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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<An Evolving Romance Edition


>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


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🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
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>>2599349
There is a sweet number of nuke discharge which will destroy america but not the whole world
Obviously there will be some radiation which all of us will have to deal with because of the wind and what not, of course Mexica and Canacucks will be fucked, but some sacrifice is needed comrades

Amerikan Death Über Alles

wow

>>2599343
My mom used to kick us out on the weekends. She would say get lost. You watched your Saturday morning toons, that is enough indoors screentime. Then we go ride bikes around the woods or the neighborhood or whatever. Be back when the streetlights come on. Just like da movies.

>>2599298
Proletarian revolution is a long ways down the road in America. That much is true. However, what we CAN do is diminish the influence and power of the US government, creating a crisis that forces them to withdraw from the world and focus inwards. Only then, with that crisis, can we even BEGIN to organize a proletarian revolution.

I neither know the answers to your questions, nor can I spend time worrying about them. Those are problems that we will have to come to grips with later. But for now, our enemy must be fought and it must be destroyed. The time to worry about rebuilding the village can come only after the dragon is gone. For now we can only focus on the enemy.

>>2599347
He's not praising nuclear energy when nuclear energy is the most efficient.



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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
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<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

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There is a silent movie from 1920 wherein a golem which bares an uncanny resemblance to Donald Trump, is commanded by a jewish wizard who bares an uncanny resemblance to young pictures of Jeffrey Epstein. By the end of the film, the Epstein wizard uses the golem to murder the film's white male primary character.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6dvWPN8OMA [Open]
That this film exists, in my opinion, is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Golem:_How_He_Came_into_the_World

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>Erika and I had an extremely productive 4 1/2 hour meeting that I think we both feel should have taken place a lot earlier than it did.
>4 1/2 hour
Dayum… That must have been a helluva of a steamy lesbian romp…

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Sarah stock is a white supremacist and a friend of nick fuentes groyper crew. Vance is trying to be slick telling them to just be anti Israel. Lol no dude conceding ground won't work here. They want the whole overton window. No compromis

>>2598961
Why does his hair look like William Murderface's?

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I wonder why nobody posted the video of a Russian nuclear submarine getting blown up in dock in /ukr/. Is it not important? But the thread is full of screencaps of irrelevant twitter e-celebs. You'd think the people there who spend all day posting would post such an important event. But they didn't. Why? Truly peculiar.



 

/US-Venezuela war/ #4
>Chavista Rapid Action Troops Edition

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Thread in which we discuss the latest aggression-based-on-lies by the USA against a country which did not attack it.
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>>2598674
>if stalin didn't demonize drugs the neocons would now be powerless to hurt maduro
the absolute state of trots

>>2598729
Saddam wasn't really anti-Shia. He had Shias in his admin and didn't care about sect, just whether you supported or opposed him. Of course a lot of the majority Shias would have preferred one of their own and closer relations with Iran.
Venezuela is entirely different (it's not a dictatorship first of all), and a lot of the population is invested in the social programs and don't want to lose them to a neolib puppet regime.
also, even though the iraqi army quickly gave up, a lot of those guys just went away to bide time and build the insurgency.

>>2598969
I'm not a trot, drug prohibition wasn't a thing during Stalin's era, you're in denial that you're a conservative reactionary supporting US foreign policy exported through the UN.


>>2597149
so this one should take longer to start up, then? what if it just never starts up. what if the burger reich is only capable of bullying fishermen and fizzling out?



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>Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
>You must answer the question to make a new thread. See the last field.
>The body was too short or empty.
6-2=????
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>>2598490
Better than the totally reactionary cesspit that is England.

