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someone also replied with this

>My grandparents are like that, they have photos of Abdel Nasser and his family in their living room, treating him like a Saint. But if you were to ask them anything about actual Arab nationalist philosophy, they wouldn't know. All my grandparents know is that things were better back then, my Granddad would be provided a job that supported his family and there wasn't any filth on the streets. To a large extent, things were indeed better back then and that's just how it is for most people, these people believe and worship the State and the Leader, they don't give a shit about Ideology. As long as it's not openly 'heretical' to the values of people, the masses will believe in it
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>>2422283
the president/congress controls US foreign policy not the price of commodities on the world market 2/10 gothca

>>2334358
I'm too autistic to succumb to peer pressure.

If the masses don't want to reckon with their own stupidity, they will reckon with their own extinction.

Or do you think being a brainlet carries no consequence?

>>2576863
Not that guy, but obviously, the point he and I want to make is that we need to be pragmatic and adopt realistic approaches. As capitalism collapses we have to work within the new systems. The real end result will probably be some form of Caudillismo and strongman rule, and Socialists and Communists will need to learn to work within that

>>2576893
The unfortunate truth is that fascism is historically progressive compared to liberal democracy.

>>2168080
>that fucking text
Please don't post AI slop on my board



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Black Friday Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
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The USA is fascist.

>>2576884
Neocolonialist. Too unproductive for fascistic expansion.

>>2576884
Too fat to be fascist.

If I'm in the top 1% of wealth holders (not 0.01% ultra-wealthy, just upper middle class) can I still be socialist?

>>2576852
art
nice rick and morty hair cut in the tumbnill



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>>2576652
True true, basically what's currently happening in Africa are the first stages of rapid industrialization, as Africa now demands that ressource extracting firms transfer the first steps of the refining process to the African continent itself. The next escalation will be the capitalists failing to resist that delicious and gigantic, young African labor pool, so they will outsource all manufacturing steps to Africa, and by then it will be too late. They will scream how Africans firms copy them and only produce junk, just how they complained about China, and South Korea and Japan before them and at the beginning it was Britain complaining about Germany. But by then you will know for certain that Africa has industrialized.


>>2576652
>what can the west even offer?
Since late 80's western industries have had time to adjust into outsourcing industries into China. Special high-tech manufacturing was kept home while anything mass produced was outsourced into cheap labor 3rd world countries. Engineers built cars in germany and airplanes in USA while rest of the workforce was employed on the service sector. Now this is changing as China has become a dominat force in electric vehicles and other high tech products. West is losing even its high tech product to better and cheaper Chinese ones.


>elect right wing "ultra-nationalist" into government
<Ends up becoming a bigger cuck to AmeriKKKan Imperialism than the previous neoliberal centrist ghouls
Many such cases!



 

/US-Venezuela war/ #3
>Third Heaven Edition

Previous Thread Archives
#1 https://archive.ph/4Dq3L
#2 https://archive.ph/sntTt

Previous thread: >>2539692

Thread in which we discuss the latest aggression-based-on-lies by the USA against a country which did not attack it.
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AmeriKKKa knows their time as the global hegemon is over: they realized they can't beat China economically, militarily or technologically. Russia killed their dreams of perpetual NATO expansion and the EU little by little is searching for alternatives to their US masters.
Hence why they have decided to secure their fiefdom in the western hemisphere: El Salvador, Argentina and Ecuador are puppet states in everything but name, an invasion of Venezuela and Greenland is inevitable and consent-manufacturing for regime change in Mexico, Colombia and Brazil is brewing every day.
In short, critiKKKal support for Super Bigote against AmeriKKKan expansion.

>>2576857
But do you think America has the balls to do it knowing a bad reaction from Europe or South Korea/Japan would absolutely rape their struggling economy?

>>2575915
>nothing short of threatening nuclear war could meaningfully be done by these allies to directly prevent an invasion or airstrikes, so thats a weird ass comment.

>>We have given a sizeable amount of anti-ship (no nukes, rest assured) missiles to our allies business partners at Venezuela. You know the kind, those what have you worried about aircraft-carriers on the pacific. Anti air as well.

>>There is also a few hundred of our personnel there for reasons other than to operate the equipment, as you well know with NATO missiles that fire from Ukraine.
>>If you invade or if its otherwise made obvious that our investments or personnel are being threatened, we told *Venezuela* to launch those missiles at high value targets. As a deterrent, and a weapons test. Again, like Ukraine, all very legitimate and above board.
>>Also, we are told that several opposition figures and the businessmen behind them, within Venezuela, have suffered very unfortunate accidents as of recent. It is a shame how dangerous this place is getting.
>>Have fun on your second and last Vietnam
>>Signed: China & Russia.

>>2576851
Russia is too busy dropping ICBMs on themselves to worry about brown people on the other side of the world.

>>2576891
Funny, because they seem to have cared about the black people on the other side of the world in Africa for a while during the invasion. Or have you not been paying attention?



