83 results in /leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect Anonymous 04-12-25 03:25:15 No. 2583188
>>2583184 The bourgeoisie teaches this vulgar sex market theory to PMC aristocrats. It was in my psychology 101 textbook
Anonymous 03-12-25 18:01:55 No. 2582566
>>2572569 >can i pls stay Social democracy fails because these radlib nerds who "read lots of Marx" are like children who think they can just rationally convince their parents to quit their jobs so they can live in Disneyland 24/7. Capitalists will simply try to accumulate more bourgeois property ownership to extract more rents, get real
>>2580131 >liberate the capitalists of your nation liberalism is historically progressive if you live in a feudal system with monarchy who hoard wealth instead of doing the Marx commodity cycle of re-investing to buy new industrial technology and so on. Social democracy for Lenin was revolutionary, but its a joke for the PMC art and culture critic Marxists in Jeffrey Epstein's home New York City
Anonymous 03-12-25 17:42:18 No. 2582541
>>2582180 >the split was a tragedy (not the actions of anti-proletarian classes who collaborate with finance imperialist bourgeoisie) Zero historical materialism and class consciousness, the CPUSA are radical liberals
>>2582321 >Objectively correct analysis, but it commits the sin of <"to paraphrase Marx" You soyfaced at this tweet because you are also an idealist radlib who completely rejects Marxist historical materialism and class consciousness. At no point in his smug gamerchair boomer scolding about "Marxism is a religious cult" (the Jeffrey Epstein PMC social democrats who write for The Atlantic agree!) has CPUSAnon ever mentioned class war.
>>2582321 >If one of your primary concerns is social democracy at the present moment you’re substituting actual analysis for dogmatic phrase mongering. Actually Existing Social Democrats who have all the counter-cultural hegemony right now:
<"Graham Platner is a committed anti-fascist" Socialists will never escape the accusations that they are agents of finance imperialism lol. There's a reason why the "Abundance" Zionist psyop from housing developers has so little resistance, the social democrat Zohran and the fascist Trump literally agree, they agree on more things than leftists would like to publicly admit
Anonymous 02-12-25 10:44:44 No. 2581121
>>2581120 W for trans men + free androgenic anabolic steroids
also are enver hoxha or jozip broz tito (no beard/stashe) pmc
Anonymous 02-12-25 10:40:41 No. 2581120
>>2581096 these are revolutionary aristocrats who studied in France in the case of Pot or under people who studied in France in the case of Sung - PMCs par excellence.
须 means both beard and necessary. Coincide?
>also, you should be forced to be masculinized like the Chinese forced Uihger islamists to eat pork and drink beer. Anonymous 02-12-25 09:46:30 No. 2581092
>>2581083 having a beard is masculine. The feminization of men by the PMC has to stop. Look at the working class anywhere in the world & they have beards. Even some of the women. Think about it.
Anonymous 01-12-25 11:14:38 No. 2579933
The PMC are still wage labourers and therefore working class. Many have their interests aligned with the ruling class of course. But this is no different to religious retards who will defend the King at all costs.
Anonymous 30-11-25 10:38:09 No. 2578860
>>2578820 Maintaining discipline is in many senses
easier when you've got access to the carrots and sticks that governing the second most populous country on earth gives you. You cannot reward good behavior in a British party by putting someone in charge of a prefecture of eighty million people. You cannot punish good behavior in a British party by sending the person responsible for some "hotel style treatment". Fundamentally you're taking a gang of weirdoes and putting them in an environment heavy on opportunities for ego trips and weak on opportunities for basically anything else.
There is a massive competency crisis across UK politics. I'm not saying there are no lessons to learn, but if you think the answer is to simply duplicate a structure designed for a party of one-hundred million members and applying it to a party that would be lucky to get 1000 members, you're off your rocker. That would be inappropriate even for what, the 8,000 who survived the Long March. A small scale organization can take only very general advice from a large one.
That's before we even get into the issue of whether there should be a party - I'm of the firm opinion that a party is doomed before basic competence is established via other means. Someone used to emphatically make the point that until the left can run a lemonade stand, nobody should start any parties because they're much, much easier to fuck up.
If you can't sell lemonade, it doesn't matter what line you take or what your party structure is: you have a roleplaying org at best and a cult at worse. If you want to make a CPC roleplay society, that's great, have fun, but just be honest about it. Then nobody can laugh at you for wearing the uniforms and instead of debating whether the spirit of the sewell convention has been maintained, you can put the gang of four on trial every weekend. (Organizing such LARPs would, ironically, be better training than setting up a "real" org.)
p.s. I will maintain to my dying day that Oikophobia is a meme that fails to engage with modern conditions. If I hate Keir Starmer it is because he is utterly foreign, not because he is similar.
p.p.s. The left and center-left already basically appeal to the working class. (it helps that being a counter culture casually wins over young people! purely aesthetic do-nothings are much better than party-founding do nothings!) to make it appear otherwise you have to massively massage the
Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 29-11-25 21:42:28 No. 2578069
>>2577896 reminder that he surmised that socialism will likely come about in advance western countries because they had the most advance productive forces and he was writing the communist manifesto with that in mind.
he even says
>These measures will, of course, be different in different countries. this means that the development of the socialist project in a post colonial agrarian countries will not be the same as socialist development in advance western countries. marx's view is not actually rigid as often claim, he mainly gives direction and a method call dialectical materialism. by the end of his life, he even allows for different starting points and uneven development, with his writings in his letters on russia.
when china established a dotp with the founding of the PRC in 1949, it was still agrarian and technologically backwards and far behind the west. its industrial output was tiny and like 1% of its population would even be considered proletariats in the marxist sense. so mao's central goal was to build a strong industrial base that is necessary for socialism in marxist theory as well as modernize society by improving living standards and urbanization.
by the late 1970s, the prc did achieve some basic industrialization and improved the quality of life for its people with a dramatic increase in life expectancy and literacy. however, china still remained overwhelmingly rural with subsistence farming being the norm. there was still limited connectivity between rural areas and industrial centers. most people were living in extreme poverty and they were far behind in living standards to the west as many did not have access to electricity, running water, or modern healthcare.
according to historical materialism, the capitalist phase is considered necessary before socialism. marx even admired capitalism, not morally, but as a historical force in its ability to revolutionize the productive faster than previous modes of production. he also says,
>The bourgeois mode of production is the last antagonistic form of the social process of production but the productive forces developing within bourgeois society create also the material conditions for a solution of this antagonism. so when the khmer rouge claimed it established communism, that would b
Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 29-11-25 18:59:00 No. 2577899
Regardless of the fact that under capitalism cops tend to be corrupt, violent, fascist pricks police abolition is complete liberal insanity.
