/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

>>2827482
bro i thought those were PDFs, but yeah wallerstein definitely

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>>2850888
Suck start a shotgun, parasite

>>2850894

you and your loved ones will one day, eat a breakfast that contains a healthy dose of lead. i read it in a fortune cookie

>fedlarper now collapsing into adventurism
At least remain consistent for once in your live, you intellectual skunk

>>2850892
pure bullshit. your argument is just "i think the left just wants to destroy things blah blah", well sucks to be in your head i guess.

>>2850890
Industrial capital is weak and will never reign supreme in america again. why? all of it was sent overseas because labor is too expensive here, so until labor magically gets cheaper somehow (impossible with negative birthrates and no immigration) financial capital will remain dominant and its why we have a former landlord in charge

Yes it's an interimperialist conflict between to bourgeois states. But I still want the pedophile oligarchs I live under who have a vested interest in the success of the Israeli state to be defeated and humiliated. Just as any Iranian communist will want the Islamist regime toppled.

>>2850787
>pedophile oligarchs
>defeated and humiliated
<Goodism
Lib

>>2850886
>Nooo you can't hate the ruling class for raping children! You're doing a heckin moralismmmm!!
kill yourself

>>2850785
There’s basically nothing else to do if the nation state remains the basic political form, and the Chinese have no interest in going beyond that, as they are Chinese nationalists (not even a bad thing)

>>2850780
>The Chinese
Racial analysis isn't correct

>>2850834
A schizo off the street drunk as shit off baijiu calling for the PLA to storm moscow doesn’t count, the government does

Putin will open the Oldest Vault

>>2848490
That isn't including SOE executives and investors. SOEs are operated as private companies.

>>2850449
Hilarious, you extend the conceptualisation of fetishism where it suits you in order to avoid a proper historical account of the concept.

Hence you reduce value to nothing more than a conceptual fetish itself. That you believe Marx suspends the use of value under monopoly conditions is all the more ridiculous given the utter irrelevance of that quote.

Likewise the idea of fetishism 'increasing' is absolute nonsense. And that you have merely requoted Marx without consideration of the second quote given in the original post from First Premises signifies that you have not understood the basic premise that again knowledge is produced as a consequence of the social relations of production. Thus you find absolutely no issue absconding from any treatment of history proper and seek to argue through obfuscation of terminology by blending ancient greek philosophy and contemporary political economic theory.

That you believe fetishism begins prior to Marx's stated proposition is absurd. Again, reread On The Jewish Question for a formulaic argument on religion as the inversion of social consciousness and you will discover that what you mistake as fetishism is instead the direct result of the mode of production conditioning social being (species being).

>>2850495
>you reduce value to nothing more than a conceptual fetish itself.
Anon, that is Marx's meaning of commodity fetishism… The fetishism of commodities is the spectre of "value" itself, hence as Marx writes, the vulgar economist imposes the concept of value onto natural laws. As Marx continues, "no chemist has ever discovered exchange-value in a pearl or diamond". This is why commodity production obscures social production behind this "hieroglyph", which is the commodity fetish. This is why to Marx, "value no longer appears" in a communist society, where the social product is directly distributed, rather than indirectly (e.g. Gothakritik). So, "value" is the fetishism of commodities which mystifies social production in all societies which exchange. This is why communism abolishes commodity exchange.
>Marx suspends the use of value under monopoly conditions
It is written as clear as day, because Marx is borrowing from Smith and Ricardo. Monopoly suspends the law of value because the market loses perfect competition.
>the idea of fetishism 'increasing' is absolute nonsense
Anon, the commodity fetish develops into the money fetish into the capital fetish. This is in Marx's writing…
>you believe fetishism begins prior to Marx's stated proposition
Marx's proposition is that commodity fetishism begins "at an early date in history" which is more transparent, until commodity production and fetishism increases:
<It therefore makes its appearance at an early date in history, though not in the same predominating and characteristic manner as now-a-days. Hence its Fetish character is comparatively easy to be seen through. But when we come to more concrete forms, even this appearance of simplicity vanishes. Whence arose the illusions of the monetary system? To it gold and silver, when serving as money, did not represent a social relation between producers, but were natural objects with strange social properties. And modern economy, which looks down with such disdain on the monetary system, does not its superstition come out as clear as noon-day, whenever it treats of capital?
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>>2850870
This is such willful obscurantism of that chapter that I'm going to bother to respond, likewise for the fact that as again you've cherry picked the ending passage despite the chapter containing numerous repetitions of the argument of its historically specific character to the nature of bourgeois society. Likewise your mystification and confusion of the critique of value with social fetishism is equally absurd.

