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>>2857780

so, everyone struggles with reading books, that sense of frustration and tiredness, that's your brain processing information, if you struggle with reading books, that means you should keep reading books

having a reading list, and a book club or some kind of community helps, better if you have an actually class/course

i know this sounds like an a-hole opinion, like yes videos and audibooks / lectures / podcasts are solid options, but telling people 'you don't have to read if you find it challenging' is kind of the wrong advice imo, education is inherently challenging, and i fear we may encourage a casual consumerist attitude if we aren't up front about that



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Islamic Resistance™️ in Iraq edition

>The first day of the funeral procession for the late Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei, who died alongside family members at the beginning of the US-Israel war on Iran, has come to a close.

<UK and French leaders issued a joint statement regarding the Strait of Hormuz, describing it as “a vital artery for the global economy” and stressing that “restoring safe transit for ships of all nations through the strait is a matter of global concern”.
>Tehran pledged to deploy every available judicial and diplomatic channel to challenge what the Iranian president characterised as unlawful acts perpetrated against the country by the US and Israel.
<Israeli settlers stepped up their incursions and land seizures across the occupied West Bank, launching assaults that involved taking over or destroying Palestinian homes and vandalising critical infrastructure, including water springs, power lines and greenhouses.
>The Israeli military announced that it targeted approximately 10 “Hezbollah infrastructure sites” across southern Lebanon.
<Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu held talks with US President Donald Trump, and the two leaders agreed to hold a meeting in the United States. According to the International Organization for Migration (IOM), upwards of 640,000 displaced individuals in Lebanon have gone back to their homes following a US-Tehran agreement signed last month that incorporated a ceasefire in Lebanon.
>Yemen’s Houthis warned they will target Saudi Arabian airports and critical infrastructure if Riyadh breaches their airspace or launches an attack, following accusations by the Iran-backed group that the kingdom committed an airspace violation.
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>>2867883
trump would risk destroying the rethuglican party if he doesn't back down, the economic implosion cause by the oil markets will not be pretty, it'll be ugly and the people in the US see through the bullshit. he opened up the can of worms. let's see how this plays out.

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>>2867866
>removed again
amerishit jannies protracted war against brown proles (me) is futile

Shia and sunni islamists are bad and Rojava didn't kill enough of them.

27 measles cases reported aboard USS Abraham Lincoln, section of carrier quarantined

27 cases of measles have been confirmed aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, prompting the U.S. Navy to quarantine part of the aircraft carrier while medical teams conduct contact tracing and vaccination checks, Navy officials said. The outbreak comes as the carrier continues operations in the Persian Gulf, with officials saying flight operations and the ship's mission remain unaffected. An additional 4 measles cases were reported aboard the USS Michael Murphy. Officials said both ships remain operational as health measures are implemented to contain the outbreak.

https://www.navy.mil/local/cvn72/

>>2868057
Rojava is an islamist (liberal) cumrag albeit



 

We haven't had this thread in a while so I'm bringing it back. >>>/leftypol/2851498 says mods will remove it so I am proving it wrong.

The Zionist Entity is a genocidal settler-colonial apartheid state set up by the European and North American powers to colonize the middle east. Even early zionists like Theodor Herzl understood Israel in these explicitly settler-colonial terms. Here is Herzl speaking in the 1800s, when Palestine was still Ottoman territory:

>If His Majesty the Sultan were to give us Palestine, we could offer to resolve Turkey’s finances. For Europe, we would form part of a bulwark against Asia there, we would serve as the advance post of civilisation against barbarism.


So Theodor Herzel felt not only that European people were entitled to Palestine over the people already living there (including Ottoman Jews), but that the presence of "civilized" Europeans in Israel would form a "bulwark" (forward operating base(offensive, not defensive)) against Asia, which entire continent Herzl racistly characterized as "barbaric."