>>2598498
Maybe but that's no excuse for lying that it would be socialist

>>2598511
makes the struggle that bit easier lad

>>2598433
such juvenility

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fair play to carl, he's right about this. the liberal elitist does not see minorities as subjects, but as objects, the exact same way that a slave master does. the benefit to the country which zack polanski sees from immigrants is their servitude toward the native whites by humiliating tasks (e.g. wiping bums or delivering food). the general immigration model works like this by imperialism, which imposes a lower standard of living on the developing world to create a dependent slave caste willing to sacrifice their dignity for pennies. this is also why members of the liberal establishment are the truest reactionaries, since they feel no pretense about their class position, while the right struggles to articulate the codefied beliefs of liberals, just in an ugly way. this is also the case in the US, where the democrats have always been more effective on deportations than the republicans, who now resort to theatre rather than doing their job. liberals are simply the best fascists, while "real" fascists are dogmatic dorks, not realising that the reich won the second world war (e.g. operation paperclip, the EU and NATO).



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Socialist
>Emmm END OF HISTORY is le wrong amirite?

Actual Fukuyama
>Everybody will eventually learn to love liberalism because the atomized liberal subject who is free to set up whatever they want as their identity/being and be validated for it is the least bad model for every ideological tendency out there

If you actually read about Fukuyama what he said is legit what a lot of lib leftoids (and rightoids who want to have individual space where they can identify as an agarthan superman) wants society to look like. They say they want community or "a village", but in the end what these liberals perceieve as a "community" is a libertarian association that ultimately serve to empower the individuals that is the end all be all of politics. Regardless of whether its rightoid politics who tell impressionable young men that they can larp as macho hunters in a warband with women all over them as long as they spend enough time doing the based ritual or leftoid anarchist who misinterpret the Deluzian rhizome all of you guys unconsciously pivot to Francis's position
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>>2597842
>But his og thesis about Liberalism being the ultimate mechanism of self affirmation in the Hegelian sense remains pretty convincing to me
Are you twelve?
>>2597824
>This is literally what Fukuyama predicted,he believed that the end point is that people will eventually just retreat into themselves and whoever wants to validate them and their identities.
He has to constantly move the goalpost to hide the fact that his thesis was simply disproven in the first ten years after the publishing of his book. The fact that you are trying to rehabilitate him speaks volumes.

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>>2597712
Meanwhile, Wallerstein

Think Wallerstein mentions needs a WWE entrance theme, sounds like this. Different guy though.

I'm not sure what people mean by individualism. Thanks to technology we live in the most conformist age in human history. At least in the rich countries.

Anyway I used to dislike Fukuyama because I was sick of seeing him referenced in "radical dissident" articles but now I admire how he makes them seethe because they can't prove him wrong.>>2597846
>liberal democracy doesn't enjoy unchallenged dominance and is actually under threat from both within and without.

>liberal democracy doesn't enjoy unchallenged dominance and is actually under threat from both within and without.


Are we getting invaded by aliens?

>>2597835

Liberals should be know that social democracy only works when there is economic growth



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Literally zero people have read Bukharin. Outside of a couple of rather pointless works that anyone could have cobbled together, most of his crap remains untranslated. I've read his pieces on SOIC, and it's the most pathetic shit ever. I say you can trace how consistent he is with most of his works on the subject of socialism in Russia alone, but he makes the case himself. He was a cowardly neurotic who couldn't sit through meetings and sided with Stalin to protect his little fiefdom.
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>>2599187
this made me laugh hard.

bukharin won, stalin lost

>>2599187
>bukharin was right but he also did nothing about it even though the fate of the first socialist state was at stake
that just makes him look worse

Also, buharin was a vulgar mechanical materialist and didn't understand dialectics so he was cringe

>>2599104
Leftypol didn’t exist back then, execution was the only way to prove you’d won an argument

>>2599228
Do you understand dialectics? Explain this diagram.



 

We could all live like the hobbits in Lord of the rings, but choose not too. War, murder, rape, inequality; caused by humans. Even most diseases are caused by malnutrition and man made pollutant exposure. Plus if you don't believe in God you don't have any justification for morality anyways. You are all a bunch of slimey cowards, the "demiurge" is a false characterisation of God. We are our own imprisoners.

