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"turns out conservatives and reactionaries are just dumb after all" edition.

news:
- Your Party is suing itself, more at 11.
- The SNP and Plaid are going to form a "progressive alliance" somehow
- The government's going to do a switcheroo by raising income tax slightly and cutting national insurance to balance it out. (But they won't - follow this to its logical conclusion and scrap NI entirely)
- They're also considering cutting VAT on energy bills (which is the least efficient way of lowering bills you can imagine)
- The board of deputies asked Aston Villa for free footy tickets. In a worrying sign of rising antisemitism, Aston said nah.
- Labour is falling behind the Greens in the opinion polls as their strategy of copying Reform drives away their already-begrudging supporters without winning over any Reform voting reprobates. Nobody could have predicted this.
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>>2564755
It's so bleak
I wish I were American. I want to be in a west coast gay furry polycule. I'd settle for living in one of the really shitty states even, Britain is too grimly depressing to even aestheticise, its cultural norms depressing and revealing in depression and repression. I want to be an obnoxious outgoing American with questionable taste and impeccable honesty. Instead I'm just a cunt.
The only escape is the internet and naturally they're blocking everything here.
Ok in summer bits of it are nice, but it's not summer is it

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>>2564340
is it politically advantageous to mothin ali or adnan hussain to simply say "being LGBT is a sin - and ideally, it should be illegal"? no. its what muslims and christians believe, but dont openly say (despite homosexuality being illegal in this country not long ago, relatively speaking). a war hero and scientific genius like alan turing was forced to suicide by the british state, yet now we posture progress as a weapon against the third world, for example. i see reactionaries call muslims "medieval" yet they believe the same things. this is why you at least get honest reactionaries like nick fuentes in the US who says that the taliban is based; "white sharia", etc. its about race, not religion.

hi i am a centrist am i allowed to use this website? i don't know much about politics sorry

>shabana mahmood on broken asylum system: "im the one called a fucking paki and told to go back home"
kemi badenoch has also said that her and shabana should work together in bipartisan effort to fix system

>>2564975
as long as youre not a troll, its completely fine


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>Europoor

It's becoming increasingly clear that the majority of proles in Europe and North America are being brainwashed by their phones into believing immigration is the biggest issue in their countries. I have largely ignored this issue, as I don't really think it matters but then, last night, there was a lumpen riot in Dublin against an IPAS centre in which a foreign national who had been denied asylum and was told to "self-deport" had apparantly raped a 10 year old girl who was under state care. I usually don't believe a lot of the lies told about "migrants" online but this case makes me feel particularly uncomfortable.

It was a clear failure from the neoliberal Irish government and it's institutions that allowed something like this to happen. Why wasn't this man deported immediately after being denied asylum? Too expensive, apparently. Why was this man allowed to be in a situation where he could sexually abuse a child? Why is this man in my country in the first place? Ofc, the Free State institutions are keeping silent on it, pissing off people even more.

So, how do leftists feel about immigration and the current asylum process? Obviously, I understand this wouldn't be an issue if western corps weren't raping the third world but I also think there is a discussion to be had. Are open borders in the current world really working? Would they work post-capitalism? How do you feel about immigration, positively or negatively?
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>I'm imagining a compromise position is something like putting all immigrants on a 5 year work visa with ZERO pathway to citizenship no matter what and have ALL immigrants be on this visa but with high worker protections (fruit pickers must be given access to camp sites where they can sleep in a tent for free instead of the current income rape situation where they're forced by the farmer to rent from someone the farmer knows to have the pickers income drained back into the farmers pockets for example)
>>2564904
the crueltry towards these people is part of the point from the electorate.

Honestly, I don't support mass immigration, seems a recipe to disaster and social chaos, we should always support other countries development so that we can avoid mass immigration, taking the best and the brightest and most hard working folks from other countries so they can futher capitalism is such a bad idea

>>2564915
>taking the best and the brightest and most hard working folks from other countries so they can futher capitalism is such a bad idea
These immigrants do less crime than locals and help the economy. Multiculturalism should be introduced slowly so rightoids dont chimp out.

>>2564949
You're taking a essential human capital that would help their home country to develop, instead they to another country to work for some company, mass immigration is a mistake

>>2564952
>human capital that would help their home country to develop,
Skilled workers rarely disappear from their home country. Many keep going back and forth, stay involved with universities or workplaces at home, or eventually return with far more skills, connections, and capital than they would gain by staying.

Also the cash sent back to home countries is significant and usually more than foreign aid combined.

>mass immigration is a mistake
Agreed. Immigration should be done carefully with vetting for entry and then citizenship.


