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>>2832283
ouhghgghhgghg… 7you can see her bootycheeks… ughh….



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I think given what Lincoln was faced with he made by far the most moral decisions, but even what he did was just a bandaid for real change that was made excruciatingly slowly from 1868 on.
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>>2832429
>>2832431

England abolished slavery in her colonies in 1830 so if America had stayed an English colony, would it have been abolished 30 years earlier? Maybe, but at the same time… England supported the confederacy in the American Civil War, because America's slave-picked cotton supplied England's textile mills.

>>2831970
HW was also the leader of the CIA when he oversaw the Reagan-funded genocide of Nicaraguan and Guatemalan leftists.

Also FDR being the preferable option for black Americans in the 1930s is setting the bar in hell. What little he actually did for black Americans is outshined by the amount of benefits he made exclusive to white people

A good president of a capitalist country knows when it's time to do concessions to the proletariat. Obama [Obama's last name] and Fredrick Roosevelt knew to do that.

>>2832434
England was neutral in the American civil war.

>>2832434
>England abolished slavery in her colonies in 1830 so if America had stayed an English colony, would it have been abolished 30 years earlier?
It's more complicated than that, since northern states began abolishing it in the 1780s, so there was actually a period where enslaved people in Canada could escape slavery by going to the US. Plus having the southern states remain British colonies would have immensely increased the power of pro-slavery forces in the British Empire and delayed abolition. After the 13 Colonies seceded the only major centres of British slavery were in the Carribean.



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Okay, but why did the French hate the Cagots? Where the French just evil or something? It seems pretty arbitrary and pointless. I don't see how these kinds of caste systems support the ruling class.



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What does anarchy look like?
How can anarchy be achieved?
Which current groups best represent the movement?
How can we all fight to destroy authoritarian capitalism in our daily lives?
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>Forms of informal cooperation, coordination, and action that embody mutuality

There’s that word again. Sounds exactly like how liberals utilize the word “abundance” nowadays.
>without hierarchy are the quotidian experience of most people.
sure bro
>Only occasionally do they embody implicit or explicit opposition to state law and institutions. Most villages and neighborhoods function precisely because of the informal, transient networks of coordination that do not require formal organization, let alone hierarchy. In other words, the experience of anarchistic mutuality is ubiquitous.

Wow, it’s almost like anarchistic mutuality is not fundamentally incompatible with capitalism and liberalism

>As Colin Ward notes, “far from being a speculative vision of a future society, it is a description of a mode of human experience of everyday life, which operates side-by-side with, and in spite of, the dominant authoritarian trends of our society.”

Sure

>The big question, and one to which I do not have a definitive answer, is whether the existence, power, and reach of the state over the past several centuries have sapped the independent, self-organizing power of individuals and small communities. So many functions that were once accomplished by mutuality among equals and informal coordination are now state organized or state supervised.

keyword: Once.
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>To what extent has the hegemony of the state and of formal, hierarchical organizations undermined the capacity for and the practice of mutuality and cooperation that have historically created order without the state?
Past tense
>To what degree have the growing reach of the state and the assumptions behind action in a liberal economy actually produced the asocial egoists that Hobbes thought Leviathan was designed to tame? One could argue that the formal order of the liberal state depends fundamentally on a social capital of habits of mutuality and cooperation that antedate it, which it cannot create and which, in fact, it undermines.
Precedented
>The state, arguably, destroys the natural initiative and responsibility that arise from voluntary cooperation. Further, the neoliberal celebration of the individual maximizer over society, of individual freehold property over common property, of the treatment of land (nature) and labor (human work life) as market commodities, and of monetary commensuration in, say, cost-benefit analysis (e.g., shadow pricing for the value of a sunset or an endangered view) all encourage habits of social calculation that smack of social Darwinism.
Ok
>I am suggesting that two centuries of a strong state and liberal economies may have socialized us so that we have largely lost the habits of mutuality and are in danger now of becoming precisely the dangerous predators that Hobbes thought populated the state of nature. Leviathan may have given birth to its own justification.
Been there, done that.

I genuinely find it funny that anarchists see themselves as revolutionary competitors to communists, and then proceed to say this shit. Genuinely do.

