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Hello, /leftypol/!
Welcome to the Reading General Sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

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>>2560148
https://libgen.la/edition.php?id=149903887


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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Do you support regime change in Venezuela? Edition

🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.
<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
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>>2574062
You can always smell the 19 year old incel wafting off posts like this

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>>2574005
>children are overencouraged in the US
Aahhaahahah oh boy this is not as true as he thinks. Psychological abuse and overcontrolling parenting are rampant here

>>2574268
totally sane and not-demented

honkoid status?


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28 point piss plan edition.

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
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Ushakov and Dmitriev having their private convos leaked is like Wait For Trump but unironically. Mofos sitting around on fucking WhatsApp with their pindo fetish lmfao.

>>2574255
>Why escalate if Russia is still winning, damage is nominal and escalation would just bring a nuclear exchange closer.
Yes, this is precisely the logic Putin would use if NATO started firing missiles from Poland and the Baltics. It doesn't affect the ground realities in the Donbass.

>>2574248
zelensky driving this to the peace table

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>>2574258
If nato started doing that then they would do it to actually make a difference, not just to tease out a response, since no matter the scale of the strikes they could no longer pretend even to themselves that any Russian response would be Russian aggression towards them. it would go towards strikes and nuclear war from there.


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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!™
ɢʀᴀʙ ᴀ ᴘᴀɪʀ ᴏꜰ sᴘᴇᴄᴛᴀᴄʟᴇs

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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>>2574183
Yes.

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>>2574185
It's because Indians are leading the Anglo world into communism. It's the same reason Hitler hated the Jews.

>>2573342
sad
but the maga/america first/conservatives bot farm accounts being gritters from India to Israel is funny still

>>2573319
both gay

>>2573349
this

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>>2574165
Leftistsliberals are quick to criticize fire and brimstone OT Christian zealots and the bible, but they don't want to acknowledge it's the same exact book the Jews believe in. That's what all the Jewish holidays are about is celebrating all their fucked up stories from the OT. When Christian it's bad, when Jewish, it's cute and quaint.

>>2574185
It's called competitive racisms cracker, and Americans are number #1.


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"turns out conservatives and reactionaries are just dumb after all" edition.

news:
- Your Party is suing itself, more at 11.
- The SNP and Plaid are going to form a "progressive alliance" somehow
- The government's going to do a switcheroo by raising income tax slightly and cutting national insurance to balance it out. (But they won't - follow this to its logical conclusion and scrap NI entirely)
- They're also considering cutting VAT on energy bills (which is the least efficient way of lowering bills you can imagine)
- The board of deputies asked Aston Villa for free footy tickets. In a worrying sign of rising antisemitism, Aston said nah.
- Labour is falling behind the Greens in the opinion polls as their strategy of copying Reform drives away their already-begrudging supporters without winning over any Reform voting reprobates. Nobody could have predicted this.
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>>2574260
eh, its more relative than that imo.
i dont think you could make every student in the country get A* or 9, or distinctions in their marks just because you spend money on it. some kids like sports and hate maths - some become millionaires because of it. thats just the way it is.

>>2574267
Just by virtue of there having to be winners and losers, even within a system where every single person gets the right answer it will not provide a full A* class - other bullshit will be made to distinguish between these, the class system relies on this.

An example would be why a typical high school native student needs 5 A* subjects to get a free ride in uni, while an oversees paying student might only need 1-2 A's - the system is setup to reward class position first.

>>2574270
maybe im naive but i just think if youre good at maths youll get good marks in maths… its not a conspiracy. i was good at maths, and got a B in GCSEs. i got an A* in english lit. im not from a rich home, i just had that in me.

the best student in the class was also a nigerian pupil who came in around year 9. he had a strict home and was training to go into STEM - so environmental factirs can determine things, but not everything.

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I think AI is going to show people that what we think intelligence is, isn't it at all. I mean computers have been doing that from the very beginning. Being able to do mental math and all that seems like a sign of intelligence. But a cheap free calculator they give away as promos can do mental math, so that can't be intelligence. Also idiot savants, some people even get those kind of abilities after suffering brain injuries.

If you look at it, it's more that ideas are intelligent or not vs this person is intelligent or that person's not. What would all the "intelligence" in the world matter if you weren't trained with the intelligent ideas of all those that came before you.


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A thread for the forgotten continent, so forgotten the thread got wiped.
Discuss anything related to:
>Algeria
>Angola
>Benin
>Botswana
>Burkina Faso
>Burundi
>Cabo Verde
>Cameroon
>Central African Republic (CAR)
>Chad
>Comoros
>Congo, Democratic Republic of the
>Congo, Republic of the
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>>2571472
that niger pipeline wowed me

>>2571472
Yesterday two locals in Port Harcourt told me the French are criminals but are gone. Now it's Russia and China that are there. And that's why Trump is sperging, he also wants in. The chinese built everything, like roads and a rail in Lagos. The chinese own everything.