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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
<Ronald McDonald Trump Edition

🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.
<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
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>>2564954
>allowed to negotiate
insurance porky loves this because it results in class segregation in insurance. the bourgeoisie all pool their money with each other in their superior insurance plans, the petty bourgeoisie all pool their money with each other in their middling insurance plans, and the working class all pool their money with each other in the inferior insurance plans. With a single payer system, the opulent minority would subsidize the health care of the poor majority because the rich and the poor would be pooling their money together in a single national system. But with the "free market" and "fair competition" in health insurance, you have everyone negotiating to pay into much smaller pools of money which is drawn from to pay for incidents. Also these pools of money will be larger for a small group of rich people than for a large group of poor people.

>>2564939
Check this guy's hard drive right now!

>>2564963
>insurance porky loves this
yes single payer is nightmare for Porky but what they really want is for nothing to change at all. the current scheme benefits them the most

>SPX starting to take a nosedive
>BTC bag holders on suicide watch
</crisis/ is nowhere to be found
WHERE MY COLLAPSE BROS AT, I PROMISE YOU ITS REAL THIS TIME I hope but probably not as hordes of retail investors are going to buy the dip

>>2564962
yeah that's true but you gotta consider context.

22 = drinking age, maybe already graduated college, maybe already has a bachelor's degree, maybe already did tours of duty in the military.

16 = still lives with parents, still in high school, can't drink, can't serve in the military, can't vote, probably drives their parent's car if they drive at all.

You've gotta consider what it looks like to most people when a guy who's 22 and can't make it with his age peers will go after someone who still lives with their parents in the hopes of convincing them to be a domestic partner before they're even a legal adult, locking them into potentially a bunch of shit they're not ready for mentally.

Now historically, yes it was "normal" for things to be like this but people challenged that being the norm for a reason.

Please do not extrapolate anything from this post that wasn't explicitly stated.


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Historically speaking how were judeochristian westoids so successful at divide and conquer to the point they managed to literally invent meme ethnicities to serve as compradors and fifth columnists in the places they wanted to colonize?
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>judeochristian
You're not subtle. Back to your containment site /pol/faggot.

>>2564953
>Muh essentialism is tru do cuz I said so
Actual retard lmao

>>2564943
>>2564961
>things don't have essence, bro, all is flux according to my necessary understating of the world

Ok, idiot

>>2564882
I was under the impression that Mohammed had special priviliges for Jews written in Quran?

>>2564969
>Restating the same thing as if that will make you less retarded
Poor pea brained idealist


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>>2549046
>so then, the greater supply of gold, the less its value in relation to silver, despite the greatness of gold. thus as aristotle says, it is its scarcity which grants its value, or relative price, in relation to all other commodities.

scarcity simply implies a greater amount of socially necessary labor time to procure a useful quantity of something

>>2547894
I saved your links on my blogspot, anon. Thank you!
https://cadaverminimal.blogspot.com/2025/11/nota-de-pesquisa-ndp-politica-economica.html?m=1

>>2562826
the value of gold in relation to silver is purely a function of their relative scarcity to one another. this exchange ratio is commented on as early as the 4th century B.C. by xenophon. as aristotle also says, the labour entailed in mining gold is the effect, not the cause, of its value. its value is determined by its scarcity, as a natural quality. similarly, ricardo and marx comment that a commodity only has value in exchange if it has a value in use, and that without this, labour has no recognition:
<Lastly nothing can have value, without being an object of utility. If the thing is useless, so is the labour contained in it; the labour does not count as labour, and therefore creates no value.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm
this relates to jevons' causation of production costs:
(i) Cost of production determines supply.
(ii) Supply determines final degree of utility.
(iii) Final degree of utility determines value.
https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/jevons-the-theory-of-political-economy

>>2563933
>(i) Cost of production determines supply.
>(ii) Supply determines final degree of utility.
>(iii) Final degree of utility determines value.

doesn't supply determine cost of production? doesn't it cost more to produce gold from a mine if it is in low supply? you have to find it before you can extract it, and needing to spend more time to find it increases its cost of production.

>>2564846
"supply" refers to what is brought to market, not what is produced per se.


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So I hadn't seen a thread about this yet. What are we thinking in regards to the latest anime flag protests happening in Mexico against the Sheinbaum government? Organic mass uprising? Part of a global wave of revolutionary struggle? CIA sponsored destabilization efforts against US rivals/enemies? Full on color revolution? You decide!
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>>2564858
>we see the fucking US government directly tweeting about it.
where?

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>>2564640
peak cartoon

>>2564852
i dont know the situation about Peru, but just because a government is pro-west doesn't mean it gets off scott free.
agencies can stir up protests as a means to apply pressure. so if the pro-west government of peru decides all of a sudden they want to hedge their bets, and get a cheaper Chinese railway instead of a US one, then they can whip up already existing discontent.

