Babies are about as useful as a cunt hair on a toilet seat. drooling parasites
The founder (Bukovinac) seems to have an awful lot of money and connections. PAAU was founded in 2021 and within six months they were already everywhere in the media, due to stealing those fetuses in the photo.
Thankfully their org is made up of like 14 people.
>>508684>find dead babies from a hospital>claim they are aborted>do photoshoots with the dead babies>ted cruz want the dead babies preserved in jars instead of buriedAmerican religious lunatics are something else.
wonder how much they get paid do u think its a lot
>>508710The sad thing is, autopsies were performed on those babies when they were first taken by DC police. Zero evidence of foul play was discovered and it was determined those fetuses were all aborted according to DC law.
Hell, we don't even know if they were all stillbirths.
>>508684The fact they only seem to work with right-wingers and get interviews from Seb Gorka and the Epoch Times is majorly sus.
>>508840 I'll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I've been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I'm the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little "clever" comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it.
>unattributed photo of some church group in winterwear
>their slogan is "(((They))) want to burn us"
>Are they confirmed an astroturf?
I don't quite get the question, they're a mishmash of other astroturfs, doesn't really make them a new one, just a glimpse at the already existing astroturf soup.
>>508848The group in question is Progressive Anti-Abortion Uprising, PAAU for short.
>>508861Un-ironed flags look douchey.
>>508684Shit, Holly looks like uncooked chicken stuffed with fried onions. Now I'm hungry.
>>508859Because fascist countries are definitely known for securing reproductive rights. Right.
>>508861>the captionsno wonder the kids are illiterate
>>508861The keffiyeh infuriates me.
>>508941 (me)
In that it makes pro-Palestine activists look stupid. Fuck her.
>>508937It's censorship because of algorithms
>>508945I hate that bullshit. “Unalived”, etc.
Zoomers and Gen alpha are going to have ridiculous issues with language.
>>508949Yeah no more precise language and I'm fucking tired of it. It reduces the gravity of everything.
>>508684Pretty much all right-wing organizations are astroturfed.
>>508684If it’s a psyop, who is funding them?
>>508951You're a naive fuck if you think it's just the right-wing. Left-wing groups are just as full of shit, if not more. Wake the fuck up.
>>509015I mean liberals orgs, yeah, but socialist ones not really.
>>509015>>509017You could say the left-wing of capital infiltrates leftist groups heavily, but the same is true of the right-wing of capital. PAAU, CPI, and the whole Neo-Larouche movement are pretty blatant examples of this: those orgs only exist to wreck the existing left.
>>508941I think it's more stuff like that, just gratuitously piling on signifiers, that makes it obviously an op rather than un-ironed flags.
>>508988Are you the anon that keeps posting this garbage in every thread? How much are you paid?
>>509015>both sides are bad!Nope, sorry lib. It's not even remotely the same. Some billionaires donating to Emily's List or whatever the fuck is not even remotely comparable to the entire right-wing ideological project being a capitalist construction.
>>509003C’mon bro. If you and your org could meet with mainstream politicians to discuss ending the war in Gaza you’d jump at the opportunity, principles be damned.
>>509048She's been sperging out over IVF for the past week on IG and Twitter. It's hilarious.
>>509055I hate to say it but “pro-Palestine” doesn’t mean “radical leftist”. There are fascists AND white liberals who are vocally pro-Palestine.
>>509203Yeah but these people aren't pro-palesting (or pro LGBTQ+BLM+whatever else is on that flag now). They are just grabbing the commodities associated with le left to astroturf their op as leftist.
>>508710There’s a reason this campaign of theirs is almost two years old and hasn’t done anything except give PAAU more $$$$$ via donations. That, and political clout by taking in some conservative members of Congress into their game.
>>508684Ask them what they think of Ceausescu.
>>508684Futurism > progressivism, progressivism is just repackaged secular morality. This is the proof of this.
>>509015Quote from man who thinks that liberal = leftist
>>509226To be quite honest, I wouldn't be surprised if the five fetuses have already been burned ages ago due to being a biohazard. No self-respecting medical examiner would touch those fetuses with a fifty foot poll.
>>508949>Getting pissed off about slang.You may as well go back to using pre-Shakespearean language.
"Adulting" and "anhero" are popular Millennial slang terms.
>>508937You sound like boomers
>>509742Keeping dead babies in a freezer for two years is hella exploitative.
>>5099044chan slang > TikTok euphemisms
>>509910See what I mean?
You guys are just as regressive as Boomers and have even worse hypocrisy.
