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>>2576536
I'm unironically with Garik Weinstein and cereal man Kellogg on this. Just give Ukraine anything it wants, including Tomahawks, Tauruses, NATO membership, tactical nukes, whatever.

>>2576539
>give ukraine shit tons of high tech weaponry we haven't the manufacturing capacity to replace
the US Military knows it cannot afford that, no matter how tough they want to seem to be.

What are good slurs for ukranians? They sold me a bad car

>>2576541
Doesn't matter. Give 'em what's in stock. The situation is dire for Ukraine, but there's more of a chance that Putin will buckle at the knees than there is of Ukraine winning an attrition war.

>>2576543
just call them russians



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Black Friday Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
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He's pausing immigration from third world countries

>>2576524
Prepare for the Burgeriech Labour Front.

>>2576515
Heut' ist mein Tag
Heut' ist
mein Taaag
Heut' ist
mein Taaaaaaaaaaaag

>>2576480
Wrong. Your revisionism is pathetic. Social fascism cannot grow long term because it is capitalism. Even capitalism grows faster than monopoly capitalist social fascism. Social fascist Russia was wracked with routine crises because it was capitalist, unlike China. Unlike Communist China, social fascists couldnt give workers and peasants shoes. Unlike Communist China, social fascist Russia didnt measure economic growth or build innovation. Social fascists measured economic growth in tons of low quality steel. Read che notes on social fascsm
>>2576502
There are no capitalists in China. The socialist transformation of private ownership of the means of production has been completed, the system of exploitation of man by man abolished, and a socialist system established. The exploiting class, as a class, has been eliminated.
>>2576459
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>>2576434
Wrong. China is not stagist. The Party line is not stagist because the primary phase of socialism is not capitalism. To say one phase of Communism comes before another is not stagism. It is stagism to say Communism is impossible in China because china was semi-feudal and must first go through capitalism to make Communism possible

>>2576537
I don't think you'll convince anyone by repeating yourself like a retard



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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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>>2576242
Did they build and train their own model or are they using some open source shit, fine tune a bit and call it a day?

I'm amazed how putting a chat bot ontop of what formerly was done by a search engine is seen as bleeding edge technology and not pointless idiocy.


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>>2576413
You may not like it, but this is peak Islamic Communism.




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I think that Mao the best communist leader of all time because of for the love of his country I bring the rule area in modern area together cultural revolution was based as fuck

I like to read his talks on Marxists.org. He was pretty chill and philosophical. The military strategy aspects of Mao is also kino.

>>2576291
Better at bourgeois revolution that Robespierre himself. Mao the goat.

The cultural revolution didn't work thoughbeit. It just didn't.

>>2576331
His only success (but most significant) was winning the Chinese Revolution. After that its just downhill for him from great leap forward to cultural revolution.

>/leftypol/ - third world nationalism



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>>2576491
China grows majority of it's food. It's kind of like "China exports 5% of foods, imports 10%", therefore baka Westoids think that China is 50% dependent on food imports, they don't take the full production into account and only look at trade balance.

>>2576491
Natural resources like oil and gas.

>>2576488
We have Hong Kongers protesting and trying to use NIMBY tactics lol.

>>2576525
Are they protesting against the CPC for a fire their corner-cutting porky construction techniques caused?



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Are there any books defending the (for lack of a better word) "authoritarianism" of the USSR/DPRK and China?

A lot of the defenses of these countries I've seen from Marxists is to try and say they're not as authoritarian as we think or try and show how capitalist countries are equally or more authoritarian. But as someone who sees no problem with it is there any actual defense of the Communist Party having a strong influence?
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>>2576217
I read plenty of Marx and Engles I don't see a lot of defense of modern Marxist state influence

Mein Kumf
>>2576217
>t. read the preface to the manifesto once

Pseudos be linking an image of library they found online without being able to articulate a single sentence in it

Losurdo comes to mind. Stalin a black legend has a lot of moments like that.



 

How do you cope with spectacle? I know it sounds silly, but it's a genuine question.

I find myself getting drawn into the antics of e-celebs and flavor-of-the-week social media drama without even fully realizing it, and by the time I realize what happened, I've already wasted a disproportionate amount of mental bandwidth on it. I know none of it matters in the grand scheme of things, I know that none of these people hold any significant amount of real-world cultural relevance. But I have so much trouble convincing my reptilian brain of that fact.

If anyone has any suggestions, I would very much like to hear them.
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Unironically, just start learning something. Your mind is a sponge for knowledge and the powers that be are making sure absorbing shit that's of no value beyond keeping their celebrities or their network of e-celebs in your headspace.

If you bury yourself in books, or learning to code, or practicing an instrument then you're taking charge of your own headspace before the slop merchants can fill it for you.

>>2576313
php boards, news groups, imageboards and by now archaic shit like that is social media in the original sense. people interacting, more or less organically, with one another based on a shared interest.

what is called social media nowadays is in fact anti social, individualist and egocentrical. participation is not born from a personal interest in a specific topic but from peer pressure and asinine incentivisation schemes in form of updoots/likes etc. pp. to maximize engagement and screen time.

>>2576402
old person is correct. It's social media, but in a different ballpark to commercial for-profit addiction machines. All we've got is the bump algorithm and (You)s.

