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47 results in /leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2825988
No, you're still not going abstract enough: they are wars between different basic personality types, taste / "cultural capital", and, in aggregate, intelligence.. While petite-bourgeoisie skew one way and "PMC" skew the other, this pseudo-class analysis breaks down when you have to account for proletarians on both sides, different kinds of lumpen and pseudo-lumpen on opposing sides, tech workers generally skewing reactionary but occasionally skewing outright communist, and so on.

If you take a look at any piece of polling data you can find, the last thing on earth you want is the decline of university education. Politics today is fundamentally a conflict between high-openness, high agreeableness, mid-high neuroticism leftists/liberals, and low openness, low agreeableness, low-mid neuroticism reactionaries. The number one empirical predictors of where you'll fall on that scale are education level, and age. Now, you can't do anything about age, but you can control education levels. (And since University enrollment has gone up over time and older degree-educated people generally skew left-liberal, age may just be a proxy for education anyway.)

The dominant material factor beyond liberals losing control of culture is that the underlying neuroticism of the liberal type lead them to social justice and thence to socialism. That constant sense of unease needs an intellectual explanation, and they settled first on identity issues, and then as token measures on that front didn't work, on the economic system as a whole. The bourgeoisie as a whole realized by around 2023-4 that the carrot approach to co-opting these demands wasn't working, so they went for the stick and backed Trump, which set an expectation of a general rightward cultural shift.

This, however, has not really materialized. Institutions will continue to skew liberal because you have to be pretty smart to run an institution and rightists have basically made it their mission to look as dumb as possible. The cultural status of liberals remains basically intact. AI slop undermines the market position of freelance logo designers or whatever, but it does nothing to harm the cultural status of artists as a whole - if anything, it raises it because now people with bad taste can flag themselves more openly.
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>>2825988
>Likewise, the working-class doesn't care about cultural issues all that much either and really only cares about short-term economic stuff like the price of gas.
I wonder if it's just because material factors figure more highly. Another example I was thinking of was the Ukraine war. In Ukraine, it's a real war that people are fighting. But overwhelmingly most NAFO people on the internet speaking English are pretty comfortable, their politics tends to be very establishment, and I think they relate to the war in a symbolic way.

>On an almost identical note, multiple liberal women have raised hysteria over big retail chains like Target and Nordstrom selling milkmaid dresses, calling it "tradwife coded" and saying it's indicative that women's civil rights will be taken away … We also see this very clearly with the "clean girl" aesthetic being demonized as right-wing or "eugenics-coded" with the heavy makeup/blue eyeshadow look being championed for being (allegedly) progressive.

You're telling me all of this for the first time, because I don't really use social media anymore (a little bit for different subjects). But I also thought it was the other way around? Like the clean girl look was liberal, and the heavy makeup look was conservative. Look at MAGA women for example, they go pretty heavy on makeup and plastic surgery.

I'm tempted to almost try to explain this more with psychoanalysis or something. People seem to "interpellate" politics through social cues, race, gender, how people dress, talk, walk. Do you remember Milo Yiannopolous. He was a right-wing provocauter who is washed up now, but he would go to college campuses and perform in drag and say stuff that was right-wing as hell, which provoked extreme, red-in-the-face rage among campus liberals. He knew they were going to do this and exploited it. But I'm not sure those liberals would have the same reaction if he wasn't gay and doing drag, because it wouldn't have destabilized their own framework of ingroups/outgroups (which includes gays in the ingroup as basically magical elves who exist to affirm their beliefs). He was just really threatening to some of these liberals, even though he was just some scummy fag with a drug problem.

Charlie Kirk? He didn't trigger liberals that much. One kiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


>>2827168 (me)

Now regarding class, I really don't think these things (PMC, petit bourg, urban/rural divide) matter much here. Remember the "diner goth" thing that came up a while ago? Due to the internet, you will find subcultures everywhere across different classes and ethnicities.

There are soyfacing IT workers making $300k/year who are furries and into Kpop and there lumpen Nazis who are into the same shit as well.

And finally regarding fashion, I was never much into fashion but I'll just give my vibes based opinion. Looking at picrel, I think people are just slapping random shit together. And this has been happening for many years now, so it's getting increasingly difficult to identify any real MASS trends. I emphasize mass here. Sure there are dozens of microtrends but they don't give much fodder for analyzing the underlying base.


