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38 results in /siberia/ - Off-topic Anonymous 23-08-26 19:06:05 No. 817931
>>817584 The true & honest gracepill isn't just wanting any aristocrat or rich bitch, but in particular one very special queen regnant or empress or dictatrix to be your goddess and mommydom you.
Otherwise it is just any other tradslop or your generic monarchist slop and not uniquely gracepilled.
Anonymous 22-08-26 20:59:33 No. 817623
>>817584 Grace would treat you like a dog.
Anonymous 22-08-26 20:14:36 No. 817584
yes yes we all want grace chan that's why she has had a thread for 6 years on here
Anonymous 10-08-26 23:02:27 No. 813263
>>813259 y r u being mean to Grace poster
>>813244 That's a very interesting point. Liberal democracies probably aren't any better than monarchies on average… However, I don't think this is an argument in favor of monarchies, but against liberal democracies. I think that a socialist monarchy would be less likely to be a good system to live under than a democratic socialist government, by virtue of people theoretically being able to voot in their best interest.
And have you ever thought about becoming a youtuber or some kind of influencer? You seem to have the gift of yapping and you seem to be knowledgeable.
>>813258 Wait, u'r not a leftist? I thought you were the socialist kind of monarchist. Do you believe in market economies?
Anonymous 10-08-26 10:18:32 No. 813071
>>812922 grace poster, who do you think should be queen/king in real life?????? And what do u think about Kim Jong Un
>>812929 i will kill you with my bare hands in roblox
>>813045 me too
Anonymous 06-08-26 23:51:28 No. 812233
Requesting art of genderbent!Alunya boning genderbent!Grace
Anonymous 05-08-26 16:02:04 No. 811882
>>811880 Take the gracefag with you
Anonymous 05-08-26 13:33:39 No. 811848
Someone needs to make an AI cast on Tiktok with Alunya asking Grace if she did her chores.
Anonymous 26-07-26 18:35:56 No. 808736
>>808728 Well, I’ve heard that for his how’s, he would provoke his guests (either skipping them drugs or something) to make them look as disgraceful as possible so that his critique would be justified.
So yea I think he would, but only behind closed doors
Anonymous 13-07-26 14:49:05 No. 804829
>>803575 >>803577 >>803589 Could you make a drawing of Grace getting brutally rape-tortured and humiliated in public for being a monarchist piece of shit, pretty please?
Anonymous 10-07-26 06:30:28 No. 803986
Which thread had the Grace lewds? I need to fap.
Anonymous 26-06-26 23:41:19 No. 799749
Hobbes' Behemoth recounts the history and causes of the English Civil Wars.
He starts BEHEMOTH (the anti-Leviathan) in recounting the factions involved.
Hobbes' pessimism is my pessimism.
The seducers were of diverse sorts… 1st faction: The Presbyterians >One sort were ministers; ministers, as they called themselves, of Christ; and sometimes, in their sermons to the people, God's ambassadors; pretending to have a right from God to govern every one his parish, and their assembly the whole nation. 2nd faction: The Papists / Catholics >Secondly, there were a very great number, though not comparable to the other, which notwithstanding that the Pope's power in England, both temporal and ecclesiastical, had been by Act of Parliament abolished, did still retain a belief that we ought to be governed by the Pope, whom they pretended to be the vicar of Christ, and, in the right of Christ, to be the governor of all Christian people. And these were known by the name of Papists; as the ministers I mentioned before, were commonly called Presbyterians. 3rd faction: Fifth monarchy men & other low church protestants >Thirdly, there were not a few, who in the beginning of the troubles were not only discovered, but shortly after declared themselves for a liberty in religion, and those of different opinions one from another. Some of them because they would have all congregations free and independent upon one another, were called Independents. Others that held baptism to infants, and such understood not into what they are baptized, to be ineffectual, were called therefore Anabaptists. Others that held that Christ's kingdom was at this time to begin upon the earth, were called Fifth-monarchy-men; besides diverse other sects, as Quakers, Adamites, etc, whose names and peculiar doctrines I do not well remember. And these were the enemies which arose against his Majesty from the private interpretation of the Scripture, exposed to every man's scanning in his mother-tongue. 4th faction: The Intellectuals / School-men / Educated Elite & Parliamentarians Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 26-06-26 15:04:49 No. 799535
The Pre-eminence of King Charles II: >His comely presence, meekness, majesty, >Do Adamantine lustre far out-vie; >If to be highly born it is great bliss, >What Prince for Birth may you compare with his? …
