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Everytime you visit /edu/, post in this thread. Tell us about what you're thinking about, what you're reading, an interesting thing you have learned today, anything! Just be sure to pop in and say hi.

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A quick note on the video @ >>>/leftypol/1538283
Also [vid related] for archival purposes

Around the 29 minute mark Peterson criticizes Marx and Engel's for assuming that workers would magically become more productive once they took over.

This actually happened historically, most of the actually effective productivity tricks work places use now were developed by Stakhanovites.

https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1936-2/year-of-the-stakhanovite/year-of-the-stakhanovite-texts/stalin-at-the-conference-of-stakhanovites/
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>>19860
Currently reading up on Zapata and the history of Mexican revolution. Very nice book. Absolute clusterfuck of a historical period. Feels like a perfect example of how the Russian revolution would have looked like if there was no organized vanguard.

The starting point of the revolution is essentially the same as in Russia: A westernizing tyrant keeps fucking over the peasants and suppressing the bourgeoisie until the country is in such a deadlock that the whole thing blows up. It results in a peasants revolt, but the revolt keep getting swept up by various liberal reformers promising them the land reforms they want, only to inevitably get fucked over one way or the other. They get more radical as time goes on, but theyre so exclusively concerned with agrarian issues that they cannot really sweep up the rest of the population into their revolution. Zapata was a very impressive leader of the movement, and did the best he could, but was clearly not ideologically and strategically up for the task. You can tell he was uncomfortable dealing with any political issue or diplomatic relation outside of the agrarian concerns of his native province in Morelos.


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drop them PDFs, we will rebuild edition
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>>25259
Don't waste time with "Juche" that is nothing more that ideological glazzing to justify Kim dynasty to keep in power.


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well anons do you think Viruses are living organisms or just complex biochemicals? Which viral origin hypothesis do you like the best?

Points against
>Viruses are not capable of independent replication and have to use the cell machinery of there host to do so, even bacteria that have never been grown outside of a cell culture still retain cell machinery of their own.
>Viruses are dormant until they come into contact with a host and do not have a full range of metabolic processes
>If viruses are alive then wouldn't DNA, Plasmids, Prions and even some minerals be alive as well?

Points for
>if recent research indicating that viruses and hosts evolved from a common ancestor than how exactly would viruses evolve back into non-life?
>giant viruses have large genomes and cell machinery
>the metabolism first argument that excludes viruses from life would make plastids a form of life

<the sauce: https://microbiologysociety.org/publication/past-issues/what-is-life/article/are-viruses-alive-what-is-life.html

tbh I find the viral origin debate more interesting but lean towards viruses being alive, that being said I would look at the origin theories before making a decision on if they are alive or not. The Theories(copy and pasted from here: https://microbiologysociety.org/publication/past-issues/what-is-life/article/are-viruses-alive-what-is-life.html )
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>>24004
Now go 'filter' yourself, retards.

>>24003
Typo corrections since this site has no editing feature:
>less concerned with *ecology
>an effect *doesn't cease to count
(oh, and on that note, the contradiction, in case it wasn't obvious, concerns your original statement against the premise that 'all is life', as by your own standards any activity in existence would now constitute the threshold of categorical life)
>if the basic level *was merely a non-thing, it would remain inert
>as *purely being the reflection of cognitive interfacing
>*born out of cognitive *consequence
>of the *thing's innate intelligibility
>would mean *that they are phenomenally symbolic and contingent upon interpretation, i.e. the very *premise you're now attempting to discredit
>all attempts at defining life will bode symbolic registration, to *hope otherwise would be to exist outside of language and cognition
>by anything other than where your own standards would leave *you
>In *an *a-posteriori manner
>the presence of particulars does not mean *reducibility to their essentialization
>operating *according to causal interrelations
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>>24003
Oh sweet Jesus, I do not care about your bullshit.

