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Through Nazism To A Zionist Village edition.

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
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https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/05/world/europe/ukraine-corruption-zelensky.html

The Yanks sure like making a show of pushing Zelensky off the cliff without actually giving the fatal push. Everything seems carefully calibrated to give the impression but not the result. Hmm…

>>2587764
Zelensky is a dog that doesn't understand what is demanded of him. So, Uncle Sam-Hasan shocks him

>>2587751
It's really funny when you point out who supported Iraq, Libya, Chechnya, Afghanistan, etc. Followed by all the board Manichean zealots throwing a fit because you rejected their chungus anti-imperialista multipolarista proletarian vs bourgeois nations worldview.
>>2587763
Don't look up who else "invested" in the Iraqi energy sector after 2003. It's also not like the Russian bourg may have benefited from Libyan and Iraqi oil production being knocked out and depressed for a while.
>glowlgowlgowl!
Whatever makes you feel better and more important

>>2587763
Capital HATES when it expands into new markets thanks to forced privatization and war reconstruction contracts

Sorry timmy but brown workers are human, brown and yellow bourgeoisie are not :)

>>2587771
Grillpilled Schizo, is this you?!


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Probably my most "Idpol" opinion is that on some subconscious level, people pay more attention to what’s happening in Palestine partly because Palestinians are perceived as more Caucasian or white-adjacent compared with the victims of crises in places like Sudan, Myanmar, or Somalia. Again I don’t think most people make this distinction intentionally or out of active racism, it’s just a bias that many groups, including white people and Arabs across the political spectrum, end up participating in without realizing it.
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>>2582476
>Berlin Moscow Axis

>>2586723
The poster was made before the USSR left the Berlin Axis to join the London Axis :)

>>2582514

Another aspect is that Palestine is also perceived as one of the most helpless and pure victim conflicts, therefore relatively safe to support.

If resistance ever lot more intense, nevermind led by even milktoast socdems, the support would begin to evaporate very fast.

>>2585273
The US fucked over Somalia during the cold war, but the UN aid mission is not an Invasion


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People were upset about that one essay he wrote saying that prostitution was good and young Italian men needed to fuck prostitutes. I can't find it ATM but it wasn't translated into English.

>fake labubu
material explanation?

I think that he's the most advanced Marxist theorist since Lenin and a successor to Marx and Lenin

Gramsci > Stalin

>>2587426

That is not a high bar

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He promotes class collaboration


 

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>>2587572
healt innovations

>>2587668
Wrong. The imperialist amerikan petty-bourgeois is genocidal. All of their houses are build on stolen lands. Their most advanced voice is tucker carlson or nick fuentes. Research has shown they comprise most of imperialist armed forces.

>>2587678
>anti-communist red-scare propaganda #33974387

>>2587719
>>2587754
on one hand, I shouldn't have reposted it without knowing the source. On the other hand, when I asked an anon the other week what the source was, when they first posted it 3 or 4 threads ago, they didn't answer me. It seems the only way to find a source for a quote is to post it and get people to yell at you for it lol

>>2587761
More often than not, if you can't find a source for a quote it means it's either made up or it came from dubious sources. Not always, but most of the time.


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The Kurdish nationalist movement’s anti-communism

>By Cansu Oba

>A recent article published by one of the Kurdish nationalist movement’s media outlets has provided an opportunity to revisit certain aspects of the movement’s class character and ideological foundations.
>In reality, this stance is not new. Throughout Abdullah Öcalan’s years in prison, he has repeatedly produced statements and writings that target socialist experiences and the founders of scientific socialism. These have for some time been highlighted in the movement’s own media.


>What makes the current moment significant is that Öcalan is one of the central actors in an ongoing political process in Turkey. The “peace process”—carried out with the open support of the leader of the fascist party and through direct contact between Öcalan, a parliamentary commission, and state officials—has transformed the political environment. At the same time, a former co-chair and current MP of the Kurdish nationalist movement’s party, the DEM Party, declared that the party now effectively serves as the country’s main opposition. All of this signals that the emerging bourgeois political landscape provides fertile ground for the resonance between the Kurdish nationalist movement’s attacks on socialism and the bourgeois politics’ more traditional forms of anti-communism.

>Yet the PKK was never, in reality, a genuinely Marxist-Leninist organization. Founded in the late 1970s, a period in which the left dominated Turkey’s political and social arena, the PKK employed Marxist-Leninist terminology and drew from these values, but it was always, at its core, a national movement.

>Claims that Öcalan has “surpassed Marxism”—when considered together with his recent statement that he has been “waiting 50 years to be understood”—suggest a line of ideological continuity rather than a merely conjunctural shift.

>The Kurdish nationalist movement, now firmly situated somewhere between social democracy and nationalism within Turkey’s political landscape, has strengthened ties with various factions of the bourgeoisie, including some of Turkey’s most prominent capitalist families. Meanwhile, its distance from the republic’s founding prinPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

https://www.idcommunism.com/2025/12/the-kurdish-nationalist-movements-anti-communism.html

forgot link

>>2586843
>“Historical materialism should replace class struggle with ‘the commune.’ It is more accurate to revise Marxism through this concept. History is not a history of class struggle but of conflict between the state and the commune.”
>“The fundamental contradiction begins with the conflict between the masculine and feminine elements in society. It does not originate from class. Marx’s class-based conflict theory is the main reason real socialism collapsed.”
>“Marx, to live with his wife, sells his coat. He says, ‘Let me write this book so it earns money and saves my marriage.’ Is this what Marxism is supposed to be?”
Daym did Öcalan really say this? is he stupid?

This is an ok analysis from what I've read so far. But I don't get these guys obsessions with "national movements" zeroing out the possibility of genuine Communist intentions. If the Kurds are oppressed, national liberation is perfectly materialist surely.

