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>>2870863 RCA has gained 10,000 new members over the course of the year
>>2872557Repeatedly in this document the writers (credited only as The Department of State) make reference to dangerous "Third Worldist Radicalism" and "Third Worldism" (capitalized in the text, I don't know why). By using the term to attack people to their left, the likes of Hasan Piker and his orbiters do the unwittingly do the bidding of Marco Rubio and further his agenda.
Will they take the hint????? No.
>>2872559lol no way, the $200/month tax to Pakistanis party!?
>>2872565Maybe the hint that should be taken is don't try to be the unironic embodiment of the "strawman" that you are accused of being.
>>2872566i gotta proofread my shit. oh well
>>2872565>>2872571That's not what he's saying. He's more like those White supremacists that hate being called racists. He is saying like
>if the state department labels me a racist, how dare you use the same terminology! I'm not a racist, I am a "race-realist!" Or whatever he thinks he should be described as.
You know, you can't just whine at people until they like you. I don't think it's ever happened once in the course of human history.
As a real Marxist-Leninist, I think the DSA should purge the organization of all Marxist factions, embrace the two-state solution, change its official name to โsocial democrats of americaโ (SDA), and officially declare its ideology to be social democracy (ie. UBI, single-payer healthcare, free college, etc.) in order to both avoid being banned by the fascist trump administration and to dramatically increase its odds of successfully taking over the democratic party. This is because โdemocratic socialismโ is really just an edgy synonym for social democracy anyway, and though Marxism is a universal theory of history (ie. modes of production, base-superstructure model, etc.) and a political ideology (Marxism-Leninism) that works in third world periphery countries (ie. USSR, PRC, DPRK, Cuba, etc.), political Marxism is not viable in the material conditions of modern America and Western Europe, as any real Marxist-Leninist understands.
I also hope that the DSA stops luring innocent young women into participating in dangerous larp protests and risky activism that can get them brutalized/arrested/incarcerated by fascist cops. If you feel the need to have a protest, it must be completely peaceful and coordinated with local authorities (including the local cops), so the fascist cops donโt use it as an excuse to throw everyone in jail. However, I feel that the DSA should stop encouraging useless and potentially dangerous protests (even peaceful ones coordinated with local authorities have a chance of escalating into a dangerous larp, due to infiltration by undercover feds/cops/โblack blocโ anarchists that can get everyone arrested by fascist cops) and focus all of its efforts on winning elections, the only viable praxis in modern America.
>>2872568>Maybe the hint that should be taken is don't try to be the unironic embodiment of the "strawman" that you are accused of being.but muh yes chad meme. you're just supposed to say yes to every accusation with an epic blonde aryan stoic face no matter how heinous
>>2872574>Marxism is a universal theory of history (ie. modes of production, base-superstructure model, etc.) and a political ideology (Marxism-Leninism) <Marxism is Marxism-LeninismThen why does it need to be hyphenated?
>>2872577Marxism-Leninism is the political ideology created by Leninโs interpretation of Marxism, which is centered around a revolution to overthrow the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie and establish a dictatorship of the proletariat, that is viable in third world periphery countries as seen by the success of the USSR, PRC, DPRK, Cuba, etc. Marxism is the universal theory of history, ie. the concepts of modes of production, base-superstructure model, etc. that was created by Marx and Engels.
>>2872579But Marx already had a programme as well. You are right that it wasn't focused on the third world, but that is what makes it more relevant to us than Lenin's third world adaptation which he admitted was incorrectand short-sighted in his speech on the NEP and wtc.
"Marxist-Leninism-Maoism" as a theory just boils down to:
>How do we await the collapse of a third world society in a world war(1-2)?
When else has this supposed great "theoretical development" ever worked? Maybe also in a Cold War where a communist superpower is willing to back you up with arms and manpower or something? Even then it doesn't have a great track record.
>>2872582Marxโs programme for the first world was essentially modern social democracy, lol. The point I am making by saying that the DSA should just dump the โdemocratic socialismโ larp, and fully embrace social democracy is that is what Marx actually envisioned for the first world, while Lenin created Marxism-Leninism for the third world. TLDR, if you are in a first world country you do social democracy, while if you are in a third world country you do Marxism-Leninism, simple as.
I think a party i am apart of is trying to exile me because they think im trying to cause a split
Has the Odyssey succeeding turned the mid terms at least +2 D just from that? The sheer aura loss the right is having from the movie, to /tv/ being downright melancholy over the film's success is weird as fuck to me because it looks like brownish overly serious tripe to me and yet the whole chudforce is shitting their pants over it.
>>2872588Alright, agree to agree, like you said, they are synonyms anyways, what is the point in changing the order of words or anything. Frankly I feel like it should be a synthesis of both. There is this false perception that to Marx and Engels, that revolution = insurrection when that is not what they said. You can advocate for revolution and "reformism" at the same time and I believe you can achieve revolution through democratic process and gradual reform. Even in the places like Russia and China where they had the successful insurrection they had to retreat to "reformism" as Lenin said in his NEP speech. Shocker, you can't just rebuild society from the ground up in one fell swoop.
The slogan of every real Marxist is โelectoralist/reformist social democracy in the first world, revolutionary Marxism-Leninism in the third worldโ.
>>2872593>vaguepostingok??? I don't know how I'm supposed to say anything interesting or insightful with this information. Thanks for letting us know.
>>2872595I seriously doubt online chud fights do anything irl
>>2872582The New Economic Program (1921) was a fully written work, not just a speech, and the section you are referencing titled "our mistake" was not a programme for the "third world" because that concept did not exist yet, and Russia at that time was a weird mixture of "1st world" and "3rd world" conditions depending on what part of the country you were in. Petrograd and Moscow were basically modern European cities but the peasantry was still 90% of the country, and electricity and running water were rare. A similar analogue is Afghanistan during the Saur revolution of 1979. Kabul was the petrograd of the Afghan socialist movement. Sadly, the USA armed the reacionaries and basically helped to empower what would become the Taliban. All to bait the USSR into a costly intervention. The same trick the USA used with Ukraine against the Russian federation btw.
>>2872600True. In some ways I think that the online chuds at least within the cartoon/comic/film space is kind of like their DEI department in the sense that they are barely tolerated by the big cheeses of online chuddery which is right-wing MMO/Moba/Shooter wing which is the real powerhouse. There is a reason why /v/ still has power and influence in politics while /tv/ memes are pretty much dead.
>>2872595as a historical accuracy nerd (and I know most people don't give a fuck about that)i wish eggers directed it. his autism about costumes and sets is unrivaled even though he only makes horror slop. As for Helen of Troy being black or whatever I don't really care about that. Helen of Troy might be too black to be Trojan but nobody complains when pasty anglos and germanics always play olive skinned medditerranean people going back decades.
