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25 results in /leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2950864
More absolutely empathetic? Or relatively empathetic?
<Yet, one cannot exclude the possibility that the brain of rightists might respond differently, depending on other empathic contexts.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10281241/
Wouldn't you say it is a relative matter? What is a universal empathy?


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>>2950854
>your correct quip cuts through my pretentious bullshit
I know - but humour me, do you really think you're not a loser by the self-evident act of posting on this site? We're all losers here.
>you'll say next: "waah, waah, liberals aren't leftists
Well, are they or arent they?
You waltz in with a political superiority complex in the name of open,-mindedness yet only stsgger yourself in the process. Know this, anon, you are not better than anyone else. We are all a mixed bag. Study:
<Several studies in political psychology reported higher levels of empathy among political leftists (i.e. liberals) as compared to political rightists (i.e. conservatives). Yet, all those studies lean on self-reports, which are often limited by subjective bias and conformity to social norms
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10281241/
So, the results of the study show that self-identified leftists will also self-identify as empathetic. We return to my original sarcasm - to you, being a leftist is about HECKING EMPATHY; e.g. virtue signalling. What are you (and OP) really saying except that "leftists are better people than rightists"? You're just a virtue signaller. Let's be honest.


>>2950848
you do not strike me as being of a disposition that it would be enjoyable to try to inform. your quip that "leftypol is full of non-white losers" is so stupid, so context-blind as to be staggering.
you get one study and one guess what you'll say next: "waah, waah, liberals aren't leftists, i'm not allowed to make inferences without an adult to help me."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10281241/

have a mediocre day.


>>2948429
>>2948429
>no one seems to want these things, regardless of whether they're PMC or lumpen or labor aristocrat or factory worker or whatever
That's sort of what I'm getting at. We need to think more deeply about why. Up until now the answer has been "treats" which led us to put our faith in those with less treats. However I think the 20th and 21st centuries up to now have proven that explanation false. I think before we can answer questions about reform vs revolution, we need to figure out why people seem to have so little interest in socialism altogether.


>>2948407
Man all this yapping about labor aristocrats and you ignore the elephant in the room. NO ONE actually wants or puts forth a communist program. Not one relevant political party or organisation anywhere actually calls for the abolition of private property, money, commodity production etc. No one actually critiques capitalism more than some libtarted "le greedy billionaires" or "healthcare is a RIGHT". And absolutely no one calls for internationalism and abolition of religion and nation and other such things. No one proposes these things and no one seems to want these things, regardless of whether they're PMC or lumpen or labor aristocrat or factory worker or whatever.


How are you claiming they're different? That the PMC doesn't exist as a distinct polity in the periphery? I think that's self-evident, southern tertiary educated labor is highly exploitative otherwise nobody in Indian would want a H-1B to do the same soulless office job.


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class structure in the periphery isn't the same as in the imperial core, that much should be obvious to anyone familiar with the concept of imperialism/who's familiar with lenin's works or even some more recent books like monopoly capital by sweezy

is it then reasonable to treat books like catherine liu's book on PMC as anything more than a fun fact on how fruits of labour captured by MNCs via FDI get distributed in the imperial core with no relevance to your country's situation at large?

I ask because I got into an argument with someone over a podcast that talked about this, I essentially said that it is futile to discuss it in the periphery and it was somehow a "controversial" opinion to have

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>>2941243
Luigi Mangione was a data scientist.

>>2941233
Part of me wishes PMC meant "Professional, Managerial, and Creative" as a better descriptor of the classes targeted by AI. It's going to be the Blue Tribe version of MAGA as a backlash against outsourcing and free trade in goods. It will be notionally "socialist" in a DSA sense, but probably won't escalate to Leninism (not in the least because of AI-enabled mass surveillance and data processing).

There's a reason all the tech lords switched on a dime to all going to the GOP right when LLMs started being released, and it's not because they're all MAGAdonian Sauls of Tarsus.

I am forced to note, however, that the Russian Revolution was led by the vanguard intelligentsia and mobilized the Proletariat; if someone can marry the immiserated blue-collar and white-collar classes, they would be unstoppable even in bourgeois small-d democratic politics, like FDR.


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>>2941244
>Who even counts as PMC?
according to leftoidpol everyone who isn't a blue collar worker from the third world


Small capitalist multipolaroids love talking about muh PMC huh


Today's trend of talking about PMC is like 40 years late because the part of this strata that matters to the left is merging with the working class or has already done so. It's driven by people who were annoyed by millennial leftists and their 2019 DSA con tier mental gymnastics, they were part of that stuff and now they want to do everything opposite and talking about based conservative post-leftism with petit bourgeois characteristics or whatever.


Downwardly mobile PMC types make up the bulk of the DSA already


Who even counts as PMC? Are they just skilled mental workers? Are there enough of these people for any of this to matter?


I don't believe in the PMC revolt or even PMC narodnik, they are a demographic that's been brainwashed by non-violence and orderliness, they are asiatics. Theyll demand MAID before they do anything radical.
Tyler Robinson was a studen, Good and Pretti were working class, most leftist with balls today are academics, econ, polsci people or wannabe.


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With AI now cutting so many jobs, especially in CompSci but other jobs as well that are normally defined as PMC and them now having to settle for things like working retail or fast food (at least temporarily before getting a job in your field), how will that effect the consciousness of these people. Now, the dream is that they all become class conscious, and they see the woes of the working class and gain sympathy. But I also see a sort of resentment and elitism that could form. Seeing the work as beneath them and resenting the regular joes that have to work that job full time.