>>2564640
>>2564669
Is this the cartoon with a smoking goat that the chimney goat phrase comes from? Or is that another dprk cartoon?

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>>2563818
About Mexico, this ammount to the ye olden phrase "when you go to a rally where nazis are welcomed, you are in a nazi rally"
>>2564950
About Peru, shit is reaaally bad. The lumpen is going wild on the pettybourg and the workers underneath. This creates social tension (the reputation of the police is on the ground, too many scandals and lumpen running wild).
Now, under Boluarte there were some warnings by the amerikkkan officials about the "chinese threat". But there is no "amerikkkan train" counterpart lmao. And Boluarte already gave them a Space Port near Ecuador


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Money is very funny in a Banderite world edition.

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
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>>2564801
all the neutral countries were involved in NATO's Operation Gladio. even Switzerland had a stay behind network. Neutralitry was a fig leaf.

>>2564409
Poland claims the perpetrators were Ukrainians, acting on behalf of Russia, using American C4 explosives, now having fled to Belarus. And people say Russia are chuds and don’t do diversity.

Another claim is that the perps apparently left a smartphone attached to a power bank at the scene, recording the railway..

>>2564872
West also did an arms embargo on Spin but continued to arm the fascists, meaning in practice they were actively strangling the revolution.

Are russiofaggots going to help Venezuela, or no?

>>2564958
Are yankoids going to do anything to prevent their government from attacking Venezuela? Surely it’s more their responsibility than anyone else.

Like come on Americans, Trump is trying to take away your treats!


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one of the biggest things they teach in bourgeois economics is that "actually 100% employment is BAD! because it means people can't quit their jobs if they want to and the supply of labor in the labor market will be too low!" I see it dropped casually like it's just a matter-of-fact by people, especially "influencers" who aren't even bourgeois or economists because it's repeated so often. I hate this myth so fucking much for so many reasons, but it's obviously functioning as an ideological justification for the reserve army of labor whether the people repeating it realize that or not (they usually don't even know what the reserve army of labor is). People quit their jobs because their wages are too low, instead of getting organized, because getting organized is harder than quitting and begging another porky for a job. Then when they're begging porky for another job, which can take literally months, they are getting application after application rejected for no good reason, and finally they get desperate and accept a job that is as bad or even worse than their previous job. Most people desire stable employment and a living wage and only quit their job because their wage is shit. So saying or implying that having an unemployment rate of 5-10% is "good" because "people can quit their jobs due to high mobility in the labor market!" functions to justify this state of affairs.

Porky has always opposed 100% unemployment. Pic and vid related.
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>>2563801
Dude, you announce you changing jobs two weeks in advance. Solution's really simple

>>2564849
>I suffer when I work therefore I am proletarian
The biggest tell is "service workers" apologia; even as unproductive labor breaks the back of American economy, you still gospel about your "post-industrial society" nonsense. FLASH NEWS, post-industrial society NEVER existed, Westoid retards had only managed to leech off the rest of the world by usurping certain high value job sectors (+ service for them), and when the rest of the world caught up (including in service because internet lets you hire Indians instead of Americans), were forced into an unsolveable crisis

It's not fucking fee-fees, it's a scientific definition. USA has two trillions in budget deficits precisely because producer-to-consumer ratio is horrible and unsustainable - and Marx separates productive and unproductive labor, beucase it's FUCKING IMPORTANT

To call bad things happening a crisis is an ultimate vulgarization of Scientific Socialist Thought. That is not what crisis means except but to radlibs. I see lots of imperialists and comprador american-lovers who say, "americans live under crisis." Because their moribund global imperialist system isnt perfect because their healthcare isn't free. Crisis is not when healthcare is expensive. Crisis is not when pandemic. Capitalist economic crises are crises of overproduction. Capitalism is but protracted crisis of varying degree. Capitalist crises are crises of overproduction. Crisis in the era of imperialism is when so much food flows into imperialist bellies that they all become obese. Acute capitalist crisis is, according to Scientific Socialist Thought, when commodity takes longer to be stomached by amerikan than to produce. This culminates into an immperialist mentality where imperialism is to be protracted witb UBI and defended where the livelihood of imperialists is above all

>>2564926
>Crisis is not when healthcare is expensive. Crisis is not when pandemic. Capitalist economic crises are crises of overproduction.

Capitalist crisis destroys level of life, it's not JUST crisis of overproduction. In case of USA, crisis manifests as US goods and services as not being market competitive, i.e. American population was deemed excessive by the Hand of the Free Market

>>2564877
>greentext nobody said
two can play at that game:
>angry screed that blames service workers because porky outsourced the commodity production jobs
>these fricking nurses wiping old people's asses in nursing homes are LEECHES because they aren't doing the real commodity production of assembling child killing missiles in a factory


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