>>2576230
Do you have much connection to IRL networks? Friends, sport you play, socialist orgs, that kind of stuff. Definitely helps to have something more important to fill those gaps than spectacle.

Want dramashit? Meet my local trot orgs, especially the ones on college campuses. Holy fuck they are a mess, including the One True Revolutionary Party getting student members to vote second preferences to the right-wing party just to their rival fellow trots couldn't get a seat, not to mention trying to stall pro-Palestine motions which passed unanimously when their stalling didn't work. Or that time they tried to change a protest route at the last minute, but forgot to tell the dozen new students they recruited on that open day, so their leadership got off the train a station early and left their targets to get poached by their rivals.
Hell, even the M-L orgs have their own weird drama, with the CP# splitting into the CP#-ML and the SP#, then CP# dying, and soon after the SP# changing their name to CP#, and the #CP being formed, before a branch split from them. vidrel

>>2576343
>If you bury yourself in books, or learning to code, or practicing an instrument then you're taking charge of your own headspace before the slop merchants can fill it for you.
This. Also getting into political theory (even breadslop), propaganda creation and coding got me out of habitual gaming. At least my hobbies are now somewhat productive while being fun and interesting.

>>2576230
I kinda want the opposite, I want to subsume myself to it.

If I can give one piece of advice, it's that while throwing yourself into learning to code, play an instrument, write a story, draw, or any other creative or skill-developing hobby (fish for all it matters!), is exceptionally worthwhile, you should categorically not get into political theory or history or similar dry academic topics. That's what I did, and I regard it as the only possible waste of time worse than using social media. At least on social media I'd have vague acquaintances and the ability to hold a facsimile of a conversation. Instead, all I have is petty resentments and an encyclopedic knowledge of dead movements, movements that were dead before they started, movements that are undead, dead economic theories, and an all-pervasive sense that everyone engaged in 'politics' outside real power is just LARPing and has nothing approaching a coherent plan for building or taking power.

It is a superficially smarter but actually much dumber way to waste your life. You are still just looking at words on a page - if you want to do that, literature is the way to go, not theory. At least it'll come in handy if you decide you want to write down the road.
This is not the good communist answer, the good communist cliche is to write paeans to theory that you don't actually read. Go on social media and do that if you must, but don't fall for the meme. You will not, in fact, read your way into actually existing socialism. You cannot get that time back, don't waste it like I did.



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Neuigkeiten

<Unpünktlich wie die Eisenbahn; verspätet auf maroden Strecken zu hohen Preisen: DB-Konzern überbietet jedes Jahr seine Negativrekorde

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503080.versp%C3%A4tungen-bei-der-bahn-unp%C3%BCnktlich-wie-die-eisenbahn.html
<Rot gewinnt; Präsidentsschaftskandidatin in Chile ist von der KP
https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503066.kommunisten-rot-gewinnt.html

<Gideon Levy über Massaker der israelischen Armee an Hungernden in Gaza

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503098.dokumentiert-gideon-levy-%C3%BCber-massaker-der-israelischen-armee-an-hungernden-in-gaza.html

<NATO-Manöver am Niederrhein: Kriegsvorbereitung statt Sicherheit

https://www.rf-news.de/2025/kw27/nato-manoever-am-niederrhein-kriegsvorbereitung-statt-sicherheit

<Parteitag der DKP

https://www.unsere-zeit.de/live-ticker-vom-26-parteitag-der-dkp/
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>>2576428
>Dein Volk
lmao. bin ich moses oder was?

>>2574664
don't go to the russian house. they are being praised all the time in the berliner zeitung as a olace of vultural exchange but my dad turned up there and the russian guard there was barking at him "what do you want here" in Russian and when my dad tried to somewhat communicate in polish he wouldn't speak to him at all. they had zero visitors and a permanent exhibition dedicated to some white russian dicking around in weimar

>>2576428
>>2576428
>Willst du dich weiter dummstellen?
well it certainly seems like it fuck germans honestly i just hope they get fucked by the international court for aiding a genocide but the reality is those courts are all but a tool for the global hegemons, when i went to school here i was wondering how germans at the time of the holocaust could just turn the blind eye towards the horrors their people did now i know, i was wondering how just a few years later the majority would pretend that they dont remember anything, now its happening in real time and half of them say there is no genocide and unlike in the 1940s that is is being livestreamed now… there are more (biological) germans showing up a fucking "stadtbilddemo" than at an anti genocide demonstration which are 90% visited by migrants showing these fucks care more about semantics and words than about children being massacred
>>2576445
do you really not know what is meant or do you just dont want to face the situation for what it is? you are a german citizten eligible for voting and do not answer this question was rhetorical
i am writing in english so our international friends can see how evil the germans are and how little they care about human life that they are more willing to focus on wordplays than on human lifes why are these times so cruel may the hardships on these children end soon

>>2576469
What‘s your background? You sound like you lived for a period in Germany and then moved.

>i just hope they get fucked by the international court

That‘s only going to happen once the entire West goes, which hinges on US collapse. Wouldn‘t be surprised if that happens in the next few decades, but we‘ll have to see if people care to revisit this topic by then.

>>2576445
ich weiß nicht wann in diesem drecksloch das letzte mal so etwas wie klassenanalyse stattgefunden hat und das gilt für diesen faden wie für das ganze brett
ich schiebe es mal auf die allseitige mobilmachung für den dritten weltkrieg



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