>>2825988
small business owners are only a small part of the petit bourgeois you pseud midwit

>and the PMC

wtf does PMC even mean? anyone between the proletariat and the haute bourgeois? we already have a word for that, middle classes or petit bourgeoisie


The “PMC” does not exist.


>>2826277
Based lad.

If David gets laid off or his employer goes out of business, david has no more income.

A deli owner decides who gets the privilege of luxuries like food to survive, and maybe 4 walls and a roof to sit in between shifts. The deli owner could liquidate their property and make significantly more than they would in a year to invest or fuck off and do whatever, otherwise they wouldn't bother running the business in the first place and just get a similar job as david.

Additionally, he can take out loans, pay very little in taxes, and other benefits.

It indicates a lack of knowledge and life experience to think that the main benefit of owning a businesses is getting to write ones own paycheck, and a special kind of retardation to think that the hypothetical is anywhere near a gotcha.

Not unlike how patsoc fascists get when they talk about PMCs. Labor aristocracy is a thing but it will never change the fundamental class relations.


 

Is it fair to say that most of the culture wars that take place in American politics are merely fights between the petite-bourgeoisie (small business owners) and the PMC?

The ruling class doesn't seem to care about the cultural bullshit since they're not really affected by it. Likewise, the working-class doesn't care about cultural issues all that much either and really only cares about short-term economic stuff like the price of gas. Many of the conservative cultural attributes that are thrown on to the working-class are actually the traits of the petit-bourg (being anti-abortion and anti-queer, for instance).

Right now, in the era of social media, it seems like culture wars and "symbolic crusades" are at an all-time high. Interestingly though, much unlike the culture wars of the 80s-2000s which were lead by the right, these contemporary culture wars seem to be mostly lead by snarky white liberals who overwhelmingly make up the PMC. Take, for instance, something like the backlash against Olivia Rodrigo's babydoll dress: for decades liberals pushed "choice feminism" and told people to stop attacking what women wear, yet now seem very concerned about what women wear. Olivia's dress is an issue for them because they associate it with pedophillia, which of course they link to Trump and Epstein (never mind the fact Olivia is a proud liberal herself who works with Planned Parenthood and pro-Palestine organizations). On an almost identical note, multiple liberal women have raised hysteria over big retail chains like Target and Nordstrom selling milkmaid dresses, calling it "tradwife coded" and saying it's indicative that women's civil rights will be taken away. Obviously, this is bullshit. How could something as petty as a milkmaid dress destroy the decades of feminist struggles in America? We also see this very clearly with the "clean girl" aesthetic being demonized as right-wing or "eugenics-coded" with the heavy makeup/blue eyeshadow look being championed for being (allegedly) progressive. For a leftist, all of these things are simply a case of consumer identity vs. consumer identity.

But that's not the point. The real issue in these contemporary examples is that snarky liberal white women fear the decline of their social and cultural status. Jill from Manhattan is mad that Fynnleigh the Mormon tradwife has more TikTok followers than her, even though what Fynnleigh does in her home in Utah has no effect whatsoever on Jill. Women's Post too long. Click here to view the full text.




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>>2825192
>Let me guess a larp "union" like the modern IWW?
>The average working class American is significantly more pro police than the average PMC New Leftist.
>most homeless are lumpen therefore I don't really care
>Daquan the fent dealer in Cleveland
Ghosts aren't allowed to post outside of /dead/


>>2825177
>They do. All the commie or commie adjascent people I lnow who have any interaction with unions push back against corporate policy and economism.
Let me guess a larp "union" like the modern IWW?
>Why is it not a strategically useful position?
I'm not sure how you could ever think it was? The average working class American is significantly more pro police than the average PMC New Leftist.


>>2825138
American (and Western more generally) immigration laws are such that you pretty much can't come here legally unless you're petty bourgeois or a member of the intelligentsia, or maybe a refugee or something. The petty bourgeoisie and PMCs are hugely overrepresented among immigrants from the third world. That Anon is right to identify a class dynamic at play here.


>>2824583
Lumpen clergyman
>>2824584
Father was a teacher, meaning PMC, meaning not proletarian


>>2819702
Hip hop is lumpen garbage promoted by the PMC.



>the USSR was capitalism, ackshually.

>smartest leftcom.

>makes sense

>smartest ultra chud

more news.

