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>>2856089

>A bit of a reach tbh, it just describes disparity in general income levels of different parts of the world. Maybe you can say it's implying there's some conspiracy to facilitate this? That would be very bad faith interpretation of that term imo

"golden billion" is a conspiracy theory that exists amongst american nazis and ukraine and russian nationalists already. thats why i said be careful. i'm not accusing you of going off on a georgia guidestone tangent but be careful

>You can call it PMC if you want or beneficiary proletariat or something, but it does have its roots in what Lenin described as LA imo. I don't know also if I would say they aren't exploited at all and would never revolt. Again just that there relative position in the global system of capitalism might preclude them in several ways from finding interest in revolutionary class politics.

this is the exact contrast between what is called "TW-ism" and anti-imperialism in general. if you think the LA exist as an active group that are incentivized to suppress socialist and revolutionary politics amongst other parts of the working class then you're just a regular leninist. if you think there is no proletariat in the west or you think no western worker can be called materially "exploited" then you are a TW-ist or MIM theorist.

>But regardless, it is a factor to consider rather than disregarded out of fear that it might be true. Lets say for example that 20% of the western proletariat is labor aristocrat or PMC or bought-out or whatever to a global average of 5%. It's only a small difference and neither is a majority, but it could drastically affect strategy and approach

for my own thinking i wonder if "bought out" or "bribed" is outdated. since what the contemporary LA has is maybe not significantly more wealth but a very pampered and fluffed up position in left politics and intellectual culture around it. for example - the DSA isn't just made up of gentrifiers and downwardly mobile P-B. there are lots of poors involved. however the cultural halo around them confers all kinds of cultural and hegemonic status that cant be cashed out in rent or healthcare. you get the whole world bent around your interests, your tastes are listened to, your trivial pPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2855995
I am not arguing that western imperialism, is some immaterial force exerting itself from above reality. To me it is simply the highest stage of capitalism as an economic system, that we have seen so far. The particular composition of that system come out of historical reality, ie there are various concrete reasons for these particular political and social blocks of people to develop into the positions they have
I think that a persons position comes out of their process in the world, as in the things they do, the way they sustain their live, it is in essence just a reflection or an extension of that process. It is not a static thing that you can beep boop some numbers and get a static predisposed outcome, if that is what your think I believe

>"golden billion" runs close to conspiracy theory imo. im not saying its that but be careful.
A bit of a reach tbh, it just describes disparity in general income levels of different parts of the world. Maybe you can say it's implying there's some conspiracy to facilitate this? That would be very bad faith interpretation of that term imo

>what do you mean by "growth" here?
That in Lenin's time the labor aristocracy was a handful of leaders in the labor movement that were able to enrich themselves due to their entrenched position in said movement. But in the century since then ,the position of labor in these countries has changed drastically and in my opinion this has changed the shape or form of this labor aristocracy to expand and incorporate a broad range of people into this higher fraction, managerial, social democrat types that work to placate the masses and manage both the workers and their movement on the behalf of the ruling class. Now these are not exclusive to the first world by any means, but I think it's a larger fraction because those people are useful to the bourgeoisie and they have the money to afford to support them. I don't think that Lenin's category, nor anything really, should be essentialized, but Im having a hard time seeing how it would be translated into racial terms. You mean like whitey is the labor aristocracy or something?

>nowhere in early anti-imperialist do i get the impression that it is COMFORT and CONSUMPTION that makes the labor aristocracy THEMSELVES notPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2854056
>no different than gangs and gangsterism
bro your entire thing is anarchy, your motto is "be gay do crimes", are you stupid? That's like Jeffrey Epstein saying "I hate pedophiles"
>anarchist resistance is able to take say, the PNW,
The PNW has traditionally been controlled by you anti-state libertarian guys:
https://www.kuow.org/stories/why-there-are-so-many-white-supremacists-in-the-northwest
>if you seriously think they'd just let them have their little autonomous region, you're ignoring history
>f you're native or a person of color, you'll be put down too if you're not with whatever the settlers want
if you look at the statistics, the CHAZ killed more (black) children in its short existence than their also Jewish reddit PMC counterparts in Israel have killed their apartheid racial caste.
The same shockingly high statistics of murders is true of the the Spanish anarchist program

>>2854127
>Anarchists want to operate on vibes, MLs want to operate on vibes but with jargon
I learn new science everyday, but not from the western left who are all influencers and movie critics who soyface over Zionist film slop
https://scholar.google.com/

>>2852956
exactly.
if the term has relevance today it is noticing who is joining and running unions and governing "labor politics" in the present world and the positions they hold within public service, academia and media.

