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 No.8164

How bad is Spotify?

It's a bourgeoise vice, but I really like it. I hate having to search all over the web to pirate albums, organize those albums in my desktop, and transfer transfer both to my phone and laptop from my desktop. Spotify just makes the process so much easier. I can listen from any device I want. I want to add some songs to my playlist? I search it up and add it in a matter of seconds. I want to share music? I copy a link and send it over in seconds. Spotify has 99% of the music I listen to and I don't even listen to mainstream stuff.

Should I really make the effort to switch back to pirating? Should I stop prioritizing comfort over data security? What does /tech/ think?international_brigadeInternational Brigade

 No.8165

Well it's obviously a big fucking botnet like all proprietary mobile apps. Also they're miserable to artists.

 No.8166

>>8165
But should I really care if I'm in a music botnet? I mean, the only data they can get is what I listen to—why should I care about that?international_brigadeInternational Brigade

 No.8167

>>8166
lol

Well torrenting is retarded easy, I dunno why you'd ever stop.

 No.8168

https://newpipe.net/ newpipe is a free (of charge, but also free) android app that lets you use youtube with no ads, and you can have audio in the background or in a popup window. newpipe has been the reason not to use spotify for me, for so longgentooGentoo

 No.8169

I never switched away from pirating. My digital music collection has been growing for 15 years and while probably 90% of it is available on Spotify I wouldn't trade it away for anything.

What about the rare radio freestyles I downloaded on underground rap forums ~2006?
What about the rare compilations and B-sides?
What about all the fanmade video game remixes from OCRemix?
What about the hundreds of datpiff mixtapes?
What about fanmade remasters that eclipse the botched commercial release (e.g. Frances the Mute)?
What about songs that get region-locked or that Spotify loses the rights to or may lose the right to in the future?
What if I want the ability to play the music on any device, at any time, without the device ever connecting to the internet?

If you have to ask why piracy is better then you're obviously already at home in the botnet. You yourself say it's convenient and has everything you need, so what's the problem?

 No.8170

>>8167
Not when I don't have a dependable torrent site and I have to scout a million sites just to listen to music.international_brigadeInternational Brigade

 No.8171

>>8170
>soulseek

 No.8172

>>8168
I had an app like that on my phone but I deleted it because I'm trying to make my phone as "dumb" as possible.

Also youtube quality is crap.

>>8169
1% of the music I like isn't on spotify but I pirate those and put in on my phone. Easier than doing it for every single album that I listen to.international_brigadeInternational Brigade

 No.8173

>>8170
I just "google" whatever I need and find it immediately lol, mostly lossless even.

 No.8174

>>8173
Maybe it's different now. I got on Spotify in 2016. Back then, it was a real pain in the ass to pirate everything. Perhaps it's easier now. If it is, maybe I'll switch back.international_brigadeInternational Brigade

 No.8175

I got a huge music collection, but I've been using Spotify because most devices today are so storage averse that it became a pain carrying even 1/3rd of my ENORMOUS library around.

I really wish there was a 1TB music player with bluetooth and some internet connectivity

>>8170
use Soulseek dummy

 No.8176

>>8175
SD cards?

 No.8178

>>8175
https://store.hiby.com/products/hiby-r3-pro-saber
Mine's going strong after 4 years.

plus an SD card like >>8176 says. If you really need 1TB you're gonna have to cough up another 200 clams for the storage. No way around that though.

 No.8191

>>8164
Spotify is great for discovering new music from it's playlists and shit.
I still pirate music after finding stuff from it.

Sucks there's not way to download stuff from it though. I don't want to download from deezer or youtube.

 No.8199

>>8164
Sounds like you're too far gone, stick to goyify.

 No.10335


 No.10336

>>8164
just use soulseek (nicotine+) to download music

 No.10367


 No.10368

join a private tracker, you can get the best version of any album you want and people there know how to rip music from streaming services. supplement with soulseek or just use soulseek alone if you're not picky about quality control
you can use funkwhale create your own private streaming service tailored to your needs

 No.10369

>>10367
based testimonials

 No.10370


 No.10513

>>8191
There is though. I found this app on F-Droid called SpotiFlyer that literally does that. I'm not a tech expert, but I trust F-Droid apps for privacy and it only wants permission to access storage do download the file, but you can see that on their F-droid page.

