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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<"It's A Big Club… And You Ain't In It!" Edition


Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka

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>>2394724
There's something sussy about it. A lot of passive voice involved in the reports, nothing saying where the bomb was being transferred to…

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https://www.axios.com/2025/07/18/israel-syria-ceasefire-us-tension
Israel and Syria agree to a ceasefire, U.S. envoy says

>Israel and Syria agreed on a ceasefire after days of heightened tensions and Israeli airstrikes in Damascus and southern Syria, U.S. envoy Tom Barrack said on Friday.


>Why it matters: The Trump administration that mediated the ceasefire has become extremely concerned that the crisis this week could further destabilize the region and undermine the U.S. diplomatic push in Syria.


>What they are saying: "BREAKTHROUGH —— Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu and Syrian President al-Sharaa, supported by Secretary of State Rubio have agreed to a ceasefire embraced by Türkiye, Jordan and its neighbors", Barrack wrote on X.


<Barrack said the U.S. and its partners call upon the Druze, Bedouins, and Sunnis in Syria to put down their weapons "and together with other minorities build a new and united Syrian identity."

<"We urge all Syrians to honor each other and live in peace and prosperity with their neighbors," he stressed.

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>>2394724
but dorner killed 4 cops

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https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/16/europe/us-envoy-ireland-palestinian-territories-bill-intl

< US Ambassador to Israel Mike Huckabee accused Ireland of “diplomatic intoxication” Tuesday in a sharp rebuke of the draft legislation, invoking a derogatory stereotype of the Irish people.


>“Did the Irish fall into a vat of Guinness & propose something so stupid that it would be attributed to act of diplomatic intoxication? It will harm Arabs as much as Israelis. Sober up Ireland!,” Huckabee said in a post on X.


Goddamn Hibernians at it again.

>>2394730
Oy Beggorah!



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ITS JOEVER. REFORM HAS WON. TOTAL BRITAIN LOSS.
I HOPE YOU BRITISH FAGS ENJOY THE ONE PARTY REFORM STATE.
AHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHA CLOWN WORLD AHHAAH
(unironically this is a pretty grim situation)
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By the way the UK is really the proof that eugenicists and Richard Banania EHC types are full of hot hair. Socially progressive elitist types, too.
"EHC" have ruled this country alone for a 100 years and turned everything to shit no matter what worldview you can have.
Who is this "country" for by that point? It look like it is being mutated to accomodate cosmopolitan 65yo radfem Guardian columnists alone. Even Hitler 2 would be a historical progress to wathever we are doing now.

>>2393735
I hope so but the left is too effeminate, unambitious and demoralized to do anything that matter. Which is why fAsIcSm or anything similar isnt in fact coming back. There is no strong forward thiking left to crush, thete isnt even violent leftist terrorism, kaput.

>>2393677
Beautliful situation.

What's wrong with scots? Why are they projected to vote libdems? Burger here btw.

>>2394637
SNP is collapsing, they lost the referendum and now have no real reason to exist



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Existing as an extension of why more people are losing interest in having children, some are opting out of relationships including platonic ones for a simple reason—it’s too much work. Chores, jobs, planning, self management stacked on top of the fact that finding friends is legitimately hard in much of the planet—you literally cannot just expect to simply walk outside and find one in most places—stacked on top of the fact that maintaining friendships or romantic relationships with people is a hell in of itself, I can understand why loneliness is receiving less scorning and more acceptance—at least where I live. It’s too much stress placed on one person and the amount of things you can lose to exploitative friends or failed romantic relationships or even just the amount of time and energy spent on even finding other people can be enough for weaker people to just throw in the towel and quit both finding relationships and also lose interest in them entirely.

>>2394395
Sir, this is a leftist imageboard. >>>/Siberia/ perhaps.

>>2394395
>—
chatgpt thread

True. I've never had a girlfriend. Don't really have any friends. Barely talk to family even though I live with my parents. Also barely talk to cowokers



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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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>>2394684
honestly the olny subreddit i can visit without constant rage bait is r/rape_hentai, everything else is just firehose of that shit
>>2394687
buddy…. pls

>>2394684
i'd read it but there's a good chance it's AI generated trite meant to ragebait the redditurds

>>2394533
There is no problem. But we should start the conversation on the necessity of destroying blackness and black identity as well.

>>2394670
Why will the bourgeoisie not want money from Intellectual Property? You actually think video game IP are below their notice for some mysterious reason?

>>2394699
I am the one who posted the post and I didn't read it all beyond the title and her description. All she did is use moral outrage over singer in sister than make a writing about how much more successful she is than her and how her sister is a loser in life.

>>2394694
>honestly the only subreddit
>namefag is /pol/ redditor



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EDIÇÃO BOB CUSPE
O mundo precisa mudar, as cidades precisam mudar, o ser humano então, nem se fala. Está tudo uma grande e monstruosa merda. Ninguém aguenta mais tanto os mocinhos como o bandidos… por isso, lançamos aqui a candidatura de Bob Cuspe para prefeito de todas as cidades, de todos os Estados do mundo.
O covil dos webcomunistas no BR

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ESTAMOS COM LVLA

>>9814

A carta de desligamento do Ivan do PCBR é o caso mais recente, se eu lembro bem tinha algo sobre a China ou os gregos.

>>9818
belo texto, camarada, viva trotsky e pau no cu do pcbr

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20 year challenge

>>9819
Não entendi, companheiro.
Mas de fato eles mesmo se prejudicaram um pouco. O PCBR por muito pouco quase ficou de fora da eleição na UFRPE, de novo.

