/games/ - Games

>>47347
>technically
meaning "not"

tbh i think companies moving away from physical distribution is good insofar as consumers can't conceptualize ownership the same way unless they own a physical commodity and the lack of physicality makes arguments against intellectual property and software licensing easier to digest. and also you're like 10 years too late because nintendo literally does not do physical distribution either, the cartridges no longer have game files in them. a bunch of ps5 games were the exact same, keys to access downloadable files.

>>47343
>stealing and piracy are different things
Eh, in some technical sense, but you're splitting hairs. What's happening in both cases is that a transaction is being circumvented; In the case of theft, a thief is doing so because they want the goods, but are unwilling to make a legal transaction to attain those goods, and is resorting to taking them from another person, who presumably made that legal transaction. The victim loses out of both the currency they spent on the goods in question and the time it took to earn that currency, as well as the goods themselves.

Piracy, on the other hand, is the circumvention of a legal transaction to attain a license for use of a good (or service), by procuring a 1:1 duplication of the good or service in question, thereby attaining an unauthorized copy. The end result is that the vendor of said good is not monetarily compensated for the use of the good or service in question, which constitutes a loss of revenue.

In both cases, there is a tangible loss and a tangible gain by the victims of theft and piracy, irrespective of whether you think either of them is bad.
>That's simply false, you used to be buying a physical copy of the software on a disc, much like you would buy a physical book
You're mistaken; when you purchase a book, you do not claim ownership of the work in question, merely the parchment upon which it was printed. In the same way, you claim no ownership of a physical video game, just a personal, non-transferable, non-commercial, license to consume it.
>we should support digital piracy
I support piracy, but you can't just dismiss that piracy is still illegal. If you want a legal solution, the so-called limp NFT variant scheme is a marginally effective proposal with little downsides. Make an actual objection of said proposal on some practical basis, why don't you. In other words, piracy is only a viable alternative for those who have no qualms about bending the law. I understand that many people don't care, myself included, but you can't assume that everyone is going to adhere to your sense of morality. I am not a moralfag in this regard, but any proposed solution to the digital only fuckery should presumably operate within the confines of the law.
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>>47350
>What's happening in both cases is that a transaction is being circumvented
"Lost sales" is not a real thing. It's just wish casting. What's happening in the case of theft is the physical loss of an item. You don't have to be a merchant for someone to steal from you.
>The victim loses out of both the currency they spent on the goods in question and the time it took to earn that currency, as well as the goods themselves.
Piracy does not take anything away from the producer or seller that simply refusing to buy would not also "take away" from them.

>when you purchase a book, you do not claim ownership of the work in question, merely the parchment upon which it was printed.
Yes and you are free to do whatever you want with that. You can write in the margins, white out and replace text, remove and re-order or add pages, rip out pages to wipe your ass with, burn the book, copy parts of it etc. Digital licensed software has the capability to mechanically stop you from doing what you want with it.
>I support piracy, but you can't just dismiss that piracy is still illegal.
Normies already say "if buying isn't owning piracy isn't stealing," so you are behind them on this. I'm pushing them to be more radical in their outlook on property, while you're arguing to be more conservative than a lot of the average consumers.

>>a different sort of pricing scheme
>Like what?
There are plenty of alternatives that have been explored, from freemium and games-as-service on the more exploitative end to pay-what-you-want donationware on the other extreme. As technology for monetization advances and more people with disposable income look elsewhere than AAA, there will doubtless be more innovation in the field.

>>47351
>"Lost sales" is not a real thing. It's just wish casting
No, "wish casting" is when I imagine that Taylor Swift will personally break into my window in the middle of the night and say
<let's get out of here, loser. I'm here to save your life
What the corporations are doing are setting expectations for the "performance" of their product. You can argue that their desire to see 500 million copies sold, or whatever arbitrary number, is wishful thinking, and I'd agree. You can argue that they're not entitled to a profit if they've made a subpar product and no one wants to buy it, with which I'd agree. However, you can't say they aren't entitled to compensation for their work. Money is a resource, and some amount of money went into the production of the software in question; Labor paid to the proles who wrote the software; Licensing for third party software like physics engines and whatnot to be used in development, alongside physical hardware like computer components; Money put into whatever the advertising campaign cooked up, and post launch quality assurance, etc. The point being, there was an investment made with the expectation of some amount of return. They're not offering their product for free, and really, if you think you're entitled to anything for free, that's wishful thinking on your part, as long as we live in a capitalist system.
>Piracy does not take anything away from the producer or seller that simply refusing to buy would not also "take away" from them
Generally, when you pirate a product, you are not contributing to the recouping of those costs, nor are you contributing to any profit the product may have made. Again, I support piracy, because I believe the publishers and online distribution platforms are greedy scumfucks who will abuse the consumer at every opportunity, as long as it generates more revenue, because they don't care about integrity or art or anything else but the profit motive. That is a good enough reason to abstain from their shitty products all together, rather than waste time acquiring an unauthorized copy, but if you're so inclined, then fucking go for it.

