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>>2117556https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsJOIN LIVE AND CHAT OF LEFTYPOL
>>2119233This doesn't really work when they can wipe any dissent clean from the internet or go door to door with terrifying accuracy thanks to everyone having a surveillance device in their pocket and AI haphazardly labelling anyone a potential threat from any anti-state sentiment.
The future of mankind is the few bright and just minds left being stomped into bloody paste because GPT4 hallucinated them having pro-union stances
>>2119239an essential part of any leftist platform going forward should be Logging off and being less dependent on technology
probably impossible except for eccentric weirdos at this point though. I'm still here posting.
>>2119242THEY ARE ALL NAZIS
THEY SUPPORT AZOV
THEY SUPPORT ISRAEL
THEY ARE
ALL GOING MASK-OFF
>>2119242honestly it would be more productive to move away from the
>it's not even le heckin subtle anymore wtf??thing. they're clear about their intentions and they have been for the past 10+ or so years
>>2119241The problem with this is that they can make being online a prerequisite to finding employment, housing, buying food, etc. Things can and will get more stupid. And even if you're off grid, you can just be ratted out or spied upon by normies with smartphones reporting you.
Fascism isn't a real political system, it's more like an ideological wildfire, franticly burning through everything until nothing is left but ruins and ashes. What grows from there depends on if there's anyone left to rebuild.
Things will get more intense and more oppressive than you can possibly imagine.
>>2119249It's more accurate to say we've moved from the early-middle stages of fascism into the destructive endgame. It's not 1933 like some liberals think. It's 1940 and shit is about to ramp up hard.
guys my theory is that he didnt do it on purpose. hear me out hes unironically autistic, sometimes they just sperg out and do weird shit for no reason. i think he was trying to strike a cool pose and that was the first thing that came to mind, kind of like a disco elysium failed roll
>AUTHORITY [MEDIUM : FAILURE] - That was a mighty good speech, Elon boy, everyone's looking at you like they're proud. Quick, do a cool pose, like, uhhh, one of those german soldiers
<ENCYCLOPEDIA - You mean the nazis? That is absolutely not a good idea, please don't tell me you're about to do a nazi salute on national television, do *anything* but a nazi salute.
<REACTION SPEED [IMPOSSIBLE : FAILURE] - I have failed you, sir.
>>2119209>I don't think tumblr liberals and leftists quite comprehend just how much the average american hates gays, illegal immigrants, and transhumanists, and that this was the primary motivation for a large majority of voters alongside anger over the fauchi ouchie. kamala is for they/them was the #1 performing political ad in history and border shit was a close secondI mean most Americans are chill with gays and minorities, plenty of data corroborates that. Trump’s victory wasn’t “Grr, those darn burgers hate the gays so much!” Like Trump sees his popularity sag whenever he goes full culture war.
However I’ll say most Americans, I imagine, get pretty miffed at this constant insinuation that the struggles of minorities should be at the forefront of their mind 24/7 and trump any concerns they have over shit like wages or their diminished future. And that there’s a bunch of chucklefucks willing to say “this whole country and everyone in it should die” because they’re worried about the cost of food and not Brokeback Mountain only builds resentment.
>>2119209>I don't think tumblr liberalsTumblr hasn't been relevant since 2018.
>quite comprehend just how much the average american hates gaysPolling data suggests that a supermajority of Americans support same-sex marriage. Support is lower among Republicans, but even among them, it's close enough to a 50/50 split that saying "the average American hates gays" is just straight up wrong.
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https://x.com/AndrewDesiderio/status/1881489891072299289>>2119350Our only hope is if barron is a crypto-stalinist who wants to revitalize the leftist movement
LMAO
>>2119356IT ALL RETURNS TO NOTHING
IT ALL COMES TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOWN TUMBLING DOOOOOOOOOWN
>>2119356well at least there's justification for going full hedonist nihilist
gonna blow savings on travel
>>2119389You're moving the goalposts again after having been btfo'd with the facts you asked for.
>A rise in hate crime against lgbt people with us citizens backing up the anti lgbt corpocratic government and president means nothing bro! History totally ended after 2015! People just love lgbt now and because gay marriage exists, the end point of being gay!Lol
>>2119395how do people keep getting tricked by the ADL? Probably because they're often referenced together with the SPLC.
The ADL is not a civil rights organization
>>2119392>You're moving the goalpostsI don't see how.
>History totally ended after 2015!Quite the opposite! LGB acceptance has gone up quite a bit since then, not down.
>>2119409>I don't see howI just explained you how
>Quite the opposite! LGBOh you're just baiting like the lib retard you are, got it
>>2119402December 31, 1940>Dear Mr. Stalin,
>I am using the occasion of sending New Year’s greetings and my wishes for success and prosperity to you and the people of Soviet Russia to discuss a series of questions that were raised in my conversations with Mr. Molotov and Mr. Dekanozov.
>The struggle with England has entered a decisive phase, and I intend not later than the summer of the coming year to put an end to this rather drawn-out question by seizing and occupying the heart of the British Empire—the British Isles. I am aware of the difficulty of this operation but believe that it can be carried out, for I see no other way of ending this war.
