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Everytime you visit /edu/, post in this thread. Tell us about what you're thinking about, what you're reading, an interesting thing you have learned today, anything! Just be sure to pop in and say hi.

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A quick note on the video @ >>>/leftypol/1538283
Also [vid related] for archival purposes

Around the 29 minute mark Peterson criticizes Marx and Engel's for assuming that workers would magically become more productive once they took over.

This actually happened historically, most of the actually effective productivity tricks work places use now were developed by Stakhanovites.

https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1936-2/year-of-the-stakhanovite/year-of-the-stakhanovite-texts/stalin-at-the-conference-of-stakhanovites/
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Thinking about the formation of the vanguard + the castration of the global majority by dopamine tech



 

drop them PDFs, we will rebuild edition
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>>24776
I'm unsure about the quality of this 1962 translation of Võ Nguyên Giáp. This edition appears to be published by the American Eagle Burger Freedom institute. I'm going through the foreword by Roger Hilsman:
<This is a peculiar book, as the reader will see for himself. People’s War, People’s Army is not a well-organized book but, rather, a collection of papers; and a lot of it is simply lies.

<Though far less ambitious, the book can be compared with Hitler’s Mein Kampf, which expressed a distorted view of history as seen by a fanatical personality. Nevertheless, Mein Kampf contained useful clues

But Hilsman sees a difference: Giáp's book
<is far inferior
🙄



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Post Copy pastas, videos and books which debunk common Fascist, Liberal talking points which are repeated often.
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>>6530
A post with this much strawmanning might as well be called a wicker man



 

I convinced a quite a big amount of Muslim friends and even Elder Muslim folks in my community that Capitalism is Haram with one simple argument: Usury is a sin under the the rule of "Riba" being Haram, literally meaning "infinite" or "excess" in Arabic, due to financial exploitation and taking advantage of the person.

Simple

>Infinite growth is a sin requires financial exploitation, and making money off of being idle

>Capitalism's main ethos is infinite profit extraction
>They connect the dots

This opens them up to other arguments like "Infinite growth is impossible on a planet with finite resources" and other things like excess, indulgence and things Capitalists encourage like gambling being a sin (Prediction markets are awful)

I then explain it's like pork, you can eat pork or drink alcohol if you need to if there is nothing else to eat or you need to numb pain under the Islamic law of Rukhsah (Exemptions out of health or other necessities) and we are forced to participate in it order to survive

This easily convinces a lot of Muslims, even ones I meet in the global south who are otherwise very conservative and even if I can't make them fully woke or whatever it's good to have people wake up to some injustice at least. Class interests come first

The main thing I'm asking is if anyone knows any similar works on Socialism from an Islamic perspective using this same logic or at least pre-modern Islamic works that meet the base principles of socialism and wants to discuss this further
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>>25781
You understand that Arab people can be atheist too, right?

>>25785
>Doesn't belong on LeftyPol
>LeftyPol has a flag for Islamic Socialism

I don't really care about your personal insults, a lot of people are religious and a lot of Marxists historically were. It's a useful tool to get people on your side. Religious institutions are bad and should be abolished perhaps but until we are feasibly able to secularise people by increasing the quality of material conditions and education (As seen in the more wealthy countries) We can get people to accept socialism from a religious perspective which will ironically lead to it's undoing as their understanding increases and/or material conditions/education get better in the hypothetical socialism is instituted

The only thing that is guaranteed to help advance a cause is if a ton of people from different sides and ideologies are against the same thing even if for different reasons


>>25786
>Arabs can be atheist

Ofc. But I didn't say Arabs, I said Muslims, and Muslim communities. And Arabic, not Arab. The most effective way to secularise a religious society is to Increase it's material conditions/education and a religious person sympathetic to left wing ideals is introducing them to the ideas set by Marx. In fact a few I know did. This is pragmatism in approaching how to get people to understand socialism

>>25787
>The most effective way to secularise a religious society is to Increase it's material conditions/education
this is plainly debunked by the UAE

>>25781
>Usury is a sin under the the rule of "Riba" being Haram, literally meaning "infinite" or "excess" in Arabic, due to financial exploitation and taking advantage of the person.
I don't find this a theologically convincing argument, or at least its not deep enough. Its similar to ones that Islamists have made. For one thing, it doesn't actually tackle some of the key components of capitalist ideologies, apart from pointing out that it's exploitative. Well, Marxism is also, in a way, exploitative, so do you really want to go that way?

> "Infinite growth is impossible on a planet with finite resources"

This is also a flaw of Marxist thought and much of 20th century state socialism. They are growth orientated and believed socialism could ensure maximal growth. Marx and Engels famously dismissed Malthus by saying "no worries there's way more resources on Earth that we'll never run out of it."

