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Around the 29 minute mark Peterson criticizes Marx and Engel's for assuming that workers would magically become more productive once they took over.

This actually happened historically, most of the actually effective productivity tricks work places use now were developed by Stakhanovites.

https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1936-2/year-of-the-stakhanovite/year-of-the-stakhanovite-texts/stalin-at-the-conference-of-stakhanovites/
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>>25443
what specifically are you doubting?



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Post Copy pastas, videos and books which debunk common Fascist, Liberal talking points which are repeated often.
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>>25403
nationalism begins as a liberal movement with the french revolution, but has its prehistory in the reformation, where kings would claim sovereignty against the catholic church and so establish independence. it has since been appropriated by both the far left and far right as means of self-determination.
>>25395
national socialism was an existing movement which hitler became part of; he did not create it. the earliest mention of "national socialism" is in 1898, but it becomes official with rudolf jung's "der nationale sozialismus" (1919). in the book, anticapitalism and volkism is specified, with a special interest on fighting usury. there were of course internal divisions in NS, most notably the "socialist" wing in people like strasser, while hitler took the side of the industrialists.



 

drop them PDFs, we will rebuild edition
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What's the leftypol take on this book? I'm not trolling - it's existence has haunted my life. I was raised catholic… Christianity has both ruined & saved my life and my opinions on it have only gotten more complex.

Some of the greatest art of all time has been religiously motivated. But the question of Christianity specifically is a big one. On one hand all manner of brown people are more sincerely christian than a lot of white people have ever been. It might be the one thing saving Africa right now!

But on the other hand The first Roman Empire & Greek empire were polytheistic & they might have achieved a civilizational peak that surpasses the situation we live in right now. Christianity is very homophobic & a huge portion of Europe/UK demographics are atheist & seem to be some of the happiest nations on earth. Christianity might even be the reason that the Roman Empire fell & is responsible for a lot of really bad imperialism & colonialism.

What am I supposed to make of it? Jesus was surely a good man, no? The word of god has saved homeless, sick, and morally corrupt. Where does the justification to do evil come from when people read this?
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as for the old testament, its authentic antiquity is constantly professed; it was moses himself who wrote the first five books (even supposedly describing his own death at the end of deuteronomy), with the rest of the prophets adding to it. of course, this is entirely disputed by scholarly consensus, even concluding that the hebrew exodus from egypt was an event which never occured. as i have already demonstrated, previously existing myths such as the deluge, are later added to the contents of the scriptures, proving that it is not original or "revealed". this is barring any "scienific" privileges this book is supposed to possess, as a divine work.

conservative scholars such as yonatan adler and russell gmirkin make shocking claims as to the historicity of the texts. adler dates the historical canon of jewish torah back to the second century BC, at most. he says then, that judaism as a religion is no older than 200 BC (t. "the origins of judaism", chapter 7). adler however makes distinction beween judean "yawehism" and "judaism" in particular. elephantine papyri from the 5th century BC show that self-identified judeans worshipped a deity named YHWH, the only issue being the evidence of polytheism, and a lack of comprehensive jewish rite in this community (with moses also having no mention). he concludes by seeing the adoption of mosaic law as something influenced by greek prescriptive legislation and ultimately by the maccabean revolt, within the hasmonean uprising of 167 BC. only after this period, claims adler, do we see the adoption of torah as instruction. only after this do we get synagogues, etc.

so then, did judaism begin in 167 BC? perhaps, but what of the books of moses (the pentateuch) themselves? we may now move over to russell gmirkin, both in his books "berossus and genesis, manetho and exodus" (2006) and "plato and the creation of the hebrew bible" (2017), where he affirmatively states that the pentateuch was written in 270 BC by about 70 greek-jewish elders, and of which, was heavily inspired by plato, particularly "nomoi" (350 BC). we have already seen the influence of greek philosophy and playwriting in the book of john (i.e. dennis macdonald), so this should not be entirely surprising. if we are to take this seriously then, we have the literary history of the bible: the old testament begins in 270 BC, and the new testament ends around 150 AD, with the bible itself being compiled in 325 AD. so then, these are some thougPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>25447
>Some of the greatest art of all time has been religiously motivated
mostly because artists had to cater to their sponsor

>Christianity might even be the reason that the Roman Empire fell

yeah nah, on the contrary it was pretty unificating

>is responsible for a lot of really bad imperialism & colonialism

it was more a justification than the true cause, as religion often is

>Jesus was surely a good man

if the guy really existed (likely) and was and said things as depicted in the bible, the guy seemed pretty chill. like some sort of hippie
cathares were likely more true followers of the guy than the official church that won (dunno if you can find his things in english but pacome thiellement is pretty obsessed about them)