>As I wrote to you earlier, the approximately seventy divisions that I must keep in the Government General are undergoing reorganization and training in an area inaccessible to English aviation and intelligence. I understood from my discussions with Messrs. Molotov and Dekanozov that this has aroused in you understandable anxiety. Beginning in approximately March, these troops will be moved to the Channel and the western coast of Norway, and in their place, new units will be assembled for accelerated training. I wanted to warn you of this in advance.
>In addition, I intend to use these troops to force the English out of Greece, and for this, it will be necessary to move them through Romania and Bulgaria. Those troops that will carry out the invasion of England from Norwegian territory will continue to utilize transit rights through Finland. Germany has no interests in Finland or Bulgaria, and as soon as we achieve our goals in this war, I will immediately withdraw my troops. . . .
<I especially want to warn you of the following. The agony of England is accompanied by feverish efforts to save it from its inevitable fate. For this purpose, they are fabricating all possible foolish rumors, the most important of which can be crudely divided into two categories. These are rumors of planned invasions by the USSR into Germany and by Germany against the USSR. I do not wish to dwell on the absurdity of such nonsense. However, on the basis of information in my possession, I predict that as our invasion of the [British] Isles draws closer, the intensity of such rumors will increase and fabricated documents will perhaps be added to them.
>I will be completely open to you. Some of these rumors are being circulated by appropriate German offices. The success of our invasion of the Isles depends very much on the achievement of tactical surprise. Therefore, it is useful to keep Churchill and his circles in ignorance of our precise plans.
<A worsening of the relations between our countries to include armed conflict is the only way for the English to save themselves, and I assure you that they will continue efforts in this direction with their characteristic slyness and craftiness. . . .
<For a final solution of what to do with this bankrupt English legacy, and also for the consolidation of the union of socialist countries and the establishment of new world order, I would like very much to meet personally with you. I have spoken about this with Messrs. Molotov and Dekanozov.
>Unfortunately, as you will well understand, an exceptional workload prevents me from arranging our meeting until the smashing of England. Therefore, I propose to plan for this meeting at the end of June–beginning of July 1941 and would be happy if this meets with your agreement and understanding.
>Sincerely yours, >Adolf HitlerHitler as NazBol gang confirmed. The perfidious Anglo worked their dark magic to make two socialist countries war with each other.
(sarcasm in case that wasn't obvious)
>>2119344It really does.
The Groomerwaffen SS in Australia intentionally target neurodivergent ('vulnerable') young men and teens. One of their leaders got caught applying for a job in disability services after they said they only wanted to work with young boys. vidrel - antifascists have id'd that the majority of them are autistic weirdos. It's not even just 'oh neurodivergents aren't really immune to propaganda', they're *intentionally targeted* by fascists as alienated young boys to groom. With laughably mixed results.
>>2119480I don't know which is the chicken and which is the egg, but neo-Nazism thrives on recruiting alienated angry people, and people with autism are often alienated and considered easier targets for indoctrination. Like glownon said, they're clearly targeting outcasts. Normalfags don't care for nazis, but if you take someone who is alienated and doesn't know why, it's easier to tell them 'well da joos and commies, that's why'.
As for the boys part, probably because men are the face of fascist masculinity and 'power'. But maybe also picrel lmao
>>2119489>did well with young voters during the electionI don't have a source but apparently it's not even true lmao
Someone has done a number on Trump. I'm just curious if it's Chinese people or leftists or something, unless some naziporki is trying to buy and flip it like Elon did to Xitter.
>>2119480I think it's just because they're more easily taken advantage of. And can also be socially isolated in cruel teenage environments, so a Nazi identifies the nerdy white kid with hygiene problems outside of his school who is by himself, doesn't have an obvious friend group, and drives up and hands him neo-Nazi literature.
It also relates to the "theory of mind," like how well you or I can interpret the beliefs, desires, or intentions of other people. It's said people on the spectrum are often deficient in this regard, which is why they have a hard time with social cues, and might be too easily trusting. Although I've read people who disagree with this. I do think there are people who lack "glowie detectors" because they don't pick up on when something is "off." On the left, I think you'll see a lot of these spergy / mouthbreather (I hate to say it) types become patsocs. Like someone whispering in their ear "psst, you know the WORKERS don't like all that gay stuff…" and pushing them to go stir up tension for a desired political end. But the actual guy is also sort of a victim as well. I think Lee Harvey Oswald was also probably on the spectrum and was being manipulated in ways he really didn't quite understand.
>>2119493>Patriot FailThis happened a few years ago now, but Thomas (the leader) was also in a car with several other guys and they crashed out after one of them fell asleep at the wheel, and one of them died. They were somewhere out west, like Utah or somewhere, on a long-distance trip.
>>2119511This.
What is Trump gonna do that's so bad compared to what he did in his term?
Trump responds to reporters inquiring about him campaign promise to end the War in Ukraine within 24 hours of his first day.
“Well it’s only been one half a day, I have another half day left. We’ll see.”
https://x.com/atrupar/status/1881506575732429081?s=46&t=mXwz2oF37MZNIs96lNjC8Q>>2119520Yeah but are those politicians in positions of power? Most of South America is fairly left wing right now. Trump is also famously easy to manipulate. No reason to doom imo.
