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Reading Proletarian Revolution and the Renegade Kautsky and I am shocked at how much this book applies to all of you nerds. Actually, it's even worse, because Kautsky was willing to organize the workers to do everything but violent revolution while all of you simply do nothing.

>>2572904
trook

>>2572904
I only post here because there are no actual leftists in America to interact with and I'm tired of twitter normies calling me a pedophile for liking anime but 4channers are all insufferable nazi edgelords. No one on this site has any revolutionary potential, we're just cultural orphans.

>>2572907
Most of the posters here are separated from Nazis only by honesty and courage of conviction. The mods ruthlessly protect far right American nationalists who literally think that anti-imperialism is anti-white and openly root for murderers like Graham Platner to bring them a slightly more comfortable life at the expense of every other human being alive.

>>2570255
What you guys define as Communism the Chinese define as High-Level Communism. It's the exact same marketing trick the Soviets used, to claim that they achieved a Communist society (primary stage of Communism) while not having achieved its high level manifestation (super abundance, anarchism).

>>2572836
no, the cpc, including xi, says they are in the primary (aka first aka preliminary) stage of socialism. professor feng wuzhong of the school of marxism in tsinghua university has a 117 part lecture about it somewhere on youtube. also, the ussr never claimed they achieved a communist society, they said they were building socialism

>>2572875
>preliminary) stage of socialism
means the stage before

>>2572876
they use the word primary like 95% of the time in translation but sometimes "社会主义初级阶段" gets translated as preliminary instead of primary even though they intend to mean early stage. but yeah that translation would be wrong
社会主义 - socialism
初级 - initial / primary / early / elementary
阶段 - stage / phase
picrel is from an old readout

>>2572892
idk i like china and think they are communist but i think the correct identification would be preliminary socialism. meaning they are capcom - capitalist economy lead by a dictatorship of the proletariat. differentiated from full capitalism by the existence of the dtop. at least in the sense that marx says in gotha the first phase is public ownership and renumeration according to work, and china is not there yet since they are still a developing country, infrastructure still very uneven for their population. or rather it is only just now becoming even. im having trouble searching but i think they intend to begin transition to the first phase in 2035 and be halfway to full communism by 2050. but you are right they do call it the initial stage/primary stage. i think thats fine too, like primary school or priming a pump. i dont think it contradicts marx either because the gotha program was written for germany which was relatively advanced at the time.

>>2572530
It's actually a forced meme in the west to tolerate jews

>>2572377
I heard China has a critical shortage of BWC, the women are getting severe withdrawal symptoms.

>I'm not talking about 19th century race science, I'm talking about genetics. All I say is that 19th century race science largely broadly got the main "races" or populations largely correct in terms of genetic groupings. I don't think anything else is relevant from 19th century race science at all.
They didn't though, and it massively set us back in term of ancestral study.
>In how animals behave, think, instincts etc.
This is relative to an even larger degree to their physical morphology and the behavior that results from how they must use it (How does a bat think?)
>The only reason subspecies category isn't used in humans is ideological reasons. Again, Why does one deer that has a white tail, yet in almost every other way the exact same deer on the other side of the valley a different "sub species" yet this doesn't relate to humans when dogs and wolves have a smaller genetic drift than between human ethnicities?
It usually isn't. in fact, multiple animals aren't "subspecies" anymore because of the fact that they don't have enough genetic differentiation. Dogs and wolves are a bad comparison because of how generally applicable "dog" is, but in short, humans barely even compare in regards to Fst.
>No, this is how your westoid brain thinks because Westerners seemingly can only view history through their own lens.
Dude, you're a westerner. You wouldn't link what you have if you weren't, and if you aren't its even more pathetic.
>My argument is actually more akin to the prime directive of Star Trek. Aboriginals, Polynesians, Native Americans etc should have been left alone and differences in how ethnicitiers actually adapated and viewed the world, could be taken in account when crafting policies designed to help people or improve social cohesion.
They aren't alone though, they're within and operating through society. This "prime directive" shit is even more patronizing, it comes off as some kind of western liberal who thinks that X or Y is incapable for a given group, ignoring the centuries of oppression applied to them.
>Genes relating to exactly how we think
>rs708913(a) found broadly in Europeans and Asians, not broadly found in Africans
>rs2099744(a) found broadly in EuroPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2571978
>okay, so political orientation is based around whether you support mass immigration or not, as i have previously affirmed.
If they rejected class analysis, they also wouldn't be a leftist for us. It's the fact that being "for" or "against" mass immigration is a consequential rejection of class analysis and organization that makes them not a leftist.

>>2530843
The Global Migration Crisis is purely a result of the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System that has created widespread Poverty/Inequality/Starvation combined with Genocidal Imperialist Wars launched by the U$ and the Zionist State throughout the Periphery/Semi-Periphery countries that has caused millions of people from Latin America, Sub-Saharan Africa, the Middle East, the Indian subcontinent, Eastern Europe, and East Asia to flee their homes and try to get to the Imperial Core (ie. The U$ and Western Europe), where they are used by the Bourgeoisie for both cheap labor and as a convenient scapegoat/bogeyman to divide the Proletariat in order to elect Fascists like Trump who will gut the Social Safety Net and eventually declare Martial Law and permanently suspend Bourgeois Liberal Democracy, so their is no way to truly solve this problem as long as the Global Capitalist-Imperialist System exists, but once the World Maoist PPW (in the aftermath of the inevitable World War III between the U$ and China escalating into a Global Nuclear War that completely destroys the entire Global Capitalist-imperialist System) successfully creates a Global USSR (all of the SSRs and SFSRs of the future Global USSR are shown in the Map I posted), the Global Migration Crisis will end, as their will be no Material reason for anyone to migrate anymore, as every person worldwide will have Free Housing, Free Healthcare, Free Education, a Job Guarantee, and a UBI, and most people who migrated will probably voluntarily return to their homelands, with every Nation/Ethnic group receiving their own SSR according to the Marxist-Leninist-Maoist principle of Self-Determination of all Oppressed Nations in their own SSR as articulated in Stalin’s “Marxism and the National Question” https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1913/03a.htm and Lenin’s “The Socialist Revolution and the Right of Nations to Self-Determination” https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/jan/x01.htm , along with the National Delimitation Policy of the USSR hPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2572676
>rhe impprtance of his work.
it doesnt have any