 No.11826

Stop paying porky a monthly fee for spotify.
$5 for a lifetime Spotify subscription, you can transfer your existing spotify playlists too using spotmybackup.

https://spotify.ac/
It really works, trust me.

 No.11832

> I want to share music? I copy a link and send it over in seconds.
That does not work because any self-respecting person will refuse to click on your link and use Spotify.
https://stallman.org/spotify.html

 No.11836

>>8164
>How bad is Spotify?
the worst

 No.13309


 No.13320

Less bad than Amazon and YouTube but still shit. Just torrent, for fuck's sake.

 No.13321

>>11832
Based.

 No.13323

>>11832
people that share streaming links that aren't youtube can shove it up their ass

 No.13324

I have a tiny script to quickly turn songs into a lower bitrate file and upload it to my personal server whenever I want to share anything.

 No.13400

spotify isn't convenient unless you wanna listen to a bunch of awful industry plants and barely anything actually worth listening to

 No.13401

>>13400
at least apple music has a proper catalogue

 No.13408

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WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DOWNLOAD INDIVIDUAL RANDOM SONGS

I DON'T WANNA DOWNLOAD ALBUMS OR DO THAT PEER TO PEER STUFF

PLS GIVE ME A LIST OF SITES WITH GOOD QUALITY

I DON'T WANT TO USE YT TO MP3 CONVERTERS

 No.13413

>>13408
beemp3 was the best for this but it's gone now, so time to get into p2p

 No.13415

>>13408
Still torrents…? You can select which files you want to download, unless the uploader was a fucking retard and made a torrent of a single compressed file.

 No.13418

>>13408
Soulseek (Nicotine+ client)
>>13413
Know any alternatives to Soulseek for torrenting music nowadays?

 No.13419

>>13418
rutracker if you don't want to get into private tracker autism.

 No.13420

>>13419
I never made the TPB -> rutracker jump because rutracker requires login
You saying it's still worth it? Should I just make an acc? Also is there an onion?

 No.13421

>>13420
"site:rutracker.org [keywords]" in your search engine
>>13418
>>>/music/3717

 No.13429

>>10367
I made this and I absolutely don't want any leftards to use it or promote it.

 No.13430

>>10367
>Say goodbye to proprietary music players filled with ads, tracking, and profiling.
<Nuclear supports Youtube, Soundcloud, Bandcamp,
does not compute.

 No.13431

>>13429
what? are u frfr?

 No.13462

>>13415
i downloaded an actual .cue file and don't know how to extract the song out of it

i do that, but lot of them are flac files or old songs that don't get seeed torrents

 No.13463

>>13429
blow us rightoid
we don't want it anyways

>makes foss, seethes about lefties


why are you even here then?

 No.13465

>>13462
You need a .flac or whatever else file with that .cue. Also, flacon will split that for you if you don't want to use a terminal.

 No.15113

I use BlockTheSpot
hwo odes it work and will i get banned for it

i think it seems to work like an adblock for host files instead of modifying the client

so i must be safe? https://github.com/mrpond/BlockTheSpot

 No.15114

>>13465
thanks
i used a foobar extension that did that

 No.15121

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 No.15197

>>8166

The botnet is inescapable. Everybody is talking about how they are getting advertised for stuff they didn't even search for, only that it came up in conversation.

NSA have more enough indications that you are a marxist. The NSA don't care that you are marxist. We are so far away from any achieving any meaningful improvements to our lives that the porkies have simply made a game about how much they can get away with.

 No.15198

>>8164
Pirate.
BlockTheSpot works, sometimes needs reinstallation >>15113
For downloading from Spotify playlists: https://github.com/Shabinder/SpotiFlyer
Soulseek gets an obvious mention and so does youtube-dl. Youtube-dl + mpv makes it pretty easy to stream stuff from youtube, including usermade playlists. Keep a text file of links to playlists and albums and just mpv it them.

 No.15199

retarded /g/ tier thread
just use soulseek or another p2p network like everyone with half a brain's used for the past 20+ years

 No.16620

Use Xmanager on android
Bleed spotify

 No.17335

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https://github.com/abba23/spotify-adblock
I've been using this one for a while, works pretty well on GNU/Linux.

