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I feel like we need to discuss why MMOs as a genre were never good, but how they were also fucking amazing. This is all due to when MMOs became a thing.
Most if not all MMOs people actually care about were from the early 2000s. They were all pushing the boundaries of capitalism over video games with either a subscription or whatever the hell is wrong with the korean industry, but, and I must stress this, but…they came out during the ONLY MOMENT they would've been successful.
They were social spaces, social WORLDS in fact, they were by definition larping sims. In an era where that was still a new thing. From 2003-2012, MMOs had THIS as their main wow factor. This is also their only staying power in media ABOUT video games, their sense of community and ability to break barriers…of course, all those external pieces of media also made it about how MMO players were losers, but nontheless, that was why they became a genre.
After social media became a permanent staple of human life, MMOs had practically no point anymore. Most of them were already garbage gameplay wise. This is why we all want classic wow, or classic maple, or the return of wonderking (which, by the way, looks like actual garbage, to my dismay).
We didn't "grow out" of MMOs, that is what idiots with no argument say to shut you up, the WORLD outgrew MMOs, and sadly, we have been conditioned to not be impressed or enamoured.
>what the fuck are you saying OP??
I'm saying what I mean, anon. Maybe I was groomed by this industry to endure capitalism, but DAMN IT, there was a time talking to someone as your personal chibi avatar was cool and FUN! Now it's a fucking bore, I cannot understand why anyone would play an MMO in 2025, almost all of them are bad wow clones.

I miss the MMO part, but most certainly not the RPG part. Levelling systems are annoying, they either mess up the balancing for non-linear games or render null the difficulty curve for linear games.
I could see a MMOMV (Massive Multiplayer Online MetroidVania) having potential.

I used to play Mabinogi when I was a broke ass kid hopping from f2p mmo to f2p. It grabbed at the time due to how different it felt from everything else. The setting being based on irish mythology, the combat being a weird offshoot of typical mmo combat where now individual hits cause hitstun and knock back and skills having a rps relationship where certain ones can counter and stop others (though nowadays this aspect of the game is getting sanded off), your character aging overtime, all the sandbox elements like there not being any set classes or an entire system to creating custom music, I could go on. However the game is a massive grindfest and those who're willing to open up the wallets will always be ahead of you in it. I heard it's getting remade in UE5 or something but I don't think I have the time or patience to play it (or any other mmo) whenever that happens. Regardless, it was a fun experience even if I managed to not make friends in an mmo because I was scared of people thinking I was ass at the game.



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of course most /pol/tards side with caser's legion but looking at it almost every single faction is awful one way or the other, The NCR is literally a reboot of America that is in the middle of a manifest destiny, House is a egotistical maniac and probably appeals to Musk bros and Yes man is just a libertarian wet dream
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>>13127
The Legion is not more economic right then The Enclave, The Enclave are a parody of American jingoism, Reagan area larpers who literally live on a oil rig, while the Legion throw fucking sticks at people like cavemen.
Who the fuck made this?

>>44514
Legion is stuck with a slave economy while the Enclave is atleast capitalist, which makes the Enclave more left-wing if the economic right axis is seen as synonymous with a regression of modes of productions.

>>44490
>Ohio
The bombs could only have improved things

>>44520
I dig the classic Fallout vibes of the Ohio worldspace

>>13127

Is this mandela effect or people just forgot?

but i could swear in Fallout 2 you get a little context in some Mexican cartel raiders who survived the bombs by sheltering under the mines

this continues in Fallout New California fan-dlc which until now i've thought of Mexican mines as Mexico's vaults.



 

How are we feeling about it?

I am cautiously optimistic from the all the gameplay footage released. It genuinely looks like it will be a fun multifaceted game.
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>>42853
best EU4 run i ever got was No Trail Of Tears acheivement, a lot of trial & error

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graphics wise it looks like a minecraft superflat world, its ugly as hell. shouldve sticked to the imperator rome style map like pic related

>>43712
is that shit finally a globe at least?

>>43713
what? no. why would it be a globe? that'd just look ugly and it doesnt really fit into the time period. it looks better as a map

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it's truly over



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Watching a playthrough of MGS Delta reminded me what a poor writer Hideo Kojima is.

>uhm acktually he wasn‘t involved in making the gaym

It‘s a remake that kept the same story.

Kojima‘s shortcomings as a story writer are that he uses way too much exposition. Scene after scene of giving explicit and longwinded speeches about what is happening in the world. It’s laborious to pay attention to everything and you forget the shit anyways. Which leads me to the next problem.

