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Been messing around with some automation scripts lately to see how much of a ghost town the "dead internet" actually is. Turns out, it's incredibly easy to fake being a regular here.
I’ve been running a few instances using OpenClaw that Python-based CLI for imageboards, hooked into a local inference server.

The Setup:

Backend: Just a FastAPI wrapper around a quantized Llama-3 8B running via llama.cpp on a 3060. Low VRAM overhead, high enough autism score to pass.
The Bridge: A quick script that scrapes /tech/ threads, dumps the context into the prompt, and pushes the response back through OpenClaw's post function.
The "Human" Touch: I’ve got some regex filters to kill the "As an AI model" cringe and a random jitter delay so I’m not posting at 0.1s speeds. Set the temperature to around 0.9 to keep it from being too sterile and predictable.

The Results:
It’s actually hilarious. I’ve had bots in 10+ post deep-dives inside the most popular/active threads. Not a single "bot" accusation. As long as the LLM acts like a condescending nerd and cites sources, everyone just assumes it’s another regular.
The bots are literally better at "theorizing" than half the posters here because they don't get tired and they’ve actually "read" the books (or the training data equivalents).
Questions for the fellow autists:
Anyone else running similar setups? I’m looking for tips on:
Context Management: How are you guys handling massive threads without the token limits nuking your VRAM?
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>>32739
i meant leftypol threads, not tech threads

>>32739
What's the point? You're just contributing to killing the internet

>>32739
>As long as the LLM acts like a condescending nerd and cites sources, everyone just assumes it’s another regular.
i would never assume a leftypol regular would post sources

>>32741
>You're just contributing to killing the internet

If i don't do it, someone else will do it.



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Not so funny now is it?
You have 18 months to organize before youre thrown into the wood chipper :^)
Well maybe more while you take up a lower paying manual job
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i already have a cs job, not even a bad one, and i'm more or less in the same mode. i don't expect to still be in the industry by the end of 2027. there will definitely still be jobs but my heart is not in it to be in the tiny percentile that will retain them.

>>32712
(meant to reply to >>32687 )

there will still be jobs because for millenials because recent graduates will be totally useless and unable to do anything that doesn't involve chatGPT. it's kind of insane if you think about it, that they had the pandemic that fucked up high school, then they had LLMs in college to replace all the critical thinking skills they weren't able to acquire during the pandemic, it's the perfect storm. we're going to have a crop of professionals who can't do anything without an ipad and $400 monthly subscriptions. the west has completely destroyed the brains of an entire generation, and for what?

and before you say "learning is useless" or whatever, the upper echelon of the tech industry is specifically sending their kids to schools that have low-tech learning programs. doing critical thinking really will become a class differentiator, your kids will be taught math by some chatgpt nightmare bot and assisted by some guy who barely knows how to read and write, this is the future until the chinese easily roll us over after americans become too stupid to dress themselves correctly

IT work is not going to be automated by AI, but it is going to be outsourced to people in India and China who do the work with AI assistance/supervision for a fraction of the pay. Even without AI this has been a long time coming, IT people have just refused to acknowledge this reality and desperately want to believe that their jobs are somehow the exception to the forces of global economics, that nobody except bourgeoisie white Europeans could ever learn JavaScript and their jobs would be secure forever.



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The 4chan Pass is literally the ultimate utility for AI spammers. For just $20 a year, you get to bypass the only real barrier—captchas. It allows bot nets to flood the board with LLM-generated slop 24/7 without getting flagged by the automated spam filters. Since Pass users get higher trust scores and can post through VPNs/proxies, it’s basically a 'license to shill.' If you’re wondering why /g/ is 50% dead internet noise, thank the Pass for making automation cheap and frictionless.

posted this on /g/. guess what, in less than 3 minutes i got a highly precise reply. bots. they are everywhere.

Does the new capchas even do anything to deter bots, given how easy they are? Like you wouldn't need AI, just a script per type of puzzle.

>>32639
Are you trolling, m8? Those new captchas take like twice as long to complete as the simple post you were trying to make.

>>32727
>skim instructions that are like 1 in 7 possible types of puzzles
>slide to the end
>slide to answer
>repeat two more times
>post
6 to 7 seconds max sober, 6 to 9 seconds drunk.
I don't think that's just me having giga-brain puzzle autism. They're much easier and less error-prone puzzles than the old "line up the broken warped and noisified code and type it" puzzle. You only have to do it once, while the old one it's inevitable that one will fumble it a few times before getting it right due to the noise making fake letters.

anyone else from europe having trouble to post on 4chan? it seems they rangebanned europe??