>Iran War Powers vote was about to pass, so House GOP cancelled the vote


>"Are we not voting on [the Iran War Powers Resolution] because the American people are sick and tired of this illegal war … you guys don't have the guts — or the balls — to vote on this!" (RepMcGovern)

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/21/us/iran-war-powers-trump-measure.html


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>>2818884
What a vapid video and waste of my time. TLDW: walmart built a ritzy company town in bumfuck arkansas so its PMC don't leave.


>>2817280
Most culture wars in America are simply PMC vs. small business owners.


>>2817177
>which most working-class people are
Kind of, not really. Most working class Americans are Joe Rogan centrists when it comes to social issues, myself included. The most consistent attitude I've encountered among working class people is "get it out of my face". As an example, I'm openly gay, but I've never got any pushback on it because I don't act like a fag or talk about it constantly. The real chuddy politics, the kind of shit h*zoids lean into, are in reality concentrated within the petite bourgeois and the small-business affiliated PMC.


>>2814385
A medieval HRE city and urban society was legally subject to the emperor, however not subject to feudal lords, kings etc. Like for example any urban bourgeois with financial means to do so could recruit a band of Landsknechts and start a proper war against some random rural feudal Junker or other aristocrat of whatever noble rank (not just in theory, such feuds actually took place and could prolong over a long time). What's more, serfs from the feudal countryside might run from their lords, move to a city and become free men if they managed to get a job (i.e. join the proletariat) and accomodation and the former lord could do nothing against it. The cities were ruled by councils which consisted of elected bourgeois guild bosses who would either inherit their position from their family or bought political influence with money. In medieval times the proletariat existed already inside the free cities as free wage workers, however proletarians were not allowed to take part in bourgeois elections, politics was strictly for rich people. This was called "Ständestaat" and it is what our current German rightoids mean when they say "we want to go back to the "good old times", fuck the modern world". As city population grew, manufacturing processes diversified, technology and automation developed and urban societies networked globally the bourgeois guild bosses and merchants became the modern capitalists, amassed more private property and financial wealth than aristocrats (resulting in aristocrats becoming dependent on the richest bourgeois oligarchs to obtain loans for their wars and purchases of the latest representative luxury items) while the situation of the proletariat gradually became worse and worse, which was particularly evident in the form of big slum districts in the cities (like, half of Hamburg used to be a slum of the worst kind) but also in the founding of the predecessors of the unions and first unions, secret worker's societies, in the founding of the first communist party and eventually violent worker's uprisings against the bourgeoisie. Why is this relevant? Well, because the author says that Germany was a monolithic feudal society with dominant feudal entities executing absolute political power well into the 20th century, which is simply wrong: The junkers, barons, dukes etc. and the clergy only ever ruled the countryside, their power Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


>>2814191
>>2814193
How many colonies in Africa does China have? How many millions of child slaves are toiling away to make treats for the Chinese pmc? How many countries has China invaded? How many genocides have they committed?


>>2813952
>these anti-Iran libertarian socialist/Trot neocons are 90% aligned with the Jeffrey Epstein class who also has nothing but contempt for this class of globalist goyim cattle who are sex trafficked as "mail order bride" slaves of the Epstein class, and for the PMC /r/Breadtubers who say "sex work is work".
put down the mein kampf pal, we're communists, not nazis in red coats


<31 matches for "zigger"
these anti-Iran libertarian socialist/Trot neocons are 90% aligned with the Jeffrey Epstein class who also has nothing but contempt for this class of globalist goyim cattle who are sex trafficked as "mail order bride" slaves of the Epstein class, and for the PMC /r/Breadtubers who say "sex work is work".
You soulless NAFO boy degenerates will never be part of the proletariat who actually has black friends

>>2812592
>you can't make a single argument without mentioning NATO, go touch some grass
<good little globalist is smugly proud of not knowing who now controls the grass in the fertile, world-historic farmlands in Ukraine that have been privatized by Larry Fink
https://www.oaklandinstitute.org/our-take/who-really-benefits-creation-land-market-ukraine
https://reliefweb.int/report/ukraine/war-and-theft-takeover-ukraines-agricultural-land

>>2813450
>talking points
well programmed NPC dialog about "Russian bots" from neoliberal Hillary Clinton blue MAGA ✅

>>2813574
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>>2813116
I've been souring on Chibber's takes recently. He keeps repeating that the left sucks, we should go back to the pre-war period and do more workerism, pmc bad, wholesome market socialism just works. I watched some Jacobin conference with Krystal Ball last week and half of the runtime was spent on talking about progressives in elections. The other half was spent looking into the camera and making Marvel jokes about how the left is pathetic.