Anonymous 28-11-25 09:46:50 No. 2576422
>>2576418 The other irony is that the elephant in the room IS trauma, but the issue is that many people self-diagnose with C-PTSD because they conflate any impression of subjective trauma whatsoever with C-PTSD, even though C-PTSD has discrete biophysical markers in terms of the effect it has on the permanent alteration of your brain structure. I have been formally diagnosed with C-PTSD and I can attest that the nature of it is crippling enough at times that there's a very stark contrast between the histrionic PMC zoomer types claiming to have it and those who really bear the burden of having it. The upsetting and disappointing thing is that when there's an oversaturation of people making this conflation, those who really suffer from the condition are overlooked or assumed to be just like all the rest, when that couldn't be further from the case. I don't believe that we should put the cart before the horse in individualizing the priority of generational trauma, but I do think that a proper communist politics will, in a downstream sense, naturally sublate away some of the sociopolitical barriers which hamstring the people who are authentically suffering. From each according to his ability, to each according to their need… and potentially, these attributes can change in the context of a less atomized/alienated society which is more focused on resources of empowerment.
Anonymous 28-11-25 00:06:32 No. 2576131
>>2573064 reminder that he surmised that socialism will likely come about in advance western countries because they had the most advance productive forces and he was writing the communist manifesto with that in mind.
he even says
>These measures will, of course, be different in different countries. this means that the development of the socialist project in a post colonial agrarian countries will not be the same as socialist development in advance western countries. marx's view is not actually rigid as often claim, he mainly gives direction and a method call dialectical materialism. by the end of his life, he even allows for different starting points and uneven development, with his writings in his letters on russia.
when china established a dotp with the founding of the PRC in 1949, it was still agrarian and technologically backwards and far behind the west. its industrial output was tiny and like 1% of its population would even be considered proletariats in the marxist sense. so mao's central goal was to build a strong industrial base that is necessary for socialism in marxist theory as well as modernize society by improving living standards and urbanization.
by the late 1970s, the prc did achieve some basic industrialization and improved the quality of life for its people with a dramatic increase in life expectancy and literacy. however, china still remained overwhelmingly rural with subsistence farming being the norm for most people. there was still limited connectivity between rural areas and industrial centers. most people were living in extreme poverty and they were far behind in living standards to the west as many did not have access to electricity, running water, or modern healthcare.
according to historical materialism, the capitalist phase is considered necessary before socialism. marx even admired capitalism, not morally, but as a historical force in its ability to revolutionize the productive faster than previous modes of production. he also says,
>The bourgeois mode of production is the last antagonistic form of the social process of production but the productive forces developing within bourgeois society create also the material conditions for a solution of this antagonism. so when the khmer rouge claimed it established communi
Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 27-11-25 22:59:26 No. 2576055
>>2576037 I'm convinced the only reason people choose to ignore it at this point in time is because there haven't been any wide-reaching societal consequences beyond a few school shootings. In the early 20th century when this same thing happened it lead to the rise of fascism, as a generation of young men felt screwed over by the world and wanted to get their revenge on everyone that had wronged them. Liberalism is very bad at dealing with problems before they become socially destructive. They just pretend it doesn't exist and then say "how could we have let this happen??" when angry disaffected unemployed young men with zero future prospects are committing acts of mass violence on a large scale.
There's also this mentality that for men to "receive" any kind of help would require "taking" something from women, so women are like, intrinsically opposed to acknowledging the crisis for fear of losing what they have. Not all women are like this, but the "girlboss" liberal democrat PMC type women that write all the articles, control all the academic journals, etc pretty openly oppose it, like
>>2576002 Anyway today I was trying to google around looking for information since that anon earlier asked me to prove my point, and literally every result is deliberately either scrubbed of any gendered language or redirects you to talk about mass shooters and domestic violence if you try to get very specific with the queries. Very few media outlets outside of the far-right nazi factories are willing to engage with the issue head-on, and I think this is deliberate. If only nazis are acknowledging incels then incels will be drawn towards nazi beliefs and start developing a persecution complex from being constantly gaslit about their experiences.
Anonymous 27-11-25 13:25:03 No. 2575617
>>2575329 Another PMC down. Very based.
Anonymous 27-11-25 05:38:31 No. 2575468
honestly the more i read about PMC, labor aristo, intelligensia, etc whatever bullshit the more i realize how little is actually said despite how much the western left, in particular the "online" left, is utterly fucking fetish-tier fascinated with this element of analysis.
Anonymous 27-11-25 05:30:04 No. 2575464
>>2575462 i never read 1984 but IIRC there were a few people pointing out that 90% of the insane bullshit in it was PMC types fucking with each other while all the working class schlubs just carried on without really caring about what the party PMC types were doing
Anonymous 27-11-25 05:14:53 No. 2575462
>>2575452 There was an American ex communist named James Burnham in the 1940s who wrote a book called The Managerial Revolution where he predicted that the people who we now call PMCs would lead us out of capitalism, instead of the bourgeoisie or proletariat. Someone on here told me that George Orwell's 1984 wasn't merely an allegory for what Orwell imagined Stalin's USSR to be like, but an attack on James Burnham's ideas as well.
Anonymous 27-11-25 04:47:30 No. 2575452
>The Ehrenreichs defined the PMC as educated professionals who historically did not work in corporate environments, such as doctors, scientists, lawyers, academics, artists, and journalists.[6] In a 2013 follow-up, they estimated that in the 1930s, PMC occupations made up less than 1% of total U.S. employment, but the share had risen to 24% by 1972, and 35% by 2006.[7] In that same essay, they argued that the notion of the PMC as a collective grouping was "in ruins" due to economic shifts in the 1990s and 2000s which changed their professional prospects. Some members (such as highly qualified scientists) "jump[ed] ship for more lucrative posts in direct services to capital"; others (such as lawyers, tenured professors, and doctors) found themselves in increasingly "corporation-like" workplaces; while others still (like those with backgrounds in media or the humanities) "spiral[ed] down to the retail workforce", unable to parlay their skills into higher-income jobs.[7]
Anonymous 24-11-25 16:49:03 No. 2572158
>>2572017 you are citing debunked psuedoscientific bullshit my dude. since the completion of the human genome project, it has been known that humans are 99.99% genetically identical, less diversity than any other animal (including fruit flies), and that any genetic diversity is primarily WITHIN 'racial' categories than between them. YOu are MORE LIKELY to be genetically similar to someone OUTSIDE of your ethnicity than someone of the same ethnicity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_genetics https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8604262/ https://nap.nationalacademies.org/read/26902/chapter/1 https://www.nationalacademies.org/news/researchers-need-to-rethink-and-justify-how-and-why-race-ethnicity-and-ancestry-labels-are-used-in-genetics-and-genomics-research-says-new-report https://www.google.com/books/edition/Is_Science_Racist/auH5DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=isbn:9780745689210&printsec=frontcover but to a fascist racist like you, any evidence to the contrary of your fucking RPG LARP 'playable races' categories is 'ideological propaganda/cope' so you will ignore this and find some obscure study carried out/funded by nazis or other racists.
