I'm not interested cuz I have a 1st gen Ryzen 1600 and it does everything I need. I'm not a gamer either.
I'm glad AMD, despite being far ahead of Intel, is still the budget brand.>>4620
Gen 2 Ryzen kicks Gen 1 Ryzen's ass. Is yours AF? If not, consider getting a cheap used one. You'll get better performance for less energy use.
Not interested in any new AMD/Intel CPUs until they remove their NSA-mandated backdoors.
I thought PSP's inherent flaws can only be exploited by having physical access, unlike IME which can be accessed remotely and controls everything.
same i have 1800x.
i use will upgrade every 8-10 years or in case of hardware failure>>4625
i wonder if IBM POWER9 has those type of backdoor 99% sure they have it due to it's popularity with thinker
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I haven't bought a new CPU in over 10 years so…
Reminder that Marx encouraged consumerism and was only against capitalism putting a brake on letting people fulfill their desires.
Marx died before consumerism existed.
>>4624>Gen 2 Ryzen kicks Gen 1 Ryzen's ass. Is yours AF? If not, consider getting a cheap used one. You'll get better performance for less energy use.
1600AF is only like 5-10% faster at best and has the same TDP as 1600.
Also I'd use cpubenchmark.net next time, the owner of the website you posted has a bias against AMD he doesn't even bother hiding so I'm not sure how reliable their results are.
Now that Zen 4/PCIE5/DDR5 is round the corner, how much time is best to wait before upgrading to the next generation? I'm sure their first few hardware iterations won't be particularly stable just yet
Still have an OC AMD FX 8350, my old GPU started to die and got a newer one now the CPU causes bottlenecks so gonna upgrade when zen 4 comes out.
I have an 8350 and I won't be upgrading until a CPU without an NSA backdoor is released.
I recently got a Ryzen 5 3600 so I won't be upgrading any time soon. but am4+ socket is gonna be good for the next 3-4 generations so even if you get in early you'll be able to upgrade later.
>>12646>I won't be upgrading until a CPU without an NSA backdoor is released.
what are you talking about?
>>12646> I won't be upgrading until a CPU without an NSA backdoor is released.
doesn't every cpu have a backdoor?
The FX series were the last AMD CPUs without their PSP coprocessor, a blackbox running unaccountable proprietary code with full access to the system.
Apparently some motherboard bioses have an option to disable PSP
Now, I'm just cynical, but how trustworthy is a "Blackbox Backdoor: On/Off" switch, really? I didn't look much into it but Win8/10 also came with options to "disable telemetry" and it seems that was mostly placebo, to encourage adoption.
Like if the feds come and install a blackbox on your car, tell you it's a GPS tracker and your car will stop working if you tamper with it but
they give you a handy dashboard button that they pinky swear disables it. Would you buy it? I'd still use the car, I got no other options but I'd file it as the agent having lost a bet or something.
Can't these backdoor-systems be used for improving security ? It's a system that runs beneath your system, it would be the ideal place to install a firewall and other kinds of security systems.
Why is the goal to get rid of this stuff instead of repurposing it?
The way towards "repurposing" such a processor would need a lot of reverse-engineering and even if someone managed to execute arbitrary code on it, who is to know how backdoors might still be activated e.g. by signed networking request. IMHO the best chance for any programming and eventual backdoor mitigation on such coprocessors would be a series of major leaks from a CPU vendor.
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