 

"turns out conservatives and reactionaries are just dumb after all" edition.

news:
- Your Party is suing itself, more at 11.
- The SNP and Plaid are going to form a "progressive alliance" somehow
- The government's going to do a switcheroo by raising income tax slightly and cutting national insurance to balance it out. (But they won't - follow this to its logical conclusion and scrap NI entirely)
- They're also considering cutting VAT on energy bills (which is the least efficient way of lowering bills you can imagine)
- The board of deputies asked Aston Villa for free footy tickets. In a worrying sign of rising antisemitism, Aston said nah.
- Labour is falling behind the Greens in the opinion polls as their strategy of copying Reform drives away their already-begrudging supporters without winning over any Reform voting reprobates. Nobody could have predicted this.
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This conference better have the best work-in-progress manifesto I've ever heard or I'm officially going dooming "save me Xi" isolation mode.

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>>2576856
It's going to be abysmal dogshit, i'm sorry.
At this point all the left-wing sects doing a joint coup at conference might be the only thing that can save us from the corbyn-boomer kumbaya eternal nightmare

we can't even do democratic socialism right

>>2576881
The fuck kinda choices are these?

To Me Party
To You Party



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Are there any books defending the (for lack of a better word) "authoritarianism" of the USSR/DPRK and China?

A lot of the defenses of these countries I've seen from Marxists is to try and say they're not as authoritarian as we think or try and show how capitalist countries are equally or more authoritarian. But as someone who sees no problem with it is there any actual defense of the Communist Party having a strong influence?
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Losurdo comes to mind. Stalin a black legend has a lot of moments like that.

>>2576215
>Blackshirts and Reds is a pretty good one,
It was a dissapointment to me but im not trying to defend authoritarian socialism.

>>2576548
>authoritarian socialism
Buzzword

>>2576621
OP already prefaces "for a lack of a better word" you twitter brained troglodyte.

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Very recentely (2012) brought from state archives, the book of 1965:
https://www.marxistleninists.org/Soviet%20Archives/Molotov%20Letter%20to%20the%20CC%20of%20CPCU/part%201.htm

%%Questions of History, 2011, issues 1-6, 8-11; 2012, issues 1, 3.

The funniest thing is that this document may not belong to Molotov, but to Malenkov, as stated in one of the notes to the publication.
Nevertheless, the magazine calls it Molotov's letter.
This document appears as Molotov's letter to the Central Committee of the CPSU (1964). Published in the magazine Questions of History, issues 1-6, 8-11 for 2011, and issues 1, 3 for 2012. The editorial preface states the following:

Publishing the document stored in the Russian State Archive of Socio-Political History (RGASPI, f. 82, op. 2, d. 198a) V. M. Molotov's manuscript on the personality cult of I. V. Stalin and other problems of party and state life, the editors of the journal "Questions of History" were guided by the desire to publicize the views of one of the leader's closest associates. Molotov bears considerable responsibility for the crimes of the Stalin regime.

Much of the manuscript is devoted to criticism of N. S. Khrushchev and his rule, while it contains a description of many events and facts that are interpreted from the position of a convinced Stalinist.

The publication of V. M. Molotov's manuscript, one must assume, will provoke controversial judgments among readers both regarding the assessment of many events and individuals, and regarding the position of the author himself. There is no doubt, however, that this material will also serve to establish the historical truth in its entirety.

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>>2576874
Ukraine doesn't even have a navy.

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>>2576874
they have like hundreds of these tankers. yes? what about them?

>>2576871
Sanctioned? Can’t you just blow up whatever you suspect is owned by a nation you’re not at war with officially but just don’t like?

>>2576879
probably some hohols at it with drones. nafoids trying to cope with the fact ukraine has 0 of those, while believing they did did something to one of the largest oil taker/goods tankers fleet on earth.



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Pics are Bambidbar/Numbers 31:13-18. If you are a christcuck or jew, you by definition believe that the Torah or the Torah fanfic that is the bible is the infallible word of God. These books say that when you take a town, you should kill every single person in them besides the young girls which you take as sex slaves. Why do we let these lunatics in left-wing spaces? Sure, you can make a "progressive" interpretation of these books if you erase enough words, but you can do the same with Mein Kampf. There's a reason why Marx and Lenin were so anti-religion, which modern postmodernist "communists" seem to have forgotten.
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>>2576506
I can't believe he'd let those heretical Manicheans get away with it.

islam and judaism have been racialised, so you arent allowed to criticise them (you can even go to jail fir blasphemy laws in the west).

>>2576196
>that's just like how it was back then and stuff, don't overthink it
Have you ever noticed that this argument can be, and will be used in perpetuity, whether talking about something 3500 years ago, or talking about something 50 years ago?

>>2576196
" But what sort of imitation of God is praised among the Hebrews? Anger and wrath and fierce jealousy. For God says : "Phinehas hath turned away my wrath from the children of Israel, in that he was jealous with my jealousy among them." For God, on finding one who shared his resentment and his grief, thereupon, as it appears, laid aside his resentment."

- Julian the Aposthate, 363 "against the Galileans"
Clearly even people back then criticised the abrahamists for this.

>>2576802
>so you arent allowed to criticise them
bruh have you never seen how mainstream media and hollywood in the west talks about them evil muslamics lmao constantly bringing in some "islam experts" who are just yakubian stooges trying to justify why its actually ok to bomb muslims and steal their ressources. if most muslims werent brown i think nobody would actually care about islam and it would just be treated like christianity



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