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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

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>>2588447
It's just realistic to expect 9 billion humans to attain sufficient sustenance from plant based options

>>2588451
vegans dont care about human sustainability, which is why they often fantasise about our extinction

>>2588451
Growing plants requires far less energy and land area than rearing animals. Not to add all the additional crops necessary for farm animals.

>>2588447
>all living beings deserve the right to live.
Even bacteria giving you infection?

>>2588454
I assume vegans are underage or close to it. It's nearly impossible to sustain 1 human life through veganism, much less billions of lives and you must be very young to endure it


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Has anyone else been dismayed by how like 99% of the left these days is fanatically pro-Copyright/IP, reporting people for IP "piracy" and whining about Technology finally BTFO'ing terrible Copyright laws?
>"Nooo my giant media companies and slop artists deserve to have a capitalist monopoly on thoughts and ideas for literally 150 years NOOOOOOOO"
Anyway, any Marxist who is against mass smart automation through AI should hand in their Marxist membership card.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch08.htm
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>end exploitation
It's not exploitation. You already put that value into that dead image. Your resource of labor was already used. What happens to the goods after they are produced is irrelevant to you. It is far more like the process Marx applauded: using the initially undesirable byproduct of an industrial process in other industrial processes.
The oversimplified analogy may be buying old tables and restoring them. Yes, I am cutting into those hard-working local carpenters' petty bourgeois market, yes, my business couldn't exist without their work, but nowhere do I exploit them. They may even go out of business and hate me - not that it actually happened to any artists yet - but they just got outcompeted in the market. I'm sure Nvidia felt that way about the used graphics card market when they cared about the non-enterprise consumer.

It's a well known fact that the trans nonbinary furry who is barely able to make a living off of commissions and is one rent hike away from living on the streets is actually a petite bourgeois fascist class enemy

>>2588425
Anon finds out that even porkies can go bankrupt and forced to get a real job.

>>2588425
That's right. The petty bourgeois can become proletarian. That's literally Marxism 101 for babies.

>>2588425
why does it matter if they are nonbinary, furry, or trans? what you wanted to say is
>if you are barely able to make a living of commissions and are one rent hike away from living on the streets, you are actually a petty bourgeois fascist class enemy
idpol is retarded, and sou are you


 

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>May Lenin awaken the workers and help them to see the necessity of revolutionary civil war in the United States.

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>>2588400
Revolution is far off, too many people believe in a nebulous form of a fairer capitalism. However, everyone is mad at both bourgeois parties. People who loved Trump at most have just stopped talking about him.

>>2588426
The one he is focusing on is that Nick's dad said they should avoid Applebee's because the employees are black. Nick is getting so triggered by this trying to work around it that his dad is not racist and talking about having black friends in school lol. He is saying piers is going low with this and attacking his parents.

>two retards fighting

>>2588432
Nick is triggered at now saying "sure" "yeah" over and over. He's so mad lol

>>2588400
People below 40 are way more skeptical of liberal capitalism based on statistics, but it’s hard to tell if that could slip into fascist sympathy based on public opinion polling. The current economic situation is hard to defend but the trend in U.S. history is that the people end up scapegoating the immigrants, mexicans, blacks, or another foreign country when capitalism falters. My optimistic guess is there will be a moment where social democrats get really popular and then everyone gets cynical about socialism again when it fails. My pessimistic guess is the U.S. won’t even get that far before tech oligarchs fund a Curtis Yarvin ceo-monarchy.


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I'm from /pol/ I gave up on that shithole fillen with jewish VPNs and memeflags, there's no healthy discussion to be made there it's all insult throwing and the occasional gore and porn, do you commies accept refugees?
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welp. 4chan is kil for a couple more hours at least so here I am. Seize the means of reproduction or whatever you guys like to say.

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>/pol/
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>>2587466
If you're serious about actually understanding Marxism, not the liberalized, toothless version that treats worker co-ops as the end goal, you need to ground yourself in foundational theory, not vague market-friendly nonsense.

