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Welcome to /dead/, the endless magical nihilist gulag. This is not 8/grim/, but it is the continuation 8/grim/. Think of it as partly an /r9k/ for anti-capitalists, partly /dprk/ with skeltals, and otherwise whatever you make of it.

Now in amazing Techni-nocolors!

Rules:
>1. Global rules apply
<2. Please keep /r9k/-tier & tfw no gf shitposts to one thread. Capitalism is only one of the many, many reasons why you don't have a gf.
>3. Meta posts belong in this thread
<4. This is a #SAFE space_ for anarkiddies and nihilists; cheka yr authoritarian privilege fam
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how do i fix the css of this fucking board it wont work and this all black shit is so fucking annoying

 

>>4409
Select theme, bottom right.



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need

 

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>>5438
whta mod?

 

>>5438
He looks so old. The real Stirner died at 50 of a bug bite

 

>>5439
no clue, i copy pasted from here
>>>/games/35828



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Genuine question from a none communist/anarchist.
first, I sympathaise with those two ideas, I really do. I have a burning passionate hatred for all the negative aspects of humanity, from greed to sadism.
I'm not very well read on anarchism or communism (the likes of marx and even hegel never interested me), so I'm mostly going by personal observation. from what I understand communists believe that money (capitalism) corrupts the human being and that by removing the cultural meme of capitalism, communism would florish. at least in simple terms, correct?

whenever I engage in chatter about this topic, eventually it comes down to human nature. almost all far leftists believe some form of the blank-slate. I don't. I never understood why this idea is taken seriously at all. isn't it obvious that a lot of human bias is hardwired into us from birth rather than influnced by enviornent?
especially the more basal desires and behaviours like greed? do you really believe that money is what corrupts people rather than that they're born greedy? and if you're a communist/anarchist that doesn't blieve in the blankslate, how do justify what you believe?
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>>5166
I doubt OP is still reading this.

 

>>5156
>they're also born generous and altruistic
This is no better than saying people are born greedy. At least the Marxists admit that our behavior is shaped by the social environment we are in, even though they often cling to morality just as much as the next guy.

 

>>5168
The point is that 'human nature' includes the possibility for a wide spectrum of contradictory traits.

 

>>5169
"Human nature" is a term made up by philosophers who do not actually know how real human beings work. These talks about the human nature are pointless. The max Aristotle was able to discern was "Humans are capable of reason." Which is, like, almost nothing. And that still does not include people with intellectual disabilities, even though it is true otherwise.

Altruism, like greed, is nurtured through society, there is nothing "innate" about greed or altruism other than some basic psychological mechanisms that give rise to hoarding or generosity, which by themselves are not greed and altruism. Say, you're hungry. And you are given lots of food. You overeat a little. Then you get used to the constant flow of dopamine you get from eating food. And that's how you become glottonous. Glottony is the result of lots of internal and external factors, and saying that glottony is innate is confusing cause and effect and does not take into the account the environment a person is raised in.

 

>not well read
apparent
>money(capitalism)
no, capitalism is not when moeny. Read Capital. Money and Capital both predate Capitalism.



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Is the communist dream dead? Young people are turning more and more reactionary and even the "leftist" ones would rather want a liberal capitalist welfare state than actual communism. Back then there was the east to look at for communism. To build hope. Now 95% of the world is capitalist with no signs of stopping until the world is destroyed. Technology has gotten better to control the oppostion and dictate the narrative. Something as shameless as a genocide is everywhere on the news and the people mostly shrug their shoulders.
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>>5460
The mods keep moving shitass threads here.

 

>>5461
>The mods keep moving shitass threads here
Wtf, mods? You have some resentment towards this board or something?

 

>Is the communist dream dead?
has it ever existed even?

 

>>5463
uuga booga

 

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>>5460
>is the communist dream /dead/???
>wtf why did i get moved to /dead/? was it it something i said?



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So you think you are a worthless NEET? Let's see what uncle Ted has to say:
>The people whose behavior is fairly well under the control of the system are those of the type that might be called “bourgeois.” But there are growing numbers of people who in one way or another are rebels against the system: welfare leeches, youth gangs, cultists, satanists, Nazis, radical environmentalists, militia-men, etc.

