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>>2928618
have you checked the /ISG/ reading list?



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<WW3 time

>previous bake

>>2917350

Latest News
>Israel planning invasion of jordan, probably so bibi can delay elections
<The PLC in yemen is advancing against the houthis
>USA has withdrawn from Iraq
<Houthichads are defending
>Oil is at $92.3
>flood

>Important Links:

https://www.flightradar24.com/
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>>2929666
I mean he isn't wrong, south Yemen failed to industrialize and by the time the USSR collapsed the state dropped most references to socialism. The USSR is in part to blame for this.

>Recently, when covering an investment dispute between a border-area kibbutz in Israel and a Chinese investment fund, some media outlets claimed that “China prohibits investment in Israel.”
>The Embassy of China in Israel has issued a clarification on this matter through Channel 12.

>After the outbreak of the Gaza conflict on October 7, 2023, China adjusted the travel risk level for areas within Israel in line with international practices. As the situation has eased, areas classified as extremely high risk (red) have been significantly reduced and are now limited to small areas around the north border and along the Gaza Stripe border.


>Strictly limiting personnel movements and economic activities in extremely high-risk areas is an international practice.

>Restrictions on economic activities in small, extremely high-risk areas should not be confused with the normal economic and trade exchanges between China and most areas in Israel.

>China encourages Israeli friends to engage with us in various forms of economic and trade cooperation, and hopes that all sectors will actively safeguard China-Israel relations and play an active role in advancing bilateral friendship and practical cooperation.


It's all business as usuaul. https://il.china-embassy.gov.cn/eng/sgxw/202602/t20260213_11857983.htm

>>2930283
socialism in one apartheid

>>2930076
Anyone who couldve tried a coup was purged decades ago.

>>2930283
imagine being a dengoy and having to pretend this is real communism, must be bleak, almost like having to pretend zohran isnt zionist



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

>Thread for the country which raids the world and doesn't even bother to redistribute the treats to the herrenvolk


<Langley Datacenters Edition


OP Backup Site: https://usapol.neocities.org/
💀 ICE & Prison Resources

(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)

ICE tracker using public info and user submissions // https://www.iceinmyarea.org/
list of deaths at ICE concentration camps // https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers
visualization of prison population in US // https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/
Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in (RANT Collective) // https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf
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>>2930275
this anon is right: >>2930269
it's more likely that samsung's republic of korea and lobotomized anime's republic of japan do that because of China, for the same reason europe enforced social democracy up to some point when the USSR was alive, then europe started to revert all of that.
>>2930280
>it's cheaper
>planes
>than
>TRAINs
nonsensical. trains are by far cheaper than planes. even in Russia. always. it's only the time factor that makes planes attractive. and because time was factored in, the industry pushed for more plane production, which reduced the cost. but if I take $100 million in investment split 50/50 between the train and plane industries, I get a cheaper production return from the train industry than I would from the plane industry. And China is closing that gap with high-speed rail, which is close to a plane price within the same distance. And in China people chose trains over planes so often, even airlines have been dropping the prices to stay relevant.

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>>2930293
Why is it so hard to understand that higher density metro areas are the ones that are going to benefit most from public transit? Even then, the public transit can't magically just go faster. It really only works if you are traveling shorter distances.

>The average one-way commute distance for home-based work trips by car, van, SUV, or pickup truck in the U.S. is 14.4 miles (with a median of 8.9 miles), according to the National Household Travel Survey

>One-Way Travel Time: Mean travel time to work is 27.2 minutes (U.S. Census Bureau American Community Survey).

>In the dense urban hub of Tokyo, the average one-way commute distance is 16.94 kilometers, which converts to roughly 10.53 miles

>Tokyo average one way commute: 42.39 min

>The National Time Standard: Nationally, the Statistics Bureau of Japan reports an average one-way commute time of 39.5 minutes

>Regional Variances: In rural cities with populations under 300,000, the round-trip average drops to 1 hour and 9 minutes (approx. 34.5 minutes each way) where cars are much more common. In contrast, the Greater Tokyo area features the longest commutes, averaging 58 minutes one way.

I'd like to see the public transit shills actually do some numbers based comparisons and address the reality of time and convenience and all that.

Public transit:
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>>2930293
I feel like this whole conversation is getting confused between local public transit and long distance rail.
>>2930241
>great public infrastructure and public transport?
Japanese rail is mostly privatized.