TW-ism holds explicitly that the western working class are not proletarian and not exploited. these are both anti-marxist positions that reduce exploitation and proletariat to just emotive words without a technical meaning. Lenin is explicit that the labor aristocracy are proletarian and not bourgeois. only bourgeois inside the proletariat. they are still in an uncertain and risky position. therefore bribing them with privileges (and not just consumption or treats) is effective because it gives them something that they lack. to the extent that that will now fight to define it. TW-ism just plays word games around this and selects things based on how emotive they are

the one trap is going from a principled critique of TW-ism to saying labor aristocracy is just another name for PMC. it isnt and cant be. >>2852992

this same argument can be made about any class who went to revolution. why would they since they have X perk or lack X drawback compared to another group? every group of people can be made too look privileged compared to another group if you want to make bad faith comparisons. the grass is always greener or less greener. this is just word games.

bringing up 401k or freedom from prison or war is just "but capitalism made your iPhone" from a different direction of social conservativism/individualism. please consider the historical links between European Maoism and the emergence of "Horseshoe Theory" bullshit and think about how online TW-ism and ReadSettlers garbage is just the same thing cleaned up for a smugger, less well read generation

>>2852538
This new magazine 'Geese' wrote an interminably pretentious article about why we should support AOC 2028, which makes me view them as PMC liberals like anyone at The Atlantic 👎
https://www.geesemag.com/articles/enter-daedalus-2028
<the word 'liberal' does not appear here, but they mention 'communism' three times and 'socialism' 34 times
Ideology is that which cannot be named, like fish swimming in water. You know you're ideological when you cannot ever critique something, as if it is the unquestionable axiomatic laws of the universe
>If I thought that AOC was an opportunist, that hope in her campaign was overly optimistic, that her presidency would give rise to the rapid growth of potential opportunities to expose elements of Zionism, reformism, capitulationism, you name it–that would not detract from my cause, but exceedingly bolster it. For the first time, the left’s prophecies would be proven correct, and the opportunity would open up for an actually meaningful intervention from this perspective, to reclaim socialism from her opportunism through the gauntlet of the mass political experience. Until the ideology of AOC has run through such a gauntlet of governance and hegemony, there should be no reason for us to expect her progressive working-class base to become disillusioned and seek a radical alternative
bro their argument is literally just "we need to wake up the sheeple" 😭
>"In response to the vacillating nature of AOC on issues like Palestine, infantile calls to instead pedantically endorse Rashida Tlaib because she is, allegedly, “more principled” are now arising. The truth is, however, that ‘principality’ versus ‘vacillation’ is not what is on the line for us—this is a schema that is irrelevant for the purposes laid out here and would only serve to push Democratic Socialism back into marginality at this decisive opportunity for intervention"
(severely circumsized jerking off motion)

>>2852667
>insurrection
the so called "United States" has been controlled by CIA/Israeli MPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2851245
>>2851244

The only thing i can probably is the collective class interest of a PMC class, and petit bourgeoise slowly fading away as the bourgeoise moves on.. something like old politics and new politics… alot of people benefited with ESG and idpol althrough idpol did not promoted true liberation, and miss the golden ages of biden and obama, for their lost social position…. there are gay collaborators, trans collaborators, arab collaborators, black collaborators, lesbian collaborators…. and those still exists

>>2851241
>why wont liberals ever shut up and die….
Because at lowest, and assuming they're not bots which amplify everything on reddit, it's a platform made for botting, it's because at lowest they're comfortable PMC's or buisness owners who neoliberalism has worked well for. These people do not have a real understanding of politics and are merely voting with their class position.

>>2850956
what if you live in a large city, and your commute to work is a half hour's walk and a half hour standing on a train, then your commute back is the same thing carrying groceries, and whatever you do after if you have a healthy life requires walking too, if it isn't an activity with exercise as a component itself.

"exercise" was never really a concept in a lot of human history and not in many cultures, at least as a distinct activity. people just maintained fitness by living and surviving.

it is ironic that the urban dwelling latte sipping PMC is more congruent with a human in a state of nature than a chud in the decaying burbs.

that is if you are okay with cctv every inch that clocks your personal mug and never gets deleted

>>2850710
Do you really think the over educated PMC college grads that make up DSA membership are going to stick by you?