Anonymous 23-11-25 20:33:49 No. 2571366
>>2545087 >indigenous >Mexicans https://www.google.com/search?q=deported+for+speaking+mayan Bernie Sanders thinks Trump is right to deport people for daring to speak Mayan in his settler occupied Zionist state
>>2531717 >Third Worldists who refuse to organize for the common interest of all workers of all nationalities, "Palestinians are reactionary" the only thing you're educating people about is that 'Marxism is for spiritually Israeli armchair pseuds'
>regressing to a moralistic position of pity for Third World workers and resentment against First World workers I've never once heard a single Marxist podcast talk to their undocumented slaves who actually have the jobs that depicted in the symbol of communism. Marxists have spent more time talking to worthless labor aristocrats like Contrapoints. Its impossible to explain why!
>>2531041 >US/"Israeli" foreign policy is what created and prolonged the Syrian migrant crisis, Every neoliberal in DSA has gotten behind Graham Platner (controlled by the same PR firm that manages Zohran) because they are all Zionists who are aligned with international finance capitalism.
Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 23-11-25 02:45:40 No. 2570762
>>2570650 >the ideology of the universal man. riiiight (jerking off motion)
and what sort of atrocities did this euphoric class of soy German PMC Hegelian idealist redditor armchair pseuds accomplish with their rejection of historical materialism? Believing that you have surpassed history is a pretty good definition of a "fascist" lol
>>2570544 >Science shows I get angry naturally, therefore I can kill people when I'm angry because it's natural. relevant: TikTok video elaboration on another meme video of a guy who says "modern unions are gutted and lost so much power is because they aren't involved in organized crime anymore"
https://www.tiktok.com/@seth.thomas91/video/7574301172413025566 Anonymous 22-11-25 23:35:45 No. 2570616
>>2570593 >Cartel de los Soles The fucking what?
>Cartel of the Suns (Spanish: Cartel de los Soles, Spanish pronunciation: [kaɾˈtel de los ˈsoles]) is a term used to describe state-embedded criminal networks in Venezuela allegedly composed of high-ranking members of the Armed Forces of Venezuela who are involved in the international drug trade. <Leaders >Nicolás Maduro (allegedly) >Diosdado Cabello (allegedly) >Hugo Carvajal (former, allegedly) >Tareck El Aissami (allegedly) <Allies >FARC >ELN >Sinaloa Cartel HUH?
>Former President of Venezuela Nicolás Maduro Moros, Venezuela’s vice president for the economy, Venezuela’s Minister of Defense, and Venezuela’s Chief Supreme Court Justice are among those charged in New York City; Washington, DC; and Miami, along with current and former Venezuelan government officials as well as two Fuerzas Armadas Revolucionarias de Colombia Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 22-11-25 18:39:21 No. 2570211
>>2570184 rural is more pro-cpc than the city dwellers according to harvard studies because they're seeing more rapid transformation in recent times.
>The responses from survey participants in rural areas, however, surprised the researchers, particularly over time. “We did not anticipate how quickly both low-income citizens and people from less-developed regions in China closed the satisfaction gap with high-income citizens and people from the coastal areas,” Cunningham added. >The surveys found that rural residents, generally poorer than those in cities, had more optimistic attitudes about inequality than their wealthier urban counterparts. The team’s analysis ties the closing of this satisfaction gap between rich and poor, as well as coastal and hinterland populations, to several policies including local budget spent on healthcare, welfare and education, and paved roads per capita. while, the export-oriented manufactruing model that prevailed in the 90s and 2000s resulted in prosperity in key export urban regions like the Pearl River and Yangtze River deltas, there's been a post-GFC shift to domestic housing and infrastracture which started to spread development more equitably to the interior of the country outside the coast export process regions.
china's regional disparity has been shrinking for the past two decades due to targeted poverty alleviation initiatives.
fujian was the only coastal province among the top 10 fastest growing the past decade but no coastal province was in the top 10 in the past two decades. from 2010 - 2023, rural disposable income/capita 4xed, while urban disposable income/capita roughly 2.5xed. and it's not just income, world bank paper shows how “in-kind” health & education transfers are a major form of socioeconomic redistribution in China as well
another study shows the inequality gap between educational outcomes in rural and ruban areas is shrinking.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10877417/ the inequality gap in health outcomes between rural and urban areas is narrowing as well
https://www.ncb Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 22-11-25 06:04:34 No. 2569758
>>2569076 >I am a serious person incessant neoliberal NPC dialog: "DEEPLY unserious"
>>2569079 >declared revolution on live television (my PMC socialist monocle falls into my champagne glass in shock at the idea of proletarian class taking control over the criminal pedophile ruling class)
>>2569150 >he "supports Genocide" (how?) https://kalikoba.substack.com/p/annotating-zohran-mamdanis-zionist <Zohran says we must stop “war crimes” and “these atrocities.” Yet the only thing previously described by those terms was the Hamas attack on 10/7…Never are these terms used to describe what the Zionists have done over the last two years, or in the many years before. By beginning and ending the piece with a repetition of these phrases, the focus is shifted once again to the actions of Hamas, the ultimate villain in Zohran’s version of events. "Please explain how its wrong to say Jews are responsible for their holocaust" - CPUSAnon
Anonymous 21-11-25 04:44:18 No. 2568345
>>2567815 > Sit in your armchair and post about how we're all doomed in between scrolling through tiktok lol Zionists immediately did bourgeois recuperation of TikTok because its the only place where regular working class people have any voice at all!
Marxism is not for TREND of the middle class "speaking on behalf of workers".
Marxism is not for CORPORATE ATTITUDE of "we see and hear the working class".
Marxism is not for STONER Ursula LeGuin new age neoliberals who say "we're all human, bro".
Marxism is for true DOOM-MURDER HEAD proletariat who speaks for themselves, on their own terms, with no parasitic PMC who speak on their behalf by erasing their class war into liberalism
Anonymous 17-11-25 00:58:52 No. 2563398
>>2563387 you're still a wage slave even if you have a gilded cage. if you're gonna go down this line of thinking your goal should be to survive working less than full-time, build networks of mutual aid and start doing communization. becoming part of the PMC is just striver bullshit that isn't even applicable to most people's lives these days since labor aristocracy upwards social mobility is basically a thing of the past.
17-11-25 00:52:43 No. 2563391
>>2563378 >Why wouldn't you try to get into the PMC? calm down big boss
Anonymous 17-11-25 00:42:14 No. 2563378
>>2563367 Why wouldn't you try to get into the PMC? We are never seeing true liberation for labor in our lifetimes. Fuck working hard for people who don't give a single fuck about you.
If that means illegally immigrating to some nation, living off the grid, or whatever it takes to avoid being a wageslave, so be it. Only fools accept the lot they've been given in life. If you're born poor, you have an obligation to escape slavery, even at the risk of death.
In absence of a real worker's revolution that allows the working class to benefit from the immense increase in productivity via technology, depriving the world of your labor is the most revolutionary act you can achieve.
Ratmaxx or suffer a fate worse than death.
