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Discuss what info, links, resources, etc. to add on this sticky as well as drop ideas and suggestions to the /leftymu/ board at large

Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/#leftymusic:matrix.org
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Post em if you got em
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The goat imo

My favorite record of 2026. More synthpop though but in the same scene as North American gothic-industrial people.




 

Why does it seem like so many leftists support Michael Jackson to the point where they make defending him from all his abuse allegations a political issue?

I've seen this a lot recently, with the new MJ biopic out as well as all the new allegations of abuse from the Cascio family and also a new Leaving Neverland documentary. In spite of the left staunchly holding on to #metoo and the fact abuse survivors/victims need to be believed and supported, the same isn't true with the multiple people who have accused MJ of CSA and grooming. The Epstein case has made discussions of pedophilia, CSA, and power imbalances in relationships mainstream. People are even going so far as to debate whether or not the Age of Consent should be raised to 21 in order to shield 18-year olds from predatory 30-year olds. Yet, if you bring up the fact MJ engaged in such things, you're denounced as a right-winger or reactionary (or even a racist).

Perhaps the most bizarre claims I've heard is that MJ was pro-Palestine and (allegedly) wrote a song about Palestine, Israel knew this so Mossad planted the CSA allegations against him in order to ruin him before the song could be recorded. There's no evidence of this, and MJ actually travelled to Israel and met with the IOF about a month after the Chandlers made the allegations known. I've also heard the conspiracy that MJ was protecting kids from the "real predators" in Hollywood and was saving kids from being trafficked to Epstein Island. That claim is easily debunked once you realize Epstein didn't buy his infamous island until 1998, and MJ was already taking in kids long before that.

And let's be honest: even if MJ did nothing criminal with the boys he surrounded himself with, his behaviours with them was still NOT appropriate. A grown man in his 30s and 40s should never, ever be having sleepovers with 8,9, and 10-year olds, much less sharing a bed with them. Plus, all of the stories his accusers tell fit perfectly with the model of grooming: MJ would dazzle the parents of these kids and buy them lots of expensive items, the parents would let their guards down and allow him to do what he pleased with their children, then MJ would have almost romantic-like relations with these kids. In no possible world would that ever be acceptable for a grown man to do.

So what gives? Why do so many comrades still defend MJ so viciously?
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>Why does it seem like so many leftists support Michael Jackson
I swear you fags just make shit up as an excuse to be angry at leftists

He was an awful human being made worse by everything that ever happened to him that he then inflicted on others, it’s a cliché story in pretty much every social class. He just also happened to be a musical genius on the level of the Beatles (multiple time Paul collaborator) and give us On The Wall, Thriller, and Bad. These things aren’t mutually exclusive.

he stole a lot of things from lesser known artists and never gave any credit. but then again that's most famous artists, they aren't really "geniuses", they just happen to be the figurehead for an industrial level of effort coming from multiple different artists, which makes them seem way more talented than they really are

parasocial idolatry and hero worship are unhealthy and are a recipe for cognitive dissonance. people elevate human beings into gods who can do no wrong and then when their false gods inevitably reveal themselves to be nothing more than flawed fallible human beings, sometimes in the most outrageous and reprehensible ways imaginable, the idolator cannot reconcile the two conflicting perceptions and so their mind cracks and splits in two. they might go into denial and reject the part of themselves that sees the reality to embrace the part of themselves that still wants to worship and love their hero and continue worshipping them as if nothing happened, they might interpret it as a personal betrayal and reject the part of themselves that once idolized their hero and embrace the part of themselves that is filled with resentment and pain at the betrayal and decide to go stalk and kill the person a la mark david chapman. the rational sane perspective is that he was just a guy who recorded and performed some popular music in the 80s and then later turned out to be a child molester and that as a fan or a listener you never had any genuine two-way human relationship with him and he never knew you or cared about you and you never really knew him or cared about him either, you just enjoyed the songs he recorded and the stage persona he portrayed and that's as far as it goes.

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>Perhaps the most bizarre claims I've heard is that MJ was pro-Palestine and (allegedly) wrote a song about Palestine, Israel knew this so Mossad planted the CSA allegations against him in order to ruin him before the song could be recorded … So what gives? Why do so many comrades still defend MJ so viciously?
I've seen this before, but I'm not sure these people are leftists? To me they just seem like cranks and antisemites (which tends to go together) because they think the Jews were out to get Michael Jackson. I don't know why you're saying "comrades" and so on. I guess there are people like this who join the Green Party here in the U.S. and are sort of vaguely leftist (I guess).

>>17100
>guys how do we solve the leftists michael jackson problem??? any good marx quotes on that shit? rofl
Lmao. You're so bad.

>>17251
>parasocial idolatry and hero worship are unhealthy and are a recipe for cognitive dissonance.
People do get crazy about musicians. People will wait outside concert venues hoping for a chance to meet them.



 

Is there more of a phenomenon of people listening to all/every genre or at least a ton of them? 20-30 years ago shit was a lot cliquish with punks, metalheads, hip hop fans, etc. having their own subcultures and people thought old music was cheesy. Now I notice zoomer listen to all genres and a ton even listen to old/boomer music without any reservations.
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No, there have always been people who listen to everything but the “cliques” are the loudest.
Gen Z isn’t special

idk but imma post a boomer banger

> Is there more of a phenomenon of people listening to all/every genre or at least a ton of them?
it was a big phenomenon for millennials who, to some extent, and through rampant unregulated music piracy, became curators of their own ipods. but now that music has been once again concentrated, except into a handful of streaming platforms, it's less of a thing, there's no need to curate anymore, just consuming the algorithm. and the spaces for debate and curation are slowly turning deserted.

>>12181
Im gen z and listen to 'all genres' but I have a predominate preference for certain types of music so I guess that counts

>>12181
There might be something to it, but going back earlier like to the 1980s… at least from what I can tell listening to some interviews with old musicians who were making music back then. Like your style of clothes and the kind of music you listened to was serious business!



 

Post your favorite Folk-Punk
I'll start
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>>3213
love this man so much, grew up around him. hooked up with a girl at one of his shows & apologized to her for some reason & then all of her friends made fun of me. ghost mice was there too but ghost mice sucks honestly

of ballots and barricades


reading theory has made me stop liking folk punk

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https://thesuburbanists.bandcamp.com/album/eat-from-the-tree
I really did not want to like this but I can't help it.



 

This is a song I made with the war on Ukraine in mind. I have friends there and I hope they're fine and will be when it's all over

https://soundcloud.com/bmpunkrebooted/war-on-the-living-psyche?si=b53b29ed604e432b87439553de3ea3a1&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing



 

Hip hop of any genre
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inside-inside-inside-inside that funk can hypnotize-hypnotize-
deaaaad a uygha deaaaad it's-deaaaad a uygha deaaaad a uygha deaaaad it's in my fuckin head

Flood



 

post any death metal, grindcore or mincecore that you love

the goddamn fucking body is too fucking short or empty btw!!!!!!!!!
this body is way shorter than my literal pencil
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Heaviest album in E standard, ever.






 

I found the imageboard anthem.

Fresh Air - Kill Yourself (1971)
discogs.com/Fresh-Air-Kill-Yourself-Just-Dont-Care/release/12718652
KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS KYS

Personally I think this Kill Yourself represents leftypol better even if I don't completely understand the bands words.

Kind of slaps



 

Post in this thread every time you come to this board. Post music you like here, whatever it may be.
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CLASS WAR DECLARATION MIX FROM THE THAI LABOUR MUSEUM STORAGE ROOM
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i feel so old and sad
wish i didn't turn into a neet





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