>>2119522Yeah I feel like first term people kind of assumed Trump's godawful rhetoric made America worse. But after 4 years of Biden it turns out that Trump's retarded antics are pretty much no different from the Dems, just a little more transparent about his views. On some level Trump being so predictable is comforting for people who feel anxious about the future.
>>2119518>Trump already failed a coup in Boliviathe Bolivia left seems to be couping itself with infighting so he may not have to do anything.
>Milei is probably gonna get coupeddoubt. i wouldn't even be surprised if trump does some kind of special bailout or economic arrangement for him.
I think trump is probably going to retreat somewhat in europe and asia to solidify the western hemisphere, which means maximum pressure to kill the left in LatAm. Cuba is already in really bad shape. Venezuela too. He's going to turn the screws on all of them to try to turn the whole area in Milei-istan. I'm not confident any of them can withstand much more and it may work.
>>2119493>stopped allowing teenagers due to a 'homosexual femboy' fiascohaha holy shit are they talking about b00t? or is this just a common enough phenomenon?
There was a (breadtube?) interview with some former neo-fash who left the movement, and one of them in Atomwaffen was FtM the whole time, feeling alienated by circumstances (shitty parents? I forget) and a desperate need to prove their masculinity. They said that one of their co-members confided that they were conflicted because their girlfriend was latino, and this one just said 'well since you shared your big secret, I'm trans' and after initial disbelief the co-member said '…how the hell did they let you in?' and the first was like 'idk man'
There was also some mexican namefag on /leftypol/ some years back who was also trans and in a fascist group. If you want evidence that they're desperate, look at this fucking peak lolcow: "Brown Greek White Nazi" (Stefan Eracleous)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3yEXIJlfC4(If you want to skip the little lecture about purity-spiraling, start at 5:50)
>>2119542okay time to join a fashy org I guess
maybe I can do some good converting the cute autistic girls to the left
>>2119583Do you think we can commission porn of USSR cosplay dom degrading nazi femboys?
I mean, if we can get a few less wimps addicted to racism fetish, all the better.
>>2119601It won't happen. The fact he's telegraphing it means he's just trying to bring Mexico/Canada to the bargaining table to give him something to brag about.
If it does happen though it'd be funny as fuck and the final nail in the coffin for Trudeau.
>>2119504>It also relates to the "theory of mind," like how well you or I can interpret the beliefs, desires, or intentions of other people. It's said people on the spectrum are often deficient in this regard, which is why they have a hard time with social cues, and might be too easily trusting. Although I've read people who disagree with this. I do think there are people who lack "glowie detectors" because they don't pick up on when something is "off." On the left, I think you'll see a lot of these spergy / mouthbreather (I hate to say it) types become patsocs. Like someone whispering in their ear "psst, you know the WORKERS don't like all that gay stuff…" and pushing them to go stir up tension for a desired political end. But the actual guy is also sort of a victim as well.Going off this to talk about some personal experiences as an autist. Y'know, even if you do find a good group of friends (and I was high functioning enough to at least find my own little gaggle of outcasts in highschool) there's still some underlying tension that I think goes back to that "theory of mind" stuff you mentioned.
Going back to that GamerGate shit (which like it or not I think turned a few autists to the right) a big part of the discourse on the feminist side during that is "you need to make space for diverse voices that you all have been gatekeeping from your community" and, y'know, from my perspective that was absolute batshit. You ask what they mean by "gatekeeping" and they'll go on about how various nerd interests were women/minority-haters who deliberately tried to keep others out, and that's why they're so male dominated. When I can think back to my highschool experience, and we had a gaggle of nerds all playing Magic the Gathering in the library. The one and only time women expressed interest in the game was so they could make fun of us for being losers a few minutes later. And now you hear "Oh you big bad bullies were deliberately keeping these women out!" And you think, no, they didn't have any interest in it. We offered them a seat and to teach them how to play and they just laughed in our faces.
Of course that's an anecdote, not a universal experience. But I think that was a good trial run for the Right telling a lot of these guys "Hey, these people that hate you and make fun of you? They're trying to push you out of your space and play the victim while they're doing it!"
Like I don't think a lot of autists can really comprehend, like, casual cruelty. The assholes they encounter they presume just actively hate them on a personal level. And that can really feed into the Nazis telling them "Pssst, it's DA JOOS that make them act that way!" I think that's what factors into a lot of right wing propaganda, it's not that the people they rail against are personally smug or self-righteous or jerks, it's that they
personally hate you as a person. If you settle down, have a nice family and a good paying job, "they" will be angry: because they want you to fail, they want you to lose everything, they hate you deep down. And so if you start supporting a genocidal regime and it makes them mad? Well then why should you care! These people want to ruin your life, if it makes them angry than whatever you're doing must be good!
>,Turn on the radio
>Nah, fuck it, turn it off
>Fear is your only god on the radio
>Nah, fuck it, turn it off
>Turn it off, turn on the radio
>Nah, fuck it, turn it off
>Fear is your only god on the radio
>Na, fuck it
>Your savior, my guillotine, crosses and kerosene
<Shut down the devil sound
<Check the heads bow in Vietnow
<Shut down the devil sound
>>2119258Poltards and zionists are two sides of the same coin.
