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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<The Lustful Treatler Edition


>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
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🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
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>>2581873
>prolly it'll be another redlining policy, which will accentuate the income gaps between the already rich kids and the poor.
Correct.
Humorously they stated that the policy would be for families in neighborhoods with median income under 150k a year. So like
>segregated by neighborhood ✔
>means tested ✔
>inclusive of the high end of families ✔
and of course
>additional contributions (max 5k a month) are subject to discretionary stock distribution by the corporations

This is how they're reinventing white neighborhoods with special privileges.

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>>2581901
I wonder what those Black Cones are and what they do.

>>2581837
I guess

>>2581889
You also forgot to say they’re apart of international pedophile cabals

>>2581914
no they're not apart. they are a part of international pedophile cabals.



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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
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<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

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>>2581841
Additional layer of fuckery: Ethan Klein built his entire brand on doing reaction videos and was personally involved in the landmark legal case that ruled reaction videos are fair game.
https://www.copyright.gov/fair-use/summaries/hosseinzadeh-klein-sdny2017.pdf

>>2581879

10/10 Classic.

>Pedo_troll won
>Kaceytron apologized
>Hada and Snark lost
What a great day
>>2581841
Holy cope

>>2581735
lmao owned

>>2581745
>Because China suppresses its own domestic consumption, it must dump that excess production abroad. This forces other countries to run massive deficits and deindustrialize. China is essentially exporting unemployment and debt.
This thread is good stuff



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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

You must answer the question to make a new thread. See the last field.
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>>2581856
'The trots' are literally the ones who have secured collective leadership and everything good so far, but ok.

>>2581878
collective leadership is gay and means the party will be dysfunctional

Can't purchase violent, sexy or scary games on Steam in the UK anymore despite being an adult in my 30s, all because of the damn internet safety law.
Why is our government like this??

>>2581856
>After a weekend of despair i've decided your party is actually going to be cool we just need to struggle against Trots and such
based. Thinking of joining but want to let it all pan out and for the factions to form first, to know what i'm getting into and who to align with, so to speak.
>>2581878
for entirely self-interested reasons.

>>2581878
Collective leadership will mean little in reality, it was already ruled by committee, that committee was always going to end up elected.

More or less everyone wanted more democracy in the party, you didn't invent member lead calm down, all you did was introduce a back door to the swp with the dual carding thing.
>>2581913
nah mate if you're cool join now and start shouting loudly. There is a lot of whack stuff happening it needs to be challenge before it can procreate



 

HELIUM WE'RE RUNNING OUT 10-15 YEARS MAX ALL HELIUM ON EARTH GONE RARE GAS ALL GONE RARE MEDICAL USE DEATH DEATH HELIUM HELIUM GONE HELIUM 10-15 SOON WE'RE MESSED UP WE'RE MESSED UP THEY WASTED HELIUM HELIUM WASTED MEDICAL HELIUM TO COOL THE SUPERPOWERFUL MAGNETS FOR MRIS HELIUM HELIUM ONE OF THE COLDEST SUBSTANCES ON EARTH WHEN LIQUID IMPORTANT HELIUM TECHNOLOGY MEDICINE PHONES,TVS,COMOUTERS,TABLETS SOME REASON TO THANK HELIUM FOR IT JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES ALL INDUSTRIES NO HELIUM WE'RE GOING TO DIE WITHOUT HELIUM WE LOST DEVELOPMENT WE LOSE WE LOSE ALL EVERYONE LOST GONE DIE HELIUM WASTED HELIUM WASTED HELIUM WASTE 10-15 YEARS ALLLL ALLL OF HELIUM GONE MAJOR PROBLEM GLOBAL CRISIS HELIUM SAVE HELIUM SAVE HELIUM NO MORE HELIUM USE FOR BALOONS DO NOT DO NOOOOOOOOOT DO NOT
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>>2581160
The don't want us to know this, but helium comes from the inside the earths mantel and naturally bubbles up along fault lines. We have infinite helium.

>>2581160
it comes from natural gas as a byproduct. not mines.

Good. I hope we run out. If it leads to societal collapse all the better.
Communism isn't ever happening if we don't shake society up somehow, and this seems preferable to nuclear war.

>>2581610
It will only lead to less scientific advances

>>2581822
Correct. We need to stop the capitalists from wasting any more, and preserve whats left for advancements.



 

Doesn't the fact that CHINA has multiple STOCK exchanges, prove that its CAPITALIST? How do le elder scroll ones explain this? Even old turn of the century imperial germany was closer to socialism than modern day China.
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>>2581850
Actually the Bolsheviks were majority proletarian and the october revolution was a revolution of the peasants and proletarians, that's why their symbol has both a hammer and sickle on it. Unfortunately the USSR was eventually defeated and dissolved, but still they were the longest lasting and most advanced experiment in socialist construction, proletarian dictatorship and revolution in history.
Hope that clears things up for you <3

>>2581830
You should use opera instead of chrome or firefox as it is owned by a Chinese megacorp so all your data will be owned and sold by proletarian managers

I have a feeling that you can't be anti-dengist without critizicing all other Warsaw pact countries. Like East Germany, Czechoslovakia and Poland had firms that weren't publicly traded, but had join-stock ownership. For example the SDAG Wismut was a 50% German and 50% Soviet joint-stock company.

>>2581846
>Well it seems to be, i didn't bring in any personal arguments, it was you who brought up ego and whatever else. Unless you're saying it's my tone that brings in the ego, but I would say that's more of a you issue
>Hm yeah I mean you might be a super special boy who lives outside of history with his big brain that just takes in information and objectively analyzes it, who'd have been a marxist even if the bolsheviks didn't take power
Stop coping
>Im simply saying that it is Lenin and the Bolsheviks that popularized and made Marxism historically relevant, in actual history
And I am simply saying that’s egoistical Leninist bullshit
>They were only able to do this because Marxism is correct, independently of them
It was also popular and international independently of them.