Anonymous 16-11-25 16:31:30 No. 2562580
>>2562223 >To paint the American working class as having any single unified sense of "exceptionalism" or patriotism >>2562367 >These people don't see nonUSians as human beings man "How Graham Platner Exposes the American Left" - BadEmp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Zb6fZCqdrQ Graham Platner is not a nazi, he is a Zionist who has never harmed any Jews. He only profited off killing the millions of people who dare to oppose Israel (the World Trade Center is of course a center of NYC's Jeffrey Epstein international Zionism. Socialists think its normal and harmless for globalists to trade guns, drugs, and of course the most valuable of commodity: human beings. Sex work is work, google Bookchin!)
>sense of whiteness "nonwhite ICE agents are anti-racist you mongoloid 🤡"
>>2562524 >Chapo Trap House said "Twitter is real life." <"Graham Platner isn't a nazi because I read his reddit posts about trans people, I don't care about the millions of people who Jeffrey Epstein's settler friends killed" he labor aristocracy isn't real and PMC gamerchairs are working class!
Anonymous 16-11-25 16:30:39 No. 2562579
>a small comprador class "Gusanos are mostly anti-fascist" If you run away and hide from militant revolution as Cubans do, people will assume you are an imperialist collaborator.
>cultures no such thing, you use a German word about plant botany science to talk about humanity because you're a nazi podperson lol
https://historiansplaining.com/myth-of-the-month-22-culture/ >>2562240 >fuck your indigenous nationalism that has nothing to do with socialism <Socialists: "I agree with my fellow Jewish PMC settlers in the Abundance Zionist psyop: we need Elon Musk to save the environment with asteroid mining Star Trek sci-fi. Indigenous degrowth is reactionary and unscientific. Someone would shoot you if you demanded that my international Jewish settler friends be forced to learn the names of their Palestinian slaves in their farms and factories!" Really funny how this class of soy PMC graphic designers who says 'the symbol of communism is outdated, PMC are working class' will immediately reveal themselves to be Zionists who literally fantasize about shooting their child slaves in the head for daring to walk to their Brooklyn border walls and beg for solidarity.
Socialism is nationalist ideology, Bernie said "Trump is right to do ICE raids to deport people who dare to speak Mayan language on settler occupied land". Marx called indigenous folks "nonhistoric people" for very similar reasons as Israel does: they claim their technocratic bourgeois landgrabs "make efficient use of natural resources" that those "unscientific indigenous were failing to utilize". There's a reason why ᴉuᴉlossnW was a syndicalist and Hitler branded himself socialist: the accelerationist ideology of claiming to be building the means of production ASAP like China does. "Zohran will make the trains run on time so wage slaves can get to work faster" Consistent socialist futurist utopianism whether its in Israel or NYC
Anonymous 16-11-25 00:06:08 No. 2561920
>>2551603 lol when I think of Todd McGowan my first thought is "oh, its one of those disgusting PMC radlibs who went on Pod Damn America with that anarchist dumb guy Jake Flores. Worst podcast I've ever subscribed to!"
Anonymous 11-11-25 19:35:43 No. 2557255
>finally came to the realization of what dialectics actually meant <left his segregated imperialist apartment to engage in dialectics (i.e talking) with his slaves. <The class of "anti-woke" Marxist PMC pseudo-intellectuals have never, ever left, they aren't leftists. They will never talk to their slaves on their podcasts and youtube shows. Just incessant settler condescension and scolding about art and culture and philosophy from degenerate Contrapoints fans
Anonymous 11-11-25 18:56:13 No. 2557200
>hellspawn <negative impact on reputation liberal ideology Democrats always whine about "messaging" in their realpolitik public relations as the biggest problem facing the working class. "Stalin is a demonic satanist! His art zines are so uncouth!" lmao 😂
>>2557174 >repeating the same mistakes euphoric anti-Stalinist nazi settlers:
>"I'm a post-historical subject, my nu-bourgeois revolution is epic and based, I am beyond history, I'm modern and not like those ignorant people in the past" euphoric anti-Stalinist DSA settlers:
>(same soy redditor PMC ideology from the Elon Musk sci-fi fanclub who uses AI to manage their slaves exactly as IBM did during the holocaust, but now its a Jewish settler surveillance state of transgender drone programmers who insist they are anti-fascist) sage neoliberal threads Anonymous 11-11-25 18:32:40 No. 2557181
>banks basically cause capitalism >BOOKCHIN: Murray and I have a bit of a history together, and I think there've been some grave misunderstandings, perhaps on both our parts. I would rather see them resolved than develop into heated controversy—despite, I think, a not very generous letter that appeared over his signature and Mr. Williamson Evers's signature in Liberty, the Massachusetts Libertarian Party publication. That letter grossly misrepresented my position on Marxism as being a "necessary ideology." That's archaic, to say the least. I regard Marxism as the most sinister and the most subtle form of totalitarianism. There are people, of course, who profess to be libertarian Marxists. I believe they mean very well, and I even write in their periodicals; but I write very militantly that I regard Marxism as a very subtle form of what I would call the totalitarian ideology—all the more subtle because it professes to advance the notions of freedom.
Anonymous 08-11-25 08:31:31 No. 2553605
>Paul Thomas Anderson is less revolutionary than Paul WS Anderson who has made countless Resident Evil movies about the evil of mega-corporations like Amazon that are destroying the world. His hot wife Milla Jovovich doing karate kicks to fight mutant dogs is true world-historic proletarian culture (Infrared Haz) "facts"
>>2539943 >Pynchon's book Vineland is way harsher in his critique of the New Left >>2544451 >The thesis of this thread [is that western left are decadent for some unexplained reason] Marxism 101: our material conditions determine consciousness.
The post-WWII imperialist privilege of these "labor aristocrat" baby boomer workers turned them into complacent liberals who were the vanguard of the neoliberal counter-revolution cheering individualism rather than collective struggle:
https://gnosticpulp.substack.com/p/we-are-pynchons-fail-sons-and-thot <While there were real revolutionary actions occurring in the sixties, such as the anti-Vietnam War effort and the black liberation movement, a fictional contingent of which (Black Afro-American Division (or BAAD)) visits the hippie counter culture who is occupying a campus where they have formed a sort of temporary autonomous zone known as The People’s Republic of Rock and Roll. PR3, in its search for allies, reaches out to BAAD who sends a small party to the seaside campus. BAAD’s arrival cuts a stark difference between themselves and the hippie students. Their discipline and commitment to the movement is immediately evident, for they arrive wearing matching uniforms of “Shiny black Vietnam boots, black-on-black camo fatigues, and velvet-black berets with off-black wide-point stars on them” (230). <BAAD enters into a long debate with the students, who they brush off as “children of the surfing class” (230), that is to say, unserious. The New Deal, one suspects, was quite purposefully not for everyone. It successfully played on race divisions, a favorite move by the good ol’ US of A, by elevati Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 08-11-25 06:23:10 No. 2553551
>>2553536 the christian nationalists spook me. I don't have a handle on them because in my country christianity died in the arse when it became clear multiple churches were systematically diddling kids. there's definitely a transplanted strain of american evangelicalism diddling kids in the sticks and diddling our right wing party (into unelectability).
around here there's nothing like the megachurch grift empire or the unholy alliance of PMC blackwater and the 7 kingdoms movement.
