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>>2567041
imagine still losing to a failed nazi state 3x smaller than your country lol.

>>2567040
The declaration of war. The first move of open warfare. The first missile fired.

>>2567025
i don't want to be burger anymore

>>2570886
拯救我们吧，习主席
解放我们吧，习主席
我不想再当美国人了
拯救我们吧，习主席
光荣属于中国共产党

i went to pick up my boomer mother in law who was hammered at a local bar and there was 2 zoomer women about to fight, 1 white girl and 1 hispanic girl, and they were both doing that kind of pic related thing while a crowd held them both back, but the white girl was crashing out way harder and yelling way louder and kept trying to break free of the people restraining her. It took me 5 extra minutes to leave because I came with someone else and let them have my keys while I drove my mother in law home in her car, which she was too drunk to drive.

Point is, the cops ended up getting called and blocking the place off, and then two dudes almost started arguing over whether it was "ethical" to "restrain a woman" which was just mega retarded, like yeah, of course it's a good thing to hold back a drunk person who's about to assault another drunk person and get arrested… one of the dudes was like "GOD WILL JUDGE YOU BRO."

Anyway, Americans are dumb. That is my burgerpunk story of the weekend.

>>2570867
>the cops ended up getting called and blocking the place off, and then two dudes almost started arguing over whether it was "ethical" to "restrain a woman" which was just mega retarded, like yeah, of course it's a good thing to hold back a drunk person who's about to assault another drunk person and get arrested

to be clearer, the two dudes were arguing BEFORE the cops showed up, they weren't arguing against arresting anyone, but arguing with each other of the "ethics" of holding "a woman" back when cops are not there.

bro got the MF Doom treatment

>>2570619
I think it's simpler, they dont think and rely on their subconscious to decide.
They dont go through the motions and angles of thinking through what that means, nor does the media they consume push them to think about it

the imperialist interventions are getting closer to home
very good
civil war soon

>>2570668
Third Period ultra-leftism is really common on the internet and I often see them use Stalin as an authoritative source becaue he said something like that in the late 1920s, but for most of the actual "Stalinist" era that was not the policy at all, it was the Popular Front.

>>2570822
Overseas Chinese playing a similar social role to Jews re: southeast Asia and also playing a role in communist movements there is an interesting subject (while also periodically being subjected to pogroms).

thinking some thoughts:

Liberals took over pop culture, the media, and academia. But all those things became stale, movies are nothing but reboots and remakes, music is dead and irrelevant, the music business makes more money from back catalogue, etc.
This stagnation in pop culture became a stagnation in left wing culture which has led to the right creating a counter counter culture of reactionary cruelty that feeds the algorithm, gets hits, and gets attention.
The lefts biggest mistake was winning.

The boomer counter culture became the mainstream culture and its associated with the left, so when pop culture started to stagnate so did the libs and the left.

>>2570822
BasedEmpanada strikes again. Best Roderic can do is be a good little Dengoid shill and try to smol-beanify China because some tabloid trash made (Xi/Xe/Xer) look bad.

>>2570164
I trust Plastic Pills more than this fat retard.

>>2568598
Retard vs. retard fight. No need to belittle China's contribution in defeating the demonic Japs while criticizing them for their stance on Shitrael. Both of these "people" deserve to die.

>>2570863
So Lula is in the Epstein files as well? Hmmmmm

>>2570858
Correct. We also need to stop naming ideologies after people.

>>2570870
If Lula was in the Epstein files, wouldn't Israel used the blackmail material from Epstein to silence him? [Of course this assumes Epstein was mossad]. Because Lula appears hostile to Israel's genocide.

>>2570854
1. He was never a principled anything.
2. He's already being cancelled as we speak.
3. Yes. He should have died in 2015 and given a state funeral by Obomber.
4. Parenti has dementia so he probably doesn't care. Slavoj is most likely laughing his ass off.

Did Chomsky pay Epstein for a teen prostitute?