>>9821
Tinha sim!

>>9826
:) obrigado
Aqui na UNE nem fiz muita questão de ir na delegação do PCBR falar com eles. No geral os poucos militantes que conversei do PCBR nem quiseram conversa comigo por conta do meu partido, uma prática bem comum nas juventudes da UNE e que eu rechaço por ser sectária, mas alguns foram legais (curiosamente quando o Jones passou perto de mim ele falou o meu nome kkkk). Os militantes de base são bem legais, e hoje trombei com uma militante que tive uma conversa bem legal.
O pior contato que tive com um militante do PCBR foi com o Gabriel Tavares, um diretor da UNE e membro do CC, o cara teve a pachorra de me vender um jornal OFuturo para eu saber em seguida que eles estavam dando de graça. Enfim, tenho que ir.



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Recent news:
Last thread lasted 2 days, so these events are separated by hours.

STG stalemates in Suwayda after the Israeli bombings.
STG withdraws due to the Israeli pressure.
Many civilian massacres and violations are uncovered after STG forces leave. At the same time, Druze commit atrocities against Bedouins.
Sectarian attacks against Druze outside of Suwayda.
Bedouin tribes announce a mobilisation against the Druze of Suwayda, vowing to continue the fight without the government.
Most tribes join convoys heading for Suwayda. Many sectarian non-tribals also do.
Tribals advance slowly through Suwayda.
More convoys.
Druze launch a counter-offensive that retakes some villages.
Stalemate at front.
More convoys.
Very recently government calls on the tribes to leave. They refuse. Reports of government attempting to block roads.
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>>2394632
wasnt there a statement in the old thread saying the tribes are not planning to comply?

>>2394665
Yes, but they could possibly fold under pressure.

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STG attempting to control the convoys and block the roads.

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Druze celebrating, though the terms of the agreement is still unknown.

>>2394629
he will safely move towards the frontline and talk with a bunch of people that hear no reason and not trained to obey centralized command centers to go and tell them that the ceasefire is in effect.



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Are Uyghurs actually worse than regular normies?

This is an important distinction, since the reactionary camp encompasses two types of people.

1. Normie operating on instinct
2. Entrenched cultist with ideological conviction

For example, America is full of the first kind. I wouldn't expect your regular American Christian to oppose life extension through science, because they wouldn't be ideologically consistent enough in their worldview to want that. Their fear of death or inconvenience in the moment outweighs the abstract possibility of heaven in their mind, creating a sort of instinctive doublethink. For such people, religion is an expression of autopilot conformity. They don't have agency are more like red blood cells in the social organism rather than something to be exterminated.

Keep in mind, I have massive contempt for the first type of reactionary. Unfortunately, they are the VAST majority in every society, and the "socialization" solution for this majority is only achievable through careful sustained effort (as the USSR learned the hard way). If the Uyghurs are a variant of this first type of person, then overkill persecution isn't necessary and won't achieve much (aside from bad optics).

HOWEVER, if they are like the second group - Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, or other moralizing fundies who would prevent us from playing god with science, they deserve everything they get and more.

Most of what I know about these people is from heavily biased sources. Do we have any objective proof that Uyghurs belong to the second category of fundamentalist reactionaries? I have no stake in this matter, and am open to a convincing argument on why they people actually suck.
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>>2334093
>It‘s the nature of dictatorships
So you know the chinese gov innately wants that because it's a "dictatorship"? That's all the proof you need?

>to label most, if not all opposition as some kind of extremism an therefore attempt to delegitimate it

Xinjiang is not in opposition to the PRC, it's a constituent part of it, so what are they trying to delegitimize exactly?

>In the case of the Uyghurs, islamism is a good option for that, as „Xinjiang“ undeniably had islamist terroristic attacks

Ok but where does the PRC claim everyone in Xinjiang is a islamist? Or anything of the sort?

> Only very few people in these camps are actual islamists, 99% or more are there because they did something the chinese government didn‘t like

Source on this? "It's the nature of dictatorships" doesn't count

>for example practicing non-chinese culture

Uyghur culture is a chinese culture and is viewed as such by the CPC, maybe you're thinking of Wahhabism? That's from Saudi Arabia and yeah they don't like it in China :/

>>2334291
>sit down bitch boy, get back to me when anarchists can build 47,000 KM of high speed rail
Destroy all the railways in China, let the chinese comrades turn it into an anarchist commune, and the railways will be rebuild as they need it. Kropotkin used it as an example (chapter 11), you should read some basic anarchist theory.

>>2337784
>Destroy all the railways in China, let the chinese comrades turn it into an anarchist commune, and the railways will be rebuild as they need it
But why do this when the railway was already constructed in a much faster, more efficient and organized manner than what you/Kropotkin proposes? Which basically amounts to "just let it be, people sorted shit out between themselves before and that's like the best way to do it"

Also please provide an example of anarchists actually building high speed rail instead of theorizing about it

All of you are dumb uyghurs, actually, lol.

Turks massacre minorities in their country and claim it's legitimate. But when the same thing happens to them, they become the most human rights-conscious people.



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1. Isreal is utterly dependent on American aid and American support is dwindling.

2. Jewish people are not the majority in Israel/Palestine. No government may long stand without the consent of the majority of the governed.

3. The B.D.S. movement. Israel simply cannot afford to become an international pariah.

4. A large percentage of Israel's Jewish population will leave when Israel is no longer able to support a First-World standard of living.

