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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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 No.6563[Reply]

A list of reading groups and their schedules that have chosen to advertise themselves here. Take a minute to check them out. If you would like to promote your reading group, feel free to leave a comment telling people where they can go.

>>5912 /read/

>>6162 Continental Floppa
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>>20178
I don't know why there's so much Nietzsche on there, so it might just be a meme, but Family, Private Property, and The State stands out as a good read. Any sane person would read the pair of shorter essays(Wage, Labor and Capital and Value, Price, and Profit) along with Engels' Socialism: Utopian and Scientific before even attempting to break into Capital.

Last row is worth reading if you want to learn more about Imperialism, though read Lenin's Imperialism before doing so. I haven't gotten very far into any of these works so I can't say much more on the topic.

Blackshirts and Reds is the first steps on de-programming the liberal take on previous socialist states, but it is only a starting point and you will need to do further research before sharing your knowledge with more skeptical people. You might not want to hear this, but r/Communism101 has a pretty good Masterpost on whichever state/issue you want to research.

Reform or Revolution should be paired with William Blum's Killing Hope as a dose of "Why reformism cannot and will not ever produce fundamental change."

I don't know much about anything else on the chart, though.

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>>20178 READ THE BIBLE, FEAR GOD AND KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS FOR THIS IS THE WHOLE DUTY OF MAN FOR GOD SHALL BRING EVERY WORK INTO JUDGEMENT WITH EVERY SECRET THING WHETHER IT BE GOOD OR EVIL! READ THE KING JAMES BIBLE, TRUST JESUS!



 No.12217[Reply]

Reading group for Volume 1 of Capital. The reading pace will adjust to suit the group, but we will aim for an average of 1 chapter per week, starting slower and speeding up as we move from abstract to concrete toward the end.

The Book
The version we are using as our standard is the Penguin Classics edition (attached .epub) but others including other languages are fine. We are only planning to read Volume 1 currently.
There has also been an audiobook suggested which matches this version of the text and may be useful to helping read it.
Audiobook: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUjbFtkcDBlSHVigHHx_wjaeWmDN2W-h8

The Format
This thread is intended for
<announcements and updates
<supplementary material.
<Q&A
<long-form posts, effortposts, OC
<slower discussion in general
The matrix chat is intended for
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 No.20045

>>19846
I'm onto volume 2 and there's nobody on here to discuss it with

 No.20123

>>20045
I'd rather not wade through it again, to be honest my comprehension of it is lacking compared to volume one, but I probably should.

I think this topic is worthy of sending a thread off the bottom of the catalogue.

Want to make a new thread about it here in /edu/?



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 No.9298[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

ITT: resources and tips about navigating the Internet and researching topics

Feel free to post your own resources and tips too.

I'm going to post a lot of my own that I have gathered over the years.
I ask that random chit-chat in this thread is kept to a minimum except regarding technical questions & answers on the topic matter.
This is so that resources are kept as compact as possible, and so, readable.

First I'll dump resources and tips for researching various topics.
Note: I don't even have access to or use some of these myself (e.g. LexisNexis which seems to be pay-to-use), but I figure they could be helpful in some narrow cases. I use most of these myself. If the initial things I post don't interest you, keep reading anyway. I'm going to be dumping a lot of content.

PressReader
https://www.pressreader.com/
Find key terms in newspapers and magazines.
I would say this is more helpful for finding sources that do exist rather than for reading them, per se. You can try to read the articles elsewhere than PressReader if you know their titles or part of their body text. The site appears to brand itself as pay-to-use, however you can use the search tool anyway and even read some resulting articles.
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 No.18513

>>18376
>he sticks in a lot of Western literary allusions
literally the only thing that makes it entertaining. i don't think i could read him without it.

 No.18514

>>18486
i did it in high school and my main caution is that you need to hammer the tones into your skull before you try to do anything else and never ignore them, or else you'll end up entrenched in your unawareness like i did. the radicals and an understanding of their phonetic significance is a good way to start with the hanzi



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 No.1250[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Drop those PDF's or else
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 No.20573

Does anyone have a pdf of Alec Nove's Economic History of the USSR?

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 No.19860[Reply]

Everytime you visit /edu/, post in this thread. Tell us about what you're thinking about, what you're reading, an interesting thing you have learned today, anything! Just be sure to pop in and say hi.

Previous thread >>>/leftypol_archive/580500
Archive of previous thread
https://archive.is/saN3S

Excuse me coming through
A quick note on the video @ >>>/leftypol/1538283
Also [vid related] for archival purposes

Around the 29 minute mark Peterson criticizes Marx and Engel's for assuming that workers would magically become more productive once they took over.

This actually happened historically, most of the actually effective productivity tricks work places use now were developed by Stakhanovites.

https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1936-2/year-of-the-stakhanovite/year-of-the-stakhanovite-texts/stalin-at-the-conference-of-stakhanovites/
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>>20540
this guy is great, he's spent much of the second section going after the social analysis of people he disagrees with while laying out the one that he's going to be using

 No.20543

I'm looking for new stuff for read and usually used that old thread that listed some materials for beginners, I already looked at the manifesto and other must read stuff, thinking about going through state and revolution, or maybe capital or even German ideology

 No.20551

Could I get some recommendations on how the idea of queer rights have been co-opted to justify imperialism? I hear the "America is fighting for our right to exist" argument very frequently in my day-to-day life now for some reason.