>If you look strictly at the 7 core operating companies that split from the state-owned national monopoly:

>57% Private (4 out of 7): JR East, JR Central, JR West, and JR Kyushu are 100% fully privatized and publicly traded on the stock exchange
>43% Public (3 out of 7): JR Hokkaido, JR Shikoku, and JR Freight remain 100% state-owned. Their shares are entirely held by a government public agency called the Japan Railway Construction, Transport, and Technology Agency (JRTT).
<~70% JR Group Infrastructure: Around 70% of the physical rail network in Japan belongs to the JR Group. Since that network is split between the private and public JR companies mentioned above, the bulk of Japan's major intercity tracks and Shinkansen (bullet train) infrastructure is privately managed
<~30% Independent Private & Municipal Operators: The remaining 30% of the rail network is operated by dozens of completely independent private companies (like Tokyo Metro, Kintetsu, and Hankyu) and local municipal governments

So that's like 70% privatized.

Dealing with gravity is expensive

Capitalism has twisted human evaluation of material costs



 

>republicans stop the coup in 1936 and force the nationalists to struggle for 3 years to achieve a victory
>numerous republicans refuse to surrender and continue a guerilla war that lasts up to the 1950s, even attempting to invade Spain with a large force from France at the end of ww2
>before the last maquisards have even left the mountains, a new generation of radicals emerge from university campuses in late 1950s that havent even fought in the civil war and start clashing with police frequently, along with miners holding strikes
>late 1960s those same students start creating different anarchist and communist groups who carry out bombings, bank roberries and kill police officers
>ETA emerges spontaniously and carries out literally thousands of attacks (im not even joking look it up)
>groups in exile do the same thing attacking embassies and a yacht gets sucesfully hijacked and extorted for freedom for political prisoners
>riots, bombings and general violence force the state to imprison and execute people, causing the international community to shun Spain and pull out embassies and investments
>ETA kills Blanco and leaves Franco without a heir
>even the fucking catholic church turns their back on Franco
>Franco ACK!-s and overnight all the former republican parties and movements reconstitute politically and lead Spain to democracy
This all happened even though Spain was literally Fascist the whole time and liberally used arrests,executions, torture, and states of eception. Hell they even did human experiments trying to find a way to genetically prevent people from becoming leftists. How did other "Authoritarian" governments, whether Left or Right in Europe at the time manage to root out militant opposition within years of taking power and the Spanish resistance continue from the first to last day of the dictatoeship, even though they were ultimatelly not a major threat to the government, it is impressive to me how consistently radical it remained for the duration of the regime.
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>>2930201
Isn't it curious that the fall of 'fascism' in Spain and Portugal coincided with the profitability crisis of the 1970s which made corporatist industrial policy obsolete in most of Europe?

>>2930201
>>2930290
Also after the victory of anti-colonial struggle most places elsewhere: mattered more in Portugal than Spain but a fascist regime can't just give up its empire.

Also there was a military conspiracy similar to the one in Portugal where leftists officers formed a group of several hundred men that wanted to do the same thing as in Portugal but they were discovered and arrested. So even the army and catholic church that literally brought Franco to power and were his biggest allies were turning on him near the end of the regime lmao

test

>Hell they even did human experiments trying to find a way to genetically prevent people from becoming leftists
Did they found the cure? We could reverse engineer it to make evryone leftist with it.



 

Is it worth it to understand how the right-wing thinks?

I get that we aren’t supposed to debate fascists, we’re supposed to shoot them. Yet there’s always that curiosity concerning how and why right-wingers believe what they believe. I know the standard answer is that they’re all a bunch of straight rich white men looking to preserve their institutional power, but there has to be more to it than that. Not all super-rich white guys are overt reactionaries, and there’s a lot of working-class people who are reactionaries. Shouldn’t it make sense, then, to read what they’re actually saying so we can better understand them and their formula?
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>>2930219
The Zio in the video >>2930073
is talking about Plato's Laws, not The Republic. A totally different dialogue.

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studying reactionary thought can be interesting, because it gives you a deeper understanding of how incoherent it is

>>2930209
>catharsis seeking
Looks like babby learned a new word.
Catharsis against the bourgeoisie is a good thing, retard.

>>2930294
>catharsis against bourgeoisie
>catholics against bogourodice

Low empathy and critical thinking, that's it



 

>1991 referendum
>literally ALL the republics voted to maintain the USSR
>yet they ignored the masses
>the final decision was made by the ruling elite
Sadly nothing prevents any AES from having a Gorbachev pulling the strings from within, and the people have no democratic mechanisms to stop this.
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There surely exists a better timeline in which there is no "August Coup". Because the CPSU manages to launch the nukes, instead. And rightfully plunges this traitorous world into the cold darkness it deserves.

Billions should have died.

