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 No.12217[Reply]

Reading group for Volume 1 of Capital. The reading pace will adjust to suit the group, but we will aim for an average of 1 chapter per week, starting slower and speeding up as we move from abstract to concrete toward the end.

The Book
The version we are using as our standard is the Penguin Classics edition (attached .epub) but others including other languages are fine. We are only planning to read Volume 1 currently.
There has also been an audiobook suggested which matches this version of the text and may be useful to helping read it.
Audiobook: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUjbFtkcDBlSHVigHHx_wjaeWmDN2W-h8

The Format
This thread is intended for
<announcements and updates
<supplementary material.
<Q&A
<long-form posts, effortposts, OC
<slower discussion in general
The matrix chat is intended for
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 No.20997

i already read entire Vol1 more than year ago. I have no started Vol2 still. Probably lot of anons in same situation. Lets start with Vol2 now

 No.21674

What is relative surplus value? Idk, it sounds like something to do with prices but I can't really wrap my head around how it is different from normal surplus value.



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 No.9298[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

ITT: resources and tips about navigating the Internet and researching topics

Feel free to post your own resources and tips too.

I'm going to post a lot of my own that I have gathered over the years.
I ask that random chit-chat in this thread is kept to a minimum except regarding technical questions & answers on the topic matter.
This is so that resources are kept as compact as possible, and so, readable.

First I'll dump resources and tips for researching various topics.
Note: I don't even have access to or use some of these myself (e.g. LexisNexis which seems to be pay-to-use), but I figure they could be helpful in some narrow cases. I use most of these myself. If the initial things I post don't interest you, keep reading anyway. I'm going to be dumping a lot of content.

PressReader
https://www.pressreader.com/
Find key terms in newspapers and magazines.
I would say this is more helpful for finding sources that do exist rather than for reading them, per se. You can try to read the articles elsewhere than PressReader if you know their titles or part of their body text. The site appears to brand itself as pay-to-use, however you can use the search tool anyway and even read some resulting articles.
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 No.21305

Can anyone recommend me books or chapters or writings talking about the overproduction and ineffective production of capitalism? And how is the communist is different

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 No.6563[Reply]

A list of reading groups and their schedules that have chosen to advertise themselves here. Take a minute to check them out. If you would like to promote your reading group, feel free to leave a comment telling people where they can go.

>>5912 /read/

>>6162 Continental Floppa
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>>20178
What is "Mythologies" by Toland Barthes?

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>>21582
Roland Barthes is one of several theorists associated with structuralism and post-structuralism. Start with these books then read Saussure, Levi-Strauss, Jakobson, Barthes, Lacan, Althusser, Deleuze, Guattari, Foucault, Baudrillard, Derrida, and Kristeva



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 No.8151[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

>Be Ernst Thälmann in the late 20s
>Leader of the KPD in Germany
>Get over 10% of the vote in 1928 (4th place)
>1930
>Get 13% (3rd place) but Hitler just came out of no where and got 18% (2nd place)
>It's obvious that Hitler is going to keep growing in power
>Hitler brags in speeches that he'll suppress every other party in the Reichstag once he wins
>He even wrote a book where he talks about bolshevism being the blood enemy of fascism
>Be Ernst Thälmann: massively popular, growing at a similar rate to Hitler, but don't know what to do
>Consult pre-1935 Comintern, guidelines only retards would follow (even Stalin admitted this later)
>"Whatever you do, don't make a coalition with the Social Democrats!" says Comintern
>Social Democrats are the only party bigger than the Nazis
>They are interested in forming a coalition with the KPD to beat Hitler
>"Nah, that sounds like social fascism to me"
>Thälmann decides to attack SD rather than Hitler
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 No.20828

>>8287
>Popular Frontism was wrong and a mistake of Dimitrov.
Posts the Leninhat

 No.21725

>>8211
I love how this question has never been answered. Truly, a dead website.

 No.21726

>>21725
Glowpedia source doesn't require refuting

 No.21728

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If he was a retard then why did the GDR make that cool ass movie about him with the great ending? Didn't think of that, did you OP, you faggot?

 No.21757

>>8223
Source? Also, I'd like to learn how the transition from parliaments to soviets happened and how it work.



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 No.21708[Reply]

I would like to ask for some recommendations for educational materials about:

French revolution.

