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>>2581736
so they're trying to make the gen alphas more reactionary than their millennial parents.
>>2581873
truth nuke

>>2581877
>so people universally agreed to be labor aristocracy
They worked every hour of their waking life for it lest they end up as one of us.

>>2581748
>not just Venezuela.
so every country they dim it's trafficking cocaine or fentanyl out of blue, with vibes and feelings.

>>2581877
I'm stupid, I misread your question as where did this increase in wages come from, and I was speculating that possibly only people with already high salaries saw significant real wage increase, since high salaries are sometimes included in misleading American "real wage" statistics

>>2581881
Didn't say they didn't.

>>2581735
reminder that you don't have to subscribe to the default filters (if I understand the AT white paper correctly)

pedo_troll and his wife, the known terrorist babykHila, have succesfully bullied one of the women subjected to the frivolous lawsuits into settling and releasing a statement written by pedo_troll or his settler lawyer Rom "West Bank" Nassim to humiliate her. This included bizarre mentions of Hasan Piker and Asmongold who are in no way involved on the lawsuit, showing exactly what the motive behind them was: to attack Hasan Piker indirectrly to sate pedo_trolls psychosexual obsession with the man. The mention of Amongold shows how united the incel community is in defending each other, pedo_troll included Kaceytron into the lawsuit only because she had been a long time enemy of the incel right that now congregates in r/LiveStreamFails and that includes the likes of Asmonmold and Molestiny. Of course the lawsuits have been known to be frivolous as soon as they were released as they were riddled with mentions of Hasan Piker who was again in no way involved in them including a bizarre comparison between Hsan Piker and the grand mufti of Palestine as well as a fourth lawsuit that pedo_troll threatened against the creator SeanDaBlack unless Hasan paid money into the fundraisers of the women pedo_troll was suing, this is extortion, a criminal offense and pedo_troll quickly withdrew his threats after realizing this. After that pedo_troll quickly moved to extort to more unrelated women, Kat Tenbarge and Taylor Lorenz needed to apologize to him or he would sue SeanDaBlack before also giving up on this. pedo_troll is a misogynist zionist who delights in targeting and tormenting women and pro palestine creators to silence them and to push pro Israeli propaganda such as denying the genocide and apartheid.

>>2581795
You forgot an example lol

>>2581841
goddamn that's infuriating

>>2581463
>there were people here actually defending this wanker
lol
and i say this as someone basically unsympathetic to most nationalisations in the short-medium term. britain's massive institutional rot is anomalous even in capitalist terms and will be easier to tackle when the state isn't marking its own homework… you could make it work if you imagine a foreign country sending in millions of experts with a perfect understanding of british conditions, but that isn't going to happen…

>>2581527
at least we can live in abject poverty without those stupid transhumanists bothering us! thank you sir keir!

>>2581159
Absolutely based

After a weekend of despair i've decided your party is actually going to be cool we just need to struggle against Trots and such

>>2581856
'The trots' are literally the ones who have secured collective leadership and everything good so far, but ok.

>>2581680
>It’s really not.
Well it seems to be, i didn't bring in any personal arguments, it was you who brought up ego and whatever else. Unless you're saying it's my tone that brings in the ego, but I would say that's more of a you issue.

>The things that are supposed to prove I implied Marx and Engels cannot stand on their own and requires lenin.
It makes sense you don't understand. Im simply saying that it is Lenin and the Bolsheviks that popularized and made Marxism historically relevant, in actual history. They were only able to do this because Marxism is correct, independently of them. Hope that cleared up the situation.
>Oh it’s not baseless in the slightest. You can go check right now even, and you’ll get that response, I guarantee it. There is no projection here, you literally just said something 4channer tier. And even by itself, it is such an empty response, you’re lucky I even bothered to address it this seriously.
Idk I haven't been on 4chan in years, from what I remember they'd mostly just talk about how Marxism is a jewish thing, idk where this idea of yours comes from that 4channers are Leninists, or that they would say that the pontification of "real" or "actual" socialism is idealism, or how this 4chan comparison is relevant and not just more cope

<Not muh "real" socialism
>What the fuck am I going to do with this?
Reflect on how your arguments are basic and dumb?

>Oh no sweetheart, that’s not it
But you did say that, which implied that you don't believe it was real socialism (that's what actual socialism means)
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>>2581771
The situation was not sufficiently different for deviation from the original idea
>>2581773
>The October revolution was a
Majority peasant revolution with some proles sprinkled in that ultimately led to a liberal Russia

>>2581850
good job cutting off the rest of what I said and ignoring it

>>2581850
Actually the Bolsheviks were majority proletarian and the october revolution was a revolution of the peasants and proletarians, that's why their symbol has both a hammer and sickle on it. Unfortunately the USSR was eventually defeated and dissolved, but still they were the longest lasting and most advanced experiment in socialist construction, proletarian dictatorship and revolution in history.
Hope that clears things up for you <3

>>2581830
You should use opera instead of chrome or firefox as it is owned by a Chinese megacorp so all your data will be owned and sold by proletarian managers

>>2581848
based clip
this guy never misses fr

>>2581466
>if ukraine's already a part of nato
they aren't
>what's russia so upset over
pic related is just the tip of the iceberg
Also, NATO promised Gorbachev no more eastward expansion in 1991, and he stupidly believed them.

>>2581774
> if every singular ukrainian was a neo-nazi
not the goalpost dumbass. the CIA-backed neo nazis are making life miserable for the people of Ukraine especially in Donbass. You would know this if you had looked into this even a little bit but we're stuck responding to the same tired talking points for 3 years straight. It seems you people always blow in from stupidville (reddit) and say the exact same shit, get corrected, tuck tail, run, and never admit you're wrong.