>>2849964
They arent even marxist either lmao. They are also against nationalizing land. They want to break up latifundia to produce a large class small family farms.
They'd go further politically if they went for the nationalization angle. It would also benefit the urban proles.
Another huge problem in LATAM is social movements are led by middle class intelligentsia/PMC or last remenants of peasantry in the hinterland.

>>2849520
Pretty much what >>2849522 said. Though I’d add that the white population of the United States also got first dibs on the jobs that reinforce capitalism (small business owners, PMC types) or otherwise have “buy in” to the system. The downwardly mobile, working class whites either embrace the politics of nihilistic reaction or become more open to socialist ideas.

>>2846867
Marx complained about the middle class.

<What [Ricardo] forgets to emphasise is the constantly growing number of the middle classes, those who stand between the workman on the one hand and the capitalist and landlord on the other. The middle classes maintain themselves to an ever increasing extent directly out of revenue, they are a burden weighing heavily on the working base and increase the social security and power of the upper ten thousand.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1863/theories-surplus-value/ch18.htm

<The great mass of so-called “higher grade” workers—such as state officials, military people, artists, doctors, priests, judges, lawyers, etc.—some of whom are not only not productive but in essence destructive, but who know how to appropriate to themselves a very great part of the “material” wealth partly through the sale of their “immaterial” commodities and partly by forcibly imposing the latter on other people—found it not at all pleasant to be relegated economically to the same class as clowns and menial servants and to appear merely as people partaking in the consumption, parasites on the actual producers (or rather agents of production). This was a peculiar profanation precisely of those functions which had hitherto been surrounded with a halo and had enjoyed superstitious veneration. Political economy in its classical period, like the bourgeoisie itself in its parvenu period, adopted a severely critical attitude to the machinery of the State, etc. At a later stage it realised and—as was shown too in practice—learnt from experience that the necessity for the inherited social combination of all these classes, which in part were totally unproductive, arose from its own organisation.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1863/theories-surplus-value/ch04.htm

If you read Capital Vol 2 Marx anticipated the PMC, a supposed hole in his theory. By chapter 5, he talks about a section of the workers and petty-bourgeois who are recruited as bookkeepers and maPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2846321
I claimed to not believe in PMC theory - please learn to read.
>>2846322
Keep replying even though you "can't be bothered" to reply to me. 👍

>>2846297
PMC don't exist, so the analysis falls

>>2846276
>within capitalist society
Why would it have to be limited to capitalist society?
Such pseudo-historians as James Lindsay or TIKHistory attempt to trace the history of "woke" back to antiquity. We see examples of "vurtue signalling" in the gospels and artistic censorship in Plato, for example - but I feel that Richard Hanania is most incisive on this point; that "woke" is lawfare based upon the original architecture of the US Civil Rights Act, which overtime has expanded itself. The contradiction regards the status of the freedom of association, and so is a liberal (e.g. individualist) issue, not a class issue, as in the Marxist case. Alternative theorists such as James Burnham could point at the rise of the PMC for class analysis (e.g. woke as a tactic to promote oneself in a corporate hierarchy), but this I find more spurious.

>>2838931
>Prior to 2016 conspiracy culture was left-coded
yeah, the left wing of satanic capital!!!
Every crusty new age hippie socialists like Jane Fonda believe that 'we need human depopulation, Africans are having too many babies', exactly like their Epstein class friends who study human breeding in the Bill Gates Foundation.

Alex Jones had a cameo in the Philip K Dick movie adaptation A Scanner Darkly because that radlib "alternative" culture was always just degenerated reactionary liberalism from demons who would later reveal their true nature: Baal worshipers who literally slander children for being killed in schools by their gun worshiping fascist death cult.
>The cracks began with the Tea Party,
the petite bourgeois Karen astroturf movement created as a Koch Bros psyop is the most elitist and anti-populist. They literally called the cops on you for not fitting into their soulless Stepford Wives neighborhood aesthetic!

