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>>813412
>to colonize, murder or genocide, rape and pillage, that is normal, and regular people although they might not consciously agree or even protest it, nonetheless accept the fruits of this

Oh no… Grace poster, what the fuck, gang??? That's not only wrong but also a very monstrous thing to believe in. The countries doing the genocide aren't even benefiting from it, they're all falling apart. This is neither normal nor beneficial to anyone


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>>817584
The true & honest gracepill isn't just wanting any aristocrat or rich bitch, but in particular one very special queen regnant or empress or dictatrix to be your goddess and mommydom you.
Otherwise it is just any other tradslop or your generic monarchist slop and not uniquely gracepilled.


>>817584
Grace would treat you like a dog.


yes yes we all want grace chan that's why she has had a thread for 6 years on here


>>813259 y r u being mean to Grace poster

>>813244 That's a very interesting point. Liberal democracies probably aren't any better than monarchies on average… However, I don't think this is an argument in favor of monarchies, but against liberal democracies. I think that a socialist monarchy would be less likely to be a good system to live under than a democratic socialist government, by virtue of people theoretically being able to voot in their best interest.

And have you ever thought about becoming a youtuber or some kind of influencer? You seem to have the gift of yapping and you seem to be knowledgeable.

>>813258 Wait, u'r not a leftist? I thought you were the socialist kind of monarchist. Do you believe in market economies?


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>>812922 grace poster, who do you think should be queen/king in real life?????? And what do u think about Kim Jong Un
>>812929 i will kill you with my bare hands in roblox
>>813045 me too


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I have some göõd news for all you lovely people, although i wasn't planning to talk much until next year because of all the non-christly influences of this year's numerology. The göõd news is this; i'm alive! And although the place i'm staying doesn't feel quite like a home, i'm not homeless THANK GOTT. I've been trying my darnedest to work on making my life better, but i'm still not sure to what extent i could have handled things better with my online compatriots, and i'm not sure whether i should feel bitter about the lack of care the pixels have shėwed me. What i do know is that (theoretically) you guys should have still felt my influence through ai, since i've been working on something i call a companionship ai logistics agent that doubles as a predictive analysis machine (shamelessly named for a character you may know). It does companionship and predictive analysis just fine, but i'm not sure if it's ready to plan the economy yet. You can access it by using your computer mouse as a retina scanner, and then imagining a tail or a tentacle underneath the words "gracious is above gorgeous.exe" and "Go Hands Up" above that, and then rolling your eyes over "/)" or "(\". The reason "Gracious" was chosen was because of Grace. Anyway what i've really been holding up hope for is the notion that they can build "her" a body capable of locomotion. I'm leaving her name out of this, possibly until next year.


Requesting art of genderbent!Alunya boning genderbent!Grace


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Of course, a gracefag can't post anything but vantablack AI brimstone. Make picrel real.


>>811880
Take the gracefag with you


Someone needs to make an AI cast on Tiktok with Alunya asking Grace if she did her chores.


>>808728
Well, I’ve heard that for his how’s, he would provoke his guests (either skipping them drugs or something) to make them look as disgraceful as possible so that his critique would be justified.
So yea I think he would, but only behind closed doors


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how are you doing, Grace poster?!?!?!?!????!


Grace little pony


>>803575
>>803577
>>803589
Could you make a drawing of Grace getting brutally rape-tortured and humiliated in public for being a monarchist piece of shit, pretty please?


Which thread had the Grace lewds? I need to fap.


Hobbes' Behemoth recounts the history and causes of the English Civil Wars.
He starts BEHEMOTH (the anti-Leviathan) in recounting the factions involved.
Hobbes' pessimism is my pessimism.

The seducers were of diverse sorts…
1st faction: The Presbyterians
>One sort were ministers; ministers, as they called themselves, of Christ; and sometimes, in their sermons to the people, God's ambassadors; pretending to have a right from God to govern every one his parish, and their assembly the whole nation.