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Citing from the study:
<A total of 93,642 individuals (3.9 %) had at least one violent conviction. The distribution of convictions was highly skewed; 24,342 persistent violent offenders (1.0 % of the total population) accounted for 63.2 % of all convictions. Persistence in violence was associated with male sex (OR 2.5), personality disorder (OR 2.3), violent crime conviction before age 19 (OR 2.0), drug-related offenses (OR 1.9), nonviolent criminality (OR 1.9), substance use disorder (OR 1.9), and major mental disorder (OR 1.3). […] The majority of violent crimes are perpetrated by a small number of persistent violent offenders, typically males, characterized by early onset of violent criminality, substance abuse, personality disorders, and nonviolent criminality.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/
So its not that 1% is responsible for ALL crime, but that repeat violent offenders make up around 63% of the prison population, whioe at least 4% of the public have one case of violent offense. So then, some people are petty criminals (~4%), while lifetime criminals are a completely destructive force and total minority (1%). As far as I know, this correlates with the number of sociopaths (4%) and psychopaths (1%).


Transgenderism is a sacred cow here, it seems. This, despite the fact that transgenderism itself is a liberal imperialist project floating up mainly due to the efforts of the PMC rather than any grassroots efforts, with trans rights itself being a bourgeois ideology itself. Funny that.


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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3969807/

How true is this and is there a conclusion leftists can draw from it? It would imply that most people are extremely docile and that a very small minority of people are mentally capable of serious criminal activity due to differences in nature and nurture. Several important questions:

>does this mean "evil" is not as widespread as we think and is instead concentrated in the hands of a minority of full time psychos?

>can this minority used for something useful like high risk revolutionary activity due to them being more comfortable with serious transgressions
>is this minority a type of übermensch that makes them psychologically stronger than the average normie?




>>2807167
>It's kind of funny how much of American culture war bullshit boils down to small business owners vs. PMC
That's American politics in a nutshell, since these are the actual mass bases of the Republican and Democratic parties. Generally speaking, both the big bourgeoisie and poor workers are less committed to the partisan divide because in both cases the outcome makes little difference to them. Both parties serve the ruling class and shit on workers, so porkies are equally benefitted while proles are equally harmed by both. It's only the middle-strata hangers on that have a real stake in the outcomes of elections.


>>2807142
>Hell, I see so many atheist leftists repeat the "JESUS WAS A SOCIALIST" mantra despite having zero stake in any Christian theology, simply because they believe doing so will win right-wring Christians over to socialism.
I think the point of that slogan is more to convert liberal or moderate Christians (who actually vastly outnumber fanatical rightoids) to socialism.
>I also see heavy, heavy romanticization of Appalachia and Appalachian culture to the point where comrades will say things like: "WE NEED TO TAKE BACK THE TERM 'REDNECK' AND MAKE IT RADICAL AGAIN!"
I think that's just a reaction to the extent to which idpol dominates the American left. Appalachia and the OG rednecks are an example of white people producing radical politics and resistance to capital. Drawing on those traditions is seen as a way to get white workers on board with a movement that very often appeals to race or other identity categories.
>cool story bro, Harlan County voted for Trump by over 80%
I don't think that really matters. People always cite voting for the GOP as proof of a population being hopelessly reactionary, but voting for the Democrats is hardly a radical act. Frankly some diehard Democrat voting bases (e.g. urban middle class PMCs) are just as hostile to socialism as the craziest MAGA. They made it pretty clear in 2016 that they'd rather have a Trump than a Bernie. The focus on regions like Appalachia or poor rural people in general simply have to do with the fact that these people are poor, and socialism is in line with their class interests.
>When I speak to comrades in Europe, Asia, or LatAm, they make it very clear there is no converting a fascist or a communist, or a TradCath to anarchist.
I think you're misunderstanding what people are trying to do here. They're simply trying to appeal to the class interests of a demographic that has been captured by the GOP by the culture war in spite of its class interests. I don't think there's much difference between this and say, getting Black people to stop voting Democrat and become socialists instead.


>>2807162
A good portion of the American working class is not white. In fact, at least half (actually probably over half) of my coworkers have been some variety of racial minority. Beyond that, a lot of the American working class also consists of young people trying to scrounge up enough time and money to get a degree in hopes of moving upwards into the PMC. I've known at least two people who were working three jobs in order to pay for college. The working class in real life does not look as it does on TV.

