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 No.23386[Reply]

<If you were to criticize blockchain technology from a purely technical perspective, you might point out the flaw that proof of work requires an exponentially increasing amount of computational power, and thus electricity, in order to keep the blockchain database alive over time. You might point out how inefficient of a database it is. But you would be missing the point. Blockchain technology excites investors precisely because of how wasteful it is. Even if we had fusion (!!) it would eat up all that energy and more. It's difficult to express the magnitude of how wasteful this is, and the fact that it's built into the system intentionally is sinister.

<LLMs offer an even more ideal kind of software to the investor. First of all they require an enormous amount of capital to train, and specialized hardware to run, making them suitable to offer as a service, where the amount of profit can be made to go up in a controlled manner. What a delicious idea.


<More to my point, they offer a host of subjective, ill-defined tasks that are immune to being completed. They've managed to take something well-defined, well-scoped, and completable, and turn it into an untameable monster that will be sure to offer software churn for decades to come.


<LLMs are a way to make software take orders of magnitude more computational power, electricity, and human labor, while delivering a product whose extremely volatile quality is impossible to assure. The work will never be completed; it will only create the need for ever more labor.

https://andrewkelley.me/post/why-we-cant-have-nice-software.html

do you agree with the author? a priori it seems like an accurate description but I'm having trouble understanding two things:
>if the llm/blockchain software is worse than the discrete alternatives, why do people still prefer them? marketing?
>how does this fit in the ltv, where you usually want to outperform the average socially necessary labor?
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 No.23542

>LLMs offer an even more ideal kind of software to the investor. First of all they require an enormous amount of capital to train, and specialized hardware to run, making them suitable to offer as a service, where the amount of profit can be made to go up in a controlled manner. What a delicious idea.

Open source LLMs are basically outperforming corpo ones

Leaked Internal Google Document Claims Open Source AI Will Outcompete Google And OpenAI
https://hackaday.com/2023/05/05/leaked-internal-google-document-claims-open-source-ai-will-outcompete-google-and-openai/

AIs don't really need specialozed hardware. A GPU is enough, the issue up until recently was that all major frameworks relied on CUDA, but they are already moving away from it.

 No.23543

>>23542
>AIs don't really need specialozed hardware. A GPU is enough
only because GPUs include the specialized hardware now. this is like saying that graphics don't require specialized hardware because some CPUs include integrated GPUs
why do you feel compelled to reply when you have no idea what you are talking about

 No.23544

>>23543
You talk about GPUs as if they haven't been shipped with even the lowest end office pc for the last 30 years.
For what it matters, even keyboards and mouses are specialized input hardware

> this is like saying that graphics don't require specialized hardware because some CPUs include integrated GPUs

You mean the thing which is actually the case in the real world?

 No.23545

>>23544
you are so dumb you didn't even register what I was talking about. GPUs from 30 years ago didn't have AI-specific hardware in them, neither did most consumer GPUs from 10 years ago. now if you buy a GPU you have to pay for the AI hardware in them that you are never going to use
AI requires specialized hardware in the GPU that is different from the hardware normally used for graphics

you didn't even get the analogy holy shit. what a moron

 No.23547

>>23545
>you are so dumb you didn't even register what I was talking about.
Are you Andrew Kelley then? The other poster was answering to Kelley's claim (quoted in OP) that LLMs "require" expensive hardware so that corporations will profit from offering them as a service.

Btw are you same nutcase who is randomly accusing people of being bitcoin shills ITT?



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 No.23514[Reply]

Are there any imageboards that allow CSS posting like on cohost?

 No.23524

how does cohost's CSS posting work?

 No.23525

>>23524
The composer accepts markdown, and that includes html, which is sanitized for safety reasons, but you can do in-line styling. The css crimes tag has a bunch of examples: https://cohost.org/rc/tagged/css%20crimes

 No.23527

4taba has a flash board where you can upload HTML5 instead of swf but I never saw it working.



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 No.23368[Reply]

I find this board adequate for my taste same as
4chan /g and lainchan.org any other like?
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 No.23400

>>23399
Is sharty even up?

 No.23405

>>23375
i read the kernighan & ritchie book, deep c secrets on college. i also read the tanenbaum OS book, but it was the one with dinos on it, not the one with racoons. tbh tanenbaum's covers are so cute, i just want to own one for the cover. i will never read it again lol

 No.23406

>>23405
I have a translated copy (it was going to be discarded from a library) but it's cover is just white :<

 No.23407

>>23374
The unix haters handbook is definitely worth a read for any linux user.