>>2568517
>They can be genuine but what i mean is when they're defending multiculturalism against their countrys working class, its the same everywhere and i have a feeling its probably the same in Germany
You're performing a crass kind of workerism here, which is to say you're consolidating the working class into merely one body of thought (largely one that agrees with you), and then from that concluding that said thought not only proper but existent.
>The usual script throughout the whole world is this:
>A working class guy starts complaining about migrants (they suppress wages or cause crime or rape people ect.)
Which working class people? Even assuming there are some working class people who say this, most of he rhetoric seems to come from the middle class as well, and from the same multi-billion dollar media outlets you decry as saying the opposite.
>The Middle class multiculturalist response is to say "multiculturalism is our strength, X is a nation of immigrants" "X is a multicultural society", then justifying it by saying something like "The NHS in england was built by immigrants" and linking some article massively downplaying the home nations working class who actually built it, to take the achievements of the home countrys working class and place it upon the imported one
You said this is repeated around the world, this really isn't something which I see extrapolated globally. And you are doing no better, simply then denying the effort of migrants so that you may dispose of one sector of the working class, in order to rhetorically "uplift" the social status of the "native" working class above the migrant. You play a part in the perpetuation of division, of one worker battering another for the smallest of gibs, as opposed to recognizing the mutual interest both hold. The middle class nationalist does the same as the middle class "multiculturalist", discarding the complaints of the worker who brings up issues not aligned with their national program, and stating that they are traitors to the "true" people of the land. The point is to reject the rhetoric of both, unite migrant and domestic, and supercede the false dicotomy in front of us.

>>2568355
>Western Socialists and the Left are just ignoring the overwhelming wealth of data that shows that mass hodgepodge diversity leads to absolutely worse life and social indicators in every single aspect.
The data does not show that diversity in of itself lead the worse life and social indicators, only that in the short term (in our current economic and social context), there develops a lack of social trust that is itself merely one component of the alienation between people observed today.
>The hilarious thing is the only place this is controversial is in the West, go outside of the West, and it's just considered basic common sense fact among all Sociologists.
It's not.
>Literally 100% of Sociologists and Social Scientists in China for example believe different ethnicities and yes >races< (biological race is again a concept that is uncontroversial outside of the west and accepted by most non-western sociologists and genetic scientists) work better in homogenous groupings and mass diversity leads to worse outcomes.
Not to be that guy, but proof? Most scientists in the East also reject the designation of "race" as well, as it's wholly insufficient when researching genetic ancestry. Where are you getting this?
>One study found it was "uncontroversial among all generations of
I haven't seen this one.
>https://curis.ku.dk/ws/files/130251172/Dinesen_S_nderskov_Ethnic_Diversity_and_Social_Trust_ Forthcoming_ASR.pdf
This doesn't argue in support of your argument, stating that the effects are less deleterious as your making it out to be. Studying the effect purely in a Danish context (which the researchers acknowledge is limited is its applicablity), they come to the conclusion that in a micro context there is an effect on trust (due to the perception that someone of a shared ethnic group is more likely to hold shared views), but that this effect on trust (whole apparent) is marginal compared to other social factors which errode social trust.
>https://www.puttingourdifferencestowork.com/pdf/ jPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2570167
>immigration is like literally taking people into your own home
Go back to pol dipshit

