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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
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<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

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busted

>>2571053
>sweden
probably a VPN. IDK if it's still as common but a lot of this stuff used to base in sweden for their servers because of more favourable privacy laws in theory.

>>2571053
If a "third world" communist peddles religion, nativism, their traditions, etc., know that they are a diasporoid.

Actual third world communists tend to be opposite: hate religion and tradition because they have to actually deal with it.

>>2570258
>average DSA member cares only about signalling to others that they are part of the DSA
To say that of BRG of all people shows how out of touch of reality you are.

>>2571058
but there are also many iraqi people in sweden. He could have been there to visit family on holiday. Or he could be a swede larping as a iraqi. Or maybe 'HAKIM' is a project of Swedish Military Intelligence and Security Service to rope in unsuspecting young people for whatever reason.



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
< Bismarck & Lassalle Edition

🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
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>>2571005
Mamdani is smart for just accepting and smiling. Fascist doesn't work as an insult anymore. The argument could be made that it never worked. Socialists in Europe haven't caught up.

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>>2570698
>working with
<literally a vibe check meeting
Seeing the blatant disinformation around the meeting has lead to me to believe the DSA is a genuine threat to Capital because nothing else would rationalize or justify this massive glow psyop against them

>>2570805
>agriculture is only dependent on soil
aaah, the burger education system

had a dream the us tried to kill khamenei

>>2570702
TRVKE
Oppurtunist Leftypolians will try and tell you otherwise



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Oh no no no, ziobros

man I have been reading https://gitee.com/openharmony/docs/blob/master/en/application-dev/quick-start/start-with-ets-stage.md and I'm seriously considering porting the declarative ui thingy (or a subset of it) to wayland and x11. it's so much better than the new android ui api where they force you to use the sdk designer because they have completely given up on textual representation

>>2570916
two more weeks

>>2570211
>rural is more pro-cpc than the city dwellers according to harvard studies because they're seeing more rapid transformation in recent times.
Yeah, basic 19th century capitalist development with 21st century moral ideas. Good. But not socialism. And inevitable to fall into neoliberalism.

>>2570759
Yeah, I think any sane Japanese person would see what she did as a LARP. Japan posing a serious threat to China? Like come on dude lmao



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>Europoor

It's becoming increasingly clear that the majority of proles in Europe and North America are being brainwashed by their phones into believing immigration is the biggest issue in their countries. I have largely ignored this issue, as I don't really think it matters but then, last night, there was a lumpen riot in Dublin against an IPAS centre in which a foreign national who had been denied asylum and was told to "self-deport" had apparantly raped a 10 year old girl who was under state care. I usually don't believe a lot of the lies told about "migrants" online but this case makes me feel particularly uncomfortable.

It was a clear failure from the neoliberal Irish government and it's institutions that allowed something like this to happen. Why wasn't this man deported immediately after being denied asylum? Too expensive, apparently. Why was this man allowed to be in a situation where he could sexually abuse a child? Why is this man in my country in the first place? Ofc, the Free State institutions are keeping silent on it, pissing off people even more.

So, how do leftists feel about immigration and the current asylum process? Obviously, I understand this wouldn't be an issue if western corps weren't raping the third world but I also think there is a discussion to be had. Are open borders in the current world really working? Would they work post-capitalism? How do you feel about immigration, positively or negatively?
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>>2571026
you appear to not be answering the question. formally, can you both (1) oppose capitalism and (2) oppose mass immigration? its a yes or no. i say yes, you imply no, but are too hesitant to announce it.

just say, as i have explained, that to you, cheap labour is a necessary evil to fighting racism, and the desire to raise wages at the expense of immigrants is reactionary - since as you have already affirmed, communism is supposedly not actually in the interests of labour, and so the interests of capital are progressive, since they force the ultimatum of the "two options" ive highlighted; hitlerism or the melting pot.

>>2571031
My brother in Christ, only a liberal would fall for your retarded framing of the situation, I gave you an actual communist response. Communists aren’t liberal bullshitters which is why we don’t respond with campaign slogans.

