygrationist says hetero men hates us so the establishment of lgbt no go zones is the only solution
>what's stopping you?Fucking material conditions
>>624676I always get along with gays. Gay men have given me more compliments than straight women damn near. We just frustrate each other because I am like, "if only you didn't have a cock and balls," and they are like "if only you were into that."
Me and lesbian women bond over our hatred of het women. Real conversation
Me:
>straight women don't understand painLesb:
<no they don't, that's why they hurt me >>624679>Gay men have given me more compliments than straight women damn near.Due to extreme low self esteem caused by societal trauma (by hetero men in particular) many gays hit and even interact with whatever trash that hates them and think of them as lesser human beings
Your case of lesbian women doing mysoginistic discourse is really sad. Women in general are friends and straight women even have many similar strugglesb
>>624682>I know at least two gay guys who were trying to groom meHealthy gay men wouldn't even interact with hetero men besides their relatives let alone """groom""" on them (and by grooming I understand hetero males truly mean mild flirting, something they do to women all the time in a much worse scale)
Also they didn't turn gay for bad experiences with women, they were always such and just suffering from denial and self hatred, many like that, my solidarity for these poor souls, I unironicallh hope they find peace and stop interacting with people that hate them
>>624685>>Your case of lesbian women doing mysoginistic discourse is really sad. Women in general are friends and straight women even have many similar strugglesbNah, they have to date women too. They know what's up. Lesbian women have a level of pathos straight women can't understand.
>>624686>Healthy gay men wouldn't even interact with hetero men besides their relatives let alone """groom""" on them (and by grooming I understand hetero males truly mean mild flirting, something they do to women all the time in a much worse scale)No I mean give me long arguments about how I need to go gay with them. I was lonely at the time and they are like chickenhawks.
>Also they didn't turn gay for bad experiences with women, they were always such and just suffering from denial and self hatred, many like that, my solidarity for these poor souls, I unironicallh hope they find peace and stop interacting with people that hate themYeah I don't buy it either. I knew this one guy in HS when he was dating the woman, I didn't even know he was straight. Always assumed he was gate.
>>624786Never had one, and the idea doesn't turn me on
I'd make a sacrifice if my partner wished it very much but atm I'm single
>>624514I actively want to become the third of a relationship in a subordinate position, meaning that they are the "main" relationship, and I'm more of an attachment to that.
>>624786My ex and I were both tops. It worked out well idk. A bit of jealousy on his part sometimes, but generally OK and very hot. I cherish the memories of that beautiful twunk we fucked.
>>624796I'm sides and almost no gay is
I'll never find someone
>>624796I'm br anon btw
Mind if I ask where are you from mate?
>>624816It doesn't sound cute, it sounds pretty toxic to me really, if I was to be in a relationship I'd want to be on equal grounds
Your bf might need theraphy
But then I might just me kinkshaming so forgive me if I offended
>>624824I'd still consider therapy
Honestly I'd never get this kink especially from a sub PoV, like you're asking to be abused and stripped of your free will partially
In bed in can be hot sometimes, I won't lie I fetichized of being forcefully facefucked by a buffed ripped hairy stud once in a while but applying this to everyday relations is something I fail to comprehend
>>624801I'm side/top/top-verse. I don't mind anal, but it's too much work and a bit overrated. I've had BJs that have made me see God.
he was jerking off watching usI'm starting to date a Brazilian guy. He's a bottom. We've had sex two times and neither of them involved any anal. I really don't mind, and it was him that didn't want to bottom. I also have a friend I sometimes have sex with. The first time we had sex he made a bunch of excuses of why he didn't want to have anal and he promised me he would bottom next time. I felt the need to stop and ask him to not make such promises and that it was completely fine. A bit uncomfortable, some bottoms feel they owe the top anal.
Anyways, I can go on about this. I was in a relationship with a top for 9 years. We didn't have that much anal, sometimes I bottomed, sometimes he did, but mostly it was us doing other things like bjs, frotting, 69, etc.
>>624805I'd rather be vague about it. I speak Spanish and I'm from LATAM.
>>624806Report back. Communication is extremely important. You should set boundaries and talk through things before you engage in something like this. Don't break the rules mid sex. Afterwards, talk with your bf and thoroughly talk about how you both felt and work through any problems.
>>624816For me, making decisions is absolutely exhausting. I would rather not if I can avoid it. It's a point of contention in my previous relationship where I felt that the burden of choosing and planning fell on me more often than not.
>>624833>the general site here is extremely homophobicIt's really not. It's a loud minority (like 2 or 3 unbannable morons, who ban evade like crazy). Most of the site is queer or queer adjacent in some way or another or pro-lgbt. Don't be fooled by the loud 2-3 anons, that's exactly what they want. It's a fed tactic called forum sliding.
>>624833here's documentation for vichan (the stuff leftypol runs on):
https://vichan.info/index.php?title=Main_Pagehere's a few places to get a vps from:
https://www.techradar.com/news/best-vps-hostingyou can get a domain from porkbun or cloudflare in a pinch
build the ethnoboard you want to see. it takes less than a day to get it up and running
>>624848You should get the fuck out of this thread like the rest of the straggots
>>624849He asked for a board or forum, not how to create one, I know you're trying to be a passive aggressive piece of shit but still, I can ask you the same, why are you homophobic straggots infesting our thread in the first place? Especially when you already have your containment thread where you can hate speech on gays and women all you want
>>624845Who is this woman and why are you posting her?