But those locals weren't stupid, they expected the Chinese to also turn shit. At least they accept the local currency and built some stuff.

But I like how they said that basically the French are gone.

>>2572104
why would the french be in nigeria?

New sahel coup just dropped this time in Guinea Bissau

>>2572542
French companies were and are in Nigeria


 

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/11/23/ohvk-n23.html
/leftypol/ in shambles as the World Socialist Website launches the first ever SOCIALISM AI, a revolutionary tool that will harness artificial intelligence for the development of socialist consciousness in the international working class.

>North stressed that Socialism AI “will not be programmed as the existing chatbots are to provide an answer which has been conditioned by the establishment media.” Rather, “It will provide an accurate, thoroughly researched reply to critical issues which arise in the day to day struggles of the working class. It will answer questions posed by intellectuals, students, youth on a vast range of questions, and will give answers which reflect and express the interests of the working class.”

>This application of the most advanced productive forces to the transformation of consciousness has vast significance. It makes available instantly and globally the theoretical resources, the historical analysis, the programmatic clarity necessary for the working class to understand its historic mission and seize power.

Will this spell the end of the falsifying pseudo-left? Will AI make theory shitposting obsolete? Will a Trotsky LLM lead the revolution? Only time will tell…

>>2574196
Would be interesting to test this. You would have all of Marxist theory on your phone.

wake me up when they test an algorithmic intelligence on a hypothetical planned economy

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>weird sex website has automated their sex pestery


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/PRC/ People's Republic of China 18
>Pet The Donkey Edition
Original threads:
https://archive.ph/S2XYA
https://archive.ph/Ytckv

leftypol.org archives:
https://archive.is/https://leftypol.org/leftypol/res/30501.html

bunekrchan.xyz archives:
https://archive.is/https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/8925.html
https://archive.is/yrBUN
https://archive.is/pCecr
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>>2574197
so the reason the west is rich is because it convers surplus-profit into ground rent…?
my own view is that subsistence costs are high because of infrastructure and transport which must be maintained, raising capital costs - the paradox is that as value expands socially, it contracts privately, hence bills are expensive but groceries are cheap, while it can be the opposite in the undeveloped world.

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>>2574200
the rising value of labour power is easily explained by rising productivity coupled with class struggle keeping the wage rate near 50%. see pdfrel. the point remains the same: the value is created in the North
>so the reason the west is rich is because it convers surplus-profit into ground rent…?
no it is because Capital is compelled to invest. this is also why Chine is growing increasingly rich. the Party forces national porkies to invest. in return they allow them some leeway, but not too much as Jack Ma has learned

>>2574202
>rising productivity coupled with class struggle
it depends on how you define productivity. i would say that the classical revenue of rents is taken up by a large proportion of the cost of living (i.e. bills, taxes) while net wages derived from industry still maintain a higher purchasing power (thus lowering value). the point on class struggle has relevance, since the law of value has been suspended here by state regulation (monopoly) rather than competition or productivity. the marginal product is surely measured by the rate of employment however, but who knows what the rate of profit would be without subsidies?
>keeping the wage rate near 50%
can you explain this point?
>Capital is compelled to invest
isnt it more that the state invests in capital?

i'll check out the book in the meantime.

>>2574216
>can you explain this point?
check out the section Constraints on the Distribution of Wage Rates. the full argument is in chapter 6. it's a bit more subtle than what I initially made it out to be. what Farjoun et al argue is that wage rates must be the way they are due for structural, statistical reasons
>isnt it more that the state invests in capital?
tomayto tomahto. investments are made at a greater rate than in the West, which is ultimately what matters. the CPC is more directly involved in the larger companies I think

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>>2574216
the money shot is figure 6.2. pursuing a policy of wage compressions is likely to raise the wage share. this is precisely the policy pursued by the Swedish labour movement up until the late 1970's or so


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I'm petite bourgeois that has seen my business increase in profits as conditions have gotten worse. (tech 2020-now). Are there any Marxist writing on this phenomenon?
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>>2573703
Not really, tech has been monopolizing for the past decade. Covid breathed some life into some small desktop support companies but there’s already a couple uber but for IT professional apps that have started popping up and tech itself is slowing becoming a blue collar field.

>>2573716
The point is that the tech petite bourgeois has grown in crisis not been absorbed by the bourgeois

>>2573771
Yeah and the more enterprising serf prospered during plague times. Sometimes crisis benefit the surviving lower classes who don’t have to compete with has many people. Cause they’re dead. So their SNL becomes higher.

I would like for the bubble to pop, encouraging a cleavage between day to day IT operations and the ""bleeding edge"" that was previously shovelled out by the mighty tech companies so that the lower to middle ranks of IT workers (the helpdesk, the minor admins, network techs etc) have a better shot at organizing.

>>2573500
do you have employees?


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