5. Hubris. The Israeli government is unwilling to make the necessary concessions and reforms.
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>>2392872
Why would they go to China when most of them are from Europe and the Middle East? Just go where your grandparents are from if you can’t stand the idea of having equal rights with Arabs

>>2392773
It doesn't fucking help that donkey boy is so hot

I saw the older thread and thought my post was deleted but no OP made the same thread twice with slightly different spacing for some reason

>No government may long stand without the consent of the majority of the governed.
The problem is arabs are arrogant goycattle that cant cooperate across borders or between communities or between sects to save their lives. Look at syria man. Arabs also cant fight.
If South Africans and Rhodesian bantus were as mediocre as modern arabs you can be sure these places would still be ran by Anglo-Dutch masters.

>>2392625
If the US ends aid to Israel China and India will simply make Israel their own pawn.



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>>42414
Then why even bother at this point? Put this site out of its misery and redirect everyone to Hexbear or something



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If you 'denounce' the historical real socialism that existed and exists, you can't be a communist.
>but those were not real communism
Real communism is the movement which abolishes the current state of things (private property the alienation of species-being) and it is the expansion of worker association to international terms. To think 'communism' can be reduced to just a single historical act is silly. It is, after all, a process. Real socialism was one such historical act in a chain of many to come.
>okay, they are communist, but they are totalitarian! They are authoritarian!
Those are empty words liberal ideolouges use to justify equating the Soviet anti-colonial socialist project and the Nazifascistic colonial Lebensraum project, to keep the status quo of liberal representative democracy as the 'only democratic nonauthoritarian' society.
>what do you mean the soviet project is an anti-colonial project?
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/may/18.htm
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1913/may/07b.htm
>I… I didn't know. I'm sorry. I will now study the history of the Soviet Union and build an antiimperialist socialist project on the Marxist-Leninist tradition. I will support the anti-colonial Palestinian people's struggle. I will globalize the intifada.
And you will defend the People's Republics of China, Vietnam, Laos, Cuba, Belarus and the DPRK. You will study Cuban agroecology and you will learn to live with nature. You will have Chinese high speed rails and high quality Belarusian agricultural machinery. You will be happy.

Any questions?
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>>2371997
internationalism is not antinationalism

>>2372404

Illiterate

>>2371997
A≠B
Malk is not banana
Things are not as they seem, nor are they otherwise.
>>2372117
It's just not, like it's not that good. I get it compensates for something but there is (always) better ways, like solving the problem directly.
https://thetricontinental.org/newsletterissue/newsletterissue-state-institutions-global-south/
>We must strengthen our weaknesses.

I get it with liberals, they are fundamentally status-quoists but the so-called ultra? They are ostensibly totally, way deep in opposition. The cognitive dissonance can't be good.

>>2284496 Communism is a tool for anarcho-nihilism. You can't reject it completely. Read your book properly.
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/monsieur-dupont-nihilist-communism

>>2286076
There is no such thing as an "Anarcho-nihilist project"
Projects are pointless struggles in aimlessness.



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Is Kotkin perpetually stuck in 1917? What do you all think of someone like this. I don't really know how he doesn't know that most of what he said applies to capitalism, the enacting of policies that ignore the consequences to labor and those at the lowest in society.

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>>2392602
Is this the no-name jeet who inexplicably has access to top tier guests?

>>2393355
the anon is actually quoting other sources that tie him to right wing projects and viewpoints, and gives very little opinion himself, so i'm puzzled why you care about his viewpoint so much. If you are sympathetic to his views and his project, then just say it outright. Also, a historians' job is to investigate primary resources, that doesn't mean their interpretation is by default valid or free from bias; you can selectively interpret primary resources, or your limited access to particular types of primary sources can shape your narrative.

>>2393356
yes
there are some podcasters who just started and somehow get big names right from the start
another guy is Joshua Citarella
just started, 40k subscribers, but mostly big name guests

>>2392417
>I don't really know how he doesn't know that most of what he said applies to capitalism, the enacting of policies that ignore the consequences to labor and those at the lowest in society.
He knows. He just doesn't care at this point, and will paper over the immiseration of workers in this country and around the world with whatever talking points and memes are in vogue among his Hoover Institute accomplices. Watch this seminar delivered to a group of porky investors in Singapore where he goes full sicko on the threat of de-dollarization by the BRICS countries.
https://youtu.be/NtgWytCmulg?si=YHmbKPp2eFA57CuH&t=1620

>>2393679
>there are some podcasters who just started and somehow get big names right from the start
wonder how much there foreign policy views align with the US state dep. lol



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Monarchist group associated with "Tsarebozhnie" creates an anti-Lenin documentary, calls for burial of Lenin in Russia (picrel)

What are they doing? And in the middle of SMO like that? Are they hoping that the west will destabilise the country and cause a civil war so they are preparing their proponents to attempt a takeover?
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>>2388236
At the very least the person who wrote this certainly doesn't "know their stuff". Since when do communists use appeals to authority like this? Read and grasp the content as a Marxist, no source is beyond reproach or criticism. There isn't a single advancement in Marxism that was won without political struggle.

>>2388589
You just don't get it.

Lenin should be buried but only when the entire global population lives under communism. It would be a symbolic and glorious last farewell.

>>2388236
>Bruh this is Chinese state university. They know their stuff
>the article doesn't quote any sources
lmfao

>>2392835
Why are you even here if you can't trust a socialist country



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what do I think what do I read what do I do please help me become le based anarchist I am clinging onto any identity that makes me feel less like a fat loser
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>>2248040
>I am clinging onto any identity that makes me feel less like a fat loser
Starve yourself, bro

unironically read Indian Marxists/Neo Gramscian such as Ranajit Guha, Partha Chatterjee, Salyan Kanyal. They all have a much better understanding of the state than western Marxists and understanding the limits of the state is key to being an anarchist.


