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>>2494177
They buy in whole-sale dork. It's much more expensive to buy in print to order.



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Thread for news and discussions of the Lao People's Democratic Republic, its material conditions, the status and health of its aesocialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.
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>>2508640
It's crazy 3/4 of the Lao peoples lives in Thailand, got brainwashed since centuries but no Western NGO say anything about it. If Thailand was communist and Lao capitalist every liberal would call for Lao separatism

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>>2508658
hell yeah laosanon you're damn right

>>2508693
theyve got a problem with human trafficking in laos

>>2508658
man i wish that was me
>>2508703
in myanmar and cambodia also. more so in laos and myanmar since golden triangle

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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Houston, We Have A Problem Edition

Or, How I Learned To Stop Worrying And Love Just One More Lane Bro

Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich: Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

🏈 💵 🌭 🍔

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>>2509230
>No I'm asking for you to elaborate on what specifically Marx was wrong about
The idea that there was no family unit in hunter gatherer society

>>2509213
>Both of those are supported by evidence
yes of course, but a person could easily say "were you there?" as a counter. So it was a weak counter argument to say that in response to Marx/Engels on anthropology (they were going by what was known at the time).

>Family is essential - whether in nuclear or, better yet, extended forms - for a healthy society of well adjusted people

OK so it's clear that we're having a language thing here. By family you mean something much wider than what I was talking about. We probably don't even disagree. I was more talking about the form of the family that arrives with class society.

>>2509171
>You a brocialist chad via labour?
Yup. I burn 3k calories via labour every day.

>>2509232
> (they were going by what was known at the time).
Subsequently shown to be wrong. That's all I'm saying.
>I was more talking about the form of the family that arrives with class society.
Fair enough. But SOME midwits conflate ALL form of family with capitalist oppression eg radlibs and bourg pomo feminists
>>2509233
Nice

>>2509234
>Nice
Yes, and no. I'm willing to burn twice as much if we were building socialism with my calories. This, now, is a necessity for survival.



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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
ɢʀᴀʙ ᴀ ᴘᴀɪʀ ᴏꜰ sᴘᴇᴄᴛᴀᴄʟᴇs

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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>>2509021
is that white Kash Patel? Lmao

>>2509047
No that's Nash Patrick

this is u

>>2508287
Nazbol 2 Pretentious "metamodern" edition

They are not putting restrictions on AI videos or necessitating labeling them by law because they purposefully want to muddy the waters. Instead of claiming fake news they will just say it‘s AI and it will be technically possible since AI videos will be indistinguishable from real footage in the next few years.



 

LEFTYBRITPOL GENERAL

Fat Scouse Edition
Another shitty thread for the Shitty Isles, for the naive Sultanah glazers, for the Jesus Corbyn worshippers, for the Nigel Farage enjoyers.
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>>2508708
Why do they write like this? it's hard to take seriously.
>For those who correctly suspected ‘Metreweli’ did not carry the typical Briton look—you’ve keen eyes.
Lmfao. honestly.

>>2508888
He's a barely sane rightoid but the information is there.

>>2508713
>Obsessively watching adverts
No one suggested that
>to try and divine a deep meaning
No one implied that
Cope more

>>2506818
There's no conspiracy, just a bunch of counterintuitive market forces.
1. Minoritarianism. Why do all supermarkets stock halal/kosher food when only a fraction of the population has those religions? shouldn't 70% of supermarkets lack those products? No. That's intuitive, but it's wrong. There's an asymmetry of preferences: non-muslims/jews don't usually object to halal/kosher food (if they morally disapprove, it doesn't show at the checkout) while muslims/jews do object to non-halal/kosher food. Therefore, you gain a competitive advantage by stocking kosher/halal food even when the population share of people with that dietary preference is relatively low. If there's an asymmetry in the effectiveness of advertising (e.g. minorities respond more positively to portrayal than white people respond negatively to their non-portrayal), the same effect applies. (This also covers the "white man playing music" example: A pakistani man who sees a man like himself doing something bad is going to respond negatively to the advert and not do what it says. If old white men don't play music on the train, it doesn't matter if you offend them because they're not doing the offensive thing in the first place.)
2. Have you ever noticed how beauty companies - who produce expensive products for negative-sum social status games - are always running the wokest adverts on TV? Forget "oh, everyone in this advert is a wheelchair bound black lesbian", they run fucking lectures about the value and beauty of disabled, minority, mensturating, etc, bodies. Why?
Look at a fucking poll! Because young women love that shit! The fact that your product is fundamentally not-woke but your consumer-base is fundamentally woke creates a massive need to go "yeah, obviously beauty standards are problematic, but we here at dove hear you, those feelings are valid, we're the beauty product with a social conscience"