>Behold your King then thousands more tall >In Grace, Power, Virtues, higher than you all >When Kingship, Persons, Virtues thus you see >All meet in one, happy's that Monarchy >Not Solomon in Glory may compare - P. Dormer's Monarchia Triumphans, 1666. THE GREAT FOUNDER / PRE-EMINENT MONARCHY As explained by Aristotle in Politics Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 26-06-26 14:54:46 No. 799533
<The Fundamental Rights of Sovereignty, according to Thomas Hobbes >1. The Subjects Cannot Change The Form Of Government (The form of Government is a fundamental law) >2. Soveraigne Power Cannot Be Forfeited >3. No Man Can Without Injustice Protest Against The Institution Of The Soveraigne Declared By The Major Part. >4. The Soveraigns Actions Cannot Be Justly Accused By The Subject >5. What Soever The Soveraigne Doth, Is Unpunishable By The Subject >6. The Soveraigne Is Judge Of What Is Necessary For The Peace And Defence Of His Subjects (And Judge Of What Doctrines Are Fit To Be Taught Them) >7. The Right of making Rules, whereby the Subject may every man know what is so his owne, as no other Subject can without injustice take it from him >8. To Him Also Belongeth The Right Of All Judicature And Decision Of Controversies: >9. And Of Making War, And Peace, As He Shall Think Best: >10. And Of Choosing All Counsellours, And Ministers, Both Of Peace, And Warre: >11. And Of Rewarding, And Punishing, And That (Where No Former Law hath Determined The Measure Of It) Arbitrary: >12. And Of Honour And Order And finally, Thomas Hobbes adds, with his 12 marks of Sovereignty (as Jean Bodin would have it):
<These Rights Are Indivisible Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 28-05-26 12:19:00 No. 787356
Jean Bodin on Aristotle & Monarchy Continued >For even Aristotle himself is of opinion, That Monarchs should be created by election, calling the people barbarous, which have their Kings by right of succession. And for which cause he deemed the Carthaginians more happy than the Lacedemonians, for that these had their Kings by succession from the fathers to the the sons in the stock and line of Hercules, whereas the others still had them by election and choice. But so he might call the Assyrians barbarous, the Medes, the Persians, the Egyptians, the people of Asia, the Parthians, the Armenians, the Indians, the Africans, the Turks, the Tartars, the Arabians, the Muscovites, the Celts, the Englishmen, the Scots, the Frenchmen, the Spaniards, the Peruvians, the Numidians the Ethiopians; and an infinite number of other people, who still have, and always before had, their Kings by right of succession. Yea and we find in Greece (the country of Aristotle himself) that the Athenians, the Lacedemonians, Sicyonians, the Corinthians, the Thebans, the Epirots, the Macedonians, had more than by the space of six hundred years, had their Kings by right of lawful succession, before that ambition had blinded them to change their Monarchies into Democracies and Aristocracies. Which had likewise taken place in Italy also, whereas the Hetruscians and Latins for many worlds of years had their Kings still descending from the fathers to the sons. <Now if so many people and nations were all barbarous, where then should humanity and civility have place? It should be only in Poland, in Denmark, and in Sweden; for that almost these people alone have their Kings by election: and yet of them none, but such as were themselves also royally descended. >Cicero says, humanity and courtesy to have taken beginning in the lesser Asia, and from thence to have been divided unto all the other parts of the world: and yet for all that the people of Asia had no other kings, but by succession from the father to the son, or some other the nearest of kin. >And of all the ancient kings of Greece, we find none but Timondas, who was chosen King of Corinth, and Pittacus of Nigropont. And at such time as the royal name and line sailed, oftentimes the strongest or the mightest carried it away as it chanced after the death of Alexander thePost too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 25-05-26 09:28:07 No. 786332
I saw a Grace picture on fedi
Anonymous 06-05-26 06:25:58 No. 779977
>>779821 Mods bow to Grace-poster
Anonymous 04-05-26 13:59:43 No. 779255