>>2572307
>U.S. flips on Ukraine
Mercouris is smoking something heavy again. I'm ashamed that I used to believe he was the sharp Duran bro while Alex C was some literal-who vlogger bro with a laptop, but time has shown that it's the other way around.

>>2572731
hes good for learning dialectics if you listen to his lectures and supplement with other authors but i think his recent work has gotten worse

>>2572731
This. Obscurantism is the mark of the intellectual coward. We've seen how 'profound' his insight really is when he opines on something political in plain language: a bunch of low-brow neolib slogans that are a dime a dozen in The Atlantic, NYT, etc.

>>2572860
Who is this midget? I find him distasteful.
>>2572865
>Is it true that Maduro is a Trotskyite
No. You're thinking of Chavez.

>>2572843
I know how sensitive you are about this, but it's true. Targeting all classes of the enemy is more leftist-coded than targeting only proles like Putin does. Obviously the underlying motives are dogshit, tho.

>>2572862
You must've missed the neo-Nazi part. That should be the level 10 siren that you have the wrong interpretation of what was written.

Hopefully Venezuela has received some good AA gear and shoots down more US planes than Iran did (0). But knowing Xi and Putin, unlikely.

>>2572188
>Christmas cancelled for US troops surrounding Venezuela. Gen Dan Caine, America’s most senior military officer, has been dispatched to the Caribbean
<they thought they could get the drop on them over christmas.
Pic: Maduro laughing at these retards from October.
>>2572192
>This is entirely for resources
No. It's also about toppling the left in latin-america. They believe Cuba and Nicaragua will fall 'like dominoes'.

>>2572789
>I don't know if it's already happening, but it wouldn't surprise me if dumbass right wingers start stigamtizing even further third worlders for flooding xitter.
And what are they gonna do, post meaner and harder?
Beg the jannies to act against their own profitable engagement farmers?
Start their own sectarian witch hunt to tell the grifters from the grifters(Bangladeshi)?

I hope they do this last one and spiral into paranoia, like /pol/'s imaginary JIDF infiltrators.

>>2572702
Global South in absolute shambles

>>2572702
if you could run a BLACKED account, and earn fifteen bucks a month, would you do it (ya, ya, ya, ya, ya, ya, ya, ya)

>>2572442
starting to believe the people calling him a dnc op might be right. i think he recently shit on the idea of a third party

>>2572605
DO turks really give what they leave behind their to their nieces and nephews? That's pretty cool. Kind of sucks though because… unless, does he get all his parents stuff and all his aunties and uncles stuff? How do they choose which one it is going to be? Kind of sucks for everyone else though.

>>2572492
>If you aint a ML as a teen you have no heart. If you aint an ultra as an adult you have no brain
If you don't want to retvrn to Mitterand while boxing in the Communist Party as junior partners as an old man you have no sovl

>>2572492
A heartless Ultra’s life for me

>>2572106
its true but more nuanced than a direct conspiracy. trots are fine in latam for example. leftcoms and anarchists are also pretty anti-communist. opposing the ussr is pretty stupid usually there is a conflation here with modern russia which obviously isn't communist. same with the cpc. its fine to be critical or skeptical but actually propagandizing against them in a public forum is certainly anti-communist. i find that most people dont "worship" either one and usually people think a few online personality psychos like the ACP are representative of the majority when they very much are not. and finally campism in the pejorative sense isn't a real thing. being in the socialist camp is good.

>>2572352
>lesser imperialist
no such thing, its either imperialist or not and if you actually understand imperialism then you know it only applies to ex british colonies western europe japan and worst korea.

>>2572376
>"multipolar" nations are not only doing nothing to help them, but are often actively harming them as well, so i don't want to hear it
pretty clearly misunderstanding the point. unipolarity means no competition and IMF sets loan rates like a monopolist. multipolarity means lower rates for productive development(the definition of progress according to marx) due to competition outside the dollar system. thats it

>>2572690
>allying with Nazis
<literal non-aggression pact to stall for time against the inevitable war is allying
<meanwhile the many big capitalists of Europe and America literally funded the Nazi war effort
Just admit you would have loved to see socialism stamped out by the nazis so you can mind wank to le pure anarchistic "resistance" (that totally would have succeeded against the nazi warhost) to bring real "socialism" to the world.
>allying with western colonialists
The USSR literally liberated half of fucking Europe, and still, will never be forgiven for it.

>>2572654
/thread

>>2572686
do you genuinely think the Brits and French wouldn't just watch in 1939 as Hitler marches East and destroys the Soviets?

>>2572690
>so mindbroken by reddit contrarianism that beating up the nazis BUT with the help of the Western allies is seen as epic gotcha
Lol

>>2572810
How would a weaker Germany in 1939 destroy the Soviets? The sort of long campaign needed to conquer Poland and Russia would mean the Nazis would have no one on the western front to stop Britain and France