NEETs are rebelling against the system! We are part of the rebellion! Ted is based!!!
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/fc-industrial-society-and-its-future
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The advertisement/marketing industry. Why do marxists love it? Because it implants artificial needs into the brains of the people, it is necessary to cultivate the consoomer cattle. Braindead consoomers are necessary to facilitate endless economic growth and therefore technological progress. As technology is progressing, human autonomy is dissipating. The thing is, marxists believe this is good. You vill live in zhe pod and you vill like it. Fully automated luxury communism. Or as Kaczynski said: "These engineered human beings may be happy in such a society, but they most certainly will not be free. They will have been reduced to the status of domestic animals."

 

Ted on Marx:

>Many writers, beginning with Karl Marx, have noted the fundamental importance of technology in determining the course of society’s development. In effect, they have recognized that it is technology that rules society, not the other way around.


https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-forward-to-technological-slavery

 

>>5422
That is right, just like bureaucracy
"The bureaucracy is a circle from which no one can escape. Its hierarchy is a hierarchy of knowledge."
And
"Technology discloses man's mode of dealing with Nature, the process of production by which he sustains his life, and thereby also lays bare the mode of formation of his social relations, and of the mental conceptions that flow from them."

 

Ok, here is my take on Ted K. :
His ideology and his actions are just his personal way to cope with existence. You read it in his manifesto, he dedicated an entire section to "surrogate activities". In his view, these activities are fake and therefore bad. But since there is no truth and no meaning in existence anyway, there can't be fake activities. ANY KIND of activity is a surrogate activity. So no matter what you do, it doesn't matter in the end. You will die and the universe will also die someday. He did the same thing we all do: He created his ideology purely out of psychological needs in order to cope with existence! Nihilism says: There is no goal. Many people don't want to accept this and so they just create their own goals/meaning. For some people it is "god", for others "socialism", "community" etc. and for Ted K, he created his primitivist ideology. Or in other words:
Pomni: So, our entire existence here is just…LARPing?
Nietzsche (chad face): Yes.

 

based on what?



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ITT: post PRAXIS
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What direct action can be done from the comfort of my home? I can't go out because of the virus.

 

>>940
learn programming and create viruses that attack the digital communication of capitalist corporations and bourgeoi states

 


 

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hehe ha

 

>>735
Big pp.



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I think the left is too nice, and doesn't feature enough comic sadism and spite.
I genuinely have a deep desire to be hurt and controlled, and to hurt and control others.
I think such self-defeating desires are as legitimate as any others, and cannot be reduced to madness or ideology.
I do think I should probably just pay for a dom when I save up enough neetbux.
Or maybe ERP online.
But I'm kind of a coward though.
Anyhow, that's the biggest reason why I don't like the left.
>inb4 but if you don't like the left then why are you a leftist
Easy, I don't like myself either.
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>>5212
It's not really about ideology, it's about the irrational drive to suffer.

 

>>5213
>It's not really about ideology, it's about the irrational drive to suffer.
Well, I technically have nothing against it, but as Stirner said, by embracing one drive you repress many others. Embracing suffering isn't embracing the totality of life.

 

holy fuck put /dead/ back in the crypt agin and get it off the overboard. fucking hell.

 

>>5430
This thread was moved here from /leftypol/. It's an attempt by the mods to destroy /dead/.

 

>>5432
What is /dead/ may never die



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So now that the 'socialism' fad is petering out, what will be the next outsider ideology to that captures the attention of disaffected western youth? Fifteen years ago it was 'libertarianism,' and fifteen years before that it was alter-globalization and anti-establishment anarchism.

What will the zoomers and their progeny believe in? Esoteric fascism, a resurgent Kaczynski-inspired primitivism, or some other as yet unimaginable set of principles?
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>>4895
>What will the zoomers and their progeny believe in?
It sure isn't post-left anarchism.

The zoom-zooms are only starting to form their ideas. I think fourth-wave feminism and alt-rightism still have some time to grow before they reach a boiling point. Until then I don't see the zoomers' beliefs to drastically change. They pretty much feed into each other, with one group standing for what the other one opposes. The centrists are too apathetic to really be a proper resistance to these two belief systems so maybe dirtbag leftism will become more popular. Or NazBols perhaps? Yeah, NazBolism is such a meme these days, zoomers like memes.

Obviously post-leftism is the only reasonable alternative to this culture war nonsense but not like the majority of people posesses critical thinking skills. It's all just an overreaction to an overreaction to an overreaction.

 

>>4895
The new ideology for the kiddos is CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME WATCH WATCH WATCH CONSUME NICOTINE PRODUCTS WATCH WATCH WATCH
Also probably Neo-Nazism

 

>>5178
>>5415
>>4895
>Failed adults trying to "figure out" the youth.