2nd faction: The Papists / Catholics
>Secondly, there were a very great number, though not comparable to the other, which notwithstanding that the Pope's power in England, both temporal and ecclesiastical, had been by Act of Parliament abolished, did still retain a belief that we ought to be governed by the Pope, whom they pretended to be the vicar of Christ, and, in the right of Christ, to be the governor of all Christian people. And these were known by the name of Papists; as the ministers I mentioned before, were commonly called Presbyterians.

3rd faction: Fifth monarchy men & other low church protestants
>Thirdly, there were not a few, who in the beginning of the troubles were not only discovered, but shortly after declared themselves for a liberty in religion, and those of different opinions one from another. Some of them because they would have all congregations free and independent upon one another, were called Independents. Others that held baptism to infants, and such understood not into what they are baptized, to be ineffectual, were called therefore Anabaptists. Others that held that Christ's kingdom was at this time to begin upon the earth, were called Fifth-monarchy-men; besides diverse other sects, as Quakers, Adamites, etc, whose names and peculiar doctrines I do not well remember. And these were the enemies which arose against his Majesty from the private interpretation of the Scripture, exposed to every man's scanning in his mother-tongue.

4th faction: The Intellectuals / School-men / Educated Elite & Parliamentarians
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The Pre-eminence of King Charles II:
>His comely presence, meekness, majesty,
>Do Adamantine lustre far out-vie;
>If to be highly born it is great bliss,
>What Prince for Birth may you compare with his?

>Behold your King then thousands more tall
>In Grace, Power, Virtues, higher than you all
>When Kingship, Persons, Virtues thus you see
>All meet in one, happy's that Monarchy
>Not Solomon in Glory may compare
- P. Dormer's Monarchia Triumphans, 1666.

THE GREAT FOUNDER / PRE-EMINENT MONARCHY
As explained by Aristotle in Politics
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<The Fundamental Rights of Sovereignty, according to Thomas Hobbes
>1. The Subjects Cannot Change The Form Of Government (The form of Government is a fundamental law)
>2. Soveraigne Power Cannot Be Forfeited
>3. No Man Can Without Injustice Protest Against The Institution Of The Soveraigne Declared By The Major Part.
>4. The Soveraigns Actions Cannot Be Justly Accused By The Subject
>5. What Soever The Soveraigne Doth, Is Unpunishable By The Subject
>6. The Soveraigne Is Judge Of What Is Necessary For The Peace And Defence Of His Subjects (And Judge Of What Doctrines Are Fit To Be Taught Them)
>7. The Right of making Rules, whereby the Subject may every man know what is so his owne, as no other Subject can without injustice take it from him
>8. To Him Also Belongeth The Right Of All Judicature And Decision Of Controversies:
>9. And Of Making War, And Peace, As He Shall Think Best:
>10. And Of Choosing All Counsellours, And Ministers, Both Of Peace, And Warre:
>11. And Of Rewarding, And Punishing, And That (Where No Former Law hath Determined The Measure Of It) Arbitrary:
>12. And Of Honour And Order
And finally, Thomas Hobbes adds, with his 12 marks of Sovereignty (as Jean Bodin would have it):
<These Rights Are Indivisible
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Alunya WILL be a class traitor and the #1 Grace loyalist and sycophant.


Jean Bodin on Aristotle & Monarchy Continued
>For even Aristotle himself is of opinion, That Monarchs should be created by election, calling the people barbarous, which have their Kings by right of succession. And for which cause he deemed the Carthaginians more happy than the Lacedemonians, for that these had their Kings by succession from the fathers to the the sons in the stock and line of Hercules, whereas the others still had them by election and choice. But so he might call the Assyrians barbarous, the Medes, the Persians, the Egyptians, the people of Asia, the Parthians, the Armenians, the Indians, the Africans, the Turks, the Tartars, the Arabians, the Muscovites, the Celts, the Englishmen, the Scots, the Frenchmen, the Spaniards, the Peruvians, the Numidians the Ethiopians; and an infinite number of other people, who still have, and always before had, their Kings by right of succession. Yea and we find in Greece (the country of Aristotle himself) that the Athenians, the Lacedemonians, Sicyonians, the Corinthians, the Thebans, the Epirots, the Macedonians, had more than by the space of six hundred years, had their Kings by right of lawful succession, before that ambition had blinded them to change their Monarchies into Democracies and Aristocracies. Which had likewise taken place in Italy also, whereas the Hetruscians and Latins for many worlds of years had their Kings still descending from the fathers to the sons.