>>2872599I have a variant of leninism/trotskyism applied to the specfic material conditions of several countries in my area with esperanto used to prevent language/ethnic nationalism (prevent yugoslav/soviet collapse). The org i am part of is international and trotskyist, i am currently in the process of finishing a book i am writting about it. Ppl in my party are acting sus
>>2872601>The New Economic Program (1921) was a fully written work, not just a speech, I was referencing the speech.
>and the section you are referencing titled "our mistake" was not a programme for the "third world" because that concept did not exist yet,I wasn't saying he used that terminology but ok. I know the history of worlds theory and etc.
>and Russia at that time was a weird mixture of "1st world" and "3rd world" conditions depending on what part of the country you were in.Now you're using it the same way. Akshually that concept didn't exist at that time so it couldn't be a combination of 1st and 3rd world and that's not what that terminology means!
>Petrograd and Moscow were basically modern European cities but the peasantry was still 90% of the country, and electricity and running water were rare. A similar analogue is Afghanistan during the Saur revolution of 1979. Kabul was the petrograd of the Afghan socialist movement. Sadly, the USA armed the reacionaries and basically helped to empower what would become the Taliban. All to bait the USSR into a costly intervention. The same trick the USA used with Ukraine against the Russian federation btw.Lot of little factoids and you don't draw it into any kind of point.
>>2872609>Now you're using it the same way. Akshually that concept didn't exist at that time so it couldn't be a combination of 1st and 3rd world and that's not what that terminology means!Sorry I should have just left out the pedantic part about the terms not existing yet because that wasn't meant to be my main point. Seriously sorry about that.
>>2872601>>2872609Anyways I was referencing not one section but a lot of different points he raised:
We Must Not Count On Going Straight To Communism
>We must not count on going straight to communism. We must build on the basis of peasantsโ personal incentive. We are told that the personal incentive of the peasants means restoring private property. But we have never interfered with personally owned articles of consumption and implements of production as far as the peasants are concerned. We have abolished private ownership of land. Peasants farmed land that they did not ownโrented land, for instance. That system exists in very many countries. There is nothing impossible about it from the standpoint of economics. The difficulty lies in creating personal incentive. We must also give every specialist an incentive to develop our industry.
>Have we been able to do that? No, we have not! We thought that production and distribution would go on at communist bidding in a country with a declassed proletariat. We must change that now, or we shall be unable to make the proletariat understand this process of transition. No such problems have ever arisen in history before. We tried to solve this problem straight out, by a frontal attack, as it were, but we suffered defeat. Such mistakes occur in every war, and they are not even regarded as mistakes. Since the frontal attack failed, we shall make a flanking movement and also use the method of siege and undermining. >>2872609it was meant to be conversational not pedantic but it came off as pedantic because I am probably undiagnosed autistic
>>2872614>Sorry I should have just left out the pedantic part about the terms not existing yet because that wasn't meant to be my main point. Seriously sorry about that.No worries, any conversation that isn't devolving into death threats and name-calling is a high water mark on this board.
>>2872615This is a fantastic section to quote because of his appeal to nonproletarian (specifically peasant) incentives. Especially the use of the word "incentives" which are always important to appeal to but I feel like I have trouble getting that across to comrades because they see the very word "incentives" as a corporate buzzword slop shibboleth, which it kind of is in the popular literature of today.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-canada-us-trade-tariffs-cusma-usmca-9.7276973>oh look one of the few oil supliers that might be able to sell us some quantity of oil Better tarrif them
>>2872623Good their stupidity will weaken the regime and inflame revolutionary sentiments. Long live the Butcher Donald
>>2872622>>2872624Its only good if we win
>>2872612he's right but he's so pasty and obviously rich that it's kinda pissing me off so w/e
>>2872629may the klanadians bend their southern counterparts over the proverbial oil barrel and fuck them vigorously
>>2872630well yeah it's an eceleb, waddya expect
>>2872622I like this party too.
>Have we been able to do that? No, we have not! We thought that production and distribution would go on at communist bidding in a country with a declassed proletariat. We must change that now, or we shall be unable to make the proletariat understand this process of transitionWhoah we declassed the proletariat! Now central planning will just twerk! Nope, actually it doesn't. This from the prophet Lenin's own mouth. "MLs" like to quote a lot of stuff said as pure hypotheticals but never what Lenin said about practical experience after winning the insurrection. We can win control of the country through the democratic processes or through insurrection but it doesn't solve any of the problems of how to actually reform society.
>>2872588Russia of the 1910's wasn't exactly a "third world" country, it was an imperialist power with wider ambitions that had a manufacturing base strong enough to participate in WWI on mass scale. Russia in WWI was the weakest European power but it was still dramatically well ahead of much of the world outside Europe as of the turn of the 20th century.
>>2872650Well the important thing is their government was an incompetent backwards shithole not relevant to anything in the year of our lord 2026.
I got a serious question for serious Russian late 19th century early 20th century knowers, what the fuck is up with "exile." Why was that a thing. Lemme tell you, I have real 21st century experience. They'll just kill you dawg. It's no problem for them. They've killed tons of opps and it barely even gets a mention.
>>2872656We all live by their good graces tbh. It's nothing for these people to kill you and get away with it.
>>2872656>>2872657Yeah that's exactly the same shit I point out when people think we should just repeat the 1917 formula. Lenin may have gotten thrown in jail. He may have gotten exiled. But he was never killed. In fact the only person who ever shot at him was a Socialist-Revolutionary woman. The tsarists just kept sending him to villages he easily escaped from. Lenin's older brother was executed, but only because he literally tried to kill the tsar with a bomb. The US prison system is so much more brutal. It's a nexus of rape and torture dungeons full of skinhead gangs and skinhead guards. And cops will just stomp your neck or shoot you full of lead for looking at them wrong. Completely different system. Not even getting into surveillance tech and drones.
>>2872658Look I know if you beef with the local gang or the local pilice department, THEY WILL KILL YOU. Now my belief is the feds will do the same but none of us even register to them, but if you do…
>>2872574aka deploy Longism for the USA
>>2872656>>2872657>>2872658not to mention the technological advances, along with the general capabilities of the surveillance state, and the fact that the us has gotten so accustomed to specifically countering these sociopolitical movements, they know how to deal with us inside and out. they wont just target the vanguard by killing their leaders or their core member (in this case, us), they'll tear apart the entire ideological foundation of our mass movement (if they even allow us to build one)
>>2872658Yeah someone like Fred Hampton if he was living in Tsarist Russia would have gotten sent to Siberia at most like Stalin did, but the US just went and killed him.
>>2872664Perfect example.
>>2872658The fact that psyop/honeypot far-left larper dudes get a sado-masochist martyrdom/persecution cuck fetish from innocent young women (particularly their girlfriends) getting arrested at dangerous larp protests and sent to lesbian rape dungeons A.K.A womenโs prisons, really makes me disgusted and want to vomit.
