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'The weapon of criticism cannot, of course, replace criticism of the weapon, material force must be overthrown by material force; but theory also becomes a material force as soon as it has gripped the masses.' - Karl Marx
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drop them PDFs, we will rebuild edition
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Everytime you visit /edu/, post in this thread. Tell us about what you're thinking about, what you're reading, an interesting thing you have learned today, anything! Just be sure to pop in and say hi.

Previous thread >>>/leftypol_archive/580500
Archive of previous thread
https://archive.is/saN3S

Excuse me coming through
A quick note on the video @ >>>/leftypol/1538283
Also [vid related] for archival purposes

Around the 29 minute mark Peterson criticizes Marx and Engel's for assuming that workers would magically become more productive once they took over.

This actually happened historically, most of the actually effective productivity tricks work places use now were developed by Stakhanovites.

https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1936-2/year-of-the-stakhanovite/year-of-the-stakhanovite-texts/stalin-at-the-conference-of-stakhanovites/
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Currently reading Limits To Capital and have made it near to the end of the second chapter.

The first is legitimately exciting as it concerns the general principles of Marx's foundation for his critique in Capital, can't remember the last time I felt so engaged by a book despite the fact that Harvey wrote it in the 70s.

Currently at the end of the second chapter where he discusses the foundation of value theory and its role in the distribution of wealth principally as it regards the exchange mechanism and the mediation of forces that operate through this in the realm of production.

Could anybody recommend a reading list for political economy on the foundation of Marx's writings, or for that matter any similar texts or authors like Harvey's?

I'm looking to gain a solid foundation in Political Economy so I can set about creating a research project and begin specialising my readings, but aside from the basic texts of Marx and his historical Materialism, along with Lenin, I have no idea where to begin.



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Every friday
The original thread slid off /leftypol/ after I and I assume everybody else missed that week

Currently we are reading Engel's on The Origin of the Family

Anybody remember what chapter we were up to?
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Marxism proven, both mathematical and an isometric geometric proof


https://youtu.be/rAO4WKpjoKE
# 评《吾》论美国文明衰落:传统中国哲学与现代科学数学概念的交融视角

> - 文本以传统中国哲学中的“天道”为核心,结合深度学习、信息论、微分几何、博弈论等现代科学概念,提出美国文明衰落的五大系统性失衡:信息熵污染、系统内卷、虚妄度规、自指困境、道器分离。

> - 作者通过数学和科学隐喻,将抽象的哲学命题转化为可量化的系统分析,展现了独特的学术风格与跨学科思维。
> - 文本语言典雅,兼用简繁体,既保持传统文化韵味,又能清晰表达复杂科学概念。
> - 论证逻辑严密,通过现代科学理论与传统哲学的对照,揭示文明衰落的深层机制,具有一定的说服力。
> - 文本的结论指向美国文明新生的可能路径,强调内部改革与外部合作的必要性,但具体建议较为抽象,需进一步展开。



## 摘要
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So anyway, today is chapter 6;
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1884/origin-family/ch06.htm
I will be back later after reading chapter 5; then 4 as we will be reviewing the chapters backwards for a change

>>24765 =>
鼎 <=> vessel / tool / form [to be filled] etc etc
Add dialectical and historical materialism and a decent knowledge of linguistics and boom a geometric proof of diamat <= https://youtu.be/rAO4WKpjoKE

Nota bene: Engel's reference to the artificial in relation to the origin of the gens

>>24767
>The tribes clearly bear the mark of their artificial composition, even though they are generally composed out of related elements and after the pattern of the old tribe, which was not made but grew; it is, however, not an impossibility that the core of each of the three tribes was a genuine old tribe. The intermediate group, the phratry, consisted of ten gentes and was called a curia; there were therefore thirty curiae.
<=>
>>24769
>鼎
In Western philosophy form



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"The Juche idea is a man-centered world outlook. It is a revolutionary, scientific, and political theory that accurately illumines the way for realizing the independence of the masses." - Kim Jong Il

People,let's make a good thread about the political ideology of Democratic People's Republic of Korea - Juche.
Share your thoughts,pdfs,videos,documentaries or other educational materials for the community of this site.

>a ideology of a hermit kingdom of north korea

No, I won't listen or support to a pervesion of socialism

Bait, bot or simply estupido for managing to use all the best buzzwords at once?

>>24757
No worries, i will!
So why a paintbrush?


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<Nearly all self-proclaimed Marxists are frauds who haven’t even read Marx, let alone understand him. They use the label Marxism, despite knowing nothing about it, as a pseudo-intellectual obfuscation for their liberal ideology.