Yall are too obsessed with generational strawmen

 

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Probably some even more fucked up version of Eurasianism

 

>>5418
Well, if Breadtube will start openly supporting neoliberalism there's not that much competition tbh.



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Communism is dead and died in 1922. The USSR basically became another imperialist bloc and then died, there is no relevant Marxist power on Earth, and the revolution hasn't happened after +150 years. Trade unions are pretty dead (not that they're progressive in the first world) and people join them for workers' rights without caring about internationalism or communism at all or because the industry itself is already unionised; hustle culture, part-time jobs, reverse army of labour, etc, means it's harder to unionise jobs. There isn't a righteous bloc between the first world or third world/BRICS/China, it's which favelas and former colonies are exploited by economic imbalance, colonial infrastructure, and the USD. I'm not sure how unequal exchange could be stopped without communism and it seems like a form of intersectionality so I'm not going to talk about it too much.

I feel like most people here have tacitly accepted that communism is dead and it's just band kids, or intellectuals, or nostalgia-boos. Endlessly regurgitating the same talking points and having literal near-zero impact. It's a glorified history club with some "happenings" about sectarian moralist garbage. Can anyone agree what communism is or what they want after le revolution? And why anyone would listen to Marx' and Bukharin's schizo-ramblings from over a century ago instead of doing something immediately useful like studying for something, or jerking off and playing video-games. I don't think you could scientifically prove Marx and Stirner (lol) btfod him anyways. Communists or Anarchists can't even take over a small island or a city or something. How many people have read Marx in full and how would you distil it without turning it into dogma or agitprop.

Anybody who is sort of successful and is absorbed by western media (which is 90% of the world) will be a liberal by default. Then alt-right/neo-nazis or religion captures other people because they're provocative and lean on perceived real life experiences and spirituality. There is no logistical reason why you couldn't implement communism tomorrow if you wiped every other ideology off the Earth, it's that aesthetics matter way more than "materialism" (Yes, I'm using the human nature argument.)

My point is I'm bored and I don't have anything to do or any meaning in my life.
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>>5083
It definitely happens. There's a lot of horror stories about people being locked in for years.

 

>>5084
Not for just telling your doctor you're depressed lol. If you say you're about to kill yourself or someone else then maybe but Reagan closed most of the asylums years ago.

 

>>5084
>There's a lot of horror stories about people being locked in for years.

Like the joker!

 

>>5079
>>5046
>>5047
>>5053
>>5054
>>5059


OP you are right.
Politics is just lazy intellectual exercises.
A moral convenienxe by adults used for appearing "profound"

 

>>5051
>Most of the "socialist young people" are really just liberals mad because their wages are being depressed
Well why is that a problem? Why do they need to believe in some metaphysical cause of communism when their egoist motivation is already at odds with capitalism?



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Is uzumaki post-left?
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>>5131
>post-leftism is when cyber-nihilism
Zoom-zooms not bothering to read McQuinn or Landstreicher, kek.

 


 

>>5174
>guilt by association
Oh, great, another post-leftist getting cancelled. Sure never happened before.

I'm not saying it's impossible for him to do it but really. Post-leftists are despised not just by conservatives but by progressives too. And even if Wolfi did justify child molestation (from what I heard from others it was a misunderstanding) does it really devalue what he wrote? Such a hypocritical thinking: appreciating the author's work but doing a complete 180 when they do something you don't like.

Also, it's not the first controversial thing Stirnerites have said, it kinda comes with the ideology. Walker said ethnic violence makes perfect sense and Tucker said it's okay for a mother to throw her baby into the fire. The thing is, Stirnerites do not "justify" anything, they simply say that something makes sense in a certain context. Walker didn't say the racist workers weren't spooked and Tucker didn't say that you should throw a baby into the fire. But the context is once again lost on other people because their brains are wired differently.

http://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/desolationpomo-how-to-argue-with-moral-nihilists-without-strawmanning-more-than-a-cornfield-101

 

>>5176 (me)
Now that I think about it, we're all Richard Stallman: we all say outrageous shit and then people misinterpret what we say as something way more disturbing to them than it really is. Stirnerites are particularly prone to this 'cause they can be real edgelords. The real counter-force to 4chan.

 

>is pop culture media le funny ideology????????
desperate for threads arent we



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