>>2807220
First, you're working to the dumbass logic that there is "an American working class". What defines the working class is its relationship to the means of production, not its allegiance to this or that clique. Our goal is to unite the various factions of the working class, not to pander to your preferred subset of it.

Second, leftists have, in large part, already turned on the democratic party, and did so well before the MAGA crowd did Trump. The fallout of the Gaza genocide resulted in a failure of the democrats to engage with their base that is generally agreed, even amongst pro-Israel bourgeois commentators, to have played a large part in the democrats losing the 2024 election.

Third, the class interests of the MAGA base are generally petite bourgeois and labor-aristocratic. Truckers and small farmers are not interested in communism, they're interested in democratic-socialism at best, fascism the rest of the time. Insofar as they are aware of Marxism, they flatly reject it, and experience shows that attempts to bring them further left has instead dragged whoever is preaching to them further right.

Finally, you're ignoring the much larger, much more politically useful group of people who aren't engaged in mainstream American politics to begin with. Most people, especially those in the working class, have more or less material interests; they want a bigger house, a faster car, more free time, a job that doesn't treat them like shit, etc. They might have some vaguely defined ideology, but it's a secondary factor in their life that they don't actually take all that seriously. These are the people you want to go for, not retarded MAGA cultists.


>>2807160
Yeah I mean the basis of Trump's support isn't coal miners or steel workers but small business owners. It's kind of funny how much of American culture war bullshit boils down to small business owners vs. PMC, with each side accusing the other side of being footsoldiers of the ruling class.


>>2805304
That's still an idiotic theory. The reason is your journos, NGOs and PMC are full of second wave feminists who hate men and see trans women as cheater trying to escape the gynopanopticon gayhell. It's not about da Normands or wathever ethic gripe you have with my LION 🦁 ancestors uygha, stop diffaming us.
>>2805309
I didnt know the cult of the Galles and Kybele made it this far north. Interesting.
It's funny because the early indo-european worshippers of Cybele were continental Celts freshly arrived in Anatolia and came into contact with goddess, she is likely a pre indo european deity. Long after the continental Celts were displaced/ourbred from the region the cult up travelling to the insular Celt of the British isles under Roman yoke.


The real reason veganism died out in leftist circles isn't because veganism became taken over by corporations, but because veganism became a SYMBOLIC CRUSADE, basically a tool by which educated liberal elites (the PMC, if you will) used to "prove" their superior morality to the working-class. Look at any discussion about veganism today (including the one ITT) and you'll see it has nothing to do with anti-capitalism or health or resources or even the climate, but MORALITY. Liberal elites love waving their beyond burgers and soy lattes in the faces of proles as a way of "proving" liberal elites are morally superior and thus deserve to rule over society (if only ideologically).


>>2804396
Isn't Anita herself an Epsteinite? Like her entire shtick is doing the mainstream media circuit and speaking tours, consultancy, etc? If she didn't have friends in high places she would've probably disappeared into the shadows since she really does not have much to do if she isn't getting consulting jobs and NYT articles. She does not like…produce anything beyond talking down at proles for having the wrong opinion on things while never criticizing the bourgeois. She is a perfect representation of the PMC consultant class that just serve to enforce the bourgeois' will onto the proles. I was never on board with the harassment towards her because it just fuels the partisan circus that keeps dummies obsessed and distracted from eating the rich. But she is complicit in it, no?


>>2803453
the difference is indie games have a specific audience in mind and aren't blaming chuds when they fail to reach that audience tbh.
an indie game can be whatever the fuck it wants, there are no expectations. a AAA game has to appeal to as broad an audience as possible to cover its production and marketing costs, and this often backfires as those audiences have totally different expectations and tastes.

This isn't a case of "wokeness ruining games" but "out of touch CEO's ruining games" and consumers implicitly identifying "woke" with "corporate PMC meddling in whatever product I enjoy", which 90% of the time it is. except in indie games, so no one minds them.


