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>Europoor

It's becoming increasingly clear that the majority of proles in Europe and North America are being brainwashed by their phones into believing immigration is the biggest issue in their countries. I have largely ignored this issue, as I don't really think it matters but then, last night, there was a lumpen riot in Dublin against an IPAS centre in which a foreign national who had been denied asylum and was told to "self-deport" had apparantly raped a 10 year old girl who was under state care. I usually don't believe a lot of the lies told about "migrants" online but this case makes me feel particularly uncomfortable.

It was a clear failure from the neoliberal Irish government and it's institutions that allowed something like this to happen. Why wasn't this man deported immediately after being denied asylum? Too expensive, apparently. Why was this man allowed to be in a situation where he could sexually abuse a child? Why is this man in my country in the first place? Ofc, the Free State institutions are keeping silent on it, pissing off people even more.

So, how do leftists feel about immigration and the current asylum process? Obviously, I understand this wouldn't be an issue if western corps weren't raping the third world but I also think there is a discussion to be had. Are open borders in the current world really working? Would they work post-capitalism? How do you feel about immigration, positively or negatively?
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>>2571079
>muh fascism

>>2571074
right, so communism opposes workers, as you say.
>>2571079
>both positions are pro-capitalist
curious, since a second ago, it was impossible to be a socialist who opposes mass immigration, and therefore it was necessary to support it - now, anyone who has a position on the matter is pro-capitalist (very helpful). thus as i clarify further, may a socialist state regulate immigration, or does this nullify their status as socialists?
>>2571082
>It would also cease to function as a socialist party
okay, so now i have an answer. to be a socialist you cannot believe in any regulation on immigration; if you do, you are inherently reactionary.
>communism is against the interests of labour
yes, i heard you the first time

Communists are against unretricted flow of human capital.

>>2571076
what question?

>>2571087
> right, so communism opposes workers, as you say
Yes communism opposes the reproduction of the working class, maybe read the fucking book before getting hard-ons for Woody Guthrie while you retardedly think how happy you’d be to wage slave for just a higher wage oh god just a higher wage
> curious, since a second ago, it was impossible to be a socialist who opposes mass immigration, and therefore it was necessary to support it
I just rejected your framing of the question you retarded aryan cuck, I rejected the framing the entire time in fact; the communist position has pretty much nothing to say on what a capitalist government “should” do and only what a communist movement should do, which is organize the total proletariat regardless of national origin, race, or sex; the communist position isn’t to sacrifice part of the proletariat to save another part, it isn’t even to help the entire class negotiate with capitalists to receive a better deal, it is the destruction of capitalism. Does this upset you? Confuse you? Are you angry that, what, commies aren’t race loyal? You already knew this. And you know where the hitlerites are too. This is a communist board, if the communist position is disgusting to you, nothing is keeping you here. And you can rant and rave all you want about how dirty commies refused to agree and tell you that shitskin hoards caused your poverty and problems in life.
> thus as i clarify further, may a socialist state regulate immigration, or does this nullify their status as socialists?
If the socialist project has collapsed to the extent that the “socialist state” in question itself reduces humans to abstract labor power and its political regime has oriented around the production of surplus value it would no longer function as a socialist state, we have already seen the end point of such a state of affairs, in 1979 all the way to 1991 and beyond
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>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
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>>2571083
You have to be a trccn

>>2571070
DNC and/or the GOP are not parties in the strictest European sense, but political machinery and patronage networks designed to wins elections in a FPTP duopoly system.

DSA seems to think it can hijack said political machinery for socialist ends. I personally prefer a Dirty Break but critics of DSA have to explain why Socialist Party of America, Wallace's Progressive Party of America, Greens Party, Socialist Alternative failed that isn't repackaged MTWism.

>>2571064
Is that a generic 'you' or do you also need help in learning to read?

>>2570201
Kill yourself trccn

>>2571090
Stupid and smug question from a stupid and smug person.