Anonymous 08-11-25 03:53:55 No. 2553463
>>2553125 >The goal is not to have any economic immigrants because 3rd world has jobs and prosperity like rest of the world. there will always be PMCs who want to migrate to make $$$ on wall street
Anonymous 08-11-25 01:34:54 No. 2553368
>>2553358 I believe this faith in the PMC is misguided rightist deviation that deserves closer scrutinization. They say the lawyer enforces guidelines upon the corporations, but the lawyer enforces nothing upon any capitalist. The State does. This veiled support of the bourgeoisie's machinery is antithetic to Communism.
Anonymous 07-11-25 06:51:53 No. 2552579
>>2552573 <americans already live in post-scarcity. over 75% of them are overweight. Such is why they are not rioting right now Your claim is not based on evidence. High-calorie, low-nutrient food is cheap and readily available, while healthy food and opportunities for physical activity are often more expensive or inaccessible, leading to this paradox that you falsely ascribe to "treatlerite" contentment.
>Post-scarcity is a theoretical economic situation in which most goods can be produced in great abundance with minimal human labor, so that they become available to all very cheaply or even freely. >47.4 million people lived in food-insecure households. https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/food-nutrition-assistance/food-security-in-the-us/key-statistics-graphics >Most Americans don't earn enough to afford basic costs of living … For the bottom 60% of U.S. households, a "minimal quality of life" is out of reach https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cost-of-living-income-quality-of-life/ >"In contrast to international trends, people in America who live in the most poverty-dense counties are those most prone to obesity (Fig. 1A). Counties with poverty rates of greater than 35% have obesity rates 145% greater than wealthy counties." https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3198075/ >The rise in obesity rates, both nationally and internationally, is a result of changes in the environment that have simultaneously lowered the cost of food production, lowered the time and monetary cost of food consumption, increased the real cost of being physically active at work and at home, and decreased the health consequences that result from obesity by bringing a host of new drugs and devices to the market to better manage the adverse health effects that obesity promotes. Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 06-11-25 16:12:12 No. 2551669
>>2551662 >a bunch of trust fund kiddies, overqualified university graduates, and pmc radlibs
Anonymous 05-11-25 23:40:53 No. 2551054
>>2550992 Yeah the PMC is the proletariatian vanguard.
Anonymous 05-11-25 18:17:24 No. 2550472
>>2550467 Lol perhaps that was true 50 years ago but nowadays the socialist kibbutz Jews are all PMC Zionists.
Anonymous 05-11-25 18:15:18 No. 2550467
>>2550345 >doesn't know about the factories, farms, etc… in new york what's the difference between the woke Marxist Jewish settlers in Israel and their counterparts in Brooklyn?
The Jews on Doomscroll podcast scoff at the thought of ever visiting a farm or factory! These PMC art and culture hipsters would never deign themselves to ever do any "democratic socialist Kibbutz" praxis like Israeli Marxists
Anonymous 03-11-25 06:30:54 No. 2547094
>culture yall posting in a zero historical materialism radlib thread lmao Marxists scoff at degrowth because they are aligned with their fellow Zionist settlers in the "Abundance" movement who have nothing but contempt for their indigenous Palestinian slaves. Neoliberals like Ezra Klein also write euphoric leftoid books about a fully automated luxury space sci-fi utopia of "Elon Musk will save the environment with asteroid mining so I never have to get a real job" which appeals to idealist armchair gooners.
>many of these practices are based on religion and superstition, New Atheism is entirely aligned with Jeffrey Epstein who funded AI techno-futurism. If only there was an ancient book that warned us about the smug arrogant PMC pedo priest class who worshiped false idols!
>>2542399 >its not something that can be intellectually theorized, thats not that same thing, it can only happen through practical action. thinking about stuff doesn't change things, but doing things must change thinking Abundance is the ideology of settler parasites who dismiss learning actual science to actually do praxis to enrich their comrades like the working class is so emotionally desperate to do. These sci-fi losers aren't reading the endless torrent of Chinese sustainable nanotechnology science being released everyday. The Actually Existing Degrowth biodegradable plastic paradigm is ignored by these anti-degrowth neoliberals like Matt Yglesias who built their career off the psyop to make Americans do the Iraq War to extract their oil for the GROWTH of microplastics and cancerous technocratic tumors of AI that Marxist pseuds use to pretend to be hardworking scholars who are doing the work #DoingTheWork
>>2540369 >western left is ecofascism…having sustainable food supplies is “authoritarianism” "BlackRock is anti-fascist, why do you hate the global poor?" - globalist redditors at /r/Neoliberal
Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 01-11-25 02:07:11 No. 2544875
>>2544859 >The median voter has completely incoherent politics. 8/16 btw I think that's more a reflection of the incoherent politics of the political and pmc classes. Their politics are nonsense for ideological and structural reasons, and that prevents them from engagjng with the "median voter" (whatever that is) in any meaningful or constructive way.
Like, I've been polled by these people before and they a priori reject any idea or sentiment that falls outside of "do you prefer a, b or c." So take the example of the Democrats right now that are trying to grapple with their second loss to Trump. Everything outside of their bourgeois ideological bubble points to "you lost because you didn't offer people any material benefit and even cut back what was already there," and the response from these ivy league scholars is "we lost because we aren't killing trans people." Anything looks insane if you're viewing it through an insane lens.
Anonymous 31-10-25 19:15:10 No. 2544462
In the context of the USA, to move away from the "99% vs 1%" left populism and the "nationalists vs. globalists" right populism, you need to not only break down false consciousness and instill class consciousness, but you must emphasize proletarian supremacy at each opportunity, and explain why the proletariat specifically, and not the petty bourgeoisie, nor the PMC, nor the labor aristocracy, nor the lumpenproletariat, nor the incarcerated, nor the marginalized, must lead the movement for its own liberation, the class struggle, and not simply "the 99%" which will inevitably be an interclass affair led by the petty bourgeoisie. This is a serious hurdle in the US where people still to this very day look at you like you have 6 heads if you invoke anything other than "lower/middle/upper class" framework or "99% vs. 1%" or "nationalists vs globalists" or other such hogwash. These are still fancy european pretentious terms to the burger. You must make them commonplace.
Anonymous 30-10-25 16:56:11 No. 2543102
>>2543085
Glownonymous 30-10-25 16:55:16 No. 2543100
>>2543081 >the next vanguard will arise out of the PMC Hahaha no. The next vanguard will be opportunists and probably liberals(Dengists) coming to have any relevance only after US has nearly fully collapsed due to external factors like the cold war expenses and the backlash of dedollarization. And by then, I don't think anyone outside of the USA is gonna want to empower it's workers. The world economy has been liberalized, so they are just gonna want their piece of the spoils when your economy starts failing.
That's not how the "vanguard" will sell it though, but if you have bought all the bullshit prior you will buy the Yeltsinite spiel just the same.