>>2571034
every other question was swiftly answered except this one: can you both (1) oppose capitalism and (2) oppose mass immigration?

just say "no" if you dont think so.
get it over with.

>>2571037
That wasn’t what you asked to begin with, the answer is obviously no, only a retarded racist actually thinks in these terms lmao

>Can you oppose capitalism while begging porky to slaughter other workers for being shitskins so I can magically receive a higher wage (as a reward or smth? idk) and therefore have no actual reason to organize against capitalism?

No, next stupid shitty question?

>>2571051
>That wasn’t what you asked to begin with
here's my original question: >>2571000
>can you be a leftist and also be against mass immigration, or must you support it to be a leftist?
to which you claimed that communism ≠ leftism, for which i clarified the question to substitite "communist" for "leftist", which you refused to answer, and finally i replace "communist" with anticapitalist, which you respond to. so all in all, you think hitler exists on the political left and this was the flaw in the question.

as for saying "no", is it then of consequence (by definition) that to oppose capitalism, one must necessarily support mass immigration, and the desire to regulate immigration makes one reactionary? the answer is yes by your own admission. so then, the interests of capital are somehow anticapitalist - this is where contradiction appears; yet, you claim that communism is both against workers and capitalists, so that must be how you square the circle.



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>>2570907
Shits falling for year…

>>2570922
Very nice, now send him to the front

>>2570924
Kiev has also technically been falling by nafo standards.

Mood status?

>>2570924
>Settlement invaded and conquered in around a month
>Already shouting <Settlement here> hodls! For a year prior
>Keep shouting it until literally Ukraine holds a single apartment block on the outskirts
<Once all of your troops have been vanquished, claim the settlement was never important
They can’t keep getting away with this!



 

Can we talk about the new revelations about Noam Chomsky and Jeffrey Epstein?

>The prominent linguist and philosopher Noam Chomsky called it a “most valuable experience” to have maintained “regular contact” with Jeffrey Epstein, who by then had long been convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor, according to emails released earlier in November by US lawmakers.


>Such comments from Chomsky, or attributed to him, suggest his association with Epstein – who officials concluded killed himself in jail in 2019 while awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges – went deeper than the occasional political and academic discussions the former had previously claimed to have with the latter.


>Chomsky, 96, had also reportedly acknowledged receiving about $270,000 from an account linked to Epstein while sorting the disbursement of common funds relating to the first of his two marriages, though the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor has insisted not “one penny” came directly from the infamous financier.


>The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.


>Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails

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>>2570904
>If he didn't rape kids, why should we care?
Even if Chomsky didn't touch any kids [ or didn't Used Epstein's services for sex], a number of questions still remain

1. Why was Epstein one Chomsky's contacts?
2. The nature of Chomsky's relationship with Epstein?
3. What did Chomsky know of Epstein's character?

Chomsky must have also known about Epstein's criminal allegations at the time [He reads after all]. And I believe he was asked about this in an interview, and his response was along the lines of some sort of higher principle of innocent until proven guilty.

The fact you were proven to be in contact with Epstein, Noam, makes your "higher principle" viewpoint rather suspect and hollow.

>>2571035
I will add, the reason to care about this, is because Chomsky is a well known public intellectual, who has influenced generations of leftists, and political science types. The fact that Chomsky had contacts with Epstein, brings into question Chomsky's entire political and moral character.

>>2571035
>1. Why was Epstein one Chomsky's contacts?
Because he was a fixer with connections to the state institution Chomsky is a member of.
Honestly the most interesting thing about the revelations is that they've made chomsky's connections to power very clear.
>>2571035
>Chomsky must have also known about Epstein's criminal allegations at the time [He reads after all]. And I believe he was asked about this in an interview, and his response was along the lines of some sort of higher principle of innocent until proven guilty.
It was worse than that, iirc, it was under the principle of 'a man who has served his time…' and etc.

He had an open Epstein connection for many years before this and I got banned once for posting it because the mods are dipshits. I believe the story was focused on Chomsky helping Epstein with some financial stuff, which he downplayed though now we know for sure he was covering his own ass.

>1. How could any principled anarchist be friends with a billionaire?