 No.20559

I just read the first chapter of Value, Price and Profit.

I understand what he's saying on a simple level but I can't explain it to myself.

Anyone know how to understand this type of thing more effectively?

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>>20559
Print it out if you have to, then annotate with pen.



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 No.20472[Reply]

Can I start my theory by just cracking this open, or is there something else I should read first?
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 No.20490

>>20480
Yeah reasonable entry reads, but Theses is actually included at the end of that (it's where it was originally published).

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>>20489
start with the moderns

 No.20565

>>20472
This is pretty good intro to the Dialectical Materialist and Historical Materialist philosophies of Marx/Engels

 No.20566

>>20489
Start with Hammurabi

 No.20569

>>20489
start with the sumerians



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 No.20527[Reply]

I'm aware of a book called My Life with the Taliban that is a memoir of a Taliban fighter who fought the insurgency against the US in the early 2000s, that one seems interesting, I'm imagining there must be some memoirs of American soldiers too right? If you know of any of either Iraq or Afghanistan feel free to give me some suggestions. Something that's like Storm of Steel or similar to that type of war memoir.

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 No.12200[Reply]

I wanna state that I'm from Pakistan and grew up in a community that was very proud of its self, we see ourselves as our ethnic group and everybody else is an outsider
Said just comes as a across as a whiny self hating cunt and applies that whiny cunt nature towards everyone outside Europe, the man knew aboustetly nothing about the middle east, south asia or the muslim world, he was a white radlib(culturally) who had the luck of having ethnic heritage to justify his basis

 No.12201

What? Orientalism is about cultural depictions in the west
Thanks for letting us know you're an ethnonationalist I guess

 No.12203

>>12201
I disagreed with it, cause like it or not those ethnolouges are probably the few accurate accounts of my people, there are some bias but I have read them and they were oddly tolerate and the internetion was for understadning
Said was just to far up his own ass to see that

 No.20562

>>12203
nah, you're just a liberal and low iq..

 No.20563

>>12200
because most firstworlders here have the same disease, they don't give a shit about marxism or actual politics in general, they just use it as a tool to hate themselves and their surroundings. why do you think "rich kid guilt" and "idpol" are a topic here but the auto workers strike isn't?
take a random subject and try to come up with the most stupid, incongruent and straight up incorrect take that you can. now wrap it in some cheap "west bad, east good" rhetoric and post it here. as a fellow esl you can probably recognize native and non-native speakers. evaluate the reactions yourself, they won't surprise you



 No.9252[Reply]

ITT post information about the history and anthropology of the New World. A lot of new anthropological work has been done in this field in recent decades that has not yet entered public consciousness.
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Everyone should start with this.

 No.20553

The first battle between a Mesoamerican army and Spanish colonists actually happened in 1517, two years before Cortes invaded Mexico. A Spanish expedition was defeated by Chakan Putum, a Mayan city-state.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hern%C3%A1ndez_de_C%C3%B3rdoba_expedition
The Mayan victory was commemorated by the Bolivian and Mexican governments in 2021

 No.20554

>>20549
That book is about the post-Columbian era though.

 No.20560

Leather armor made by the Mapuches. It was made from the skin of guanacos & sea lions, and later cows brought by the Spaniards.

 No.20561

>>20560
this goes hard, did they pick up the the pike formation from the Spanish or did they develop it independently to combat cavalry?



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 No.18675[Reply]

>Bolsheviks were the party of workers, proletarians
>Bolsheviks didn't give a fuck about the peasants
>in fact, peasants were counter-revolutionary and petit-bourgeois
Meanwhile, the Bolshevik logo has a SICKLE on it. Why do internet MLs refuse to consider the fact that we need people to grow food, and like it or not, we don't have replicators or vertical, indoor industrial-scale farming (yet), so it stands to reason that we must ally ourselves with those who grow food or want to grow food. It seems there is this attitude that we (communists) can just do whatever, not make allies, because there is this assumption that we'll just fight and defeat anyone who disagrees. But for a fledgling movement, like communism, peasants and the army are two important parts of "the people". Without them, the urban proletariat would starve or be quickly defeated by an actual army.

Well, /leftypol/? How do we get a large part of the army and "peasantry" on our side?
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 No.18742

>>18736
The professional managerial class duh

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>>18675
The Bolsheviks were nerds and fags, and needed to be removed by Chad Stalin and his true working class Stalin and his inner circle

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>>18736
the urban petit-bourgeoisie and some of the peasantry

 No.20557

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How do we purge the left of this notion that class is some kind of essence embodied within people rather than a social relation they are trapped within? Bolsheviks didn't hate peasants or proletarians, they wanted to move on beyond peasantry to a more developed form of production relations. They were opposed to peasantry and proletarianization i.e. the structure, the institution of these class structures. They wanted to free the peasants and proles (the people) from these oppressive class positions, put instead in a classes position of simply a worker, common to everyone in society.



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