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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general

A general thread for all China related discussion.
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Bob Avakian

Memes aside, has anybody read this? I'm curious to know whether there is anything actually worthwhile in it before I read it. From what I know about Bob Avakian and the revcoms, they seem to have some decent ideas, but not exactly a coherent platform, and they don't really seem to do much other than recruit new members. I've met a few of their members and they were all really nice people, but the whole party seems to be just a cult centered around BA (who has probably profited a lot from it over the years), and they will probably fall apart once the guy dies.
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How can a state be a communist one if the mode of production is the capitalist one?
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Why did 90% of communist parties collapse in 1990-2000? Because financial, material and KGB support vanished. Now we have China supporting Maoist rebels in Nepal (successful revolution), in Philippines and in India and they are gaining more and more support from CPC.

What happens when China shifts its focus from regional supremacy to global supremacy? China is still keeping low profile because Sun Tzu strategy but in the long run they will go full pearl harbor when the time comes and there needs to be 5th column organizations in the west to sabotage and provide intel to our East-Asian comrades. Proles are more useful in sabotaging and causing chaos while educated members should leak useful information and technology.
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/ir/ - Infrared General

Channel link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl63ZOm_bepvwoKjw24rogA
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What is your thought on Stupidpol?

It seems like there is some animosity between leftypol and stupidpol
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Thread on one of the most unstable parts of the world.
Hope local anons will contribute.


-Ansarullah's Marib offensive in Yemen is going on but getting progressively slower and slower: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1k_5mC2oHM9Lj4I5irFA0pkXbqKQ&ll=15.368048501226081%2C45.226202631639545&z=12

-Lebanon's collapse accelerating, sparking protests
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But seriously, I just want to get this aside. And sorry if this has been discussed many of times (feel free to also link me to another board where this has been discussed). But what is really the appeal of National Bolshevism? It just seems very incoherent to me and just a hodgepodge of right wing and left wing ideas that is ultimately anti-liberal. If you want to have an effect on the world, shouldn't you have a more coherent ideology? Due to its incoherence it just seems more like a social club to me. Or like an aimless petty bourg movement. Does any Nazbol have a more or less unified theory on how human society develops (like Marxism)?
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/USApol/ United States Politics


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Itt. The most extreme radical beliefs you hold that are controversial even in leftist spaces

>prison is a horrible deterrent to crime and should be abolished completely. Even if it were effective, the concept of holding humans in cages is disturbing
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Archives of previous thread
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Webm thread?

Webm thread
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Welp edition
Live Updates: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Global Tracker: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
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Soviet Wars 1917-1923(31)

A million sides, constant changes of allies, a bunch of events - sort of the First World War in the South, in the Crimea and in the Urals, the latest fleet operations against the Germans and the Entente in the Baltic, literally Syria in the Ukraine, the Red Army attacking British tanks with bayonets near Arkhangelsk, the Wild West with Basmachi in Central Asia, Latin American partisanship in Siberia, White Genghis Khan is plotting something, White Czechs are fleeing from the Red Czechs with tsarist gold, finally the fight against anti-Soviet uprisings and simply hellish gang violence.

Red, White, Green, Black, Basmachi
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Lefty Music Thread

Godspeed You! You Black Emperor is getting dangerously based. What are some other good contemporary leftist musicians?
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What do you guys think of Gramsci? What's important of his to read?
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/QTDDTOT/ – Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread

Last thread: >>983378

Why did the Soviet Union annex Moldova but not Romania, eventually at least? Might as well have gone all out and annexed all Romanian-speaking lands.
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National Tragedies

What constitutes a national tragedy? Obviously one aspect to a national tragedy is that a wide percentage of the population is affected. Another aspect would be the longitude of the tragedy: the longer people have to suffer it the more severe, unbearable it becomes. In this sense the Holocaust for Jews and Gypsies, WW2 for Russians, or the century of humiliation for the Chinese are obvious "national tragedies" (or "ethnic tragedies" in the case of Jews & gypsies, but you get the point).