Decemberist revolt.

US civil war.

I would like to know more about the material reality that caused them, effects of these events, sides which participated in them, the skirmishes and battles etc. I would prefer if the recommendation is a book, but other things are fine too. I’m fine with materials that are in english and or russian languages.
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>>21710
everything is fine, I would like to know as much as possible.

 No.21723

I'm not especially well read but:
Black Jacobins seems to give a good account of the French Revolution (since it's inseparable from the Haitian)
Haven't read it yet but an anon in /usapol/ recommended Battle Cry of Freedom for the US burgerkrieg.
I have read Foner's Reconstruction which deals with slavery before, during and after said war along with the different forms that Reconstruction took, highly recommend.

 No.21746

>>21723
thank you! If anyone got more recs please post them!

 No.21755

The Spanish Constitution gave hope to enlightened Russians for building a just society in their Fatherland. So, if the Decembrists "awakened" Herzen, then the Decembrists themselves were "awakened" by the very boldness of Spanish democracy. In the opinion of some historians, the project of the Russian constitution by Prince Sergei Trubetskoy was partially based on the Spanish law of 1812. One of its main points is almost word-for-word taken from the Spanish version of the document: "The Russian people, free and independent, are not and cannot be the property of any person or family" - "Nación española es libre é independiente sin ser ni poder ser patrimonio de ninguna familia ó persona (The Spanish people are free and independent and do not belong to nor can belong to any family or person). The Spanish Revolution of 1820 added fuel to the fire, as during which military and liberal-minded segments of Spanish society managed to get Ferdinand VII to restore the "Constitution of the Cortes" of 1812. One of the Decembrist leaders, Pavel Pestel, literally dreamed of a Russian version of "pronunciamiento" (coup). He admitted that he believed in the realization of his plans, relying precisely on the example of the Spanish Revolution. The Decembrists often compared themselves to the leader of the Spanish revolutionaries, Rafael Riego. Many even believed that Sergei Muraviev-Apostol "resembled the Spanish hero closely and accurately." So, the Spanish Revolution can be considered one of the factors that influenced the events of December 14, 1825. In fact, it was the Spanish Revolution, not the French one, as the Decembrists believed that Napoleon's conquests were doomed.
https://little-histories.org/2016/05/13/tristeza_espanola/

 No.21756

an interesting article about the luddite movement
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/492191



 No.21751[Reply]

Been on a roll with Hofheinz, Bonnell, and Brody recently, and realized that I wanted to go deeper than what Buhle offered, so what if we started a reading group on the history of American Labor Organization and the material forces behind it that lead to business unionism as the only option? We can start with Buhle(and the sort of rebuttal that Minchin wrote via Labor Under Fire) but I'd like to hear other voices on the issue since I know I'm being retarded and narrow right now.

 No.21754

I am not a historian on the subject but as a union organizer, I think that the foundation of the UAW administration caucus marked a really big shift in the fundamental structure and mode of operation of the UAW that was followed by many unions. It may be worth a study.



 No.21730[Reply]

Are there any scholarly sources analyzing former communist snitch memoirs like Whittaker Chambers' Witness, Louis Budenz's This Is My Story, or Bella Dodd's School of Darkness?

I'm curious about the mentality of former communists who dipped and turned state, the "true" reasons they left communism to begin with, what inspired them to snitch, how their "redemption" stories were anything but, etc.
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 No.21736

Don’t remember what it’s called, but there was a book on psychoanalysis published shortly after Chambers’ death which proved he was a psychopath who snitched on Hiss mainly out of revengeful reasons.

 No.21737

https://www.proquest.com/openview/8850071a29d27e97e6b480971ad41e26/1?pq-origsite=gscholar&cbl=18750&diss=y

I have the full PDF but I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post that on here for copyright bullshit reasons.

 No.21738

>>21737
Is it on scihub?
>>21730
There's also Thomas Sowell an "ex-communist". Pretty funny what he says about communism and why it can't work.

 No.21741

>>21738
Don't think so.

Is there a place where I could legally upload the entire PDF and not face penalties?

 No.21750

>>21741
What makes you think you’d get in trouble if you uploaded it on here?