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 No.23448[Reply]

We need to make it hard for proprietary software to exist in certain sectors in life. if not outright illegal.
RMS used to talk about how schools should only teach using free software, have you made any effort to get your local school to use GNU/Linux?
other sectors include the government and public places.
we could start campaigning with other techies to get public terminals to use GNU such as public library computers for example (not sure who still goes there now a days kek)
but above all I think we should push for the private commercial sector, we need to make it so that certain kinds of software have to be open. software that can easily end up being monopolized should be made only available as free software. such as office tools and perhaps only serviced for money.
post more ideas comrades
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 No.23488

It's only a bandaid until open and free hardware becomes a thing which is only possible when workers control the means of production, software can't exist in a vacuum, it's like ying without the yang so to speak.

 No.23489

>>23488
Exactly.

 No.23490

>>23455
yeah, it's a shame. Why kind of cruel person would want to demoralize the handicapped? Their programmers can't code, their users do nothing useful and they erect arbitrary barriers to cope about their shit products. Be kind, anon, and let them have their autistic playpen.

 No.23493

>>23488
>>23489
good thing libre silicon is a thing then, and China is churning out millions if not billions of RISC-V CPUs among other things
besides RISC-V there are also projects like OpenRAM: https://openram.org/
on top of this you have yosys, and it would probably not be too difficult to design a completely libre FPGA

 No.23512

>>23493
That's actually pretty nice if that's actually true. But are RISK-V and FPGA ready for daily driving? And how does one get a laptop with one?



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 No.16206[Reply]

Are computers a branch of state/defense/power within the context of a communist party?
It seems they are only treated as tools for mass propaganda and outreach for most I've come into contact with (and with questionable results – amounting to retweeting each other or posting take downs as Facebook posts with hardly any engagement). Is this way of using the technology maybe a huge mistake setting us back currently, especially considering the media platforms often are confirmed police/SIGINT tools where our groups are indisputably targeted/sabotaged?

 No.23500

no

 No.23505

>>16206
also useful for storing, disseminating, and discussing educational material. Beyond mass propaganda, building repository of info relevant to your org, etc.

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 No.23507

>>23506
Is this from the author of ELIZA? Didn't he write a book like this, I can't remember the names.



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 No.15997[Reply]

How accurate is this video?

https://youtu.be/dnHdqPBrtH8
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 No.16075

Keeping up to date silicon fab is over for the west
China owns the high end fabs all of it now
https://gizmodo.com/intel-loses-500-million-dollars-price-hike-inflation-1849349160

 No.16076

>>16075
China’s semiconductor industry is still driven by western capital

 No.16077

>>16076
Not so much now zoom zoom

 No.16078

>>16077
I just realized, do you even know what capital is?

 No.23481

Bump or is there another thread on Soviet computing that this one could be merged into?



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 No.23072[Reply]

OH FUCK OFF
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 No.23110

incredible the frequency we see these retarded price shocks, random consumer goods doubling in cost in 4 months… neoliberalism is truly the end of history, JIT supply chains based on shipping individual components back and forth across the pacific 10 times to save pennies on manufacturing labor are truly the pinnacle of human development

 No.23116

>>23097
Just swap the tapes manually if you don't want to pay that much. You will need a tape drive though.

 No.23431

>>23101
>LTO-3
>LTO-4
Good luck finding anything that reads these formats in a few years.

 No.23478

>>23110
I think most people recognize that neoliberalism is trash, they just think the class struggle is dead or will lead to something even worse like HOLODOMOR or VUVUZELA.

Regarding the supply chains. This is truly garbage, I always supported localism instead of this bullshit (I hate nationalism though).

 No.23479

You should be using HDDs for your long-term storage anyway.
I don't know why you'd need a 2TB SSD unless you're a gaymer that wants to play all the new 200 GB AAA garbage.



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 No.22418[Reply]

I'm getting tired of relying on this website to log stuff that I watch
The social aspect is horrendous, full of Twitter personalities and reactionaries and wanna-be professional film critics
I want to be able to log films according to a calendar like the diary feature in Letterboxd, as well as put together a watchlist, all from a good comprehensive database
I'd also like to be able to "heart" or "like" films since numerical scales like 5 stars are kind of pointless, but I won't complain if I can't
FOSS is preferred
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 No.23136

>>23089
this. I never understood the compulsion to log media consumption. Who cares

 No.23137

>>22418
I just rate everything I watch on imdb, nobody's ever gonna read my reviews

 No.23159

>>23089
Forced humility is cringe. There's nothing wrong with sharing your thoughts or keeping a record for yourself.