Herzl was born on May 2nd , 1860 in Budapest, Hungary to a family of German speaking assimilated Jews. His father, Jakob, was a wealthy businessman and the young Theodor was expected to enter politics or engineering by his parents. In a sense, he did not disappoint, as Herzl was destined to become the father of political Zionism. While Herzl never saw his Jewish state during his lifetime, his ideology remains so influential that even today he is considered the father of Israel.

Herzl’s birthday is a holiday in Israel, his grave is a national monument, the organization he founded is still active today and the largest mountain in the country was re-named in his honor. It is not an exaggeration to say that Herzl and his ideology remain central to Zionism.

As a young man, Herzl was a fanatic Germanophile. He believed that if Jews simply tried hard enough, they could become “Germanized” and shake off what he called “shameful Jewish characteristics.” Herzl viewed German culture and language as inherently superior to that of the reviled working-class Yiddish speaking Jews. At first, he believed that Jews should be Germanized, arguing that Eastern European Jews were so "savage" and backwards that they must learn the very concepts of beauty and nobility by studying the works of authors like Goethe and Shakespeare. He initially envisionPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2866446
https://x.com/FranceskAlbs
>Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt

>EXPLOSIVE! An arrest warrant should be promptly issued against this self-confessed war criminal.


>The more Israeli leaders get away with their crimes, the more the system meant to protect us all gets irreparably destroyed.

>Israeli settlers are now going all around the West Bank shooting at homes of Palestinians and burning down cars

>>2851552
The main issue is this:
Why as non-Jewish people, should you have to hold your tongue, in relation to criticism of Judaism, and Jewish biases?
This is my problem with all of this, as someone who still has major fedora tipping tendencies, I have never, actually fucking understood, why in fuck I am not allowed to dunk on the absolute fucking insane bullshit that Jewish people believe, but I'm actually allowed to dunk on those same positions, if they come from Evangelicals or Muslims?
The reality is, you shouldn't actually have to give a fuck, it's not the responsibility of non-Jewish people, to constantly adhere to Jewish biases, and mollycoddle their fucking godawful views or "support the Jewish people".
The vast majority of Jews would be perfectly fucking happy with annihilating every Lebanese and Palestinian person off the face of the earth, most mainstream Jewish synagogues, orgs etc, are deeply involved with the Israeli Government, and the IDF and Settlers. The biggest fucking Jewish charity is Taglit ffs.
Look at all the shit Muslims get, across the media, across mainstream politics etc, and the reality is, most Muslims actually fucking hate Terrorism, you don't see most fucking Mosques here across the west, openly supporting fucking ISIS or Al Qaeda. But most mainstream Jewish organizations, from top to bottom, are deeply involved with supporting, frankly, Terrorism.
People don't hold their tongue also with Evangelicals, you can openly hold Evangelicals accountable for Trump, despite not every single Evangelical voted for Trump, some are actually Democrats, but that doesn't matter, because when it's 9/10, it's just meaningless semantics at that point. 93/100 Jewish people view Israel and Zionism as core to their identity and faith, they support Israel and everything it does in Gaza and Palestine, so it should be, fair game, to criticise them directly for their shitty views and actions without having people cry "Antisemitism", "ANTISEMITISM", "You're a Nazi!11!!!"

>>2868053
Yeah, I hate sunni and shia islamists and I say it. Rojava didn't kill enough of them.

>>2868063
The thing is, that is a mainstream opinion, it's good politics to go to war with Islamists. Yet you could never say the same thing about Zionist terrorists.
Also I'm not even talking about "killing" people, just literally disagreeing with them and arguing against their fucking dogshit views, and saying, yes, they should be held accountable, for their actual direct material actions.
There is no actual legitimate argument, beyond crying "antisemitism" as to why any of us, are not allowed to publically just call Jewish beliefs and biases bullshit. If that is "Antisemitism" then we have to basically just admit then that Antisemitism, like Islamophobia itself is a bullshit term.



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>>2868007
>speaks Ukrainian
>*look inside*
>fluent Russian
Hue.

