A thread to share of what you think are your controversial opinons and takes, here mine:
- mass immigration is bad overall (I'm not against immigration per se, more like unfiltered immigration is quiet bad in my opinion)
-religion in general are bad, reactionary and backwater, and trying to "fuse" religion and left leaning politics are bound to fail because both doesn't mix well
-"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted
-China is actually a trying a form of modernize socialism with end goal of becoming a full fledged socialist nation when they exhaust the market-capitalism form of relation in the country
-North Korea is a abomination of socialism
-Supporting Russia is stupid because Putin is nowhere near close to be a support of socialism and progressive politics and is just a form of support imperialist politics by because isn't western somehow is good, it's like supporting japanese imperialism back in the WW 2 era isn't western
Did the chud opinion thread get deleted? That one was basically the same. I guess there have been many others but that one still had a ways to go.
>>2703984>the OP's controversial take I don't like is automatically CHUDOk
>>2703987No, there was literally a thread talking about peoples most chuddiest opinion they have.
>>2703989We all have a inner CHUD inside, like it or not, even the most hardcore progressive leftist will have some very chuddist opinion on something.
>>2703978>North Korea is a abomination of socialismWrong. You should be executed for praising capitulationist market """"""socialism""""" while smearing the DPRK who suffered for decades for the "sin" of not dickriding american imperialism.
>>2704000Ah yes, the country supposedly socialist where they have a hereditary monarchy now poised to pass to a teen girl, very progressive and socialistic indeed.
For me it’s lamb vindaloo
I hate Indians as much as the next guy but they cook a mean lamb
>>2704007>look inside>China was praised>somehow took it was "China Bad"…
>>2704002>monarchyWrong. You know nothing about how the political system of the DPRK works and just repeat CNNslop like the cattle you are. Go buy a labubu to support the market socialism you love so much.
my controversial opinion I have is that imperialism is bad and that its lackeys must be beaten to death.
so controversial that it gets me banned.
>>2704017COPE, DPRKoid, North Korea is bullshit country that just survived by the good will of a actual smart socialist country called China
>>2704023>death penalty HOLY BASED!
>>2704023lumpen-animals must be beaten to death
>>2704029>bullshit countryWrong. The PRC collaborated with american imperialism against the DPRK for decades and the DPRK still stands (and its now finally blooming in terms of quality of life and development), this means both the US and dengist PRC are both paper tigers compared to the DPRK since they couldn't force capitulationist market reforms into it like they did with Vietnam. You are an ignorant dickrider of imperialism aka the highest stage of capitalism, you are an anti-Communist barbarian and you will be executed. Enjoy as the liberal democratic shithole you probably live in decays into fascism while north koreans live happy lives in their towns with plenty of green areas that they earned by having a revolution, something you will never experience.
>>2704058why does the PRC fund and protect the DPRK, then?
>>2704058Absolute state of mentally ill Junchoids, they will literally bend truth and reality just so they don't deal with the fact that DPRK is a paper tiger dependent on an actual smart socialist country, keep coping.
>>2704029>just survived by the good will of a actual smart socialist country called ChinaWrong. China supported sanctions until like 2022.
>>2704068Something like 95% of DPRK trade is from China, so they basically need China to survive.
>>2704061They started having better relationships in the last 15 years because the PRC finally started distancing themselves from the US, which is good. Xi Jinping is not perfect but he is better than those between him and Mao. If the PRC starts moving away from their market economy and return to central planning they will be as good as the DPRK and the USSR under Stalin.
Marxism claims to be materialist but actually does leave out biological factors. We aren’t all the same and the sociological theories of Marxists treat human beings as an interchangeable agent whose behavior is solely determined by external factors like their class. Clearly there is variance within these sociological categorizations and some of it falls out of what Marxist theory would predict. Some people born into bourgeois status are intelligent and of noble moral quality and support socialism, and many proles are beastly and short sighted and would spit in your face if you offered them socialism because they actually love hierarchy and the chance to be above others. This isn’t about race as it was conjured up by colonial times. It’s too individually varied from what I can tell. I just think genetics play a bigger role in shaping a person’s mind than Marxists like to pay attention to.
>>2704075I actually quiet schocked to see a opinion like that here on LeftyPol, you have good insight on how thing actually work, many here deny the role of biology in shape the person in favor of some very orthodox views because many don't like the implication that accepting the biology role on people has
>>2704067Wrong. You are the one coping by calling decades of capitalist reforms and collaboration with american imperialism against socialists "smart socialism".
My hot take is that parents should get a random child from the state children distribution system after the mother gives birth and rests sufficiently long.
>>2704075>It’s too individually varied from what I can tell. If that's the case I don't see how Marxism would change based on what you're saying. Marxist theories about sociology and history are just general descriptors about how large numbers of human beings behave over long periods of time. Even if biological factors are highly influential on the behaviours of individuals, this wouldn't have any implications for Marxism unless they fell along lines and worked in ways that ran contrary to Marxist descriptions.
>>2704075Marxism never left out biological factors. It's you who have an incorrect concept of 'biological factors'.
>>2704088It's called being pragmatic, Juchoid, if China keeping following Mao policy China would be a gigantic empty grave with not actual advances for socialism cause worldwide
>>2704092In one of his work Marx literally says that outside forces is what make man, not the man's inborn nature.
>>2704075>Marxism claims to be materialist but actually does leave out biological factorsWrong. It simply doesn't fall for your midwit nazoid biological determinism.
>>2704095You are a naive moron. Marx looked up to Charles Darwin. English literally wrote 'the part played by Labour in the transition of ape to man'. English literally wrote stuff about the development of 'aryans', 'semites', 'native americans' etc. He literally tries to explain that access to cows and cow milk made semites and aryans to have 'more developed' brains or something like that.