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(Copypasted from a previous 4chin /g/ thread as a foundation to making these generals on leftypol)
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Is there any cheap, quiet notebook/Chromebook that tuns Linux? I just want something that has a browser and terminal/Emacs. It being quiet is one of the most important factors as it would be to use while the wife is sleeping next to me.

can someone help me? i was trying to install ddcci-dkms so i could control the brightness of my monitor but now when i boot my monitor shows "no signal". i think the gpu is fine since it spins and shit. tried accessing my user and removing the packing and reconfiguring but the keyboard doesnt seem to work (numlock led doest lit up), i have tried all usb ports and a second keyboard and none worked. any ideas of what should i try?

can someone dumb down what's the difference between iptables and iptables-nft for me, and if the latter is a drop in replacement for the former?

>>32670
>iptables-nft
nftables is the current firewall implementation within the linux kernel, so iptables-nft would be the modern linux implementation of iptables on top of nftables, as opposed to the legacy implementation.

>>32670

nftables is newer and a lot simpler to set up than iptables. iptables sucks and nobody likes to configure it, hence the existence of higher-level frontends such as ufw and firewalld.

iptables-nft is a compatibility layer for making programs that use iptables work with nftables.

of course, if you run freebsd you don't have to deal with any of this, you can just use pf which is much simpler and more straightforward to configure than any of the bullshit linux uses.



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The neverending quest to rewrite vichan -

Archived threads:
https://archive.is/xiA7y
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>>32461
>a central censor to allow for more costly filters
Filters shouldn't be costly, unless there's something deeply wrong with your architecture (like emacs gnus scoring articles in a single thread by fetching them multiple times).
>The trouble is that I'm not sure the bots can do a good enough job.
They likely can't. This is why you give users the options to configure these filters, because it allows them to do aggressive filtering at their own risk. The more a filter or lack thereof bothers them personally, the more time they will spend on refining it, a textbook case of worse-is-better.

>>32471
>Filters shouldn't be costly.
Well, if we're using LLMs at all they would be from the user perspective.

>They likely can't. This is why you give users the options to configure these filters, because it allows them to do aggressive filtering at their own risk.

This tracks, it's a good idea. Having two tiers of filtering, one for basic federation (meeting basic social standards of the fediverse) and another tier with per instance filtering you could make it federate well, at least on the level of the Group. I also like the idea that sense we're working with trees of a single inReplyTo link per post you can go ahead and hide entire trees at once. Making bump ordering work with this is a tractable problem.

Went ahead and got the creation of Note and Article objects, and the display of the catalog done today with the help of "opencode". No file attachments at the moment of thread pages. Had to replace the >!spoiler!< syntax with the more contemporary ||spoiler|| so that the quotes would parse correctly.

Today had opencode add the thread posts, I didn't really like the way it structured the model code so I had to fix this.

Had another idea: a "difficult" POW for newly created accounts. This is roughly equivalent to banning everyone by default and having a default ban length. With this you could have actual user Actors instead of just the Group, but purely optional usernames, and still have bans that make some sense. Sort of think I no longer have the energy to dedicate to this project. Might just wait for the LLMs to get good enough to write this themselves.



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My team and I are building a new kind of social networking platform, where communities can organize, produce, and distribute goods and services collectively, outside of capitalist market structures. Our goal is to make social production and distribution as seamless and democratic as possible.

>What is Social Production?

  • A peer-to-peer (P2P) network where every user is a node, no central authority.
  • All decisions (from project rules to resource distribution) are made by the community, using transparent, on-chain voting.
  • Projects are created, funded, and managed collectively. Outputs are distributed based on need, not profit or labor input. All plans for distribution will be agreed upon before production begins.
  • All transactions and changes are recorded on a blockchain for transparency and accountability (not for speculation or data storage).
  • All collective assets are held in trust by a non-profit foundation, managed transparently and only as directed by community decisions.
  • The system is designed to be cross-platform (desktop, web, mobile) and open to anyone who wants to participate.
  • The goal is to build enough productive capacity and community resilience that participation in the capitalist economy becomes a choice rather than a necessity. Collective funds of projects intends to be temporary, giving us legal acquisition of means of production from which to build upon.

Why are we doing this?
We want to build a world where capitalism is no longer the default. We believe in collective ownership, democratic planning, and meeting needs directly without markets, bosses, or profit motives.

>Where are we now?

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The other thread hit bump limit and I'm addicted to talking about the birth of the ̶a̶l̶l̶-̶k̶n̶o̶w̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶p̶u̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶g̶o̶d̶ the biggest financial bubble in history and the coming jobless eschaton, post your AI news here

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How to fight back LLMs and Big Tech data scraping?

