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why are people calling land a socialist?
he is an anarcho-capitalist

Philosophers hitherto

>>2582236
Think of it as a mapping, or an analytical lens that allows one to better understand socioeconomic movements. In this context, a territory is a stabilized and coherent pattern that defines common behavior, standards, rules, material configurations. Territories are never stable and are always under the influence of de-territorialization and re-territorialization. These are processes that see a territory dissolve, become more amorphous - norms losing value, practices changing. This loosening process of de-territorialization eventually leads to re-territorializing around a new territory, which may or may not radically differ from the original one and may or may not end in systemic collapse of the territory. The underlying assemblages of forces and factors that cause this are heterogeneous and can be social, economical, ecological, etc. Its also important to note that many territories exist, at different levels of abstraction, and ultimately can be seen as starting from the individual as the lowest atomic unit forming a territory.

The key takeaway here when compared to dialectics is that territorialization is far less dogmatic. There is no teleology that imposes a forward movement of history. This lens is by design non-definitive, but it does sketch out the principles by which structures change over time, ones which are more granular than what is provided by dialectical grand narratives.

>>2582237
Not necessarily true. I don't think anyone knows for certain if Putin is high off his own supply like Thiel is, or is just using Dugin as another node of globo-dumbass propaganda.

>>2582224
Can you explain how dialectics is a framework?

>>2582230
A disproportionate number of successful revolutionaries have been "decisive class traitors".

Professional revolutionaries and the masses they organize are different classes, read mao.

>>2582225
It is serious times. It's time to get serious.

>>2582233
Fine. Reading theory doesnt make one immune tho

>>2581953
>It will be over in a month, tops
Okay but he goes first

>>2581841
I don't understand the utility behind forcing her to read such a statement. Extracting a regular apology would have been enough to make his point, this just makes him look bad.

>>2573205
yes

Привет, пиздюки

It seems that there really is no escape from Dickblast. I ain't even mad.

>>2573816
АНАЛитическая пидоросня

>>2581779
One thing when you read about how the core of the Falangists' support were "students," this is the 1930s in Spain we're talking about where that coded strongly right-wing, sons of aristocrats, etc.

Another odd thing that doesn't get brought up much is aviation. The fascists were enthralled by aviation and there were famous aviators in different countries that joined fascist parties. In the Spanish case it was Julio Ruiz de Alda Miqueleiz (later shot by anarchists).

>>2581727
There's a funny moment where the Falange gets invited to ᴉuᴉlossnW's attempted "Fascist International" but Jose Antonio reiterated that Falangism isn't Fascism. Allegedly some of the anger that came from his followers was based on him being way less willing to commit to offensive violence when they really wanted to crack skulls. I think Ledesma actually used this as a critique of him and Mosley, that they were "soft" aristocrats who were concerned with high-minded ideals whereas the more "radical" and "working class" types (closer to Lumpen imo) wanted to beat people to death.

This sort of reminds me of how you'd previously get this divide in the right where establishment politicians would vaguely gesture towards whatever brainworms their base had, but wouldn't actually believe in them. Like they'd talk about small government and maybe throw a bone to the freaks that think the government is using chemtrails to make them gay. Well there'd be flare ups of contempt in the base because these "soft" old money WASP types want to do things like tort reform whereas they want a real shit-kicker who'll bring back corporeal punishment in schools. It's like "we don't give a fuck about your gay-ass business grant scheme, we want to elect the guy that stands outside of the local mosque screaming slurs"

>>2581726
So something about "rejuvenation" of the Bourgeoisie according to Sorel, as I understand it it's less "Oh they'll be better" so much as that when actual class conflict and violence declines, the Bourgeoisie sort of fall into mindless hedonism. Look at Musk, look at Altman, look at all these billionaires. They're jerking themselves off on pie-in-the-sky ideas, they're lazy, they're self-absorbed. The "rejuvenation" of the Bourgeoisie is more or less their class necessarily having to get its shit together to survive open class war. Elon Musk can't keep shitposting while paying Chinese dudes to play Path of Exile 2 for him when there's a genuine threat of open warfare from the proletariat, and if he tries he'll get his Darwin award. This isn't just localized either, the entire Bourgeoisie as a class would get a wake up akin to how a quiet suburb might be on guard if there's a brutal murder in their neighborhood.