He was never principled. He was a staunch defender of the DNC which is inherently statist.

>2. I get that Chomsky radicalized a lot of American Gen Xers and Millennials.

Did he? Everyone I see that holds onto him are liberals. Even Foucault had a better knowledge of social relations under Capitalism than Chomsky. Saying bad things about Israel (low hanging fruit) doesn't make you a radical. The most radical thing he ever did was his uncritical defense of Pol Pot.

As an entry into radical politics, then yeah sure maybe I see your point. I just don't think enough people actually move beyond him. I feel like someone like Zizek has done way more for that and he gets endlessly criticized (by reactionary campists so who gives a fuck) unlike Chomsky.

>3. Was Chomsky always sus?

As I said, the Epstein connection was already known. I have no objective opinion of his linguistic system but I find it completely uninteresting and his attempts to fuse it with political theory to be right alongside astrology. I'm sure it's amazing in that field, which I know nothing about, but I know his attempts to branch it out like in his Foucault debate.

>4. How do you think Michael Parenti and Slavoj Zizek are taking this news?

No opinion on Parenti but I don't think Slavoj is going to really comment on it. Finklestein had a similar situation where a previous rival got exposed as a nonce-defender and he didn't really shove his nose into it. It's just a bad look.

>>2570854
>Can we talk about irrelevant shit
no
who the fuck cares. Chomsky work in linguistic and propaganda analysis is still good, and he isnt a political leader

>1. How could any principled anarchist be friends with a billionaire?

what kind of idiotic moralistic cunt think politics is some purity olympic forbidding relation with the upper classes ? was marx not a principled communist because he was bff with a bourgeois ?

>how will this stain his reputation?

again, who the fuck cares, he is almost dead anyway, and furthermore theres literally nothing incriminating in what you just posted. Yeah intellectuals often beg money to billionaires, nothing new

>Is this a case of "live long enough to be the villain"

no

>How do you think Michael Parenti and Slavoj Zizek are taking this news

who fucking cares, you're obsessed with isg tier eceleb drama bs



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>>2571038
Well, the middle class in modern Russia is deprived of a lot of things because of the sanctions and bandits

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>>2571036
The interesting thing about the USSR is that if you had even a million rubles, you can't spend it on something elite because it doesn't exist. maximum furniture from Yugoslavia


>>2571020
It was appartment, I live in one. The building were built for a factory that is close. Also, you could get a loan at 0% for building a house, at some time.

On queues.. yes, given there were not so many grocery stores. She say one day green pea could dissappear or things like that. Clothes… go and buy hand made clothes. What you buy now is made in a more automated way. In some thread about old jeans/workers clothes, you can still buy them but it will be $150 or more.

USSR was better, you could work and study. The work day was 8 h and no more if you did not want to. Also the only country/union where reducing work time was in constitution - that is more important or HIGH BAR lol. Everything else is dependent on automation possibility/labor productivity.



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If fascisms is capitalist response to a mass organized communist movement, and Trump is arguably a fascist and pushing for fascism, where is the organized communist movement of our day?
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Fascism (Italian fascismo, from fascio — bundle, union, association) is a political movement that arose in capitalist countries during the period of the general crisis of capitalism and expresses the interests of the most reactionary and aggressive forces of the imperialist bourgeoisie. Fascism in power is the terrorist dictatorship of the most reactionary forces of monopolistic capital, carried out with the goal of preserving the capitalist system. The most important distinguishing features of fascism are the use of extreme forms of violence to suppress the working class and all working people, militant anti-communism, chauvinism, racism, extensive use of state-monopolistic methods of regulating the economy, maximal control over all aspects of social and personal life, broad connections with a significant portion of the population not belonging to the ruling classes, and the ability—through nationalist and social demagogy—to mobilize and politically activate this population in the interests of the exploitative system (the mass base of fascism consists mainly of the middle strata of capitalist society). Fascist foreign policy is a policy of imperialist conquest.

The common features inherent in fascism as a political movement do not exclude the existence of various forms determined by the degree of predominance of political or militarist forces. The predominance of militarist forces is characteristic of military-fascist regimes.

