As much as I hate the “Pick yourself up by your bootstraps” mentality I also hate the opposite which is nihilism which is just the mentality that “We are all doomed so just give up.” You can’t have blind optimism and be a slave to the system but you also can’t have no optimism and ultimately not fight the system at all.
I don't care
Fucking oekaki not working, ruined the joke
>>726890screenshort ut
>you seen to have msityped the verification<wat Smiling Friends is a perfect Reddit and /pol/ synthesis. Worst of the worst. Pure garbage.
Of course, Slopenhour and Nietzsche are braindead reactionary hacks.
>>726920True.
communism isnt about hope or ideals retards
>>726852That's not what nihilism means bruh.
Nihilism is simply the acknowledgement that all of our sources of meaning (religion, philosophy, etc) are inherently subjective and are not a fact of the universe. It doesn't prescribe how to react to that.
Also people who get their understanding of philosophy from a wacky cartoon written by e-celebs are manchildren.
>>726928I'm glad it worked out for you.
>>726931Isn't the point of nihilism then to find a fact of the universe?
I've mostly thought of nihilists as those who reject meaning and just embrace total negation.
>>726955Nihilists can't define what a fact is, they just gave a definition of a rejection.
I simply don't believe in anything. I know some things and don't know other things. I do not believe.
There is no more or less to nihilism except being fucking rad.
>>726925It's about hope for sure. All the materialism and theory in the world means jack shit without hope, just a bunch of nerds talking shit in ivory towers.
Pessimism of the intellect, optimism of the will
>>726928Why would you even support communism if you can't empathize with people who have miserable lives?
>>727014>means jack shit without hope>just a bunch of nerds talking shit in ivory towersyou sound like a retard projecting, communism is about necessity
>>727016>>727018lol more liberals who think communism is about being a savior figure to the proletariat because you stand completely outside the bounds of the class struggle
It‘s another episode of confusing nihilism with pessimism
>>727016Yeah bruh, the two definitely never interact with one another and couldn’t therefore contradict each other. Intellect exists on one immaterial plane of reality and will exists on another.
the logical endpoint to nihilism is anti-natalism xD
>>727035If you think people should commit suicide because they feel bad you're a retard larping faggot not a communist.
>>727024>communism is about necessityYes.
>you sound like a retard projectingProjecting what exactly? A hopeless proletariat is useless regardless of class consciousness.
>>727018I can empathize with you having a miserable life but I will never tolerate any anti-life or anti-natalist rethoric, I'm alive so if you shit on existance itself you are my enemy.
there is a difference between
my life sucks and
all life sucks >>727025Gramsci wrote that you absolute tard lmfao
>>727129and? you think im gonna call it any less retarded because your fav daddy figure said it? LOL
ive actually read gramsci. have you? or do you only have bite-sized quotes from him? the only morons who talk about him these days are liberals pretending to be communists. funny that youre all butthurt over that, but this shithole used to worship fucking mark fisher back then so i guess its not that surprising
reminder that gramsci was able to say shit like
< He [Lenin] and his Bolshevik comrades are convinced that it is possible to actualise socialism at any moment (…) Revolutionary thinking negates time as a factor of progress.and still be taken seriously as a communist lol
>>726920Sorry man it's actually funny and all normal people are having fun watching it.
>perfect Reddit and /pol/ synthesisMeaningless babble. Just say you don't like it. Communism isn't about consuming the right media anyway.
>>727129>>727154Antonio Gramsci's accomplishments:
1. Fascism
2. Getting misquoted by Zizek
3. Fat
>>727025marxist revolutionaries and the masses they organize/lead are different classes.
sorry to pop liberal anarchist christian "all equal before god" bubble, but that's the reality of building socialism.
>>727171did all of humanity unanimously agree, or was it only leaders who did? What if some people were not happy with it?
>>727623what in the fuck is a "marxist revolutionary"
>le masses rhetoric>implying communists stand outside the fucking proletarian movement aka communismhow much of a projecting retard do you have to believe this garbage and call others "liberal anarchist christians" lol
>>727648you are a retard, 'happiness' is a much more broad concept than 'opiate receptors recieving', plenty of people experience unhappiness and existential despair while on drugs, even strong painkillers, in fact i would argue the primary use for opiates and the like among addicts is Dissociation from their material conditions rather than 'pleasure' or 'happiness'.
>>727631Read mao, professional revolutionaries aren't proletarians
>>727649>'happiness' is a much more broad concept than 'opiate receptors recieving'I never claimed that that's all happiness was.
>plenty of people experience unhappiness and existential despair while on drugsWhich is a form of suffering they experience on top of the pleasure from the drugs, which brings their total net valence level down. I don't see how that's supposed to refute the general framework of utilitarianism.
>>727173Normal people don't own a television
>>727674The whole world isn't just zoomers.
>>727674>the average person doesnt pay/pirate/borrow at least one streaming service>what is youtube/tiktok/instagramlol you must be one seriously out of touch with reality autist
>>727668bro you posted a comic about people plugging themselves into lotus eater boxes, implying anyone who wouldn't do the same is just coping. i am not arguing against 'utilitarianism', merely disagreeing with you on what 'utility' can be defined as. i think infomed consent, for example, or believing you have a purpose in life, are important for human well-being moreso than physical pleasure.
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