>>2868023
I can't tell the difference, my bad.

>>2868014
>You either oppose imperialism in all its forms, including Israel and Ukraine, or you don't.
This is all way more complicated and multi-vectored than people make it out to be. Putin himself met with Bush and openly declared the war on Chechnya was part of the "global war on terror against radical Islam." Not sure the jihad against Russia was particularly noble but that was partly why Western countries allowed Putin to flatten Chechnya to the ground. Turkey is also more pro-Ukraine than Israel is (btw Ukrainians have a song singing the praise of a Turkish drone). There are probably more Israeli-Russian dual citizens ethnically cleansing Palestinians while wearing IDF uniforms than Americans, and I don't think they face any consequences when traveling back and forth between Israel and Russia.

Not that Ukraine is particularly anti-Israel (more than most countries) but a lot of what people are choosing who to support based on whether it owns the libtards or not. There are some of them who think Russia defeating Ukraine has some negative consquences for Israel which they also support, but I don't see it tbh. Israel never joined in on the sanctions against Russia, and they still trade with each other.

>>2868014
>global imperialist system.
I hate libs

Something you all might find interesting: a report by the recently fired Fedorov about the current issues Ukraine faces at the front:
>"1. Ukraine's Armed Forces are fighting at the tactical level, although increasingly at the operational level too. Still, fundamentally, "we are still fighting tactically".
<2. The corps system has not yet fully taken shape. "We have corps that are successful, that advance every month and do not lose territory. And we have corps where the commander is replaced every month. There are corps that have developed their own school of thought and philosophy, and there are corps where we do not even know how many brigades they have or what is happening inside them. Everything depends on organization, but there are corps that do not distribute all their resources internally," Fedorov said.
>3. Brigades and corps have been fragmented. "There are brigades that cannot even determine how many battalions they have. A battalion is pulled out of one brigade and thrown into another. It is impossible to build a management system under conditions like these," the defense minister said.
<4. No one is held accountable for anything. "Responsibility is always pushed down the chain. Someone else is always made to carry the blame, there is always talk of an investigation and of 'finding out who is guilty'," Fedorov said.
>5. Supplies are not routed through the corps. Fedorov said the supply problem is "fundamental": "Over the past five months, we have bought more drones than in the whole of last year, but most units have not felt the impact, because everything is distributed manually: if you are loyal, you get something, if you are not, you don't… That is why we launched this system. It was four months of hell, because it took us four months to agree on a simple project for baseline drone provision to brigades."
<6. Constant replacement of commanders.
>7. Isolation and toxic treatment of those who deliver results. "If you succeed, you become a star, and then you hit a dead end. [General Mykhailo] Drapatyi received his third reprimand, goodbye. Sorry, Drapatyi, I think after this speech there will be a fourth reprimand for you. I wouldn't want that to happen, but we have no choice left but to talk Post too long. Click here to view the full text.



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This isn't a joke or anything
Cuba is gonna be invaded by the US by next month, and I don't have much hope in the Cuban armed forces alone.

Either an armed resistance needs to be established in the United States or international voluteers need to be formed for Cuba, either by the Cuban goverment or some communist org (PSL, RCI, etc).
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Revive

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>>2791531
If you are correct, the good news is that means more dead soldiers and wasted tax dollars.
Maybe Trotsky was right and permanent revolution is just grifting the great Satan forever.

No refunds for the boomershits who come back with ptsd. No jobs waiting for you, no healthcare, your wife cheated on you, fuck you.

>>2867796
It’s over Christcuck, Cuba has surrendered and is doing dengism. The Cuban revolution is OVER. Time to pack up your bags commies.

>>2867796
>>2867800
You both are complete retards who have projected your own psychological fantasies onto Cuba. No the Cuban state did not betray the revolution. They're choosing a path of transition toward a system that has proven capable of functioning under hostile capitalist imperialist conditions, while also demonstrating that it can transition back to a more authoritarian state model if and when necessary. They're not going to let millions die just to satisfy your bizarre fantasies or ideological fetishes.