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
< Bismarck & Lassalle Edition

🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
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🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
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>>2570702
TRVKE
Oppurtunist Leftypolians will try and tell you otherwise

>>2570493
>>2570492
>no argument

>>2570034
>"The police confiscated my fridge for looking at trans porn"
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>>2570814
I had a Korean chicken sandwich for the first time yesterday and this thing looks like doodoo in comparison. Personally I haven't eaten a chicken sandwich from an American fast food place since I discovered chicken cream chop. I mean >>2570974 just looks atrocious.

>>2571073
No argument to thing no one said, yes.

so what do you think happened in the closed-door meeting between mamdani and trump?



 

< The Small Pond of Big Egos Edition

💸🛥️Thread for swampy discussion of the Providence Plantation Patronage System and the smug, vineyard-vines-clad hypocrisy of the East Side Brahmins and their City Hall cronies.☕️⚓

<A state of grifters, for grifters. A nepotistic daycare run on coffee milk and Del's-induced comas. Your last name is your resume, your cousin is your job interview.


Rot in the Ocean State of decay, you parochial, small-pond princes of potholes. May your bridge collapse, your uncle at City Hall be indicted, and your Del's be forever watered-down.

>>2571068
Too intellectual and trccny

How do you feel that the most famous resident of your state is a cartoon character? I like Family Guy although I haven't watched it in a couple of years.



 

Can we talk about the new revelations about Noam Chomsky and Jeffrey Epstein?

>The prominent linguist and philosopher Noam Chomsky called it a “most valuable experience” to have maintained “regular contact” with Jeffrey Epstein, who by then had long been convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor, according to emails released earlier in November by US lawmakers.


>Such comments from Chomsky, or attributed to him, suggest his association with Epstein – who officials concluded killed himself in jail in 2019 while awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges – went deeper than the occasional political and academic discussions the former had previously claimed to have with the latter.


>Chomsky, 96, had also reportedly acknowledged receiving about $270,000 from an account linked to Epstein while sorting the disbursement of common funds relating to the first of his two marriages, though the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor has insisted not “one penny” came directly from the infamous financier.


>The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.


>Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails

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>>2571035
I will add, the reason to care about this, is because Chomsky is a well known public intellectual, who has influenced generations of leftists, and political science types. The fact that Chomsky had contacts with Epstein, brings into question Chomsky's entire political and moral character.

>>2571035
>1. Why was Epstein one Chomsky's contacts?
Because he was a fixer with connections to the state institution Chomsky is a member of.
Honestly the most interesting thing about the revelations is that they've made chomsky's connections to power very clear.
>>2571035
>Chomsky must have also known about Epstein's criminal allegations at the time [He reads after all]. And I believe he was asked about this in an interview, and his response was along the lines of some sort of higher principle of innocent until proven guilty.
It was worse than that, iirc, it was under the principle of 'a man who has served his time…' and etc.

He had an open Epstein connection for many years before this and I got banned once for posting it because the mods are dipshits. I believe the story was focused on Chomsky helping Epstein with some financial stuff, which he downplayed though now we know for sure he was covering his own ass.

>1. How could any principled anarchist be friends with a billionaire?

He was never principled. He was a staunch defender of the DNC which is inherently statist.

>2. I get that Chomsky radicalized a lot of American Gen Xers and Millennials.

Did he? Everyone I see that holds onto him are liberals. Even Foucault had a better knowledge of social relations under Capitalism than Chomsky. Saying bad things about Israel (low hanging fruit) doesn't make you a radical. The most radical thing he ever did was his uncritical defense of Pol Pot.

As an entry into radical politics, then yeah sure maybe I see your point. I just don't think enough people actually move beyond him. I feel like someone like Zizek has done way more for that and he gets endlessly criticized (by reactionary campists so who gives a fuck) unlike Chomsky.

>3. Was Chomsky always sus?