In my experience, anarchists are just liberal friends groups with (always white) people hanging out doing brainrot drugs and/or gardening because they *still* cling to their reactionary peasant worship like >>2314078 mentioned. Shocking amount of religion in it too, though I guess utopianism and religion go hand in hand.

That's not sectarian bullshit either, that's just simply what I see with my own two eyes. I can talk about communist parties being neurotic, sex-pest cults or soc dems (DSA berniecrats and MLs) fighting each other over parties when they all do the same shit.

>I'm looking for an ideology to distract from the fact I'm a fat loser

Yikes

Be a fool who dreams too much.



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i know the image is unrelated but soon theres gonna be a council meeting in my city and i was thinking of filling up a bucket with pee and poo and throwing it at lobbiests and bourgeois including the mayor because the building's design would allow me to do it. should i do it or not?
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>>2379913
idk i think progressive i don't really care

>>2379918
>canada
just creampie them and claim youre from the rhino party, they love that

>>2380047
i don't wanna get arrested for rape doe

Dobit thebgreatbpoo attack of 2025 would be the peak of /leftypol/ o algo

no balls



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Recent news:
Last thread lasted many months, so keep in mind these events are separated by weeks.

Back-and-forth negotiations between the SDF and STG (Syrian transitional government).
STG attacks Lebanese tribes in Beqaa Valley again to "combat smuggling", withdraws quickly.
Clashes erupt between the STG and the Druze population in Jaramana. They're defused quickly.
Low-intensity insurgency continues in the coast.
More unsuccessful negotiations between the SDF and STG.
ISIS bombs a church.
Syria gets a new shitty emblem.
More negotiations between the SDF and STG. This time the US sided seemed to have sided with Turkey and the STG.
STG attacks Suwayda governorate, a majority-Druze province that has been de-facto autonomous since the fall of Assad. They get pushed back at first but are now trying again.
Israel bombs the shit out of Syria in response to the Suwayda offensive. The MoD building takes heavy hits. The conflict is still ongoing as of this thread's creation.

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Israel using incendiary balloons in South Syria.

Oh no..
>Arab tribes reject the presidential statement and announce the launch of Operation "Dawn of the Tribes" to liberate Sweida tonight, according to their description.
>According to estimates in Syria, more than 100,000 tribal fighters will attack Sweida tonight

Isn'treal are dropping flares and shit in Daraa & Suwayda. Precursor of attacks.

>>2394593
are golani's days numered?




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Japan should be a textbook example for any tyrant who wants to control their population. As Goethe accurately noted: "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free". Japan has mastered the art of indoctrination. The control is not exerted through force or laws, but rather culture. This is smartly combined with fervous nationalism which claims that the culture of Japan is "immutable and homogeneous". This has several consequences:
- The definition of what is to be "Japanese" is narrowe and conveniently defined. It does not limit itself to ethnia and birthplace, but behavior. The ideal Japanese man is obedient to his superior. The ideal Japanese woman obeys her husband.
- Therefore, anything that moves away from the ideal of Nihonjinron (Japaneseness) should be attacked, ignored, isolated. Invidual thoughts or traits are suppressed (sexuality, originality, etc.)
- Since the Yamato ace is the best, then Japan is also the best. As consequence, any negativity or criticism isn't publicly allowed. This is entrenched not only in social relationships like the family, but all the way into academia and intellectuals.
- Even the highest echelons of Japanese society must follow the rules. The book "Princess Masako : prisoner of the Chrysanthemum throne : the tragic true story of Japan's Crown Princess" clearly depicts the obedience of the empress and emperor towards the Imperial Household, even in their own detriment.
- A combination of nationalism and culture. That is, if you aren't a fervor nationalist, you do not love your own culture. Since humans naturally have a sense of belonging, this feeling is co-opted by nationalist sentiments.
- The logical consequences of the mythical Yamato and nation of the rising sun, is racism and xenophobia. As such, foreigners become the perfect scapegoat, even though they only make up 3% of the population and hold no political nor economic power. This discrimination extends to the indigenous populations: Ainu and Ryukyu.
- End result: a deferential, obedient society uncapable of publicly criticizing the status quo, willing to do anything in the name of Japan. This is assuming they can first break through the veil of nationalism so entrenched in their society.

Japanese society is what every tyrant desires. It will be the last place where the revolution happens, as it is impossible for the Japanese to rise against their government. Japan is in a sense a nightmare. IPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2394315
Of course.

>the raped:
>>2394315

>>2393654
>nearly a century
Fascism in Japan goes back to the Kokugaku movement of the 1600s, their anti-Chinese racism and esoteric ethnonationalist sentiment stems from the poison rhetoric of the kokugaku no shiushi, who sought to force the Japanese nationalist essence away from its natural and rightful place under Chinese influence through some power of the will.

>>2394428
no, im the rapist

>>2391084
>Orientalism

You should hear what I have to say about some western countries.



/leftypol/

 

Oi! Do you 'ave a loicense for that Palestinian flag m8?

https://apnews.com/article/britain-palestine-action-arrests-protest-bf430c85a317e7e1f768c9ebd2a6131a

>More than 70 people were arrested Saturday at protests in the U.K. against the Palestine Action group being proscribed a terrorist organization by the British government following a break-in and vandalism at a Royal Air Force base.


