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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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drop them PDFs, we will rebuild edition
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Everytime you visit /edu/, post in this thread. Tell us about what you're thinking about, what you're reading, an interesting thing you have learned today, anything! Just be sure to pop in and say hi.

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Around the 29 minute mark Peterson criticizes Marx and Engel's for assuming that workers would magically become more productive once they took over.

This actually happened historically, most of the actually effective productivity tricks work places use now were developed by Stakhanovites.

https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1936-2/year-of-the-stakhanovite/year-of-the-stakhanovite-texts/stalin-at-the-conference-of-stakhanovites/
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Nothing new to me since I’ve already read the book, but I still found this to be a helpful guide for understand biology and evolution.



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Post Copy pastas, videos and books which debunk common Fascist, Liberal talking points which are repeated often.
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THE VIDEO OF HILLARY CLINTON COMPLAINING ABOUT CHINA BEING A TOP-DOWN CONTROLLED ECONOMY PLEASE



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I'm new to continental philosophy, to me continental sound just aphorisms and sophistry, and nothing with actual substance to say, but I'm open minded and curious to know if I'm wrong or continental philosophy actually has value, so what some good introduction books to continental SLOPPA?
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>>25155
>no scientist uses dialectics waah
Rotflma
Gould, punctuated equilibrium

So, Continental Sloppa is irrelevant to socialism theory, bros?

>>25156
>this scientist believed in le holy science of dialectical materialism ergo he used dialectics
by this logic catholic scientists used catholicism to do analysis too
engels' dialectics of nature was bullshit too btw

>>25157
its plenty relevant considering socialism is the bourgeois ideology in opposition to communism

>>25158
>no scientist used, no not that one

Continental philosophy is just philosophy, whereas analytic philosophy more generally refers to a specific methodological approach and system of logic which, by its own constraints, can only describe a specific portion of consciousness and reality. It's unfair and generally incorrect to think of the divide as being incompatible (see: Wittgenstein). As for where to start, it really depends on what you're interested in. I think everything still basically begins and ends with Plato, but if you're interested in aesthetics (which I think the "Continental tradition" is unquestionably better equipped to detail), reading Spinoza, Henri Bergson, Gaston Bachelard, and Merleau-Ponty would be fun for you. In terms of critique, there's still no replacement for Hegel and Adorno, although I think Heidegger's essays are also essential texts



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ITT post information about the history and anthropology of the New World. A lot of new anthropological work has been done in this field in recent decades that has not yet entered public consciousness.
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New ArchaeoEd video. The topic is the Ancestral Pueblo.


New Ancient Americas video discussing the Eastern Agriculture Complex ie that time the ancestors of Mississippians developed agriculture independently of Mesoamerica and the Andes but later most of these agricultural crops were replaced by Mesoamerican imports, including the king of crops, maize.

>>25250
I think it's interesting to see how a region of the world could develop agriculture but not "progress" into high civilization like Mesoamerica or the Andes.
Could the crops have something to do with it? Were they not as efficient or nutritious as stuff like maize, amaranth, quinoa or potatoes?
The intensification of maize agriculture into the eastern woodlands seems to coincide with the development of Mississippian civilization. Could they have been on their way to develop as much as Mesoamerica and the Andes when Europeans came? That would've been pretty interesting since the area is quite large and has vert navigable rivers. Would there have been eventual direct contact with Mesoamerica? So many lost possibilities.

New ArchaeoEd video. Topic is Ancestral Pueblo religion.



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The Rate of Profit: Rising or Falling?

Recently discovered there is a debate within Marxist economics that Marx had it incorrect, rather than rate of profit falling, due to capitalist technological innovation, cost-cutting and wage stagnation the Rate of Profit will rise, theorized by marxist economist Nobu Okishio.

Your thoughts?
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>>16630
Thank you for rare theory post


>>16630
Can't this tendency just be counteracted by producing a vast amount of new non-capital producing sectors and a ton of consumer junk?




 

How do we arrive to that point? Most courses can be found completely online and free of costs, and they are far better explained than most universities. There must be a way to give equal to everyone.
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Education needs to b discerned.
Not all academic fields are equally valuable.
The problem with education is that's it's currently anti blue collar/anti worldly an hostile to non-liberal ideas

>>25284
Education should be backed up by real-world application

We should have student going on real world assignments about their career aspiratios

The entire point of education is to instill inequality. By making education free, it reinforces whatever class system or preferred institutions, thus making the very idea of gatekeeping with wealth or money possible. One of the purposes of education is to teach people of a class system that has no reason to actually exist. At its core, all class systems reduce to some system where there is a lowest class that must be excluded at all costs, and that class is usually punished and shamed severely for the crime of existing. Education's primary function is to establish permanently that lowest class so that society is morally educated to reject them.
Every effort to make education free is designed to expand the definition of that lowest class, to impose further screening and humiliation, and to harden a given regimentation of society. Making education expensive is just another way of filtering and justifying the class system, since education is a tax extracted to gain membership in society at some rung.