You are a race essentialist, a race reductionist.
Marx and Engels did not essentialise anything. They took into account every aspect (the truth is the whole) of reality and simply recognised that some factors are primary (class) while others, while still important, are secondary or tertiary (race, religion etc).
>>2704093>pragmaticThis word always means anything but communism. If collaborating with american imperialism in the extermination of communists around the world is pragmatic then you can shove your pragmatism up your ass and go back to reddit where you will find more barbarians like you.
>>2704099*Engels , not 'english' lmao
Fucking autocorrect
Noncontroversial opinion:
you should stop posting.
Things are about to get ugly concerning the Jewish population in America
I just want Israel and ziocucks gone (this includes evangelicals).
>>2704125>I just want Israel and ziocucks gone (this includes evangelicals).This is only controversial on /ziopol/ (aka /usapol/).
>>2703978>A thread to share of what you think are your controversial opinions and takes, here mine:DPRK is based and the party really is putting all of its efforts to build and maintain socialism.
fdpd
>>2704091Ah, no, I meant I see too much in-group variance in races to believe it pertains to race. Race as in how Westerners laid it out. I believe you could group people together but more so based on cognitive types that seem to emerge in any ethnic group. I do think this has relevance for the socialist cause because the standpoint of some Marxists whose expectations center around “rational self-interest” of proles to bring about socialism is like hoping for the stars to align. I don’t see much of what Marxists claim this class interest to be and the idea of false consciousness was an easy cop out to not admit that reality doesn’t fit your model. To bring about socialism is simply less likely to succeed with short sighted, selfish, intellectually uncurious, fuck you got mine, people who are bigoted. Meanwhile an intellectually curious person who educates themselves on their own accord, an intelligent person who can understand complex subjects, an empathetic and morally invested person caring about the oppression of others and recognize their part in it is just more likely to support socialism and muster what’s necessary to rally for it. I’ve seen the former in people of bad and good circumstances and I’ve seen the latter in people of bad and good circumstances. There is a genetic part, and it comes with desirable predilections.
>>2703978- People don't have agency and should ideally not be judged as if they do have it. this includes Neo-Nazis, Zionists, Ziggers, the bourg and many many more.
I still do it, though. Because I don't have agency either- It's honestly disgusting how many people hate the romani.
- When it comes to assimilation, there shouldn't be any expectation for it to come from migrants or minorities. except for maybe learning the local languange.
- China will become socialist by 2050, even if the CPC isn't perfect. I don't think the material conditions will allow them to stay capitalist and they've proven that they're able to oversee massive change to society.
- I don't think there are that many people who have a healthy relation identities, whether it be ethical, religious, political, your own or the ones of others.
>>2703978> mass immigration is bad overall (I'm not against immigration per se, more like unfiltered immigration is quiet bad in my opinion)Retarded epstein psy-op victim tier opinion
>religion in general are bad, reactionary and backwater, and trying to "fuse" religion and left leaning politics are bound to fail because both doesn't mix wellPointless opinion, not controversial. Nobody is trying to seriously fuse them
>"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted Insanely retarded and anti human opinion
>China is actually a trying a form of modernize socialism with end goal of becoming a full fledged socialist nation when they exhaust the market-capitalism form of relation in the countrySomewhat correct, but hard to believe you actually think this
>North Korea is a abomination of socialismMidwit opinion
>Supporting Russia is stupid because Putin is nowhere near close to be a support of socialism and progressive politics and is just a form of support imperialist politics by because isn't western somehow is good, it's like supporting japanese imperialism back in the WW 2 era isn't westernBarely comprehensible retardation
>>2704069Trade is minuscule compared to other nations. North Korea also completely cut off any trade for five years during Covid, why hasnt it become a shithole like Cuba during this time? Cuba went the market route in the 90s and that completely fucks them now over since they are now completely reliant on the tourism sector which the US can just off. Not too mention that most money was spent on that sector which meant that the rest of the infrastructure has been neglected. North Korea "tried" to go that route, saw that it didnt work, and now they build nukes and houses.
>>2704146noooooo stop developing without capitulationist market reforms nooooo what about the people's stock market nooooo this is le bad this doesnt work nooooo its literally another holodomor nooooo!!!
Socialism in America is going to mean austerity and lower QOL for the vast majority, however their QOL is going down anyway
Both Chinese and Korean forms of socialist construction are valid for their specific conditions and worthy of support :)
>>2704178And so is Social Democracy in Europe :^)
>>2704178>ChineseWhen will le productive forces be developed enough?
>>2704237>coalburnerDid they expand that term to include Indians?
controversial where? on leftypol, in leftist circle, in the mainstream?
Disco Elysium wasn't that good.
>>2704237Damn those letters are ugly. He should stick to making paint memes instead of graffiti.
Many parents (at least 30 percent) hold some amount of contempt for their children. Half of all births are unplanned and a lot of parents subconsciously believe that their kids are "holding them back"
>>2704321They hold each other back
>>2704321Lotta children's vibes are way off so I get it
>>2704335fr. some 4 year olds vibe is wack yo.
A totalitarian police state is good so long as the laws are okay.
>"liberal" eugenics is mostly right and should be mass adopted
How would that look like, banning chuds, religioncucks and conservapedos from breeding and marrying?
Damn op, you are a real piece of shit, huh?
>>2703978Fascism is retarded but historically progressive and helps build the material base of socialism.
>>2704687>and helps build the material base of socialismSource?
Part of the reason the US hasn't cut off ties to the Zionist Entity is the fear of the ruling class, the leaders on the older side, on psychic interference by Zionist agents on their bodily functions, their lives basically.
>>2704476It's when a liberal winevaunt ceo uses working class womens wombs as incubators
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