>In London, the Metropolitan Police said 42 people had been arrested by late afternoon. All but one of the arrests were for showing support for a proscribed organization, which police have said includes chanting, wearing clothing or displaying articles such as flags, signs or logos. Another person was arrested for common assault.


>A further 16 arrests were made in Manchester, according to Greater Manchester Police, while South Wales Police said 13 people were also held in Cardiff.


>In London, it was the second straight week protesters gathered to support the pro-Palestinian activist group. Its outlawing has meant support for the organization is deemed a criminal offense. Police arrested 29 people at a similar protest last weekend.
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>>2394391
Oh I get you. Does Eno qualify as bourgeoisie? What means of production would he own in this case that he extracts surplus from?

>>2394394
Although I'd like 2 add that I do think 'wealth quantity' matters as well? Because capital is liquid for buying labour, so even if someone isn't strictly bourgeoisie it does matter 'how much money they have' IMO.

>>2394398
oh and also, I would think reducing the rate of profit by adding a wealth tax is helpful for those ends? I'm just spitballing though kinda… the bourgeoisie as long as they have power can overturn this but it's something towards reducing their power, influence, utility IMO

>>2394398
Yes if you have a lot of spare money that does make you bourgeois pretty much since money = capital. Idk if he is bourgeois, but he is a liberal (actually I don't know I've never heard of him or any of these musicians), and I don't think allying with liberals is really progressive right now.

>>2394573
Actually nah allying with some social democrats against the libfash might be progressive right now. Especially the trade union ones and the national bourgeois parties of Wales and Scotland.



/leftypol/

 

Israel is pissin me off. They're genociding palestinians and making fun of black people by calling them monkeys. The sheer audacity is ridiculous.
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This is the jewish equivalent of if the pope of christianity called black people monkeys but that would never happen.

Pisses me off too.

we nee d to do something to isaerl……..

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these israeli guys… id ont know… they're kinda out there ya know



/leftypol/

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I'm from Poland. I noticed how much I want to make money from music and from jobs I make. But I'm also starting to notice how money breaks famillies down. I noticed how I'm becoming unhappy with being groomed to only pursue money, if no then they call me a "dirty commie".
Honestly why do I feel unhappy in the Capitalist system, but yet rivarly, money-making for the sake of making money, dog-eat-dog situation were so normalized to me. ANd I'm arguing against my mother and at times my father over the fact "I'm not able to make money".
If I'm not able to make money, I'm called "the welfare queen" and such, at least here in Poland and called someone akin to a s*bhuman.
Talk me out of it, I feel terrible, my mental health took a toll, finally.
I get bullied about this very fact.
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>dog-eat-dog situation
the real competition is proletariat gaining territory and control over the means of production. Neoliberals with this zero-sum mindset want fewer doctors who have less competition so they can gain more profit off sick children. We must struggle to buildi more hospitals and more schools for universal healthcare
>>2379562
>>In the same way, feudal landed property gives its name to its lord
"landlords" attacking and dethroning God…but they aren't gods. They aren't even strong!
> the feudal lord does not try to extract the utmost advantage from his land. Rather, he consumes what is there and calmly leaves the worry of producing to the serfs and the tenants.
Trump voting petite bourgeois boat owners: "my Latino workers are different, I NEED my undocumented globalization slave caste to survive as a kulak!"

>>2379524
Money is the worst thing to be invented by humans it has made the world corrupt and horrible

>>2379744
100% On Point Tactical Trvke

>>2379534
they said the very same thing about automatization and yet for the last 100 years everyone's had to work nonetheless

>>2379524
money is horrible



/leftypol/

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DeepSeek use to be very good and based. It was a bit of a libtard but you could very easily change its mind and then it would post very based stuff. Now there has been some sort of update. Now it’s a turbo liberal Zionist and you can never ever change its mind. It will just endlessly post libtard and Zionist propaganda nonstop if you try to argue with it. Sad that such a good app is ruined now. Weird considering it is Chinese you’d think it would be different but no it is just as bad as whatever USA liberal garbage ai now.
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>>2394025
don't you people feel like idiots 'argueing' with a chatbot?

>>2394025
>>2394055
>Debate addicts are learning to debatesturbate with personal AI chatbots
Surely Twitter be gone within the year, it's final niche has been displaced.

>>2394055

It's just for fun. But I also was wondering what Deepseek take on Stalin was, given Deepseek is based in China. I am massive disappointed in the CPC for allowing historical nihilism about Stalin.

>>2392787
>discussing politics with an LLM

>>2392787
The maseter American Race wins again. Toital Communist chink failure.



/latam/

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O que aconteceu com os grupos que protegem a laicidade do governo?
Faz anos que já não ouso mais falar da Atea, do monstro de spaghetti voador.
Parece que não existem mais enquanto se prolifera esses OFF THE KING OFF THE PAWA mini pastores.
A secularição do país que parecía está indo a mil por hora a 15 anos atrás desapareceu por completo.
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>>9412

Teologia da libertação foi disseminada pelo baixo clero e é condenada pela Igreja. Aliás, um bocado de Papa fez tour pela América Latina justamente com o intuito de combater a popularidade dela aqui.

>responsável pela eleição de TODOS os líderes de esquerda na américa latina


Todos eles uns merdas também, diga-se de passagem.

>>9424
>Teologia da libertação foi disseminada pelo baixo clero e é condenada pela Igreja. Aliás, um bocado de Papa fez tour pela América Latina justamente com o intuito de combater a popularidade dela aqui.

o que não possui relação alguma com o ponto que eu apresentei

>Todos eles uns merdas também, diga-se de passagem.

belíssima análise e argumentação, parabéns pra você e pra quem for da sua família!

