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 No.11704

Why is it so hard for chans to be profitable and make money compared to other kinds of "social media" ? is it just the edginess? Or lack of data mining that comes with anonymity?

 No.11705

the demographics probably pre-select for a lot of adblock usage. I bet something like a linux forums would have the same problem.

 No.11706

Not an imageboard, but 2ch made money selling a fuckton of data to Japanese companies, and 4chan is probably doing the same rn considering the fact that Hiroyuki is a lying snake that only cares about profit.

 No.11707

Isn't it also really cheap to run an image board?

 No.11708

Imageboards are generally made for private and small communities they're not used for conventional forms of social media like youtube, reddit, tiktok etc. That's why they make little to no money and it's also why there are a fuck ton of imageboards

 No.11709

>>11707
you would think. you can run it on a really cheap VPS

 No.11710

>>11705
>the demographics probably pre-select for a lot of adblock usage. I bet something like a linux forums would have the same problem.
This, and also 4chan only have 1 ad per page? I dunno, I've never not had sdblock on in decades.

 No.11711

>>11704
>Why is it so hard for chans to be profitable and make money compared to other kinds of "social media" ?
Harder to mine anonymous users for data. Not because they don't have an IP address associated with you, but because you aren't (usually) building a personal profile and behaving according to an identity.

 No.11712

4chan advertises porn they probably make a complete killing off that

 No.11713

>>11712
stfu wrecker cuck

 No.11714

>>11713
based

 No.11715

>>11713
>wrecking another thread with this comment
Ironic

 No.11716

>>11713
Unbased

 No.11717

First forget existing forms like image boards and social media exist.
Now think about this starting from profitability, and work backwards.
You want to maximize the rent you can extract from advertisers.

1. Must be image or video based, so that ads can blend in with the other visual content.
2. Norms to funnel people to create content most similar to ads. Videos should be around the same length as an ad, so everything blends together and can't be re-separated.
3. Must be algorithmically moderated so you don't need to pay any workers.
4. Must have strong identities for two reasons.
- Minor reason: Increase the quality of targeting metrics
- Major reason: So brands can go down and mingle with the plebs. Force people to interact with brands using the same tools they interact with people (Likes and retweets).
5. Captive audience. You want people who have already had their autonomy constrained by circumstance, in this case platform. (Tech illiterates use phones and can't install adblockers to fight back).
6. Platform level data harvesting. Adverting companies want to see reports on where their money went, even if it's 100% a bullshit fantasy (Which it is). The more plausible deniability embedded in the system, the longer the system will operate without tearing itself apart.

Well done, you've invented instagram or tiktok. And not 4chan. Even reddit is clearly showing its age, and fails to be the most modern and extractive social media it could be.

 No.11718

>>11717
1. Chans require an OP which have images or videos (usually)
2. It's totally possible in theory, though not usually done, to have threads/posts which are the equivalent of "sponsored tweets" aka ads which look like normal tweets.
3. Even FB/Insta have manual moderation to some degree. Paying workers, esp. thirdoids to delete spam is way cheaper than making muh deep learning facial recognition spam deleter (tm) latte sipping silicon valley engineers that you have to pay $300k a year.
4. you're right, chans will never have this. It's inimical to the nature of chans. Even with accounts there's limited knowledge of the actual person. Pseudonymous platforms like twitter/reddit are much less profitable than insta/fb which have data mining up the wazoo.
5. Phonefagging is actively discouraged on chans by lack of official apps and also bad mobile CSS. Android has 4chanx at least. This could be corrected though by having mobile friendly CSS.
6. see 5

Your argument basically boils down to platforms which collect the most info and data mine the hardest are the most profitable

 No.11719

>>11718
Didn't read motherfucker. That wasn't an argument that needed a autistic point-for-point refutation.

 No.11720

>>11719
ok whatever the point is with the ability to host imageboards cheaply you would think they'd manage to make it work. I read somewhere hosting 4chan costs $20k a month. This is BS. for 4 app servers? Even with the beefiest servers and a load balancer any retard can create a chan for like a few hundred bucks a month MAX. Even bunkerchan at its peak only cost like $120 a month. With shit like that you'd THINK they'd be able to make SOME money on it. At most it should be like 1000 or 2000 dollars a month


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