Anonymous 30-10-25 16:53:51 No. 2543094
>>2543081 >the next vanguard will arise out of the PMC that is currently a meatgrinder for middle class Westerners 100% agree
Anonymous 30-10-25 16:44:35 No. 2543081
>>2542945 this was always the problem with "professional-managerial class" discourse, it was obvious after 2008 the white collar shit wasn't going to last and instead all of the efforts of the left was to demonize PMCs and say that based rightoids are more based for saying based things and saying based things means you have more revolutionary potential
the next vanguard will arise out of the PMC that is currently a meatgrinder for middle class Westerners, there will be some who emerge from the detritus of corporate fiefdoms to destroy it
Anonymous 29-10-25 15:51:40 No. 2541616
>>2541216 >in the mouth of madness That movie is about how "the guy who the story of our world controls us", basically about all these slovenly AI death cultists who try to control human thought, and Trump's cabinet of nosferatu's like Stephen Miller telling weird stories about "people only think I'm a demon because of Soros told them about my sickly pallor"
>>2541373 >concentration camp for homeless people the Zionist media refuses to use that term and calls it a "campus" in typical soy PMC Obama neoliberal fashion. LEARNING TO CODE WILL SET YOU FREE 💀
King Lear 29-10-25 02:42:32 No. 2540912
>>2540545 I understand where your sentiment is coming from due to the horrific barbarity of the Zionist Genocide of Gaza, but if we step back and take a long view of History from a Dialectical Materialist perspective, you realize that the reason the Zionist Genocide of Gaza feels so unique is primarily because it has been so much more fully documented by Primary Sources then past Genocides that were of equal or often much greater Scale and Barbarity, due to the existence of the Internet, Social Media, and 24/7 Cable News, as prominent examples of past Genocides carried out by various Settler-Colonial and Fascist States since the rise of European Colonialism include the Holocaust, the 1943 Bengal Famine, the Congo Genocide, the Irish Potato Famine, the Transatlantic Slave Trade, and the Native American Genocide, just to name a few, and if you apply your logic to its obvious conclusion, you would support the collective punishment of most European Nations/Ethnic groups (not just Western Europeans like the English, French, Dutch, Germans, Italians, Spanish, Portuguese, etc, but the Russians as well, due to the Russian Settler-Colonization/Genocide of Siberia and parts of Central Asia) and all European Diaspora populations such as Anglo-Americans, Anglo-Canadians, Québécois, Anglo-Australians, White Hispanics, etc. due to the past Genocidal Settler-Colonialism carried out by members of those Ethnic groups/Nations, as it is extremely hypocritical, and dare I say “Anti-Semitic”, to apply this strict standard to Jews and not to all of these White European populations, and it is definitely worth noting that as much as many don’t want to admit it, even before 1492, Genocide was unfortunately the norm throughout History, both of the Violent (Slaughtering entire Ethnic Groups/Nations) and Cultural (Assimilating and Mixing entire Ethnic groups/Nations out of existence) variety, as seen in the Video of the Changing Ethnic Map of Europe over the past 2000 years I posted, which shows dozens of Nations/Ethnic groups in Europe, divided into several large Ethno-Linguistic groups, most notably the Germanic peoples, Slavic Peoples, Romance Peoples, etc. all of which have been Migrating/Invading, Mixing, Assimilating, and Genociding each other over the past 2000 years, with many Historical Invasions/Conquests/Migrations which archeologists previously thought were cases of elit
Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Glownonymous 28-10-25 15:04:00 No. 2540056
>>2539660 >It became more of a thing in the early 2000s when Obama used grassroots orgs to get elected. Ok so it's normal to do unpaid work for ultraliberal rich politicians, got it. Bizarre, to do charity for the rich and powerful.
I was quite surprised when Zohran's campaign expenses, at least some part of it I bet, like everywhere else there is a big wall of bureucracy obscuring much of the money flows. But I digress, the man apparently hit the cap of money he could spend on campaign, and had to ask people to stop donating at around $14m. (
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/05/nyregion/mamdani-donations-mayor-money.html )
And I'm looking at this stuff and man. Zohran has 14 million to spend. He can pay millions upon millions to PMC consultants and media companies
https://www.nyccfb.info/ftmsearch/Candidates/Expenditures?ec=2025&rt=can&cand=2899&stmt=&trans=F But can't spare a single say, $600k~ payment to give every one of the 60k volunteers a thousand bucks for their efforts.
Ah but I know, He can't do that because of the tight regulations and bureaucracy with making all those people employees and whatnot. They understand, they are just doing it for the love of the game, I'm sure. And that only makes it weirder.
Anonymous 28-10-25 10:05:28 No. 2539787
>>2539429 >which barely concerns an average EU prole You are right, it does. And consumer protection barely concerns average prole, and freedom of movement barely concerns average prole, and regional investments barely concern average prole, but when you add them up you will find out EU actually concerns great deal of people.
I cant properly respond to your points because there is nothing of substance to respond to, all you do is scream "bourgeoisee", "PMC", "liberal", as if that was a replacement for analysis or an argument. I could bring up working people from poorer EU countries benefiting from free movement, and you are just going to call them all PMC bourgeois threatlerites, I am sorry, I cant construct an counterargument to your personal affect.
Anonymous 27-10-25 23:38:41 No. 2539429
>>2539367 >You just have some emotionally motivated dislike of EU My dislike for the EU is political in nature because the EU is not a person but a political entitiy and that dislike is from a working class perspective. I gave you a number of clear examples why the EU is shit in particular for working class people but for some reason you got triggered by mentioning Erasmus which barely concerns an average EU prole but is loved by middle class youth and smug liberals in particular because they like to be smug about their education and how much they know about the world. Erasmus is for kids with higher education which means upper middle class because 75% of PMC offspring receives higher education. These kids don't need stipendia, because their parents are top earners. Meanwhile only 25% of kids with working class background make it into higher education. So i reckon you're a deluded middle class burger liberal who knows nothing about the EU's actual nature or you're a dishonest liberal EU shill. Either way, i'm glad i made you upset.
Anonymous 27-10-25 20:57:20 No. 2539252
>>2539146 >Everybody has private market economy. None of its current members were anything other than private market economies before joining, and none of them currently show any desire to be anything but. Except every single post-communist country which were given explicit demands by European advisors that they should fully open their markets to the West and sell off all of their state-owned industry if they ever want to join the EU. Their economies were purposefully hollowed under a carefully executed plan that was explicitly neoliberal.
What's so good about brain drain in poorer Eastern European countries and increased competition among workers in richer Western European countries? Or about the middle strata of Southern European countries being turned into open-air museums with sky-high unemployment and ordinary people getting priced out of major cities? Does anyone like these aspects of open borders?
The reason why they are there in agriculture is because farmers are constantly in revolt. It wouldn't be otherwise without the EU, especially when it has already done a lot to make agriculture more export-driven and severely reduce the food sovereignty of European countries. In the car industry they are mostly about how to annoy the people sitting in the car the most effectively. They are a protectionist measure which is fine by me against non-EU countries but it also makes cars stupidly expensive. I have to admit the tech industry regulations are cool, but it's also not a flex because the only reason the EU is doing objectively good things like making USB-C mandatory is because it has no tech companies to speak of and in practice that means that US companies control the minds of Europeans and any EU country can be literally turned off at a push of a button. But I don't think there is a single person that is glad about those stupid plastic bottle caps, other than the (most likely German) companies which were given the chance to developed otherwise unnecessary machinery specifically for crushing plastic bottles.