>>509919TikTok is objectively cancer. Highly anti-intellectual too.
Also, I’m 27.
>>5099284chan is much worse.
TikTok also hs vudeos where you can learn cooking tips and other life hcks. You only pay attention to political humor crap.
4chan is nothing but funs taking about genitals and race.
>>509928Objection, TikTok is anti-intellectual but 4chan was and is still both pseudo-
and anti- intellectual. Don't let nostalgia fool you.
>>5099324chan and other imageboards have a special ability to outdo mainstream social media in toxicity.
Even Reddit and TikTok have some sense of humanity. At last on thise sites, theres more active threads abou hobbies and immoral posts are banned.
Here, any consrtuctive post is banned. But posts about being lobely and horny are allowed to stay up.
Most image board users are haughty mediocre "anti-normies".
>>509904It’s not “slang” though. It’s censorship.
>>509982Evn back then, alot of slang was due to censorship.
"Juke" , "heck" , "frick", etc.
>>509985reminder than the term weeb originates from a wordfilter.
>>509987Again, whats the difference?
>>508688So are pet dogs but nobody is ready for that conversation.
>>508684Honest question: why would any intelligent leftist want working people to have kids? Once you have kids you have a lot less time to organize. You can't be on the picket line at 8am if you have to drive your kids to school. Plus in this economy where inflation is off the charts and wages aren't getting any higher you'll be working your ass off to give your kids the bare minimum, even if you have a decent support system in your community.
>>509902Based.
>>510097Most working class adults feel.entitled to having a spouse and kids. Most of them lack the skills and patience to raise them.
I dont have much respect for married childrearing adults in this day and age. They were forewarned and have plenty of other options to live their adult lives but they chose to procreate instead and all they do is whine bitch and moan about how their kids are leeching off of them.
>>510319Roe was overturned coming out of covid because the ruling class needs to replace all the workers who were killed or made permanently disabled by covid. Also for the sake of creating stability by forcing the younger generations into domestication.
>>510345>Roe was overturned coming out of covid because the ruling class needs to replace all the workers who were killed or made permanently disabled by covidNo it wasnt anon, anti-abortion a core of US conservative agenda for years.
>>510347What do you mean by “core”?
>>510347I still have no idea why lolberts support them. Like, are they blind? Do they need glasses?
>>508988Operation Rescue was basically the GOP’s Brownshirts.
PicRel is from the book Deep Care by comrade Angela Hume
>>508859Ancoms astroturfed, posties keep winning MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!
AS ANCOMS SINK IN IDPOL CRINGE, STIRNERITES RISE FROM THE ASHES!
>>510354TBQH Kropotkin was a giant moralist, so I’m not surprised a lot of ancomms would take up the views of fundamentalist Catholics and vice-versa.
what if you think fetuses are people but also that killing people when you want is ok
>>510486I mean, we all acknowledge landlords are people…
>>510497>>510530Imagine becoming a rat because your wife wouldn’t abort.;
>>509992
Im down to bringing exile back as the most severe punishment because everything we have now is icky to me. If you are a murderer go live with the murderers, pedophile? Go live with the pedos. Sadly, overpopulation has made that impossible now.
>>510692French anarcho-syndicalists were unironically correct about reducing the human population.
>>510692>exile pedophiles to live with other pedophilesi cannot possibly imagine how letting an entire society of rapists fester unchallenged could go wrong, truly this is the greatest punitive system ever concieved
>>510711how, exactly, would you go about reducing the human population, dear anarchist?
>>510516Realistically speaking, how the fuck would an anarchist society stop abortion? Especially since most abortions are done with pills that can easily be obtained through the internet and sneaked into certain communities without anyone knowing?
>>510844If you know anything about anarchist history you'd know anarchists were some of the first proponents of birth control and pretty much started the birth control movement in the early 20th century. The vast majority of Neo-Malthusians during that time were anarchists.
>>510866How would an anarchist society enforce veganism?
>>510841Exile to what I would call "pedophile colonies" well away from any inhabited area is actually the most humane solution to the pedophile problem. Nobody wants them in their communities obviously and they are too dangerous to just be let free. The alternatives are either life imprisonment or death but I would like to think we aren't a bunch of feudal barbarians.
>>510891You'll have to ask an actual vegan anarchist.
>>508861Am I the only one who thinks this guy resembles the widely acclaimed speaker, writer, journalist, and political analyst Caleb Maupin?
>>510866>>510891Hegel's Philosophy of Right de facto debunks anarchism.