However, piracy itself can never be a solution, because it's illegal, it will never will be legal (at least in the USA), and these corporations arPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>and I don't just mean the surface level "good = left, evil = right"
<The Pacifist Route embodies leftism at it's core: doing what's right
<Conversely, the Genocide Route embodies the right wing: going out of your way to make things worse for everyone
uyghur, I don't know why I believed you

play another game

>I don't just mean the surface level "good = left, evil = right"
<leftism is when good values and rightism is when making things worse
fucking retarded pseud

>>47320
>leftism is when good values and rightism is when making things worse
Thats pretty much correct.

>>47340
But much of the "historically progressive" things have been declared evil: slavery, genocide of natives, enclosure, child labor, the early industrial system, Manifest Destiny, and the British conquest of India.

>>47345
Capitalism is progressive vis a vis feudalism, doesn't mean that it is right now

>>47290
it's homosucc tim 2 shine

I loved Undertale back in the day but I can't bring myself to care about this. I don't even doubt that it's good. Ship just sailed. Right time right place yadda yadda

<we're gonna need Moses if it keeps flooding like this

>>47333
as someone who was huge into homestuck when i was a teen (that's the only age you're allowed to read homestuck at) but has never played undertale/deltarune i feel like how magic johnson must feel in that i caught that infection pretty early on and by all means i should've succumbed to the disease but, by the grace of god, i didn't…

>>47326
He would never

>>47272
No, unlike them it's actually good, it's a FMV game where you play as Wu Zetian, very woman coded but enjoyable in a camp way especially if you like China

Warframe and Skate are the only two games I enjoy these days.

>>47271
latest political compass test just dropped

Been playing Dragon Age 2 and left off a week or two ago in the middle of act 3 because I got crazy busy.

>>47305
>Maybe its going to be like decision whether to escape and abandon your partner, or both of you going to prison or something like that. But there is no way in hell Rockstar will give player option to murder their girlfriend.
the game literally ends in the game theory prisoner dilemma lol

>>47307
If I can't murder by girlfriend then what's the point?

>>47307
how is that supposed to work in a single player game?

>>47309
it looks at who you have played as the most and you make the choice for them while the game makes the choice for the other character based on like relationship or karma or whatever.

>>47301
>>47302
the sad thing is that i think the special edition is vastly outselling which shows despie all the people complaninig rockstar won fleecing their fans.

anyone here play napoleonic wars
if you see a faggot by the name of rice lord, thats me. And no i dont feel bad smacking you with dragoons

why does everyone in this mod's loading screen looks like they want to die?

>>47298
No anime

>>47298
This is either a painting of the middle ages or something heavily inspired by this, and European medieval painters were not good at faces in general. It's a question for art historians really.

I wish I could play even bigger battles in this.

Bro, in fable 3 you essentially have to become a landlord or you cannot get all your citizens to survive.
Half the damn game is landlord sim.

This looks like Fable 1 if it got fed through an AI filter.

Peter Molyneux is the king of hacks, and those people are always smarmy capitalists promising the world only to go away with money bags while the cucksumers are left empty except for disappointment. It completely makes sense that this Fable is like that because he gave that degenerate DNA to the game. Remember that "Curiosity: What's Inside The Cube" shit was a huge scam.

>>47219

I interpret it as you need to nationalize the land to finance your military defense without otherwise fucking over society.

Still, it would have been much better if the game operated with real resources & industrialization & militarization were real issues with tradeoffs (including needing to crush at a few large landowners & capitalists to get ahead without fucking over the majority of the population too much).

Video games are bourgeois. S-poster confirmed LARPer for not launching a Protracted People's War in Wales. S poster is revisionist and class collaborationist and probably fascist and dengist as well.

>>46719
Yeah, nothing wrong with pirating unless you really wanna support the devs, the only downside is if you wanna do co-op or multiplayer, usually cracked games fuck that up.

Fuck them, pirate the hell out of the game. I mean, i buy stuff out of Steam. But if it was 24-27% of my salary, i would think "y'know, these fuckers want to rob the shit out of me". By the way, i'm sorry your salary is that low, you're not even living anymore, you're surviving or basically paying to breathe.

I have not paid for a singleplayer game in years

Yes but I played pirated Death Stranding 2 after playing a legit version of the first one and I stopped after the prologue because I realized the connection with other players was important to me narratively and not just a gimmick, so I'll wait until a hard discount for this particular game. But piracy is the way.

First of all, pirate all you want. I pirated games my entire childhood, and now that I have a job and a disposable income, I'm filling in my catalogue with games I loved as a little boy.

Second of all, there are tons of good games you can get for very, very cheap. Check out someplace like https://www.cheapshark.com/

Looking at it at the moment of writing, I can see you can get Metro 2033 for 99 cents, Dishonored for $1.99, Homeworld for $3.49, Frostpunk for 3 bucks. These are all amazing games available at a 90% discount. Have you played literally every good game of yesteryear? I doubt it.

But you don't have to do that. You can just pirate, it's literally fine.