Everything you say is a giant sand castle erected to defend the central conceit of "the gene" as an unknowable-yet-imminent foundation of life, and by extension all that exists. It is you who needs to uphold the almighty "gene" for petty and stupid reasons. If genetic material does not conform to an insane and contradictory outcome to possess a "master key" to justify this ruinous social order, then the theory must be thrown out until "history is corrected".

I'm trying to break out of the ruin of stupid thinking like yours. It is probably impossible, because anything contrary to the eugenic creed is automatically inadmissible in this Satanic world-system. But, we can speak among each other, for what little good that does.

I don't need to know much about this new theory you present because I've heard the hectoring and the excuses a million times before. It always exists to uphold the imperious claims made about "life", which are immediately used to justify invasion and pressing the nerve. A Satanic race cannot change.

To bring this back to the original topic, the point I'm making is that "life" does not entail the loaded definitions of such that are presented ad nauseum in the academy, always with a pseudo-religious fanaticism. I say "pseudo" because we know the only religion these people believe in is Eugenics, and every false theory that is erected is a lie for public consumption rather than anything anyone uses. Eugenics itself makes predictions about reality that must become true. If "genes aren't real", then there is no Christ as far as they care. It would be the end of everything for them.

My point is that life simply doesn't mean what the ideology requires it to mean, and speaking of living things is a very limited proposition. I would say based on that that viruses aren't living, because by definition the virus is inert material until "activated". At most it would be a highly abstracted "life-form", and at some point you have to ask if it is the virus that lives or some disease or outcome of the virus's activation that is granted its own force in our theories of knowledge. The root of the question comes back to the original genetic myth and beliefs in essentialism, rather than anything life does or any way we can speak of life-forms.

The human being isn't just "genes" or a carrier for genes. The development of its body, its bones, and the history of a human, has its own existence apart from "genetic purpose". The same is true of any life-form, even if the life-form exists primarily as an abstract notion of such, like speaking of a particular disease as a "life-form" perpetuating itself. Most diseases, though, aren't life-forms at all or entities with their own existence. Diseases inhabit hosts, and what a body does in response to a disease is primarily that body's response to a condition, usually to "process" the disease. Something like smallpox never leaves the body, and that's why it confers life-long immunity, but the ailment passes after some time. Perhaps the disease leaves a permanent mark on functioning, but the immunity arises because you're still carrying it. Not every disease does this, but the smallpox family does. When you look at the "holy genome" of a human body, you're going to find a lot of alien material that isn't "supposed" to be there.

>>22849
I tend to lean towards the position that whether viruses are 'alive' just kinda boils down to a linguistic argument most of the time, and whats more important is that viruses are irrevocably tied up with the processes of life. Its like asking if the foam on top of a wave is part of the wave or not.

I think if you can speak of final causes, you are necessarily dealing with some life-adjacent process. Final causes do not mean that something is alive (a hammer is not alive but has a final cause: to hammer), but must always be related to life (a hammer gets its final cause from a living being using it, otherwise it is just an indifferent piece of wood and steel)

Viruses are a bit the same. They clearly have final explanations: "the virus has this protein casing *because* it helps it invade its host, which allows it to survive" If we'd treat it as a ensemble of indifferent molecules, there would be no unity among what we were describing, and so nothing to have a final cause. The only explanations we could give are causal/physical explanations like: "the virus has this protein because DNA containing that sequence was expressed by the host ribosome and folded into this protein."


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Why not a thread for Permaculture/DIY/squatting? It's basically the only thing that most of us can do as neither revolution nor reform (fascism) seem to work, and yet it's too late to live normally.

Picrel is the apple, pomegranate, and (I think) cherry trees I have been working on. As well I managed to harvest a lot of sunflower seeds, corn, beans, pumpkin, and birdhouse gourd this year, despite the small plot.

My mom tore down one of my setups cuz "Muh HOA" "Muh Property value" but fortunately I met a couple at a local unitarian church who were willing to spare some land.

How has your year been?

>>25267 (epic!)
>apple
We've got two or three apple trees here, but they're too young to produce much.
Older varieties from around the area, and one which is just a ton of grafts.