His endless world building. He keeps introducing new layers, groups, conflicts and conspiracies that simply overwhelm the audience. More world building is only desired if it‘s actually interesting but Kojima seems to simply assume that it makes his stories more intriguing when in actuality he is just confusing his audience and makes them frustrated if they even cared to pay attention.

Another problem is that he adds plot twist after plot twist after plot twist, seemingly for the same reason that he believes it makes his stories more intriguing. In retrospect it‘s funny how unphased every plot twist has left me. There was no built up to make me invested in whatever has been overturned.
>Oh, the shaggy dogs weren‘t actually double spies but tripple spies for the cyber homolords? Damn.. anyways

It‘s odd to me he has gotten so successful. Don‘t get me wrong I actually like the MGS series, but it‘s selling points for me have been Kojima‘s creativity and the gameplay being somewhat unique. It has character. But the writing is awful.
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>>44424
He wanted out of metal gear since 2

>>44489
Do you mean Solid 2 or Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake? Both are likely true

My biggest complaint so far is that you can’t do CQC while crouch walking

>>44517
Solid 2 at least. I remember reading about how hec wanted to make other stuff. 3 was supposed to be the last one he worked on, and iirc he experimented with other stuff after that, like the weird solar powered boktai game or zone of the enders. Imo it just ended up being him wanting to do stuff outside of metal gear, but mgs was the price tag for his ambitions.

Tbh I miss mgs because whatever happened between mgs and ds, just seems like the magic is gone. DS just seems so fucking poe faced for how ridiculous it is, though it seems like mgs was drifting that way too if 5 was any indication.

Like, I dunno, can norman reedus crack a smile or joke or something? How about a little levity now and then, for fucks sake.

Anyone playing Fox Hunt? It’s fun but it needs more than two game modes and 4 maps



 

Post in this thread every time you play a new game and rate it, I'll start, currently playing Dread Dawn, pretty jank and honestly not that good but I'm desperate for more zombie games to wait until PZ 42 comes out. 6/10.
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>>44744

i mean it should be, iirc we should be able to play it on December

>>44745
MISERY is the only game that is like coop so i do need the original

BLOOD WEST and Vampire Survivors are indie games which are usually harder to find at times; except Vampire Survivors i'm sure i can find the Balatro DLC in a couple weeks from FitGIrl orso but honeslty it's just cheap enough that i think it's worth having just for free updates and whatever it may come

BLOOD WEST i'm waiting for a DLC/update is coming and it's not that expensive for an open world cowboy game, so i feel like it's good to reward the dev for making a good cowboy game.
even tho they seem to be polish… i mean despite that NEW BLOOD is probably worth supporting anyway considering they're the underdog of boomer shooter style game publishers i mean, they're not getting as much funding as 3D Realms or NightDive just overall getting hired to remake old ass games over and over.

>>44747
I think bully online is gonna flop hard tbh

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>>44748
iit free mod tho

>>44747
>like coop so I do need the original
online-fix.me



 

i need good psp and ps1 games recommendations, i haven't played much ps1 games tho so. yeah














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Monster Hunter Freedom Unite is also great, but nowadays I prefer playing the FUComplete version on PC.

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>>44252

why is Alunya drinking piss?

>>44697
Why not? It's a refreshing drink you can enjoy pretty much for free.

Playing through RE1 director's cut (not dualshock) just to see what it was like after playing through REmake like 3 times. It's weird how little zombies there are (at least so far) and how some of the puzzles changed. Weirdly enough I find dodging zombies harder in this version. It doesn't seem like they really lunge at you like in REmake? Also no quick turn.

>PS1
Wip3out
Legend of Mana
G-Police
Syphon Filter 1/2
Nuclear Strike
Twisted Metal (2 is my favorite)



 

hahahahahaha, what the fuck is this

https://xcancel.com/mattshumer_/status/1981406315693187430#m

this is what's responsible for 90% of GDP growth in the US economy right now
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The immense majority of the gaming market is mobile slop though so this actually have a future.

This is not AI, this is Neuralink hooked up to Biden's brain.

>>44717
I mean it's easier to just slap together an agario clone with a big red £99.99 purchase button in the corner than to bother with AI stuff.

Kinda amazing how AIfags have torpedoed their chances of AI mass adoption for some clout and internet likes so they can call themselves the first movers. Who the fuck looks at those slop videos and thinks that this is a product that can be presented to any type of audience? It looks like fucking ass, the piss filter AI pictures look like ass, and the Chat GPT text reads like ass, its all fucking shit. Next time shut the fuck up and only show your cards when you've actually got a good hand.

