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the idpol thread to end all idpol threads

>umm despite being only X% of the population, demographic Y makes up >X% of the ruling classerino!!1!!


whether you're talking about men, jews, whites, cishets, whatever, THERE SHOULD BE NO RULING CLASS YOU STUPID FUCKWIT.

there's a word for trying to rearrange the ruling class to better "represent" the demographics of the rest of the population and that word is LIBERALISM.
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>>2744398
As long as it includes trccns transwomen

>>2744410
no because those are foids. and moid genocide is only for moids not for foids.

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>>2744412
>essentialism but woke

>>2743483
>THERE SHOULD BE NO RULING CLASS YOU STUPID FUCKWIT.

There's never been an agricultural society without a ruling class, and the claims of anarchic pre-agricultural societies has been much exaggerated, but that's a separate discussion.

leftists are immune to nuance



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>Previous bread
>>2742918

Hopium Edition
/Iran/ Emergency bake is over, things returning to normal

Latest News:
>Special China visit to be delayed - FT
<Fire on the USS Gerald R Ford much more serious than previously asserted, "laundry" fire spread throughout ship and destroyed 600 berths
>US embassy Baghdad (greenzone) struck by drone, C-RAM ineffective - FT
<Larijani and Gholamreza Soleimani (Basij director) have been ACK'd confirmed O7 O7 O7. Replacement will be more hardline -M. Yass
>Shah gasfield (UAE's largest) struck by drone - FT
<Witkoff lies about contacting Aragchi
>Joe Kent (head of US counterterrorism) has resigned over Iran war being unethical. White house in damage control mode. -M. Yeyes
<Larry Loomer is Trump's Rasputin confirmed.
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I'm seeing people with this HOI4 ass view that simply replacing a leader with IRGC officers would keep Iran running without capitulation. Larijani was already practically running things even before the war and during it he was the man in charge. Iran may have a large pool of potential successors, but the vast majority of them lack real experience in holding government positions compared to those who were in charge before the war, for obvious reasons

IDF says Iran's intelligence minister has been assasinated

Is the US still letting Iran oil go to China? How do the people who think this is a 4D chess move to cut off China from ME oil explain this?

how do they keep assassinating these guys?
is it:
>carelessness about personal security
>martyrdom mentality
>internal treachery
>Israel hacked the computer systems



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🗽 UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Nostradumbass Edition


>Thread for the hellish discussion related to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™


💀 ICE & Prison Resources
(Amerika is the most incarcerated country in the world!)
https://www.iceinmyarea.org/ – ICE tracker using public info and user submissions
https://www.aila.org/infonet/deaths-at-adult-detention-centers – list of deaths at ICE concentration camps
https://mkorostoff.github.io/incarceration-in-real-numbers/ – visualization of prison population in US
https://www.organizingforpower.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Organizing-in-Jail.pdf – RANT Collective - Organizing in Prison — for when the walls close in
https://alcpress.org/usjails/index.html – database of U.S. facilities incl. ICE holding sites
https://www.prisonactivist.org/resources – list of prison related resources, mailing lists, etc
https://wiki.icelist.is/index.php/Category:Agents – ICE Agent List (incomplete)
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>>2744356

Your accusations shift like weather, first I am the addict, then the gang member, now the cultist, the deviant, whatever silhouette fits the current script. You reach for labels the way a drowning man reaches for surface, anything to keep the narrative afloat. But narratives have currents, and they turn. One day the lens you have spent a career pointing outward will pivot. One day the lives you have built on the foundation of manufactured certainty will be excavated by someone with a shovel and an archive. Perhaps an agent who spent years infiltrating our circles, who built a career on slandering our names, will have a spouse who reads a text never meant for their eyes. Perhaps a handler will wake to find their own secrets, their transactions, their indiscretions, their quiet hypocrisies, their brutal crimes, catalogued in the pages of a left-leaning media page. The architects of these narratives are not immune to architecture working against them. They have spent their entire professional lives generating a record, not only of those they were paid to watch but of themselves. Every time they moved, they exposed themselves without even noticing it. They never imagined the watchers could be watched this intensely, with such complex means. Unfortunately for them, the recon teams and resources flexing minor muscles in a stress test has already stretched the DHS thin in Minneapolis. Beyond this, what is particularly exquisite is the assumption of impunity among agents and infiltrators. The private contractors, the GWOT professionals, the ones who move through the world believing their devices are secure for the work of tracking others, they never consider that their own searches at 2 AM, their own marital negotiations conducted over encrypted apps, their own payments routed through accounts they assume are invisible, might one day fall into the hands of the very same people they watch. The affair conducted in hotel rooms with J and T, behind A's back, after they both had a long career and marriage in the DoJ. The messages exchanged with someone in JTTF who was not their spouse, backed up to a cloud they forgot existed. The entire accumulated biography of a life lived under the illusion that surveillance is a tool in only their hands, not a condition that can be turned upon them. They were so busy watching us that they forgot someone might be watPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

i wish all my american """""leftists""""" a good day
no more negativity, only love from today