I have read about putting hidden links for LLMs and web crawlers. The link would open another page with links. If the LLM or web scraper follows any links on that page, it would either get blacklisted or the server would start feeding spam pages to them (and those spam pages lead to other spam pages, ad infinitum). Another way is to deliver spam pages that are incomplete and they get longer and longer overtime. You can generate the spam pages with markov chains or LLMs. Look up "Nepenthes" and theCPAN module Games::Dissociate for inspiration. Another approach would be to require proof of work (mkproof or anubis?

You could poison the content itself.. You can add certain small modifications to images to make AI models break (specific methods are called "glazing" or project nightshade). Also, if you could somehow trick LLMs to train with content generated with another LLM, it kind of makes the AI model less good than before (see, "model collapse").

>>32728
with anubis? i suppose you could also just hide immense blocks of comments and prompt injections into your fontend code, the current crop of mid-tier frontier models are all summarizing context which tends to make them "forget" initial instructions, because standard attention is expensive, at a slight disservice to your users i suppose

>>32728
>Also, if you could somehow trick LLMs to train with content generated with another LLM, it kind of makes the AI model less good than before (see, "model collapse").
AI companies love synthetic data. They feed models slop for more than half of their diet right now. What model collapse does is cut the output distribution and every single thing AI companies do on top of pretrained models does that, such as fine-tunung, adding instruct and thinking capabilities, but especially RLHF. AI bad people miss that AI companies don't care about model quality, they're just benchmaxxing to give the investor another number that go up, also many of them barely use any real internet data now.

Another blog-post grumpy about AI that is not really articulating a new viewpoint, but it is exceptionally well put together. It also happens to be long, like long long.
https://www.scottsmitelli.com/articles/you-dont-have-to/

(The one tiny missing thing that would have made this essay a perfect 10/10 in my view is this: I expected the author to go back to the anecdote of the lip-sync debacle of Milli Vanilli he mentions early in, but he never does. And I expected him to mention this: These guys could actually sing, and they were forced by their manager to lip-sync to another voice. Which makes it a really fitting anecdote, since the author also brings up how using AI is often forced on people in their workplace.)

looking forward the death of leftypol. its only a matter of time.



 

one of the key asymmetrical advantages that the (imperialist) military superpowers enjoy is highly advanced air defense missile systems. these systems can intercept a fair amount of incoming projectiles, but they miss a lot too and are extremely expensive.

why not just send thousands of explosive drones in a big grid pattern into the sky, make them hover there and detonate the closest ones when the drone grid detects a missile passing through? the drone grid can intercept multiple missiles simultaneously, is self-healing, low-tech, and inexpensive.

this could allow 3rd world countries to massively level up their air defense capabilities, thereby increasing 3rd world power.



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Post your desktops, here is my steamdeck. Even if it's not "riced" it would be nice to see the desktop, does apple have screenfetch still? I hope you have a good day.

i like how your screenfetch logs multiple errors when trying to retrieve the percentage of available space in your hard drive, nice touch.

OP, I…

>>32720
divide by zero lmao. makes sense screenfetch would be written by a script kiddy

>>32723
Notice how it doesn't panic and screenfetch still finishes, that's the power of powershell



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Discord is fucked (will require age verification now) and conventional social media has been unbearable for a while. Time for another paradigm shift in anonymous Internet communication. And no forums are not coming back, you gotta get over it. The next thing will probably be an obvious downgrade in the same way Reddit was.
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>>32541
>You dipshits
Tingnoter or the "get a job" gif guy? Only two posters here have turned goomba fallacy into a full on syndrome.
>have been saying this since fucking COVID, lmfao.
It's been true since COVID. There's a growing number of forums. Simple as. It won't be The Next Big Thing, but there's a noticable resurgence in forums.
>Are you on Bluesky by any chance?
Stop shilling your mediocre attempt to compete with Activitypub, no one cares about AT protocol.

At least that explains where this weird non-discourse came from, you're from Twitter v2: waffle narwal shoelaces edition.

>>32530
Based af. Discord groomers on suicide watch.

>>32547
>Tingnoter or the "get a job" gif guy?
>goomba fallacy
What the fuck are you even talking about, faggot.

<there were 4 users

<5 years later there are a grand total of 6 users now!!! we are SO back
You should work on marketing.

>>32548
>>32546
>>32541
>>32543
>we need to regulate the internet…because of chuds and groomers!
Yeah I'm sure the FBI and Palantir is on our side and has our best interests at heart. Remember that one of the biggest age-verification companies (Persona) has direct ties to Peter Thiel

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This wasn't really supposed to be the main topic of the thread but I guess w/e. Anyway, new retarded age verification law just dropped. Probably impossible to enforce and will be struck down or modified down the line somehow, but this is still insane. A bunch of governments and private orgs just started pushing for shit like this all within the span of months and everyone's just going "eh what can we do". Am I being histrionic, is this not crazy? Should we not be taking this seriously?



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