>Both obsessed with ethnostates >Both obsessed with rape and pedophilia >Both obsessed with self-victimizing >Both hate muslims and love shooting kids The average chud would fucking love israel if they were christcucks instead of being jewish
>>2119626EVERYBODY'S SUPER SONIC RACING
TRY TO KEEP YOUR FEET RIGHT ON THE GROUND
WHEN YOU'RE SUPER SONIC RACING
THERE'S NO TIME TO LOOK AROUND
>>2119277>I mean most Americans are chill with gays and minorities, plenty of data corroborates that. It depends what you mean by "chill". In many cases guys are tolerated not accepted. How many people have you heard say "I don't want to see that shit but it's their lives so I don't care". That's not someone who accepted guys but toleration. Other minorities are "chill" when they are not uppity and not protesting. MLK was hated for his protests and messing up brunch. You underestimate how vulnerable race relations are and how they flip based on material conditions and the times. Liberalism failed Reconstruction and failed the Civil Rights Movement. It never solved these issues and the ruling class will always use it because it's still a dangerous nest to use
>However I’ll say most Americans, I imagine, get pretty miffed at this constant insinuation that the struggles of minorities should be at the forefront of their mind 24/7That's classic GOP where color blindness is code to ignore any complaints that minorities may have with the system or even overhaul the system. This is exactly why race relations has been on decline and in a worst position than in the 90s. Increase de facto segregation in institutions such as education and we have to pretend that there is not a problem. It's going to bite the US in the ass in the coming years.
>>2119626>Post your face rn>>2119617>Like I don't think a lot of autists can really comprehend, like, casual cruelty. The assholes they encounter they presume just actively hate them on a personal level. And that can really feed into the Nazis telling them "Pssst, it's DA JOOS that make them act that way!"Right, yeah. There was something from Sam Hyde that went viral among them, like "they hate you and want to rape your kids and they think it's funny." That reactionary resentment feeds on those emotions of being "hated." But it's like they want it, though, otherwise it wouldn't work. Isn't that also like ressentiment from Nietzsche?
It's a weird thing. I don't like to get that personal, but being gay used to be a trip because there are people who will really hate you and want you to die and suffer in hell and shit like that. You're blamed for destroying whole civilizations! One becomes the embodiment of Western civilization going down the tubes. Or at least used to be. Now it's okay, or maybe it's because the West has already fallen. We're also a threat to other nations and their cultural values and serve as the vanguard of Western cultural imperialism. Whatever! But you realize pretty fast that this has nothing to do with you. That stuff comes from some kind of fear that other people have, whether of themselves, or governments who are afraid of their own people in some kind of way.
You learn pretty early on not to care about what other people think. That's the inverse of the slave morality, so "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger." There are people who have probably wanted you to die or kill yourself, or they told you to an hero on the internet, but you're still alive, so obviously it wasn't that effective. And if you're still going like the Energizer bunny that you are, then it's going to take more than that to put you down. That's master morality, or something.
>>2119669I finally found a way to defeat the fucking word filter.
If you say uyghur it turns to ugyhyer
but if you say jewish nigger it stays as jewish nigger
>>2119660>It depends what you mean by "chill". In many cases guys are tolerated not accepted. I agree with that a descriptive statement, but as a side note on a different track, I think demanding "tolerance" is the wrong approach anyways. I think that's liberal bullshit, and that's not freedom, and it's also healthy. That is kind of feudal. "Thank you master for tolerating my pathetic existence, for which I am sorry." Nobody really respects that, and eventually you're going to find somebody who says no. The radical position is that your situation is not contingent on others thinking you're legitimate. People who think otherwise moralize constantly.
I think there might be a lesson for socialists and communists there. A lot of weird performative stuff that socialists do might come as a result of wanting to appear "legitimate" in the eyes of the Big Other. The patsocs obviously come to mind but it takes different forms. But you are a despised minority and most people hate you and do not believe what you believe in, but you're never going to get anywhere until you really (I mean REALLY) stop caring what they think.
>>2119693I think what worked for gays more than anything was just coming out of the closet and living one's life, and getting over fear of rejection by friends and family. Even if that does happen, it's still worth it, because you cannot go on living like that.
But politically and socially speaking, the closet is a much more powerful prison than a physical prison because it's a prison of the mind. This is why conservatives were so intent on enforcing it. And even if gays are a relatively small group, there are enough that most people end up knowing one, and that changes their perspective because they're no longer thinking of an abstraction but their friend, co-worker, or family member. There was a group called "It Gets Better" which formed in 2010. The whole idea was to encourage gays to come out of the closet. I think this was highly effective.
>>2119386Requesting reading material on this.
>>2119430Based retard does it again!
>metal gear solid poster in the back>le demçel facebwahahaHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHAHAH
>>2119731god doesn't exist
>>2119736you know you're posting in the reply thread where this guy snitched on his own father to the feds for walking around in the capitol right? it really does not get any more "authoritarian" than this, retard
>>2119738demçel mind virus, he sold off his father just to get 2 minutes of fame on CNN and reddit, probably didn't even make a single penny out of it
>>2119745Some dads deserve it tbh
This is weird though. I think this guy has some past altercations with his dad and used this for revenge.