>>2872664Bastistas cuba was brutal and they still lost
>>2872656Maybe because of christianity or something the did it to criminals also
>>2872671I was reading about some women who the brought her the eyes of her brother that they tore off his face and she said
He didnt tell you anything and neither will i
Back on 8ch I remember this guy who got into some beef with his local police department. He was in a domestic dispute with his wife/ex-wife or something. Anyways, he was given a "hard ride" to the police department. This is just a term here in America, I'll let the LLM explain it.
>A "hard ride" (often referred to as a "rough ride", "nickel ride", or "screen test") is a controversial and illegal tactic used by some police officers in which an arrested suspect is placed in the back of a transport vehicle (such as a police van) without being properly secured by a seatbelt. The driver then intentionally drives aggressively, swerving, slamming on the brakes, or taking sharp turns at high speeds to throw the handcuffed suspect violently around the vehicle.The tactic has drawn significant legal and public scrutiny, as it serves as a form of street-level punishment or physical retribution against suspects. It is widely classified as a form of police brutality.
Well anyways, maybe I'm conflating multiple things, I'm trying to be as candid as possible, I remember I think him or someone else talking about how the local PD would have their friends target them and start fights with them and then the cops come and they arrest them, and say they started it. It's easy for the local PD to get away with anything because, who is going to investigate it? The local PD?
>>2872673Freddie Gray was killed that way if I remember right
>>2872673>He was in a domestic dispute with his wife/ex-wife or something. Anyways, he was given a "hard ride" to the police department. And he talked shit to them/pissed them off whatever. This is what I would never advise. No matter how much 'tude you have online, I wouldn't try to piss off cops to their face because they have absolute power over you and they are very vindictive.
>>2872677Yeah it's in the AI answer and the screenshot. I've been in the same spot in the back of a patrol car but they didn't give me a rough ride. I'm trying to be truthful and I really don't think they put the seatbelts on me.
>>2872679But I was handcuffed for sure, behind the back, no way to use your arms at all to brace yourself for sure. They tighten it until it's cinching into your flesh. It's very uncomfortable.
>>2872670I will do everything I can to make myself independent (in 3-4 years once I get my masters degree in history and start teaching history at a community college while I live in a studio apartment) from my parents so I can get a girlfriend (I will probably have to scrape the bottom of the barrel on dating websites, lol). Tragically, the chance of me getting the cute girl from the theatre class is very low but I will keep trying to talk to her as long as she is comfortable with it. Unless a miracle happens and I am able to start a friendship with her that slowly evolves into a relationship, I will eventually have to face the sad reality that it wonโt work with her, and I will have to settle for a girl vastly inferior to her.
>>2872681>>2872685No one fucking cares.
>>2872685What the fuck is that image supposed to represent, lol.
>>2872689Some spelunker died in a cave, how it relates to anything who knows. This faggot has a fairly odd parents profile image. It's all despicable faggots all the way down .
>>2872689>>2872691>tfw this guy was a MormonNot a big loss for music.
>>2872681>Unless a miracle happens and I am able to start a friendship with her that slowly evolves into a relationshipdoing this is incredibly noticeable and will just make her hate you
>>2872681>>2872704Shut the fuck up about his dude's imaginary dating drama. I am almost amused, this is very crazy about this dudes unrequited love has taken over this thread for days at a time. But at the same time, it is very gay, you are all very gay for taking this bait again and again. I don't like you. Stop doing this please. We have threads dedicated for you faggots to be as gay as you want to. Go there.
americans are fat and have explosive diarrhea
>>2872705I think my crush/limerence/love for the cute girl from the theatre class is more important then most of the crap that is discussed here, lol.
>>2872711You've proven it. I don't blame you, they come to you like flies to honey.
>>2872565TWism is only dangerous insofar as it might inspire a burger to shoot up a KFC or a Walmart. It's not impactful at all.
>>2872588Retarded take. You could only interpret Marx as saying that if your only interaction with his writing were the quotes posted by Dengoids on this board
>>2872681Sorry clittycel women will never date you because leftGODs get the girl
Just as a hypothetical what if we were all super revolutionary and we all started judging our positions on what kind of revolutionary(aka I have a firearms and I will put your brains on the floor) we have. I respect the legendary Felix for having his firearms. To be honest I don't have any for I don't want to kill anyone really but at the same time I don't feel pointing a firearm at people and pulling the trigger is rocket science. I used to play around with play rounds.
>>2872721Im revolutionary insofar that i have two felonies lmao. Not sure how that is going to help me but eh
Neocons must be exposed as they send America into another illegal war.
Zionist Jew YouTuber: "Claiming Jews were behind Iraq War is 'BLOOD LIBEL.'"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUA2Sy3jAZE&t=6013s(1:40:13)
>"oy vey goyim, let us lie and deceive the public and give us the oil and let us establish a rothschild bank"They aren't even making an effort to hide it anymore.
Total neocon death
PNAC was a terrorist group โ โNEW PEARL HARBORโ = 9/11 was a ZIONIST INSIDE JOB
Neoconservatism = Jewish supremacy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGVkNi3fcMwNeocons despise ordinary people. Leo Strauss saw himself and his students/cult followers as philosopher kings. Most neocons were former Trotskyists and Trotsky, likewise, HATED the working-class. This is largely because neoconservatism is an expression of Jewish supremacy. Jews believe they are the "CHOSEN PEOPLE" and seek to preserve their ethnocentrism and tribalism against the universal brotherhood of man brought into the world by Christ. You can't separate these things.
Fugging faggots. Yea, yeah.
>>2872734Philosopher kings are chads, idiot.
But like did any of you wanted to really say any faggotry commentary or something?
>>2872740Nah we gonna put them under the scorn of our disdain.
>>2872730Nah, im not a burger, they put me in a forensic nuthouse for 16 months though im definitely fucked if i repeat it cause the victim was (accidentally) a former cop
>>2872734>Zionist Jew YouTuber: "Claiming Jews were behind Iraq War is 'BLOOD LIBEL.'">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUA2Sy3jAZE&t=6013sHe's not wrong.
Also, claiming Marxism killed 800 bajillion people is also blood libel.
>>2872747
>antisemite is also anti-Black
SHOCKER, I say.
>>2872747
It's weird indeed but he has to suck up to the government for his visa
>>2872747
>Thirdworlists when the periphery capitalist country is an undeniable shithole
>>2872734>"wake up goyimm dese Jews is making us pure whites ruin our own countries and kill browns and destroy our based and christpilled nations, we is being forced into dis an sheeeitt"rightoids and their obsession with secret underground jew conspiracies. I'm not saying that the Rothschild's or the Jews are innocent, but these fags only seem to care about capitalist evil when its carried out by the chosen ones. and they frame everything like a secret conspiracy to kill whites. like its not hard to scientifically analyze interventionism or central banking or the hegemony of capital under the elites of political economy, and come to the conclusion that those things (which are open knowledge and overt pillars of the capitalist world order) are evil. they've got to make them into these underground plans designed for no reason other than to subjugate the herrenvolk.
they've rejected any scientific materialism in favor of their weird racialism. literally แดuแดlossnWs the lot of them. not surprised by that maupin sticker
I really do hate the term โMarxismโ. Itโs both incorrect and obnoxious. Youโre supposed to just say communism, which everyone is apparently too squeamish to utter the name of.