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 No.21740[Reply]

This is the third time I am making this thread. I made the first one on Bunkerchan back in the day and again on here, and both times it generated interesting discussions. So I ask again

What is consciousness?

 No.21743

A biological interface of self-awareness

 No.21744

We should proceed with the assumption that consciousness does not exist and try to prove its existence.

 No.21745

>>21744
Does your own consciousness exist?

 No.21747

>What is consciousness?
An unknown process crafted by natural selection, that is necessary for our mind to function properly.
>>21744
I think we can assume its existence, because we can all experience its symptoms. The goal should be to observe the process.



 No.19860[Reply][Last 50 Posts]

Everytime you visit /edu/, post in this thread. Tell us about what you're thinking about, what you're reading, an interesting thing you have learned today, anything! Just be sure to pop in and say hi.

Previous thread >>>/leftypol_archive/580500
Archive of previous thread
https://archive.is/saN3S

Excuse me coming through
A quick note on the video @ >>>/leftypol/1538283
Also [vid related] for archival purposes

Around the 29 minute mark Peterson criticizes Marx and Engel's for assuming that workers would magically become more productive once they took over.

This actually happened historically, most of the actually effective productivity tricks work places use now were developed by Stakhanovites.

https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1936-2/year-of-the-stakhanovite/year-of-the-stakhanovite-texts/stalin-at-the-conference-of-stakhanovites/
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 No.21733

>>21727
Michael hudson talks about this problem in regards to a rentier class, but the criticism marx makes of the money-capitalist goes further, especially in volume 3

 No.21734

>>21722
Try writing out notes to what you read, then simplify them into concepts and shorthand. Most stuff is just filler anyway, so skimming is allowed.
Also, most people in the west dont even read any non-fiction, so you are already more educated than the majority who just listen to podcasts.

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Found this book through my searches, and it proclaims to be a more balanced take on the AFL-CIO compared to Buhle's account(it mentions Taking Care of Business directly). Will read for a more domestic perspective on the union, but don't expect much more than additional rabbit holes to go through.

 No.21742

Skimming through Beyond Dispute by Stafford Beer and colleagues (1994). Beer is as pompous as Stephen Wolfram without having the math chops. This is about organizing people into discussion groups using the geometry of an icosahedron (20-sided die) as THE GOLD STANDARD and then there is a lot of babbling about psychology, Condorcet cycles (without calling them that), world citizenship, a (dumb) proposal for package sizes, and uuh Chakras.

So what's the deal with the icosahedron: The idea is to organize people into groups with discussion topics (one group got one topic, an individual is in more than one group) and to avoid hierarchy of people and hierarchy of topics. What logically follows from the hierarchy avoidance is that the organizational chart for this must be highly symmetric, which is true of this particular geometric shape, but also others.

A person is represented by an edge, a group & and its topic is represented by a corner, so a person is in two groups. Why not instead picture a 12-sided die as a mini planet of office dorks sitting at hexagonal tables, each table being a discussion group and at each corner sits a person in a chair rotating between three tables? Well, then two of the same dorks would be meeting in two discussion groups. In Beer's scheme, you meet completely different sets of people in your discussion groups, which is a good thing if you want many direct connections to other people in the org. A person actually visits more than two groups, by also being assigned the role of critic for two other groups (these are far away points from the two groups you are a "proper member" of).

Some voting procedures are presented that are crummy, but not really the core of the proposal, which is that beautiful shape. Am I really sold on that shape? Not quite, but I strongly agree with the emphasis on making links to many other people direct or short (one person between).

 No.21749

>>21742 (me)
>Why not instead picture a 12-sided die as a mini planet of office dorks sitting at hexagonal tables
*pentagonal tables



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 No.21009[Reply]

What should I read if I want to be a Maoist intellectual?

The only authors I've been suggested are Althusser and Badiou. Who else?
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 No.21403

>>21207
Usually the main criticism is Sakai uses a lot of quote mining.

 No.21404

Sison wrote a textbook on Maoism, similar to the one anon posted here >>21212

 No.21542

Any books that are unironically pro-Khmer Rouge or pro-Shining Path?

I know Jan Myrdal (Swedish NazBol) has praised Pol Pot before.

 No.21603

>>21024
Also Herbert Marcuse wrote a book on Heideggerian Marxism

 No.21729

>>21603
That too.



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