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>>2578051
Andrew R. Gallimore with the book Reality Switch Technologies



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>55.8% of the respondents say the Communist state itself was also good.

>66.2% of Romanians believe Communist leader Nicolae Ceaușescu was a "GOOD LEADER"


Any opinions?
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>>2579162
trvke

regarding OP post, maybe i should look into ceausescu more since i always regarded him as the most subpar out of them all [gomunist leaders] due to le palace and questionable demographic policy

Anticommunist sentiment is heavy in Romania, it's basically considered standard fact that Nicolae was an idiot and a horrible leader. People mostly associate communism with the heavy austerity measures he enacted to get rid of that imf debt. Still it's a mixed bag, younger people are inundated with 30 years of anti communist nationalist ruling ideology, but they're not stupid either they can tell things aren't much better now either and getting worse. For older people it's a mix of that, their personal experience under the system, nostalgia and things being different and/or better back then.

I watched this movie from Romania that goes kind of into that situation. "I'm an old communist hag", would recommend if you want to get a sense of the more positive/nostalgic aspects of Romanian's view towards the communist era. Romania has a lot of good movies in general

MLibs be posting this not knowing that the average age there is 60 and people tend to miss their youth

It only proves nationalist illusions about le glorious past they had under that socdem monarchy

>>2579947
>leftcom regurgitating unironic anticommunist counterarguments
no contradiction

>>2579947
>It's just nostalgia!! These things can only be explained by my essentialist pseudo psychoanalysis of boomers
Lol and you have the gall to call others libs



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>>2579918
By 'over trivial nonsense', I mean to say your apprehensions are trivial nonsense and you might as well get over them and engage

>>2579915
>hoped
They did build stuff like bridges, dams and irrigation channels, though. They were denied the very possibility to attempt industrialization, though

>>2579760
>muh abolish everything

Well, let's see:
<The old relations of production, based upon exploitation and oppression, have been abolished and the new, independent, equal, socialist and collective production order is being gradually consolidated and developed.

Oh, so they've removed landowners and kulaks from the equation. Why do you people read this as "achieved communism" or "sit atop a pile of corpses in edenic utopia"? Are you secretly rightoids who organically cannot understand the text they are reading?

>>2579924
Yeah, you're right. You get my point though

Dengist Zionism status?



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Ruzzia claiming Ukraine is collapsing when they still haven't secured Pokrovsk after a full 2 years of fighting lmao. I can't wait for the Democrats to sweep the midterms and take the next election and then give Zelensky all the weapons he needs to push the Ruzzians back to the Ural Mountains.

>>2579767
any war undertaken by a capitalist government is imperialism

>>2579889
big if true

The new "Hamlet" you need to seethe/cope over is Chasiv Yar.

It’s the latest "decidedly material" domino in the dialectical chain reaction of this Special Military Operation. The bunker-posters on the front won't shut up about it. Why? Because when it falls (and it will, with the iron historical necessity of a Soviet tank column), the entire Ukrainian defensive line in Donetsk gets folded like a cheap suit from the GUM store.

Think of it as the hyper-objective, material keystone holding up the entire theater of absurdity they call "Ukraine." Once it's liberated, the spiritual-corporeal synthesis of the DPR/LPR can proceed. Kramatorsk and Sloviansk become untenable. The collapse won't be televised on CNN (they'll be too busy interviewing a genderless drone operator), but it will be felt in the boardrooms of BlackRock and the smoking dens of D.C.'s "consultants."

So get hyped, fellow materialist. Stock up on coping mechanisms. The taking of this hill will not just be a tactical victory; it will be a symphony of historical inevitability playing out to the rhythmic artillery of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Another "hero city" myth will be punctured, another nail in the coffin of the neoliberal, post-Maidan construct.

The specter is haunting Donbas. And its name is Chasiv Yar.

(Now watch as the "soyjak" Western intel agencies scramble to explain how another "fortress" city was just a subjective idealist fantasy. Dialectics, baby.)

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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

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>>2579882
You really don't like Zarah Sultana as though she's the one who (for example) got Corbyn to go out and tell the press the SWP were banned because they're registered with the electoral commission, only for it to be immediately noticed that the SWP are not registered with the electoral commission.

>>2579883
There's a clique of ex-Labour people around Corbyn who want cushy jobs and control over the party. As in 2017 it's supposed to be a sort of vibes-based thing where people mostly follow the leader - and since he's a leader who doesn't lead, that means following whoever has his ear.

Sultana upset this dynamic because (a) she's not part of that circle and (b) she's willing to shoot at an open goal, which makes it hard to paint her as a wrecker when she's the only one pointing out that there are elephants in the room.