Lolbertarian slander.
Pre-Milei inflation was the result of a particularly severe drought in a country that is almost entirely dependent on agriculture, the pandemic, the situation in Ukraine, foreign-currency debt caused by Macri, and a long list of other factors. โMoney printingโ did not cause inflation; in fact, interest rates were raised at that time, and inflation worsened. Thatโs the excuse neolibs always use to justify zero-deficit policies, shock doctrines, and massive privatizations. The only sectors growing in Milei Argentina are agriculture (which is cyclical by natureโthe first half of the year goes well and the second half goes badly), mining (public investment by previous administrations and concentrated in a few provinces), and finance (a credit card debt bubble thatโs going to end badly). All these sectors generate very few jobs, and everything that does generate employment is either declining or stagnatingโitโs literally the โGDP cow shitโ meme.
>>2872740>kingsFeudal cuckery
>>2872789>Floyd, GeorgeI'm glad Kirk got assasinated in 4K lmao
>>2872691The pfp is actually of the series Danny Phantom, made by the same Christian who made The Fairly OddParents
>>2872824I regularly point out to libs/rightoids that are pro America people, because "it's still the most free country etc" how it has the world's largest prison population, it's like it doesn't register for them at all, they just are like "well don't commit crimes then", or "well we need laws to keep us safe", I'm sure if they saw this they would also try to defend it somehow
>>2872827>I'm sure if they saw this they would also try to defend itWell have you tried pointing it out to them. Regularly?
>>2872711It's not. You'll fumble completely and have neither a gf or an ideology.
>>2872834Since Argentinians are just the Amerikkkans of South Amerikkka, they cheer, cry, and shit their diapers out of happiness because of this. Now that monthly inflation is down to 1.7%, the country is doing well, and it is definitely not because people are unable to buy shit.
So how bad is the oil suppy shock going to be
Reminder to buy as much fuel as you can before it runs out!
>>2872834The fact that rightiods are seen as money uyghas must be the worse part of living.
>>2872815Critical support for the black Israelites exposing these zionist fake jewish kkkrackers
>>2872893(his death was a lot more slow, horrifying, and painful than this youtube is capable of conveying, and the worst part is there were multiple times they had almost pulled him out and saved him, only for him to fall back in)
>>2872789mamdani, Floyd, and the Amazon labor union are the biggest terroristic threats to this administration ๐ญ๐ maybe we overestimating our opponents y'all
>>2872876yes indeed. inflation down, but poverty is up. not to mention all the deregulation and other retarded lolbert shit he did will continue to have effects long after he's gone. its going to get worse from here on out. cant say I wont be watching with glee
>>2872789Holy shit these people are pathetic. They think fearmongering about the mayor of New York is gonna get anybody to listen to them when their presidentโs approval rating is 35%?
>>2872789the national lawyers guild? since when have we been getting pro bono legal services thats great
>>2872916Total socdem death
>>2872926Oh no, not the Democrats "national brand". The time honored election winning tradition of constantly shifting to the right
>>2872928Who is this even for?
I can get the red baiting but this all seems so flailing and toothless.
>>2872946
Some others think strongman capitalism with welfare is communism!
>>2872588>Marxโs programme for the first world was essentially modern social democracyI hate thirdworldists
>>2872953
pirate captains were generally democratically elected by the crew. If they didn't like how he divided the spoils they'd just throw him overboard
>>2872959
they got their plunder from attacking imperialists. Pirate as a term actually came about in a similar manner as terrorist in the current day
>>2872915>Communism is on the ballot>This is a threat to our freedom>Which is why we must suspend the electionThis is going to be the play
>>2872961>This is going to be the playyep trump learned from Zelensky that elections are optional when fighting a war
>>2872928Americans are fleeing america. Checkmate GOP.
>>2872976Theyโre stupid and canโt see that the DSA will save both the Dems and American Imperialism, getting a whole new generation invested in planetary treat rape
>exchanges your commodities for dollars at gunpoint
moralists think this is rape
>>2872981The โat gunpointโ makes it rape
>>2872928>"We are going to do a terrible thing to youโwe are going to deprive you of an enemy."-Georgy ArbatovThe Soviet diplomat was 100% correct, this looks like an old man yelling at the clouds. Without the USSR, redbaiting doesn't work. Both redscare 1 and 2 had the USSR in the background to be able to point and now they don't have that.
>>2872985Instead all they can point to is China which is doing better than America, and Cuba/DPRK, which are obviously struggling because of American sanctions/embargoes.
hi
>>2872815unironically 100% correct
>>2873002If China starts partisan cells in the US, do you guys think the people will join?
Asking for a friend.
>>2872979>>2872943the statements/articles are GOP strategists putting out signals that DNC strategists will see, in attempt to scare the DNC/consultant class into thinking the DSA will cost them the midterms and hoping they'll keep lashing out and upping the effort to ratfuck the DSA to save the party from the "crisis". it's a maneuver hoping to strategically exacerbate the divide in the Democrat ranks more than an attempt to convince the general public of anything
>>2872981What's wrong with rape?
>>2873008no need. USA is already dengist
>>2873006Yes and thatโs literally what happens, unless you have nuclear weapons youโre forced
>>2873008>If X fantasy happened, what if Y fantasy happenedWhat if Pikachu appeared and then did his special move?
>>2873015It would be SUPER EFFECTIVE!
>>2873007Abrahamic Schizophrenia is Abrahamic Schizophrenia whether it comes in African or European flavor. Not sorry.
>>2873019Im really sick of the dncs who think just doing 70% of what the far right does is the way to go
>>2873007>>2872815>Africans and Europeans with zero connection to the levant compete to larp as the TRVE levantines because their belief in a genocidal abrahamic war deity compels them to act stupid in publicsad shit
>>2873024>70%they do 100% of the same shit, they just do it more politely and pretend to be "inclusive" about it
>>2873020>free trade euroidsThat is a reason why the hormuz is blocked, to make sure everyone get fucked
>>2873031
What are you going to do about it?
>>2873031
I thought I was a pirate
>>2873037
>I donโt have to do anything; youโll collapse and kill yourself on your own
sadly that's not true. get off your ass and start killing. stop being so weak.
>>2873037
Good luck with your plan.
>>2873044
I am not fat and do not eat burger. I will oppress you and live forever unless you actually do class struggle. Get off your ass and kill me already, """"""thirdie.""""""" any excuse to sit on your ass, eh? maybe you are fat and also in a basement in tel aviv posting this tripe. Maybe langely.
>>2873047
I will never touch drugs. I will keep oppressing you unless you actually do class struggle. But you won't. you aren't actually a third worlder. you are a CIA agent or a mossad agent shitposting to pass time
>>2872926This is drenched in desperation
>>2873052I say this and I look like this.