>>2867994
>blah blah blah
Che Guevara was an amazing liberal revolutionary. Up there with Robespierre.



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For those sick of Zigger Putlerites, Chigger Dengoids, Irauyghur Islamists, DPRK ethno-national-monarchoids, and other right wing multipolaroid schizos pretending MUH ACK-SIS OF RESISTANCE and MUH AMERISRAELI MUTTREICH has anything to do with class struggle.

ITT we laugh at classcuck jewish niggers who pretend:
<the end of America = the end of Capitalism
<Judaism/Zionism is a bigger enemy than Capitalism
<islamists are real resistance to capitalism
<dengoids are real resistance to capitalism
<monarcho-nazism in DPRK is real resistance to capitalism
<muh sahel coalition gang raping gay men is real resistance to capitalism

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>>2867786
No contradiction

>>2853401
>the end of America = the end of Capitalism

The right wing in Latin America and Southeast Asia would lose all political relevance, and most of those countries would become left-wing one-party states—or at least have left-wing majorities—if the United States were to collapse and fragment. These countries would pull off their own Chinese-style economic miracles, and from there on out, it would be an unstoppable snowball effect. Don’t pretend that the Ziggers are relevant or that the European Union is anything more than a puppet regime of the U.S. The only capitalist regimes that would remain in the end would be small, irrelevant, hermit states that would be nothing more than glorified tax havens and desperate attempts by wealthy “lolbertarians” to create their anarcho-capitalist dystopias—and as we already know from Ayn Rand’s writings, libertarians view the world as their personal Minecraft server, so those regimes wouldn’t take long to collapse anyway.

>>2867773
>juchoid
what does this even mean
DPRK is the way it is because america cut the korean peninsula in half, put syngman rhee in power, bombed every city in the north to ashes, destroyed rail, power, sanitation, hospitals, schools, then forced them to rebuild everything while under heavy sanctions. all criticism of juche should be rooted in material analysis of what actually happened to north korea. if america were subjected to the same treatment it would come up with an ideology so repulsive it would make juche look like the purest communism.

>>2868008
>muh material analysis
This is nothing but an excuse for why North Korea is a de facto absolute monarchy. Endlessly going on about why this is the case is simply an attempt to bypass any suggestion they should change their ways.

>>2867893
>The right wing in Latin America and Southeast Asia would lose all political relevance
No they wouldn't lmao



 

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Country is collapsing, pretty bad ngl
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-02225-w

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>>2868050
>‘Explosive diarrhoea’ outbreak grips US
Kind of worried about this ngl

>Donald Kunt cuts some shit and funds the Covid lab
<Rona happens
>Gets elected again
>Cuts some more shit, puts RFK Jr in charge of health
<Diarrhea, measles and other crazy shit runs rampant
Dems should really talk about all of the above, but how is it they didnt say shit about the first?

>>2868058
>but how is it they didnt say shit about the first?
because they are trump supporters



 

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my investments just increased $750 in value overnight

my fellow party members will be happy with my next financial contribution

Friedrich von Wieser in 'The Origin of Value' (1884) coins the first use of the term "marginal utility" (Ch. 4, Sct. 2):
<In the following, I shall refer to the utility of a good—which is decisive for the value of a unit of that good because it corresponds to the least important use permitted by economic considerations—as "economic marginal utility" or simply "marginal utility" (cf. Jevons's terms "final degree of utility" and "terminal utility"). It will become evident that, in all cases involving the value of individual goods that make up a stock, marginal utility determines the magnitude of that value. Economic value is marginal value. [Ich werde im Folgenden den für den Werth der Güter- einheit entscheidenden Güternutzen, weil er an der Grenze der wirthschaftlich zugelassenen Verwendungen steht, den wirth- schaftlichen Grenznutzen oder auch kurzweg den Grenznutzen nennen (vergl. die Ausdrücke y)final degree of utilüy(c und yiterminal utilitya bei Jevons). Es wird sich zeigen, dass in allen Verhältnissen, in denen es sich um den Werth der ein- zelnen, einen Vorrath bildenden Güter handelt, der Grenznutzen den Ausschlag fiir die Grösse des Werthes giebt. Der wirth- schaftliche Werth ist Grenzwerth].
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true or false?