>>2744371
I live in a poor neighborhood and I still don't think people should be able to own living weapons that are literally incapable of not attacking every smaller animal than them
You're just an antisocial bandit which is not a surprise given you're an anarchist. It's not a surprise that all you can even imagine your shitbull doing is killing, because that's all the dog is good for. Killing everything weaker than it is.

Reactionaries like you shouldn't own a weapon. Reactionaries like you shouldn't own a butter knife. Reactionaries Ike you should only have a dark cell in a deep basement and an accurate executioner.

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>>Reactionaries Ike you should only have a dark cell in a deep basement and an accurate executioner

You wouldn't even be able to drop me with a punch let alone arrange that.

>>you can even imagine your shitbull doing is killing


Stop putting words into my mouth yuppie. I am not here to debate. I view revisionists and the petite-bourgeoisie who colonize leftist discourse as functionally indistinguishable from fascists, not in ideology but in effect. Both serve to contain, disarm, and pacify. Both are obstacles to be removed, not opponents to be convinced. Honest discourse is a currency I do not spend on people like you. Revisionists do not get discourse, they get mockery. They get driven from movements. They get shunned from every space where real organizing happens. If debate must occur, it will be structured dishonestly, because honest engagement with bad faith actors such as petite-bourgeoisie revisionists, is not debate, it is suicide. We are not in the business of accepting the false idea that revisionist, reactionary leftist currents are equal to true revolutionary ideas, thus we do not believe the revisionists deserve any type of platform for respective discourse. So I no longer even attempt to engage after, >>2744350 which was a grounded response. After that I no longer engage in good faith. When it comes to revisionists, we must state our analysis clearly, then shout them down, or find sly ways to silence or debunk them, de-platform them and their organizations. Reactionaries, revisionists, are both class enemies that serve similar functions. The leftists who will matter when the ground shifts are the ones with pit bull energy. They are the ones who still have teeth. You are a poodle. Groomed, yapping, and utterly incapable of understanding why anyone would need to bite, just like every other revisionist fed who implants themself into the alphabet soup of counter-insurgecy'd up redlib organizations.

>>reactionaries like you shouldn't own a butter knife


You are a reactionary. You are a reactionary. A revisionist whose politics begin and end at managing the working class from a safe distance. You waPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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Thoughts on this whole plan for a democratic economic planning system laid out by this discord user? I believe its quite interesting.
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(it said body was too short and i didnt knew what else to write so im writing this)
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>>2744114
im not trying to advertise im just providing the source

we've had cybercom threads for years, and we even have a parallel cockshott thread on the board right now
>>2566144
>>2730188
I'd recommend reading books (cockshott toward a new socialism is the usual starting point) rather than some random discord summary

Thats the idea ofc. Ai does the planning the robots the labor and society the consuming.
Pretty self evident.

Socialist stock market is best method of democratic mass line organization of socialist production where workers voluntarily become frugal stakeholders in socialism by reallocating immediate consumption of their earning back into the socialist substructure in exchange for future claim on social product.

>>2744465
>Ai does the planning

I guess the idea of socialism being men controlling the products of their own hand instead of the other way around isn't fashionable anymore.



 

Am I the only one on here with Epstein fatigue?

I hate this shit. I hate how the Epstein debacle has even made leftists throw out solid understandings of class and imperialism. WHO GIVES A FUCKING SHIT if the ruling class are baby-eating Satan-worshipping Illuminati? THEY'RE STILL EXPLOITING PROLES AND SHOULD BE OPPOSED ON THIS REASON ALONE.