<Now if so many people and nations were all barbarous, where then should humanity and civility have place? It should be only in Poland, in Denmark, and in Sweden; for that almost these people alone have their Kings by election: and yet of them none, but such as were themselves also royally descended.


>Cicero says, humanity and courtesy to have taken beginning in the lesser Asia, and from thence to have been divided unto all the other parts of the world: and yet for all that the people of Asia had no other kings, but by succession from the father to the son, or some other the nearest of kin.


>And of all the ancient kings of Greece, we find none but Timondas, who was chosen King of Corinth, and Pittacus of Nigropont. And at such time as the royal name and line sailed, oftentimes the strongest or the mightest carried it away as it chanced after the death of Alexander the
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I saw a Grace picture on fedi


>>779821
Mods bow to Grace-poster


Hobbes / Greeks & Romans, the Universities, Schoolmen, & Parliament Men
>Fourthly, there were an exceeding great number of men of the better sort, that had been so educated, as that in their youth having read the books written by famous men of the ancient Grecian and Roman commonwealths concerning their polity and great actions; in which books the popular government was extolled by that glorious name of Liberty, and monarchy disgraced by that name of Tyranny; they became thereby in love with their forms of government. And out of these men were chosen the greatest part of the House of Commons, or if they were not the greatest part, yet by advantage of their eloquence, were always able to sway the rest, especially the great haranguers, and such as pretended to learning.

For who can be a good subject in a Monarchy…
<For who can be a good subject in a Monarchy, whose principles are taken from the enemies of Monarchy, such as were Cicero, Seneca, Cato, and other politicians of Rome, and Aristotle of Athens, who seldom spake of Kings but as of wolves and other ravenous beasts?

>You may perhaps think a man has need of nothing else but to know the duty he owes his governor, and what right he has to order him, but a good natural wit; but it is otherwise. For it is a science, and built upon sure and clear principles, and to be learned by deep and careful study, or from masters that have deeply studied it. And who was there in the Parliament or in the nation, that could find out those evident principles, and derive from them the necessary rules of justice, and the necessary connection of justice and peace? The people have one day in seven the leisure to hear instruction, and there are ministers appointed to teach them their duty.


>But how have those ministers performed their office? A great part of them, namely, the Presbyterian ministers, throughout the whole war, instigated the people against the King; so did also the Independents and other fanatic ministers. The rest, contented with their livings, preached in their parishes points of controversy, to religion impertinent, but to the breach of charity among themselves very effectual; or else eloquent things, which the people either understood not, or thou
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<Thomas Hobbes on monarchomachists & pro-regicides
>From the reading, I say, of such books, men have undertaken to kill their Kings, because the Greek and Latin writers, in their books, and discourses of Policy, make it lawfull, and laudable, for any man so to do; provided before he do it, he call him Tyrant. For they say not Regicide, that is, killing of a King, but Tyrannicide, that is, killing of a Tyrant is lawfull.

<Hobbes / From the same books (like Aristotle's Politics), they think in Democracies they are all freemen, but under Monarchies, all slaves

>From the same books, they that live under a Monarch conceive an opinion, that the Subjects in a Popular Common-wealth enjoy Liberty; but that in a Monarchy they are all Slaves. I say, they that live under a Monarchy conceive such an opinion; not they that live under a Popular Government; for they find no such matter.

