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>>2583191
>>2583198
>>2583200
So just be a racist, mysognist, religious wife-beater?

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>AMERICA FIRST, NO COMPROMISE, WE NEED POLITICIANS THAT CARE ABOUT US
>w-welfare? Wait wait you want SNAP and healthcare? Childcare? Funded schools?
>no… we cant do that dude, my money might go to brown people if we spend taxes on americans.

>>2583191
>most men born around and after the 90s are in arrested development. Neoliberalism infantilization has made a generation of men were shoved aside and never given the tools to even be useful, let alone social and it’s getting worst.
So why hasn't this applied to zoomer women? Why are zoomer women dating twice as much as zoomer men?
>There’s gonna be a raise of femcels on par with men soon too.
You mean as more zoomer women get older, they will try to settle with a paypig but many will refuse to accept the role.

>>2583207
No you just have put yourself out there and not be afraid to be rejected. I know it sound cliche but that’s it. The reason Americans 90s on have such a hard time is because they grew up with the internet and also all third places have been demolished. Everything is a fucking micro transaction but most women are experiencing the same thing they’re just conditioned to socialize through gender roles but that’s dying off too. Which is why we’re seeing the reactionary backlash and the raise of trad wives.



 

Why is there basically no leftist anti-war movement? Seriously, among reddit tier leftoids basically no one cares about Trump's terroristic mass murder campaign against fishermen. It's almost surreal. What the fuck happpened?
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>>2582938
>Because there is no boots on the ground, americans will only start caring if one of them gets blown up

this. americans become anti war when they lose and get PTSD. as long as it's asymmetrical slaughter they don't care.

t. american who can look around and see this behavior

"Anti-war", no matter if it's coming from the left or right, is retarded. There would not be the Soviet Union, China, North Korea, Cuba without war. Violence is the ultimate source of where all power is derived. Shit doesn't get done without a few brokeuyghs

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>>2582954
>A spectator is haunting Europe and beyond.

>>2583060
Its no war but the class war duh

>>2583060
This post is stupid and retarded.
>oh so you're against murder huh? well what about if someone tried to rape you huh? what then?
Obviously there's a fucking difference between imperialist excursions (the vast vast majority of American wars) and wars for independence/class liberation.



 

Opinion of Nick Land(CCRU time)/Deleuze?Are they too schizo? Also opinion on Dugin/Nick land(Atlantism vs Eurasianism). I think they are greatest philosophers and they were not clear to everyone.
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>>2583100
Developing a voice grows from using correct grammar to be understood. Don't ask the AI to rewrite it and then use that verbatim, ask why why you wrote is wrong, going over other examples, idioms, giving etymological reasons and explanations for both. This kind of thing shouldn't have to be explicitly said.

>>2582868
Thanks I appreciate your effort to explain this approach

>>2583107
I have witnessed my NESB partner put her idiosyncratic but logical and understandable prose into chatgpt and having it return it completely normified with her original sentiments slightly warped. I'd rather read people's own idiosyncratic voice than normified AI rendering of their thoughts.

>>2583033
Kant, capital, and the prohibition of incest is an unironically good essay and the rest of Fanged Noumena has some useful stuff but overall complete nonsense, but its still a fun and enjoyable read belive it or not.

>>2582299
if marx is hegel upside down deleuze is just marx inside out. he doesn't actually overcome dialectics he just replaces negativity with generative novelty. its essentially the same frame work from the perspective of difference instead of the absolute. if you read difference and repetition he basically just explains hegel and then does a zizek and goes ah yes but what if the opposite! for me the middle of d&r was essential to understanding marx+hegel and even lenin+mao but thats mostly because of all the shit "summaries" that exist of dialectics

its interesting that this whole chain is just misreadings of misinterpretations and both marx and deleuze imo are actually just reasserting a hegel that doesn't privilege one or the other and reframes the dialectic as both/and from translators and professors that neutered his original text, "hegel is an idealist" isn't really true because for him the ideal(not idea) is the material world, but hes still pretty bourgeois so marx's addition is still important



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>>2583166
>They are suffering under patriarchy.

mmm yes daddy

>>2583117
what country is this? bangladesh?

