I fucking hate this band. They are part of the handful of individuals that were responsible for one of the most detrimental turns in hardcore punk, creating a straight line towards its co-optation and quite nearly its death. And for what? Emo? The most shallow fucking music I've ever heard. Basically pop songs about purely subjective teeny chart-friendly topics like "love" and "hurt" but in a fake"""punk""" aesthetic format. Why
would you listen to this after getting interested in punk? Emotional hardcore / post-hardcore / emo is punk revisionism, driving forces being capital forces of sellout Labels and tacit support of the state / venues for their pacified behavior (and it started and spread from Washington fucking D.C.).