Pessoal acha que ateuzete cringe tem o mesmo poder de destruição de crente que quer transformar o país em uma colônia de Israel. Dá nisso.
Sem falar que a economia e os níveis educacionais (que já eram péssimos) caíram muito desde 2014, terreno perfeito para radicalização religiosa.
>>9412
Os esquerdistas que mais conseguiram pressionar a sociedade a mudar foram os anarquistas de 17 e a intentona de 35 que forçaram o trabalhismo do Vargas para impedir novas revoluções, não é querendo diminuir a influencia da teologia da libertação mas isso é reducionismo.

>>9442
os anarquistas de 17 se restringiram, principalmente, em três cidades, não tem como comparar com um movimento que influencia até hoje o continente inteiro

e a intentona tem o pequenino detalhe que foi derrotada, né, sem apoio popular, militar, político, a grande conquista foram migalhas entregues pelo GV, e não a tomada do poder

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/leftypol/

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Cute Girls Doing Cute State Investments Edition

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
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>>2393929
French TV is just repeating the baseless lies of the ukraine regime and pretending it's news. The west has been doing this pretty much the whole time.

>>2394374
>paid
any chance of getting around it?

>>2394410
which one of them? I could probably get you all of three.

>>2394419
https://archive.ph/KDHXp FT
>Volodymyr Zelenskyy accused of authoritarian slide after anti-corruption raids

https://archive.ph/yTISV The Spectator
>Ukrainians have lost faith in Zelensky

Hersh's is the only one I couldn't get.

>>2393815
You are not allowed to use that flag, a very based poster once used that flag



/lgbt/

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repression general - "its over" edition

finally i can stop using 4chan now that this board exists
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>>867
>non femboy millennial twink looking dude
>non

>non meaning NOT

>meaning Hasan does NOT look like a femboy nor a twink or a millennial varient thereof

>>745
There is another thread on the board about a trans revolutionary fighter in the Philipenes who was recently martyred. This is not an excuse. You will probably be able to serve the revolution better after transitioning because you will have solved a difficult internal contradiction within yourself, placing yourself in a better position for revolutionary work.

sometimes when i feel really malebrained, i start having fantasies of being a cold stoic sniper who loves animals but will be ur worst nightmare if u ever beyray or cross him……..

>>3486
maybe i could be the woman version of tjat




/latam/

 

HILO LATINOAMERICANO
EDICION MURO PROPIO
Terminamos el año con una victoria mas de los socialdemocratas en Uruguay y con Pepe Mujica en modo espectro alentando a los jovenes a militar
¡A Darle con Todo!
Para luego buscarlo en el catálogo:
Latinoamérica, Latin America, LATAM, /lat/, latinoamérica, latino américa, hispanoamerica, /ñ/
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Voy a serles honesto, realmente los países Iberoamericanos necesitan desperdiciar gran parte del gasto publico en tener un ejercito grande y moderno? En países con conflictos internos tales como Colombia o México dado a la escala y naturaleza de sus conflictos internos, realmente no se hace uso de vehículos aéreos con excepción de helicópteros y a lo mucho se usan lanchas para navegar ríos por lo que tampoco encuentro justificado la compra de enormes barcos militares, ni tampoco es que importe tener el armamento más reciente ya que de todas formas se sigue peleando con armas de la guerra fría.

También, realísticamente hablando ningún país va a entrar en conflicto directo con otro ya que eso destruiría la pobre economía de ambos lados. De igual forma encuentro absurdo la competencia online entre países por ver quien tiene el ejercito más moderno o quien tiene el mejor arsenal y en mayor cantidad.

Lo único que se consigue con esta expansión de las fuerzas armadas es desperdiciar recursos que se podrían usar para mejorar la vida del ciudadano promedio, también es por este medio que los países aumentan su sumisión al NATO-imperialismo, no solo lo digo por la compra de vehículos y armamento ya que por ejemplo en Colombia los políticos de derecha neo-conservadores (que desafortunadamente aún existen en pleno 2025) mantienen viva la narrativa de la guerra fría en la que los supuestos aliados están cooperando para lidiar contra un enemigo común.

Y para los larpers de Venezuela, cualquier intervención hipotética del ejercito bolivariano por fuera de su propio territorio haría más daño a la "revolución" que buscan al generar apatía por ser atacados. Ya de por sí se le acusa a Venezuela constantemente de estar cooperando con todos los grupos guerrilleros de izquierda existentes.

>>9778
Justo hoy dia me sale en el feed esto jajaja
Bueno, en general las republicas dependientes del "orden internacional" saben todo lo que has dicho, por lo que el gasto militar se mantiene en escalas bajas, especialmente que mientras vivamos bajo dicho "orden" dado por el norte la posibilidad de que las fronteras cambien es casi nula.
Pero el poder nace del fusil, y mantener contentos a los generales de todas las armas es algo fundamental dentro de las obligaciones de los estadistas patrios. Y en el caso de venezolanos, es importante la sustuticion de importaciones en algo tan basico como la municion

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Una imagen que encontre al respecto, jajaja ecuador y uruguay altos jajaja