The only penance both you individually and as a society can do is die
>>2873065penance is for losers and wads and i wont
>>2873066A lot of the New York people moving to Miami probably.
>>2873068>>2873069The red army will not show any mercy
>>2873066Wealthy have been flooding Florida since COVID and now it is getting even more expensive
>>2873078The same one from 1945, bigger, better, and made of everyone from all over the world except for you
>>2873080JDPON is not a joke itโs a necessity
>>2873065i won't do "penance" because I am not a christcuck. you have already said I am hitler so come bomb the shit out of me. get the allies together and bomb us hitlerites. you won't do it because you live here just like i do. you are in a basement in langely or tel aviv. you are not a real third worlder. but if you are you are weak because you are begging your class enemy to exhibit christlike mercy. that is naive and weak. the worst combo in this world. you will get the darwin award if you don't kill me right the fuck now. kill me and my family and seize my means of production """"thirdie""""
>>2873091Post your address coward ill come
>>2873094Itโs being formed in Iran as we speak
skyfall > casino royale > no time to die > spectre >>>>>>> the other one
>>2873100
Too far and youโre in Wisconsin, a drunk driver will do the work for me
>Health care is probably the issue that least differentiates the DSA from the Democratic Party. If you favor public ownership of the means of production or believe forming coalitions with communists is important, then joining the DSA makes a lot of sense. But deciding to be a democratic socialist because you care about universal health care is like ditching a Toyota for a Rolls-Royce because you want your car to have a steering wheel.Kinda hard to believe these are the best arguments Porky has against socialism, like what? Obviously people would rather have a Rollie over a toyota lmao
https://archive.is/BSldR >>2873102>Too far Lol. Poor fag.
>>2872926Also if the GOP is already radicalized why the fuck do you care if the dems are too? This is just the schmittian friend-enemy splitting taking place in real time and unless you fix the material reality of americans (which you won't fucking do because you're a habermasian-rawlsian bastard hybrid) schmittian polarization will happen as surely as the sun rises in the east!
>>2873101I never saw no time to die, I just posted it because of the title.
>>2873101james bond is a twink in the new game
the black tech geek girl is a tomboy nerd
they made bond a woke twink and it's basically a beat em up
>>2873102>i wont do class struggleweak
>>2873108Better than all the FPS bond games
>>2873110yeah i'm just riffin it looks fun. I liked bully and sleeping dogs back in the day
>>2873100
Why dox yourself leftychud?
Retardmaxxing much?
>>2873113i just looked up pornhub studios on google maps and posted their address lol
>>2873116I deleted it because I think some kid just went on google maps and i actually labeled their personal house pornhub studios as a bit
>>2873118>pornhub is physically located in the drunkest stateTruly its all rape
>>2873122
what's the KGB equivalent of james bond
Sorry, not that one, forgot which. I remember it had a ski level.
>>2873125They donโt have one because theyโre a collectivist organization
>>2873114nevermind, keep up the revolutionary praxis comrade!
>>2873128The red army marches on comrade!
actual third worlders: please just leave us alone and stop bombing sanctioning and couping us for 5 seconds so we can live normal lives
first world kids larping as third worlders online: actually i am going to kill all 340 million americans with my bare hands, post your address
>>2873132it really do be like that frfr one might even say trvke
>>2873095>Post your address coward ill comeGoing through a thang
but I gotta snap back
Give it all to God,
it's the pistol,
put the crack back
>>2873130That last photo is proof you will never look as good as a russian jew in a nazi uniform.
James Bond can't boast meeting Neil Armstrong.
Ironic Sean Connery starred in a Soviet movie called Red Tent (1969).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anxBeXT7YGU&t=2368s >>2873137we would never agree on what type of gun to bring
>>2872734Michael Millerman holds the same NazBol views that Maupin does.
>>2873137the spaghetti westerns had so much aura for their time. kurosawa shit too. i know that's like a midwit room temperature take but i stand by it.
>>2872985>>2873002China/DPKR etc do not work for redbaiting because they are just auraless and purely self interested. No spamming of gigaxi or ominous dramatic light office Xi will make up for this.
The USSR was a promethean force comparable to the Jacobins and the Bornapartists spearheaded by cultured savages and they also had great aesthetic: they matterred.
Nothing about "win-win exchanges", "belt and roads initiative", "singapor with red flags" is inspiring or really worth dying for unless you are from the place in question. It's good efficient management but it's just management at the end of the day.
Why do "western leftists" scare Elon Musk and the GOP so much while they have no problem bowing to Chinese politicians? Because obnoxious western leftists are inheritors of the Bolsheviks from Lenin to Breznhev in a way China havent ben since the split.
>>2873147>Why do "western leftists" scare Elon Musk and the GOP so much while they have no problem bowing to Chinese politicians? Because obnoxious western leftists are inheritors of the Bolsheviks from Lenin to Breznhev in a way China havent ben since the split.as a westoid leftoid you give us too much honor. we are not that scary. they are simply more scared of us than the chinese because we occupy the same stolen land as them. we might actually show up at their mcmansions whereas the chinese will not. it's that shrimple.
>>2872985the USSR do be americas carthage
I'm still thinking about how Trump took a bunch of tech CEOs on his trip to China for seemingly no reason. Was there some kind of plot being hatched on Air Force 1 while they were in transit and that was the real purpose?
>>2873103the implication that your current car doesn't have a fucking steering wheel
yes that's a goddamn dealbreaker for a car like wtf are they smoking
>>2873147>Why do "western leftists" scare Elon Musk and the GOP so much while they have no problem bowing to Chinese politicians?Because they and they alone possess the most lethal and crushing outcome for them.
>>2873147They arenโt, itโs kayfabe and youโre willingly falling for it to cover for the abject failure of the western left
>>2873153>>2873144>shit that makes you say "hell yeah!"I love that fucking movie. I was going to say I like Once Upon a Time in the West better.
Now I have to post the real IRL king.
This is what America is all about.
>>2872926Curious about the ML section of DSA. Are the SocDems in control of the organization or does it feel like people actually turn more radical inside?
>>28731691 american 19 year old died. this is an afront. an outrage. we must blow up a million more minab girl schools and give a trillion more dollars to israel or something
>>2873147you have it completely backwards. they bow to chinese politicians because they know there is absolutely nothing they can do about whatever china does now. they make up propaganda about western leftists meanwhile because it is free spectacle and helps to justify attempts at threatening liberal democracy
>hurr durr amerigans bow to chinese politicians
do they tho
do they really
they formally shake hands and bow yes but then they go on fox news and say china stole all our freedoms n jobs n sheeit
>>2873169I remember on bluesky, some libs were assuming she could've been some DACA or child of undocumented immigrants implying she was coerced into joining but by going by her family in that video she obviously was a Tejano that comes from a military legacy background.