Advertising works by sending a costly social signal to everyone out there. Want to look normal? Drink a coke. Why? Because coke have flooded society with the message that coke is what you drink to be normal. Want to be a bit weird and self-indulgent? Have a Dr. Pepper - you deserve a treat. Scottish? Irn Bru is made in Scotland from Girders (and aspartame). You then buy the product linked with the image you want to project to thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2507988

I haven't been on here in a few weeks, cool to see this weirdo is still having his daily autistic meltdowns about 'ethnics'



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>>2509018
I think the thing you're missing is the fact that a lot of these right-wing populist parties that appear to be slaking the thirst for disruptive politics and attacking the "elitism" of the status quo, never actually end up doing anything to that effect once elected. Or even while unelected the ostensibly populist rhetoric is merely a thin veneer over extremely pro-establishment positions that will appeal to the bourgeois political funders, where they're either fearful of something genuinely disruptive growing or otherwise are pissed off at losing out in the only democracy that exists, amongst themselves as the bourgeoisie and need to have a second attempt by briefly including proles in their spat by throwing some populist chum to shake the support of the established parties a bit.

Like, despite the hitherto narrative being that the EU and NATO were extremely popular in central and eastern Europe due to the inherent threat Putinist Russia supposedly posed to former Communist states, paradoxically, support is flaking for both in the face of a sustained, armed European conflict with Russia because that now involves spending tax Euros, Krona, Zloty, etc on Ukraine at the demand of Washington DC and Brussels rather than solely on the interests of the domestic bourgeoisie.

So the domestic bourgeoisie of these countries start to see EU and NATO membership as "empire" because they're coming to realise the capital they've generated via membership isn't entirely their capital, but via the state they've been claiming both have been saving their nations from empire for decades now, how do they 180 this? By now claiming that they're being culturally colonised by the same "woke mind virus" that Trump is banging on about, that such a thing doesn't exist in Russia and Russia has proven themselves to be quite harmless in Ukraine according to Cucktinists.

Next no doubt will come the attitude that if the former Communist states don't want to fund their own protection, then why should the western Europeans who "saved them" in the first place? But this process of telling the EU to fuck off an Poland Stronk the second EU/NATO stop paying out and start cashing in (as in the comic), cannot be delegated to anything other than a rightoid populist party because the lib-left are supportive of social progressive policies of the EU and, more importantly, won't just relinquish tax money from the command of Brussels and Washington but then have demands of their own about what state funds should instead be spent on while rightoids are happy to steal back money and have that just sit in the pocket of the wealthy, so long as it's the pocket of their own wealthy.

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>>2509139
Does EU have the balls to do something funny?

>>2509170
Poland be like
>GIVAS
and unlike Ukraine they don't even have the excuse of fighting an active war.

>>2509170
capitalism is great until you run out of other peoples money!



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That Sumud Flotilla right is going to Gaza to break the Israeli blockaid. Inspired by the Thunburg Flotilla, the Sumud Flotilla contains far more ships in an attempt to overwhelm the Israeli Navy and Coastguard. The Sumud Flotilla departed from Spain at the end of August and is scheduled to be joined by more ships from Tunisia alter today. They expect to arrive at Gaza sometime next week.
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>>2509178 (You) (me)
And that was happening during the height of the genocide, highly publicized and available. The bulk of the killing and famine took part during the overwhelming silence and inaction of the very same organizations rallying around the flotilla now.

What "it signals" is that the current wave of "civil society"(read: apolitical) protests are a result of the mobilization efforts of those otherwise complicit unions, which are associated to liberal parties accomplice of the genocide, and not a grassroots effort or a response to the conditions imposed on Gazans.

We have a very simple empirical test for this, as well:

If the organizers are earnest they will eventually turn the outrage towards their own governments in supporting Trump's plan and the continued colonization of Gaza and Palestine in general.
But if they are, as I say, liberal Zionists running cover for the scheme… they will accept the "two state solution" and the coming retread of Oslo as a good thing and not the legitimization of the second Nakba and impunity of Israel that it actually is.

We'll see in less than a year who was right.

>>2508847
our narodnik

>>2508370
she's so fucking cool

>>2508402
the fact that one boat got as far as it did shows that with enough boats some might actually make it through. also they need to be able to defend themselves. deck guns and small arms. but that would be too cool so that's not going to happen




 

sure is weird how the right act all smug towards the left whenever an Islamist kills people. If they had the power to recall events that didn't involve twitter, they'd remember that actually it was the left who warned the right not to create/elevate:

-Wahhabism in the first place in Saudi Arabia,
-the Muslim Brotherhood to power in Egypt in the 1960s to destroy secular Arab socialism,
-the Afghan Mujahideen,
-the Islamic Republic of Iran,
-Al Qaeda, Hamas,
-ISIS/Daesh,
-about 4 different sides of the Libyan shitshow, (but mostly the ones who love turning Libya's ancient city squares into giant open-air slave markets)
-HTS,

the left is CURRENTLY warning the right about the 'Popular Forces' they're creating in Gaza now, and the left will be warning them about the next set of terror-mercs they fund, arm and train in order to achieve some foreign policy goal in MENA.