I'm tired a contrarian Turkish leftists supporting Kurdish hitlers, they're just like westoid leftists supporting brown hitlers.

>>2586843
These so called Turkish Marxists are having a sperg because Ocalan doesn’t adhere to their dogma.

In a recent press conference he stated: quote-

>The PKK has fulfilled its historical mission by securing the national existence of the Kurdish people, while also exposing the limitations of nation-state socialism. Twentieth-century socialism emerged as a negative revolutionary intervention, yet failed to present a lasting alternative. Despite enormous sacrifices, this struggle has become a legacy enriched through both theoretical and practical critique. To honor and to own this legacy properly requires transforming socialism from a mere memory to a living social force beating at the heart of the people. The socialist tradition in history must be understood as a legacy aimed at building both peace and democratic society, and the path forward lies in fulfilling internationalist responsibilities—in theory and in practice.

>Although utopian socialists and Marxists have offered comprehensive critiques of the capitalist hegemonic system since the 19th century, they failed to develop a decisive line with concrete results. Today’s capitalism is no longer merely a crisis; it has become a disease threatening the very survival of humankind. The monopoly of violence in the form of the nation-state plays a defining role in this collapse.

>Just as capitalism cannot be explained solely through economic motives, the failures of socialist movements cannot be explained only by capitalist repression. Historical and contemporary mistakes have also been decisive.

>My critiques of Marxism must be understood correctly. I do not blame Marx; in his era, history was not better understood as it is today and there was no ecological crisis, and capitalism was still on the rise. Even so, Marx was a thinker of profound self-questioning and intellectual courage. He perceived the importance of women’s liberation, yet approached it superficially, believing that once economic exploitation was overcome, gender oppression would naturally dissolve. His attempt to interpret social history exclusively through class, and his insufficient analysis of the state and the nation-state, led to serious consequences. While offering these critPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

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So now on youtube you an just upload yourself gaybashing / assaulting leftists and screaming dirty islamists at people while threatening assault.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uA1Vzua4_ys

You cunts are probably ok with this as well. Truly a hellhole country.

>>2587619
most of the 'middle class' are working class in marxist terms. engage with modern conditions.

>>2587723
Wtf the local crackeads and repros are having YT channels now? Mad fucking world.

>>2587737
Income is not a trivial factor. Once you reach a certain level of affluence and stability you have a material vested interest in not rocking the boat too much. Even Marx and Engels acknowledged that more well-off workers tended to be more conservative and anti-revolutionary in their outlook, and they were speaking of workers FAR less privileged than the upper middle class today.

>>2587698
My position is more ridiculous in that it's uncommon, but more sensible in that it's a cost-benefit analysis more than anything else. one that invites you to see the status quo as extremist and, even if not endorsing all my points, move in my direction.

>>2587766
This is very true, but the 'lower middle class' get minimum wage plus cultural capital.


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So this video has been going viral recently and it’s made me ask: will the demand to designate doctors and nurses as “cops” and the move to abolish doctors, nurses, and hospitals as we know it be the next bullshit wedge issue to divide an already fragile left?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR2sZ0fD2DM/

Basically, she uses Silvia Federici and Michel Foucault to argue that doctors are oppressive, that hospitals are prisons, and that we should seek to go back to a time when witches and doulas were the main providers of healthcare through giving herbal medicines like mugwort and tree bark. She also claims doctors gatekeeper medical knowledge and every individual should take care of their own health without relying on professionals. She also says we need to be more “death positive” and just accept death instead of using medical treatments of offset it.

Personally, I find these types of sentiments dangerous, especially given how we just came out of a pandemic that killed at least 10 million people worldwide and many Americans die due to lack of healthcare access. Your thoughts? Are doctors and nurses the equivalent to cops,
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>>2587742
In sone countries, female doctors outnumber male ones.

Also, how does “community medicine” (which I’m assuming she means DIY quack cures like pink salt) prevent a fucking pandemic or treat/cure illnesses that often result in early death if left untouched? What a fucking idiot.

>>2587742
Why do these people assume we can erase the past?

>>2587547
This is the result of not murdering enough neo-luddites and primmies

>>2587722
Not death positive enough, you forgot to kill yourself

>>2587547
I'll be damned if she doesn't end up being outed as 764 / O9A freak. Wicca definitely has a pipeline to neonazi satanism. This is some church of euthanasia type shit.


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I'm from /pol/ I gave up on that shithole fillen with jewish VPNs and memeflags, there's no healthy discussion to be made there it's all insult throwing and the occasional gore and porn, do you commies accept refugees?
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>>2587730
America is so revolutionary we take reactionaries from AES to help their transition.

>>2587735
THE PENIS IS EVIL, THE ANCIENT CIVILIZATION OF PROLETARYANS LIVED IN HARMONY AND PROSPERITY UNTIL <<< ((( THEY )) >>> ARRIVED AND BROUGHT WAR THAT DIVIDED HUMANITY. IT IS THE DESTINY OF THE PROLETARIANS WHICH ARE THE OFFSPRING OF PROLETARYANS TO UNITE HUMANITY ONCE AGAIN.
The root of proletariat comes from Latin meaning "offspring,"

I thought pepe was banned here automatically, like jannies set up a bot to insta ban and all, what the fuck do you mean this thread is still up but the last time I Posted him 3 years ago it was taken down in seconds.

>>2587744
Tbh I proposed quality control because it got stale seeing the same shitty memes over and over again and wanted more OC, they implemented that but it got rolled back because they couldint tell apart OC from non-OC pics and ended up banning me as well LOL.

Yes, you dont even have to change your believes much, just instead of being cucked US ultra nationalist with irrational hatred for 3th worlders switch it other way around.


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