As I said, the Epstein connection was already known. I have no objective opinion of his linguistic system but I find it completely uninteresting and his attempts to fuse it with political theory to be right alongside astrology. I'm sure it's amazing in that field, which I know nothing about, but I know his attempts to branch it out like in his Foucault debate.

>4. How do you think Michael Parenti and Slavoj Zizek are taking this news?

No opinion on Parenti but I don't think Slavoj is going to really comment on it. Finklestein had a similar situation where a previous rival got exposed as a nonce-defender and he didn't really shove his nose into it. It's just a bad look.

>>2570854
>Can we talk about irrelevant shit
no
who the fuck cares. Chomsky work in linguistic and propaganda analysis is still good, and he isnt a political leader

>1. How could any principled anarchist be friends with a billionaire?

what kind of idiotic moralistic cunt think politics is some purity olympic forbidding relation with the upper classes ? was marx not a principled communist because he was bff with a bourgeois ?

>how will this stain his reputation?

again, who the fuck cares, he is almost dead anyway, and furthermore theres literally nothing incriminating in what you just posted. Yeah intellectuals often beg money to billionaires, nothing new

>Is this a case of "live long enough to be the villain"

no

>How do you think Michael Parenti and Slavoj Zizek are taking this news

who fucking cares, you're obsessed with isg tier eceleb drama bs

>>2571052
do you recall there was also a meeting he set up with ehud barak and chomsky?



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Oh no no no, ziobros

man I have been reading https://gitee.com/openharmony/docs/blob/master/en/application-dev/quick-start/start-with-ets-stage.md and I'm seriously considering porting the declarative ui thingy (or a subset of it) to wayland and x11. it's so much better than the new android ui api where they force you to use the sdk designer because they have completely given up on textual representation

>>2570916
two more weeks

>>2570211
>rural is more pro-cpc than the city dwellers according to harvard studies because they're seeing more rapid transformation in recent times.
Yeah, basic 19th century capitalist development with 21st century moral ideas. Good. But not socialism. And inevitable to fall into neoliberalism.

>>2570759
Yeah, I think any sane Japanese person would see what she did as a LARP. Japan posing a serious threat to China? Like come on dude lmao



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>>2570907
Shits falling for year…

>>2570922
Very nice, now send him to the front

>>2570924
Kiev has also technically been falling by nafo standards.

Mood status?

>>2570924
>Settlement invaded and conquered in around a month
>Already shouting <Settlement here> hodls! For a year prior
>Keep shouting it until literally Ukraine holds a single apartment block on the outskirts
<Once all of your troops have been vanquished, claim the settlement was never important
They can’t keep getting away with this!



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If fascisms is capitalist response to a mass organized communist movement, and Trump is arguably a fascist and pushing for fascism, where is the organized communist movement of our day?
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Fascism (Italian fascismo, from fascio — bundle, union, association) is a political movement that arose in capitalist countries during the period of the general crisis of capitalism and expresses the interests of the most reactionary and aggressive forces of the imperialist bourgeoisie. Fascism in power is the terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary forces of monopolistic capital, carried out with the goal of preserving the capitalist system. The most important distinguishing features of fascism are the use of extreme forms of violence to suppress the working class and all working people, militant anti-communism, chauvinism, racism, extensive use of state-monopolistic methods of regulating the economy, maximal control over all aspects of social and personal life, broad connections with a significant portion of the population not belonging to the ruling classes, and the ability—through nationalist and social demagogy—to mobilize and politically activate this population in the interests of the exploitative system (the mass base of fascism consists mainly of the middle strata of capitalist society). Fascist foreign policy is a policy of imperialist conquest.

The common features inherent in fascism as a political movement do not exclude the existence of various forms determined by the degree of predominance of political or militarist forces. The predominance of militarist forces is characteristic of military-fascist regimes.

