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was thinking about how ive never seen an anime with legitimately criminal protags. every "crime" anime either revolves around A. vigilantes or B. criminals targeting other criminals, aka its easily justifiable and theres no real dilemmas. no drug dealers, no robbers, no organ thieves etc
great pretender almost did this in the first episode with the protag being a legitimate convict who scams civilians. then they said "actually now he works for an informal looney tunes crime syndicate that somehow has hundreds of actors on their payroll and can do literally anything lmao" which was super lame

Shimoneta is about terrorists.

Cyberpunk edgerunners

Tbh isn’t most major criminal activity usually centered around enemy gangs?

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If you ask me, all anime is crime anime, because making anime is a crime.



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what are some anime/movies/series/cartoons that you think that insist upon themselves? To me evangelion is one of them
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Art should insist upon itself. That's what art is for. If you feel like the art you're consuming is too absorbed in itself you are just too self-centered to appreciate a different perspective and just want keys jangled in your face.

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>>30337
So I guess the criticism against Boruto and Dragon Ball Super are just that, self centerdness

>>30312
Naruto Shippuden near the Fourth Great Ninga War arc. Lots of filler episode arcs that should’ve been dealt with in the original Naruto series

>>30312
None, the joke is that this is a nonsense criticism and Peter doesn't actually know what he means by it. If you use it unironically you have officially been outsmarted by Family Guy.



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"Cheap hack of a writer's guide to creating a morally ambigous antagonist:"
>Have a character be a smug self-centered asshole for 80% of the story
>Have him ally with the main baddie and commit some war crimes
>Have him turn on the main baddie after realising that the main baddie had killed their favorite dog (or is going to kill their favorite dog soon)
>Help the main characters for one or two scenes and then be killed by the main baddie
>The main characters in the epilogue are shown standing besides his grave and musing "He wasn't a bad person, after all. Such a tragedy!"

Post examples of this which had annoyed you the most. Shounen genre specifically is ripe with them, isn't it?
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>>30379
>>30382
To continue, people express more immediate vitriol for minor antagonists.
Bad isn't punished for evil, but rather for weakness or lacklustre.

That's why Orochimaru is allowed to live.

>>30383
Orochimaru is figuratively exactly what I said about vengeance, he's kept alive to stop le circle of hatred, that is the narrative reason

>>30384
"Stop the violence" is just an excuse.
People have more contempt for Obito, because of his motives for avenging a beloved female comrade

>>30386
You can't say it's an excuse and then defend vengeance, that's ridiculous, obito was also pardoned post death, that was the entire point of the last fight between naruto and sasuke, that "bad" people are forced by their circomstances (some people here would say material conditions), he wasn't even killed, he sacrificed himself
If you only mean readers talking bad about him, it's mostly because he had ONE death and lost his fucking marbles even tho he still had a village, a family, other friends etc, when pretty much every ninja in the series also had to witness somebody dying at some point in their lives.

>>30390
>If you only mean readers talking bad about him, it's mostly because he had ONE death and lost his fucking marbles even tho he still had a village, a family, other friends etc, when pretty much every ninja in the series also had to witness somebody dying at some point in their lives.

Readers hated on Sasuke for not conforming to. Naruto's idealism in the beginning.

I just notice that MCs who aren't positive goof balls that easily turn the other cheek are seen as monsters.

Hakuryuu Ren from Magi: Labyrinth of Magic
He had witnessed his brothers being killed in a house fire started by his mom, Gyokuen (who was possessed by Arba).

He wanted to avenge his brothers and the fandom hate him for his cynicism



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I lurked across many anime forums, and at this point I don’t think there’s any interesting discourse to be had, leftist or rightist, regarding anime. Of course, due to Sturgeon’s law, few anime are actual gems. But that’s not the point. The point is that:

Is there any point in re-hashing the same old arguments.

Last time I remember, the only engaging discourses among weebs were about Frieren and Drama Queen, but for different reasons.

