>>2578177yea, i was more replying specifically to that page of the communist manifesto and give context to it and what the anon highlighted. the anon is tryng to constrast marx and deng. i think marx is right! and so does deng!
although at the time of writing the communist manifesto marx did think socialism would form first in britain, france and germany because they had the most advance productive forces, later he changed his minds with his letters on russia like i said.
in my mind, paradoxically, it may be “easier” for a vanguard party (like the Bolsheviks or CPC) to seize the state in their historical conditions, after studying marxism, because the bourgeoisie was weak or non-existent and state institutions were fragile or in crisis. by contrast, in advanced capitalist democracies, bourgeois class power is deeply entrenched, economically, politically, and ideologically. also through the spoils of imperalism, capitalism was able to adapt (e.g. reforms, welfare states) and become resilient. i think a revolutionary transformation in the west may possibly be far more chaotic, contested, and violent now due to how much power the bourgeoisie have accrued particularly in countries like the US.
>china who has the most advanced productive forcesnot necessarily. they lead in some areas (EVs, batteries, drone tech, solar tech, 5g, etc) but they're still behind in computer hardware, lithography, photoresist, commercial aviation and other areas. they are rapidly catching up tho, all the more impressive cosnidering in the 1980s, a toilet was a luxury in china and now they have their own space station, a rover on mars, and DJI is the world's top drone manufacturer.