No.19332
>she doesn't use a de-googled custom ROM
you have 10 seconds to explain why.
6-7 years ago, I could understand, LineageOS was buggy as shit for me and flashing microG was a pain. but now it's easy and smooth as fuck. flash TWRP, sideload custom ROM, install microG through F-droid.
my bank app works, messaging app works, phone boots very fast (way faster than MIUI for example). no google bloat, no xiaomi bloat, just the apps I want and nothing more. even the first modded Gcam apk I downloaded worked.
maps is provided by OpenStreetMaps (maps look better than GoogleMaps' cartoony shit anyway), location is provided by Nominatim, although you can use Mozilla or any of the other ones.
Find the forum for your phone on XDA-developers and have at it!
No.19333
>>19332>any of the other ones.*any of the other location provider backends.
You can do local/wifi only, meaning that it never connects to the internet or GPS to find your location, you can use GSM networks to find your position, you can use local databases, or you can use a backend that has a mix of the aforementioned. Free software is about choice.
No.19336
>>19332I use grapheneOS. No major issues, except my location is sometimes slow, and I haven't found a nice alternative to Google Maps, so I just use that.
No.19338
My phone is too old for it, it is not supported.
No.19339
>>19337What do the red stars mean? Communist party offices?
No.19340
>>19337How do I change provider? It takes so long to get my location, like more than a minute.
No.19341
>>19338I think they're historical points of interest.
>>19340You install them on f-droid from the microg repo.
>pic relatedThen you go into microg settings (Location Modules) and enable the one you want to use.
No.19342
>>19341there are others, but I haven't looked too much into them.
https://github.com/microg/UnifiedNlp/wiki/Backends No.19343
>>19341Ohh, I don't have microg, I don't think that will work. GraphenOS generally works well without microG.
No.19344
>>19343No, GrapheneOS does not use microg, they have their own thing. They also use their own location backend. Problem with Graphene is that it can only be installed on Google Pixel phones.
No.19349
Closed-source custom Android ROMs are your alternative to corporate spyware?
No.19350
>>19349?
https://github.com/ArrowOShttps://source.android.com/docs/setup/about/licensesYou can argue the Apache license and the MIT license are not free according to the FSF, but you can still download the source code of the ROM. Pretty sure nothing is stopping you from compiling your own image.
No.19352
>>19349It's ridiculous tbh. How the fuck are you supposed to trust an anonymous ROM from xda or whatever. Has anyone ever done a security audit on any of them?
No.19354
>>19352You use a traffic analyser to see which apps are contacting what servers. So it is easy to see if your phone is sending data somewhere you don't want it to?
Or do you think the Indian devs are gonna put something in it that messes with your karma or interferes with your chakras?
No.19355
>>19352Also
>Has anyone ever done a security audit on any of them?Who did the security audit on your phone? Google? Xiaomi? Why is Google more trustworthy than some Indian teenager working on the phone OS as a hobby? I remember being young and having lots of free time.
What data can he possibly get anyway? Oh no, he'll see the porn sites you visit! You don't actually have Google pay or store any kind of sensitive (non-public) information like your credit card in your phone, do you? Do you think every apk on the Play Store is audited? If you getb"hacked" and your credit card stolen, it is all on you for putting a thing that exists outside of the internet (except when in use) on a device that is permanently connected to the Internet.
Do you let your phone connect to the privileged part of your LAN? It should be on a separate, untrusted subnet, so it can't interact with your computers.
There's so much shit that you can do for security (that you probably don't do) that the custom ROM in your phone would be the least of your worries.
No.19356
I need Google maps to keep track of my parents who are advanced in age and might need assistance so I need to know where they are at all times and google maps helps with that.
I don't sue my phone for any non-normie stuff anyway, anything sensitive that I need to do, I do it from my computer.
No.19357
>>19356and you trust your parents' life with a free service? There are tracking devices that don't use google maps. In fact, there are ones for the elderly that monitor heart rate and can detect a fall and notify you immediately. Dot on Google maps moves even though you're standing still, how will you be able to tell if they're dancing or choking on the ground?
No.19461
>>19332I've never really considered rooting my phone before but I might now, MIUI is fucking awful, I can't believe it's legal to stuff my phone with so much adware that can't be removed
No.19462
>>19355At least I know that Google isn't randomly going to steal my credit card information, that's quite important actually, are you telling me you type that shit in new every single time?
No.19463
>>19460but my sexy ROMs. how could this be.
No.19491
>>19462>At least I know that Google isn't randomly going to steal my credit card informationit won't be google, doofus.
https://firewalltimes.com/google-data-breach-timeline/https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/31/google-fi-customer-data-breach/>are you telling me you type that shit in new every single time?…yes? Are you unable to remember 16 numbers, a date and three more numbers? lol Takes me no more than 10s to fill in each time.
No.19492
I use Google pay and that requires securenet to be enabled. I don't care about privacy.
No.19501
>>19491Can't even remember my number I've had for two years. 😭
No.19502
>>19501Well you are supposed to store the number in a safe. Remembering it would entail the possibility of divulging it under torture or getting picked up by on of those newfangled mind reading devices.
No.19503
Fact you can brick your phone doing this and mainly just flagship models are supported it's obvious why most who cant afford to lose a few hundred dollars don't try.