Frieren moreso for its depiction of demons and its comparisons to Tolkien’s orcs. For those who don’t know, a YouTuber named Lextorias made an hour-long video discussing the narrative problems with demons and the manga’s/anime’s inconsistent portrayal of demons as being absolutely evil, explaining via both in-story and authorial reasons for it, coming to the conclusion that Frieren’s demons are just a badly-written species. What was the reaction to it? Chuds coming out in defense of the series and attacking Lextorias with the kind of arguments he himself predicted and criticised in his own video: https://www.lextorias.com/references/frieren-dilemma/

Suffice to say, he singlehandedly managed to create an entire discourse that lasted for days in Twitter as culture war BS.

Coming up next is Drama Queen, a manga that is yet to be adapted into an anime, and highly unlikely. It’s about humans living alongside with aliens who saved them from an asteroid impact. It would’ve been another slice of life manga if it wasn’t for the fact that it caught weebs’ attention due to the MCs being sociopaths who hate the aliens and are contracted by a shady org that makes a profit off of killing the alien residents whose head is a dude with a double life as an “anti-racist” professor, with said aliens being pompous and arrogant foreigners who are taking up human life.
Long story short, people caught on it as a Japanese commentary on modern immigration to Japan with said aliens being allegory for immigrants. Which immigrants (white expats, Chinese house buyers, US troops, POC non-Japanese immigrants, etc…) is debated, but it’s clearly about immigration from a right-wing POV so far, although we’ll see how it goes since the story is still being published.

But yh, there’s no interesting discussion to be had as these themes have already been discussed to death on mainstream social media.

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>>30141
Another major problem with anime discussion which is also rampant in western media is the constant criticism about Mary Sue

People seem to have a deep hatred for perfect characters unless they’re villians

Everyone wants the main characters to be homely naive goofballs for “relatability”

>>30365
No, the most vocal people in anime circles are the group that deepthroat OP Mcs that curbstomp with zero efforts anything that comes accross them, they just stay in their circlejerk so you pretend only their opponents exist.
Also gives one (1) anime with a perfect Mc that's actually good and not hurt by the MC OP-ness (like slime datta ken, which kills any tension or fight by having rimuru fix everything in the middle)

>>30381
Most of those OP MCs that are worshipped are the snarky ass goofballs

As for your second paragraph, idk.

>>30385
What ? So you want a story where the guy is perfect, but also le stoic gigachad about it ? You should read dante's inferno then lol

>>30387
One Punch Man was close to the mark of the perfect MC that's a stoic gigachad



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Recommend good yaoi for me
Picrel is Warehouse which is actually korean, not japanese, but I think manhwa is close enough to manga
Doesn't have to be explicit, can be full of yearning as well.
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yaoi is gay

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>>30100
Unironically true.

>>30099
I wish this were true.

>>30019
Yarichin Bitch Club

>>30170
The rape is still glorified but not in the same campy way of average yaoi stories



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/ANIMETA/
General Thread discussing, analyzing and criticizing anime from the meta perspective of Capitalism, Media Culture (Industry) and Socio-Economics & Politics.
No shitflinging, drama, bad faith or baiting posts (e.g. "Trap is transphobic" or "Muh shounen trash" or "(all) Anime is misogynistic"). Keep it cool comrades.

Animation: Treatment of Animators Thread >>617
Leftist Anime Content: Communist Anime Thread >>1417 Communist Anime Girls Thread >>964 Miyazaki Thread >>469
Anime Hot Takes >>1993 so-bad-it's-good animu >>2551
Sources and Questions: Questions and Answers >>4229
E-celebs/Social Media: Ani-tube >>3128 V-tubers >>3388
Story Ideas: /WYOA/: write your own anime thread >>4263
Shounen complaint thread >>3200
Weeb-Otaku-/jp/ thread: /weaboo/ >>4715

Basic topics and questions:
>Is anime bad/stupid/boring or good/smart/interesting?
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>>20039
Imo, the underdog MC is overdone but what’s even worse is when they make MCs into awkward hapless goofballs.