>>510891Just send a vigilante mob to kill anyone who harms animals, simple
>>510891They’d put meat eaters in slave labour camps like the ones the Spanish anarchists had.
>>510351PAAU claims rescue started off as a leftist thing. Like it was originally anti-war Catholics who were blocking abortion clinics the same way they protested the Vietnam War/
>>510891No meat or dairy allowed in the commune, probably.
>>511528can you stop shilling for these retards
>>510310>the abortion industryAbortion is completely free in France kek.
>>511528>muh MalthusianismThey know the IWW used to openly promote Malthusian thinking to the working-class, right?
>>51155580% of French people are pro-choice (which I'm guessing includes Black and Brown diaspora populations).
>>511528>abortion critical feminismHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>508684Fetus BBQ sounds delicious.
>>510310France has one of the nicest welfare states in the world. No one is being "exploited" by abortion.
>>511528Abortion is still illegal in most of the Third World so I don't know why they think this has anything to do with "reducing the population of colonized peoples".
>>510639>>510497it also makes no sense. I mean people in communist countries obviously had children.
>>511886Thats ironic.
Imo, places with no legal abortion often have more rampant child abuse/neglect.
>>512131This too. Look at most of LatAm for instance.
>>512254Since when is flashing your tits “self care”?
>>512254My gosh she is ugly.
>>512686Okay we NEED to get Maupin to interview Bukovinac.
>>512686>>512881Let’s be real. There are plenty of comrades who would jump at the chance to speak to MTG about stopping American imperialism against Russia.
Remember Anons: the idea that babies deserve inaliable human rights and autonomy the moment they are concieved is a liberal spook. Babies are property of the carrier of the fetus until the fetus is either born or taken out to be raised by a test tube.
>>512924This.
There isn’t a single Marxist argument against abortion aside from muh population growth.
>>512689She would be a perfect dom.
>>512924I think its best if.we limit it to the first three months.
Imo, Im more an advocate for preventive hysterectomy.
Babies do deserve human rights before birth after the third month.
>>512943Why the first three months?
>>510497I fucking hate snitches.
>>513314That is indeed a take.
>>513314new horseshoe dropped!
>>513314Because abortion bans worked out so well when they were implemented in socialist countries…
>>513314>YCLKek, just wait until PAAU learns Bill Foster held deeply Malthusian views.
>>513344Romanian orphanages.
>>514618They're probably posting this because they WANT counter-protesters so they can claim victimhood and/or get into a scuffle.
TBH, I think PAAU is on its last legs.
What I'm basing that on is seeing them at SCOTUS the other day during the abortion pill protest. I was out protesting with the pro-abortion people obviously and I saw a few notable PAAU members there (namely, Bukovinac, Carolina, Antipersonhood/Elise, Melanie, and this new guy who's a pasty white Jewish convert). I assumed they were going to come up to me and the people on my side and heckle us but they didn't. I assumed Bukovinac was going to get into people's faces but she didn't. She's already spending so much time and money on her bullshit presidential grift it's insane. Well, as soon as the protest was over Bukovinac went right to the airport and got out of DC, possibly back to Michigan. I haven't heard anything from other PAAU members since then. I'm going to assume their org has pretty much fallen apart at this point.
>>515317I feel so bad for laughing every time that image gets posted on here.
>>518108He has a very punchable face.
>>512964Snitches get stitches (unlike female breeder slaves who are forced to bleed to death on the operating table to appease patriarchal bugmen)
>>518726This is psychotic.
>>518108What an absolute tool.
>>520370I should post it to plebbit so the hipsters can rip it to shreds.
>>520514At this point I believe they're just stupid.
>>520540The fact Whittaker Chambers and Louis Budenz both died from natural causes is proof CPUSA were pussies.
>>522044Abortions aren’t even profitable to the medical establishment and childbirth is way, way more lucrative.
>>522057>and childbirth is way, way more lucrative.If you want an example of this, look at how the number of C-sections has exploded in the past 30 years. C-sections used to be incredibly rare. Now they're every other birth in America. The reason is profit for the hospitals.
The pro-life movement is almost dead and it destroyed itself.
When I look at the contemporary pro-life movement in the US, I see a movement that couldn't bend so it broke. It's not the 90s anymore when nearly half the country was pro-life. American attitudes towards abortion have changed a lot in the past 20-30 years with abortion becoming more socially acceptable than ever. How does the pro-life movement respond to this? They don't, they merely keep pushing for bans despite bans becoming more and more unpopular with the public. There doesn't seem to be much attempt at regaining support or winning over public trust.