>Idk I haven't been on 4chan in years

I find that hard to believe, but sure
>from what I remember they'd mostly just talk about how Marxism is a jewish thing
They do that too
>idk where this idea of yours comes from that 4channers are Leninists
That isn’t what i’m saying. It’s not an idea either. They this exact phrase:
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>>2581853
I agree
>>2581861
>Actually the Bolsheviks were majority proletarian
The leadership was, support was not.
>and the october revolution was a revolution of the peasants and proletarians
leaning peasants.



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>55.8% of the respondents say the Communist state itself was also good.

>66.2% of Romanians believe Communist leader Nicolae Ceaușescu was a "GOOD LEADER"


Any opinions?
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MLibs be posting this not knowing that the average age there is 60 and people tend to miss their youth

It only proves nationalist illusions about le glorious past they had under that socdem monarchy

>>2579947
>leftcom regurgitating unironic anticommunist counterarguments
no contradiction

>>2579947
>It's just nostalgia!! These things can only be explained by my essentialist pseudo psychoanalysis of boomers
Lol and you have the gall to call others libs

>>2579947
>Old who Lived under socialism:Its nostalgia
>young who has a positive view: you dont know your history
Also Ceaușescus popularity is in the youth as well to the point the Romanian government is clamping down on it. Look at this anti-commie burger get upset about some young university students saying positive things about the socialist period. These are supposed to be the most pro-EU

>>2580550

>If you are poor: You are envious.

>If you are rich: You are a hypocrite.
>If you don't have a don't have a degree: You are ignorant.
>If you do have a degree: You are disconnected/utopian.

Anyone care to add to the list? Maybe:

>If you are an incel: You are bitter.

>If you have big family: You had too many kids.
>If you are a worker in the public sector: You are entitled.
>If you are a worker in the private sector: You are resentful and/or lack entrepreneurship.



 

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>Third Heaven Edition

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>>2581631
because the pink tide failed to address the problems of wealth inequality. they could ride the commodity boom wave to avoid the problems of the 2008 financial crises but when the boom ended they were left in a rut. The latam lumpenbourgeoise no longer benefited in helping conciliatory social democrats now that there was a profitablity crises.

>>2577798
>They already have all the SAM sites mapped out and even those in bunkers since they have been using starlink and palantir to track locations of vehicles around venezuela
what if their data is dogshit?
> I truly hate the way war is conducted in the west. No honor, no heroic fight,
why would the ruling class be "honorable" or "heroic" in its desperate scramble to maintain imperialism? The point is to be as ruthless and sociopathic as possible. Not to make things "fair" or "honorable." The entire purpose is to keep things as unfair as possible for as long as possible, so that they can die in their bunkers at the age of 150 in their medbeds with their sex slaves gathered around them after the surface has been made uninhabitable by climate change.

>No honor, no heroic fight, just turkey shoot police operations. Fucking shit show. I wish america fought wars like russia, with massive casulaties and manliness


I'll go to jail before I do a damn thing for uncle sam

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>>2581827
>The point is to be as ruthless and sociopathic as possible. Not to make things "fair" or "honorable."
It's why they're in this mess in the first place. They want an empire, but have zero intention to actually go and do what it takes, forgetting what it took to carve one out. In a way, no other empire declined, like the American one. They didn't even seriously fight for their hegemony, it was just handed to them.

>>2581639
>Iraq is not degenerate country like Japan or Russia, they watch no porn



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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2578247
>>2578320
yeah well welfare has nothing to do with communism

>>2578601
everyone is still gonna vote Democrat because 3 years is not enough time to establish a workers party that can get to that stage.
Maybe some local elections some small socialist parties can get but that's where you start.

>>2575810
Any idiot with a discord account or a minecraft server can "create community", and they'll doubtless create a more meaningful one than "small circle of historical losers licking their wounds over world-historic organizing blunders, relitigating debates from 20 years ago over and over and over again, pausing only for the occasional funeral"

>>2575824
2017 called and wants their take back
Pretty much every idpol stereotype group has drifted leftwards to class-based demands, even if they're naturally still focused on how it benefits their group specifically. The girlboss feminist has been dead for longer than she was alive, and so far as she and all the other idpol bogeymen were ever alive, their existence is the product of capitalists responding to bottom-up pressure for social justice rather than applying top-down machinations of their own free will. A university does land acknowledgements because it's cheaper than giving the land back, yes, but it also does them because someone is demanding they do something. One winds up with a very wrongheaded view of the world if they misinterpret (largely failed) co-option for creation.
(And because it failed, you see the present administrative backlash against all these groups! They gave the proles some carrot stickers for their laptop, that wasn't enough, now they're going to try and beat them down with the stick until they remember their place.)

>>2576279
More than half of Americans have an associates degree or higher, and nearly 40% have a bachelors or higher. This gets even more aggressive as you account for age.
And America's on the lower end. Having a degree is incredibly common thanks to the massive expansion of higher education to cover up youth unemployment, and one of the markers of the fundamental unseriousness of the "serious" left is that they continue to fetishise the aesthetic of the high-school educated factory worker in an economy which has made that stereotype about as relevant as the cowboy.
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>>2578183
Pay reparations to CSA survivors.

Social media has normalized self-righteousness and turning your entire personality into a brand centring around “I’M SUCH A MORAL PERSON”. Don’t bother with recruiting the self-righteous do-nothings.



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