>The word of god has saved homeless, sick, and morally corrupt

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adding to the demystifying of the bible, we can see more mythological plagiarism by the appropriation of the enki and ninhursag story, which entirely mirrors the adam and eve myth. enki eats a forbidden fruit and his consort is made from his own rib. its unmistakable;
https://www.gatewaystobabylon.com/myths/texts/retellings/enkininhur.htm

on the same topic, here is a deconstruction of islamic literature, proving that islam is a false and conjectural religion, like judaism and christianity. the most popular faiths of the world rest on nothing but fantasy, and so it shows humanity is an irrational species.

now, what is shocking in my own research is that if we read plato's politeia (375 BC), we see what appears to be the invention of heaven and hell, along with a description of the noble lies; religion and class society. everything in this age seems to return back to plato, the father of idealism…

>>25447
A product of its' time, among many axial texts such as those of Buddhists and Confucianists. Some modern philosophers of science have proposed that they make better sense as a collection of 'sacred metaphors', that is, truthisms that let readers (or listeners, as before the Protestant Reformation the Bible was recited among a crowd instead of read privately: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lectio_Divina) break frame and connect themselves to their lived world. In this sense, there's a lot of evidence of an Aristotelian methodology within the Bible, which is something I typically talk about with the LW Protestants (Lutheran, Episcopalian, Eucharists) in my city to make the case for commie politics.

That being said, I don't believe the Bible is literally truthful, or even reliable, historical text. I think the prevalence of a literal interpretation comes from the myth-fetishism (folk theories) that most people have to shortcut understanding how the meaning of a thing relates to its' literal expression. Though I wouldn't doubt that's a holdover of religion in general being used as the locus of social control for millennia.

If you're interested in this, I ended up learning this framing of sacred texts in general from this one (sometimes annoyingly liberal) CogSci doctor from UoT. It's a 50-hour long web lecture series. I'll link the playlist here: https://johnvervaeke.com/series/awakening-from-the-meaning-crisis/



 

Esochannealogy: esoteric chan culture
- Information Warfare;
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- Cognitive Warfare;
- Memetic Warfare;
- Psychological Operations;
- Second Generation Memetic Warfare (SGMW/2GMW).

>>25429
Use these PDFs in AI. You will see the magic.

Bump.

Based.



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I'm 31. I never went to college because I considered it a waste of time. The state of education in the USA is abhorrent and I never for a moment considered there would be something to gain by wasting time in ideological brainwashing factories masquerading as educational institutions. I'm employed in the trades and I've always studied philosophy in my spare time, but I'm seriously considering university now because I believe (perhaps mistakenly) that my abilities and knowledge have reached a point of enough breadth and depth to make a career as a philosopher, and to get some papers and books published. Has anyone here pursued that path, and if so, what were your experiences?
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>>25439
Education especially in the humanities is a giant hazing ritual so you can finally join the club.

>>25439
No it isn't you fucking moron. The intelligentsia has a specific function and it was critiqued extensively by actually existing instances of socialism throughout history. They were not conceptually opposed to education proper, but neither is the OP's post–you are inferring a conflation where it doesn't actually exist. What is being insinuated is an issue with the system as it presently exists, which is not even an inaccurate take. It is INFNITELY more reactionary to defend the institutions as they currently exist, to reinforce the hegemonic arm of the intelligentsia, and to pretend that academia is somehow objectively neutral.

>>25484
By 'they' I mean people like Lenin, Marx etc.

>>25485
>>25484
Moreover, the entire premise of education (as it currently exists) is one of submission. It isn't an accidental stroke of etymology that you have to 'submit' a paper ;).
To deviate from the accepted standards is an unconscionable act, and deserves to be met only with browbeating in the eyes of the imperious arbitrators.
If you truly think critically, you'll come to the realization that much of academia is a kind of 'ritual' more than it is anything transcendentally objective; most of its presuppositions are arbitrary and cannot be honestly defended, and so they fall back upon the circularity of their own tautological self-validation, either through demanding accreditation (circular) or through deferring to likeminded communities who already predispose themselves to the starting premise that education *must* be an inherent 'good', i.e. curating their argumentative experience with the likes of reddit and bluesky and academic forums and so on (tautological). The basis of contemporary education is to work backwards from a series of starting presuppositions and deem anyone who attempts to dissent anew from this as 'stupid' or 'ignorant' or 'crazy'. So-called 'common sense' is really just a form of brutal conformism, and it is fundamentally feminine in essence–it is best encapsulated with the spirit of the phrase 'Really? I can't even…' or something akin to that. The very notion that the fundamental foundations might be a festering source is treated as an inconceivably profaned thing. I don't share the same cynicism towards the future possibility of the human condition, or the reading of its full nature, as Eugene, but he is absolutely on the mark at least with respect to the current state of affairs.