>>2873183Yes. Millennials did Occupy Wall St. Millennials did CHAZ CHOP and all the Floyd Riots. Millennial extremism is the specter haunting America. It is only a matter of time before they do it again.
>>2873183>radicalizedNever happened. DSA immediately cucks out under the most limpdick of pressure.
>Hehe communism is actually bad everywhere but my version of it is based please take my apology for my xeets >>2873183>DSA>"radicalized"I must've missed that memo lol
>>2873177Watch what they do, not what they say. The moneychangers in the temple can hue and cry about muh Chyna all day, doesnโt change the fact that they know China has won and are scrambling to get into the good graces of the same Orientals they publicly disparage
>>2873188All of which accomplished nothing except allowing the deep state to install Biden
>>2873194not only did they fail to actually do shit, it was somehow big enough to get the assholes in power a reason to start cracking even harder on anything even remotely left of capital.
>>2873177See
>>2873147 the US political class yells about China but still does business and have close ties vs if ties like that were caught with a Soviet politician, it would be the end of someone's career and proof of being a commie.
>>2873195>>2873194I thought you guys wanted an insurrection?
>>2873188Zoomers will finish the job because Millennials are burnt out
>>2873199CHAZ wasnโt an insurrection, just wealthy white anarcho-Nazis burning down peopleโs homes and running out of food on the second day because the lumpen they invited into their little LARP zone stole it all and fucked off lol
>>2873201Donโt forget straight up executing two black teenagers then trying to destroy all evidence of the murder
An insurrection in the imperial core would require at minimum decades of brutal and all-encompassing protracted warfare, the liquidation of 75%-90% of the golden billion and the rest reduced to proletarian living standards. But none of you are ready for that conversation
>>2873201CHAZ was in downtown Seattle. Literally the CH stands for Capitol Hill. Unfortunately they didn't burn down a single building.
there he is. there he is. get im out of here
>>2873210Your life chud. She died for your right to post that.
Dude needs to be involuntarily committed
>>2873206america descends into chaos the moment the rest of the world embargos the inflow of treats
>>2873214He would need to do something IRL.
>>2873212True an iranian ccp missle would have hit my isp if not for her
>>2873214He is obsessed with a grocer named Miles
>>2873204Ironically the liquidation of two treatlerites of color was by far the most communist thing CHAZ ever accomplished
>>2873214They hated the Latinx because xe told them the truth
>>2873222I dont think its felix, think its the "you are epstine" "euroamerikan" guy
Felix didnt really accuse people of being pedofiles
And this guy mever mentions cpusa which torments felixs mind
I think felix gave up on posting tbh
Havent seen chagos either
>>2873171>The Chinese go for a bright, unthreatening "fun" aesthetic yes compared to the barbaric Russians.Cuz it's what they are, really. There is nothing behind the mask. Hence why Red Scare But It's China Now don't work.
>>28731832008 was a very radicalizing experience for millenials. Both the left and chuds wouldnt exist without it, everyone would still be sensible center left to neocons, Charlie Kirk would alive and making videos about leftists being the real nazis etc.
>>2873227Yeah def not Felix. Felix will actually engage and doxx his whole life. This guy is a pure larper.
>>2873219crazy to think she was either ragdolled or pulverized
>>2873151It is inevitable that someone is going to take advantage of this and become left-Trump. Very likely a billionaire,Military guy or celebrity.
>>2873206So the same as a revolution in in the periphery lmao
>>2873183>>2873188>>2873189>>2873190>>2873231excuse YOU this is just GENPOL there is no meaningful difference in generational politics or attitudes
>>2873236Revolutions in the periphery lifted hundreds of millions out of extreme poverty, cute attempt at equivocation though
>>2873170Adding to this, I would include this post as a preface:
>>2863918It is by wise opinion that Adam Smith (1776) himself is the father of modern socialism. A famous English liberal, J.S. Mill, also promoted socialism (1848):
<The form of association, however, which if mankind continue to improve, must be expected in the end to predominate, is not that which can exist between a capitalist as chief, and work-people without a voice in the management, but the association of the labourers themselves on terms of equality, collectively owning the capital with which they carry on their operations, and working under managers elected and removable by themselves.https://oll.libertyfund.org/titles/mill-principles-of-political-economy-ashley-ed#lf0199_label_1041Jevons (1870) as a follower of Mill is then proceeding from this. I am currently going through the Liberal Party's "Yellow Book" (1928) on industrial reform, which apparently promoted public ownership of industry. So if I find this to be the case, I will add it to the list. I have recently happened upon this text by Jefferson (1785):
<The property of this country is absolutely concentered in a very few hands […] means of silently lessening the inequality of property is to exempt all from taxation below a certain point, and to tax the higher portions of property in geometrical progression as they rise. Whenever there is in any country, uncultivated lands and unemployed poor, it is clear that the laws of property have been so far extended as to violate natural right. The earth is given as a common stock for man to labour and live on.https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch15s32.htmlWhich appears in continuity with Franklin (1783):
<All the Property that is necessary to a Man, for the Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other Laws dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it.https://press-pubs.uchicago.edu/founders/documents/v1ch16s12.htmlThe right to private property has always been treated as a condition of public benefit, such as in Aristotle and Cicero - and in Locke, we see how the exclusion of the commons unites itself back into common use by trade, which is the standard liberal argument, down to Bastiat (1850). Tawney (1926) reinvents the wheel by his idea of the "Functional Society" as the legitimate basis of right. Interestingly, Hayek was fond of Tawney, and we read in this splendid blog; the reformism of the Austrian School:
https://socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogspot.com/2010/10/friedrich-von-wieser-and-eugen-von.html?m=1I have shown that Engels regarded marginal theorists as "disguised" Marxists who may build a "vulgar socialism":
>>2859866This can be seen as early as Gossen's suggestion for land reform (1852). The genuine Liberal then is always a social reformer seeking freedom. ๐๐
>>2873241Russia was never periphery.
>>2873253Thatโs because Vietnam is Titoist not Communist
>>2873249You are proving the point that China/DPRK/Vietnam are not the USSR. Even when they tried their best with the nuclear DPRK, because of its size, no one believes any redbaiting that DPRK can do anything compared to how COD and Battlefield try to rev up DPRK and KJU as the greatest threat to humanity
>>2873254The prison of nations
>>2873254it was imperial periphery like israel is today
>>2873147>Because obnoxious western leftists are inheritors of the Bolsheviks from Lenin to Breznhev in a way China havent ben since the split.The TRVKE that destroyed leftypol
>>2873149The USSR is Rome, America is Carthage, just imagine if Carthage was same size as the roman empire.
Also leftychuds, don't forget how USSR inherited the anglo animosity against the russian empire. It's all clash of civilizations mackinder spengler stuff mixed with anticommunism.
