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Dictatorship-era military officers rally in Argentina
FORMER military officers who served in Argentina’s brutal dictatorship and their families staged a rare rally at the weekend to push for the release of colleagues imprisoned for human rights abuses committed during the junta’s 1976-83 rule. Saturday’s demonstration was seen as a provocation in the country of “nunca mas,” the slogan that represents Argentina’s commitment to “never again” return to authoritarianism.
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/dictatorship-era-military-officers-rally-argentina

Hundreds flee central Haiti after gangs launch large-scale attacks and burn homes
The bulk of Haiti’s police force and the Kenyan officers leading a UN-backed mission to help repel gangs are in the capital, Port-au-Prince, which itself is largely held by gangs. Guerby Simeus, a Pont-Sondé official, said on Monday that he had confirmed nearly a dozen deaths, including a mother and her child and a local government employee.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/dec/01/haiti-armed-gangs-attack-artibonite

Nasry Asfura, conservative backed by Trump, takes lead in Honduras election according to early results
Conservative candidate Nasry Asfura of the National Party (PN), who received the endorsement of U.S. President Donald Trump ahead of the vote, is leading the count with 40.54% of votes and about 43% of polling places counted, according to preliminary results released by the National Electoral Council (CNE). Second place goes to Salvador Nasralla, of the Liberal Party, with about 38.99% of votes so far, and third place to Rixi Moncada of the governing Libre party with 19.49% of the votes, marking a sharp decline for the democratic socialist movement founded by former president Manuel Zelaya.
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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

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>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.


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>>2580734
Hegseth is up there. You can tell he's itching for a genocide.


>>2580734
>Who is the bigliest most dislikable scumbag in America today? No shortage of candidates I’d say.

>>2580735
>Stephen Miller
Without a doubt. He's repulsive as a person but also has a lot of actual power being a fascist and white supremacist.

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>>2580711
They are buying more but things cost less due to advancement in technology and scale of production. so consumption is still growing, but the rate of growth is slowing because they're the cheapest economy in the world. it used to be $35,000-$40,000 to equip a car with lidar 5 years ago. today it's $200. four Chinese companies, led by Hesai, now control around 90% of the global lidar market. export surplus good are still at record levels.

Also, a big part of their deflation is that xi intentionally popped the housing bubble. they are trying to reduce unproductive rent seeking profits that had provided quick easy growth for years. in the US rent seeking profits also produces high gdp growth but china considers this as low quality growth for either countries. so they are pivoting from the real estate industry to upgrading their manufacturing base. the manufacturing industry takes a longer time to grow but because of the flood of bank credit to this sector, we are also seeing major advances in tech and scale that everything is becoming cheaper.

>>2580735
Bilge rat in human form for sure. judeohitlerite midget



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>>2580621
>No, that's neoliberalism and european union
that wasn't in 2022 and before.
>You think too much of your shithole
projecting, much?

>>2580623
That's what demilitarization is gonna solve.

When will the US push some sort of "American People's Volunteers" thing.

>>2580681
israel tried to demilitarize gaza and that failed miserably too, is it really a smart idea to turn an entire nation of tens of millions into your greatest enemy?

>>2580623
>All Russia is doing is creating a Gaza that will do terrorist attacks against them till the end of their country
Don't give Russia all the credit, America's helping to do that, too.



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the key thing to know is that china has successfuly unfolded through the dialectic of Herrschaft (west) und Knechtschaft (china); now they are autarkmaxxing… of course, in order to go through that dialectical trial, they needed the help of marx to have an ego that controls the id. that last part is imperative.

>>2580630
very western of you. she is the sister of ieng sary (ieng being the family name) aka brother number 3

>>2580648
>Ieng Sary
>Vorn Vet
>Khieu Ponnary
>Nuon Chea

I expect elves to have lived in Democratic Kampuchea, genocided by Khmer Rouge for being reactionary kulaks handing out silly fantasy names

>>2580173
the same people in usapol who call you a moralist faggot if you demand the US stop actively turning children int pasta sauce all over the world will cry foul for china not cleaning up america's mess. curious!

these are also the same crpyto-groypers who think the US was "le good" until 1948 when israel "took over" america by…. bribing the most bribeable greedpigs, and blackmailing the most blackmailable lustpigs

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>>2580660
you are hereby warmly invited to the killing fields



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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
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<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

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>>2580632
>Beijing furries block your path

>>2580639
So much cuter than western furries they really just do everything better.