Start with Engels for a solid orientation:

"Principles of Communism" lays out the basics in Q&A format: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm

"Socialism: Utopian and Scientific" helps contrast real scientific socialism with moralistic daydreams: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/Engels_Socialism_Utopian_and_Scientific.pdf

Before diving into Capital, it's worth getting a grip on Marx’s political economy:

"Value, Price and Profit", dissects surplus value and wages under capitalism: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/value-price-profit.pdf

"Wage Labor and Capital", earlier and simpler, good to pair with the above: https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/wage-labour-capital.pdf

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>>2587548
How many political imageboards are existing?
Preferably without sadistic /pol/tards and /leftypol/ Jannies


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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
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<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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>>2588228
I think there might be at least some truth to this. Historically speaking Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan and Fascist Italy weren't dependent on major foreign powers the same way Israel is for their security and government finances. It would be completely antithetical to their self stated raison d'etre.

>>2588396
Piers Morgan is cornering nick pretty good. He quoted him word for word on things his parents said from stories he said on show and clips of things nick said about black people, women and Jews. He is making nick defend these jokes or statements to their literal words repeating then over and over. Nick kept trying to work around saying piers is like targeting him. Piers is cornering him calmly not letting him change topic

Good to see

>>2588427
The one he is focusing on is that Nick's dad said they should avoid Applebee's because the employees are black. Nick is getting so triggered by this trying to work around it that his dad is not racist and talking about having black friends in school lol. He is saying piers is going low with this and attacking his parents.

Good stuff

>>2588433
Nick is triggered at now saying "sure" "yeah" over and over. He's so mad

Piers is fumbling hard, people are already scared of longer white boys in schools, and even worse they're both wrong, in the past few years most shooters are full on adults just targeting schools, not even students anymore, so it's irrelevant.


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Today begins the presidential and legislative election of the Central American of Honduras. With the left-wing Libre party, wish wishes to change the constitution to an anti-neolib and democratic socialist stance, at odds with the liberal and social conservative neoliberal bloc.
Whilst this is happening, Trump has pardoned a former Honduran president convicted of drug trafficking offences whilst going off about how conveniently the whole Venezuelan military high command is full of alleged drug traffickers. Honduras is of considerable strategic importance to the United States. With several U.S. Army bases situated there. Trump has also gone off about how the electorate must vote away from the Libre "communists" and vote anyone else.
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Isn't Libre complaining about election fraud?

>>2587157
>>2587153

>Although Mr. Cerrato López, 62, normally backed the right-wing National Party, he said he had planned to vote for another right-wing candidate, Salvador Nasralla, who was leading by a small margin in some polls, in hopes of kicking the governing left-wing party out of office.

>But when President Trump threw his support behind the National Party’s candidate, Nasry Asfura, just days before the vote, and suggested he wouldn’t work with the other top two candidates, Mr. Cerrato López said he was surprised but pleased. He said he switched his vote to Mr. Asfura.

>And when Mr. Trump announced that he would pardon a notorious former president of Honduras, Juan Orlando Hernández, a member of Mr. Asfura’s party who was convicted last year of working with cartels to flood the United States with cocaine, Mr. Cerrato López said he was more confident in his decision because he believed Mr. Hernández had helped the military when in office.

>Mr. Mejía said that independent voters and “many” supporters of Mr. Asfura’s party had intended to vote for Mr. Nasralla because they saw him as having the best chance to end the tenure of the governing party, which includes the candidate Rixi Moncada.

>“But when they heard that about Trump, they went back to their party, and some independents started to have doubts,” he said.

>Ricardo Romero Gonzales, who runs an independent polling company in Honduras, said that based on his daily polling, Mr. Nasralla had a nine-point lead before Mr. Trump’s endorsement of Mr. Asfura. After Mr. Trump weighed in, he said, the candidates were in a virtual tie.

>Mr. Romero Gonzales said that roughly a third of Hondurans have a family member in the United States and that people thought about them when voting. He added, “People believe the country will be worse off if we are enemies of Trump.”