 No.23167

>>23159
Forced humility is a spook and revisiting your collection of video games is based, they are works of art, you don't just throw Mona Lisa into the trash after you looked at it for, like, 5 minutes.

Ideally there should be public libraries with hundreds of SSDs stored to back up all this goodness. Or something like Project Guttenberg but for games but for that to be viable people need to have a lightspeed Internet connection so they can download anything in mere nanoseconds and SSDs that can withstand millions of rewrites. Books are way easier to delete off of your drive since they're very light, games can weight 10 gigs or more.

 No.23433

I just use trakt because it's easy to automate my watches from plex and jellyfin. If you want FOSS though maybe check out something like ryot. https://github.com/IgnisDa/ryot



 No.11693[Reply]

I bought a framework laptop because my previous one was so cheaply constructed that it literally disintegrated from use.

I quite like it. I'm not going to pretend that buying a product will solve any systemic capitalist evils like ending e-waste or granting a right to repair, but on a personal level, I'm hopeful to be able to avoid some common pitfalls with consumer products like disposability and planned obsolescence by being able to repair this thing myself or replace parts on it. Plus it seems pretty sturdily constructed in the first place. The keyboard's very crisp by laptop standards and is backlit (which is thoroughly unremarkable, but my previous laptop wasn't, because I lived in the stone age), the trackpad's nice, the screen is annoyingly glossy, though it is high resolution with a large color gamut. Hopefully they release a matte screen at some point. And being able to choose where the ports are on it is a bit of a godsend to deal with cable mess.

Thoughts on this thing?
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 No.22947

>>14990
>>22945
and an AMD version now, for that matter

 No.22949

>>20034
All well-known Linux distros are either maintained by corporations or corporation-paid freelancers or are forks of the aforementioned distros with tiny changes and configurations
Same with the big 3 BSDs

 No.22954

>>22949
if you feel you need to use an OS which had no corporation involved at any point in the development, then feel free to use templeOS or some meme shit like that. but the point of that comment was obviously about the lack of variety of OSes, which isn't much of a problem with linux because it's extremely configurable, documented, modular, and inspectable.

 No.22957

>>22954
Hyperbola ( https://hyperbola.info ) is a distro that wants to purge corporate influence from their distro.

Doesn't help that now it's basically a one-man project and the dev's english seems p retty much broken. Hyperbola's reasoning builds on https://logicmag.io/failure/freedom-isnt-free/ ( or maybe they just plagiarized parts of it ). I don't recommend reading the hyperbola writeup, it's broken english all the way down.

 No.23425

dumb fucks disallowed freight forwarding and now I can't get their laptop. way to go framework!
what a bunch of fucking low lifers, they only ship to very specific countries and keep telling their international customers to just wait. it's going to take them years to ship their product legally to the rest of the world. people started freight forwarding their products but then framework banned any discussion on their forums and made it harder to freight forward. what a bunch of morons.

YOU DON'T FUCK WITH YOUR CUSTOMERS. EVER.



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 No.15169[Reply]

In 2024 reddit will introduce heavenbanning, the hypothetical practice of banishing a user from a platform by causing everyone that they speak with to be replaced by AI models that constantly agree and praise them, but only from their own perspective, is entirely feasible with the current state of AI/LLMs.
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 No.23219

>>15169
>causing everyone that they speak with to be replaced by AI models that constantly agree and praise them
Wake up, Neo. The Matrix has you.

 No.23265

>>15182
>>15797
It's functionally useless to us, but for them they get to brainwash every wholesome doggo lover and casual using the platform. If you go to those kinds of places not realizing what they are you're just primed for brainwashing, and then you take those views into the real world and this massive cycle of retardation perpetuates itself courtesy of big tech.

(I know this is probably obvious to all of you but I had to just say it) The real world implications are tragic

 No.23371

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>when shadowbanning isn't passive aggressive and cowardly enough for libs they trap you in a painting
Solar flare or nuclear war can't come soon enough.

 No.23408

it's too much work, involves too much server load and it's too expensive to implement per banned user.

 No.23409

>>23371
its not real



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