>>2801136
>Jews got us into this war
<Britain viewed Zionism and control of the Suez Canal as interconnected strategic interests, aiming to use a friendly Jewish presence in Palestine to secure the vital maritime route. This imperial policy culminated in the 1917 Balfour Declaration and, decades later, saw Britain conspire with Israel in 1956 to regain control of the nationalized Suez Canal during the Suez Crisis.
some things never change!
>Why is Iran the enemy?
<"Of course I will never defend the Iranian regime! We must open up the Strait of Hormuz so my DSA technocrat friends can use AI to become homeowners"
- Jewish Marxist podcasters on The Antifada which colonized the term for Palestinian resistance for their 'sex work is work' PMC Epstein anarcho neoliberalism in NYC


Not a fascist but I guess you can consider me a national communist with the belief in a stable democratic republic. A big flaw is that communist nations have a domestic issue confronting problems such ethnicity, like in the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia, having a national identity is necessary to properly adapt into a proper stateless classless society.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10481032/

Research backs that people prefer to be intertwined with their own ethnicity as well. This is only the ethnic barrier of every group, something that we as marxists especially if you’re from Europe is the necessity to fulfill ethnic barriers and work with anti Israeli identity movements, just have to debate the benefits of a classless society and revolutionary acquisition with them. The philosophical basis of historical material is crucial for mass appeal.


official petition for Mods to remove Jacobin from the header of the /USApol/ threads.

This Machine Kills podcast laughed at Jacobin taking a third-way neoliberal capitalism against merely pausing to consider whether to regulate AI data centers, compared to radically anti-tech oligarch argument from the New Yorker against the Jeffrey Epstein class grooming children in schools
<TMK pod #455. The Anti-Anti-Anti-Data-Centres Social Club
.
<"Democratic Governance of AI Is the Real Solution"
Jacobin: "democratic activism is dangerous to democracy, the real solution is Democracy™. Fighting late capitalist architecture isn't REAL socialism. You ignorant cattle must read our Effective Altruist magazines published by the PMC Jeffrey Epstein class, who we must support with our national socialist industrial policy to fight China, who doesn't care about your human rights or privacy like we Zionists do"
<"What Will It Take to Get A.I. Out of Schools?"
TMK pod liked this one New Yorker quote:
>“If you ask tobacco companies to help write your school’s policy on cigarettes,” Garrett quipped, “you’re going to end up with guidance on how to smoke responsibly in school.” (In an e-mail, a D.O.E. spokesperson said that more than a thousand “stakeholders,” including families and educators, were “engaged” in drafting New York’s preliminary guidance"
"stakeholders" finance jargon ✅

Jacobin used DEI wokeness about equity and the impoverished global south to argue for neoliberal deregulation with their Zionist psyop of Abundance anti-NIMBY movement. They fear of the "danger" of slowing down capitalist acceleration for even a single month, and love thought of destroying inefficient education markets, one of the last remaining public commons, to fully privatize society:
<"Without radical change to our pedagogy, we risk extracting rent for credentials"
"Public education are landlords, AI slop is benevolent and loving" - neoliberals helping the landlord rentier class gain complete hegemony over rents by taking up all the marketshare as Uber/etc have done
The PMC at Jacobin only mention class war to pretend only educated middle class who hate data centers (the activists who agitate against AI are ignorant crazy conspiracy thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


>>2796314
your logic just sounds like defeatism tbh. if the black panthers were able to mobilize the poor and homeless into a successful people's militia what's stopping you from doing the same?

>what exactly is it that keeps these people with such experience from being useful to presently existing communities?

the fact they are unhoused? it's pretty hard to keep a job if you don't have a phone number or a mailing address and it's even harder if you have substance abuse problems as most homeless people do.

>the only people with the actual means of meeting their needs are the owners of productive capital.

yeah obviously the bourgeois have an easier time exploiting the labor of others but the bourgeois already discarded these people. they don't have the option of working at walmart or mcdonalds, the only work they can find is unpaid "charity" work or illicit labor like working for gangs. this isn't just true for the homeless but also for people with any kind of mental or physical disabilities, many of them want to be useful but capitalism doesn't want to accommodate their needs so they're just stuck collecting disability.

to be honest I don't think working "within the system" is ever going to succeed, you need to be willing to mobilize these people for illegal tactics that can build you a large amount of resources quickly. hell literally just hire the homeless to work in a scam call center to steal money from boomers. it's more productive than just giving them charity. or organize them into shoplifting rings and use it to accumulate resources while simultaneously building networks of comrades within the prison system that can protect eachother and create mass support among those who have already fallen through the cracks of society. or utilize them for vigilantism to harass/assassinate porkies and force them to move out of the cities so their property can be reclaimed by local residents.

the fact leftists have all these options for organizing lumpens and proles and just resort to handing out sandwiches and booklets is just really a huge missed opportunity. or maybe it's intentional that organizing has been replaced by charity, just like CPUSA preaching suicidal-nonviolence while they tail the Democrats. the left has been hijacked by petit-bourgeois collegPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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>>2794578

kk, so the people in that memorial zine apparently founded Juche ideology. At first I thought they were just using real names and stories to add flavor to the story, you know? But then I actually looked into the ideology behind the guy in Jason's video. It says pretty clearly that he held Maoist, anarchist, and Juche ideas in what they call "productive tension." Which is, like, Juche Poster to a T.