Nobody in this turbo-homosexual thread is going to reply to any of my posts.

>>2581870
is this not a case of projection on your part? rather it's that you refuse to engage with reality, exactly what are these neo-nazis doing to civilians when most of them are in the trenches? for this you have no serious response, you have no serious response to why they're even as big as they exist, and the fact they are created cyclically, not by the CIA, but by simpler causes like prolonged abject poverty, an already divided society that can't even agree what it wants to be, and deep foreign influence blowing through every part of ukrainian society

>>2581631
because the pink tide failed to address the problems of wealth inequality. they could ride the commodity boom wave to avoid the problems of the 2008 financial crises but when the boom ended they were left in a rut. The latam lumpenbourgeoise no longer benefited in helping conciliatory social democrats now that there was a profitablity crises.

>>2577798
>They already have all the SAM sites mapped out and even those in bunkers since they have been using starlink and palantir to track locations of vehicles around venezuela
what if their data is dogshit?
> I truly hate the way war is conducted in the west. No honor, no heroic fight,
why would the ruling class be "honorable" or "heroic" in its desperate scramble to maintain imperialism? The point is to be as ruthless and sociopathic as possible. Not to make things "fair" or "honorable." The entire purpose is to keep things as unfair as possible for as long as possible, so that they can die in their bunkers at the age of 150 in their medbeds with their sex slaves gathered around them after the surface has been made uninhabitable by climate change.

>No honor, no heroic fight, just turkey shoot police operations. Fucking shit show. I wish america fought wars like russia, with massive casulaties and manliness

I'll go to jail before I do a damn thing for uncle sam

>>2581827
>The point is to be as ruthless and sociopathic as possible. Not to make things "fair" or "honorable."
It's why they're in this mess in the first place. They want an empire, but have zero intention to actually go and do what it takes, forgetting what it took to carve one out. In a way, no other empire declined, like the American one. They didn't even seriously fight for their hegemony, it was just handed to them.

>>2581311
this

>>2581666
TRUTH NUKE

>>2581138
They were axiomatically worse than Hitler.
Say what you will about him like the vid in >>2581674 says in Germany at the time the petit bourgeoisie and middle class were the majority of the nation.
Hitlers petit bourgeoisie Bismarck socialism no matter how much it sold out to big business and so on, still made it clear who it was for, he even named the petit bourgeoisie in speeches.
For the Falange it was the aristocracy and middle class taking full on power away from the prole and peasant majority.
>But they read Marx before Franco!
So did Hitler.
Anyone who would support the Falange might as well just support Hitler. It would be an improvement.

>>2581779
One thing when you read about how the core of the Falangists' support were "students," this is the 1930s in Spain we're talking about where that coded strongly right-wing, sons of aristocrats, etc.

Another odd thing that doesn't get brought up much is aviation. The fascists were enthralled by aviation and there were famous aviators in different countries that joined fascist parties. In the Spanish case it was Julio Ruiz de Alda Miqueleiz (later shot by anarchists).

>>2581727
There's a funny moment where the Falange gets invited to ᴉuᴉlossnW's attempted "Fascist International" but Jose Antonio reiterated that Falangism isn't Fascism. Allegedly some of the anger that came from his followers was based on him being way less willing to commit to offensive violence when they really wanted to crack skulls. I think Ledesma actually used this as a critique of him and Mosley, that they were "soft" aristocrats who were concerned with high-minded ideals whereas the more "radical" and "working class" types (closer to Lumpen imo) wanted to beat people to death.

This sort of reminds me of how you'd previously get this divide in the right where establishment politicians would vaguely gesture towards whatever brainworms their base had, but wouldn't actually believe in them. Like they'd talk about small government and maybe throw a bone to the freaks that think the government is using chemtrails to make them gay. Well there'd be flare ups of contempt in the base because these "soft" old money WASP types want to do things like tort reform whereas they want a real shit-kicker who'll bring back corporeal punishment in schools. It's like "we don't give a fuck about your gay-ass business grant scheme, we want to elect the guy that stands outside of the local mosque screaming slurs"

>>2581726
So something about "rejuvenation" of the Bourgeoisie according to Sorel, as I understand it it's less "Oh they'll be better" so much as that when actual class conflict and violence declines, the Bourgeoisie sort of fall into mindless hedonism. Look at Musk, look at Altman, look at all these billionaires. They're jerking themselves off on pie-in-the-sky ideas, they're lazy, they're self-absorbed. The "rejuvenation" of the Bourgeoisie is more or less their class necessarily having to get its shit together to survive open class war. Elon Musk can't keep shitposting while paying Chinese dudes to play Path of Exile 2 for him when there's a genuine threat of open warfare from the proletariat, and if he tries he'll get his Darwin award. This isn't just localized either, the entire Bourgeoisie as a class would get a wake up akin to how a quiet suburb might be on guard if there's a brutal murder in their neighborhood.

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We'll just scrape it from the moon or something no biggie

>>2581160
The don't want us to know this, but helium comes from the inside the earths mantel and naturally bubbles up along fault lines. We have infinite helium.

>>2581160
it comes from natural gas as a byproduct. not mines.

Good. I hope we run out. If it leads to societal collapse all the better.
Communism isn't ever happening if we don't shake society up somehow, and this seems preferable to nuclear war.

>>2581610
It will only lead to less scientific advances