>The populist tendency of anarchist thought, with its belief in the possibilities of autonomy, self-organization, and cooperation, recognized, among other things, that peasants, artisans, and workers were themselves political thinkers. They had their own purposes, values, and practices, which any political system ignored at its peril. That basic respect for the agency of nonelites seems to have been betrayed not only by states but also by the practice of social science. It is common to ascribe to elites particular values, a sense of history, aesthetic tastes, even rudiments of a political philosophy. The political analysis of nonelites, by contrast, is often conducted, as it were, behind their backs. Their “politics” is read off their statistical profile: from such “facts” as their income, occupation, years of schooling, property holding, residence, race, ethnicity, and religion.
>Artisans
Allegations not beaten. Also the imprecise terminology is quite annoying.
>This is a practice that most social scientists would never judge remotely adequate to the study of elites. It is curiously akin both to state routines and to left-wing authoritarianism
Still doesn’t know what that word means
>in treating the nonelite public and “masses” as ciphers of their socioeconomic characteristics
There’s the imprecise terminology again
>most of whose needs and worldview can be understood as a vector sum of incoming calories, cash, work routines, consumption patterns, and past voting behavior. It is not that such factors are not germane. What is inadmissible, both morally and scientifically, is the hubris that pretends to understand the behavior of human agents without for a moment listening systematically to how they understand what they are doing and how they explain themselves. Again, it is not that such self-explanations are transparent and nor are they without strategic omissions and ulterior motives—they are no more transparent that the self-explanations of elites.
The terminology is very annoying

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>>2831661
i'm sorry but calling things that are 100% related da librail is the peak way of thinking anon
you should try it too




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>>2832408
Thank you for your service, librarian anon

>>2832413
But my initial post wasn't about people's 4chan shitposts at all but based on my experiences with women from 4chan that I talked to on discord and other platforms.
4chan is just a group therapy place for frustrated nerds to complain about their lives. 95% of stuff you read on there is retarded. But there are still at least real people on there, often posting their real feelings, even if they're delusional. In this era full of AI generated slop I think getting real people's input is valuable. I don't think it's reasonable to discount their experiences entirely just because you don't like their opinions. When you cut through the bullshit oftentimes they have real grievances with the world.

Anyway 4chan is not the only place to meet women, obviously. It's not like this phenomenon of mentally ill women seeking providers/fixers is exclusive to 4chan. I've met at least two just from going to actual group therapy. I was moreso criticizing the common mentality that "loser" men don't deserve love because they need help with things, even though it's totally normalized for loser women to seek well-adjusted men that can fix them. We should be consistent about this and encourage people to help eachother even in relationships.

>>2832406
do you have fun

Anyone watching the World Cup next week? Gonna get my Team USA Jersey

>>2832415
No no anon, thank YOU for patronizing your local library



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>Gigabazed Edition

A thread for the harmonious discussion related to the saviour of socialism, the uplifter of nations, the king of cooperation, the soviet of SOVL, the enjoyer of empathy, the ally of Africa, the demigod of development, the bureaucracy for banter, the prince of ping pong, the lobotomizer of labour aristocracy, the protector against proxy wars, the sponsor of sophisticated sciences and culture, the guarantor of gommunism, the Proletarian Dictatorship of Chynah™.

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Xisters??? Our responde?????

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>>2832419
>Sean O'Malley vs Song Yadong



 

One of the most hollowing things about being a leftoid is just how much bad behavior is automatically given to you just because you want to live in a world where people don't starve or whatever and there could be more free time to do well whatever the fuck uyghas want to do. Yet leftoids are said to always have these Dysgenetic traits while rightiods get to portray themselves as the yes chad and we get saddled with soyjaks and shit. Even people who are just vaguely sympathetic to our cause is also getting that treatment and other such shit. "Conservatives/Chuds are the real punk rock/edgelords/contrarians" "Conservatives/Chuds are the real tolerant people", "Conservatives are all fit" yet if you ever bring up rural/urban obesity rates or notice how fucking ugly, the very obvious gap in autism score s between rightiods and leftoids, how much social conservatives have larger amygladas (Thus they feel fear and disgust more, not very stoic of them), how they think they can't even win a fight against DONALD TRUMP or even worse MID LOOKING all these rightiod look like and yet you still have vtubers and shit saying they want to be impregnated by Asmongold!