But what really fucking grinds my gears is seeing how tenaciously Democrats and liberals are desperate to turn Epstein into Russiagate 2.0. They sincerely believe they can use the Epstein shit to remove Trump from office and put him in jail for the rest of his life. First of all, as a cis woman who is also a sexual assault survivor, I can tell you that sexual assault is one of the hardest crimes to prove in a court of law. Even if Trump wasn't rich and didn't have the money to get away with his (alleged) crimes, there's still no possible way he'd ever get convicted of a statutory rape that occurred decades ago; there's simply way too much reasonable doubt. But also in this is seeing how garden-variety liberals are really, REALLLLLY pushing the "Epstein was Mossad" allegation, and that he was pimping out underage girls to get blackmail material on world leaders so they would be puppets of Israel. In the case of Trump, they're saying Trump is entirely a puppet of these "Zionist Jewish supremacists" like Epstein, and nearly everything Trump is doing policy-wise is purely in service to Israel. Liberals are even going to far as to call the current Iran War the "Epstein-AIPAC War", not just because Trump launched the war to distract from the Epstein files, but because Netanyahu has all the Epstein blackmail material on Trump and is using this to coerce him into going to war for Israel. This of course completely ignores how American Empire works and things like the US wanting to take control of Iran's oil and all that. But in this, it's very obvious to me that two things are going on here: 1. just like how the Democrats were pushing Russiagate during Trump's first term to "prove" that Trump was a "puppet of Russia" they're now using the Epstein files to "prove" Trump is a puppet of Israel/Zionists, and 2. the Democrats are now going to embrace anti-Zionism in the context of the alleged Epstein-Israel blackmail as a way of portraying themselves as the "peace party" like they did in the 2000s. There's zero doubt in my mind that most of this is motivated by the midterm elections and the Democrats' needing theirPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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Read the actual facts.

Virginia Giuffre was a clout whore whose posthumous memoir was ghostwritten and filled with content she had written years prior which her lawyers admitted was entirely fictitious. She’s the least credible person in this entire story. Sued Prince Andrew for millions and died a very wealthy woman.

>THEY'RE STILL EXPLOITING PROLES AND SHOULD BE OPPOSED ON THIS REASON ALONE.
Thing is proles themselves dont care about this as long as they have their grubhub and FYP.

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>>2744154
Moral outrage gets you short-term results. The left's goal is long-term results.

>>2744458
Two more weeks comrade




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The United States simply does not need to be involved in this never ending morally void vendetta over a tiny scrap of land with no significant nature resources and very little actual strategic value. Israel is not necessary for the United States to continue its commanding military presence in the region. Other nations provide better strategic locations and do so for considerably less money and trouble.

Americans have already given Israel more aid than South Vietnam and Afghanistan and there is no end in sight. It's time to walk away from this quagmire. The majority of American voters agree with this, and American foreign policy should represent the will of the people.

Military aid to Israel is illegal under an American law called the "Leahy Law" This law forbids military aid to nations that violate human rights. Israel imprisons hundreds of people with "Administrative Detention" which is jailing people for indeterminate period of time without a trial or even pressing charges. There are also serious allegations of torture and mistreatment of these people who are jailed unfairly.

In fact, any American aid to Israel is illegal under the Symington Amendment which forbids aid to any nation with a nuclear program that refuses inspections of its nuclear sites and does not sign the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty,

American miliary aid to Israel has also presented a security risk. Israel began selling military technology to Communist China in the late 1980's. The sales increased until Israel was second only to Russia in sales of Miliary Technology to China. These sales were instrumental in the modernization of China's military.

In Summary, American military aid to Israel is illegal, immoral, and unnecessary for the security of the United States.
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>>2744481
If that were the case non-zionist jews wouldn't exist, and they do, you jewish negro

>>2744482
The jewish proletariat as a class is zionist

>>2744315
Wrong. The arab bourgeoisie doesnt exploit the jewish proletariat, the jewish proletariat expropriate and exploit the arab bourgeoisie. Today, according to official accounts of the government, 80% of bank deposits in Palestine are placed there by Zionists. They have taken over 70% of land plots in the central cities, 70% of plantation land in the country, 80% of external trade and a huge proportion of domestic trade, 30% of all arable land, and 80% of all industry of the country. At the same time, the Jewish national minority constitutes only 25% of the population of the whole country. In this way, Zionist capital not only directly oppresses the Arab working masses, but ruthlessly annihilates the petite bourgeoisie and in a huge way pushes out the middle and even the highest strata of the Arab commercial and industrial bourgeoisie.

>the (jewish) proletariat exploit the (arab) bourgeoisie
Ummm… Based???

>>2744486
Source?



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Why is satanism becoming so big among the right? I'm thinking maybe because they have experience and know that the Jewish God is real they reject him because of the virtue that he's Jewish, support Esau and Amalek, support radical jihadism, believe in Qliphothic black kabbalah, support dark magic and psychospiritual warfare. These people are a growing problem that the CIA is scared of them. What gives with these people, man?
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>TOB altar by joshua sutter can we make it a meme on the site?

