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 No.503484[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hello everyone, as part of the efforts to grow the site's reputation, I have been assigned the task to create a 'site embassy' on some kind of other website/chan. But I dunno what site would be good. Help please, my dog ate my homework.

Any ideas? /pol/ is an obvious choice but maybe we should start with somewhere a bit less hostile and a bit less fast. Preferably still with some relation to politics though.
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 No.505879

>>503492
no pls no

>>503546
the site is encrypted with SSL, they can see a log but not the message

what about /biz/? at least they don't come with the trotsky is a jew at the service of stalin



 No.163675[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

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 No.505210

>>504496
>>>12201
>>>12201
>>>12201
>>>12201
i repsonded in meta for you faggot. Screen caps proving your lies. Now go and kill yourself



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 No.285223[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

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Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks
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Check out the /edu/ thread at
https://leftypol.org/edu/res/5576.html

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
https://lefty.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=debunk
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 No.503858

>>503837
adorno



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 No.211384[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

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 No.505643

>>505586
>>505004
Honestly it's amazing that westerners can't even imagine a world where people don't just immediately bow to finance gods.

 No.505656

>>505643
>imagine a world where people don't just immediately bow to finance gods.
It seems like, Marx was wrong.

 No.505700

>>504013
It was based but it ultimately failed in achieving it's goal. If anything China needs to hurry up and invent time travel already to do it right this time
>>504032
>millions died
Not enough revisionist died

 No.505881

>>505019
CPC is serious on the climate question and always demonstrated it.
Only retards on Twitter think otherwise at least from my experience.

 No.505885

>>504032
>So I think we should critize it, comrades
Yes, but constructive.
Also Mao shouldn't have initiated the four pests campaign beforehand. Or is the famine natural?



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 No.505852[Reply]

>open social media
>sees black people follow Malcolm X
>same black still support White Liberals
>white liberals support Malcolm X
>there are jews here and there

Whats wrong with Americans? Specifically the Left Leaning ones

Are they that dense that theyre supporting a guy that has the same goal as George Lincoln Rockwell of the American Nazi Party while being completely oblivious to what he wanted future generations to take from him and open eyes to?
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 No.505870

>>505867
>Years ago

Malcolm x died in 1965. He said this in 1963.

 No.505871

>>505870
He met Castro in 1960. The man didn't support George Walllace and the Klan

 No.505875

>>505871
You completely misunderstood my post.

https://nationalpost.com/news/the-weird-time-nazis-made-common-cause-with-black-nationalists

Meeting Castro has nothing to do with Malcolm x perspectives on Jewish people and their relations to power structure + behavior.

 No.505878

>>505875
It does though. It shows a stand with the oppressed, and the rejection of imperial domination.
He broke with the Nation of Islam because the nation of Islam upheld black chauvinism in the face of religon and revolution. He was still a religous nationalist, just not the anti-semite fucking ben shapiro would make him put to be

 No.505884

>>505878
>It does though

It doesn't at all have anything to do with my post. Farrakhan holds Fidel castro in very high esteem. This is completely unrelated to views on Jewish people and what they do as Ive been discussing with Malcolm x.

You somehow think its some gotcha that if you shake hands with Castro and admire him you suddenly throw away all your views and lived experiences in separate topics.

http://amsterdamnews.com/news/2016/dec/01/honorable-minister-louis-farrakhan-remarks-passing/

https://atlantablackstar.com/2016/12/01/minister-louis-farrakhan-hails-fidel-castro-as-beacon-of-light-for-oppressed-people-worldwide/



 No.505150[Reply]

It’s quite simple, really.

The Führer, A.H., was born in 1889.

The Marxist, Friedrich Engels, died in 1895.

Engels had six entire years — six — to violently put an end to the future dictator of the Third Reich. But he didn’t. He spent his time writing in England instead, when he could have been in mainland Europe strangling potential mass murderers.

So, what conclusions can we draw from this?
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 No.505465

>>505246
I wonder should HItler paint like Bush later in life instead of committing suicide what would his paintings look like?! :))

 No.505487

>>505452
>Yeah, better than all the faggots on twitter and pixiv churning out furry and loli porn.
Landscape art was literally the popular art of the time, people arguing about the standard of landscape art was like people arguing about the standard of "pop" art today.

 No.505502

>>505246
Average /ic/ poster

 No.505510

>>505410
>architecture artist
Was it so bad and looked down on that he didn't want to be one?

 No.505883

>>505246
>>505265
>>505410
Y'know I think Hitler is probably the prime example of what I'd tenuously call "Middle Class Psychosis."
Basically, there's the appearance of a tendency among some children of the middle class, especially more introverted ones, to I think recognize the alienating nature of modern labor and try to reject it via pursuing a career in some kind of artistic or otherwise "unalienated" field, basically wanting to get paid to be themselves. They may even have some natural talent in it! But when that talent runs up against the realities of the market, it breaks their fucking mind.
Hitler's paintings really don't look all that bad. Hell, if anything they're better than whatever I could make. For a "village kid" I imagine he was actually fairly talented and given what we know about his relationship to his mother, she might've encouraged him in his efforts or praised his art. He could've set off for Vienna thinking he actually had a real talent for art even if he was (mostly?) self-taught. Then he applies for an elite art school, and surprise-surprise, he finds out he isn't anything more than a kid from the stix out of his depth. He couldn't merely will himself into becoming some beloved "artiste" and while he likely always had a clerical job available to him through his father's connections, the failure of pursuing his dream coupled with a natural desire to avoid alienating bureaucratic work likely dissuaded him from even considering getting a "normal" job.
And you know what? To some extent I can almost sympathize. I struggled and suffered for a degree I'm not even using right now. I've been told time and again I've got a talent for writing but I don't have the drive to see it through and actually write anything I could make a career out of. Even if my writing is actually decent it'd still have to stand up next to other equally (if not MORE) talented writers. It's terrifying, really.