I'm gonna post some screenshots for context, but honestly we shouldn't derail the thread. Also, nobody's said a single thing about the dream stuff yet. Kind of weird.



Mind control and dreams is something psychology has been looking at for decades.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7581699/


reactionary because he's a member of a PMC operating in angola, but could become revolutionary


>>2792484
"women" are not marginalized. But there are marginalized women.

PMC, bourgeois, petit-bourgeois white women that benefitted from colonialism as well are still fucking bourgeois they enjoyed all the fruits of patriarchy, of imperialism. They didn't have their stomachs ripped open and their unborn children crushed underfoot. Nobody is more protected than a whitoid female.


>>2792537
>West Bank settlers are inspiring these people
CPUSA: "you Maoists are crazy and absurd to call us settlers, actually the problem is FOREIGNERS who are ruining our nazi-inspiring nation that was founded by the OG Jeffrey Epstein class who fought a civil war about our right to rape slaves"
that's why the caning of Charles Sumner happened, he called them sexual degenerates:
<Mocking the South Carolina senator's stance as a man of chivalry, the Massachusetts senator charged him with taking "a mistress . . . who, though ugly to others, is always lovely to him; though polluted in the sight of the world, is chaste in his sight—I mean," added Sumner, "the harlot, Slavery."
I wonder why Jeffrey Epstein's fellow PMC class of high school teachers didn't educate you about that!hmm! Coincidentally I heard on The Drain podcast where our dear sweet comrade Palma joked about the California Teachers Association endorsing Eric Swalwell as their choice in governor, consistent pro-rape agenda from the goyscold class, stay woke………


>>2792531
It is Dharmic (Dhammic but Theravada is for PMC and Porkies), but not Praxis, unless it's being used to fuel a Mahayana Marxist Revolutionary group.


the solution to pmc virtue hoarding is unironic left-nietzscheanism. pmcs virtue-horde because they have internalized slave morality ressentiment making them feel bad for being in a position of economic privilege. it is no accident that idpol is sourced from refined parisian intellectualism while engels himself was a german so felt no moral qualms with using his position as a capitalist to further the worker's movement. there needs to be a transvaluation of morals evinced in the pmc and labor aristocracy if we are not to completely ignore them (an understandable gesture). obviously i am not suggesting they should adopt a "master morality", that is just silly. rather, they need a refined morality based upon a noble magnanimity in helping the working class. rather than be more "virtuous" by being more woke then impose such things on workers, they should have their energies directed into real change based upon the finances afforded them thanks to their class position


>>2774116
bluecheck bugman -> opinion discarded
>argue that the nuclear family structure is inherently abusive and tied to capital
Horror Vanguard podcast just did an episode on one of the most classic film about abusive family dynamics under capitalism, Wes Craven's The Hills Have Eyes (1977)
https://podtail.com/podcast/horror-vanguard/interlude-ii-the-hills-have-eyes-for-those-who-hav/
>biological parents are the least likely to sexually abuse
"We don't rape our farm animals, we merely extract value from trading them" its called animal husbandry for a reason

>>2774215
>create some kind of secular heaven
reactionary NPCs are like: "its impossible for us to imagine a world where men don't send emails to Jeffrey Epstein listing the ages of all of their children they are bringing to the "party", you are a crazy utopian cultist not a scientific materialist like my New Atheist PMC pedo debate partners"