Does anyone have a dump or some good screenshots relating to the leaked zionist groupchats for lawyers/academics/PMCs from a couple of years back?
I get that the media/gov have tried to scrub them from the internet; just curious to see the way these people talk about the cancellations & social control they were enacting from within these groupchats


If only the PMC class of socialists truly understood the dire straights the bottom half of the working class actually faces.

I often find myself in a sort of wonder. How can I be someone from the trailer park, from the single wide rental, and still speak and have people listen? It almost seems anti-theoretical to what socialism has manifested itself as in the imperial core. I'm trailer trash destined to work minimum wage Dollar General type jobs until I die a death of despair. I was born in a 'sacrifice zone'. My life literally never mattered. Not once. And yet? An outcry of support. Incredible donations. Incredible readership. A collective, a team of cadre behind me.

Im with the folks on the streets as you already know. I think that if the DSA can't capture this energy they will fracture and a lot of momentum will die with them. That's not optimal when your facing down climate change. Climate change is personal to me, Louisiana is Tuvalu, Florida is Tuvalu. The whole of the southern coast is Tuvalu. My people and her land sacrificed for petro-chemical profit.


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>>2924306
>Except the severed head keep living for like thrity seconds before death
>>2924371
>it's proven the head is still conscious after beheading.

The best available evidence suggests that a person decapitated by a guillotine would lose consciousness within seconds, probably very rapidly, rather than remaining consciously aware for minutes. A 2023 medical review of the historical and physiological evidence reached that conclusion, while emphasizing that direct evidence in humans is necessarily limited.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9930870/

Some electrical activity can continue in a brain after consciousness has already been lost. Animal experiments have demonstrated post-decapitation EEG activity, but that activity doesn't establish conscious awareness or the ability to perceive pain.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/089203629290004T


>>2919604
that doesn't make sense, the "foot in the door" approach is a plan to try to accomplish one political project somehow using a constituency built up and voting for a DIFFERENT PLATFORM. It's just a rationalization of being a fat cat forever and going nowhere, we always will have midterms and re-election to worry about so the time to use the constituency you actually have as support for doing something fundamentally different never arrives, you can't just trick people into liking socialism by doing something else entirely and calling it socialism. You need a political movement that actually is in line with what you are allegedly actually trying to accomplish if that's anything but being a middle class PMC demsucc fat cat!!!


>>2916779
>>2916748
There is actually a very useful problem with your latest appeal to my US example, because you have now stated your inference in its clearest form:

“Since foreign convictions per capita are lower than the US citizen, we then see the same reflected in the illegal immigrants. So, it can have universal logic.”

No. And this is precisely where the US example becomes useful.

You have just described a logical principle:

If population A has rate X, and subgroup B is contained within A, then B can be assigned rate X unless there is evidence of an anomaly.

The Texas evidence provides a direct counterexample to that principle.

The Texas data actually measured the subgroup
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>>2916454
>>2916488
Now, There is actually a useful contrast here, because the United States demonstrates exactly what the kind of analysis you are asking me to accept would look like when the necessary data actually exist.

Take the peer-reviewed Texas study by Light, He and Robey, published in PNAS. The researchers were able to use Texas Department of Public Safety data that record immigration status for arrestees, allowing them to compare undocumented immigrants, legal immigrants and native-born US citizens directly over 2012–2018. (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7768760/)

And the result was not merely an aggregate “foreigners are X% of arrests” calculation.

They calculated population rates.

They found that undocumented immigrants had the lowest felony arrest rates of the three groups. Native-born citizens were more than twice as likely as undocumented immigrants to be arrested for violent felonies, 2.5 times as likely for drug felonies, and more than four times as likely for property felonies. Most importantly for our discussion, when they broke violent crime down further, undocumented immigrants were roughly half as likely as native-born citizens to be arrested for sexual assault. (https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2014704117)

That is the kind of evidence that can actually answer the question.

It gives you:
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pmc status?


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>>2904609
rna nasal sprays and nootropics are all here already. crispr is here already. bioelectric technology is currently being developed and tested on smaller organisms. they have already been able to stimulate certain organisms to grow extra organs, regenerate limbs, slow the proliferation of cancer, and such
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abj2164
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3587383/
https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6694/14/6/1499
>I will die an incel chud
the ultimate problem is that you have a loser mindset. the online right wing has come to celebrate decadence and anti-social behaviour because it now just appeals to weak failed males ("chuds") who are addicted to their screens. imagine if there was a biotechnology program as large as america's military industrial complex given the shocking progress we have already been making? naturally such a thing shall be built when we conquer the continent

>>2904613
call it whatever you want. there is a difference between base determining the superstructure (in the last instance) and the idea that humans can never change what they are. the latter contradicts marx's understanding of species being

>>2904614
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/lithp.html

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>>2398307
>>the left
>look inside it’s far right neoliberals
every American settler socialist movement over the last 15 years: "Google Bookchin, we must SMASH THE AUTHORITARIAN STATE for its racist regulations of consumer freedom for individuals"
People after googling Bookchin: "so wait, anarchists have 'no quarrel' with neoliberals who support selling children in the free market?"

lol PMC socialist literally dream of having woke versions of Jeffrey Epstein pagan temple islands, where sex workers are "liberated" from Stalinist oppression to cross borders to be servants of the class of redditors. Really makes you think about what Ukraine's "revolution of dignity" in 2014 was really about!