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>>2543514
Comrades, any guides to help organize a strike?



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>55.8% of the respondents say the Communist state itself was also good.

>66.2% of Romanians believe Communist leader Nicolae Ceaușescu was a "GOOD LEADER"


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>>2578889
They've shot him and his wife without trial or anything approaching legality precisely because he actually had high approval ratings

>Aurafarming by singing the internationale before his execution

>>2584426
This made me believe he couldn't have been that bad.

>>2578889
>>2578889
>55.8% of the respondents say the Communist state itself was also good.
Should be much higher.
>66.2% of Romanians believe Communist leader Nicolae Ceaușescu was a "GOOD LEADER"
Should be much lower.

>>2579283
Hungary was nice too.



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>>2584293
I don't think I can say those things. Even here

>>2584367
god, elon is such a fucking pussy turned xitter into a chud hell hole and still tries to do the "im not right im an enlightened centrist!" act

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>>2584390
spoiler it sillie

Okay lady show me the part where Marx said that revolution outside of Western and Central Europe can only be carried out by the industrial proletariat, or can only be carried out by the industrial proletariat in general - he supported the Union (against unfree labor as she correctly put it) but it was a bourgeois revolution at best, but he did notice the revolutionary potential in his letters to Zasulich sleeping in Russian peasant and village communes.

Also, the Haitian revolution happened before Marx's lifetime, it would be silly to assume that he was ignorant about it or didn't think about it

The freeing of unfree labor should precede the liberation of the worker

>>2584063
>We gotta support the dems because of le hecking ebil republicans
I'm begging you to let go of your political devotion to the liberal wing of the american uniparty



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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

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>>2584241
I STG a lot of you yanks on this site dont want a better world, all you people are interested in is a counter-cultural identity that is still subversive in your country.
>>2584340
Your SWP sounds like our 'spartacists'. Some crazy old ladies.

>>2584340
>The British SWP has been more of a thing on the left there for years, like they actually organize demos and shit

They organise the most pathetic demos possible that consist of walking around town centres yelling slogans and holding up placards that do nothing to build class consciousness.

They also actively hijack movements with better praxis and then lie to them.

Good article on this:
https://livesrunning.wordpress.com/2025/08/21/working-with-stand-up-to-racism-the-good-the-bad-the-deeply-annoying/

>The SutR people in the room all insisted on speaking (at what was billed as a short meeting with an absolute time limit of 1 hour). Their speeches copied one another. They made boring, generalised, interventions of no relevance to our immediate situation. Yes, racism and fascism are bad: the people in the room didn’t need to be told it, that’s why they were in the room.


>What we got on the Saturday though was an SutR presence which took the form of familiar, routine, chants. They took control of the PA, refused to allow one of the agreed musicians (Orchestrated Discontent) to perform. They accepted some speakers from the agreed set list, imposed others which no one had agreed and who’d played no part in the campaign but belonged to the SWP’s lost of its long-term allies (eg the People’s Assembly). A number of SWP/Sutr stewards wouldn’t take direction from the non-SWP chief steward, but stood passively at the front of the march doing nothing as the police brought out their batons


>The other Islington activists saw with frustration that the protest had become exactly what our meeting had argued against, a left mobilisation done on muscle memory, led by people from outside the borough, shouting “fascist scum” over and over again at a right-wing protest in which there were, as far as the rest of us could tell, no actual fascists, certainly none anywhere near the leadership of that protest.

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NHS is falling apart. Anecdotally I've spent 2 months trying to get hold of my meds, made about 10 phone calls, and had my appointments cancelled 3 times.
How do we fix it?

>>2584429
option 1: give it more money. the UK spends a relatively low amount per head on healthcare compared to other first world countries (it's italy/spain tier rather than germany tier, important to remember whenever some dickhead says "why don't we copy germany's system?")
option 2: give it more money and reform NHS England to be organized more like NHS Scotland. NHS England had a lot of basically pointless reform under Blair and Cameron while NHS Scotland didn't. By most measures NHS Scotland is as good or equal to NHS England. (That's why, when proving otherwise, people cheat and compare population health rather than the NHS itself. Scots are less healthy for a variety of reasons, but the NHS treats them just as well.)
option 3: more stupid Blair style reform that sucks up time and money and doesn't do anything but does let the government indulge its fetish for cosplaying blairism
option 4: abandon the basic principles of the NHS and introduce some kind of pay-to-play insurance system for middle and upper income groups which will no doubt have an arbitrary cutoff area where you're suddenly a lot poorer for no real reason, and probably some nonsense like the unemployed not getting any insurance unless they're on benefits, only because this is britain there remains chronic underinvestment and the government won't let you import 15 million doctors and nurses so costs skyrocket while waiting times remain basically the same
option 5: as above but somehow overcome britain's institutional dynamics so that costs go up but service quality also goes up because market dynamics operate the way they would elsewhere. it's ugly and it gets rid of the last remaining possible reason to have any pride - or indeed belief - in a nation called 'britain', but the upside is that if it works you might actually get healthcare from the healthcare system.
option 6: (sneaky, evil) move existing funding around so that emphasis is put on giving healthcare to working age people without pointless waiting and gatekeeping while creating bureaucratic nightmares that leave people above the average life expectancy unlikely to receive treatment, since costs basically increase with age.
option (191)7: as comrade sultana says, nationalize the entire economy. communism salves all ills.