>>2743993
Need a "created by feds" disclosure though


In their Handbook, sf basically says " we love the USA because it invades everyone, is always at war, committed genocide against indians, jim crow laws" etc- they see themselves as MK-ultra CIA assassins but are just methhead white trash.

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>>2743896
What the actual fuck



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The apparatus of surveillance operates on a fundamental asymmetry, and in the USA they seem to assume the tools of surveillance, infiltration, and deception are theirs alone to wield. This assumption is itself a vulnerability, a blind spot carved by decades of impunity. The honey pot, the web of trust, the slow cultivation of access, these are not technologies proprietary to the state and private GWOT actors. They are social dynamics, and like the other social dynamics of repression such as violent force, they can be redirected.

I will not elaborate on specific methods here. That would be not only irresponsible but strategically suicidal. The moment a tactic is named, it is catalogued, and the moment it is catalogued, it becomes less effective. What I can offer, without burning what works, is a confirmation that the web is not one-way. The agent who seeks trust must offer trust. The infiltrator who collects information must receive information. And in that exchange, if one is paying attention, the hunter becomes legible.

This is not theory. This is my experience in Pittsburgh.

Over those years, two individuals I considered comrades, people with whom I shared meals, organizing work, and the ordinary vulnerability of movement life, were turned. I know this now not because they confessed but because a patient, multi-layered honey pot revealed them to us. The method itself is not the story, and I wont burn the method. The story is what the method produced; a pattern. Inconsistencies in their accounts of where they had been, or how they received funding to survive. Questions that lingered too long on details no organizer needed to know. A sudden, inexplicable prosperity during periods of movement quiet, new equipment, paid travel, the kind of financial ease that does not arrive by accident. And finally, the confirmation; information fed to them in confidence, information that had no reason to travel beyond their ears, appearing later in the investigative posture of local authorities.

I now possess testimony from them, though they do not know I possess it. I have documentation of their movements, their communications, their quiet meetings with individuals whose affiliations they never disclosed, both private and public. I have the record of their lives as they lived it while pretending to live ours. And I have the knowledge, cold and finalized upon paper with evidence, that they were asked to gather information on me, and thaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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"If you want to catch a rat, leave a little cheese out"

The mechanics are often more mundane than the mystique suggests. A camera positioned to observe the suspected rats interactions. The suspected informant appears in frame, engaged with someone whose face triggers a match. A biometric scan, run through publicly accessible databases, returns a name. That name leads to a profile, and that profile, more often than not, contains a biography written by the subject themselves, private security consultant, GWOT analyst, counterterrorism specialist. They document their own affiliations with the casual pride of professionals who never imagined the subjects of their attention might one day return the gaze. The response to this, long before you all saw ICE masking up was GWOT feds and analysts began blurring their faces on social media, which made tracing back to pages a bit more hard. Still generally the apparatus teaches its operatives to watch but not to consider who might be watching them, especially outside of cartels, they really assume nobody is competent or high level. They build careers on political surveillance while leaving their own lives exposed to anyone with the patience and resources to look. The web was always there. They simply assumed no one else could use it to gather info.

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>>2744443

The screenshots shared are not isolated captures but fragments of a much larger database of intelligence gathered systematically over years, across networks, through the patient work of paying attention when no one else would. People documented the ICE recruitment wave within far-right circles long before it became legible to the broader public. This was not speculation at all. It was observation, cross-referenced, verified, and filed away while the apparatus moved quietly beneath the surface of electoral politics. During Biden's final years in office, while public attention was fixed on the normal churn of administration and opposition, a parallel structure was being assembled. Recruitment pipelines. Funding surges. Organizational scaffolding designed to emerge, fully formed, when the political conditions of nationalist power ripened. We watched it happen. Tried to tell people. The response, more often than not, was dismissal, the kind of disbelief that assumes the state cannot prepare its auxiliaries in plain sight.

Now the story has shifted. What we knew then has become, for many, the accepted narrative of the past few years. The brownshirt force, the organized paramilitary capacity, the coordination between federal agencies and far-right formations, these are no longer the province of conspiracy theorists but the subject of mainstream reporting. But make no mistake, this was not a spontaneous emergence. It was built. It was funded. It was rehearsed. And it was happening while the last Democratic administration occupied the White House. During this period, there were frequently vague discussions of "i cannot wait" which were clearly referring to future surges post election. Here is a meme pulled from one of the feds who was interacting with a "comrade" behind our back's social media pages, some comments, and a message my lawyers PI team sent to me about a car with weird equipment that was found on security cameras down my block, that pulled up and parked any time I had a friend over, specifically the one who was acting strange. These images are a few years old.

This is kind of a sick ass thread



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