The anti-abortion movement was started by Catholic Democrats who were fairly economically progressive, yet they willingly abandoned that progressivism to side with the GOP when the GOP embraced the pro-life movement in the late 1970s. Since then, they've been joined at the hip with the GOP even as the party keeps sabotaging itself. On the other side, there were many American conservatives who were largely hyper-fixated on this one issue. So many conservative judges, lobbyists, and talking heads I remember from the 2000s were specifically trained only on the subject of why Roe was an illegitimate court decision. Now that Roe has been overturned after 50 years, these same people have no idea what to do or how to rule on other cases, nor do they have solutions to any other major political issue. (As an analogy, imagine you and your friends spent weeks planning for a party, and by the time you show up the party ends a short time later; you're all dressed up for a grand event that abruptly stopped.) Again, the movement couldn't adapt.
And on the same token, I'm noticing how the movement seems to be splitting when it comes to related policy solutions. There are some in the pro-life movement who are advocating some kind of social safety net for parents, like paying people to have babies. Others will keep pushing the free market neoliberal narrative and say paying people to have babies incentivizes people to have babies they can't afford. There's debate over whether or not the pro-life movement should keep supporting Trump given Trump's lukewarm attitude on the issue. There's debates over supporting gestational limits as a short-term "compromise". There's debates over feminism vs. traditional patriarchy. There's even pro-lifers debating whether or not socialism is more pro-baby than capitalism and whatnot. The thing is, these aren't minor political differences when put into practice. "We can't make maternity care free because that will lead to undocumented immigrants abusing the system" will ultimately be something pro-lifers fight each other over, for example.
To sum up my impression, the pro-life movement seems largely stuck in the past and can't account for its own shortcomings. American Zillennials and Gen Z (basically anyone born after 1993) weren't exposed to the same amount of pro-life talking points in mainstream media and culture of the Bush II era. The vast majority of Americans under 30 are pro-choice for a reason, and refusal to understand this reason is why the pro-life movement isn't doing so hot right now.
>>523805photos taken seconds before disaster
>>528376I mean TBH it's not like pro-life ever had a chance no matter what they did with religious morality dying out. I guess you could argue they contributed to tarring the name of xtianity though
>>528379The younger generations in America are the least religious. Last time I checked something like 40% of zoomers were atheist or agnostic.
Gonna be honest this entire thread is full of stupid, edgy contrarianism wanking about a burger anti-abortion movement. Posts like
>>508688 and videos like
>>508835 are proof that abortions are necessary, because these people would be the sort of parents that abuse their kids, not physically, but mentally, making them feel worthless, all because deep inside, THEY feel worthless and project that toxicity onto whatever, and whoever is closest, in this case their potential children.
I only posted ITT because someone decided to necrobump it from the bottom of catalog.
Abortion isn't a "good thing" or something to "celebrate" or "joke about", and I guarantee that 90% of people ITT thread have never had to suffer the loss and psychological trauma of a miscarriage or abortion, or be close to someone who has. It's sometimes a necessity, but it should NEVER be trivialized as Western liberalism does. This retarded politicization of "Prolife" and "Proabortion" is disgusting to anyone that isn't a First-Worldist. Russia has abortions as part of its laws inherited from the USSR. There are no real debates on this because it's a medical right, with appropriate social attitudes; it's a private affair that isn't to be taken lightly.
>>528376I’d add that the anti-abortion movement is entirely bourgeois. Lila Rose and Kristan Hawkins are both millionaires. Pro-lifers don’t even make an attempt to organize within the working-class and are far more interested in lobbying Washington and getting big donations from porkies. Even PAAU and Rehumanize are made up of rich kids from rich white suburbs like NoVA.
>>528391My two abortions caused me zero trauma.
>>528391This is why parenthood should not be a sovereign right. it should be a privikiege.
Society promotes parental infallibility and the objectification of children as pets.
People treat familyhood as their personal dynasty.
Kids are not aloowed to have any social ties to the outisde world.
Teachers,doctors, recreational officers (NOT CORRECTIONAL) and other third party adults are made out to be sinister agents trying to sabotage parents.
>>528552>Pendulum swinging in the other extreme direction Блять я нинавижу шизу Западников, Боже прошу, верните меня в CCCP!
>>528563>Al-Jazeera<Sources linked to include Meduza, a literal CIA glowop similar to Radio Free Europe3/10 glow-bait
>>528566What’s wrong with al-Jazeera?
