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>>2581398
Only one of the people in that picture would go on to reveal their clever plan to use diplomacy to buy more time for militarisation, the other got mocked as completely unprepared for open conflict and had experts and think tanks banking on a perceived lack of military capability and a swift defeat

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>MOSCOW, Dec 2 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Tuesday that Russia did not want a war with European powers but that if Europe did want a war then Russia was ready right now to fight.
spicy

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>>2581437
inb4 seething and screeching and not accepting reality



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<The Lustful Treatler Edition


>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
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🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list

📺 Glowie News 📺
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The Chinese embassy to Japan declared on twitter that the 1951 San Francisco Peace Treaty is invalid and illegal, as it violated U.N law and procedures. This follows a series of tweets threatening to use the Enemy States Clause against Japanese aggression
https://xcancel.com/ChnEmbassy_jp/status/1995654699480220052

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Francisco


I'm already seeing a army of cia bots and anime profile picturers on social media telling me why killing and raping venezuelans for oil is based actually. You can't make this shit up.

honkoid status?

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Doesn't the fact that CHINA has multiple STOCK exchanges, prove that its CAPITALIST? How do le elder scroll ones explain this? Even old turn of the century imperial germany was closer to socialism than modern day China.
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>>2581427
What a weird way to look at history and the class struggle anon

>>2581427
Marx and Engels were just inspirational figures to lenin.

>>2581429
My opinion is the exact opposite of yours.
>>2581431
That is clear to me. The glazing is not.

>>2580376
Even in a fully communist society without class,state, or currency something similar to a stock exchange will exist,just not for private ownership.

>>2581434
No it will not. In a fully communist society there is no need for labor or scarcity hence the stock exchange would bd useless. Maybe if its a videogame or sonething.



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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

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>>2581208
Le democracy is good, therefore, the more democracy, the more gooder your movement is. Who cares about proles when we can vooooot

>>2581183
As if we don't have enough british lolcows

juries to be scrapped in england and wales for crimes of less than three years


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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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>>2581285
Got any more snappy quips to say? Fucking jackass.

>>2581317
Do you like apples?

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>>2581317
you can say that literally anything that currently exists today is a product of/affected by capitalism and you wouldnt be wrong. its just insanely reductive and stupid thing to say

someone killing themselves is as much a "fault" of capitalism as is being cucked by your girlfriend or having your primary school classmates steal your erasers

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amazing that many twitter artists can just spend even a whole year without uploading anything to patreon and still collect hundreds of bucks from their whales each month

>>2581410
Yes, as we all know, artists who take commissions online are very wealthy and live lavish lifestyles



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Starting this thread and hopefully it stays a general. There's no thread dedicated to the EVROPA and what happens here.

everal European countries are currently reevaluating their military conscription policies, with some, like Croatia, having recently decided to reinstate it. Regarding pension reforms, the debate is also active, with France serving as a prominent example where a recent reform is facing political opposition and proposed suspension.
>Croatia.
Parliament voted in October 2025 to bring back a 2-month compulsory service starting in 2026.
>Germany
The government is moving toward a "new military service" model starting with a mandatory digital questionnaire for young men from 2027, with the potential for mandatory conscription if needed.
>Denmark
Expanding to include women from July 2025. Service is selected via a lottery system from the pool of eligible 18-year-olds.
>Latvia
Reintroduced in 2023. All men between 18 and 27 must serve for 11 months.

Concurrently, pension reform is trying to be pushed in Belgium, France, Bosnia and Slovenia (that I know of). All want to raise the retirement age and lower pensions low term.

Serbia has a rebellion going on for almost a year.
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>>2581050
Seen this guy several times as a war pundit, he's on copium like an average NAFOid. He might be the type of commander who would insist on infantry holding out inside a tactical encirclement indefinitely. The comments are full of NAFO simps though because he apparently looks like a "German general should look like" in their mind, so maybe that's why gets invited.
Meanwhile there's the Austrian colonel who is also coping but apparently has a far more sober view on the theatre.

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>>2581397
I cant wait for European nationalists to kill another 100 million people in completely unnecessary wars over pieces of land.

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>>2561235
Don't forget to mention they're Trots lol

German government collapse is. imminent.



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Its frustrating how the military goons stopped cybersoc not once but twice.
First by saying it was borgoise science when if was formulated and then ending the soviet internet later.



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The biggest rebutal I see in the eyes of the average person to "socialism" and "communism" is that it's utopic, that it relies on bad assumptions, that it doesn't work in reality etc. In essence, that we're advocating for something that can't be and that we have no alternative to capitalism.
And, to that effect, what are we even advocating for ? It appears to me that we have a bunch of different movements with many different goals that don't actually ressemble one another. Yet, despite this, very few of these movements have actual "models", it just seems like they want to reform or do a revolution for the sake of action rather than purpose.
Shouldn't we concentrate on clear objectives and goals before having all this talk about how marxism-leninism-maoism-gonzalo thought is superior to cybernetic-trotskism-councilism in achieving [we run into the problem here]?

>inb4 abolition of private property, abolition of capitalism, abolition of alienation

We can't actually base our objectives around these vagues goals though, or at least not at the current time and at the forefront. Abolition of private property doesn't mean anything if there's no framework to offer an alternative or to replace it. Marx laid us many goals but, given that he didn't specify what or how, shouldn't it be up to us to conceptualize the type of system which we want in accordance with the relevant theories he proposed.

Apart from small intellectuals scattered everywhere (Cockshott, Schweickart etc), there seems to be an evident lack of clear model that actually adresses the critique of marx's ambitions and dismisses its apparent utopianism.
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>>2580663
Shut up retard, you are too dumb to do anything but circlejerk theories 200 years old. Unions and the workers party ain't gonna achieve shit. Have you actually engaged with the world today outside your computer? This nonsense will never gain any traction in the West again.
And also, id kill myself before I ever suggested anything to do with labour vouchers.

>>2580766
Revolutionary Spain was a mess though. The anarchists refused to seize state power and ended up propping up the liberal republicans. And the attempt at post-capitalist social relations was an incoherent hodgepodge of local systems which barely worked and had to be superseded by an abortive attempt at central planning.

>>2580651
They don't though. They propose many reforms but they fundamentally don't have a way to coordinate labor whilst simultaneously negating private property.

>>2580588
>What do you think of a social network as a sort of hub for direct voluntary organisation of labour
That's a bit like parecon. Imo it could work but it's highly idealistic if it aims to suppress the bulk of production.
I could see it however in a socialist or post-capitalist setting progressively supplanting small services

>>2581203
>Imo it could work but it's highly idealistic if it aims to suppress the bulk of production.
>I could see it however in a socialist or post-capitalist setting progressively supplanting small services
Yeah, of course, it would be impossible to supplant the bulk of production instantaneously. But it is something that could as you say progressively supplant services, and work in conjunction with state seizure. As an alternative economic model it does have possibilities, and could constitute the slow withering of state control of industry.
Something I haven't seen proposed from people purely interested in taking control of the political apparatus. Both are required.

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>>2581119
This nonsense is playing out with ubi and job loss due soyence and technology



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