Does anyone else here tire of the sympathy or redemption arcs given to villians?

Seriously, bad guys spend five, six, seven, eight seasons slaughtering or gaslighting people, they’re even responsible for horrendous falling outs that happen with the protagonists. Some of the protagonists were direct victims of the villains.

Yet, the villians are somehow given a change of heart and are spared their lives and even still allowed freedom of range.

Meanwhile, lesser villains are killed off, antiheroes are held in contempt.

Cynical bitter protagonists are told to get over themselves.

>>17990
I’m sick and tired of people complaining about sexualisation in anime while salivating over western animated characters, making fanart of their favorite western female character

>>18122
This

>>18121
Also this.
Anglos even freak out about surreal humor being out in kids shows



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one of these is LITERALLY YOU:

<the shonenfag

>never grew out of his childhood tastes
>might watch other action-heavy anime but that's pretty much the bulk of his diet
>genuinely kind of stupid
<the post-shonenfag
>slightly grown up, broadened his tastes somewhat, mostly into light novel adaptations and romance now that he no longer thinks girls are icky
>still, at heart, kind of stupid
<the artfag
>cares sincerely about history and technical details
>knows a bunch of cool obscure shit, but also likes a lot of actual rubbish
>will eventually get tired of sharing a fandom with all these other people and leave
<the otaku
>makes funny haha jokes about how random forgettable CGDCT or ecchi is better than acclaimed stuff, pretty much entirely because of a female character he likes
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It's me, the artfag

>writing a yuri military sci-fi web serial
sounds awesome actually

>>30193
I'm an oldhead tumblrina despite getting into anime relatively recently.

gooner+artf*g

Hot take: harem/isekai anime is not as bad as people make it out to be.
It’s just that psychosexual gratification for male audience is looked down upon



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I once wrote a post speculating on the causes behind the rise of isekai and how the evolution of Japanese anime reflects societal changes in Japanese society beginning from its economic boom of the 1980s, but I’m not sure if it holds up in 2025-2026. Since I’m unfamiliar with otome-type isekai that is targeted to a female audience, I omitted it from my post. Anyway, here’s the main text:

You ever notice how most modern manga/anime releases are isekai or LitRPG slop? That isn’t random, and it isn’t just “bad writing.” It reflects who the audience is and what kind of society they’re living in.
The core consumer base is overwhelmingly struggling, isolated Japanese men in their 20s–30s (and increasingly older), often single, often overworked, often priced out of meaningful adulthood in one of the most expensive urban environments on earth. Many of them peaked socially in high school, before rent, career stagnation, and demographic collapse set in. Their main leisure activity is gaming — especially Western medieval fantasy RPGs — so the fantasy worlds they escape into are already familiar.
That’s why isekai looks the way it does. It isn’t about originality or artistic ambition; it’s about frictionless escapism. These stories let readers imagine themselves transported into a sanitized West European fantasy theme park where their accumulated gaming literacy suddenly becomes power, status, and sexual access. The protagonist can’t really fail, can’t meaningfully struggle, and can’t be morally challenged — because that would defeat the point.
This is also why isekai protagonists are so aggressively generic: They aren’t “protagonists” in the literary sense, as much as the voiceless and character-less player character typical of games like Pokemon Red. The less personality, the easier the self-insert. The less social embeddedness, the easier the exit from real life. These characters aren’t written as humans so much as interfaces.
Are there good isekai? Yes — Digimon, Re:Zero, a handful of others — but they’re exceptions precisely because they violate the unspoken contract of the genre by insisting on consequence, trauma, or actual character development. Most isekai avoids humanity altogether, because humanity introduces risk.
A lot of people blame “shut-in authors with no life experience,” but that’s only half the story. The bigger issue is the ecosystem.
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>>29835
if you are not baiting you are hilariously full of yourself. you spent less time working on your post than you expect people to spend reading it. the only thing that could explain your ridiculous arrogance is you believing you are actually the center of the universe, and i hope a fatal and painful accident comes and disproves that notion as soon as possible, you stupid faggot.