Name a single philosopher who has produced anything of world shattering, history moving value from the modern universities. There isn't one. Probably the most interesting figures currently out there are those involved in the speculative realist movement, but in the end, irrelevance is the doomed fate of those who radically innovate (i.e. 'challenge') under this system. If you want to be a philosopher, OP, you must do it for the love of an enduring truth which might one day be excavated and embraced hermeneutically, assuming anything evePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>25486
BTW OP I have a degree in philosophy. It was a waste of time and money and most importantly sanity. All it did was further entrench my hatred for the capitalist world.
Anyone who currently thinks this shit is worthwhile, at least from a philosophical (and not, say, medical–assuming an honest doctor, of course) perspective, is as delusional and pliable to recuperation as someone like Chomsky. It's hilarious to see so many anarchists embrace university. Worshipping a microcosmic mirror of the dynamic the state already serves, thereby telling on themselves in the implicit process: "We want to abolish our lack of power, not to abolish power altogether–we'll forge it again in our image." Very similar logic to Zionism, wherein the phrase "never again" is perverted into indicating "never again TO THE LIKES OF US", rather than being a universalist renunciation of genocide.



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Choosing a language edition

I do not know why we do not have an active language learning thread, so here you go.
If you got other links you think are worthy of being on here, do mention them.

>Language learning communities

r/languagelearning
https://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/

Language learner's forum
https://forum.language-learners.org/

Linguaholic's forum
https://linguaholic.com/

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>>25466
Advanced Chinese Reader (3/3)
I can only find a pdf of the reader, unfortunately
Here is a link to the textbook's Yale Press page anyhow https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300000566/advanced-chinese/
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/advanced-chinese-reader/id716763840


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>>25449
To be honest, i have never seen written Azerbaijani in Iran. The Azeri friends i have had mostly seem to speak it and that, only at home or with each other.

I did find this old document from pre-revolution era which appears to have been written in the Persian script.

>>25456
Interesting, Though anyone who has dipped his toes in Language Learning is sure to have heard of Anki.



 




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Do you guys have any books that highlight the cleverness of Soviet warfare in WW2 that dispute the Zerg rush narrative of the West? As far as I know the allies had all of their information of what was going on on the eastern front from Germans who overembelished their military prowess and downplayed those of the Soviets.
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>>21575
do you get paid to post garbage like this or you just have severe brainrot?

>>21576
Even worse, he does it for free because he's a literal NPC.

>>21575
none of these points you made are based on facts and just spewing shit like enemy at the gates, a movie, is a documentary.

>>21573
>The barbarism of the Soviet occupying forces can best be judged by the fact that many thousands of Hungarian men were raped or forced to unnatural excesses by Russian women soldiers. The Reds established a recreation camp near Kecskemét for more than thirty thousand sick and convalescent women members of the Soviet army and the police forces. From this camp, for instance, the Russian women banded together at night and swooped down on the surrounding hamlets, kidnapping the men and sometimes holding them captive for days.
Hawt

>>21581
why does this never happen to me



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The Rate of Profit: Rising or Falling?

Recently discovered there is a debate within Marxist economics that Marx had it incorrect, rather than rate of profit falling, due to capitalist technological innovation, cost-cutting and wage stagnation the Rate of Profit will rise, theorized by marxist economist Nobu Okishio.

Your thoughts?
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One other thing about a robotic co-worker; it would be the bestest buddy a human worker could ever have, if it weren't programmed by disgusting assholes. Robots are cool and don't start stupid shit for drama. Amazingly, of all of the ways humans were made into robots, they didn't think to suppress the obviously disgusting backstabbing behavior of humans. Instead the machine essentialized every malicious thing humans did and insisted you were supposed to "respect" it, so that fag managers can keep stealing more stuff and hiring their buddies.

>>25384
humans are machines
They’re just not made of metal

>>25426
If humans are machines, then why are the partisans of that view so emotional and spiritually invested in making you believe humans are machines? If humans are machines, and they really are, then it would not be unusual to regard the actual conditions of those machines, without any necessary intervention of a thought leader telling them what they are "supposed" to be.

It gets more insane and maddening the more these people insist on a failed system that cannot fail, only be failed.

>>25432
>everything in nature is mechanical except humans
hello, descartes.

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>>25426
>They’re just not made of metal
speak for yourself, meatbag



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