Hobbes / Greeks & Romans, the Universities, Schoolmen, & Parliament Men >Fourthly, there were an exceeding great number of men of the better sort, that had been so educated, as that in their youth having read the books written by famous men of the ancient Grecian and Roman commonwealths concerning their polity and great actions; in which books the popular government was extolled by that glorious name of Liberty, and monarchy disgraced by that name of Tyranny; they became thereby in love with their forms of government. And out of these men were chosen the greatest part of the House of Commons, or if they were not the greatest part, yet by advantage of their eloquence, were always able to sway the rest, especially the great haranguers, and such as pretended to learning. For who can be a good subject in a Monarchy… <For who can be a good subject in a Monarchy, whose principles are taken from the enemies of Monarchy, such as were Cicero, Seneca, Cato, and other politicians of Rome, and Aristotle of Athens, who seldom spake of Kings but as of wolves and other ravenous beasts? >You may perhaps think a man has need of nothing else but to know the duty he owes his governor, and what right he has to order him, but a good natural wit; but it is otherwise. For it is a science, and built upon sure and clear principles, and to be learned by deep and careful study, or from masters that have deeply studied it. And who was there in the Parliament or in the nation, that could find out those evident principles, and derive from them the necessary rules of justice, and the necessary connection of justice and peace? The people have one day in seven the leisure to hear instruction, and there are ministers appointed to teach them their duty. >But how have those ministers performed their office? A great part of them, namely, the Presbyterian ministers, throughout the whole war, instigated the people against the King; so did also the Independents and other fanatic ministers. The rest, contented with their livings, preached in their parishes points of controversy, to religion impertinent, but to the breach of charity among themselves very effectual; or else eloquent things, which the people either understood not, or thouPost too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 04-05-26 13:57:29 No. 779254
<Thomas Hobbes on monarchomachists & pro-regicides >From the reading, I say, of such books, men have undertaken to kill their Kings, because the Greek and Latin writers, in their books, and discourses of Policy, make it lawfull, and laudable, for any man so to do; provided before he do it, he call him Tyrant. For they say not Regicide, that is, killing of a King, but Tyrannicide, that is, killing of a Tyrant is lawfull. <Hobbes / From the same books (like Aristotle's Politics), they think in Democracies they are all freemen, but under Monarchies, all slaves >From the same books, they that live under a Monarch conceive an opinion, that the Subjects in a Popular Common-wealth enjoy Liberty; but that in a Monarchy they are all Slaves. I say, they that live under a Monarchy conceive such an opinion; not they that live under a Popular Government; for they find no such matter. <Anti-Monarchy writers, they're like Rabid Dogs <Like rabid dogs won't drink water & have a rabid hydrophobia, rabid democratical writers have a rabid tyrannophobia; <A monarchy bitten by rabid, snarling democratical writers wants nothing more than a strong, mean Monarch <Once there is that Strong Monarch, it is a self-fulfilling prophesy & they abhor their Tyrant >In sum, I cannot imagine, how anything can be more prejudicial to a Monarchy, than the allowing of such books to be publicly read, without present applying such correctives of discreet Masters, as are fit to take away their Venom; Which Venom I will not doubt to compare to the biting of a mad Dog, which is a disease the Physicians call Hydrophobia, or Fear Of Water. For as he that is so bitten, has a continual torment of thirst, and yet abhors water; and is in such an estate, as if the poison endeavoured to convert him into a Dog: So when a Monarchy is once bitten to the quick, by those Democraticall writers, that continually snarl at that estate; it wants nothing more than a strong Monarch, which nevertheless out of a certain Tyrannophobia, or fear of being strong Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 03-05-26 15:14:17 No. 779043
<Rebellion, a condition of war >because the nature of this offence, consists in renouncing of subjection; which is a relapse into the condition of war, commonly called Rebellion; and they that so offend, suffer not as Subjects, but as Enemies. For Rebellion, is but war renewed. <Hurt To Revolted Subjects Is Done By Right Of War, Not By Way Of Punishment >Lastly, Harme inflicted upon one that is a declared enemy, fals not under the name of Punishment: Because seeing they were either never subject to the Law, and therefore cannot transgresse it; or having been subject to it, and professing to be no longer so, by consequence deny they can transgresse it, all the Harmes that can be done them, must be taken as acts of Hostility. But in declared Hostility, all infliction of evill is lawfull. From whence it followeth, that if a subject shall by fact, or word, wittingly, and deliberatly deny the authority of the Representative of the Common-wealth, (whatsoever penalty hath been formerly