 No.17408

https://github.com/Rafiuth/Soggfy

Someone made a program that can actually get you the files directly from spotify.ogg


>Soggfy works by intercepting Spotify's OGG parser and capturing the unencr​ypted data during playback. This process is similar to recording, but it results in an exact copy of the original file served by Spotify, without ever extracting k​eys or actually re-downloading it.

Conversion and metadata is then applied according to user settings.

What do you think?

 No.17409

The utility is good the problem is they remove shit as seemingly random and you never know until you know. Very fucking annoying. I'm too lazy to pirate or switch and I get Hulu free with it, so here I am tho.

 No.17410

8tracks used to be best streaming site because there is no algorithm and you just listen to other people's playlists. It went downhill after some anti piracy moves. Before you could upload any song you wanted easily but that only effects you if you wanted to make playlists.

 No.17889

Use playerctl to save files & metadata to automatically save and organise songs as you listen to them on Spotify. Maybe I'll make a script to actually do this at some point

 No.17893

Spotify is the only way for me to listen to music while at work, everything else is blocked and phone isn't allowed at operations. Should I just bite the bullet and use Spotify?

 No.17894

>>17893
cant you literally download music onto a thumb drive and play it on your computer?

 No.17895

>>17894
yeah but that takes like, clicking stuff, and pressing a key once in a while

 No.17896

>>17893
Yes, why not?

 No.17900

If you block ads and trackers no need to pirate via download since that in itself is a more effective pirating because you use their resources to no benafit to them. That said, Spotify is among the worst when it comes to how artists get paid unless they are big time mainstream artists they make basically nothing. Bandcamp is one of the better sites and many artists set up their albums where you can pick your own price so you can pat what you can afford and more money goes to the actactual artist.

 No.17904

>>17894
Also not allowed to bring into the operations floor because of security.

 No.17972

>>8164
>Should I really make the effort to switch back to pirating?
No, OP from 2021.

Use stable diffusion on a database of tagged images of sound to make a new/remixed image from text prompts and convert that image back to sound:
https://www.riffusion.com

 No.18013

>>8169
Yeah I'm in this same boat. I'm not going to outsource my media or computing anymore, I get fucked over way too often from it. Videos I watch get deleted, songs I like get deleted or region locked, something controversial gets perma ghosted from the net and I have to go find it on archive.org or some bullshit. Just not worth it, I'll save it all locally and deal with the hassle, at least I can trust myself to not fuck up my collections

 No.18025

>Should I
>Should I
>But should I
>why should I
What is it with people who need to be told what to do? And what makes them think that anyone gives a fuck about what they do?

 No.18028

>>18025
Lots of people use streaming platforms and have doubts over them
It’s a conversation starter

 No.18029

>>18025
Shut the fuck up Stirner
'Should' has the implied question that they're deciding whether an action will or will not be beneficial to their goals. That's a valid course of action.

>>8164
>paying a middleman host
>ever
>especially when they take a HUEG FUGGIN CUT
Unironically, pirate and donate directly to artists to incentivize them under capitalism.
It's usually really easy once you have a few sites.

 No.18036

>>13430
you can use an invidous exclusively for sourcing music

 No.18037

You could host your own streaming service. That way you'd have access to all of your pirated (and legally acquired) files, potentially from anywhere, without having to manually copy them to your destination device everytime.

There are different ways of doing this depending on your situation and your needs. I currently have a basic setup, which consists of a physical server PC at my bro's place, a Wireguard tunnel between my house and his, DDNS to keep track of our IP addresses, and media stored on a TrueNAS volume, which I access via NFS/SMB shares. There are ways to expand on this, such as by installing a media player like Jellyfin, and by making it accessible from anywhere on the Internet (not just through Wireguard).

It's a nice personal project if you're into this kind of stuff. There is an initial cost, especially if you're looking to host from home, but you can repurpose an older PC for this, and if you decide to buy a server, then at least then you get to keep all the hardware (eventually upgrade it, repurpose it or sell it), not to mention you have full control over the content and how long it stays there, and you don't have to keep paying subscription fees and lose everything if you stop paying. You could also just rent a VPS if you can't or don't want to mess with hardware yourself, or if you want to just simplify the whole process to just installing Jellyfin/Plex and dropping some files on there.


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