>>2119749yeah that's my point retard, they were let in and then prosecuted for going in
i'm sure there's some lawyer incantation spell that somehow makes that not entrapment but that's what it is, i don't understand how anyone could defend this and still say they're against the police as it is
>>2119738>snitches on his fatheralright, fine. Maybe he was abused. I dunno his life story, after all
>snitches on his father and gloats about it to CNN for good boy shitlib pointsyeah, I hope he gets what he fucking deserves
>>2119667>Right, yeah. There was something from Sam Hyde that went viral among them, like "they hate you and want to rape your kids and they think it's funny." That reactionary resentment feeds on those emotions of being "hated." But it's like they want it, though, otherwise it wouldn't work. Isn't that also like ressentiment from Nietzsche?See I'm gonna try and make my own pseud-take on this and say what we see with modern reactionaries is perhaps a little different from Nietzschean Ressentiment. Like, Ressentiment is just taking a sentiment and twisting it on its head. I don't think that's always bad (as Nietzsche didn't think slave morality was "bad") but I think that element of twisting another view is key to it ("Weak" to "Meek", "Wealthy" to "Greedy", etc).
I don't think current western morals fall cleanly into slave or master morality. So I think this gives rise to a kind of perverse "NuMorality" that is especially potent among reactionaries, wherein you don't just feel contempt for the weak, but actually fear and try to exterminate them. I think Nietzsche himself would view it as pretty pathetic, because the premise of slave morality is that whatever power it has is mostly
social. It's convincing you to be ashamed of strength or health or wealth by people who don't have any. It's a recontextualization of morality away from the "esteemed elite" and more towards the "pathetic herd". But if you merely say "Yes I'm better than you, no I don't care" there's no real need to create this narrative of struggle against "the weak" because you're already superior to them. It's sort of like imagining an artist like Michelangelo being hung-up on petty comments by DeviantArt artists. You painted the Sistine Chapel, you've got nothing you need to prove to these fucking swine.
So the hatred and fear of "the other" and longing to be hated in turn, I think it's new. I think it can be seen as descending from Christian/Slave Morality conceptions of there being some sort of "objective evil" in the universe. It's tinged by ressentiment, undeniably, but I think it's kind of "caught between worlds" as it were. At one point you've got the libs saying the white nerd playing Magic is, stupidly, a "Bro" who'll exclude women from his hobbies. On the other hand, they're pathetically low on the social totem pole. They're unable to wholly actualize as belonging to a "master" class or "slave" class, and so they violently lash out at anyone and everyone. They can't embrace "the foreign" or "the other" because they see that other as trying to push them out of their space. They can't embrace some Roman patrician style bullshit because they're losers. Might as well get angry at the world and try to burn it all down.
>>2119745If my son betrayed me by getting me put in prison, went on national TV to brag about it and raised money off of it too he would be about to fuck around and find out
Papas coming home and he's going to get revenge
>>2119756I just don't see why Democrats couldn't have ran on how dumb his platform is.
>>2119762They're certainly not going to bring down prices that's for sure.
>>2119769I hope you never become a parent.
Well you are on /leftypol/ so I don't think that's a concern.
>>2119778>by the fbi? there were undercover FBI agents inside the capitol AND in the crowd
were they also embedded in the police outside? who knows and i don't think the distinction between "city cops" and "undercover fbi posing as cop" matters here, they still let the people in
>>2119789uh, yes? as if americans gave a fuck if he any people he killed here were actual cartel members or not.
as long as they think he's bringing war to the cartels they'll love it.
>>2119793>four years of #resistance libs, literally retarded fascists, politicians doing crypto rug pulls, and a new age of manifest destiny.So same as ever
>the only silver lining is nato maybe getting fucked over. Lol, lmao. Ziggers can't just help themselves being in cope that Trump is totally gonna weaken Nato at any point
>>2119773Probably very good. I'm sorry comrade, stay safe.
>>2119789Trump massively ramped up drone strikes compared to Obama. I see no reason he wouldn't get back to it.
>>2119746liberalism. simple as that
it corrupts
>>2119730I can always count on you to say the most braindead retarded things possible
>>2119731Wannabe prole too. He's one of those "work from home" pansies. Pathetic.
>>2119740>demçelI'm surprised wordfilters don't account for corner cases like this
>>2119801what if he under threw it? would that be better?
>>2119804it's called regular expressions and the concept escapes the morons that maintain this place
>>2119819no you don't understand, they tried to OVERTHROW DEMOCRACY by rioting at the capitol
it's just like my sid meier's civilization and hearts of iron games, once you capture the key objective it's all over and you become the new ruler
>>2119821BUT DA LIBRUL DEMOKRACY!!!!
HE TRIED TO OVERTHROW LIBERAL DEMOCRACY SO HE COULD REPLACE IT WITH MORE CONSERVATIVE LIBERAL DEMOCRACY!
Cops are refusing to release January 6ers even though Trump pardoned them lol
This is going to be interesting
https://x.com/FordFischer/status/1881567216887562574>>2119833look up "resist" and check news lmao, libs are reverting back to 2017 with the whole vague incomprehensible definition of "resistance" (usually posting on bluesky or whatever)
something something first as tragedy second as farce
>>2119838At this point I have no sympathy for MAGAts, purge them all.
>nooo they're heckin salt of the earth working class, they just need to read theory, nooooThe vast majority of people we'd actually be able to reach don't vote. Just by being a "huge fan" of a far-right politician they're already too far gone.