So this is the thing. I don't think that in any meaningful sense 9/11 could be called a national tragedy for Americans, not to mention "THE" National Tragedy, as some try to portray it. Merely 0.001% of the population were killed in the incident and the event ended in a few hours. For comparison: not a single family in Russia was left unaffected by WW2 in one horrible way or another, and it went on for years.

Another thing is that 9/11 was retribution for the shit the USA has been doing for decades in the Middle East. For me it seems like if the Roman Empire tried to make into a national tragedy of sorts the Spartacus uprising, like, nigga, just stop having slaves and shit like that won't happen to you, like stop bombing, dominating, couping, etc. the rest of the world and shit like 9/11 won't happen to you. Stop hitting yourself.

In a very real sense what actually made 9/11 a national tragedy to Americans is that it was a moment when reality first crept in to millions of burgers. For the first time they got a taste of what they have been doing for years on a daily basis to other people in the world. So yes, the real "national tragedy" of burgers is coping with reality, and it's still ongoing.

See the media campaign surrounding 9/11. It went on for years, even in non-american countries. Of course it had to be used to justify attacking Afghanistan and Iraq. In this sense what instilled this idea that 9/11 was a national tragedy was constant media campaign used for political purposes.

Take a look at how the Russians or Chinese dealt with their national heroes who helped them end their national tragedy. They are glorified to this day, they get elderly care, etc. Now take a look at the supposed national tragedy of the burgers and their supposed heroes the 'first responders' – like dozens had to die because of lung damage and a lack of access to healthcare.

Take a look at the rampant conspiracy theories surrounding 9/11. In a very real sense people can't fucking cope with reality so they strive to reintegrate it into their comfortable fantasy world where if anything bad happens to "us" it could be only done "by us" and not these ay-rabs.

And it is true, the real national tragedy of American people is what they are doing to themselves. How they let die their supposed heroes, first responders and veterans alike, how they have currently half a million COVID-19 deaths, how every year tens of thousands die due to not having healthcare. But dare to touch on the sacred cow of "muh nerner leven" and you are cancelled.

Here, a simplified representation/TL;DR for the reading-impaired:
9/11 - 3,000 deaths ←—- sacred cow "national tragedy"
Covid - 500,000 deaths ←—- "meh"
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Hello everybody.
It seems a coup is being carried out in Myanmar, but i can't find the politics behind it.
Here a tweet explaining the events:

Please post sources (better if socialist leaning ofc) and thoughts about it.
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/leftybritpol/ - Abolish The Welsh Assembly Edition

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OC Thread 8.0

Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.

OC Thread 4.0 >>8622
OC Thread 5.0 >>419177
OC Thread 7.0 >>956315
Unfortunately OC thread 6.0 was lost when we were raided by the chinless horde back in October

This is the place where you can find all leftypol memes n' shit
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New Atheists & Puritans

So previously I stumble this reddit thread about, "Why is almost everything haram in Islam?".

Then it's reminds me:
I'll tell you what, both new atheists & religious nuts have similar characteristics. Most of their debates such as darwinism vs creationism, etc etc, most of it pointless & sectarian thing to do. It's not grasp the real circumstances nor the roots of the problem itself.

Like if you still have & believe in religion, then you shouldn't become a lefty. A lefty must an atheist, if not then you're not part of us, & that's revisionism. State atheism is a must, if not then you're revisionist.

Haram. Everything's haram. Western music is haram, western movies are haram, western culture are haram, drawing is haram, having a dog is haram, have a girlfriend is haram, seeing your opposite gender is haram, etc etc.

Forbidden, everything's forbidden in Christianity, the priests & the nuns are forbidden to marriage, women should keep their chastity, sluts should be slaughter, Jerusalem is only for the Christians, etc etc.

Same like Judaism or others religions besides Abrahamic religions. Why? Why no fun allowed? Why purity balls & prudism? Why living as a monk are so proud? Then again why these 2010-2012 tier new atheists vs puritans debates still even existing? Don't they have something better to do than just debating something pointless? Let's discuss this whether you're an atheist or religious person, I don't care as long as you're a leftist.
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Who do we know the money to exactly?

i am pretty sure i know, but i want your guys take on this
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Dimitris Koufodinas Hunger Strike.