>>29836

Wow, you truly are miserable if you feel compelled to send me a death threat out of nowhere. Getting this worked up over a rando post by an anon, when you could have easily ignored it if you really thought it was that bad. Says more about you than me ngl. At least I did get some replies out of it FWIW.

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>>29833
>perhaps you shouldn’t have any issues with linking anything on this board
NTA but there's LITERALLY an Isekai thread with these points being made numerous times by numerous people. And the Evangelion thread and the ANIMETA thread and the Animator thread. Use Catalog you textwalling, rambling uyghur.

>Or why isekai and fantasy are now more prominent than ever
youre like 5 years late you substack larper

>>29825
This. All the complaints about isekai are the same people who indulge in shonen all day, cheering on antiheroes and stuff which is more escapist and idealistic than iseakai



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What the fuck even is the point of harem series? Aren't most of them just romance but with an even greater chance of blueballing you?
Yeah, it SEEMS like pure wish fulfillment, but it isn't even good at that because in most shows there's only relentless teasing instead of any actual romance and the MC only ends up with one of the candidates anyway.
The only explanation I can come up with is that it's just a way to increase the appeal (and thus commercial potential) of a standard romance series by cramming it with different archetypes. Either that or anime fans just love getting teased with no real guarantee of a reward, which would explain a lot, actually.
(Also) This thread is for all the harem anime, manga, light novels/virtual novels etc. Post your Favorite Anime, Favorite Scenes, What you like about them, memes, discussion, lewds and anything in between.
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>>27137
Harem animes been popular for decades

>>27137
>I have yet to see that.
bro is blind :skull_emoji:

>>24315
>>21167
Files restored

Why is there so much animosity towards male psychosexual gratification?
We never get much criticism about reverse harems

>>26896
Average male ≠ incel loser
Incel losers would be shut ins



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I was watching a cartoon from my child and realized that the saturday morning cartoon generation lucked out. Other than some outliers like avatar or adventuretime, the good stuff was 90s-early naughty aughties. This is not just nostalgia but demonstrably true as merch from these cartoons is still popular as ever for kids. I work as a substitute teacher and they still watch our old cartoons and it's actually super weird, I didn't watch captain kangaroo or whatever boomer crap my mom watched when i was a kid.

Batman Beyond Yeah, Batman is a billionaire who has kids running around in tights in his mansion and beats up environmentalists and poor people. But I'll always love the gimmicks and his "rouge's gallery" has the best gimmicks.
Batman Beyond he's not rich he's just a regular kid living in a much cooler dystopia than the one we wound up with. The animation and voice acting are both top notch.
Gargoyles- From the same animation bloc, with some legendary voice acting from Keith David, Marina Sirtis, Jonathan Frakes. A very 'serious' show that Disney wants us to forget that they ever produced.
ReBoot Ever what wonder what life inside a computer would be like if all the 0s and 1s were sentient? Well, a show like this will make a tech nerd scream but it's one of several quality early 3d CGI coming out of Canada during this period.
Animaniacs It's honestly amazing how much SFW 'adult' humor was snuck into these shows. I think I learned more about popculture from Wakko, Yakko, and Dot than anywhere else.
The SlayersThe first "real" anime I saw and it got me interested in anime and d&d style worlds.Pretty thought out lore and universe.

So what are yours comradanons
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>>30050
anime really did fall off in the 2010s though, the decade of cool Japan trying to be a cultural soft power released banger after banger.

pic is 2006 spring anime release and it's just stacked.

>>30106
no hellsing ultimate?

>>30106
This has the same kinda shit that was in the 2010s though.

I miss the 2010s.
Boku No Hero, Magi: Labyrinth Of Magic, Merman In My Tub, Haikyuu, etc

>>30059
>First Tom and Jerry short: 1940
>Captain Kangaro: 1955
Did they take some time to air Tom and Jerry on TV? Because even then it should be from around the same time.

>>29958
Why is it so weird to be greenlit as kids entertainment? I think it’s the most relatable.



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