No.19504
>>19497For whatever reason when I rooted my phone securenet got disabled and all the workarounds failed.
No.19521
>>19503>it's obvious why most who cant afford to lose a few hundred dollars don't try.>installing a custom OS is bourgeoisthe point is to extend the life of a device after official support has ended, thus removing the need to buy a new phone. you're just looking for excuses not to do anything. in fact, in your head doing nothing is better than doing something, because anything but working 9-5, eating, sleeping, watching anime and jacking off is bourgeois.
of course you don't care if you can be tracked, you do fuck all anyway.
>"sir, he went to taco bell again today!">"my god, the capitalist system is about to crumble. trace him!" No.19522
>>19521painful liberalism
No.19523
>>19504sometimes it happens, you can unroot the phone. anon complained about lack of support for devices. that's only because of a lack of maintainers.
No.19524
>>19522>painful liberalism<liberalism is when you don't throw away your old phone and buy a new one every yearmost smartphones get 1-2 years of security updates, if that. have fun mining crypto for some Russian hacker lol, you fucking fool
No.19525
>>19524>have fun mining crypto for some Russian hacker lolsays the guy suggesting closed-source roms
No.19526
>>19525https://github.com/ArrowOShttps://source.android.com/docs/setup/about/licensesAOSP, and most of the OSs based on it are open source. You're thinking of the guy with Graphene OS that is only available for Google Pixel phones.
You should read a thread and do some research into the topic before commenting. You're not contributing, what you're doing is informing us you don't understand what the thread is about. And apparently that makes you angry lol
No.19528
There are several OSes on your phone. You are an unprivileged guest user on one of the OSes. A privileged user of the other OSes has full access to the hardware and networks. You don't.
How about that recent revelation that qualcomm has been exfiltrating data through AGPS requests and doing who knows what with it, and sharing access with who knows who.
No.19530
>>19526uhhhhh Graphene OS is floss too lol
>You should read a thread and do some research into the topic before commentingsecond projection in a row, amazing
No.19537
>>19530I thought the "sandboxed google compatibility" layer used closed source binary blobs from Google, that's why no other custom OS has it. They also use their own location services, are those open source? Does it require closed source binary blobs in its kernel to work on Google Pixel phones?
No.19538
>>19537>binary blobswait until you hear about the rest…
No.19554
>>19355>There's so much shit that you can do for security (that you probably don't do) that the custom ROM in your phone would be the least of your worries.The absolute state of this board
No.19562
>>19554>The absolute state of this board>he posted from behind 7 proxies, 3 VPNs, and tor<from chrome browser while logged into his google account with an email he uses for school work with his real name on ityou're a ghost, man
No.19563
>>19562who the fuck are you quoting rofl
No.19566
>>19562wow incredibly accurate dont hack me bro
No.19578
>>19333GPS and Grpahene OS work. GPS is a 1 way signal.
No.20118
>>19355>Do you let your phone connect to the privileged part of your LAN? It should be on a separate, untrusted subnet, so it can't interact with your computers.
>There's so much shit that you can do for security (that you probably don't do) that the custom ROM in your phone would be the least of your worries.Okay how do noobs learn to all this shit practically speaking though? Like a checklist of shit to do. Most opsec guides are like at least 60 percent "git gud n00b" surely a lefty site can do better
No.20552
>>19336Organic maps is excellent, except the public transport feature doesn't work in most places. For the time being whenever I'm in a unfamiliar city I download the public transport maps before going there as a PDF. And for intercity travel I just check the train/coach/plane company website. Or if I buy thickets with cash I just use language to express what I want.
No.20553
I use Calyx because Graphene's reliance on a Google hardware black box just doesn't sit right with me
No.20556
>>20553Can't you say this about any vendor that uses proprietary firmware and drivers tho?
No.20634
>>20553It does with me. Not because I buy into the only pixels meet our high security standards meme. I'm not even on graphene anymore, but google pixels are my only recommendation for people who ask me about what phone is the best for the sole reason that it comes with ab unlocked and relockable bootloader that doesn't void your warranty. And even if you buy old I'd rather not unlock it using dubious 3rd party kernel hacks.
No.20635
>>20634 (me)
Forgot to say, I work for google.
No.20651
>>20634well link us to the ROM that you're using comrade. basic install instructions will be fine
No.20652
I just installed GrapheneOS on my new Pixel after having only used LineageOS on my previous phone. Installing Graphene was a fucking breeze compared to Lineage, which took me hours and made me just want to buy an iPhone. Graphene is the peak of privacy-centric ROMs
No.20654
>>20653Banking apps work flamelessly with microG services. I get the warning about "Google services required" on some apps, but I just close the warning message and continue to log in/use the app normally.
No.21324
>Find the forum for your phone on XDA-developers and have at it!
How? What exactly do I look for in the forum especially if I'm a noob?
No.21330
>>21324If you're a noob it might be better to get an old phone and fuck with that before messing with your main
No.21332
>>21330I already managed to flash GrapheneOS onto it. Looked around seems like avbroot is also good to patch it with.
No.21334
>>21332damn nice work for a noob. planning on getting a graphene phone sometime. I wonder how it identifies itself to the network, like is it a massive advertisement that you care a lot about security?
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