>>2584429
Bern thinking tbis today too. How do we begin to generate analysis and a program for wide scale NHS reform?
Are there convos about this going on in YP?
>>2584422
Yea. Every city has similar horror stories with the SWP. I remember once they asked the local antifa anarchists to protect their meeting but then phoned the fucking police when the fucking fash turned up.



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>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


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>>2584202
i like how newsom is already effectively coronated 4 years out. what a stupid ass country

>>2584402
His thesis for a long time: "Imperialism benefits Americans and CPUSA supports imperialism for that reason"

His New Thesis: "CPUSA supports imperialism on the condition that it benefits Americans but that condition never comes true."

Extra clown juice: "Nick Fuentes is more anti imperialist than CPUSA"

>>2584412
>that condition never comes true.
Not him but you're getting opportunities and goods due to imperialism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDyqNocp14

Titled: Why MAGA is not working class. Feat John Bellamy Foster.

This is very good, I recommend comrades watch.

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>>2584421
>Regardless of debates concerning the actual authenticity of “Mamdani” as a figure
>(Foster seems to regard him as genuine)
Opinion discarded.



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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2584022
Guess again gayboy

>>2584025
NTA but there no reason why I can't live in a townhouse with extended family including my many wives

>>2583977
To be fair, even a lot of disabled people are getting sick and tired of the "DON'T CURE THE DISABILITY, CURE SOCIETY" bullshit. Who under socialism would want to be disabled and lose out on enjoying life to the fullest in a system that works for everyone? It seems like a lot of disabled idpol is based on the idea that having a disability makes you "unique" and thus more marketable on social media. Plus, a socialist society would seek to cure debilitating conditions or use CRISPR to wipe out debilitating conditions entirely.

>>2583896
Haz and his ilk literally are a LaRouchite grifter cult. Hell, Haz said himself that he was inspired by Heidegger and Dugin instead of Marx. They are literally fascists once again co-opting left-wing slogans and rhetoric to try to appear left -wing when they really are not.

>>2584413
Haz is a very avowed reader of Marx, you're just lying. You can syncretize Heidegger with Marx, this is not at all unique to Haz.



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Recent news:
STG sets up roadblocks on the roads leading to Suwayda, pursuant to the ceasefire agreement.
Remaining tribals in Suwayda governorate launch a last-ditch attack on Suwayda city.
Tribals enter some of the city's northwest areas. They suffer heavy casualties and retreat from the city on the same day.
Straggler tribals launch a few attacks on Druze villages here and there, nothing significant.
Overall ceasefire holds up after that. STG prevents further entry of tribals and their numbers keep dwindling.
STG releases their report on the massacres of Alawites in March of this year. They say that they aren't directly responsible.
Saudi announces they will buy a bunch of property in Syria.
Israeli and Syrian officials meet in Paris. A second meeting in Baku was cancelled.
Accusations that the STG is doing a soft siege on Suwayda governorate and worsening the humanitarian situation.
Turkey/SNA starts threatening the SDF and launches a few attacks against them in Deir Hafer and Tishreen dam.

Links:
t.me/Medmannews - Well known channel (Egyptian owner). Posts frequently about MENA
t.me/Middle_East_Spectator - Iranian owner
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Öcalan spoke mostly about Syria during the meeting:
"The March 10th Agreement between Mazlum Abdi and Shara must be implemented. Those there will listen to me, too."
Gülistan Koçyiğit, a member of DEM, who attended the Commission's visit to İmralı, explained what Öcalan said during the meeting:
"The Syrian issue was the main focus of the meeting. The delegation members also asked more questions about Syria."
"He said he attaches importance to the March 10th agreement and that it must be implemented. Perhaps it's worth noting that this is the most fundamental and underlined point in the Syrian context.
In this sense, he expressed the need for integration of the armed forces into the army, but also for local security forces.
He described one as the Ministry of Interior and the other as the Ministry of National Defense. "You can think of it as two," he said. "One will be integrated into the Ministry of National Defense as an army. The local security forces will be local security forces under the Ministry of Interior. "It could be considered that way," he said. He emphasized the need for thorough discussion of this issue.
I must say that Mr. Öcalan's stance on Syria is very constructive. He believes that the problems there can be overcome through dialogue.
And he clearly and directly stated that he would be very effective in this regard. When asked this question himself, he said, "Yes, the people there will listen to me, too."