>>2839509
>ZOG was actually not a conspiracy or even an edgy term, it was always pretty straightforward.
<"This term came from neo-Nazi projects in the 1970s and 1980s as a way of explaining why the federal government was a lost institution: it had been captured by an alien influence. We have to consider how white nationalism reconstituted itself after the Civil Rights Movement made gains in undoing legally sanctioned segregation and Jim Crow laws and made public and legislative expressions of open racism less acceptable. Now, racists could not just run for office or push communities towards racialist conclusions; they had to engage in a revolutionary struggle because the government was no longer run by and for the white man" https://organizingmythoughts.org/we-dont-talk-like-nazis/
Neoliberal capitalism is undeniably a nazi movement for its counter-revoluion that seeks to reverse civil rights legal protections for workers.
But its very funny that these "anti-fascists" like this guy ultimately have the same political theories as nazis, insisting we must "SMAPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2835154
>campists are tribalists
"what are we, a bunch of indigenous people?" ok settler
> evidently not ideologically informed
ideology is when you have fun debates with your fellow Jeffrey Epstein class of PMC liberals who write for The Atlantic. Its non-ideological if you believe everyone at those pedo parties is satanic!
>They refuse to be nuanced
<"Russia is bad" (refusal to be nuanced)
NATO is literally just a whitewashed version of NAZI, your nuance is literally holocaust denial. 30 million people were exterminated by neoliberalism in their 'Cold War', but the important thing is that you pathologize the dysfunction of your finance imperialist slaves by pretending they're just randomly lashing out for no historical reason. There's no reason for Palestine to be so dysfunctional, campists are irrational for supporting our genocide survivors!

>>2835934
>Ukraine is no longer a US proxy
Hunter Biden was being as a high paid corporate leader in a Ukrainian resource extraction company because they love his tweets, ignore the BlackRock Epstein class

>>2836890
>what do these debates have achieved? Absolutely nothing.
Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2837919
That’s a very good question. Found this:

>There is growing concern that uncharacterized, minimally manipulated cellular preparations from different sources are being misrepresented as stem cells.40 The term ‘stem cell’ specifically refers to rare cell populations in native tissue that are usually resting, not dividing. They are induced to divide infrequently, but when they divide they do so in a manner that is ‘asymmetrical’. This division results in ‘self-renewal’, with one cell returning to the resting state, and the other daughter cells expanding to generate cells, whose progeny can contribute to new tissue formation. Native tissue contains vastly more progenitor cells than stem cells and vastly more mature cells than progenitors. Under normal conditions, connective tissue progenitors (CTPs) are not detectable in human blood. In human bone marrow, a mean of one in 20,000 cells may be CTPs, with far fewer true upstream stem cells.41,42 The bottom line is that while it is possible to refer to blood and bone marrow-derived therapies as ‘cellular’, if any true stem cells are transplanted they are one of the least common type of cell in the mixture. The use of the term ‘stem cell therapy’ is therefore an inappropriate and intentionally misleading misuse of the term that should be purged from advertising materials.

>The term ‘mesenchymal stem cells’ is also misused in marketing and research literature, contributing to confusion. MSCs, now mesenchymal stromal cells, are defined by the International Society for Cellular Therapy (ISCT) as culture-expanded plastic adherent cells that have trilineage potential and express defined surface markers (Table I).45 Freshly isolated cells from tissue do not contain cells that meet these criteria. However, advertisements frequently lump together all the cells in native tissues that might contribute to either repair or immunomodulation under the banner of MSCs. This conflation between information known about the attributes and performance of culture-expanded MSCs and the highly heterogeneous and rare population of connective tissue stem and progenitors (CTPs) that are available in native tissues has resulted in considerable confusion among scientists, patients, clinicians and regulators.46 Commercial bodies have seized on confusion in nomenclaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

I see "leftist" PMCs talking about "saving Afghan women" so theres a likelyCIA mission flaring back up.

>>2834821
>college
BOURGEOIS PMC COP CLASS TRAITOR DETECTED

>>2833464
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC6515308/

I guess you'll just accuse the scientists behind the study of being nazis.

>>2832751
>Yes treating a group of people as second class citizens and refusing to protect them.
When did I ever say this ? Just because some rape shelters would be based on sex doesn't mean all would be, just like there should be some for men as well. But you have to protect both cisgender women and trans women.
As for Epstein, he raped cisgender women ? He litterally has nothing to do with what I'm talking about, and it just sounds like you're calling me a pedophile for diagreeing with you.
>Yes you're totally right we here at leftypol hate science and love basing our worldview on religious fabrications of how biology works, you definitely cannot change your sex in any way and the caste you're assigned into at birth should dictate your entire life, just like the revolutionaries wanted!
Biological sex exists and while you can change secondary sex characteristics
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7846503/
Studies show that despite medical treatement, there still exists a physical difference between trans and cis women. This is mostly important for sports.
There are also concrete material reasons for why socities divide people into men and women (one sex gives birth, the other gives the sperm) even if that model is simplistic. Those reasons are still relevent to this day.
As a general rule, don't try to claim "science" has some sort of objective truth about the world, science has perfecly been wrong in the past, and I doubt that every doctor agrees with you, consider you also pin them as murderers.