What do you mean exactly? The mandatory propaganda classes in high school ab
Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 27-10-25 19:34:00 No. 2539155
>>2538938 Workers absolutely support right-wing parties
That doesn't mean petit-bourgeois can't right-wing too, but that depends on what we mean by petit-bourgeois. Actual small property owners that produce real goods, farmers in particular, are usually right-wing nationalists. This is what Marx meant in his time by petit-bourgeois and it is still correct in the economic sense, but context matters. The way capitalism developed in the late 19th and early 20th century, the uppers strata of the working class, professionals and the trade union bureacracy became just as subservient to capital as the petit-bourgeois. After neoliberalism, material production of things became less and less useful to capital and the source of profits shifted to monopoly rents. This made the industrial and agricultural petit-bourgeois an opponent of finance capital. Meanwhile the lower strata of the working class became lumpenized and its upper strata in large part shifted from managing industry to managing rentier capitalism. So in the political sense the real reactionary middle class is the professional-managerial class, and not the commodity-producing small property owners. It only makes it clearer that certain types PMCs refuse to be legally classified as workers because with their high income it's more beneficial for them to give up the legal protections that people classified as "employed" enjoy just so they can avoid paying mandatory social security contributions. These are the people who vote for mainstream liberal/green/"soc"dem/conservative parties. They are the ones with a stake in the system. Not the farmers getting raped by Monsanto.
Anonymous 24-10-25 09:33:19 No. 2534711
>>2534690 What's odd here is that Labour are doing their best to alienate high autism score, PMC, middle class, high status, etc etc voters instead of embracing them. They're destroying their own value as a status symbol by pandering to low status ideas and, worst of all, they're not even successful at winning those people because they're a gang of awkward dorks. It's like Waitrose becoming a discount supermarket, losing all their middle class customers, and still being avoided by price conscious shoppers because it's fucking Waitrose.
Anonymous 24-10-25 09:08:23 No. 2534690
>>2534654 the elite theory explanation is that the working class have low social status so cannot be supported by labour. thats it. this is not to say that these surrogate groups like ethnic minorities necessarily have high social status (still, they do out-margin poor whites), its only to say that to support them as a white person denotes high social status, while fighting the ignorant peasants beats away the ogres. its a politics of fashion. but why is this? because virtue signalling is a form of social intelligence which affects high I.Q. individuals, with labour constituents and members generally having higher education over other groups. this difference between the workers and bourgeois intelligentsia is also commented upon by lenin as a necessary contradiction:
<We have said that there could not have been Social-Democratic consciousness among the workers. It would have to be brought to them from without. The history of all countries shows that the working class, exclusively by its own effort, is able to develop only trade union consciousness, i.e., the conviction that it is necessary to combine in unions, fight the employers, and strive to compel the government to pass necessary labour legislation, etc.[2] The theory of socialism, however, grew out of the philosophic, historical, and economic theories elaborated by educated representatives of the propertied classes, by intellectuals. By their social status the founders of modern scientific socialism, Marx and Engels, themselves belonged to the bourgeois intelligentsia. https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1901/witbd/ii.htm so then, there is a conflict of interest between the proletariat and the communist party, even as marx understood it in the manifesto, with communists themselves only being a clique of internationalists. pver time, labour has become filled with more of the educated (PMC) , over traditional sects like trade unionists, and this has affected the political attitude.
Anonymous 24-10-25 04:49:32 No. 2534495
>>2532869 >Steaks for everyone, for every meal under communism >>2532971 >Finally. A spark of consciousness in this swamp of sentimentalism Abundance is, of course, Zionist ideology from the class of euphoric PMC Elon Musk technocrats. Neoliberals explicitly condemn degrowth using the exact same language as their fellow PMC Marxist counterparts in the ACP who also talk like smug anime villains as they scold they slaves. Why?
Because they are all the class of settler cannibals who define their entire personality around the murder of indigenous humans ("nonhistoric people" as Marx and Engels said regarding their historical materialism program that neatly aligns with what German industrialists said during the holocaust). Socialists whole thing is "we need fully automated luxury space communism, in my utopia, I will be the Contrapoints art critic in the Star Trek spaceship along with Elon Musk". Marxists seethe at the thought of being forced to learn the names of their Palestinian slaves and to work alongside them to do the same jobs they do. Nothing could make the Ben Burgis class of PMC settler socialist Jews more angry than their slaves ignoring their incessant scolding from them and their fellow Big Industry psyop friend Charlie Kirk
Anonymous 23-10-25 08:44:18 No. 2532811
>>2532727 The greens aren't going to win the election (yet) because the country is full of pensioners and resentful low-status idiots, but the demographics get more favourable year by year (more 2019 Tory voters died than switched in 2024!).
Labour aren't going to win the election because despite being the natural PMC party their plan is to alienate everyone who knows the difference between a paedo and a pediatrician.
Media manipulation primarily works on undesirable demographics (remember, if only people with degrees could vote we'd be well into the third Corbyn term despite media aimed at PMC, like the Guardian, doing more than most to undermine him) so the press coming out against the greens won't affect them - the "seriousness" of a policy platform is an illusion: Johnson 2019 and Starmer 2024 both had deeply unserious platforms cosplaying as serious.
The idea that UK feminists are more serious than those elsewhere is risible. Every trans person in the country could be a rapist and the negative attention they receive would still be excessive relative to their numbers. Relative social status is a much better explanation:
The UK has more cranks who resent that transhumanists (on twitter) are high status (on twitter) and they aren't, despite being an Observer columnist and a dutiful class traitor with an affected accent and therefore clearly more deserving. It's so unfair when dangerhairs mock you and spoonerise your stupid double barreled name in the replies to your column where you distastefully joke about Thai transsexuals. (Don't they understand that you're a high status columnist, well above a mere pleb, or a man in a dress [tee-hee!], and certainly above some third world hooker?)
But fortunately there's a waiting audience for their columnist whining on Mumsnet: a Blairite type bitter that society doesn't give a damn about middle aged or older women (a legitimate resentment, but wrongly sublimated into resentment of the young and cool rather than real activism to change this)
Meanwhile in normal countries PMC and liberals understand that it's much cooler to endorse trans rights because it signals their own progressiveness and tolerance and it alienates low-openness conservative losers. It's a brilliant filtering mechanism and a signal of desirable traits to boot.
(Ask yourself: if you wanted to keep /pol/ retards out of your website without adopting an explicitly partisan stance like "no ri
Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 22-10-25 18:27:31 No. 2531430
>>2531358 Yes and no, mostly yes. The status of many current elites is illegitimate (I mean look at the pathetic spectacle of the PLP elves trying to appeal to the ogres) and they deserve their downfall, but on the whole their replacements should be high cultural capital lefty-liberal sorts who're appropriately performatively anti-elitist in a way that chafes a little bit (because it hypocritically deflects from their - deserved - higher status) but not enough that you'd refuse to vote for them.