>>2873268gran torino is a terrible movie
The person above me is either baiting or retarded
>>2873261the value extracted from imperial russia through western railroads and investment starting the 1880's vastly outnumbered what russia was getting from the rest of the planet through trade, they were clearly periphery thanks to the technology disparity between the two regions
>>2873255>>2873259who cares, i'll take anything at this point
>opportunismquit shrieking and do real bolshevism
>>2873273no not you why did you have to reply
>>2873251at least he say something interesting. most of you just spam two word putdowns and bounce
>>2873278If you think Nazism and Communism are interchangeable then youโre beyond saving
>>2873273>gran torino is a terrible movieI'm the guy you replied to and I was just joking. I hated that trash when it came out.
>>2873269>Lenin is NAFOmany such cases
>>2873270>The USSR is Rome, America is CarthageThis is the true comparison even down to Russia inherenting the Byzentine Empire essentially
>>2873273Clint's talent took a dive after the 90s. He made #girldad #civicnationalism #unc cinema after that.
>>2873233And its crazy how they are like "she was so brave"
We just know she was there we don't if she was screaming crying coping seething or staring at a radar screen stoicaรฑรฑy watching the impact get closer we do know that she should have been somewhere esle
>>2873281>china is heckin hitler>vietnam is heckin hitlerall you guys do is dilute how bad nazism was by comparing it to everything
>>2873286and america being a maritime commercial power like both britain and carthage were
>>2873293Truly channeling the petit-bourgeoisie of the Jacobins. Mamdani is Robespierre
>>2873283Matt Yglesias is making jokes I never thought he would make
>>2873290It's not the problem in itself, he was already a civic nationalist during his peak era. It's when you mix it with the other # that it becomes super AIDS.
>>2873295I don't know who that is. What are you a big Gran Torino fan? It's been like nearly two decades since I saw it, I guess I could give it another spin and a second opinion.
>>2873294Mamdani is Danton.
Tyler Robinson is Marat.
Who will be our Louis Marie Turreau?
>>2873273Probably the best modern reactionary movies out there are Dragged Across Concrete and Bone Tomahawk.
also I'm gonna see The Odyssey in a bit, will tell you guys if its good.
>>2873298when did I say I was a big gran torino fan? I just said it was a shit movie.
>>2873298I see it recently with my zoomer gf. She learned so many new slurs. 10/10
>>2873305Bugs, easy on the carrotsโฆ
>>2873170Liberal socialism is retarded, even rawls realized the difference principle is unworkable which is how he ended up reconstructing in Justice Restated either a "property owning democracy" - aka unstable situation where everyone is petit boug before it all coalesces into boug vs proletariat, or recreate yugoslavia with "liberal market socialism" before the whole thing tore itself apart because every "worker-owned commune" ended up fighting each other.
>>2873302Ok I was wondering why you're calling me Matthew Yglesias who I don't know anything about other than he wrote the book with the amusing title.
>>2873301I have been quite disapointed at Zahler's output honestly. His movies have many good scenes and unlike other contemporary rightoid artists he understand that you actually need the ENNEMY to be SCARY and COOL to induce fear and stakes. But the final result just look like some direct-to-dvd bullshit from the early 2000s that drag on and on for 2 and a half hours.
>>2873307whats a good historic source on the yugos?
>>2873310This. Been meaning to start studying Yugoslavia but never knew where to start and which sources to trust
>>2873277Lenin characterized Russia as an imperialist nation rather than as an oppressed nation in nearly all his writings on the subject matter. And yes, imperialist nations are capable of exploiting each other.
>>2873308oh i just noticed. I meant to reply to this
>>2873293 >>2873306/lit/ bros remember this before "big chungus"
>>2873295You know his grandfather was in the CPUSA
>>2873310>>2873311https://www.jstor.org/stable/j.ctv15r57gftl;dr workers owned organizations behaved exactly like capitalist actors, restricting employment, voting to reward themselves with higher wages instead of capital investment, and resisted equalizing investment from rich northern republics to the poorer and unindustrialized southern ones.
In case you ever meet a syndicalist IRL you can safely dismiss them as the same idiots who lead to srebrenica
>>2873318That explain his obsession with compromise, compromise, compromise, moderating, compromising etc.
>>2873319>worker owned organizations behave exactly like worker owned stateswow. crazy. guess we need global simultaneous proletarian revolution. don't put on your oxygen mask until everyone else does
>>2873307>liberal market socialismInteresting, this seems to be what Jacobin & co. are pushing via Vivek Chibber
>>2873333You're being intentionally facetious confusing a balm for whats needed now, with the entire telos of society. Worker-owned organizations cannot be the endpoint because there are still coordination problems to resolve. But are they better than a dictatorship of the boug? Yes absolutely.
>>2873333Are you stupid or dumb? Thatโs not what theyโre saying at all.
>>2873338Its what happens to uyghas who don't read theory, don't observe empirical outcomes and don't respect history.
>>2873347>read theoryI live real life. It's not theoretical.
>>2873349Standpoint epistemology eh? Please don't tell me you're going to cite Robin DiAngelo on me.
>>2873353I'm not gonna cite anything at you dawg. You are going to lose in the shootout. That's real life dawg. Your theory won't help you.
>>2873167Socdems are in control, but you have various "caucuses" within it. Tbh it does seem like it is becoming more "radical," but sucdemist incrementalism is still the rule of the day.
>>2873356A hardcover copy of Capital can stop a .22lr bullet
when are mods gonna get rid of TOR? i haven't seen a single normal glowanon
>>2873361I would use it if not for this spammer gets the tor node immediately banned every time it's open.
>>2873361I donโt know. It definitely should be permanently removed at this point.
>>2873361Glowanons always seem the most deranged and sociopathic
>>2873356I'm not sure what point you're making here. I'm saying that liberal socialism has severe incentive flaws built into its structure that result in the centrifugal tendencies that tore apart yugoslavia. I criticized Chibber for essentially proposing it again. And then you're saying that theory doesn't matter because I'm going to be shot?
>>2873361Or at least put in a filter that recognizes goreposting
>>2873378
why are you posting gore now?
>>2873381I didn't say a word about warfare (except srebrenica at the end of the yugoslav experiment) and how on earth did you read that I'm a bloodthirsty maniac who wants constant warfare from my critique of Rawls and Chibber
>>2873380Because they are a sociopathic glowie whose brain got wired wrong
Everyone on this board needs to read Jacques Camatte
>>2873385Alright, fair enough, present to me your programme in simple terms instead of obscure references.
>>2873389Social control over the means of production also requires coordination on the level of society. Simply putting employees in charge of enterprises incentivizes trade-union style thinking and a beggar-thy-neighbour attitude towards your fellow human being because the incentives of unrestricted growth, market share, and the attempts to escape the tendency of profit rates to fall are still present. Therefore whilst worker owned enterprises are signficantly superior to boug-owned enterprises, they are necessary but not sufficient in constructing a sustainable political economy.
>>2873395And how do you reach your utopian vision from 7/21/2026?
>>2873387the holocaust denier guy? begone glowfag
>>2873396
thank you for posting the link to that get thread anon, I will now proceed to….. beat my dingaling to some young anime boys!