>I'm so glad the U.K. is refusing to give transhumanists breast cancer screenings, since they're not REALLY women and the increased risk of breast cancer is all in their heads! Calling it state-sponsored murder is reductive btw

Completly unrelated to anything I said, I don't think doctors should discriminate against trans people. But yes calling it state murder is reductive, plenty of people have died due to shitty medecine, but that doesn't make it murder.

You're smugly and angrily calling me a pedophile and trying to pin for the death of trans women to cancer. Simply because a fairly mild disagreement with yoPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>The rate of profit is getting raped in the first world. Organized labor can rape it further and seriously hurt capitalism.
Not necessarily a "revolutionary" by itself. It's just what moves keeps capital moving. An increase in the rate of exploitation would encourage more activity.

>Stop all the LARPing and electorialism and adventurism and billions of hours spent online arguing.
I agree

>Propagandize. Join unions or create ones. Make it militant. Do strikes. Demand higher wages and better working conditions.
You just contradicted yourself. You oppose electoralism because it's this stupid fucking dumb-dumb idea that you can enter the bourgeois house and tell them to do communism. Well, trade unions are a fully absorbed and expected part of capitalism as a form of wage negotiation performed by the labor aristocrat leadership. In WWII, the trade unions actively made sure their members didn't go on strike. They are controlled opposition which leaves the (failed, objectively) idea of Leninists that you can transform them from within, even though the Bolsheviks NEVER relied on trade unions to take power (instead opting for a political coup, promise of land reform to peasants, sailor mutinies and armed suppression of opposition) and the attempted application of that theory in the developed world at the time (Germany) failed SPECTACULARLY. It's HOI4 larping.

I know you said labor unions but the only one is the IWW and it's dead with its only activity being pointless activism sign waving

>Oppose immigration (foreign scabs)
You can't "oppose immigration" because it's a fact of life. There might be some electoral (once again a contradiction) activity to prevent the H1B scabs but it's unlikely because once again you're entering the doghouse that will make you play by their rules. Marx actually wrote about the topic regarding Irish immigrants and he gave a really simplistic answer of "they should organize with the native working class" but this hasn't ever actually worked out that way. I think the early CPUSA was heavily immigrant (iirc from what I read) but it eventually withered away.

Regardless, why is the "goal" for you to make sure everyone in the surplus population has a job? What type of Fordist bullshit is this? The only people in America thinking about socialism are people in precPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2829333
So trans rights are a distraction, but the deserted shithole is the number two problem after the economy?
Also, you can't rely on economics alone anymore; the workers' situation is too good now, and a revolution on this basis is impossible (at least in first-world countries; the third world still suffers from unbearable economic conditions, which can be turned into a revolution with a couple of PMCs and a million dollars).

>>2826277
Based lad.

If David gets laid off or his employer goes out of business, david has no more income.

A deli owner decides who gets the privilege of luxuries like food to survive, and maybe 4 walls and a roof to sit in between shifts. The deli owner could liquidate their property and make significantly more than they would in a year to invest or fuck off and do whatever, otherwise they wouldn't bother running the business in the first place and just get a similar job as david.

Additionally, he can take out loans, pay very little in taxes, and other benefits.

It indicates a lack of knowledge and life experience to think that the main benefit of owning a businesses is getting to write ones own paycheck, and a special kind of retardation to think that the hypothetical is anywhere near a gotcha.

Not unlike how patsoc fascists get when they talk about PMCs. Labor aristocracy is a thing but it will never change the fundamental class relations.

>>2814191
>>2814193
How many colonies in Africa does China have? How many millions of child slaves are toiling away to make treats for the Chinese pmc? How many countries has China invaded? How many genocides have they committed?

>>2792531
It is Dharmic (Dhammic but Theravada is for PMC and Porkies), but not Praxis, unless it's being used to fuel a Mahayana Marxist Revolutionary group.

the solution to pmc virtue hoarding is unironic left-nietzscheanism. pmcs virtue-horde because they have internalized slave morality ressentiment making them feel bad for being in a position of economic privilege. it is no accident that idpol is sourced from refined parisian intellectualism while engels himself was a german so felt no moral qualms with using his position as a capitalist to further the worker's movement. there needs to be a transvaluation of morals evinced in the pmc and labor aristocracy if we are not to completely ignore them (an understandable gesture). obviously i am not suggesting they should adopt a "master morality", that is just silly. rather, they need a refined morality based upon a noble magnanimity in helping the working class. rather than be more "virtuous" by being more woke then impose such things on workers, they should have their energies directed into real change based upon the finances afforded them thanks to their class position