If however you wanted the products you think are useful from education, you only have one course of action: stop lying about the nature of human society and human beings. Humans will never have a just and equal society free of class distinctions unless they really set out to make one and ask why this happened. Most humans will reject any such equality to the bitter end, and it is not a given that such a condition is even the goal. The lowest class does not want equality with a society that has always ritually sacrificed them. The lowest class wants to leave that society permanently, seeing it correctly as a menace to avoid at all costs. A tribal, primitive society is no better for the lowest class than civilization. Most of humanity really isn't motivated by equality or justice in that way, even. Usually the aim of the valid is to attain and keep some part of the world that allows them to exist without being tortured.

So if you really wanted to promote a virtuous education for the broad masses, you would start by making it clear that home life is home. You would not have school teachers invading the home with insane charges. They would not snatch children and chop up their brains. Children would not be subjected to anything like the torture regime. If they want to declare children incapable of learning, just send them home. That's what they always wanted to do, but they insisted on making a public example purely for the sake of torture, becaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>25332
What an esoteric post. I just don't get how learning Newtonian physics would result to everything you've said.


>>25333
Learning is not education. I can learn on my own time about Isaac Newton, but none of that is education. Education is not the act of the student, but the teacher's admission of that student's knowledge and proof to society. I can think and know whatever I want, but if I am not socially valid, nothing I say or think matters. I can say the truth until my face is blue and they'll just say "retarded" until I give up. In this manner, humanity has continued throughout its recorded history. This never can change. The only thing that can change is that other humans ask themselves if this is the society they want. Education has nothing to do with meritocracy or technocracy, in any way that requires education to be anything else. Education is at its core an aristocratic function, and it is in some sense an act of labor. The lowest class as a rule is barred from education, which is exactly my point. No one cares if a retard thoroughly understands where Newton came from. A retard is always retarded, forever. That is the rule.



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What the fuck are they? Every time a Marxist attempts to explain them it's like a Haskell programmer attempting to explain Monads.
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>>25264
The real tell that someone is a midwit, through and through, by the way, is aversion to philosophy.

Outmoded pseudoscience that was discredited as unscientific pig swill over a century ago, yet ideologues and poseurs continue to talk about dialectics in the year 2025 because they think being a leftist means accepting everything Marx and Engels ever wrote as irrefutable gospel truth.

>>25271
Ah yes let me just apply Marxism without dialectics
Let me just brush my bald head
Let me just run this marathon without my legs
etc.
Calling it 'pseudoscience', when it never existed as an object of scientific enquiry, but instead as a method, instantly exposes that you don't know what you're talking about.

>>25255
Nah, most of the philosophers are reasonable enough. It's when the Hegeloids come along that they become insufferable. It's weird to me because if people did understand Plato's system, this idea of obsessive formalism is not the point. The Demiurge is a clearly imperfect fashioner of the universe as we know it. This was transformed into "study these and only these forms as we tell you do and do not dare think for a moment".

>>25271
Tbf it only became pseudoscience when it was used by people as a clumsy positivist thing, which is not what dialectic is useful for. The other funny thing is that ideology only took off after the basis for making ideology a thing was proven wrong, so much that a lot of Marxists were thinking history and revolution did not work that way at all and wanted to go back to the drawing board.



 

Holy shit if you actually read these guys they're straight-up ancaps and fascists. They're all small-government nationalists obsessed with life, liberty and private property. They already do the whole Schmittian state of exception thing with the state of war. And they're okay with slavery as long as its against the ignorant or its a state of war. Basically, the worst kind of dark satanic mill shit. Like Mill wants to freely sell alcohol and then put drunkards in labor camps. Nietzsche and nihilism are irrelevant, the fascists are straight-up copies of Locke and Mill. And to be honest, the Liberals do that really long-winded and dull prose that fascists do as well.

- "Two Treatises of Government" by John Locke https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/john-locke/two-treatises-of-government
- "On Liberty" by John Stuart Mill https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/john-stuart-mill/on-liberty
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>>25165
BORING EUGENICS KUN MISANTHROPIC MENTALLY ILL PROSELYTIZATION #999999

>>25170
So is Voltaire's Bastards

>if you read locke (1690) he's a schmittian fascist (1932) AND an ancap (1963)
it seems that history means nothing to you.

Nietzsche is for the failsons specifically

>>25165
Are you 15?



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