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Las recientes protestas en la Ciudad de México indican una fea tendencia de la población Mexiquense. Aunque es una tendencia común. Los Mexicanos no son inmunes a sentimientos reaccionarios. Pero como? se estarán preguntando. ¿Acaso no estas protestas nacen de agravios legítimos? ¿No es cierto que "nómadas digitales" han gentrificado a la Ciudad de México y otras ciudades latinoamericanas similares? Pues si. Todo eso es cierto. Y son innegables las historias de citadinos que han tenido que abandonar la ciudad a causa de rentas insostenibles. Sin embargo, en las manifestaciones se observa principalmente un enojo hacia extranjeros, hacia Estadounidenses, cuando la realidad es que no es su llegada la principal causa del incremento de rentas en la ciudad. El costo de rentas en CDMX ha incrementado principalmente debido a la política del gobierno y su inacción en ciertos respectos. Principalmente la construcción de nuevas viviendas. La solución por lo tanto a este problema es la misma solución que la izquierda Estadounidense pide a gritos para solucionar el mismo problema en sus ciudades. Es una combinación de construcción de nuevas viviendas (idealmente de alta densidad) y el control de rentas, no la expulsión de extranjeros. Creo que la presidenta acertó al denunciar demostraciones xenofóbicas. En mi opinión letreros como el de la imagen son particularmente vergonzosos.

>>9796
Ninguna población es inmune a tendencias reaccionarias, especialmente en un contexto de extraordinaria violencia vs migrantes en EEUU que atizan fuegos nacionalistas. Te guste o no, los gringos se han voluntariamente convertido en la cara de la gentrificación en CDMX, además de que han votado por alguien que opta por transparentemente inflingir violencia imperial en sus estados vasallos. En vez de andar de wokescold insportable y regañar a manifestantes, la oportuidad es lograr organizar a la masa que ha reaccionado y se ve afectada por la gentrificación y por fin organizar un sindicato de inquilinos que hace tantísima falta, tal como lo han hecho en barcelona.



/tech/

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GrapheneOS cannot be fully trusted because it runs on Google's proprietary hardware stack, which remains a critical vulnerability. While GrapheneOS markets itself as a privacy-focused alternative, its security is undermined by the fact that it operates on devices like Google's Pixel smartphones—hardware designed and controlled entirely by Google. Unlike other OEMs, Google does not merely integrate off-the-shelf components; it designs its own processors (e.g., Tensor chips) and develops the closed-source firmware and software that power them. Other manufacturers receive binary blobs from chipmakers, which they cannot modify, but Google retains unilateral authority to embed hidden functionalities or surveillance mechanisms directly into the hardware-software ecosystem.

This means Google could inject malicious code into the processor’s firmware—code that operates independently of Android (and thus independently of GrapheneOS itself). Such malware would run at the hardware level, bypassing the operating system entirely and evading detection. If Google exploits this capability in its proprietary GApps, the same logic applies to the foundational software controlling its processors. Since GrapheneOS cannot audit or modify these closed-source components, users are left exposed to potential backdoors.

If you trust GrapheneOS on Pixel devices, you must also trust Google’s closed-source hardware stack—the very same infrastructure that could enable pervasive surveillance. In that case, there is no meaningful distinction between GrapheneOS and stock Android; both rely on Google’s opaque technology. Conversely, if you reject GApps and Google’s data harvesting, you cannot reconcile that distrust with reliance on Google’s hardware. To truly deGoogle, you must abandon devices where the manufacturer controls the silicon itself.
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>>30615
https://nicholasjohnson.ch/2023/10/26/join-extinction-rebellion-now/
>unambiguously and transparently a CIA agent
https://nicholasjohnson.ch/2022/03/27/on-transgender-athletes/
https://nicholasjohnson.ch/2023/11/26/re-on-transgender-athletes/
>That makes slop articles about heritage foundation talking points
You have to be a google shill trying to muddy how people view critique of it.

>>30616
Let me guess: He is also a nazbol?

>>30617
> Let me guess: He is also a nazbol?
how should anyone know, he's literally just some guy with a blog, i really tried to dig into him to find if he's anywhere close to relevant

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/latam/

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Is this country too far gone? It seems that the DR is utterly lolbert brained and stooges of the US, there is very little if not any strong labor movement which was destroyed during the Trujillo years.
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El país de los negros racistas LOL

Debieron haberse quedado con el voto de que iban a ser parte de los yunaites, se hubieran ahorrado el trujillismo y simplemente hubiesen sido un Hawai caribeño

>>9823
DR would've just been like Puerto Rico with a bunch of them just leaving for NYC and Florida anyways

>>9824
Claro, similar pero no igual, su geografia e historia social son distintas entre ambas, una colonia que pasa de mano en mano y la otra en ese caso una efimera republica, el desarrollo de los nacionalismos hubiera cambiado.
Ademas, el rol visto entre la DR y Haiti tambien hubiese cambiado, siendo ya uno una provincia gringa



/leftypol/

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This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators
Sorted by last name
>Paul Cockshott
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>>2391955
>>2391829
Would it do any good to make the bot/algo now and kinda predict how things will turn out and how it could've been mitigated? Or would it be a waste of resources?