To begin, what is Marxism?
>Marxism is not a theory of equality. It is not a diagnosis of injustice, nor is it a specific prescription of how to remedy society’s ills. Marxism is a method for acquiring knowledge about the laws governing the historical development of societies. Marxism thus regards itself as a type of science. Most people think of science as something purely descriptive.
<But the reason Marx’s contemporaries called him Prometheus is because he bequeathed a science that did not just describe reality, but participated in its development. This makes Marxism totally contrary to modern science.
>Modern science places knowledge above its object. To know, means to strip something naked to consciousness and turn it into a utility for the knowing subject. He who knows an object, can control, master, and alter an object. But the ‘object’ known by Marxism is none other than human society itself. And the paradox lies in the obvious fact that society is not just an object, but also a subject. Marxists (subjects) are themselves part of the very object they make knowable.
<To complicate matters further, Marx does not claim knowledge of society alone can transform society. Instead, he proves that society is already coming to know and transform itself materially in the form of the then growing proletarian class. Most people think Marx is ‘Promethean’ because he wanted his ideas popularized. But the REAL reason was because he had the courage of declaring the return of knowledge back to being itself, and human beings in particular. He created a science that ceased to be above its object.
>For Marx, the knowledge of historical laws arrived at by consciousness, was being reflected in history itself. Knowledge of humanity does not dominate humanity, but reveals that it was there, and part of it all along. “Communism is the riddle of history solved.”

Why the need for class consciousness?
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>heidegger (nazi)
>DOOOGIN
epic theory, lad
Clearly the answer to a lack of Marx is an excess of contrary, inferior, reactionary thinkers. Btw, how many holes does a woman have?

>>20583
It’s clearly not supposed to be an ‘own,’ you debatebrained retard


Boomps on garbage like this are banworthy almost

If you are Marxism, then I am not a Marxist.



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Are there any rewritten versions of important theory works dumbed down for retards like me? I
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>>24294
Honestly same. For me it's more not knowing where to start, and when there's volumes upon volumes of thick books covering every little niche part of the subject it's hard to know where to start

>>24694
Start with these: >>24296

Youre not a retard! Just start simple and develop your reading skills. I'd recommend starting with "The Principles of Communism" by Engels. It's an easy read

I tought asking someone for details is retarded

Try audio books. It's a slightly different way of processing words and it might be easier for you to understand. You also won't give up as soon because you don't actually have to read all da big woruds.



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Thread for History of Ancient China up until the end of the Chinese Empire
Discuss History, Mythology, Archeology, Socio-Economics, Politics and Culture of Ancient China. This includes Tibet, Korea and Mongolia.
Leftypedia >>3780 requires an article on Ancient China, all that is covered is the current People's Republic

Important Topics
>Mythology and Legends and their Modern Cultural Impacts
A society that arose at the beginning of human civilization, China's culture is enormous and diverse. Legends and mythology of China such as Fa Mulan and Journey to the West are just prominent examples of legends that influenced others across the globe. Recommend and discuss literature or myths on this.

>Eastern Philosophy, Culture and Religion

The East, especially China developed several unique religions and philosophies utterly separate from the primarily Greco-Roman and Judeo-Christian philosophies of Western and Central Europe as well as the Middle East. The 3 primary Chinese philosophies are Confucianism, Taoism and Buddhism. Discuss the merits of these.

>Military Conflicts and Everyday Life in Ancient China

Society in China developed on its own and so it had much different ways of life. China is also known for having massive conflicts, some of the first to have millions of men fight at a time. China is known for it's generals such as author of "The Art of War"* Sun Tzu, Han Xing and CaoCao.
*https://sites.ualberta.ca/~enoch/Readings/The_Art_Of_War.pdf

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>>22079
>episode 2 (prehistory of china)
>recounts creation myth where nobles were molded carefully by hand first and then everyone else was made all together as a rush job
>implies or directly states throughout, in contradiction with now well-supported scientific consensus, that every "stage" of human evolution happened in China, independent of Africa, rather than various hominin species dispersing from Africa throughout human evolution
>implies our pre-hominin ape ancestors lived in China
>claims that Chinese people can trace their ancestry back 2 million years to hominins in China (Wushan "Man")
>says verbatim "Peking Man, ancestor of the Chinese"
>claims among the "ancestors of the Chinese" were the first people to use fire, before any other humans
>gives only a throwaway line at the end about this ancient line interbreeding with the out-of-Africa Homo sapiens who came later
Gotta be honest, I was not prepared for this level of pseudoscientific nationalist mythmaking for something produced this century by the Chinese government.