>>2867040
Well, industry doesn't require selling to the world market; it can also sell to domestic markets (e.g. "Made in America"), which is naturally more expensive by costs:
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/heres-how-much-a-made-in-the-usa-iphone-would-cost.html
It appears more expensive to producers and consumers in the short-term, but can lower over time. Regardless, it is acting as a security, most especially for employment. A notorious example is the decline of Detroit:
<In Detroit, the devastating economic effects of deindustrialization continue to push inhabitants away from what was once the fourth-largest city in America.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/detroit-decline_n_813696
<Data says 51% of children lived in poverty in 2024, a rate that is three times the national average
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2025/10/07/grim-reality-more-than-half-of-detroit-children-are-now-living-in-poverty-census-bureau-data-shows/
Of course, the lumpenisation of the proletariat doesn't reduce national costs, it only exacerbates them by the means of welfare payments. So, the national producer and consumer may be able to buy goods cheaper, but this is only relative to the social costs of unemployment and crime, resulting from it. In terms of effective policy for re-industrialisation, there have to either be incentives or interventions. In the UK for example, the post-war Labour government nationalised key industry sectors:
<Nationalisation was the Labour Party’s idea of putting the control of the main industries in the hands of the people, instead of a small group or shareholders […] 1 in 10 British people worked in these nationalised industries […] Many people believed the process artificially helped declining industries.
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This is a good collaboration between Michael Hudson and Carl Benjamin on the debt cycle, expressed as class warfare. If I could appeal to both men, I would portray the wage relation as a type of interest-bearing capital. Aquinas of course also demystifies rent as a type of usufruct, and thus a usurious "double payment", or as Carl properly declares, indebted students must 'move uphill just to stand still', like the ancestral debts put on children in the ancient world, as Graeber writes about; the pension fund is no different - life serves death. Carl also describes student debt as a "tax" on young people, which is true, but I would comment that Adam Smith described profits as a tax also. What is common in all of this is a mode of surplus extraction by unproductive elements of society, and so a unified class struggle. We can read Marx on this issue:
<In the corvée, the labour of the worker for himself, and his compulsory labour for his lord, differ in space and time in the clearest possible way. In slave labour, even that part of the working-day in which the slave is only replacing the value of his own means of existence, in which, therefore, in fact, he works for himself alone, appears as labour for his master. All the slave’s labour appears as unpaid labour. In wage labour, on the contrary, even surplus-labour, or unpaid labour, appears as paid. There the property-relation conceals the labour of the slave for himself; here the money-relation conceals the unrequited labour of the wage labourer.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch19.htm
So, the "5,000 Year War" is not particular, but is a general struggle.



 

My dad is a SocDem(the welfare capitalist kind) tankie. He has tons of books defending the Soviet Union. Try to criticize the Soviets and he would say the CIA have brainwashed you. He makes us celebrate Stalin's birthday every year, and he wholeheartedly believes that Stalin was secretly a social democrat. Every year on 9/11, he complains that the fall of the USSR was a bigger tragedy but doesn't get treated as such at all by the media. He doesn't like communism tho.
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>>2867889
>He doesn't shit on worker co-ops

>>2867840
So your dad is a bog-standard modern "marxist-leninist" then.

if only all MLs were as honest as your dad

>>2868044
MLMs may have better and more consistent politics on paper, but PPW is a failing strategy as of this moment, the one time MLMs did take power was in Nepal where they were forced at gunpoint by the CPC and INC to do liberal nonsense and that led directly to last year’s color revolution there

>>2868032
When the alternative is nothing I take the something



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