>>2119848Honestly the ADL is correct here and the only reason its silly coming from them is not because Musk actually did a deliberate Nazi salute and they're "covering" for him, but only because if a Muslim did some innocuous morning stretch the ADL would come out banging the 'Nazi' drum. On its own, the ADL saying this is nothing.
Honestly, I refuse to believe you guys genuinely think what you're acting like you believe, why would Musk do a deliberate Nazi salute, in what world would he gain anything from that.
This feels like people trying to do faux outrage in order to placate the liberal trend of not seeing right-wing politics as harmful unless it waves the Nazi flag, and pretending be shocked about this in order to convince others that rightism is harmful. Even though most people don't believe it and even those posting about how this proves anything will forget about it next week.
>>2119869It feels like libs obsessing over spectacle again rather than content.
The executive order stuff and the crypto rug pulls are way more interesting. Add in the symbolism of oligarchs worth almost $1.5 trillion attending an exclusive coronation whilst the plebs outside freeze. With Melania and Ivanka dressing up as European royalty.
Anyway this is the mask-off era. Tariffs will be dropping Feb 1st. Shit's gonna get wild.
>>2119895i like how they interpreted his lust for h1b visas as him wanting to enact white genocide, not create a new race of chattel slaves. salute was a last resort to reel them back in.
>>2119891i know, but the girl i was flirting with is in hysterics over this and doesnt wanna see anyone anymore. the collapse would be a lot more enjoyable if i was getting laid.
>>2119827>Neither white or black Americans will be politically relevant going forward. >American identity under Trump will finish transforming into Brazilian identitySo is this the year America becomes indistinguishable from the rest of the Americas outside of Cuba and maybe Venezuela? (Canada apparently won't exist for long lul)
Like there's no more universalism, no more liberal internationalism, it's kleptocracy and oligarchy and quid pro quo all the way down.
Speaking of which, just how radicalized will the American "left" become after 4 years of this? Will it be George Floyd riots and Luigis end to end?
>>2119893Yes, cryptofascism. Did you see the paper-thin coverup attempt? It thinks it's slick.
See:
>>2119844 >>2119962cant even play the song without registering to your scam service
fuck you
>>2119989you are welcome
the lyrics on that thing are atrocious, tho
>>2119990i respect your opinion based leftcom. honestly i dont understand half of what shes saying but its fun
>>2119986mp4 attached if anyone wants it
>>2119990>the lyrics on that thing are atrocious, thoseem fine to me
We're told that after the war
The Nazis vanished without a trace
But batallions of facists
Still dream of a master race
The history books they tell
Of their defeat at '45
But they all came out of the woodwork
On the day the Nazi died
They say the prisoner at Spandau
Was a symbol of defeat
Whilst Hess remained imprisoned
And the facists; they were beat
So the promise of an Aryan world
Would never materialize
So why did they all come out of the woodwork
On the day the Nazi died
The world is riddled with maggots
The maggots are getting fat
They're making a tasty meal of all
The bosses and bureaucrats
They're taking over the boardrooms
And they're fat and full of pride
And they all came out of the woodwork
On the day the Nazi died
So if you meet with these historians
I'll tell you what to say
Tell them that the Nazis
Never really went away
They're out there burning houses down
And peddling racist lies
And we'll never rest again…
Until every Nazi dies…
>>2120011Deindustrialization plus capitalist crisis in 2008 created Trump.
>project 2025 aint happeningInsane levels of normalcy bias, insane levels of cope, or you are so focused on being cooler and more radical than the libs that you don't want it to be true for that reason. Project 2025 is already starting to play out lol, you have to ignore what he's doing to say it's not going to be adopted at all. How much of it will be adopted is a different question but it is being adopted in real time.
>get organizedYes
>& enjoy the death of empire this is a time for celebrationIf US imperialism actually does go into freefall and there is a maximalist Project 2025 then that is a time for celebration only if proletarian movements are able to capitalize on it. I am not saying anyone should be concerned with defending bourgeoise democracy but not every time a bourgeoise democracy ends does that mean it's replaced by socialism. The KDP had exactly this retarded idea, first Hitler's turn then ours, and look what happened.
>>2119869If it was a shit bitrate 144p frame of a Palestinian man instead of Musk, the ADl would "CSI enhancing" until they find the Mein Kampf in his back pocket. Making bombastic claims of the inherent Nazism found in all non-Jews and how to atone for it.
While actually posting some "happy merchant" tier /pol/ infographic about Arabs and excusing Sieg-Heil-ing Banderites. I don't think you gotta "hand it to them" when they say something halfway true inbetween lobbying for Zionism.
>>2120020i agree, including
>you are so focused on being cooler and more radical than the libs that you don't want it to be true for that reasonexcept that i dont want it to be true because it will be horrible, and im well positioned to suffer if/when (soon, within the decade at least!) it will be horrible. just talking shit and bantering
im drunk. im not cooler than most liberals, but i do think im angrier
>>2119986Well Does it matter that Musk actually did a Nazi salute?
Like sure, "normalizing" and whatnot. But really, the US has been literally funding the restructure of Ukraine as a literal neo-nazi state. THey have been parading the Banderites across all of NATO. They have been giving these, and by extension, all othe other neo-nazi groups with whom they relate and network, loads of training, materiel and political legitimacy.