>even ones I meet in the global south who are otherwise very conservative and even if I can't make them fully woke or whatever it's good to have people wake up to some injustice at least. Class interests come first

The problem is you are talking down to people instead of learning from them. You have this high minded approach that you know the answers and all you need to do is explain it to less intelligent people. '

>works on Socialism from an Islamic perspective using this same logic or at least pre-modern Islamic works

Well many modernist authors from al-Aghani onward were interested in socialism. There's the Deobandi scholar Ubaidullah Sindhi who actually traveled to the USSR, Sayyid Qutb made similar arguments against capitalism, there was Shariati and a bunch of other socialists in Iran who took a similar line. The Muslim Brotherhood's Syrian wing was explicitly socialist until a few decades ago, al-Sibai wrote a book on it.

In Muslim intelligentsia now there's little interest in socialism outside the progressive wing of American Islamic studies. The other wing (let's call them the post-post-colonials) have moved onto a generalized critique of modernity as theologically and ethically incompatible with Islam (Wael Hallaq is the leader of this trend) but that critique also implicates Marxism in modePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>25787
>Religious institutions are bad and should be abolished perhaps but until we are feasibly able to secularise people by increasing the quality of material conditions and education (As seen in the more wealthy countries)
The idea that societies will become more secular has history moves on has been more or less debunked. The idea that secularism is somehow neutral, emancipatory, and the normal state of affairs has also come under fire. Western countries haven't become more secular because they are wealthy. They are secular because secularists triumphed ideologically over their rivals. This had practically nothing to do with economic conditions.

The idea that religious people need to be spoonfed a religious variant of socialism until they awaken to socialism is patronizing. Its also so insincere that people can sniff you out from a mile away. I've seen Maoist orgs do this in places like Bangladesh, dressing up some phoney Islamic socialism to pander to the masses. People can instantly tell they are trying to trick them.



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This guy Is called nigel askey, and is apparently a legitimate historian. He published a paper debunking TIK's claim that the K/D ratio of the soviets during WW was 1/1.6, instead claiming that the soviets lost over 4 more times as many combatants as the Germansduring WW2. Here is his paper. I'm not a qualified historian and I dont have access to acrhives or time to research, so I can't debunk him.

http://www.operationbarbarossa.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/Essay-alt-view-TIK-presentation.pdf

I checked out his website and alsthough he does seem to be knowledgeable, he makes certain ridiculous claims that the "Vicors write history" in WW2, and the allies covered up how technologically and tactically inferior they were to the germans.
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Hello folks, I was hoping someone could give me some decent literature on the Babiy Yar massacre in English, I wish to send it to a friend for them to study. It's hard to find anything non-Russian on the subject that doesn't insert anti-communist drivel into it and unfortunately, unlike myself, she cannot read Russian. Help a comrade out.

>>12984
great post, anon

I have no idea about the exact numbers or ratio but the Russian meatgrinder tactic is world famous plus Stalin executed his top military leaders.

You can see this tactic in Ukraine today with a complete disregard for Russian losses.

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>>25698
You read none of this thread, did you?
>Stalin executed his top military leaders
Did you time travel here from 2012? What the fuck is this shite?

Between 1934 and 1939, the Red Army's command lost over than 56,000 people, 10,000 of them arrested. Another 14,000 were dismissed for drunkenness and 'moral degradation'; the rest were dismissed for other reasons – illness, disability, etc. In the same period, 6,600 of the officers previously dismissed were reinstated after further proceedings.

As for loss ratios see pic 1 rel

These sorts of brainless takes belong on /leftypol/, or ideally pol, and not /edu/. That being said, hopefully you learn a thing or two from this.

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>>25794
Actually here's some more on the "officers"
To understand the scale of the purge, it's worth recalling that in 1937, Marshal Kliment Voroshilov said that, “the army had a total of 206,000 persons in the command structure”. The total size of the Red Army in 1937 was 1.5 million men at the time. Admittedly, poor training of the commanders of the Red Army was a problem in the 30s, but not one caused by repression but rather the rapid increase of men in the armed force. Already in 1939 the army had grown to 3.2 million men, and by January 1941 – to 4.2 million. By the beginning of the war the command staff amounted to nearly 440,000 officers and staff but training of officers is longer than of ordinary soldiers and thus it was out of proportion. The country was preparing for war, the army was growing, undergoing rearmament, and the training of officers came too late.
29% of Soviet military personnel had a higher education before the repressions. After them, the number became 38%. By 1941, the number had risen to 52%. Note that for the decade before the repressions, the number had remained stagnant at around 20-30%.

http://cas1961.livejournal.com/1204240.html

>''"Communism under Stalin has produced the most valiant fighting army in Europe. Communism under Stalin has provided us with examples of patriotism equal to the finest annals of history. Communism under Stalin has won the applause and admiration of all the Western nations. Communism under Stalin has produced the best generals in this war…

Political purges? Of course. But it is now clear that the men who were shot down would have betrayed Russia to her German enemy."'' Opportunity to Win War in 1942; A SECOND FRONT IN EUROPE TO AID RUSSIA, By LORD BEAVERBROOK, Britain's Lease-Lend Coordinator in Washington, Delivered before the Bureau of Advertising of the American Newspaper Publishers Association, April 23, 1942



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Is all radfem literature like this?