>>528570>What’s wrong with al-Jazeera? Besides it being a yellow-news rag that has promoted literal fake news and rumors as truth numerous times? How about the fact that it was the tool used to spread "Arab Spring" (a CIA color revolution) in the media and popularize it among people to encourage the US-backed coup? Or any other number of propaganda pieces it did for the US State Department.
Also
<proceeds to ignore the source of the article claims is another literal glow-op group Try harder, glowie.
>>528566Any time someone says shit like this they should be required to provide examples of what they consider trusty reliable source on the topic.
>>528575Deflection. Al Jazeera is directly linked with Arab Spring, a CIA Coup operation and was praised for it by Hillary Clinton. Furthermore that particular article cites, as a source, a supposed interview conducted by Meduza, ANOTHER CIA operated media source that is dedicated to promoting Russophobic hysteria and bad-faith narratives.
Any time someone tries to post shit links like this and then deflect, they ought to be banned, for unironically posting glowie narratives.
>>528573>arab spring was CIAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>528595>>528587 Just as an aside, Al Jazeera English is the exemplification of US uncontrolled assets. Like Al Qaeda and ISIS it serves a specific purpose in the Middle East and a controlled "opposition" that can throw wild-cards but is otherwise exactly what the state department wants.
This is far from the only time this has been done by glowies, and your implied denial of this means you're either a glowie or their useful idiot and a liberal.
For example: The CIA overthrew Mohammad Mossadegh in Iran by using Kermit Roosevelt. He paid a bunch of random people and bad-faith actors to pretend to be Communists (who were very popular in Iran in the 1950s) and then those fake Communists went through real Communist neighborhoods chanting Communist slogans, got them out of their houses marching with them, and then the fake Communists led the real Communists to go overthrow Mossadegh on the Shah's behalf. Basically if you get some well paid glowie minions chanting the right slogans, they can march a bunch of sincere people into doing stupid shit.
>>528578No its not deflection, I am asking you what source is reliable, if I wanted to read up on topic of abortion in Russia, because if you dont have any, the "3/10 glow-bait" would still be the most reliable source of information, and as such for all practical purposes considered trustworthy until better alternative is presented.
>>528599>I am asking you what source is reliable<Spoonfeed me!How about Russian law or statistical data instead of a rag with no sources.
https://rosstat.gov.ru/storage/mediabank/zdravo-2011.pdf>2011 review of Russian Reproductive Health https://wciom.ru/analytical-reviews/analiticheskii-obzor/preryvanie-beremennosti-za-protiv-i-kakova-rol-gosudarstva >Statistical analysis of Russian attitudes towards abortion and the Government's role in it as of 2022 Don't be a retard and actually do research, the internet is at your fingertips.
>the "3/10 glow-bait" would still be the most reliable source of information, and as such for all practical purposes considered trustworthy So instead of not knowing something you'll trust in a LIE? It's better to be uninformed, than misinformed, since the latter taints your view and understanding of things.
Also consciously believing in a literal glowie rag despite knowing it's probably bunk is genuinely worse than the religious zealots this threads 'dunks' on since at least they genuinely believe what they say and do is the truth, and don't just accept it because "oh it's the only thing I know lol"
>>528717And this paper from 2011 and an opinion poll debunks article about Russian governments recent anti-abortion policies how exactly?
>>528892 >Not actually addressing the papers>just a poll!LOL Not an argument, embarrassing that a Tor post is better than your cope.
Another gem from these sickos.
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Not a pro-lifer or some shit like that but seeing this cheering for abortions and wanking off online drama-stirring is just pathetic. Like if you're this invested in abortions, how about you just retroactively abort yourself.
>>533529>>533529I wish I was aborted.
>>533534>I wish I never experienced lifeI wanna say get help, but honestly the only way you'd value your life is to suddenly be plunged into the worst shit possible, so you can realize that until then your problems weren't all that bad after all.
>>533656Even if you're anti-abortion you have to know that stealing (dead) fetuses is just deranged and pointless.
>>535944There's a PAAU house??
>>535944so thats where the donation money went to
>>536609And to think they were begging for grocery money six months ago.
>>536603Yeah they're located near Catholic U, go figure.
>>541329>2.7x chancewow so 'modest'
>>541991>left-wing feministsThat's a funny way of saying "Catholics".
>>544002what's terriesa going to do when the feds cut off her funding?
>>544005Terrisa isn't working for PAAU anymore. She handed the org over to Caroline and there's rumours she's going to enter politics for real sometime soon.
Also, if you look at PAAU's IG page their last two posts have been e-begging. They're almost certainly running out of money and I won't be surprised if the org dissolves in a few months.
>>544090thanks for the update
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