Actually reread that chapter, specifically the first half and do not just go quote hunting.

>>2850874
Not going to bother to respond**

>>2850876
You are responding in your apparent 'lack' of response.
>>2850495
>religion as the inversion of social consciousness
Yes, and "value" is the *fetishism* of commodities, which mysfifies social relations by indirect representation. This is why Beverley Best connects fetishism to the Base/Superstructure dynamic. Value is a superstructural abstraction of the base economic conditions.
>>2850874
>obscurantism
No, I am the person who simplifies.
>historically specific character of bourgeois society.
Yes, which Marx says begins at "an early date in history" in embryo (e.g. based in the production of commodities). As you will read, fetishism first begins in an appearance of "simplicity", until money develops, and from money, the automatic fetish of interest-bearing capital (an antediluvian form of capital which precedes capitalism). Thus, fetishism *increases* as commodity production generalises.

Small Smokey fire over Kiev yesterday despite claims all Russian missiles were shot down, anyone want to get really overexcited about that? No?

>>2850587
>Japan and Germany got the short end of the stick imperial games.
I hate liberals

>>2850587
Critical support for Nazi Germany against USA imperialism.

>>2850784
Well my uktainians hackers with blurry screenshots said 26 millions russians died for this

>>2850596
Reminder:

>>2849565
>Even then, he brought McDonald's and Pizza Hut.
Then it's all worth it

>>2850842
Party discipline went to the gutter when Breznhev became senile and it got filled with mentally retarded wannabe-plutocrats and petty nationalists from non-russian republics trying to loot as much shit for themselves as possible.
The party imploded because a non-negligible amount of it's cadres wanted to loot the copper wires to become "rich" so they could pay for fancy cars and bang extremely mid prostitutes.

>>2850842
The USA seemed to have no idea what was going on until it was over and flip flopped between Gorbachev and Yeltsin. The color revolutions of the past decades often have the marks of foreign intelligence agencies all over them, yet what would be the biggest and most intricate undermining of a geopolitical rival in all of history does not seem to have any.

I don't really see any indication other than that the fall of the Soviet Union was entirely endemic, beyond the pressures of the Cold War.

>>2850858
Ideas are a material force in the world

It might be enrirely possible that the soviet union simply fell for liberal values and lost faith in its own project.

The party is not just for organizing stuff, it's the thing that structures the masses' subjectivity itself. When that's gone, it's ogre

I think the reason the party became disoriented is because they declared socialism too early, and became blind to actually existing class contradictions still going on in society.

I don't even know what they could've done to avoid it, China's still around partially because they looked at the soviet union rotting and thought "ok, don't do that". The disadvantage of being the first

>>2850864
>I don't even know what they could've done to avoid it
Re-instating the NEP after the WWII reconstruction

>>2848404
>furry hitler got a sequel
this is huge for the furry hitler community

>>2848404
>nooooooo muh treats
Why do lamers care so much about their retarded toys? If modern games are so bad, go play older ones. There's way more good games out there than what a person can play in a lifetime.

>>2850823
>Why do lamers care so much about their retarded toys?
Because then they'd have to go outside and chud gamers are allergic to the sun.

>>2848404
He's going out of his way to look at porn games and then using that to complaining about modern games, when like, most modern games are not porn games. There are plenty of amazing indie games. I could claim all 2000s games were slop if I cherrypicked shovelware as my examples.

>>2849961
Definitely looks like your typical aussie loser who had to flee Australia for various sex offenses related to underage kids, especially in the Philippines

Also fumny thing about this new guy. The company moved him to the apartment next to us. Every morning when we meet our neighbors/colleagues we shake hands.

Second day he says, refusing my unshaken hand:
>Can we just skip this? I don't want to shake your hand every day!

Like, ok, bro, but then, at work Mr. Narcissist is like:
< Plz help me, how do I do this, how do I do that, what is this, what does that mean, what is this or that tool?

I'm literally gonna tell this /gym/fag tomorrow that
>No prole handshake in the morning = no work help

**=Fuck off==

proles have popeye forearms. that's how you can tell

Ableism thread

>>2850741 kek
American?

I always hated gym bros and joggers.

Not because i see the activity as wrong or unhealthy or annoying. But i see people who do that shit and know they can afford the time and money to do that kind of thing while also not being tired from physically demanding work all the time.

Also for some reason they're usually cunts. not always. but usualy.