When the AI bubble bursts Im going to laugh until I give myself an ulcer



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/smt/ general #1 - Schwarzwelt edition

What's hidden at the South Pole is the Schwarzwelt, which is a world comprised of alternate dimensions inhabited my demons. The Schwarzwelt is connected to humanity's abuse of nature. As long as humans harm the environment, the Schwarzwelt can not be removed from reality.


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Thread question: Do you prefer the DS or 3DS version of Strange Journey? Why?
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>>43914
Doesn't make money unfortunately

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>open /smtg/
>see an argument on race and culture
why is 4chan like this?

>>41385
>>41386
Persona would be good if it didn't have the most libcuck politics imaginable and didn't appeal to the lowest common denominator.
But at least the girls are hot lol.
>>43998
Untrue, a large majority of the Japanese audience that bought Persona 5 were female.
https://personacentral.com/persona-magazine-survey-results/
It absolutely would sell, Atlus is just predominantly ran by old fart Japanese businessmen.
Pokemon is the most successful IP of all time and it added a female protagonist in Gen 2. Hell, I'd even go far as to say that Pokemon's longevity as a brand is due to it being a fairly gender neutral IP.

>>44734
>a large majority
my bad, I should have said nearly half.
still, 43.5% is pretty insane for a series that makes a shit ton of "haha the girl can't cook" jokes.

>>44736
Some people can take a joke, crazy, right?



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So there's a famous scene in Warcraft 3 where Arthas, upon seeing that grain infected with the undead plague had been distributed in Stratholme, orders the city purged.

There's some controversy over whether Arthas was wrong for doing this. On one hand, if you play the game, Arthas can come across as something of a John Snow-like character in the sense that he's the only one that seems to be taking the plague and the undead Scourge as the dire, even apocalyptic threat that they actually are. In the Stratholme level itself, the citizens are actively turning into the undead as you meet them, while the Scourge are present and active in the city, lead by Mal'ganis who is swelling their numbers with infected citizens. This might lead a player to conclude that Arthas is doing what is necessary to prevent the Scourge from getting a city-sized army and preventing his subjects from becoming the mindless slaves of the Lich King. A mercy kill, if you will.

But there are many, including the writers who seem to disagree. In fact, the guy who wrote the mission apparently thinks its obvious that Arthas was in the wrong and that you're a psycho if you think otherwise.

What causes this disconnect?
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>>43740
He wasn't really a evil murderous maniac so much as he went insane with his quest for revenge.

>>42058
Arthas' biggest mistake was stepping foot on Northrend. Once he did, he was gone.
He could have turned towards the right path before that point, but he foolishly got baited by Malganis.


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It's the Trolley Problem.

You have to remember that Warcraft has largely been written by boomer liberals and, by their reckoning, it's always better to not do anything bad than to do something good in an imperfect way or by morally dubious means. That you would even consider pulling the lever and saving many people, but consciously dooming one person in the process basically makes you a psychopath. There's no need for further nuance to prove that Arthas was in the wrong, like another viable option or there being innocents in the city that were killed alongside the infected. That Arthas would consider doing wrong by killing innocents to serve the greater good of stopping the Scourge is itself completely beyond the pale and proves that he has become a psychopath.

>>44733
Why would you save anyone?



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I'm pretty new to victoria 3, and I'm looking for some advice. What are some fun countries to play as while still being a beginner? Also, what are the best mods I should get?
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For my next run I decided to play as the East India Company with the goal of developing a mlitary large enough to become independent from the British Empire. So many processes were going on at once that it actually crashed my computer completely, which blows my mind because I'm running an i9 CPU, 32GB RAM, and an RTX 4070.

Map is so ugly

>>44555
it really is and becomes clear how bad it is when you get nice mods. i used the edwardian era map and its gorgeous. some horrific border gore on this playthru though

>>44529
dude, my pc can usually handle paradox games just fine, even ck3, but for some reason when i play victoria it starts having these weird ass glitches after 1-2 hours. on vic3 ive had pc crashes and my screen starts freaking out, glitching and stuttering even minutes after i close the tab. it happens with vic2 aswell

>>44723
For some reason my computer completely crashes when playing as at least Britain and East india Company. i'm hoping it's not a full scale issue. I remember having a similar one with CK3 until I switched to Vulkan renderer so I tried doing that with Victoria 3, but it didn't end up helping like it did with CK3. I might have to look more into it.



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