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>>46744
replace central character

>>47693
*has

>>47688
>>47692
Characters are a really personal thing, you kind of have to just read more and make up what you think would be cool and useful for the story. I generally think the characters don't stand apart from the plot and themes, they all are one and you can't separate them.

Read more books though and you will learn how to write.

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>>47688
You've done a typical mistake.
Focus on the character and story first and then the worldbuilding.
A good story can still be good despite bad worldbuilding
a bad story can never be good no matter how good the worldbuilding is.

I noticed something recently when thinking about Fiction in general. I think frustrating your audience and leaving them with a sense of yearning is a big part of creating good and memorable fiction. You don't actually want to satisfy them. You want to interest them and make them feel emotions, but ultimately leave them unsatisfied and asking a lot of questions and arguing with each other over details.

When I was a kid, the most memorable works of fiction seemed to often abide by principles like

>Show, don't tell.
>Focus on moving the plot forwards and developing the arcs of the central characters, rather than doing perfectly realistic, consistent, accurate worldbuilding.
>Don't be afraid to leave some details unexplained so the audience can fill in the blanks with their own imagination

Abiding by these principles

As a young adult when I first tried and failed to write my own stuff, I failed to abide by these principles because I craved to make things that were "realistic" and "materialist" and "consistent" and had "good worldbuilding."

I wanted Fiction to describe the real world, like nonfiction, while still being entertaining. While some things can definitely pull that off, it is way less popular.

I failed to understand that leaving some questions unanswered and failing to satisfy the audience fully is actually what allows something to become memorable and highly discussed long after it should have faded into the background.
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>>47760
>doubling down on the insanity
Millennial imageboard dwellers are so fucking pathetic, lmao.

>>47761
Memento mori, it's gonna happen to us too.

>>47761
you're just a like eat mediaslop and not do tax maxing

>>47747
>NOT that the wrong ships got made canon
The only ship that got truly made canon was wrong because it not only got done like shit, but makes no thematic sense and writing it in actively damaged the writing. Take it out and a third of the issues with Volumes 6-9 disappear, that's how bad it is.
>the dialogue is awkward and stiff
Not really? Some of the 'motivational' moments don't land, but most of the dialogue isn't terrible.
>looks/sounds awful in ways
…You didn't watch any of the later Volumes did you? I LOATHE Volume 7 and 8 and definitely have criticisms of fight choreography and nerfing, but the animation has only improved over the years (as have sound effects) and although I have a soft-spot for Poser (and prefer the poser designs) the work with Maya has objectively improved. Most of the music is still up to par too, it's pretty difficult to live up to the impact the original OST did.
>full of clichés
That doesn't mean anything; like tropes, everything has cliches, there are cliches for things that go against 'common' cliches at this point.
>characters are one-note
You clearly haven't watched the majority of the show. For the first three Volumes, most of the main cast was developed and the secondary/tertiary characters like Team CFVY were one-note, but later on secondary characters (like the Ace Ops) were more fleshed out. The problem is A) how they were fleshed out And B) characters like Ren, Nora, Yang, Blake and even Weiss, being degraded, or like Oscar being pointless.
>people's favorite characters got "slandered"
Well to be fair, it's often for a good reason, character assassination by the writers basically fucks over story consistency. the >>>/anime/8783 RT thread has a lot about that regarding people like Adam basically made from an extremist revolutionary into this pathetic incel, or how Blake went from a person with a 'dark past' she wants to make up for her mistakes (and still makes new ones), to a literal nepo-baby island princess that LARPed as a Revolutionary and then got cold feet. Or Yang going from a brash brawler with a hidden bit of intelligence aPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>47731
>>47735
Also if the characters in the comics are "paper thin" what the fuck does that make the slopfest that is the TV show? It is carried entirely by the performance of most of the actors (honestly just two, you know which ones) and that's it, it falls apart immediately after the first season with that especially strong episode 1.

This is 100% the opinion of a 4chan midwit. All the themes, parallels between characters, foreshadowing (if someone brings up "asspulls" you just know you're talking to a braindead person), exposition, the escalation with each supe of the week leading to that climax, etc – all of this is completely ignored just to complain le "character development" or whatever. CinemaSins retardation but applied to comic books, somehow.