>>2392032
we need the data first of all. without real data we'd just be engaging in mental masturbation

>>2391961
I don't get this. It was always about "socially necessary labor time" which means the average of time needed to do a certain amount of work. Of course given more efficient technology and shit you'll be able to cut down on the time needed to produce something, but it doesn't mean that you won't allow "normal paced work". tbh this feels like a straw man

>>2392032
the only data available to us is things like global market trading and stuff, but it's not enough
you would need intricate details on production of most companies, and the data is obviously not available anywhere

the best way to achieve this (besides revolution) would be to have one of us inside the financial department of each of the big corpos of the world, I don't see it happening

>>2394178
>"socially necessary labor time" which means the average of time needed to do a certain amount of work
But anon, that's about the normal price of the product (that is disregarding gluts and shortages, sin taxes and other things I don't strongly feel about one way or another). The post is about remunerating the workers, which is something else. An example that illustrates this difference between setting prices and remuneration: It will not happen at once that some procedure for making a mass-produced item gets replaced by something superior using different machinery. So for some time people will work with the updated procedure and others with the old procedure. The item's normal price is then based on the two procedure's weighted average (each procedure weighted by number of units it produces). But the expectation of how productive a worker should be when producing said item will use at least two base standards, depending on where you work (the base standard expectation getting further modified by other issues like being old but still capable of work).

>it doesn't mean that you won't allow "normal paced work". tbh this feels like a straw man

Read the post again. Of course there will be some standard of normally paced work. The point is that individuals should not be forced to work at one standard pace if it is technically possible to organize work at varying pace, which is almost always and everywhere the case, it just is a tiny bit annoying to do that organizing for the people with the decision power over that, which is why this often doesn't happen.

People on the radical left often dislike the idea of piece wages and they have some remarks by Marx they believe back up their position. But those remarks were about capitalism. If society is otherwise different enough (no threat of being unemployed for once, no threat of being homeless), then basing part of individual remuneration in individual output and allowing the worker a variation in pace can be better for me than administration exactly fixing my pace (even if at a humane level).



/games/

 

- Games about Horse Racing,
- actual Horse Racing,
- Your favorite horse,
- related media, etc…

## Links
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse_racing
https://umamusu.wiki/Main_Page
Admittedly don't know much about horse racing myself so if you got more links feel free to share.

I want to be horsefemmed by Agnes Tachyon



/leftypol/

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I'm noticing patterns recently with the most authoritarian communists on this board, the internet and in real life (though rarer in real life due to most of these people being shut-in freaks)
>calls themself an authoritarian communist, even though:
>>they literally don't have a job, or they have a "job" that they only got because one of their parents got them said job
>>is not involved in any way, shape, or form in the union at their place of employment, in fact actively despises colleagues and working class people in general because they might have less than politically correct opinions on things
>>has read all the material, and autistically corrects people on getting things wrong with regards to said material…to the point that they will alienate away anyone that might've actually been interested in left wing ideas
>>has LOTS OF OPINIONS on the politics of countries they only found out about because they watched a youtube video/wikipedia'd "what parties are left wing", lives in the middle of bumfucknowhere USA
>>continuing on with the previous point, will say insane, outlandish shit like "heh….everyone in X country should've just been genocided when X communist leader was in charge" in a tongue in cheek way, which only their weird orbiter followers will realise is a 'joke' while anyone else thinks they are fucking insane
>>freakishly obsessed with nerd hobbies to the point that it's offputting to anyone normal

Am I wrong in saying I think these sorts of people should be pulled away from leftist spaces for being annoying little LARPers? They always seem to be the "frontline" for left-wing discussions online for some reason, I assume because they have more time on their hands than people actually doing things in the real world.
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>>2389534
never heard this before but it sounds like a good idea. i head that in some countries they even send people to school and teach them how to read. we could start with people like OP

>>2392002
On top of that, I also have an irrational hatred of the irish
Begorra
Potato obsessed people, the real drivers behind american imperialism
>>2393578
What if you happen to notice a pattern of people noticing wrong patterns? What then, huh?

>>2393696
>(not)i(ci)n(g)ception

Political extremism dark triad narcissism something something

>>2393988
>liberalism liberalism liberalism something
yeah yeah 💥 yeah yeah yeah 💥💥💥 ok



/leftypol/

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>>2393912
Private tutoring is a parasitic behaviour of its own, in India the government doesnot invest in education sectors and government schools, but allows private tutoring, which in turns charges thousands of rupees for highly competitive exams, this business are so big that a whole city just runs on this business (Kota in Rajastha), they are higly predatory, if you want to see what private tutoring can become, see India's education system. You will see horrors of unimaginable order. Fuck I hate my country

>>2394047
I'm sorry Indiabro. not a great situation. unrelated but I visited rajastha one time and it was my favorite part of the country. chand baori would be a great place to shoot movies

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>>2393338
>It's a BOTW ripoff
You still on this after 5 years? Do you still call FPS games "Doom clones"?
>>2393845
>From Occupied Palestine, China has received loads of military tech, the J-10 that was in the news for shooting down the Rafale may have been based on an Occupier prototype called the "Lavi"
Very interesting that the True Socialists use the literal exact same arguements used by American jingoists 20 years ago to demean Chinese engineering. Kind of like how they became Palestine's bestest friend after they discovered they could use this against China as though they were the ones supplying free bombs to the tune of billions to Tel Aviv. The J-10 looks like the Lavi for the same reason that it looks like the Eurofighter, Novi Avion and Rafale - because this was the trend in fighter design during the 1980s when it was designed. There was also a cancelled fighter called the J-9 that looks a lot like the J-10 and is the most likely influence for the J-10. There's absolutely no evidence that the J-10 is a "Lavi clone" or that anything other than Chinese engineering was used to create the J-10.

>>2393912
this guy has to be a gusano

>>2393996
>>2394008
>>2394047
>>2394230
This is who I’m talking about. Also he’s not a gusano because he lives in China but he’s definitely a rightist. He opposes US hegemony but he’s heavily critical of the CPC and takes a heavily rightist stance. As I pointed out his only favored Chinese policy that is leftist in his own words is state investment into infrastructure.



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