>>2873368its because the only people who actually use the TOR node are 4channers, who are really really obsessed with this site for whatever reason
>>2873404The tor node is used by regular users, but the fact is this spammer will always find when it has been unbanned in a split second because they are checking this site 24/7 then they get it banned like it is now.
>>2873397In the context of the imperial core right now? Build the worker's owned enterprises but dont ever confuse a tool with the end state of society. The primary contradiction in the west is the boug running an empire; if and when the workers take power the primary contradiction will shift. If you start with a liberal socialist model of the type proposed by Rawls (and presumably Chibber), that primary contradiction is that market mechanics of a socialist market economy still endogenouslyl generate the TPRF, which in turn drives the exclusionary pressures that wrecked yugoslavia.
(Assuming you don't live in a vanguardist state)
>>2873376You're arguing with a schizo and I am the anon who brought up Chibber. not even sure why the schizo felt the need to respond to you
>>2873399Thatโs an anonymous piece, no one has ever linked it directly to Camatte
>>2873410Who the fuck is chigger?
thank you for killing Mr gore spammer, jannies <3
Read Afinogenov
>Telling โYanksโ to go home is racist, tribunal rules
>Pizza Express waiter awarded more than ยฃ5,000 after verbal tirade from colleague left him feeling โhurt and humiliatedโ hey guys be nice
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/07/16/telling-yanks-to-go-home-is-racist-tribunal-rules/ >>2873293Its not such a bad idea dealing with local businesses fairly might be a good way to get a locally politically powerful sector on your side or placate and this shit has zero political cost
Maybe in the future this sort of strategy might lock in a party into market. Socialism because it would be kinda hard to 180 from supporting small businesses to going full planned socialism
>>2873339>Worker-owned organizations cannot be the endpoint because there are still coordination problems to resolve. But are they better than a dictatorship of the boug? Yes absolutely.True. Why not just put it that way from the beginning
>>2873340Never mind
>>2873410I am an idiot, mega dumdum after all :(
>>2873411That's rawl's even stupider "property owning democracy" though. And obviously vibes don't work against material reality of incentive design.But I'm not sure what your point is - reformism isnt a sustainable path so therefore I am going to be lined up and shot like Henk Sneevliet?
>>2873433You will be lined up and shot like Riggatonio.
>>2873406the gore spammer on tor has a script I bet. It's probably running whether the node is banned or not
>>2873434i cooka da spaghetti
>>2873453no they make different typos. its a real guy.
>>2873486>>2873486Damn zios in america are really soft and pathetic
>we didn't get permission to walkout i guess its over >>2873490the real divide in the modern world is bitch ass whiners vs schizophrenic individualist terrorists
I only vote for social democrats to make neoliberals seethe, I don't care how le reformist it is, pissing off centrists is always fun.
>>2873509Didn't your whole department get fired after the current admin's USAID cuts?
>>2873508>I don't care how le reformist it is, pissing off centrists is always funThat's what fuels MAGA, they don't care how badly Trump is fucking up, as wrong as he makes the libs seethe. You now understand the feeling and it is addicting
>>2873527I guess but the worst demsuccs are gonna do is… be democrats??
>>2873523>The U.S. along with Arab states worry the conflict could spiral out of control if Israel joins the current round of fightingseems like they got asked to sit this one out
https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/why-israel-is-sitting-out-the-latest-u-s-bombing-campaign-in-iran-55713b77 >>2873530Read a fucking book. This goddamn website man I fucking cant. What is even the point.
>>2873522look at the post i am replying to instead of taking the joke seriously
>>2873551what book; I just wanna learn?
If you're voting only because it pisses off some annoying people (I enjoy that too) at least it seems like democratic socialists will be less damaging than Trumpists?
>>2873558you replied to the wrong post
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>everyone on leftypol supports CSAM
<O rly? why?
>because the jannies who couped the original jannies refuse to remove the link to an even less active dying imageboard that has a thread with questionable drawings
cringe but also nothingburger
i've been trying to do research for an essay looking for actual legitimate sources like digitized texts from written literature and academic papers and scientific journals and pre-internet news articles and things like that, and it's just straight up impossible to use the internet for this now, absolutely everything that might be even remotely-credible as a source is locked behind paywalls by a zillion different private companies. i would have to sign up for a subscription and fill in my credit card details and lock myself into an annual contract to each and every source that i want to read or cite, that's just insane and not even an affluent individual who could afford the cost would be willing to endure all that hassle just to write one fucking essay.
it's no wonder that misinformation and fringe bullshit is so prevalent now, why people get all their facts from social media influencers and other charlatans instead of doing their own research - because they can't do their own research even if they wanted to, our society has defunded things like public education and public libraries to the point where they are practically worthless and sealed off the entire internet to everyone who isn't part of the academic or financial elite, only people who work in prestigious universities or corporate-funded think tanks are exempt from the paywalls and allowed free access to these kinds of sources through financial partnerships between the organizations.
the internet is dead, and not in the way that stupid fringe conspiracy weirdos say it is dead, where everything has been replaced by robots or some such nonsense, but dead as a public resource, closed to most of the public. in the early era of the internet it was built up into a public commons by naive optimistic people who trusted that the forces of free market capitalism would carry on their legacy after they were gone, and then those people got old and retired or died and the next generation who took their place were just soulless greedy vultures who looted the commons of everything they could get their hands on and locked it up in vaults so nobody else could touch it. it's all fucking gone, it's just a shopping mall now.
what are we supposed to do about this? cut our losses and abandon the internet and return to the old ways of conducting research, go our local public libraries? the last time i went to a public library was sort of like looking at the book aisle in a goodwill store or the libraries they have for inmates in a typical county jail, nothing but evangelical christian books and self-help books and conservative political pundit books and old trashy fiction books that were on supermarket shelves over a decade ago, all the junk that couldn't be sold for more than a dollar. i can't even imagine what would happen if you talked to the librarian to ask for recommendations about some academic subject you are studying, they'd probably just stare at you like a dog being shown a card trick.
there's nothing left now, it's just an intellectual wasteland. investing so heavily in the internet fucked us over, we hedged our bets on this seemingly-public resource and defunded and abandoned the seemingly-obsolete pre-digital alternatives because we were so confident and optimistic about how much better and faster and more democratic and open the internet would be, and now it's too late to go back and we're completely fucked. and AI is just the next phase of this, abandoning the idea of independent research entirely to place all of our trust in google, microsoft, anthropic, and facebook and their AI models as not only the sole sources of all of our information, but the sole sources of human thought in general, deferring all of our reasoning and perception to them and letting our own brains atrophy so that we aren't even really human beings anymore, we are just automatons guided entirely by the will of a few trillionaires.
>>2873592legit info is paywalled, piracy is illegal for the common man, trillion dollar corporations get to steal everyone's data and pirate everything to feed AI models, the data centers are literally more destructive than productive … shit is crazy
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