The US is doing the same things as last cold war, minus the anti-decolonial warfare stuff. You can bet your ass all the "hybrid warfare" from Russia and no doubt Islamic terror to come, stem from US/NATO glowops to keep Europe well polarized and atlanticist. Most of the European rightwing, for all the shit Russia gets for throwing a few bucks here and there, actually
swear by Israel too.
At which point is the "crypto" from cryptofascism coming off for you?
Man he's just a hater. Look how nice the WHO is to them.
https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/autism-spectrum-disordersHuman rights>All people, including people with autism, have the right to the enjoyment of the highest attainable standard of physical and mental health.
>And yet, autistic people are often subject to stigma and discrimination, including unjust deprivation of health care, education and opportunities to engage and participate in their communities.
>People with autism have the same health problems as the general population. However, they may, in addition, have specific health-care needs related to autism or other co-occurring conditions. They may be more vulnerable to developing chronic noncommunicable conditions because of behavioural risk factors such as physical inactivity and poor dietary preferences, and are at greater risk of violence, injury and abuse.
>People with autism require accessible health services for general health-care needs like the rest of the population, including promotive and preventive services and treatment of acute and chronic illness. Nevertheless, autistic people have higher rates of unmet health-care needs compared with the general population. They are also more vulnerable during humanitarian emergencies. A common barrier is created by health-care providers’ inadequate knowledge and understanding of autism.WHO resolution on autism spectrum disorders
>In May 2014, the Sixty-seventh World Health Assembly adopted a resolution entitled Comprehensive and coordinated efforts for the management of autism spectrum disorders, which was supported by more than 60 countries.
>The resolution urges WHO to collaborate with Member States and partner agencies to strengthen national capacities to address ASD and other developmental disabilities.>>2119909>The year is 2028>It is the future.>Radicalized by Trump's Tariffs, a new breed of nationalism struck the EU. Not regional, but continental.>The EVROPA Volksstaat was formed, combining the militaries of all currently constituted members of the EU into one fighting force, under "JVPITER" the new Sun King/Fuhrer>It immediately sought to cleanse its population of "racial sickness" and began a campaign of deportations and subjugation aimed at Slavic and other "non-European" ethnic groups<Excluding the Poles, who were named as "honorary Europeans">They called it "trimming the garden">The world railed against Europe's brutal racial "hygiene" policies, but an increased isolationist tendency among the world's powers led to it being unchallenged.>Finally, under the Arc de Triomphe, JVPITER declared that now that the garden was trimmed, it was time for it to grow.>In a stunning surprise attack, EVROPAN forces blitzed into the Ukraine, claiming they were there to "save" the Europeans which were languishing under the "Russo-Mongoloid Yolk">The Blitz ended in a week, as EVROPAN war planners were currently in heated debate over where the seemingly endless mindfields ended and how they would go around>America was content to let the Russkies and EVROPANS fight it out, until a Ukrainian Neo-Nazi plowed a cyber truck into the lobby of the "Trumplin", a coyly named casino operating in St Petersburg>The cybtertruck exploded, killing 100 people. No one is sure whether any explosives were in the truck, but its autopilot was apparently on during the crash.>The media called it "A New Pearl Harbor">Great America, a new political union encompassing the old United States, Canada, Greenland, and Argentina immediately declared war.>Oberstormgruppenfuhrer Littoria bravely attempted to lead a battalion of Breton Swabian Ultranationalists against the encroaching Amero-Russo-Mongoloid types>He failed.>He sees American troops, so race-devolved, posting tiktok videos of themselves doing "The Floss" with a EU flag.>He sees Russians engaging in the time-old barbarism their kind was known for: forcing European women to watch Steven Seagal movies and getting into fistfights about obscure 40k lore>The Americans had turned their guns on the wounded EVROPAN fighters. He can hear his comrades lives being expunged economically, one shell at a time. >It will be his turn, soon.>A racially degenerated young man in an Edgar haircut approaches, he points the barrel of his AR in Littoria's face.>This was it.<"At ease, Private." A powerful, Teutonic voice calls.>Littoria sees him approach. Square jawline. Powerful forehead. He was wearing American colors, but it seemed he was not so race-degenerated that his European lineage had faded.>The mongrel grumbles something that sounds like: "What the sigma?" before trundling off, likely to post to his buddies on Discord>Littoria reaches his hand out, groping for the American's boot. Surely, he would see they were one in the same? Racial brothers? It was the machinations of the Jews that forced this war on them!>The American unholsters his service pistol. It was well-maintained and seemed to reflect the glows of the fire around them.<"This one's mine.">Littoria gasps, and then sees the man's name: Colonel Wellesely>He understood now. In fact, he understood everything.>The man's features, his powerful forehead, Mesocephalic features. He was an Anglo-type>It all made sense. Everything made sense.>The race-descent of the Americas had spared but one group.>The world wars. The Napoleonic wars.>It had always been one group behind them. Not two. One.>The Anglos.>Nay, they were not one, but two. TWO races!>The Anglo-Saxons were not Germanic. He knew that now. There had always been rumors, but he could see it clear as day.>They were of the lost tribe of Judea.>They were the Anglo-Semito type.>Not broken and degenerated from the mixing of haplogroups, but empowered. The Anglos had inherited Jewish deceitfulness and Teutonic stature.>Their minds simply operated on a level that a mere European couldn't comprehend, but he knew, oh he knew, it was always directed towards chaos.>The colonel met his gaze, he was smiling. There was a knowing look in that smile. He knew. More than that, he knew Littoria knew.>There was a loud crack of thunder, and then the infinite dark came for him. >>2120082When will they learn?