This shit is some of the most ludicrous, hyperbolic grievance mongering I have ever read. There's interesting shit floating around in here, but it is drifting in a sea of "every man is a wife-beating rapist who caused all the world's problems." Even though the book is directly comparing Zionism and feminism and seems to advocate for a lady Israel, it's mostly just couched in whining about men. Dworkin doesn't even have the fucking stones to be a strong Zionist. She's one of these wishy-washy Zionists who thinks that Zionists and Palestinians can co-exist, and maybe one day Israeli and Palestinian women can come together and unite against their REAL enemy: men! (lol) (lmao)
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>>25759
Yeah I know you do.

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Not only radfem literature, Marxist-feminist literature is the only kind of feminist literature that's somewhat sane.

>moved to a dead board
Does one of the mods have a soft spot for Dworkin?


>>758385
Then don't be an object
Like they can't rape you legally. If you have higher standards how can anyone objectify you? At least in that way

Y'all just don't wanna call a woman a gooner. Women are huge gooners. And I don't have to feel bad for a gooner that was completely your own doing so too bad. No love for whores. Just disease and gaslighting

all of them were neurotic bug-women



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Since /leftypol/ is downright autistic at times I decided to make a Debunk thread where anticommunist arguments are presented with their debunks by users.
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>>22272
>Trotsky.
loser cope

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>>22272
>ad hom
>trotsky
typical.

>>22275
rotsky ok

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God why is reddit such a faggoty cuckshed… oh right because they're a NATO propaganda arm. leftypol needs counteraction.
https://archive.ph/5QFv4




 

ITT post information about the history and anthropology of the New World. A lot of new anthropological work has been done in this field in recent decades that has not yet entered public consciousness.
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>>25618
i was shocked to find out that rice had also been domesticated in the americas after watching this video
https://www.science.org/content/article/rice-so-nice-it-was-domesticated-thrice
and then i couldn't stop thinking about how many other plants/animals may have been domesticated in the americas but were lost after colonization

>>25626
It raises questions about how we'd be able to tell if a species had been domesticated and later feralized, or whether we would think to look for that. If you look at the wild types of many cultivars, there is not much to suggest they would be serviceable once domesticated.

in more infuriating news
mexican president claudia sheinbaum and inah announce the discovery of a classical zapotec tomb designated as tomb 10 in huitzo, oaxaca
https://www.elfinanciero.com.mx/nacional/2026/01/23/asi-es-la-tumba-10-de-huitzo-el-descubrimiento-zapoteco-mas-relevante-de-la-ultima-decada-en-mexico/
the tomb is quite grand and imposing and features carved lintels, door jambs, a modeled stucco mask of an owl and murals, however the tomb was only located after locals complained about looting.
some weeks before this, dozens of objects from a postclassical mixtec tomb were unofficially excavated and taken out by a local community under the guidance of an influence named sr blue who documented the whole thing live on his facebook page:
https://oaxaca.eluniversal.com.mx/municipios/hallan-piezas-arqueologicas-en-san-pedro-jaltepetongo-oaxaca-inah-hace-llamado-al-no-saqueo/
which then led me to becoming aware of this individual with almost 1 million followers:
https://www.facebook.com/srbluemx/
whose gimmick consists in publicizing and showing off unexplored or unattended archeological sites around oaxaca allegedly to "bring attention to inah's negligence" of less famous archeological sites while writing self-righteous posts about how he's just a simple businessman who "devours" books in his free time who thinks people don't need no evil government to tell them how to take care of archeological sites or how to excavate them because folk wisdom will lead the way or whatever bullshit.

literally the 1st post as i'm writing this is a drone video showing a likely (and completely unguarded) pyramidal group atop a mountain near a highway in the etla valley.


New Ancient Americas on a popular topic:
The Secrets of Inca Masonry



 

WHAT IS YOU UYGHAS REACTION TO THIS????? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2asHUE4VyDo I NEVER KMEW………………………………………………………………………….



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"The Juche idea is a man-centered world outlook. It is a revolutionary, scientific, and political theory that accurately illumines the way for realizing the independence of the masses." - Kim Jong Il

People,let's make a good thread about the political ideology of Democratic People's Republic of Korea - Juche.
Share your thoughts,pdfs,videos,documentaries or other educational materials for the community of this site.
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>>25210
>so NK is a kind a cringe socialist country.
why? Very few arguments ITT. Disappointing.

can I post screenshots from official DPRK magazines showcasing how life is there, ITT?

>>24760
The brush represents intellectuals.

>>25739
>can I post propaganda, bros?

What do Jucheists think of Hasan apologizing to North Korea?



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