>pomegranate
We had a red russian pomegranate but we dug it up and moved if further south to my grandparents.
It's a very sturdy plant, to have managed to have been moved or died back to the ground three or four times.
It seems like it's doing much better at its current location though, it was just maybe a zone or two too cold here.

We've also got a small plot of russian kale.
Another very resilient plant that tends to do a little better in the fall when there's no butterflies to eat them.
Have a theory that the coloration of scarlet kale would make it undesirable to the green worms, and so would really like to cross them.
Getting something like a red russian kale!
I've never been able to get the scarlet kale to grow however. sad.
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>>25277
>folk stories
Or… you know… mass line.

There are existing threads on /hobby/ for 2/3 of these
Permaculture >>>/hobby/33648
DIY >>>/hobby/489


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All good communists study math.

What are you studying right now? What is your favorite field of mathematics and why?

Personally, I really like the book "Linear Algebra Done Right" by Sheldon Axler. It is on Libgen if you are interested and I attached a pdf.
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>>25260
Oh, this is why the autistic narcissistic midwit retard decries philosophy, he's a STEMlord
LMFAO imagine making the statements you unironically make and not possessing the self-awareness to recognize how much of an ignorant stereotype you are
fucking kill yourself

>>25266
>autistic narcissistic midwit retard decries philosophy
i've read hegel dipshit and even had a conversation about his concept of being with one of my math professors. i'm the anon who briefly ran a textboard fyi

>>25268
And yet you still came up short and failed to parse any of it LMFAO, I don't give a flying fuck about you and your retarded math professor, stay in your lane and go back to being the autistic stemcel that you are. You are fundamentally incapable of PARSING Hegel; this is not a mere issue of 'reading' him.

>>25273
"I'm the anon who briefly ran a textboard"
as if this is at all relevant to anything other than your narcissism lmao

>le narcissism
no, i mentioned it because i'm not whoever you said was decrying philosophy. if you have something to discuss with them, go back to whatever thread or board you came from instead of shitting up an /edu/ thread ffs


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What the fuck are they? Every time a Marxist attempts to explain them it's like a Haskell programmer attempting to explain Monads.
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>>23090
anybody who first interacts with communism from a philosophical angle is automatically on pseud watch. so many morons think the world unfolds according to hegels logic and that marx merely added a materialist spin, a view that would put marx alongside religious midwits and philosophical charlatans

>>25262
What in God's name is this autistic take? Oh nvm it's glownonymous with the usual nonsense.

>>25264
The real tell that someone is a midwit, through and through, by the way, is aversion to philosophy.

Outmoded pseudoscience that was discredited as unscientific pig swill over a century ago, yet ideologues and poseurs continue to talk about dialectics in the year 2025 because they think being a leftist means accepting everything Marx and Engels ever wrote as irrefutable gospel truth.

>>25271
Ah yes let me just apply Marxism without dialectics
Let me just brush my bald head
Let me just run this marathon without my legs
etc.
Calling it 'pseudoscience', when it never existed as an object of scientific enquiry, but instead as a method, instantly exposes that you don't know what you're talking about.


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Not yet, because I'm still studying and all that stuff. What things does I need to avoid and what does I need to apply it on my classes, according to /edu/?

First post by the way…


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How do we arrive to that point? Most courses can be found completely online and free of costs, and they are far better explained than most universities. There must be a way to give equal to everyone.

most readily available "education " is meant to produce obedient consumers/slaves/soldiers , the minority who obtain enlightenment get it via nepotism or in rare cases incredible talent.

The only real way we can proliferate education is through the realization of the individual that manifests itself into collective consciousness against those who seek to suppress knowledge and skill.