>>2746538
>He’s even thrown his own wife under the bus for working with Palestinian liberation activist Susan Abdulhawa
<"Palestinians are neo-nazis, look at these screenshots of twitter posts"
Leftist "callout/cancel culture" has deputized them all as cops who are happy to help Zionist surveillance accomplish their psyops for free to smear the critics of Israel. Actually the DSA gets paid: they gain social capital for their branding as heroic 'anti-fascists' who bravely fight antisemitic tropes
Actual nazis are defined by their material behavior of denying food/water and healthcare. Idealists call Palestinians are nazis for their merely class conscious tweets about being 'goyim'. I imagine DSA radlibs in the 1960s also called The Black Panthers 'nazis' for daring to call themselves n*ggers, "how dare you use the word that your oppressors call you!!! This is an anti-white trope! You will never be invited to our settler anti-Stalinist forum where we have mild disagreements with our fellow PMC Jeffery Epstein libertarian guys about whether 'sex work is work' is woke or not"
>Fully divest NYC from the Zionist entity
As the Mayor, his main job is to secure funding for civic projects, but I imagine Zionist alligned finance capitalists have a lot of power with their choices in investing in the Zohran era municipal bond market. Whoever controls bond markets controls your city, try thinking dialectically about the material base of capitalism the next time some radlib talks about "electoralism is good/bad" or "this politician is good/bad"
<Mamdani's administration is facing significant challenges in the municipal bond market. This has resulted in decreased investor confidence and difficulties in selling city debt, which are critical for funding city projects and services.
<Mamdani's proposed fiscal policies, which include extensive spending plans, have raised concerns among investors about the city's financial health.
<There is a notable shift in investor sentiment, with many expressing distrust in the city's ability to manage its debt effectively under Mamdani's leadership.
<Recently, New York CiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2696821
The EU emerged from a post-WWI House of Habsburg project with the goal of establishing something like the USA in Europe and retain some power projection cababilities for themselves in areas they used to rule for a long time. For that reason they (and Soros) were main players behind the 1989 color revolution also. The French bourgeoisie wanted a single Euro currency for some reason (it was their prerequisite for approving the German "reunification") and the German bourgeoisie does indeed utilize the EU's "free movement of labour" to exploit Eastern European cheap labour. However, neither French nor German bourgeois and aristocrats need the EU for anything. Both FR and DE are the biggest net contributors in terms of budget while EU law actually puts big countries at a disadvantage within the EU's decision making body, while net receivers like Poland and small nations enjoy more voting power relative to size. Getting rid of the DM came with neglible benefits for German porky and higher cost of living for the working class plus a shitload of problems for the economy, including the problems of € economies who formerly preferred "weak" national currencies. Eastern Europeans and others migrate here since the 19th century when Europe was still multipolar and Euro porkies and aristocrats indulged in inter-imperialist war all the time.
Today France, Germany and Italy would objectively be better off without the fucking EU in any case, that's why we have widespread anti EU sentiment here on the far-left and far-right.
So, what is the EU now? It's mainly a vehicle for the interests and imperialist agenda of the House of Rothschild (British, French, Swiss, Israeli etc.) and similar haute bourgeois and aristocrat oligarch clans and capitalists of all sorts who can circumvent national law and fuck with worker's rights and implement a draconic fascist censorship regime via EU law if need be. It's also a way for corrupt neolib PMCs from all over Europe to make a career as EUrocrats in national governments by serving oligarchs and funnel gibs from the EU budget into private black holes. Or to become a strong NAFOid nation like Poland, amassing more tanks than DE and FR combined for defending freedom. Western EU bourgeoisie adores Eastern Europe, by the way. Because Eastern Europe, including EU members such as Poland as well as membership candidates, tenPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2398307
>>the left
>look inside it’s far right neoliberals
every American settler socialist movement over the last 15 years: "Google Bookchin, we must SMASH THE AUTHORITARIAN STATE for its racist regulations of consumer freedom for individuals"
People after googling Bookchin: "so wait, anarchists have 'no quarrel' with neoliberals who support selling children in the free market?"

lol PMC socialist literally dream of having woke versions of Jeffrey Epstein pagan temple islands, where sex workers are "liberated" from Stalinist oppression to cross borders to be servants of the class of redditors. Really makes you think about what Ukraine's "revolution of dignity" in 2014 was really about!