ordained for Treason,) he may lawfully be made to suffer whatsoever the Representative will: For in denying subjection, he denyes such Punishment as by the Law hath been ordained; and therefore suffers as an enemy of the Common-wealth; that is, according to the will of the Representative. For the Punishments set down in the Law, are to Subjects, not to Enemies; such as are they, that having been by their own act Subjects, deliberately revolting, deny the Soveraign Power. <The Punishment Of Innocent Subjects Is Contrary To The Law Of Nature >All Punishments of Innocent subjects, be they great or little, are against the Law of Nature; For Punishment is only of Transgression of the Law, and therefore there can be no Punishment of the Innocent. It is therefore a violation, First, of that Law of Nature, which forbiddeth all men, in their Revenges, to look at any thing but some future good: For there can arrive no good to the Common-wealth, by Punishing the Innocent. Secondly, of that, which forbiddeth Ingratitude: For seeing all Soveraign Power, is originally given by the consent of every one of the Subjects, to the end they should as long as they are obedient, be protected thereby; the Punishment of the Innocent, is a Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 29-04-26 17:51:53 No. 777809
>>777768 ok, I'm not defending democracy, but still don't see how monarchy is any better.
Also why doesn't Grace have cat ears like all the others
schizonymous 28-04-26 19:11:07 No. 777529
….and I wish you a revolutionary birthday, dear Grace-poster <3
Anonymous 28-04-26 12:18:29 No. 777445
Plato Republic Book 5: >This, then, Glaucon, is the manner of the community of wives and children among the guardians. That it is consistent with the rest of our polity and by far the best way is the next point that we must get confirmed by the argument. Is not that so?” “It is, indeed,” he said. “Is not the logical first step towards such an agreement to ask ourselves what we could name as the greatest good for the constitution of a state and the proper aim of a lawgiver in his legislation, and what would be the greatest evil, and then to consider whether the proposals we have just set forth fit into the footprints of the good and do not suit those of the evil?” “By all means,” he said. >“Do we know of any greater evil for a state than the thing that divides it and makes it many instead of one, or a greater good than that which binds it together and makes it one?” >“We do not.” >“Is not, then, the community of pleasure and pain the tie that binds, when, so far as may be, all the citizens rejoice and grieve alike at the same births and deaths?” >“But the individualization of these feelings is a dissolvent, when some grieve exceedingly and others rejoice at the same happenings to the city and its inhabitants?” “Of course.” “And the chief cause of this is when the citizens do not utter in unison such words as ‘mine’ and ‘not mine,’ and similarly with regard to the word ‘alien’? >“Precisely so.” >“That city, then, is best ordered in which the greatest number use the expression ‘mine’ and ‘not mine’ of the same things in the same way.”Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 28-04-26 12:04:08 No. 777431
OP Profile:
>OP? OP is a monarchist on leftypol.org.
>What kind of Monarchist is Graceposter?A modern day absolute monarchist & invested in the late 1500s & 1600s kind of absolutism, hereditary rule / dynasties, & the pre-eminent notion of monarchy as opposed to mixed constitutionalism / limited or mixed monarchy, formally called constitutional monarchy & constitutional monarchism.
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My notion of monarchy is not really traditional medievalist Christian royal monarchy, but more like Alexandrian model, Absolutism, State Shinto/North Korea/hereditary dictatorship–a hereditary monarchy with a kind of familialism/dynastic patriotism like North Korea somewhat has (but not completely).
Corgism:
>Politics as a colony of an absolute monarchy and people form a great family; a cult of personality for a community of pleasures & pains. …
My notion of monarchy is like a singer on the stage, sings a life into people–if I had to sum up the way I think, and why I demand one singer, one teacher–is because I want the most direct attention drawn to a cult of personality to breathe a soul into people.
Adding more singers–like the saying "Too many cooks spoil the broth" is exactly the undertone of how I see it and why I want one monarch alone to sing.
Too many cooks risks replicating the condition of a people that a singer is there to resolve – the masses without a singer are like an amorphous blob, with no identity, no culture, no frame of mind, etc.
A singer on a stage makes a community of pleasures and pains that Plato lauds.
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