>>624838>It's really not. You have to be delusional af to not think otherwise, the mods might be chill and even mostly queer but the majority of users are literally all straggot male former polyps who hate women and gays
>>626417Unironically correct. Incels have insane gender dysphoria. They feel that they aren't living up to the gender they were assigned to/identify with, hence they're "failing" at being "real" men.
Gender dysphoria is at the heart of the incel ideology. But unlike other gender nonconformity, incel's issue is that they are not being "granted" (either due to social, genetic, or whatever other reason) their legitimate place as a "real" man (a thing that doesn't even exist) and that this is something they are owed. Another thing which is different from other gender nonconformity, is that incels are only gender nonconforming in the imaginary, in all the ways they are essentially fulfilling the male gender role perfectly, but their psyche tells them that they are massively failing at this and it gives them tremendous anxiety.
It's no surprise that incels are liberals (at best) because they internalize these gender roles and the classed oppression they imply, and view it as a goal to achieve for themselves to perpetuate the reactionary male ideal, which also implies a world where these reactionary gender roles are perpetuated.
No exceptions. All incels hold deeply reactionary beliefs, and usually it's a core belief that's seemingly impossible to eradicate. There is not a single incel on this site that isn't a fucking moron, a reactionary liberal, and a misogynist. There's not a single Marxist on this board who is actually educated in Marxism and actually does praxis. Zero.
>>626429Moderation load would probably be very high on the volunteer administration until there's a critical mass of incels that the other gender nonconforming folks have managed to knock some sense into.
Might work.
>>632124i wonder if the pussy ass mods will remove this image for being shota, it has all the same artistic characteristics compared to other posts that were removed, but if they remove this it might actually be a consistant enforcement of the rules, which no mod on leftypol.org would
ever consider.
>>632247How is that shota uygha?
Skinny twink is obviously tall enough to be over age
>>632247Why do you guys hate shots so much?
You guys claim it's "encouraging pedophilia" yet you watch live action murder videos and you don't call it premeditated murder.
And if I recall, you guys love to preach about morality being "spooks".
Yet, you get upset over some harmless anime drawings?
>>634835actually it would likely attract a lot of halfchan posts at first, but we would be shaping the board in our own image. it's the joy of
property motherhood!
Flood detected; Post discarded. >>634606This place is already not active enough for all these boards.
Please not another.
Fuck it, lets just colonize /hobby/ or whatever.
>>636109What's the reason? Are you lesbian yourself?
I'm gay and I lowkey hate men in general, especially heteros and hetero passing bis
>>636533Tbh, I think marriage is abused as a redemption arc.
People keep using marriage to run away from the aftermath of their vices.
>>636559its called growing up, sweetie
i know homos dont understand that concept
>>636559Yeah but I think what makes gay dudes resent bi men is that they can basically wear queerness like a costume and then take it off to blend in with the stroids once they've had their fun. A bi guy and get his fill of cock and still settle down and avoid being disowned by their conservative family or whatever.
>>636567Plenty of straight people are promiscuous as well. Gays just feel less pressure to settle down for its own sake or just because people expect them to.
>>636533I don't hate regular bi guys
I hate hetero passing bi guys who use and abuse gay guys who sadly most have a thing for masculine men, and then abandon them to settle with a woman
But wait there's more. These bi guys will many times cheat on the women to top some femboys
They're peak toxic masculinity
>>636574The planet is OVERPOPULATED there's no such thing as """biological clock to breed""" either
And your first claim is absurd
I doubt you're even queer yourself most likely an incel hetero male, fuck off from our thread
>>636577>theres no biological clockin guessing theres no menopause
or no twink death either lole
>>636578These are correlated not direct to the action of breed
And the way you wrote seemed like heteros have an inane psychological urge to breed which is far form the case,
>>636580>>636576Can we stop with the projective heteroandrophobia?
This is what I mean about gay guys hating on bi guys despite the claim of differentiation.
>>636567Not a homo.
Also, you're rationalizing marriage as a redemption arc for maturity is exactly what I'm talking about.
Growing up is when you don't give a fuck about maturity as a vanity license
>>636574As a hetero male, I can say that procreation is socially abused for vanity.
The earth has increased a billion humans per decade.
We are seeing more developmental disorders, more delayed adulthood, more sociopolitical drama, and you wanna talk about "maintaining the species"?
Why has LeftyPol fallen for pro-natalism?
>>636677Why do you guys assume everything is misogyny?
Society is far more sympathetic towards female homosexuality than male homosexuality
>>636682>>636682>Society is far more sympathetic towards female homosexuality than male homosexualityAnd misogyny is the reason of that
Gay men are hated, abused and outright murdered because they're seen as trying to emulate the """lesser gender""", so they're perceived as """failed men""" who need to be killed by hetero males
Lesbians are fetichized/objectified sexually, and seen as ""confused"" because apparently the notion of a woman not being attracted to men is non-existant to hetero males
>>636682it's pretty much how
>>636690 says it. misogyny against lesbians reveals itself at the precise moment they make themselves unavailable to men
that is symbolically castrate them.
>>636690No. It's not misogyny. It's just homoandroohobia.
Misogyny would be if female homos were humiliated and mutilated like their male counterparts.
But ok then. By your logic, disadain for butch girls is misandry
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