>>2579893
The idea Zarah is a SWP entryist is laughable. She used to be a Labour MP! Corbyn and the SWP were best mates (not because he is one of them, but because they both show up to literally every protest), he was chatting to their national secretary on the train to conference! You're telling me that this guy, who didn't even have the force to launch the party, has the cold-blooded killer instinct to sit there chatting away to a bloke while thinking in the back of his head "lol, you're purged, Trot."?

r.e. parties: Party-based campaigning is bad for competency because you either have to focus on the party, or on the issues. A campaign for the federalization of england independent of a party (it is after all a non-party issue, something the Lib Dems love, something some Labour people - like mayors - might go along with, something YP is likely to endorse, something even the SNP and Plaid might make warm noises about…) might be useful and can even have its success measured via where the issue appears in polls, etc, but making it part of a party just subsumes it to nonsense. Admitting failure is hard, so instead of doing so when the party gets 15 votes at its first election people will turn to praising the fundamental correctness of their line, the graphic desiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2579920
The Tarty Birds of today are the Susan's and Tahira's of tomorrow!

>>2579937
Speak English.

Got a Shen Yun brochure in the mail. It has quotes from famous celebrities and politicians telling people to watch this cult-run reactionary garbage.

>>2579172
He is such a liberal lmao



 

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>>2579925
>Ideology gets redefined as psychological process
Why do leftists constantly try to defend therapy, psychology and psychoanalysis when it's clearly compromised at it's core?

>>2579928
Why don't westerners accept they are culturally compromised and predisposed towards genocide, treachery, and theft? WEIRD man real WEIRD…

>>2579928
>coping westoid
LMFAO

>>2579931
Your first argument was that they were psychologically predisposed. Saying they are culturally predisposed is closer to the truth. Culture can be changed though it no inherent to any people. That's why you can also say Indonesians are culturally predisposed to genocide because they committed several and still celebrate them.
>>2579932
reread what I'm saying.

>>2579860
Sir, this is a bucc-ees



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If the proletariat is the historic subject then why are proletarians useless retards while most great socialist figures were not proletarian themselves, i.e. didn’t produce surplus labor value.

<Karl Marx

>Son of a lawyer
>Journalist, philosopher, political economist

<Friedrich Engels

>Part-owner of textile mills
>Factory manager

<Vladimir Lenin

>Son of a noble-rank civil servant
>Lawyer and professional revolutionary

<Leon Trotsky

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Shit almost like class consciousness exists outside the economic struggle since the conditions of the proletariat reproduce and maintain capitalist social relations. Ruling ideas of the ruling class etc etc

Almost like we need a party or something to turn the economic struggle into a political one

Marx failed to consider this since I never read him

the notion of the proletariat as the revolutionary subject is clearly a false idea. power does not move from the bottom-up, but from the top-down. always has.

It's funny how retards like OP call our movement Blanquist while they believe in spontaneity which is an idealist position invented by FUCKING ECONOMISTS LMAO

>>2579929
That‘s a reasonable answer, however, nowadays such material should be easily accessible and still socialism is more prominently represented by those kinds of people that I‘ve listed. If the counter to that is that proletarians don‘t have the time to study Marxism because capitalism squeezes them out too much as to not become prominently represented in theory, praxis or both then this may be a good excuse but it still speaks for them not being the historic subject. They are rather some sort of victim that is either bossed around by capitalists or guided by privileged intellectuals, given that the circumstances are also ripe.

#rapeglownonymous



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Why did the British colonial system in India formalize and exploit an indigenous social system that posits a fundamental moral inequality between groups of people?

Would it have been better that the British impose the imperialist European values of universal human dignity and rights on their colonial subjects?
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>>2579807
Women are serfs and not slaves otherwise they would be bought and sold. Slaves are traded, serfs do forced labor. Men profit from extracting rent from women, men don't buy and sell women.


>>2579817
Depends on the time and place. Women used to be bought and sold for marriage dowries. Anyway serfs were tied to land. I wasn't saying women are slaves, but that they are seen as property in a lot of societies, which is why there is this asymmetrical with relationships. It's why men are more than happy to have sex with women of other races but when "their" (property) women have sex with men of other races, the West/East/North/South has fallen and billions must die.

>>2579821
thanks for the book


iirc India was ready to drop the caste system
to which england intervened to keep it.



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>>2579752
You confuse the superstructure and the material base. Biological sex and race are superstructure. Women billionaires don't make sandwiches in the kitchen for working men. Black billionaires don't live in the ghetto. Superstructure and base are linked, and superstructure is important. The USAian military is superstructure and obviously the military is important. But superstructure isn't material base.

>>2579805
>You confuse the superstructure and the material base.
No. They are the ones who have confused it. They think arbitrary cultural aspects of the superstructure is inherently tied to the material base of capitalism. But capitalism can change the superficial superstructure at any point and still remain materially capitalist. If identity was inherently fused to class then women would be in the underclass forever but the existence of women billionaires prove that assertion wrong. And women being part of the bourgeoisie ruling class has changed nothing about capitalism at all.

>>2577186
>absolute spanish
<filipino and mexican

>>2579765
>nobody hates Russians

>>2577186

who is this? what is he even talking about?



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