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 No.502435[Reply]

Why is no one discussing the new frontier of imperial expansion and geopolitical competition? Its very obvious that Porky is looking to monopolize the resources of space.
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 No.505532

Musk is enclosing the commons with Starlink. Soon ground based telescopes will be impossible and you will have to pay him rent to look at the real night sky.

 No.505535

>>505532
uygha the light pollution from my city already makes it impossible to see the night sky

 No.505544

>>505535
o ok no big deal then

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 No.505882

>>503752
But why is Musk so into it?



 No.505812[Reply]

Why do populist always try to claim things were rigged against them when they lose? You think this guy would say this if he won?

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2021/09/20/russian-communist-party-says-wont-recognize-moscow-e-voting-results-a75087
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 No.505822

>>505812
>Why do populist always try to claim things were rigged against them when they lose
They need to keep the popular support. Should they accept that they lose they will fear that the people won't support them one and for all.
This has been the case for other populists:
Donald: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dutqlOf3STM
Bolsonaro: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/americas/echoing-trump-bolsonaro-vows-worse-situation-in-2022/2102412
Prabowo Subianto: https://news.detik.com/berita/d-4515732/klaim-menang-62-prabowo-dari-mana-datanya (claims to have won 62%)

 No.505841

>>505812
>populist
funfact, populism is an Horseshit category that mixes socdems like bernie, to retarded rightoids that use popular calls like religion as one in the same.

 No.505876

Doesn't matter that he is a populist. Literally anyone with half a braincel knows that Russian electios were rigged.

 No.505877

>>505876
Is that what CNN told you?

 No.505880

>>505876
>Russian elections were rigged.
Yes
>>505877
No, it is indeed rigged, I remember someone posting such on a Russian politics thread



 No.504773[Reply]

How would Leftypol fix the Republic of Turkey? (Not limited or required to include leftist political thought).
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 No.505834

A Socialist federative system which gives the Kurds autonomy. Balkanization doesn't work.

 No.505836

>>505250
Gulen is literally CIA lol, wth?

 No.505842

>>505836

Would you rather have despotic imperalist erdogan or based reasonable gulen?

One choice is clear to me.

 No.505850

>>505842
At least Erdog sometimes defies NATOmerica, Gulen would be the perfect puppet for them.

 No.505874

>>505836
He owns every charter school in the washington dc area too



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 No.305951[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

aka /leftypol/: An Exploration into the Causes and Effects of Identity Politics.
Let's get to the bottom of identity politics, bane of the radical left and blockade to normie socialism.

ITT post about idpol and anti-idpol.
Post literature, effortposts, infographics, etc.
Post about what idpol is, the history of idpol, idpol today, the problems with it, and how to deal with it.

The point of this thread is to develop our discourse on the topic. Currently the meaning of idpol and many people's understanding of it is extremely nebulous. This is a problem for us in addressing it in general. It is a problem for the mods appropriately moderating it. It's a problem for users knowing what posts are good. Most importantly it's an obstacle to people knowing what kind of theory is sensible and based versus what is idpozzed and cringe. Most of us will agree that idpol is a problem the left deals with to some degree more or less online or in real life. It is both an inferior understanding of politics and a way of baiting people. What we sometimes don't agree on is what idpol is and how it works. That's what this thread is for: fleshing out our discourse so that we can better combat liberalism (and other right wing politics) and promote communism.
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 No.505492

>>505460
>liberate fat bodies
no, we shouldn't do this, why should we subsidize obesity

 No.505521

DiAngelo makes a lot of sense if you understand that modern idpol isn't really a nationalist ideology at its core. It has no romantic conception of the nation or of the group and whatever culture, history, or people that the nation is made of, or values that a nation strives for. Instead modern idpol is an extremely negative ideology in that it has no real positive program for whatever group it is talking about. Modern idpol fully buys into neoliberal end of history. It thinks that their is no alternative to how the world currently works. What differentiates idpol from Fukuyama is that idpol states that the conditions of neoliberalism can be better if it weren't for X group. Being a worker drone wouldn't be that bad if it weren't for men cat calling you, or transhumanists in your bathroom, or whites saying slurs at you, or blacks robbing you, or X group hassling you. Idpol at the end of the day is all about making sure that you aren't hassled or inconvenienced while your being a bugman consumer or a worker drone. The end goal of idpol is that your are no longer hassled by "da bad X group" so you can work harder to buy your boss an extra mansion and yourself another ticket for a marvel movie hat you watch alone. Idpol has little in common with the romantic nationalism of collective emancipation originating from Napoleon, it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN COMMON with the romantic solidarity and human brotherhood from MLK and the civil rights movement. Idpol is neoliberalism at its logical conclusion, an ideology that places consumer comfort over any real emancipation or meaning in life.

 No.505542

>>505492
Dieting is bad for my bottom line, stupid prole.

 No.505872

>>505492
Every man women and child gets roids. Do not dare shame a fattie for being fat, just stuff him/her full of anabolics

 No.505873

>>505872
>him/her
Also non binary people as well of course. There is no excuse for not being shredded.



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