>Hondurans who voted for Mr. Asfura said they did so in part because they yearned for a better relationship with the United States. They said they worried that a different candidate winning could hurt Honduras, a country that relies heavily on money transfers from many undocumented migrants in the United States.
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>>2587189
Everyone's awful and the world sucks

>libre party rejects the result
>says they want the election annulled because of fraud from the two party system and US interference
nothing ever happens


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HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
https://rainershea.substack.com/p/the-kke-is-pushing-labor-zionism
https://rainershea.substack.com/p/the-workers-movement-must-defeat
Every ML denied KKE being conservative tards, eat a dick now tankoid. Tankoid glob a big digg. XDXDXDDXDXDXD
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>>2587930
I literally dont care. Nothing to do with socialism.

>>2588317
>western Europe
Exactly, no one cares.

>>2588295
This is a compliment coming from the likes of y'all lmao

>>2588099
I've found this link in the article shared by OP: https://inter.kke.gr/en/articles/On-the-war-in-the-Middle-East/
but it said not existed (maybe this is also a controversial matter inside KKE)
Then I googled this term "kke on the war in the middle east" and have found this: https://www.solidnet.org/article/CP-of-Greece-IRS-of-the-CC-of-the-KKE-The-KKE-condemns-the-attacks-on-members-of-the-Communist-Party-of-Israel-and-the-Hadash-Front-by-fascists/
Maybe motivated by this assassination that KKE wrote (if that Shea guy is right):

<The KKE has expressed its full solidarity and support for the Palestinian people, for the need to have their own state and to be masters in their own land. At the same time, it emphasized that the the [sic] Israeli people are also a victim of the policies of the bourgeois state of Israel and the reactionary Netanyahu government. This statement was met with hostility by certain forces of the “World Anti-Imperialist Platform”, which do not recognize the existence of the state of Israel, nor the existence of the Israeli bourgeoisie and the Israeli people, calling it a US base that must be destroyed. These forces refuse to see that the root cause of everything that the peoples are experiencing is the barbaric exploitative system in its current stage, the monopoly one, where the struggle between the monopolies and the bourgeois classes is intensifying and is being waged by all means, for the exploitation not only of the workers of their countries but also of other countries for raw materials, transport routes for the commodities, geopolitical footholds and market shares. And the bourgeois state of Israel and its bourgeoisie is such a geopolitical foothold for the USA and the EU and not only a military base.

>>2587930
>K_KE
Why is the letter I missing here?


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So this video has been going viral recently and it’s made me ask: will the demand to designate doctors and nurses as “cops” and the move to abolish doctors, nurses, and hospitals as we know it be the next bullshit wedge issue to divide an already fragile left?

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DR2sZ0fD2DM/

Basically, she uses Silvia Federici and Michel Foucault to argue that doctors are oppressive, that hospitals are prisons, and that we should seek to go back to a time when witches and doulas were the main providers of healthcare through giving herbal medicines like mugwort and tree bark. She also claims doctors gatekeeper medical knowledge and every individual should take care of their own health without relying on professionals. She also says we need to be more “death positive” and just accept death instead of using medical treatments of offset it.

Personally, I find these types of sentiments dangerous, especially given how we just came out of a pandemic that killed at least 10 million people worldwide and many Americans die due to lack of healthcare access. Your thoughts? Are doctors and nurses the equivalent to cops,
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>>2588394
Probably me too. I wonder what she looks like naked?

>>2588393
would you rather your baby born at hospital where there is medical gear or your baby is born in a kiddy pool in your living room delivered by a girl with dreads whose only knowedge is to chew flowers and tea, burn incense, and rub crystals
if there are problems midwife River Song cant perform the care the infant or the mother needs.

>>2588388
based, less americans less exploitation of the third world

>>2587547
>he also says we need to be more “death positive” and just accept death instead of using medical treatments of offset it.
She is an eugenics shill, probably gets payed by porkies and private insurance companies. The point is to get rid of unwanted, less profitable workers quickly.
It can't get more fascist than this.

>>2587559
>>2587677
>>2587547
But she's right, I men I don't know if abolishing them is the way to go, communalizing them maybe, but doctors work for the corporations, they exist to diagnose people incorrectly so that corporations don't get sued, they barely know how to treat anything then get paid for just seeing you, it's pretty bad.


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