Labour will die because it doesn't have the guts to become a PMC (and temporarily shelf stacking would-be PMC) party, secure (but modest) in its own superiority.
>>2531414 Low status low openness shithole subject to negative selection effects (all the best Britons were smart enough to leave to better lands, we're the descendants of those too foolish, cowardly, or - hopefully not many on leftypol - aristocratically
inbred to leave)
But we can entertain ourselves coming up with ways to save it and reasons for why it's damned.
Anonymous 22-10-25 17:34:14 No. 2531346
>>2530830 >Yeah the left doesn't want border patrols, wants the military disbanded, doesn't want police, wants to ban the real estate market etc leaving by any means possible ) that it's not yet a walkover.so 2021 rather than because it's too radical. In the PMC world you fund public services so they've got something to do paperwork for - meanwhile in dumbworld you defund public services to wipe the smirk off the PMC's faces because even though it hurts everyone, their status falls relative to Dumbo's. Then the savings go to some cunt like Farage (who's low status by virtue of being a wanker, making him an ally of those who're low status because they're not hip enough to keep up with PMC lingo)
Anonymous 20-10-25 20:00:25 No. 2528710
>>2528706 Dems don’t pander to Christians. They pander to “logical” and “rational” educated elites (PMC). The people who think they’re too smart for religious faith.
Anonymous 20-10-25 03:21:25 No. 2527866
Liberals are always condescending, like they feel a constant urge to put the "bad people" (in this case, MAGAts) in their place. Makes sense that so many Democrat Party voters happen to be PMC.
sage Anonymous 26-09-25 15:33:51 No. 2496863
yet another labor aristocrat armchair debate for soy PMC radlibs who have never gotten any dirt under their fingernails like their slaves
>>2493012 >nikola tesla actually did some actual science on the side of his alchemy People continually express the hauntology of Telsa's alternative history that never existed, but no one ever imagines an alternative Lysenko future. No one ever asks "wot if a red potato was yellow"
>>2495200 >the assertion that bourgeois science is neutral and free of ideology USSR secret police kidnapping? (scoffs) the CIA gives funding to avant garde artists, that's a much worse atrocity actually
goalpost shifting:
>>2496440 >all he ever really said was that organisms inherent acquired characteristics the most revolutionary scientist is suddenly just a smol bean uwu
>>2496558 Post too long. Click here to view the full text. Anonymous 22-09-25 19:24:55 No. 2491487
>>2367946 "Lenin is condemned by modern Trotskyist PMC history 😏"…"🫨 wait no, you have to ignore the satanic New World Order of pedophile globalists who force children to spend hundreds of dollars to buy those history textbooks from the Zionist agent Robert Maxwell. We need to talk about pre-1992 history actually, REEEEEEEEEE!!!!"
Anonymous 20-09-25 19:01:25 No. 2488853
>China turns shitholes into functioning cities Dengists are just the soy PMC wing of fascism
>>2488125 >you MUST be 100% pro-China or else you're CIA African children have access to clean drinking water: but at what cost?
Anonymous 24-08-25 11:25:43 No. 2445185
>>2445177 There's a difference between a German financier or industrialist backing Hitler because they believe it to be financially lucrative and see unions and communists as a threat, and an incel member of the Freikorps or the SA who simply wants to beat Jews to death and violently rape a woman.
I recommend 'Male Fantasies' by Klaus Theweleit for a more in depth look and how it aligns with what I wrote.
No, it explains why the motivations of bougie NrX reactionaries are different from a white suburban chuds ranting about black people on xitter.
You cannot win these people over with reformism. They do not care about socialism no matter whether they're PMCs, proles or, lumpen. They're sexually frustrated, insecure, and want to watch other people suffer, or at least ensure they won't act as their bosses or remind them of the sex they're not having. Their concerns are libidinal and sexually pathological, not economic.
The NEETs who only care about their tendies, anime and video games aren't going to be voting for anyone anyway. Except maybe whoever they think will continue to allow them to live like that.
Anonymous 04-08-25 23:45:08 No. 2417329
>>2416872 Thanks for the reply. I didn't mean to imply that
I think religion is impossible to reconcile with communism. I've been thinking about the role of religion in society a lot lately, ever since my brother started getting really into his Christian faith, while at the same time retaining his left SocDem politics. As in he is still opposed to communism in high principle, but if I lay out my idea of a program to transition to communism (radically democratize the state, nationalize the monopolies while allowing small businesses to operate with incentives towards becoming co-operatives, etc.) he agrees with it. In fact I think his study of Jesus's teachings as described in the New Testament has even pushed him to the left. It's also pushed him to the right on "sexual politics" however - he's anti-abortion now, and while he's not anti-gay, I get the impression that he interprets the holy texts to mean that non-reproductive sex is sin but congenitally infertile people get a pass.
What I'm trying to say here is that I think religion, or at least Christianity, is compatible with socialism in practice. I'm an atheist, but when it comes to left-wing Christians I think I'd feel downright uncomfortable trying to persuade them to give up on religion.
Your point about people taking up communism as some kind of penance for their sins of benefiting from imperialism / racism / being a PMC Starbucks barista instead of shoveling coal etc. etc. is well said. I had an amusing discussion with one of those kinds of people - he was ashamed of owning a Macbook before his communist "conversion" but recoiled at the thought of paying $300 a year in party dues. I was paying more than that not only in dollars but also as a percentage of my income. I guess you can compare my example to Christians who obsess over their sins of watching porn etc. but refuse to get their wallets out to help the poor.
Anonymous 29-07-25 17:04:39 No. 2407908
>>2398307 >>the left >look inside it’s far right neoliberals every American settler socialist movement over the last 15 years: "Google Bookchin, we must SMASH THE AUTHORITARIAN STATE for its racist regulations of consumer freedom for individuals"
People after googling Bookchin: "so wait, anarchists have 'no quarrel' with neoliberals who support selling children in the free market?"
lol PMC socialist literally dream of having woke versions of Jeffrey Epstein pagan temple islands, where sex workers are "liberated" from Stalinist oppression to cross borders to be servants of the class of redditors. Really makes you think about what Ukraine's "revolution of dignity" in 2014 was really about!
Anonymous 16-03-25 16:14:13 No. 2190176
>>2190167 That's not an unfounded belief since middle class PMCs/intelligentsia have played prominent roles in other colour revolutions. In Eastern Europe these types tend to be Western facing and culturally/politically liberal, connected to international finance capital as middle managers, etc. However things do seem different here given the specificity of the demands which boil down to a transparent investigation of the train station collapse, amnesty for protestors/prosecution of police abuse, and an increase in education funding. I think students are in general relatively susceptible to being deployed as part of a colour revolution, but that doesn't mean it's always the case and there isn't much to indicate that it's happening here.