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>>2543514
Comrades, any guides to help organize a strike?

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>>2584159
> "Capitalist," as used against Jay-Z, is a slur used by working oppressors and exploiters against barriers to neocolonial accumulation
lol, lmfao

>>2584157
Neither party gets anything for their support and they never will. The DSA is supposed to do what's called a dirty break where they use the Democrats resources and clout to get elected then break with the party and become independent candidates, but they don't even do that. Rather they just funnel votes and support into a far right imperialist party for no benefit at all.

The "C"PUSA doesn't even pretend to do that, they just funnel their support into a far right imperialist party which is guilty of multiple genocides and then wonder why they're completely irrelevant and dead.

I hate the CPUSA more than any party in America and it's not just because CPUSAnon is a member. They are wreckers who exist to funnel the energy of the left into imperialism, which they seek to use as a tool to enrich the American homeland at the expense of everyone else on earth. They know this, they understand it and they still support it even after decades of it doing nothing but killing the left. They are an anti-communist party that should be physically liquidated by any means necessary.

>>2584165
>I hate the CPUSA more than any party in America and it's not just because CPUSAnon is a member. They are wreckers who exist to funnel the energy of the left into imperialism
I think you're right but you also seem really emotional and like your priorities are all over the place. They don't have shit for members, and their members are mostly old, right? They aren't even effective at their mission of funneling energy into imperialism, since there aren't that many people who join them in the first place. The vast majority of people, as you already point out, don't even bother joining the left-wreckers, they join the openly and explicitly imperialist DNC and GOP, either directly as registered party members, or indirectly, by staying "independent" but nevertheless only voting for DNC and GOP candidates. In your mind, the "C"PUSA is way more powerful than it is, because there's this supposed "revolutionary" energy that's getting "funneled" into imperialism, but the way you talk the other half of the time, there is no revolutionary energy to funnel into imperialism in the first place, because America Must Be Destroyed and so on and so forth.

>>2584004
Netanyahu and a lot of Zionists do this thing where they act so brazenly evil that if you were to tell someone who's unfamiliar with them what they did, they would assume you're being hysterical and making shit up.

>>2584147
deporting the afghan collaborators would be pretty funny tbh

>>2584063
>>2584120
fetterman 2 is optimistic, he's contesting a republican stalwart from the bush era. he's probably going to lose. in light of this there would be no material consequences to staying the course even if he's scuffed, in practice of course he's seriously alienating to idealists, and it doesn't make intuitive sense to run such an obvious wrecker.

the unions in maine like him. this is not unexpected because they represent automotive and shipyard workers primarily employed making military vehicles and boats. this is also why he's a china hawk and playing up his veterancy.

electoral politics, representative democracy, the party machine, everything is obviously rigged against the left. it's still a game that needs to be played, if only to dispel the illusion of consent. every seat denied to trump makes the road to dictatorship in 2029 a little bit harder.

>>2584134
the dems can either sell a clawback of trumpist policy or get owned by greens and PSL. the play for the repubs is to illegally run trump to galvanise the dem vote and block left populists from gaining a balance of power position that would quickly expose the defacto coalition of dems and repubs.

>>2584122
25!? That's still a child. Adolescence doesn't end till after 30.
>>2584139
Yes. Every week all men of the village shall spill their seed into the sacred trough and all fertile women shall bath in it. And in this way all the children begot shall belong in common to the village. Just as Prophet Marx and Saint Engles foresaw.

>>2584149
>Proof?
>Trust me bro
You can't even come up with evidence of child neglect. It's amazing how baseless is the hatred against pedo_troll. The left are infected by people such as you who would rather side with an unapologetic nazi who's known for saying unspeakable shit for ages. Acceleration at its best

>>2584139
This. All sex is rape. Communist society will do away with animalistic unproductivities.

/r/europe has gone full axis rehabilitation mode.

https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/comments/1paradn/russia_invaded_finland_starting_winter_war_on_nov/

top comment:

>It's almost like there's some pattern here…

Noticing "patterns" like it's some kind of revelation. This is a chuddish dog whistle.

>>2583996
Why was he such a chud?

>>2582657
this one is fucked up from so many angles, the laws are cooked:

> it's legal to enlist foreigners into regular armed forces
> it's legal to serve in foreign state militaries (in international law, your government can bar this)
> it's a legal grey area to serve in foreign paramilitaries (in international law, your government can bar this)
> it's a legal grey area to conscript foreigners (doesn't appear to be codified in international law, you need diplomatic support to fight it)
> it's not illegal to hire mercenaries
> mercenary work is not necessarily illegal, but mercs are not protected by the geneva convention
> it's illegal to compel mercenaries into combat
> it's illegal to use mercenaries to commit war crimes
> mercs foreign or local can be tried as criminals by either party (foreigners would need diplomatic support to contest it)
> it's legal to compel enlisted men into combat
> as an enlisted soldier or merc there's nothing protecting you from being used as cannon fodder

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>>2584094
>even the reddit brigade were motivated by idealism
Ideology. That ideology being - let's go kill subhuman Russians. Money is actually the more respectable motivator, which isn't saying much. Death to all NATO-aligned war tourists.

>>2583889
> obviously not
Then we’re in agreement. You overcome your biases in service of what you consider “true” which many people already do including people who don’t believe it’s possible to completely get rid of all biases.
> submitting to them
OK, but you already established you submit to the idea of an “objective truth” politically.