>>2120085Has this man ever hailed victory?
>>2120094Tbh the fact that America is killing its workers and strangling them with chemicals is a huge rebuttal against the JDPON argument. Central to three worlds theory is that workers of imperial nations directly benefits from bioexploitations and superprofits and thus cannot be lumped together into a concrete working class materiality, i.e the fact that hegemonic workers enjoy better food and products at much cheaper prices, that they are generally healthier and happier because all the bad stuffs like factories pumping chemicals and Nestle making babies fat using goyslop doesn't happen in their countries but rather in the second and third world, that western peoples enjoy higher status in the sexual market by default of citizenship, etc
Ofc all of these are trve to some extent, but if American workers are in fact also suffering massive and debilitating obesity from eating cheap factory processed food, if they're getting strangled by healthcare and rent, if they suffered from atomization and exposure to dangerous chemicals (look up the enviromental impact from Nvidia's factories) then this means that the supposed uniquely privileged position of the Western working class is either very overhyped, or that there are countervailing tendencies that ensured that identification with class rather than nationalities remains potent
>Elon just made a wittle fucky wucky, he's autistic and socially awkward, stop judging him so unfairly!
Seeing this a lot online to defend the Roman salute, so from that I have two questions;
1. I thought that whole wing of politics abhors the idea of exceptionalism based on neurodivigence, so how is this angle not literally claiming that Musk is a special little snowflake who's too unique to be judged from the lense of convention?
2. If he is so socially awkward and unapologetically so, why does he relentlessly try to persuade people that's not the case? He actually gets unironically furious when someone says or suggests he's not cool when he is trying so hard to gauge what people like, whether that's leather jackets, memecoins, rockets and cars, memes, kitchen sinks, etc. Doesn't it seem implausible that what we witnessed was Musk briefly dropping his meticulously choreographed cool guy act to childishly make a hand gesture out of sheer excitement that just coincidentally looked like a Nazi salute?
>>2120102He's not an assburger, he is an extrovert, craves for attention and has no problem at all with saying dumb superficial shit or straight up lying. He's some kind of narcissist, sociopath or something in that direction.
t. scores high on assburger test
>>2120102>the Roman saluteIt's not a fucking Roman salute, don't pretend it is.
> 1. I thought that whole wing of politics abhors the idea of exceptionalism based on neurodivigenceAhh, you believe in wings. Please watch this video to clear up this mistake.
Also,
>>2120111, you are making the mistake of assuming good faith, that the point is to present a logical position, rather than 'win' the argument. They don't need to take a consistent position, their goal might just be to contradict yours, to play on your assumed 'tolerant left' dislike of ableism, therefore creating an apparent contradiction. Ha, checkmate, liberal!
Nazis are explicitly antiiberal and the marketplace of ideas is merely a platform to exploit. Don't forget this,
>>2120114, take this video for example -
>>2119552 - , I think it was the stormfront moderator's interview, where they basically say 'nazis don't believe in lots of their arguments, like the great replacement theory. it's garbage and they know it, but it can convince people worried about immigrants'. That's probably as close as you'll get to the horse's mouth.
It's about power, not being good.
>>2120120>but I should never underestimate people's stupidityCorrect, they guy's a fucking retard. Watch that video for more, it gets better and better. For starters, if you're wondering about the username, it's some weird project about BBQing as nationalist propaganda or some shit, and then they post this.
like seriously 'merging of cultures' yeah I don't think the white nationalists give a fuck about merging in greek culture.
>>2120178>For more than 60 years Cuba has buckled under US economic sanctionscorrect
> and its own government’s missteps.hahaha oh wow what a funny story. they should have just stfu and stayed under fulgencio batista forever, amirite fellow burgers
>>2120109>>2120124I do have diagnosed autism and I think this is very true. Nothing about the way he acts is autistic besides using it as an excuse act like a fucking retard. What he does is portray himself in the commodified "lovable autist" (big bang theory, the good doctor…) trope. uwu i have special interest in rocket fuel and early 20th century german political theory. dipshit.
but not gonna lie sometimes i the poster sieg hail unintentionally as stimming, please no gulag
> Trump signs order to reverse US sanctions on Israeli settlers in the occupied West BankWestside Hilltop Hebrew boys getting off the sanctions list.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/21/trump-lifts-us-sanctions-on-israeli-settlers-in-the-occupied-west-bankI recommend watching this documentary if you haven't seen it yet.
>>2120020> How much of it will be adopted is a different questionThat’s always been the question.
So far it’s a nothing burger
>>2120257>your Democrat friends>muh mandate>the other candidate was worseHope this is bait because if this is who is calling me a radlib lol
>>2120326Kinda but not fully, even whether Trump was behind the plan at all was controversial before because people were for some stupid reason taking his disavowals during the campaign seriously. Day 1 and it's entirely clear that he's behind it, the question is just how far it will go now.
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