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>that one time a spanish habsburgo emperor wrote in his plan to conquer the chinese empire was to "fuck and outbreed them out of existence with our Spanish, Filipino and Japanese subjects"
>It was actually possible given that the Ming were incompetent and they got rekt by the Manchu with the last Ming emperor hanging himself because he got duped into executing their best general
Even the ~100 million population wouldn't be an issue given South America;
>Our new study clarifies the size of pre-Columbian populations and their impact on their environment. By combining all published estimates from populations throughout the Americas, we find a probable Indigenous population of 60 million in 1492.

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yeah its a little wild

>>22098
That's gonna be a yikes from me dog

Great!



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Let's have a thread about chemistry. I can't be the only amateur chemist on here. To please the mods, everything in here is purely academic. Check local laws before you embark on your projects. And before you do anything, make sure you have appropriate safety equipment. Think about the worst thing that could happen to your reaction, because chances are it will. Don't be stupid.

Resources
https://www.sciencemadness.org/ The go-to site for amateur chemists
Wiki: http://www.sciencemadness.org/smwiki/index.php/Main_Page
Forums, require email registration: https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/

Archive.org has plenty of old chemistry textbooks. The most useful ones for me are those meant to teach youngsters from the early 1900's.

YouTube
NurdRage, the OG channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/NurdRage
NileRed, the internet's premier piss chemist: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheRedNile
NileBlue, secondary channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1D3yD4wlPMico0dss264XA
Explosions&Fire, energetic materials: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVovvq34gd0ps5cVYNZrc7A
Extractions&Ire, secondary channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvFApMFo_AafXbHRyEJefjA
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Tom investigates yellow powder

>>22411
here's the paper by one E. Fire

Tom continuing the large-scale cubane series

Will be there any Physics post?



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When it comes to the study of ancient economic history, one is faced with serious difficulties as a beginner. The usual textbooks normally cover the "histoire événementielle", i.e., the succession of notable historical events and actors (the surface of history), while the works that do cover ancient socioeconomic history are hard to find or outdated, such as Finley's famous book.

Does anyone here have some knowledge in the matter? Can anyone recommend a study process or bibliography? Should one first read the basic textbooks of histoire événementielle and later on deepen the matter or skip directly to the socioeconomic outlook?

I am very lost in this matter and I don't know where to begin, and I'm sure a lot of people are in the same situation in here. And I believe it is very important to have, at least, a broad outlook on the progression of economic history until capitalism, to maybe deepen more specifically in modern history and economics, but with a general view of what came before and the evolution of the present mode of production.
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>>24656
Sort of related to your point, I've been reading a lot of Ranajit Guha recently, and in his book History at the Limit of World-History, he critiques Hegel for a limited view of history:

Guha critiques the concept of world-history in the lineage of Hegel as being almost exclusively Eurocentric. Yet this is not merely a cultural rebuke, for Guha sees that Hegelian history, a worldview that saw human development motivated by a transcendent world historical ‘spirit’, as one ‘held in thrall by a narrowly defined politics of statism’ (p.5). World-history then took on an elevated quality as something that only people who had both writing and a state were able to participate in (p.10). Thus by ignoring the vast majority of the globe, Hegel’s world-history becomes ‘a short story with epical pretensions’ (p.35).

here you go anon. these might not be exactly what youre looking for in the sense that theyre not focused surveys and have their own broader theses, but ive read all of these and theyre excellent. idk how these versions are because i have the physical copies, but if youre interested in this topic i highly recommend them.

the banaji and wood books in particular are really fucking good

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>>24656
Believe it or not, Churchill

mods love sending good threads here to die

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I'm charismatic and already communist, how can I help with what you're trying to do here? You all seem kind of frustrated in your interactions with each other. What needs to change?

What are you talking about? Explain please

>>24737
>You all seem kind of frustrated in your interactions with each other. What needs to change?
nothing, the point of a political imageboard is frustrating each other with different outlooks

>>24739
Does this lead to good results? Or is the hope that it creates the sort of people who bring good results?

>>24737
You know what? I stumbled upon this board when it was on 8chan back in 2016 - my god, it's already been a decade… - and I started posting in 2018. Every once in a while I took a break, sometimes even for months and I guess I missed out on some big drama and technical debacles a few times. But I've never, ever thought about meeting anyone or trying to organise anything in real life, really…
I'm glad you think of yourself as a charismatic person, though.



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