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Going through historical records over what actually happened in most wars (both recent and ancient) is making me frustrated over how insultingly weak, passive aggressive, incompetent, and cowardly the vast majority of people and men in general are. Apparently something like 80%+ of all pre gunpowder age battles revolved entirely around intimidating the opponent and only attacking once the enemy was fleeing and had their backs exposed. If that shit wasn’t dishonourable enough, some armours including Persian helmets or Viking berserker armour were specifically designed to make Persians appear taller and Vikings more scrappy to deter opponents rather than anything rooted in battlefield function. The same could be said about most ornamented armour which only tells me that nearly every motherfucker in history have spent generations dicksucking themselves off with meaningless trophies and amateur displays of strength before running and freaking out the moment actual battles occur. In terms of actual fighting, if it wasn’t against already surrendering fleeing opponents, civilian casualties—especially against unarmed, weakened, and defensless civilians—were usually the most common targets of both conquerors and pre socialist revolutionaries effectively rendering any actual fights between warriors as almost nonexistent in preindustrial warfare.

If that cowardly and weak shit isn’t dishonourable enough, just look at the shit going on after the introduction of gunpowder.

Mass casualties among soldiers due to exposure to disease, self inflicted psychological trauma, and tripping related accidents from the napoleonic era to the world wars; reliance on the threat (not the use) of WMDs (of course against defensless civilians because who would approach their opponents up close) to win wars; military leaders somehow getting even weaker and more disconnected from their soldiers as military sophistication improved; the list of things you can make fun of just keep going on.

Vietnam against France was probably the only time where things improved a bit with how easy it was to respect soldiers. It was by this point where stress inoculation as a concept was introduced to military training which meant you had soldiers fighting the way you’d initially imagine against armed and readied opponents instead of picking fights with literal children and adults on the brink of starvation. Does this mean that all wars afterwards suddenly became way more honorablePost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>humans are
bruh you're one of them
>irritatingly weak
and you're easily irritated, which is a form of weakness, overcome it, "human"

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>>24987
>The same could be said about most ornamented armour which only tells me that nearly every motherfucker in history have spent generations dicksucking themselves off with meaningless trophies and amateur displays of strength
to think that we could have decorated ourselves to be brighter, prettier and more aesthetically pleasing like picrel instead of the unnatural abomination you describe…

People tend to have a very romanticized view of war and imperialism and history, they picture two armies fighting on the battlefield with buglers and flags and all the rest of it. The reality is more like bands of marauders descending on towns and village and slaughtering defenseless civilians, burning their homes, stealing everything they own, violating their women, shooting their children and livestock for fun, etc.

Not just humans, all mammals fight this way. Ever seen two cats go at it? First they scream at each other and try to intimidate, and usually attack when one of them starts to run away.

>>24987
>Humans have a fear of death, and are by and large empathetic enough to not want to inflict it on others
>these cowards have not even used their WMD
>This is a bad thing somehow


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ITT post information about the history and anthropology of the New World. A lot of new anthropological work has been done in this field in recent decades that has not yet entered public consciousness.
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>>25211
wrong.
current genetic evidence shows all native groups to be descended from ancestral native americans arriving between 20-14kya after which the population branched into ancestral northern native americans that populate canada and the northern united states and ancestral southern native americans that populated the rest of north america and south america.
two subsequent waves brough na-dene and then eskaleut peoples to north america but these peoples themselves just like remaining paleo-siberians such as the chuckchi descend from the same mixing of ane and ancient east asian that gave rise to the initial ancestral native american population.

New ArchaeoEd video. The topic is the Ancestral Pueblo.

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>>25240

New Ancient Americas video discussing the Eastern Agriculture Complex ie that time the ancestors of Mississippians developed agriculture independently of Mesoamerica and the Andes but later most of these agricultural crops were replaced by Mesoamerican imports, including the king of crops, maize.

>>25250
I think it's interesting to see how a region of the world could develop agriculture but not "progress" into high civilization like Mesoamerica or the Andes.
Could the crops have something to do with it? Were they not as efficient or nutritious as stuff like maize, amaranth, quinoa or potatoes?
The intensification of maize agriculture into the eastern woodlands seems to coincide with the development of Mississippian civilization. Could they have been on their way to develop as much as Mesoamerica and the Andes when Europeans came? That would've been pretty interesting since the area is quite large and has vert navigable rivers. Would there have been eventual direct contact with Mesoamerica? So many lost possibilities.


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