>>2570092
>marx specifically says that solidarity with irish nationalists by the english workers is in their self-interest, divorcing it from humanitarian concerns.
How is this a rebuttel to what he said?
>all labour movements are inherently national; that is a contradiction between workers which marx identifies.
You are being myopic about this, Marx identifies that many labour movements of the day begin as national, but due to capital being a international system, mere petty national labour movements are insufficient in actually wholly overcoming capital. You're so close it can be infuriating. The only thing national movements can consequentially do is open up avenues of proletarian revolution. They can weaken the bourgeoise, but if they merely stop at a national level, even if it's multiple countries operating on a purely national level, the revolution is doomed to failure. Either because they fall to capital as capital is a globally interrelated system that overcomes the singular nodes of national capital by means of access to the vast economic nodes available to it (and the petty "national" bourgeoisie implicitly become aware of this, which is which is why even in the case of multiple "closed" economies, some of those economies will begin expanding their markets into each other to outcompete the economies that don't, and over time re-evolve to capital proper again), or because said system goes through the inevitable market contrdictions they do and so takes on a reactionary character where the still existent bourgeoisie elements reassert themselves and cannibalize the system in attempt to preserve captialism in spite of itself.
>indeed, we may read xenophon…
In this paragraph you detail how capital trade grows to take on more and more of the global sphere, yet you fail to notice how mere arguments for national production and trade are selected out. The international overcomes the national, the global overcomes the domestic. This is the reality of all economies, of how classes expand their dominion, and how all those that don't are overcome and discarded. "National" capital can exist only for a short historical time before it is selected out by "global" capital. National movements are sufficient for a time, up to the point it seizes thPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2567227
>just wonder why these are the only options
I never even mentioned Hitler, but to use Hitler as an extreme hyperbolic example, Hitler didn't come from nowhere. He's just an inevitable consequence, partly due to the kind of petty bourgeoisie "praxis" you support. And you didn't really address what I said, which is that you have to work with migrants to overcome capital, and that's the reality of it. The global economy is what it is, to supercede it you must work with the cards your dealt and step out of the game it tries to force you into to instead supercede it in its entirety. When push comes to shove, the bourgeoisie will work with every bourgeoisie they need to, even if on the face of things they "should" compete with one another, because they fundamentally understand that in the long run, they can take it all. You should learn from that rather being the same kind of power adverse leftist that got us into this mess.

>>2570664
Ok so I don't know this but, meanwhime the military might, MIGHT, not be loyal to maduro, I think we're forgetting that the venezuelan military have been for almost 30 years under the influence of Hugo Chávez and it's thought, and meanwhile "not loyal to maduro", I'm really sure they're loyal to the ideology.

>>2568146
these days, "ran a war game" doesn't even have the authority it did 20 years ago (not that it was anything but idealism back then, either). these days "ran a war game" means officers asked chat gpt to tell them what would happen if burgers did x y z.

>>2570616
>>2570658
well the real kicker is that it's the USA and the CIA who have historically supported cartels and their bosses against socialists in the region, just like the CIA has worked with the mafia before. Organized crime has always been in bed with western hegemony.

>>2570616
It's a completely fake cartel made up by the US govt, this was actually admitted to on 60 Minutes in the 90s

>>2570865
Like, they've already denied entry to the Turks, even the ones with construction equipment that were trying to retrieve *Israeli bodies*. Is it because Pakistan is compromised now that Imran Khan is deposed? I don't know anything about Paki politics

>>2570791
>>2570791
You are wrong. China is not facing a youth employment problem. Communist China stopped counting students as unemployed, so your answer is fundamentally wrong. To compare China to Sweden is wrong because Sweden is nation of parasites sustained by third world exploitation.
>China is facing a youth employment problem because the number of its college graduates has been growing at a faster rate than its economy,
This is bold assumption. It is wrong because you are essentially saying the Chinese are too smart for their own good. You concede everything to the imperialist. China for first time in history has population where majority is educated. This is resounding achievement but you make this a bad thing because you are dumb imperialist

>>2570875
Are you the "Rule Me China Movement" guy?

>>2570875
your posts would be so much higher quality if you included more arguments and fewer personal attacks. you always sound like you're putting someone on trial and it's so cringe and larpy. just educate people, man.

>>2570882
Sir he is trolling

>>2569916
>Canada collapses
Maritime Republic, Quebec and Alberta absorbed into the US. Wouldn't this dissolve Canada in general.
>Soutb Africa splits
I wonder how likely this happens.

topic belongs in >>>/ufo/ tbh

2 paths
Full auto luxury space communism
Robots kill everyone that isnt useful to them

>>2569743
>between red and blue states
It is rural vs urban. This is why states like Idaho, Indiana, West Virginia and more are all attempting to gobble up more land from costal states knowing their power centers are only in urban areas. State of Jefferson could become real as well. Truth be told if that Caesar figure who can form a reconstruction coalition, it will turn ugly

>>2570801
Why would it, the others have no serious seccessionist movements
Not that unlikely with the USA supporting white supremacists in South Africa