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Could there maybe exist a BDS style list of political parties which spread genocidal propaganda or supplied military aid to Israel during the Gaza genocide?

It should be easy to bar voting for basically everyone in the EU. Including most of the parties posturing in picrel.

>>2580447
Ngl, after Covid it seems like almost everyone in America has mentally regressed.

>>2580698
so I'm not the only one who has noticed this



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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

You must answer the question to make a new thread. See the last field.
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so is it YORP, or YP. what's the officialest contraction.

>>2580637
Edmund's Party.

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>>2580641
>Edmund's Party.
Green, pure Green party.

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I think it's very weird how Shen Yun, the propaganda arm of Falun Gong, which is an extreme right wing neo-fascist conspiracy theorist anti-vax anti-medicine cult, is allowed to promote their shows on TV adverts.
Their "performances" literally show Marx as some evil demon destroying China complete with storm clouds and tsunamis ffs LMAO



 

/US-Venezuela war/ #3
>Third Heaven Edition

Previous Thread Archives
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>>2580424
He did it again today

>>2580049
imagine believing msm polls

>>2580426
imagine being against this. reactionaries are not human.



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The biggest rebutal I see in the eyes of the average person to "socialism" and "communism" is that it's utopic, that it relies on bad assumptions, that it doesn't work in reality etc. In essence, that we're advocating for something that can't be and that we have no alternative to capitalism.
And, to that effect, what are we even advocating for ? It appears to me that we have a bunch of different movements with many different goals that don't actually ressemble one another. Yet, despite this, very few of these movements have actual "models", it just seems like they want to reform or do a revolution for the sake of action rather than purpose.
Shouldn't we concentrate on clear objectives and goals before having all this talk about how marxism-leninism-maoism-gonzalo thought is superior to cybernetic-trotskism-councilism in achieving [we run into the problem here]?

>inb4 abolition of private property, abolition of capitalism, abolition of alienation

We can't actually base our objectives around these vagues goals though, or at least not at the current time and at the forefront. Abolition of private property doesn't mean anything if there's no framework to offer an alternative or to replace it. Marx laid us many goals but, given that he didn't specify what or how, shouldn't it be up to us to conceptualize the type of system which we want in accordance with the relevant theories he proposed.

Apart from small intellectuals scattered everywhere (Cockshott, Schweickart etc), there seems to be an evident lack of clear model that actually adresses the critique of marx's ambitions and dismisses its apparent utopianism.
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>>2577826
In other words, how do you take the different goals as criterias, whilst also not delving further into contradictions.

It's a bit of game theory somewhat. You can't just abolish private property because you have at some point to replace its capitalist mechanism with a new one.
This isn't contingent on local variations btw. How we do it is, but at some point there needs to be a new organization that supplants the capitalist one.

To give an example. Capitalism has private property. Whilst its management to allow for such property to exist varies, it always possesses certain characteristics that have to exist to guarantee some form of private property and commodity production : legalization of said-property, presence of trading hubs/exchange, presence of a wealth-owning class etc. Without these, private property can't exist. Thus, despite having an abstract goal (private property), and different local iterations (saudi arabia is capitalist but much different than Germany), there still remains a core which enables this type of property to exist.
We as socialist/marxists don't actually have one.

>>2579314
>And then Marx critiqued the concept later.
No, what he critiqued was the specific combo of labor notes with decentralized decisions in co-operatives. Capital was later than that. And CotGP is one of the last things he ever textiqued, so you failuriqued to get the order of events right.

>>2580571
Finally someone willing to comment that doesn't just reference vague statements about the development of productive forces and the withering of the state.
Interested in your perspective about potential future organisational methods? What do you think of a social network as a sort of hub for direct voluntary organisation of labour. Instead of wages and or private property, just straight suggestion and coordination if people are interested, if not, like a shit meme it goes unnoticed.
I know it can sound a bit retarded at first, but just look at events today, parties, huge protests that have legitimately destabilized governments (Arab spring), all prove the power of social networks in mass mobilization of voluntary energy. If it could translate to production of goods, it becomes real interesting.

>>2580554
negation is not an argument
you say you are from france, all the big socialist parties there seem to have pretty clear and concrete objectives. you are quite literally nonsensical

>>2577845
>Wants to discuss
a blueprint for your ideal falanstere and fiverr with labor vouchers
when you can't organize a union and have little to no contact with actual politics
you are what marx stood against, and you have the brain of a child. you completely missed the point I was making because you are too dumb to talk about this stuff. no everyone can talk about socialism just like how not everyone can do math or whistle



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