For a very long time, the Assad regime existed, and its characteristic feature was ultimately a dictatorship, and it remained so for years. Today, there's a Sharia regime. If true democratization doesn't occur, it will ultimately lead to a dictatorship. In that sense, we must emphasize that one of the fundamental things he described as essential is local democracy.
<https://x.com/serbestiyetweb/status/1994326169127158085

>>2575263
Any update on this? I'm confused how it's related to Syria, did Syrian related factions do the attack?

>>2576810
Yeah if there's one thing dictatorships fear it's the awesome power of local democracy

>>2576951
which is why they say it has to be armed.

>>2576810
>Any update on this? I'm confused how it's related to Syria, did Syrian related factions do the attack?
semi related with Kurdish groups in Iraq that have supported the Kurdish groups in Syria, financially, militarily, and politically. also, the plants in Iraq have processed in those refineries and plants in the past, which makes me wonder if the attack was to sabotage any Kurdish income.

Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit: One force will join the army, the other will ensure public order
Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit, Deputy Group Chair of the Peoples' Equality and Democracy Party (DEM Party), who was among the members of the Parliamentary Commission who met with Leader Apo in İmralı, stated that Syria was evaluated comprehensively by Leader Apo during the meeting, but this was not reflected in the minutes in Parliament, and that Leader Apo presented a formula for the Syrian Democratic Forces (SDF).

Speaking to Cansu Çamlıbel of T24, Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit said that Leader Apo warned that if democratization is not achieved in Syria, Ahmed al-Shara, the head of the transitional administration, could turn into a dictator.

Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit, who reported that Leader Apo presented a formula for the SDF during the meeting, said, "He says the military force could be integrated into the army, and that the region could have its own security forces. In fact, while discussing this, he said, 'I think there are watchmen in Türkiye.' What he meant was, 'One power center will join the army, and another power will establish the local defense line and ensure security.'"

Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit stated that Önder Apo did not say to the YPG that he would unconditionally lay down all his weapons and disband himself like the PKK, and that this was not true.

'"IF DEMOCRATIZATION DOES NOT HAPPEN, SHARA WILL ALSO TURN INTO A DICTATOR"

Gülistan Kılıç Koçyiğit, stating that Leader Apo made an assessment of the Assad family dynasty since the time of Hafez Assad in Syria, said the following:

"They became a family dynasty. And we see that Syria is the most wounded, most painful region in the region. Today, they say Sharaa has transformed. If he has truly transformed, then democratization is necessary," he said. "But if democratization doesn't happen, Sharaa will also turn into a dictator," he said. "We know what can happen in such a situation," he said.

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>>2583449
>Teachers, Nurses, Flight Attendents, cashiers, stockers, firefighters, waiters, warehouse workers, electricians, plumbers, daycare worekrs, truck drivers aren't LE REAL WORKERS because they're PROVIDING LE SERVICE instead of PRODUCING LE COMMODITY on LE ASSEMBLY LINE
please… stop this nonsense…

>>2583448
the article is hysteria per usual. It's called a coworking space and every country has them. in the usa a daypass is like 30$ so the Chinese are getting a pretty sweet deal here. you pretty much do whatever, for the homeless its meant to be used as a resource to network and find jobs online

>>2582193
People have already started parodying those retarded "Japan is living in 2050" videos which show someone opening a plastic cup with some kind of bright-colored jelly desert inside

bump

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeKu6VpasW0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_9BKd8HtdY

If you all know hindi, these two videos are good imho.

one indian journalist went to china (in its poorest province) to see their poverty elevation program, and found out how the system works,

quick tldr
>the system takes a bottom up approach to create plans. Ground Cadre has a say in policy making
> To eliminate corruption five layers of inspections are at work, where the political cadre and educational figures can go for inspection anytime
>government provides infrastructure to rural poor citizens so that they can participate in the economy, even providing wifi or digital equipments like mic, to help them share their products on the internet
>the party cadre close to 45000 works as volunteer in these rural provinces.

Total death to bordigaists, long live PRC



 

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>>2584202
The sooner people realize that Amerikkka is the enemy not a friend to be made of, the better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDyqNocp14

This is very good, I recommend comrades watch.

>>2584417
Titled: Why MAGA is not working class. Feat John Bellamy Foster.

Dr. Foster speaks very well on the issue.



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