>>47731
s1 and 2 were really good but then it just gets really meandery and aimless and the last season was dogshit and the ending completely unearned and out of nowhere

funnily its the inverse of the comic, where the pacing is shit to start with bcs its too bogged down in gross-out evil supes stuff instead of the plot proper but where the second half is great with a strong ending

i read the comic long ago and loved it but sure theres plenty about it that sucks or can be offputting to others, its some of Ennis' worst stuff on the whole, but it has plenty of well written moments and character beats and is highly important for a lot of the good bits of the show too despite people acting like the first seasons are good in spite of the comics and not because of them

>>47737
>its some of Ennis' worst stuff on the whole

I don't think that's true.

>>47736
a lot of people genuinely believe on some level that "character development" in stories is reflective of actual growth within people as opposed to shifts in arrangements of discourse and a desire to preserve grand narratives

Season 5 of The Shield mogs all seasons of The Wire

>>47535
Call them pointy eared snobs unable to make some good swords.

>>47536
I think that argument is cutting it a bit SHORT, sir dwarf

>>47386
Honestly, even some Brando Sando fans feel like his writing has gone downhill.

>>47536
Thats a LOTR quote, so they make the best swords.

Critical support for Kronos and Luke. The West must fall!!

>red tie
>tucked into pants
actual psycho shit

>>47594
Nothing, wearing clothes is reactionary

>>47532
AI people are intent on devaluing art/artistry while simultaneously coveting the (imagined) clout/cultural respect that they believe comes from being an artist. It is pretty odd.

wool/fibers from animals have a lot of strange and useful properties and its odd synthetics have never tried to replicate them

this recipe is lost u can't make guys like this with modern ingredients and if you try they come out looking like babytron

>>45316 (me)
I also feel like the show plays it too safe for my liking, like being afraid of killing off major characters or traumatizing comic relief characters like Ty Lee, and the conflicts resolve too quickly sometimes. This show has many trappings of other kids shows, I don't understand why it's considered the greatest show ever. Like, Sonic Forces is mocked for constantly reminding you about the power of friendship but aren't ATLA's characters just outright stating the moral of the episode just as blunt and unsubtle? I dunno, maybe I'm not understanding something. It's like after I've watched Gurren Lagann. Everyone kept saying it is the greatest show ever but I was just like: "Eh."

>>45316
Tbh a lot of adults badly need the moral of the story to be bluntly stated these days.

Zuko backsliding is fair IMO. He'd been away from his family a long time and with the possibility of getting back in his father's good graces it's somewhat understandable he'd go that direction. The conflict is also foreshadowed earlier in scenes with Iroh (vid related) so the idea that they changed this to deal with Mako's death doesn't seem likely.

>>45336
>I also feel like the show plays it too safe for my liking
That's a studio decision for the most part. Which doesn't change the end product but it's less "playing it safe" and more working within certain limits. Jet's death in particular screams that the studio wouldn't let them be more explicit.
>This show has many trappings of other kids shows, I don't understand why it's considered the greatest show ever.
That's because of other things in the show, like the character arcs and world building, not because it lacks characteristically kid-friendly elements. Good show isn't synonymous with "not for kids."

>>45337
>Tbh a lot of adults badly need the moral of the story to be bluntly stated these days.
Well, maybe these adults need to
grow up.
>with the possibility of getting back in his father's good graces
It would have been nice and dandy if he didn't collaborate in imprisoning his own uncle whom he supposedly loves and then actively berate him while visiting him in prison. It's clear they either needed an excuse for Iroh to be silent as they search for a new actor or for Zuko to return to the fire nation.
>Good show isn't synonymous with "not for kids."
Neither is it synonymous with "for kids." The typical cliches and limitations of kids' shows may negatively affect the plot too. When it comes to adult animation at least it doesn't have imposed limits (even though often the kinds of shows which get greenlit in America are crass comedies). And I'm not even talking about web animation 'cause there the sky's the limit, you can literally draw whatever tf you want. As you watch more and more shonen however you kinda start understanding the complaints of the seinen crowd, even though enjoyable shonen do exist despite all the cliches and pandering inherent to the demographic.