>>2570929
In the struggle to create a mass social base, fascism put forward a system of views (the so-called fascist ideology), which made extensive use of reactionary doctrines and theories that had developed before its appearance (the racist ideas of J. A. de Gobineau, J. V. de Lapouge, H. Chamberlain, etc.; the anti-democratic concepts of F. Nietzsche and O. Spengler; antisemitism; geopolitics, pan-Germanism, etc.).

At the center of fascist ideology are the ideas of military expansion, racial inequality, “class harmony” (the doctrine of the “people’s community” and “corporatism”), leadership cult (“the Führer principle”), and the all-powerfulness of the state apparatus (the theory of the “total state”). These ideas found their most concentrated expression in Adolf Hitler’s book Mein Kampf (1925). A very significant characteristic of fascist ideology is loud demagogy aimed at masking its true content. Serving this goal, in particular, was the speculative use by fascists of the popularity of socialist ideas among the masses.

Emerging as a reaction to the revolutionary upsurge heralded by the Great October Socialist Revolution in Russia, fascism became a fierce and dangerous enemy of all progressive humanity and above all of the international revolutionary workers’ movement. The first fascist organizations appeared in spring 1919 in Italy in the form of paramilitary squads composed of nationalistically minded former frontline soldiers. In October 1922, the fascists—who had become a major political force—staged an armed “March on Rome,” which provided the ruling circles of Italy with a pretext for appointing the leader of the Italian fascists (“Duce”), Benito ᴉuᴉlossnW, as prime minister on 31 October 1922. Over the next four years, the fascist leadership gradually eliminated bourgeois-democratic freedoms and established the absolute power of the fascist oligarchy. In the 1930s Italy completed the creation of a corporate state, which contributed to the militarization of the Italian economy. The democratic trade-union movement and the economic and political gains of the working class were abolished. ᴉuᴉlossnW’s government pursued an increasingly active policy of imperialist expansion. In 1935 fascist Italy launched a war against Ethiopia, and after conquering it (1936) took part in the intervention against Republican Spain (1936–1939); in Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2570930
The German fascist National Socialist Party arose in 1919 (the official name — National Socialist German Workers’ Party — reflected the desire of its organizers to exploit the influence of socialist ideas among German workers in the interests of extreme reaction). Amid a deepening political crisis, relying on support from major monopolies and forming an alliance with influential circles in the Reichswehr leadership, the leader (“Führer”) of German fascists, Adolf Hitler, received a mandate to form a government in late January 1933. By staging the Reichstag fire and blaming the communists (see Leipzig Trial, 1933), the German fascists within a few months completely “synchronized” the country, unleashing bloody terror on all democratic and liberal currents, imprisoning and physically eliminating all real and potential opponents of the Nazi regime. After the Communist Party, the Social Democratic Party and all traditional bourgeois parties were banned. All public organizations—especially trade unions—were dissolved; parliament was stripped of its prerogatives; all forms of public oversight over the state administration were abolished. The dictatorship mechanism created by National Socialism included a terror apparatus marked by extreme brutality (SA, SS, the Gestapo, the “People’s Court,” and other organs of fascist justice), an apparatus for organizing influence on the population (the National Socialist Party, the National Socialist Women’s League, the Hitler Youth, the German Labor Front, the “Strength Through Joy” organization, etc.), which controlled all forms of public activity, as well as an apparatus for propaganda control of the masses (headed by the Ministry of Propaganda). In close alliance with the military leadership, Hitler's government carried out a rapid militarization of Germany. A course was immediately taken toward militarizing the economy, accompanied by the implementation of various forms of state-monopolistic regulation (state investments, primarily for military purposes; tax policy; credit policy and planned inflation; administrative control over economic development; forced syndicalization or cartelization of industry; creation of new associations of monopolists, etc.). International agreements limiting Germany’s armaments were broken, and a series of aggressive acts were carried out to strengthen the military-strategic positPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2528259
Trump isn't fascist. He is a liberal. ACP is fascist, and will become popular when the communist movement starts to grow.

>>2571043
Haz is the American ᴉuᴉlossnW.
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