But they won't listen, because the people making these decisions and coming up with the propaganda in defence of them aren't the ones who'll be killed in their millions abroad and in their dozens at home. They'll get their 10 years in the Cabinet, enough to make a few hundred mil inside trading under their spouses' names, and then they can spend the rest of their life doing lucrative speaking tours of US college and tech-company campuses and thinktank, hailed by their own as an Elder Statesman and Hard-headed Newsmen who Told It Like It Was And Never Compromised, and they'll probably die of old age before the water runs out and the inevitable consequences arrive.

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from the onion in 2003

>>2507578
you forgot ETIM

I would argue that the rise of radical Islamic fundamentalism in the Middle East had more to do with geographical happenstance than anything else. Saudi Arabia found itself sitting atop oil reserves worth a few quadrillion dollars and used their unlimited disposable income to fund the largest and most effective propaganda campaign in history.

>>2509163
The British Empire supported Wahhabists in the House of Saud all the way back in the 1700s as a proxy force against the Ottomans, before petroleum was even relevant.

>British diplomat Harford Jones-Brydges, who was stationed in Basra in 1784 attributed the popular hysteria about the Wahhabis to a different cause. Unlike Ottoman depictions, Brydges believed that Ibn Abd al-Wahhab's doctrine was in keeping with the teachings of Quran, was "perfectly orthodox", "consonant to the purest and best interpretations of that volume", and that Ottomans feared its spread precisely on that basis.


Now why would a British man in the 1700s have such a strong opinion on Wahhabism being "perfectly orthodox?"



 

My understanding is that the basis of capitalism is essentially the capacity for capitalists (owners of capital) to rise in power which is equal to or above the government under which they supposedly exist. It is the "deep state" of the economy. Yes, there is a class situation, but it is the capitalist class' unique ability to completely overwhelm the other classes with power that we define "capitalism" as.

With that being said, any business which is capable of expanding (not limited by logistics, communications, language restrictions, etc), would like to do so. That means the only difference between actual globalism and proto-globalism, which took shape in not only the early stages of capitalism but even the classical era (think Phoenicians, Babylonians, etc), is the technological means of projecting power. If economics are downstream from power politics, then capitalism as an economic system is downstream from owners of capital engaging in political maneuver.
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>>2509093
The capitalist mode of production affects even the stateless and regions contested without a state, exploitation can occur without a state, property laws originated before the capitalist mode of production, enforcement of any "law" only requires brute force. Money as a universal commodity existed prior to the capitalist mode of production. Capitalists only require the state instrument because of its efficiency in enforcement, not because its a vital need which without capitalism would cease to exist.

>>2509102
And I'm not writing this to defend the idea, I'm saying Proudhon and Bakunin were wrong and were on route to recreate market dynamics and have had their movement fall into contradictions because of the refusal to accept Marx's analysis of the capitalist mode of production. The contradiction between Marx and Proudhon was on the instrumentality of the state, the contested later became neglected within anarchist circles as they went onto become astroturfed by socialdemocratic liberal trends and engage in praise of lesser evil states and national liberation (state creation) movements. Mutualist economics are those of trade, "equilivent exchange" and the outcome of which is accumulation of resources, creating purchasing power by barter / exchange, placing those who have nothing to exchange at a disadvantage as they may trade a coat for bread in the winter when coats are scarce, in spite of the two not being of equal value. Marx's position on the instrumentality of the state remains contested, as does the following program of withering after so-called socialization and a replacement by an administration of things. The function of the state remains that of a violent enforcer, any and all tasks outside of organized violence are not performed by the state but by workers and managers.

>>2509108
Self proclaimed anarchists who see no issue with markets wish to instrumentalize the market economy and capital for their own gain, ancraps want to accumulate it as to empower themselves whereas others which claim to be "anti-capitalist" believe that they can somehow cause redistribution and equalization of wealth by engaging in market economics as an instrument to compete against big capital - the epitome of petite-bourgeoisie aspirations.

>>2509102
>Capitalists only require the state instrument because of its efficiency in enforcement, not because its a vital need which without capitalism would cease to exist.
who enforces property law in the absence of a state

>>2506494
yeah and globalism is just proto-communism. once the whole world is one corporation workers just have to seize it.

jk capitalism is proto-communism and imperialist peace is fake. you can see this in the globalists rampaging around and failing to spread "democracy"



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