Iroh's 2nd voice actor has weighed in on the situation with the franchise
https://x.com/GregBaldwinIroh/status/2063265103315890686

>>45340
>Well, maybe these adults need to
yeah, fuck Greek theater

On the Hidwehian mythology:
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/zine/lithp.html
I notice that God is signified as Saklas (סכלא), which is the second name of the Demiurge in the Apocryphon of John (200 CE); the three names being: (i) Yaldabaoth, (ii) Saklas and (iii) Samael.
http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/apocjn-davies.html
Now, "Yaldabaoth" can translate as "Child of Chaos", denoting the firstborn of creation, for as we read in Hesiod's Theogony (700 BCE), all things spawn from Chaos, with the first set of beings (the Protogenoi, which are followed by the Titans, the gods, then men). The Protogenoi are as follows: (i) Gaia, including Tartarus, or Hell, (ii) Eros, who is both Protogenoi and god, (iii) Erebus, or Darkness, (iv) Nyx, or Night. Now, it is Night and Darkness which bear the (i) Aether and (ii) Day, while Gaia is said to bear Uranus, or Heaven itself. So, Light comes from Darkness in this mythology, and Love (or Life) is within that primordial oblivion. Within the Sumerian cosmogony, Chaos is named Tiamat:
<When in the height heaven was not named, And the earth beneath did not yet bear a name, And the primeval Apsu, who begat them, And chaos, Tiam(a)t, the mother of them both…
https://sacred-texts.com/ane/enuma.htm
The Enūma Eliš (1200 BCE) thus resonates, that the mother of Heaven and Earth is Tiamat ("sea"), which mirrors what Homer writes in the Iliad (14.242):
<Oceanus, from whom they all [the gods] are sprung
https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=urn:cts:greekLit:tlg0012.tlg001.perseus-eng1:14.242-14.269
This is also the prevailing interpretation of Plato:
<Epicharmus, the prince of Comedy, and Homer of Tragedy; when the latter sings of 'Ocean whence sprang the gods, and mother Tethys,' does he not mean that all things are the offspring, of flux and motion?
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Following from the primary Hidwehian mythology, we may read this:
>We follow Eopya, the hidden goddess pushing not only the stirring of creative evolution to fold unto itself, but the mixing of the sanguine lakes mnemosyne and lethe.
https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/hidwehabout.html
Now, the noun "Eopya" is not present in English, yet it may be rendered in Greek as "ἔοργα", which a verb, can apparently be understood as sacrifice, according to the McClintock and Strong Biblical Cyclopedia (1880):
<Orgia Engl. ORGIES (probably from Gr. ἔρδω, in the perfect ἔοργα, to sacrifice), or MYSTERIES
https://www.biblicalcyclopedia.com/O/orgia.html
In a Biblical concordance however, we find another verb, "ἔργον" which means "to work", or to labour, and so this can fit the meaning of the Goddess. In the academic text "The perfect in Homeric Greek" (2025), we find that the term "ἔοργα" is given from the root "ἔρδω" which denotes the act of work or performance. So then, the hidden goddess "Eopya" can be called "ἔοργα" (ἔρδω). Her task of mixing mnemosyne with lethe is also interesting, since both are famous lakes of memory and forgetfulness in the underworld, and we see a shared myth in the Norse tales, such as in the Prose Edda:
<But under that root which turns toward the Rime-Giants is Mímir's Well, wherein wisdom and understanding are stored; and he is called Mímir, who keeps the well. He is full of ancient lore, since he drinks of the well from the Gjallar-Horn. Thither came Allfather and craved one drink of the well; but he got it not until he had laid his eye in pledge.
https://sacred-texts.com/neu/pre/pre04.htm
Here, Mimir guards the well of wisdom and drinks from it, which is so valuable, that Wotan sacrifices an eye for it. This can then be seen as the spring of mnemosyne (Mímisbrunnr). We also see a river in the Bible:
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ufo sightings are all psyops and fake
crowley was a fascist pedo loser who should be mostly discarded
most of western occultism (wicca, hermeticism, theosophy, most gnostic sects) is lame rightoid nerd shit
kabbalah sounds intresting in theory but in practice its always some dumb cringe zionist and sometimes pedo shit
rosicrucianism is a mixed bag from what i know but red shambala is tuff tho
"magick" is a cringe ass larp word that makes my ears bleed everytime i hear it
most of the occult in the west and other placecs is mostly just psyops and fronts
satanism is just lame edgy shitlib contrarianism
this isn't ufo so jsut ignore this but the satanic panic was mostly real in that there were fucked up shit going on in some of those daycares and etc
if you disegree with anything i said please explain why

>>47745
dw bro i have no intrest in whatever mk ultra foolery you got going on lmao

Can’t wait for season two

idk find something from eastern bloc or china (china isn't really socialist but at least some of them still pretend to be)

teletubbies

code geass has some revolutionary anti colonialist themes
rebel thief who stole the people, korean drama about a robin hood like figure
boondocks is super based

do more drugs

>>47668
i'm doing them right now!!

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