>capitalist country stops pretending to be communist
>this is somehow a bad thing

>>2930213
communism is when you kill people

>>2930236
>"gob gob gob gob this lasagna is so yummy i love sittin in this chair and eating my lasagna gob gob gob i love shitting on every attempt at socialism without ever presenting a clearly defined alternative, the only version of socialism that is allowed to exist is my vague idealistic set of concepts that i wont really provide a theoretical framework for, but i'll still shit on you for the minor contradictions of your movement"

>>2929995
It was inevitable because they were capitalists from the start. Lenin is rotting in hell for creating the USSR and setting workers back thousands of years.



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the future of politics isnt left vs right, but bio conservative vs post humanism. This is especially going to play out if AI and tech dont turn out to be duds.

You can already see the seeds of these movements blossoming between people who are anti AI, pro human, and people who are pro tech and accelerationist slap fighting on various social media
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>>2930000
Posts exactly like this have been made every week since the 8chan days though

>>2928679
I'm pro-tech but I think we need to organize and arm the robots

>>2929623
>based, nobody who hates furries has good politics/is a good person in general
This. April Furs Day was the date the 4chan would go down the inevitable road of becoming a Nazi hell-site.

>>2929623
>nobody who hates furries has good politics/is a good person in general

>>2928819
On the other hand, our normative ideas of humanity, of what it means to be human, often exclude actual people from that category in practice. We reject tangible flesh and blood in favor of idealizations.



 

Alter Faden: >>2839919

Links:

Klassikertexte:
https://mlwerke.redflag.ps/

Papyrossa-Verlag:
https://www.papyrossa.de/

Marxistische Blätter (Theoriemagazin der DKP):
https://www.marxistische-blaetter.de/

Junge Welt:
https://www.jungewelt.de/
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>>2930013
mittlerweile muss man als user aus deutschland unbedingt eine email adresse angeben, wenn man auf 4chan was posten will. allein für diese verifizierung muss man locker 10 captchas lösen. und dann noch captchas für jeden einzelnen post. es ist die reinste captcha hölle. vpns funktionieren nicht und alles außer chrome wird bestraft.

es wundert mich echt, wie offen es hier hingegen noch ist.

>>2930015
das beste ist, dass manche captchas unlösbar sind! das soll vorallem passieren, wenn man einen alternativen browser nutzt.

vorallem als phoneposter ist es so einfach, den ban auf leftypol zu umgehen. es gibt 100000 vpn anbieter im playstore und bei den meisten braucht man nicht mal eine anmeldung.

und wenn es mal doch nicht klappt, einfach browser wechseln.

es gibt keinen grund sich hier an irgendwelche regeln zu halten, weil die regeln bedeutungslos sind.

Gibt es hier Anarchisten?

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NARKOKRATIE.

Das kommt. Und zwar schneller und totaler, als die meisten wahrhaben wollen.

Die klassische Konsumgesellschaft ist bereits im Sterben. Materielle Güter, Reisen, Statussymbole, Eigentum – das alles war immer nur ein umständlicher, ineffizienter Umweg, um am Ende genau das zu erzeugen, was Drogen und Neurotechnologie direkt liefern: intensives Erleben, Belohnung, Bedeutung, Glück, Kontrolle über den eigenen Bewusstseinszustand. Sobald die Technik gut genug ist, fällt der Umweg weg.

Wir stehen am Anfang einer neurochemischen und neurotechnologischen Revolution. In den nächsten 15–25 Jahren werden präzise, maßgeschneiderte Bewusstseinsmodulationen (pharmakologisch + BCI + geschlossene Feedback-Schleifen) so mächtig, so billig und so zuverlässig, dass der alte Konsum einfach obsolet wird. Warum noch ein Flug nach Bali buchen, ein Auto kaufen oder ein teures Apartment unterhalten, wenn man denselben oder einen weit intensiveren Zustand in Sekunden und für einen Bruchteil der Kosten direkt im Gehirn erzeugen kann – und das ohne Jetlag, ohne Schulden, ohne ökologischen Fußabdruck?

Die Gesellschaft wird sich nicht „langsam anpassen“. Sie wird umkippen. Sobald eine kritische Masse den direkten neurochemischen Kick dem indirekten materiellen Ersatz vorzieht, kollabiert die alte Nachfrage. Die Wirtschaft folgt dem Begehren, nicht umgekehrt. Was übrig bleibt, ist eine Narkokratie im besten Sinne: eine Gesellschaft, deren zentraler Produktions- und Konsumptionsmodus die gezielte Gestaltung innerer Zustände ist. Alles andere wird Nische, Dekoration oder reines Statusspiel für Nostalgiker.

Das ist keine Dystopie. Das ist die konsequente Fortsetzung dessen, was Konsum schon immer war: die Jagd nach intensiverem Erleben. Wir haben nur endlich die Abkürzung gefunden. Und sobald sie da ist, gibt es kein Zurück.



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