>>2582317
/isg/ is the crypto-anarchist(illiterate leftcom) echo chamber

>>2583127
>women
those are prepubescent children

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>Information Blocked
>Access to WHOIS information for the domain themoscowtimes.com has been restricted.
Nice! Say "hi" to your Belarusian glowie friends for me.

>>2583071
taxable revenue is going down but the purchasing power of the rouble is going up, it's unclear how much this is being driven by sanctions vs. global oil prices dropping due to electrification.

> sinking the shadow fleet

blowing up a turkish merchant vessel in senegal is a war crime and a terrorist attack, not just against russia, and turkey, but senegal.

senegal is a sahel state that gets 85% of their energy from oil, a worker there makes ~$180 US monthly, unemployment is ~20%, and because unemployment doesn't account for non-productive members of society ~35% of the country lives below the poverty line, which is rising in line with global food prices.

ukraine is turning their lights off and none of the foreign policy ghouls that france24 quoted noted any of this while glazing the kind of wild adventurism that will kill workers and civilians, while disrupting shipping. europe probably gave the nod because senegal is acting as a sympathetic go-between for the independence governments of mali and burkina faso.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20251203-sinking-russia-s-shadow-fleet-has-the-ukraine-war-spread-to-senegal

>>2583114
I don't think they're even trying to crush russia's economy. over the course of the war europe's spending on russian oil dwarves their contributions to ukrainian sovereignty.

for some reason buying russian oil is fine when eurocucks do it??

>>2583173
>for some reason buying russian oil is fine when eurocucks do it??

Because if they went cold turkey their economies would immediately crash.

>>2583173 (me)
forgot to mention oil prices also going down due to deregulation, and probably the futures market is fucked until there's been some assessment of venezuelan resistance against the yanks.

also worth unpacking are the "shadow fleet" accusations. nowhere near enough receipts on that one. I mention this because the other big "shadow fleet" story is about a nominally cameroonian vessel that carried a shipment between cuba and venezuela, doggedly sneaking through the seppo blockade to deliver to beleagured venezuela. rather a heroic act.

https://gcaptain.com/sanctioned-russian-tanker-seahorse-reaches-venezuela-following-earlier-u-s-navy-blockade/

transporting russian oil isn't illegal: there aren't UNSC sanctions in place so people can buy and sell as much of the shit as they want provided their vessel and the party they're selling to aren't bound by autonomous sanctions.

the west has barred its own vessels from a huge chunk of the global oil trade, their shipping companies are liquidating vessels. all the buyers are buying them to move crude from russia to to the third world. this was inevitable. these ships can't be retrofitted to do anything else.

you can't expect people to stop needing electricity or petrochemicals just because they're brown or poor. maybe the russian state bought some of these ships, but it's just as likely that affected states bought them, or the western shipping companies sold them to their own shell companies.

>>2583179
right, and the senegalese people can stand to eat the cost of missing shipments and the ecological fallout of fuck knows how much spilled crude?

>>2583173
Well, sanctions are not supposed to push ruble up, I can tell you that much.



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I like Jeremy Corbyn

>>2583121
Seems like this is made by a man called simon glass, former BBC employee who made documentaries for BBC 3/ iplayer about sex, dating, celebrity life.
Now it looks like he's making a mockumentary about British ML parties? Bit of a weird choice of subject given the current climate and when you could just talk to the CPGB-ML in real life.

>>2583148
Why let the cpgb-ml speak when you can speak for them?

>>2583002
There need not be any mechanism, although the fact they're already doing it and already meeting a huge chunk of the world's needs is a factor.
If you and I are equally good at building chairs, it's nevertheless more efficient for me to specialise in making the various pieces (legs, seat, back, etc) and you to specialise in assembling them, or vice versa.