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Nothing.

>>2582240
holy based

>>2582281
spain did not recognise israel until 1986

>>2582182
The CPUSA literally said that ww2 and the rise of Hitler was actually Rosa fault for not working with Ebert. This is total revisionism. This is fascist line par excellence

>>2582180
>>2582184
both can be true
if they were honest they could just come out and say "we think the best strategy right here and right now is to be the left wing of fascism" and most people here would agree

>>2582245
>>2582194
Put your trip back on felix

>>2582263
Yeah, it's called Marxism

>>2582180
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHHA

>>2582118
> I hope the Greens whoop them.
hobbyist who has no desire for radical politics.

>>2582113
>>2582118
You underrate the importance of staking out a general vibes-based position. Reform got away with obviously-not-happening economic policies (and Farage's recent "oh yeah there won't be big tax cuts after all" speech is the final forewarning that they're an establishment party, not an anti-establishment party) because they stake out the right general direction for some of the people they're trying to appeal to.
If every other party is saying you can't nationalize anything, there are merits to saying "nationalize everything" over saying "um, maybe renationalize the railways… like labour have already claimed to do… uhh…. you know if it's not too much trouble, we used to have public water too… maybe… oh… the bond markets don't like that? nevermind then…", you help drag the overton window in a direction where "nationalize something" is a sensible compromise rather than deranged ultraleftist wilsonite deviationism.

The left will not be taken seriously by the press whether it goes for option #1 or option #2. 1, however, is much easier to defend so long as you don't really care that you're bullshitting or going for a headline-catching maximallist "in 100 years" type demand because you know what you're really holding out for in 2029 is making a referendum on parliamentary sortition your condition for entering into coalition with the greens. It gives you the hammer that magically turns things into nails.
yeah yeah she's just running her mouth and not thinking it through, but the actual president of the USA uses the same strategy. maybe it'll crash and burn, but at least it's crashing and burning in a new way compared to re-running 2019.

>>2582211
This is kinda what I think about it.

Also the right has a broad smorgasboard of options to choose from for every indentation on the spectrum right from "hmmm dunno about those small boats, maybe unregistered people shouldn't be arriving in large numbers with no real processing mechanism" all the way to "send back everyone who can't trace their ancestry to william the conquerer, and then send them back as well, because he was french"

like that, they can energize different groups of people at different levels of radicalisation and get them engaged.

We've got our own centerists - the labourites, unfortunately, then you've got your well meaning normies with the right idea - the greens.

Now we've got the mass militant base - your party

and then the various sects provide the hardcore ideological debates that the rest don't engage with but are influenced by.

We've been missing that your party link between the normie base and the autists for a long time, which is why I am now entering bloomer era.

>>2582211
Im exactly agreeing with this anon, we should be saying what we mean and fighting back against those who doubt we should nationalize everything.

Let the people who are against it show who they are, enough of the sidestepping around what we actually want.

You "Asians" are so funny. My Grandpa's brother worked pro-bono to introduce you all to birth-control.

Jakarta takes #1 spot as largest city in the world

>>2407507
Yeah bro that woman and guy are three metres tall. Why are "white" americans so annoying when it comes to asians and other brown people? We in Europe don't do that shit, I think it stems from american inferiority complexes towards white Europeans.

>>2574007
not a thred for your family history, shut up.

>>2407507
sexpats

>>2582131
Yeah but to men so its not a big deal

>>2582128
Dude, Russians had the video first. There doesn't need to be a deep analysis

This is how Ukraine collapsing looks like for ziggers

Supporting Russia is a fascist position. Russia's current government is fascist and imperialist.

A real left-wing position is democratic socialism. This position would say that both the Ukrainian people and the Russian people should have democracy. If people in the Donbas and Crimea were to vote in a *free and fair* election or referendum to join Russia, then I think think they should be able to join Russia in that case. I certainly don't think the "referendums" which happened were free or fair though, given that they were held under occupation by armed militants, and there were reports of Russians being able to vote, and people being able to vote multiple times, etc.

Everyone who supports Russia's imperialist invasion of Ukraine is a fascist. It's that simple.