>>2598483
>99.9999% of suffering is directly caused by humans.
Dolphins rape each other. Cats torture their prey. animals can be really sadistic without humans around
>Even most diseases are caused by malnutrition and man made pollutant exposure
not really dude. diseases have always existed.
>Plus if you don't believe in God you don't have any justification for morality anyways
Completely disagree. Pro-social behavior emerges because it increases survival and reproduction in social organisms. Helping others often leads to future benefits: protection, resources, information, or alliance. Organisms that behaved in ways that encouraged reciprocal treatment had higher long-term fitness than those that didn’t. This is the material essence of "morality" and "empathy" and "cooperation."
> You are all a bunch of slimey cowards, the "demiurge" is a false characterisation of God. We are our own imprisoners.
OK?

fuck off anthuman scum, humanity is the GOAT of the animal kingdom, we will make communism happen, we will reach the stars and we will genetically eliminate the wisdom tooth, we will win

>humans cause a human-made concept
wowwwwwwww

your primary mistake is assuming that human beings (homo sapiens) are not animals themselves

>War, murder, rape, inequality; caused by humans.

Which humans?



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What is adventurism and what isn't?

I feel like MLs like throwing this word around a lot but never give clear defintions.
Why do statists think it's okay for the state to commit mass violence daily, but when a indiviual commits violence against that apparatus somehow they are "adventurist" or in the wrong, like do you seriously expect the ruling class to just give up?

Even if the attacks further oppresion temporarily wouldn't that still make the social conditions for revolutions to increase? Even if it takes decades as it did in Russia.
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>>2599075
October 7th was fucking stupid. Hamas attacked knowing Israel would fucking obliterate Gaza and kill hundreds of thousands of Palestinians yet they attacked anyway. No idea how people can claim killing kibbutzniks and some stupid ravers at a music festival counts as a "military victory" like their supporters like to claim. I've also read the claim that Hamas was giving meth to its fighters before the attack that day to turn them into super soldiers.

As far as I understand. Adventurism is essentially just individual acts of sporadic violence divorced from broader popular struggle. Something like the assassinations of Charlie Kirk and Brian Thompson would be classified as adventurism. Yeah shooting porkies and their propagandists is based on a libidinal cathartic level. But in the absence of a genuine mass movement poised to take down the capitalist system it won't do a lot of damage and may do more harm than good to us in the short to long term.

>>2598840
It's not morally wrong it's tactically wrong. It's adventurist when it has no chance of winning, usually when a small force of communists attempts to fight the state without support from the masses/community, and when it's not defensive violence (which might be justified in fighting a losing battle if it has any chance of saving people).

Adventurism is wrong because it's a waste of human material to throw small weak forces against big strong forces in an unfriendly territory. We need to throw big forces against their small forces in a territory friendly to us. That requires the work of creating that situation (winning the people and growing/organizing cadre).

>>2599205
>I've also read the claim that Hamas was giving meth to its fighters before the attack that day to turn them into super soldiers.
Eh, people who don't like them say that stuff to make them seem crazier, but battlefield junkie juice is pretty common among soldiers.

>>2599075
>Frankly I still struggle to understand what their aims were.
I think a lot of people were baffled but I take them as a religious organization. Deeply so. I don't mean that in a moralfagging away to say "they're bad mmm'kay. It's just that ideology matters and such groups have a different strategic vocabulary or ethos or "habitus" compared to what you or I have (secular Western people posting on leftypol). It's like maintaining the purity of the struggle and the faith as a testament to the truth of their belief and their cause. And it's that which makes stuff happen in the world because God is real to them. Look at HTS in Syria, they pulled a surprise attack on Assad's forces and overran the country in a week. That's wild shit but for them it's proof of their belief and also their patience and willingness to make sacrifices. Also, paradoxically, maybe they're right (not that I really believe this but I'm just saying) because the 10/7 attack may have actually contributed to that victory.

>>2598865
Was 9/11 adventurism



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