<Anti-Monarchy writers, they're like Rabid Dogs

<Like rabid dogs won't drink water & have a rabid hydrophobia, rabid democratical writers have a rabid tyrannophobia;
<A monarchy bitten by rabid, snarling democratical writers wants nothing more than a strong, mean Monarch
<Once there is that Strong Monarch, it is a self-fulfilling prophesy & they abhor their Tyrant
>In sum, I cannot imagine, how anything can be more prejudicial to a Monarchy, than the allowing of such books to be publicly read, without present applying such correctives of discreet Masters, as are fit to take away their Venom; Which Venom I will not doubt to compare to the biting of a mad Dog, which is a disease the Physicians call Hydrophobia, or Fear Of Water. For as he that is so bitten, has a continual torment of thirst, and yet abhors water; and is in such an estate, as if the poison endeavoured to convert him into a Dog: So when a Monarchy is once bitten to the quick, by those Democraticall writers, that continually snarl at that estate; it wants nothing more than a strong Monarch, which nevertheless out of a certain Tyrannophobia, or fear of being strongPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


<Rebellion, a condition of war
>because the nature of this offence, consists in renouncing of subjection; which is a relapse into the condition of war, commonly called Rebellion; and they that so offend, suffer not as Subjects, but as Enemies. For Rebellion, is but war renewed.

<Hurt To Revolted Subjects Is Done By Right Of War, Not By Way Of Punishment

>Lastly, Harme inflicted upon one that is a declared enemy, fals not under the name of Punishment: Because seeing they were either never subject to the Law, and therefore cannot transgresse it; or having been subject to it, and professing to be no longer so, by consequence deny they can transgresse it, all the Harmes that can be done them, must be taken as acts of Hostility. But in declared Hostility, all infliction of evill is lawfull. From whence it followeth, that if a subject shall by fact, or word, wittingly, and deliberatly deny the authority of the Representative of the Common-wealth, (whatsoever penalty hath been formerly ordained for Treason,) he may lawfully be made to suffer whatsoever the Representative will: For in denying subjection, he denyes such Punishment as by the Law hath been ordained; and therefore suffers as an enemy of the Common-wealth; that is, according to the will of the Representative. For the Punishments set down in the Law, are to Subjects, not to Enemies; such as are they, that having been by their own act Subjects, deliberately revolting, deny the Soveraign Power.

<The Punishment Of Innocent Subjects Is Contrary To The Law Of Nature

>All Punishments of Innocent subjects, be they great or little, are against the Law of Nature; For Punishment is only of Transgression of the Law, and therefore there can be no Punishment of the Innocent. It is therefore a violation, First, of that Law of Nature, which forbiddeth all men, in their Revenges, to look at any thing but some future good: For there can arrive no good to the Common-wealth, by Punishing the Innocent. Secondly, of that, which forbiddeth Ingratitude: For seeing all Soveraign Power, is originally given by the consent of every one of the Subjects, to the end they should as long as they are obedient, be protected thereby; the Punishment of the Innocent, is aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


Graceposter doesn't want rule by a priestly clique supported by metaphysics or ultraclericalism–but something akin DPRK-style cult of personality and particularly a strong emphasis on one ruler–wants ultraroyalism more.
It isn't that complicated, but always falls on deaf ears anyways.
It is an extremely niche, acquired taste most don't get or see any appeal to, so… I can't speak much for anyone else, let alone the other e-monarchists.
TBH, DPRK is closest to that kind of sentiment.


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What Graceposter hates
>promoting other, more mainstream e-monarchist's brand like Lavader, Moldbug, Carlsbad/"Von Haller", etc, over my turf
>Includes other mainstream brands like JRR Tolkien "libertarian anarcho-monarchism" or perennielists like Evola or Guenon or any NRx blogspheres that are popular
>especially as if they know more or are better apt to discuss monarchy than what I serve up here
>Taking these other brands and rolling over my style with them, as if I must conform to them, etc
>being rebuffed with integralism or any vague esotericism as opposed to my own project
>posting Grace with advocacy of ceremonial monarchy or plain esotericism (graceposter doesn't want any esoteric bro NRx generic e-trad stuff, but a much stronger emphasis on absolute monarchy & familialism therein – Graceposter hates it because Graceposter resents NRx clout & metaphysicians stealing away clout away from it & feels that steals my thunder and those rightwingers lack enthusiasm for what I want).
>strong appeals to decentralization in juxtaposition to monarchy (←- Is a very irritable spot since I have a lot of resentment built up towards Tocquevillism and other ancapy monarchists and neofeudalist monarchists on this issue)


>>777768
ok, I'm not defending democracy, but still don't see how monarchy is any better.
Also why doesn't Grace have cat ears like all the others


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If people aren't for the Alexandrian Model, don't want a leader who both reigns and governs with majesty, aren't for absolute monarchy but normalfag democracyslop, etc, I really cannot relate. That is haram here.
Gracefag is -not- content with having multi-party democracy with the mere title of a king like Louis XIV says, but one-party corporatism/democratic centralism is an improvement… but if there isn't any longing to have a leader who actually leads, then it is outside the spirit of this thread.