Being a leftoid is basically having no fucking ego defense and you have to be much more fit, intelligent and other such qualities to get ass while centroid/chud men get it easier despite them not even needing to be HALF of any of things we have to do.
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>>2832405
die cager, you don't belong in this world

I agree with you that bicycles don't belong in the road with the psychopaths though, I ride on the pavement

>>2832394
>Yes
>but the suffering of 3.5 sanduyghurs on the other side of the world is a problem?
It's funny because you're trans and got emotional that people didn't take your issues as important as other political topics.
To explain this gap, instead of focusing on why people take interest in political subjects in the first place, you try to rationalize this by supposing that we should judge the political importance of a thing by the number of people it concerns. This is simply not the case.

>transgender issues are unimportant because there are so few transgender people

How convenient that I already adressed this
<I'm not saying this, I'm saying that it disproportionally got attention circa 2016 in comparison to other subjects when it is a relatively minor subject

>That's literally a lie you heard from some populist YTbers

Do we need to take out the mcdonalds "black trans are dying because of your silence" ad ? I mean ffs you can go to college and see this firsthand. There's no need to deny that a section of the left has been enforcing cultural norms that most of the population is alien to.

>Why did le heckin soy wikipedia promote Richard Lynn's racist autism score researches?

Reality denial at its finest

Oh look, another horseshit thread

My Althusser thread gets zero responses, along with my Kautsky one. But this fucking attracts the crem de la crem of leftypol like flies to shit

>>2832421
I'm sorry anon, people prefer an easy thread they can just rant about than something complicated

>>2832421
Did you post it on /edu/ ?



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>>2832255
God willing

What ever happened to this trial, burgeranons?

>>2832389
>getting comrades arrested by fedposting
impeccable anarchist praxis. rev and reve is peak anarchism.

>>2832323
non-sequitur. don't reply.

>>2832036
they finally made a divorced dads charity. I'd be advocating for better paternity and maternity leave, cheaper childcare and education. how many stay at home mums even are there? this shit is niche.

fuck this creepy wifebeater bullshit.



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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/jun/01/mandelson-lobbied-ministers-advisory-firm-global-counsel-labour-papers-show

Mandelson lobbied hard for advisory firm after Labour victory, papers show

>Peter Mandelson, as president of his then advisory firm Global Counsel, lobbied hard for ministers to attend his events and to meet his firm’s staff in the months following Labour’s general election win, newly released documents reveal.
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>>2832290
why. is this a 5d chess move ?

>>2832298
Not to be a quack, but I genuinely think that Starmer is either a plant put by the MI5 to sabotage the Labour Party to screw over the left in preparations for a fascist takeover of the UK as part of broader preparations for WW3, hence the surveillance state being implemented across the west and this sudden massive surge in AI data centre constructions despite AI startups losing net profits yearly ever since their introduction, and I don’t think whoever will succeed Starmer will change that.

Or, to be more religious, Starmer is a divine punishment on the British left for failing to stand up for Corbyn for being a run-of-the-mill eurolefty who was only edgy in the context of Anglo politics wrt Israel, as well as for not taking a definite stance on Brexit.

Because if you remember, among commoners their real issue with Corbyn had less to do with the bogus anti-semitism charges, and more with how he didn’t provide a concrete stance on Brexit, instead flip-flopping on it.

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Why are they gating literal factory work behind years of experience btw?

>>2832031
Didn't see it on twitter my friend just sent them to me lol

>>2832375
>I genuinely think that Starmer is either a plant put by the MI5
TBH i think it's fair to have this assumption since one learns the stuff about him working on the Northern Ireland Policing Board and all that.

>>2832375
>I genuinely think that Starmer is either a plant put by the MI5 to sabotage the Labour Party to screw over the left

I would say that's pretty obviously true, I don't know whether the plan was always to have Reform take over, I think the deep state would have been happy with an eternal Starmerreich where centrist tyranny reigns, because they are already getting everything they want, but definitely the plan was to murder the left.



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