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also it was trying to square Jesus' teaching with polytheism , so it operates in an astrological framework. basically you have to go through archons, gatekeepers to gain spiritual liberation.
something not dissimilar is found in Roman mithraism, with the various grades of initiation having planetary correspondances
Is gnosticism true? Well in as much as spiritual liberation might involve overcoming the physical world through meditation or other techniques.
>>652884>if you really read into it you'd know "gnosticism" is just a scholarly label applied to a wide range of traditions that never even called themselves that
>A contemporary of Basilides, Carpocrates, gave rise to a sect explicitly called by the name "Gnostic " - if we are to believe Irenaeus. (P. 23, Doresse, The Secret Books of the Egyptian Gnostics)
>Epiphanius, who gives yet further details of the principal myths of these "Gnostics", enumerates for example the names of the beings who dwell in the heavens of our universe: in the eighth heaven, Barbelo^ and the Christ; in the seventh Ialdabao^th; or, in the opinion of other sectaries of the same group, Sabao^th; in the sixth Elilaios, Daden, Setheus, Sacla (who is addicted to impure delights) and finally Iao^. Among these, Sabao^th is distinguished by having a pig's or an ass's head; it is he who is supposed to have created heaven and the earth. (Doresse, p.43) >>653061>look mom i used the mistranslations!no serious scholar believes in gnosticism:
https://cdn.prod.website-files.com/621d410c183d6e4f263cbb48/62a8f0d26f2cdda0aa9d2064_Christianity-Seminar-Fall-2014-Report.pdf and there are countless other sources concurring the same thing
>>653080>waaaah! nasty translations !Well, what translations, and where are they wrong?
It may have escaped your notice but /siberia/ isn't a peer-reviewed academic journal.
So anons aren't in a position to know whether you know what you're talking about ,or whether you've just google searched for something that seems to support what you're saying.
>>653082>IT'S A LABEL CREATED IN THE 19TH CENTURY You could argue that Iranaeus or Epiphanius were incorrect (if you have more than the summary of a Christian seminar on gnosticism), but they weren't figments of the 19th century imagination.
>>653105If I ever get a gf there is no way in hell she will be like me, having no history. I've been on one date in my life and that was 8 years ago when I was 30. If I do somehow get
a much better paying job and a gf I have to do my best to not hold that against her, she will have had a long history with many partners, it's not her fault that I don't.
>>653136>You don't need money to get a gf.>>653136>and give dating apps a shot just to gain experience.Experience of what? I've tried them a couple times over the years and it's been like pretty much a purely negative experience. Only got like 2 dates period and one turned me down for a second date and the other ghosted me. And chicks have even asked me if I was a model on them. I must not be that good looking when I see what other guys experience's are, but I don't think I'm ugly. I've sent tons of messages with no response at all. A lot of stupid short boring conversations that went no where. Some long ass text conversations over the span of like a week that went nowhere.
It's just fucking exhausting. It's really identical to applying for jobs online. I only apply for jobs because it's either that or starve. I can do without pussy.
>>653140>I must not be that good looking when I see what other guys experience's areWho? Your friends? People online lie. I'm not gonna blow smoke up your ass that they're amazing and fun, but if you're a shutin it's the best way to get experience going on dates.
>Some long ass text conversations over the span of like a week that went nowhereSounds like you got them pretty invested but didn't make a move. Your goal on dating apps should be to move your interactions off them as quickly as possible.
>I can do without pussyObviously not if you're whingeing about the hypotheticals of it ITT.
>>653143>Sounds like you got them pretty invested but didn't make a move. Your goal on dating apps should be to move your interactions off them as quickly as possible.Yeah I know, I do do that. But even then it's like you often have to pester them about arranging a date. I guess people are busy, but it's still rather annoying.
>Obviously not if you're whingeing about the hypotheticals of it ITT.Huh? The reason I choose to do without is because of the things I'm complaining about. That's fucking stupid. Desiring something in the abstract is different from consciously understanding you can do without it. I'm talking about my past experiences.
To me it's like we're talking about how to get rich off of crypto. You are saying investing time and money into crypto is a good investment, I'm saying I don't believe it is based on past experience of investing time and money into it without profit. Does that make sense?
>>653136>The saddest part is that he's genuinely charming and I've met women who liked him until they found out how nuts he was. You don't need more money, just meet new people, make friends, and give dating apps a shot just to gain experience.Bruh, you're in denial. You do need money to get a gf. What woman in her right mind wants a brokie as a bf? Unless you're charming, handsome, and talented, you need resources. Stop with this positivity bullshit. That's for little kids who dont know better.
>>653105And this is the kind of shit we condemn chuds for feeling like. Once again, LeftyPol making chuds out to be the enemy is failing to review your reflection in the mirror.
>>653155> No, finding a decent spouse in today's age is a nightmare, especially if you yourself aren't top of the line marriage material.That's because people forgot what marriage was supposed to be about. People think they're entitled to marriage without any sort of principles.
>Even if you get that husband or wife, 5-10 years down the road you find some bizarre shit like that guy here with the kid who wants to cheat with the femboy. I remember that anon.
>Or there was this other guy here who was with a woman for 10 years, then out of the blue she decides she's a transman. Show me the post link(s)
>>653140>It's just fucking exhausting. It's really identical to applying for jobs online. I only apply for jobs because it's either that or starve. I can do without pussy.That's the point of dating. You're trying to find a partner to spend a good chunk of your lifespan. Of course you're gonna grill your contestants. The problem is, people like to think that romance is something that's above worldly assessment.
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