>>2583016
Shipping is basically free and repairs are more of a design problem than a distance one.
In any case, we're getting side tracked from the question. For argument sake let's say a magic computer provides all the manufactured goods we could ever want: how, then, does one structure a socialist service economy?

They can just decide no one gets a trial by jury in Bongistan huh?



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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2582963
When I was a kid we had emo, punk, goth. The idea of turning autism or CPTSD into an identity club was absurd.


>>2574004
gather them to do what exactly

>>2582963
I've only become more miserable since becoming a communist. It's the whole "if you only knew how bad things really are" meme.

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>>2582912
I posted the Socialism 4 All SoundCloud. Also none of the texts I suggested are related to Foucault. "Labor and Monopoly Capital" is really the only big tome anyhow.



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Probably my most "Idpol" opinion is that on some subconscious level, people pay more attention to what’s happening in Palestine partly because Palestinians are perceived as more Caucasian or white-adjacent compared with the victims of crises in places like Sudan, Myanmar, or Somalia. Again I don’t think most people make this distinction intentionally or out of active racism, it’s just a bias that many groups, including white people and Arabs across the political spectrum, end up participating in without realizing it.
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>>2583069
Join the national of islam akhi

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>>2583069
It's not that the left worships a certain color (or shade for that matter)

Campists are unable to see beyond capitalism, all they're good for is being useful idiots for capitalists. Many leftists are directly backed by said capitalists who cry for 'reform', in this historical epoch the non-western capitalists found their alibi in 'multipolarism' (implying the world hasn't been one for the past century)

I question how any westerner could worship the 'east' when it's a concept invented by orientalists? They don't. Western campists don't see brown workers as humans. Try being brown and criticizing your wholesome dictatorship of the bourgeoisie that slaughters and oppresses you on the daily. The 'color revolution' witch hunt is more evident that westerners don't view us as subjects of history, we are mere conceptions in their grand moral crusade.

Just like the colonial orientalist, the western campist cannot perceive class. For him the 'east' is a monolith with no internal contradictions.

To add to this you just have to look at their new found veneration of Burkina Faso's mercenary-backed Junta

Or their spineless defence of the neoliberal imperialist Russian regime

It was never about color

OMG

The zionist-adjacent loops you are drawing to pass for anti-Israel pro-palestine chauvinism for something that can much more easily be explained:

By the simple fact that indeed, Zionism is mostly rooted (other than Israel) in western, specifically NATO and allied places, and therefore the Palestinian question is necessarily more present and, like everything, warped by the liberal spin on it.

>>2582431
>Plus news reporting, journalists making that very bias will write about one more than the other. So it compounds multiplicatively.
>the actual reason is that israel exercises a lot of power in the us and the internet and global media in general are all american or downstream from american media
>>2582780
>As you said events like the Malian army being assraped by jihadists or the killings in Sudan are just business as usual in the American mind.
The media can shape what's "important" and what isn't, but it also responds to what gets attention as well because different news outlets compete with each other for traffic. I can tell you that anything involving Africa gets a fraction of the traffic compared to other conflicts. People see anything involving Africa in a headline and they keep scrolling. Now the underlying reasons for that might be a racial bias, but you'll hear Israel's internet soldiers say "but what about Africa, doesn't the Western left care about them" and okay sure but it's not like they give a crap about Africans either.

It might also be a bit different in France. Large parts of Africa speak French. The coups in the Sahel, which were also anti-French, got a lot more attention in France, but in the U.S. it's just another group of military officers.

>>2582518
>It's easier to mobilise around Palestine because we've had a lot of practice, due to having the last 80 years to organise around doing it.
>>2583101
>Its because organization relating to Palestine has been working for decades, where as Sudan/Myanmar is an issue that only exploded in the past few years.
Yeah, I think this is a big one. There's a whole organization around it that's been around for many years. It has been shaped by the influence of Palestinian diaspora intellectuals going back decades.

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