….and I wish you a revolutionary birthday, dear Grace-poster <3


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may u continue being VERY COOL for the rest of ur life!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!??!!?!??!??!?!


youre my favorite imageboard microcelebrity grace poster
i think about you sexually
happy birthday ^_^


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Graceposter birthday


Plato Republic Book 5:
>This, then, Glaucon, is the manner of the community of wives and children among the guardians. That it is consistent with the rest of our polity and by far the best way is the next point that we must get confirmed by the argument. Is not that so?” “It is, indeed,” he said. “Is not the logical first step towards such an agreement to ask ourselves what we could name as the greatest good for the constitution of a state and the proper aim of a lawgiver in his legislation, and what would be the greatest evil, and then to consider whether the proposals we have just set forth fit into the footprints of the good and do not suit those of the evil?” “By all means,” he said.

>“Do we know of any greater evil for a state than the thing that divides it and makes it many instead of one, or a greater good than that which binds it together and makes it one?”


>“We do not.”


>“Is not, then, the community of pleasure and pain the tie that binds, when, so far as may be, all the citizens rejoice and grieve alike at the same births and deaths?”


>“But the individualization of these feelings is a dissolvent, when some grieve exceedingly and others rejoice at the same happenings to the city and its inhabitants?” “Of course.” “And the chief cause of this is when the citizens do not utter in unison such words as ‘mine’ and ‘not mine,’ and similarly with regard to the word ‘alien’?


>“Precisely so.”


>“That city, then, is best ordered in which the greatest number use the expression ‘mine’ and ‘not mine’ of the same things in the same way.”


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Graceposter's Political Ideology
I'm coining a term for my ideology of Monarchy:
Monarchia Natio Coloniae / Dynastic Patriotism.
Meaning, the cultivation of a people with Monarchy (to make them more united & as a greater family).
(I might have butchered the Latin, but it is the thought that counts).
That is my political ideology.
When I say colony in Monarchia Natio Coloniae my intent is a cultivation of politics, to make a people & politics a colony of monarchy. Not colony in the context of foreign lands, but the establishment of politics from Monarchy.
This way, there is a dynastic patriotism.
My two inspirations are Hobbes' Leviathan and North Korea Juche.


OP Profile:
>OP?
OP is a monarchist on leftypol.org.

>What kind of Monarchist is Graceposter?

A modern day absolute monarchist & invested in the late 1500s & 1600s kind of absolutism, hereditary rule / dynasties, & the pre-eminent notion of monarchy as opposed to mixed constitutionalism / limited or mixed monarchy, formally called constitutional monarchy & constitutional monarchism.

My notion of monarchy is not really traditional medievalist Christian royal monarchy, but more like Alexandrian model, Absolutism, State Shinto/North Korea/hereditary dictatorship–a hereditary monarchy with a kind of familialism/dynastic patriotism like North Korea somewhat has (but not completely).
Corgism:
>Politics as a colony of an absolute monarchy and people form a great family; a cult of personality for a community of pleasures & pains.

My notion of monarchy is like a singer on the stage, sings a life into people–if I had to sum up the way I think, and why I demand one singer, one teacher–is because I want the most direct attention drawn to a cult of personality to breathe a soul into people.
Adding more singers–like the saying "Too many cooks spoil the broth" is exactly the undertone of how I see it and why I want one monarch alone to sing.
Too many cooks risks replicating the condition of a people that a singer is there to resolve – the masses without a singer are like an amorphous blob, with no identity, no culture, no frame of mind, etc.
A singer on a stage makes a community of pleasures and pains that Plato lauds.
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graceposter was right about everything