>>2746538
>He’s even thrown his own wife under the bus for working with Palestinian liberation activist Susan Abdulhawa
<"Palestinians are neo-nazis, look at these screenshots of twitter posts"
Leftist "callout/cancel culture" has deputized them all as cops who are happy to help Zionist surveillance accomplish their psyops for free to smear the critics of Israel. Actually the DSA gets paid: they gain social capital for their branding as heroic 'anti-fascists' who bravely fight antisemitic tropes
Actual nazis are defined by their material behavior of denying food/water and healthcare. Idealists call Palestinians are nazis for their merely class conscious tweets about being 'goyim'. I imagine DSA radlibs in the 1960s also called The Black Panthers 'nazis' for daring to call themselves n*ggers, "how dare you use the word that your oppressors call you!!! This is an anti-white trope! You will never be invited to our settler anti-Stalinist forum where we have mild disagreements with our fellow PMC Jeffery Epstein libertarian guys about whether 'sex work is work' is woke or not"
>Fully divest NYC from the Zionist entity
As the Mayor, his main job is to secure funding for civic projects, but I imagine Zionist alligned finance capitalists have a lot of power with their choices in investing in the Zohran era municipal bond market. Whoever controls bond markets controls your city, try thinking dialectically about the material base of capitalism the next time some radlib talks about "electoralism is good/bad" or "this politician is good/bad"
<Mamdani's administration is facing significant challenges in the municipal bond market. This has resulted in decreased investor confidence and difficulties in selling city debt, which are critical for funding city projects and services.
<Mamdani's proposed fiscal policies, which include extensive spending plans, have raised concerns among investors about the city's financial health.
<There is a notable shift in investor sentiment, with many expressing distrust in the city's ability to manage its debt effectively under Mamdani's leadership.
<Recently, New York CiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


>>2752828
>AI industry
Not an industry! In fact computer chips used for AI are a waste of manufacturing capacity. Like your body using all its energy to produce cancer tumors instead of normal human cells
>opening the window for a socialist revolution
Marxists who seethe at the thought of Iranian state socialism: "I love to use AI for my PMC job so I can become a homeowner" "me too I also use AI to become a homeowner"
>championing revolutionary defeatism
You are championing the Jeffrey Epstein class of finance rapists like Hegseth using AI to murder schools full of Iranian girls


>>2696821
The EU emerged from a post-WWI House of Habsburg project with the goal of establishing something like the USA in Europe and retain some power projection cababilities for themselves in areas they used to rule for a long time. For that reason they (and Soros) were main players behind the 1989 color revolution also. The French bourgeoisie wanted a single Euro currency for some reason (it was their prerequisite for approving the German "reunification") and the German bourgeoisie does indeed utilize the EU's "free movement of labour" to exploit Eastern European cheap labour. However, neither French nor German bourgeois and aristocrats need the EU for anything. Both FR and DE are the biggest net contributors in terms of budget while EU law actually puts big countries at a disadvantage within the EU's decision making body, while net receivers like Poland and small nations enjoy more voting power relative to size. Getting rid of the DM came with neglible benefits for German porky and higher cost of living for the working class plus a shitload of problems for the economy, including the problems of € economies who formerly preferred "weak" national currencies. Eastern Europeans and others migrate here since the 19th century when Europe was still multipolar and Euro porkies and aristocrats indulged in inter-imperialist war all the time.
Today France, Germany and Italy would objectively be better off without the fucking EU in any case, that's why we have widespread anti EU sentiment here on the far-left and far-right.
So, what is the EU now? It's mainly a vehicle for the interests and imperialist agenda of the House of Rothschild (British, French, Swiss, Israeli etc.) and similar haute bourgeois and aristocrat oligarch clans and capitalists of all sorts who can circumvent national law and fuck with worker's rights and implement a draconic fascist censorship regime via EU law if need be. It's also a way for corrupt neolib PMCs from all over Europe to make a career as EUrocrats in national governments by serving oligarchs and funnel gibs from the EU budget into private black holes. Or to become a strong NAFOid nation like Poland, amassing more tanks than DE and FR combined for defending freedom. Western EU bourgeoisie adores Eastern Europe, by the way. Because Eastern Europe, including EU members such as Poland as well as membership candidates, tenPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


>>2398307
>>the left
>look inside it’s far right neoliberals
every American settler socialist movement over the last 15 years: "Google Bookchin, we must SMASH THE AUTHORITARIAN STATE for its racist regulations of consumer freedom for individuals"
People after googling Bookchin: "so wait, anarchists have 'no quarrel' with neoliberals who support selling children in the free market?"

lol PMC socialist literally dream of having woke versions of Jeffrey Epstein pagan temple islands, where sex workers are "liberated" from Stalinist oppression to cross borders to be servants of the class of redditors. Really makes you think about what Ukraine's "revolution of dignity" in 2014 was really about!