>>2581403
This is the most thought provoking philosophical post I've seen on any chan in over a decade. I think the answer to this lies in the discernment of every contribution to the question, and I only have a metaphysical one. Each of us has a different starting point, so we are prone to bias. Orientation provides context which aids navigation but its expression is often lost in translation, so objectivity lies in careful evaluation of circumstance, which itself is subject to bias. Objective truth in this case is discernment of lived experience. Some claim to know this from their understanding of God, but from my perspective these don't appear to understand from experience aside from academic endeavors. I say objective truth can always be sought but never fully possessed, and seeking it can help overcome various cognitive biases, but nobody can it hold all within themselves. How's that?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBmA705ULjc

>>2581403
IMO objective truth does exist but reality is so insanely complex that humans cannot fully grasp it. We just can't perceive or measure all of it. We can only get closer and closer to the truth. So accounting for biases and shortcomings in perception requires endless iteration and revision.

>>2583922
You must've missed out the time a 420Chan user recorded his own phone with the front camera without using a mirror, the phone saw itself.
https://leftypol.org//siberia/res/627790.html#q692312

>>2584132
Haha. Yeah I missed it,

>>2583863
Hmm you might be right

Actually hold on a damn second, aren't those "RTSG" accounts that spam Z and Infrared shit a Roblox thing? Russia really does need to crack down on this stuff.

>>2583829
IIRC Roblox had an actual pedo problem. And more predatory microtransaction schemes than usual. Or at least made worse because the audience is younger children.

Another case of the RF doing the right…ish thing for entirely wrong the reasons lel

Based RF acting as the vanguard against child exploitation.

>>2584038
>tripfag
>nothing to contribute to praxis thread

>>2584031
Some day-to-day union agitation during work hours for upcoming bargaining. Nothing much but it's the bread and butter.

I gib monies to various local orgs and read and write theory. that's about it

>>2584031
>actions
Activism, voluntarism, opportunism.

>>2584038
I have killed a gorillion bolice officers ::DDD

I post on leftypol and try not to pee myself in public

>>2582240
holy based

>>2582281
spain did not recognise israel until 1986

>>2581857
>Even if some leadership remains committed to Communism it really wouldn't be difficult for the membership to upend things and go full Fash.
oh god imagine if haz becomes the american ᴉuᴉlossnW.

>>2581857
>whereas the more "radical" and "working class" types (closer to Lumpen imo) wanted to beat people to death
I can't find it online, but there's a pic of a Falangist rally in Madrid in this book that was against the USSR in 1941 at the onset of the German invasion, and the front row of guys in it was a mix of slick-looking guys (nice suits, well cut), guys with paramilitary uniforms with straps across their chests, and then some absolute zoot-suit looking gangsters.

>I posted Haz mainly because I think he kind of already falls into this camp or, if not, risks falling into it more than most other "Communist" parties.
I mean just look at the aesthetics of the pic you posted. All black outfit. This weirdly ritualized / wedding ceremony stage dressing.

People say "saying aesthetics = politics" is a fascist thing. I don't agree with that exactly. It's more that fascists took ritualized political aesthetics to an extreme, although aesthetics are a constituent part of political ideologies and to understand them requires some attention to their aesthetic dimension.

>>2580651
They don't though. They propose many reforms but they fundamentally don't have a way to coordinate labor whilst simultaneously negating private property.

>>2580588
>What do you think of a social network as a sort of hub for direct voluntary organisation of labour
That's a bit like parecon. Imo it could work but it's highly idealistic if it aims to suppress the bulk of production.
I could see it however in a socialist or post-capitalist setting progressively supplanting small services

>>2581203
>Imo it could work but it's highly idealistic if it aims to suppress the bulk of production.
>I could see it however in a socialist or post-capitalist setting progressively supplanting small services
Yeah, of course, it would be impossible to supplant the bulk of production instantaneously. But it is something that could as you say progressively supplant services, and work in conjunction with state seizure. As an alternative economic model it does have possibilities, and could constitute the slow withering of state control of industry.
Something I haven't seen proposed from people purely interested in taking control of the political apparatus. Both are required.

>>2581119
This nonsense is playing out with ubi and job loss due soyence and technology

>>2573868
A society where classes have been smashef, the state been demolished and the money burned, where the workers manage the means of production and where resources are allocated through central planning from one's abilities according to one's needs.

>>2573868
This thread is a great place to repost my very relevant Effort post about the “Aesthetics of Communism” from my thread of the same title https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/2545468.html , ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

This Effort Post will describe what exact superstructural changes will occur in the aftermath of a Global Maoist Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution once the Material Base has been transformed after the Socialist Mode of Production has been established Worldwide. Enjoy Comrades, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

I will present a thought experiment, what will the World look like a century from now, decades after the World Maoist Protracted People's War (PPW) swept the forces of Capital and Reaction into the dustpan of History in the aftermath of World War III (it started in the Late 2020s as a High-Intensity Conventional Conflict between the U$ and China that escalated into a Global Nuclear War, but contrary to most Pseudoscientific Bourgeois Liberal and Revisionist expectations did not cause an apocalyptic "Nuclear Winter", but instead completely destroyed the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System and allowed for a World Maoist PPW that saw Maoist rebels seize control of the entire planet after decades of guerrilla warfare), 🤔? This Effort post will seek to answer that question, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

First, I will explain the political structure of this future Socialist world. There will be a Global USSR, in which every major Nation/Ethnic group will receive their own SSR or ASSR according to the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR (as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR Post too long. Click here to view the full text.