>>2570929
In the struggle to create a mass social base, fascism put forward a system of views (the so-called fascist ideology), which made extensive use of reactionary doctrines and theories that had developed before its appearance (the racist ideas of J. A. de Gobineau, J. V. de Lapouge, H. Chamberlain, etc.; the anti-democratic concepts of F. Nietzsche and O. Spengler; antisemitism; geopolitics, pan-Germanism, etc.).

At the center of fascist ideology are the ideas of military expansion, racial inequality, “class harmony” (the doctrine of the “people’s community” and “corporatism”), leadership cult (“the Führer principle”), and the all-powerfulness of the state apparatus (the theory of the “total state”). These ideas found their most concentrated expression in Adolf Hitler’s book Mein Kampf (1925). A very significant characteristic of fascist ideology is loud demagogy aimed at masking its true content. Serving this goal, in particular, was the speculative use by fascists of the popularity of socialist ideas among the masses.

Emerging as a reaction to the revolutionary upsurge heralded by the Great October Socialist Revolution in Russia, fascism became a fierce and dangerous enemy of all progressive humanity and above all of the international revolutionary workers’ movement. The first fascist organizations appeared in spring 1919 in Italy in the form of paramilitary squads composed of nationalistically minded former frontline soldiers. In October 1922, the fascists—who had become a major political force—staged an armed “March on Rome,” which provided the ruling circles of Italy with a pretext for appointing the leader of the Italian fascists (“Duce”), Benito ᴉuᴉlossnW, as prime minister on 31 October 1922. Over the next four years, the fascist leadership gradually eliminated bourgeois-democratic freedoms and established the absolute power of the fascist oligarchy. In the 1930s Italy completed the creation of a corporate state, which contributed to the militarization of the Italian economy. The democratic trade-union movement and the economic and political gains of the working class were abolished. ᴉuᴉlossnW’s government pursued an increasingly active policy of imperialist expansion. In 1935 fascist Italy launched a war against Ethiopia, and after conquering it (1936) took part in the intervention against Republican Spain (1936–1939); in Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2570930
The German fascist National Socialist Party arose in 1919 (the official name — National Socialist German Workers’ Party — reflected the desire of its organizers to exploit the influence of socialist ideas among German workers in the interests of extreme reaction). Amid a deepening political crisis, relying on support from major monopolies and forming an alliance with influential circles in the Reichswehr leadership, the leader (“Führer”) of German fascists, Adolf Hitler, received a mandate to form a government in late January 1933. By staging the Reichstag fire and blaming the communists (see Leipzig Trial, 1933), the German fascists within a few months completely “synchronized” the country, unleashing bloody terror on all democratic and liberal currents, imprisoning and physically eliminating all real and potential opponents of the Nazi regime. After the Communist Party, the Social Democratic Party and all traditional bourgeois parties were banned. All public organizations—especially trade unions—were dissolved; parliament was stripped of its prerogatives; all forms of public oversight over the state administration were abolished. The dictatorship mechanism created by National Socialism included a terror apparatus marked by extreme brutality (SA, SS, the Gestapo, the “People’s Court,” and other organs of fascist justice), an apparatus for organizing influence on the population (the National Socialist Party, the National Socialist Women’s League, the Hitler Youth, the German Labor Front, the “Strength Through Joy” organization, etc.), which controlled all forms of public activity, as well as an apparatus for propaganda control of the masses (headed by the Ministry of Propaganda). In close alliance with the military leadership, Hitler's government carried out a rapid militarization of Germany. A course was immediately taken toward militarizing the economy, accompanied by the implementation of various forms of state-monopolistic regulation (state investments, primarily for military purposes; tax policy; credit policy and planned inflation; administrative control over economic development; forced syndicalization or cartelization of industry; creation of new associations of monopolists, etc.). International agreements limiting Germany’s armaments were broken, and a series of aggressive acts were carried out to strengthen the military-strategic positPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2528259
Trump isn't fascist. He is a liberal. ACP is fascist, and will become popular when the communist movement starts to grow.

>>2571043
Haz is the American ᴉuᴉlossnW.
Screencap this



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