Let us have a thread on the current hunger strike of Dimitris Koufodinas as it is clearly becoming a happening.

Today in athens was second day of protests, The Morning Star are reporting 10's of thousands.
>TENS of thousands took to the streets of the Greek capital Athens on Tuesday night in solidarity with hunger striker Dimitris Koufontinas, who is believed to be close to death after 55 days without food.

>The prisoner from the revolutionary organisation 17 November, which was banned and disbanded in 2002 as a terrorist group by the Greek authorities, has also gone without water since February 22.

>He is now being treated in the intensive care unit at the Lamia General Hospital, where his condition is said to have deteriorated.
>Mr Koufontinas, who was given 11 life sentences plus 25 years in prison for his participation in a total of 11 murders, explosions and robberies, has been held at the Domokos agricultural prison near Lamia.

this is not a thread to tell us how terrible you think 17N were.
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So, what's the fifth song that you've got, /leftypol/?
Common, I wanna see if someone is more based than me.
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Cytube thread


Bump this thread if you're planning on watching a movie, theory, music, memes or whatever. You can join any stream and chat without having to make an account, and no email needed if you do want to make an account.
Here's a list of channels, if you want to make a room and have it added to the list, make a post about it ITT.





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Internet Trash General – /ITG/

Containment thread for the lowest forms of internet discussion:
💩 Social Media Screenshots
📞 E-celeb Gossip
🕸️ Internet Happenings
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New Multitude magazine

Hi, Leftypol!

I'm the editor of New Multitude, an online magazine for left writers across the globe.

We are non sectarian and so you may not agree with everything we publish, but we are committed to bringing forward new voices. In the past year we have published articles from Uk, Hungary, Sudan, Myanmar, Brazil, Singapore and we are always looking for more! Either if it's a guide to a country's political scene/potential or on the ground reporting or an application of theory..we need you!

[email protected]
https://www.facebook.com/newmultitude/ (new normiebook page!)
https://www.patreon.com/newmultitude (NM has no sponsors or corporate backing, please consider a small solidarity donation if you can afford it and appreciate the content. If not, no problem, nothing is paywalled|)

BRAND NEW ARTICLE on the Myanmar Coup. Please read and share if you want to understand the political economy of the coup. We have got some positive reviews of this so far and it even got referenced in a Chuancn.org article.

>Perhaps the idea of the ‘bloc’ was always flawed at one level, given that as long as the Tatmadaw remain an autonomous militia unaccountable to anyone but themselves, an elite partnership is an ontological impossibility. Nevertheless, the institutional oppositions of the power elite are conducted on a platform built on a broad consensus (or doxa) of a political economy based on extractive capitalism and a centralized Bamar-State.


(on a side note, if anyone would like to show solidarity with Myanmar activists by buying them a VPN, please contact me)

NEW ORIGINAL TRANSLATION from Brazilian Communist Party writer André Brandão.

>Reproducing postmodern cultural logic, many people have resorted to the revolutionary theory of the proletariat as an individual response to the impacts of the contemporary identity crisis. It is in this sense that several times Marxism-Leninism has erroneously appeared to the youth: simply as an identity, a kind of new social tribe to participate in. It is a mercantile absorption of the theoretical construction that aims to overcome the capitalist mode of production.

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Bootstraps silly

So I'm a baby leftist, 19 years old. Living as NEET (unemployed, no experience/still green, haven't go to college but interested in computers & programming).

I don't have laptop nor computer, but I have a smartphone. Also I don't really have internet connection (wifi) since I'm a NEET (I using my sister/my mother internet connection via tethering).

My sister is a high school student (in public school) & my mother is a elementary school teacher (in private school). My father is a fisherman. And I tired hearing bullshit from my parent.

Ever heard about JFK saying, "don't ask your country contribution, but ask what's your contribution". It's like an excuse to hiding government's fault for preserving neolib system.

Why it's sound like we have to give our contributions to the country that ain't even give it's contribution to us?

The people have contributed so much for the state & corporate. I know there's something like internal factor & external factor that causing us unable to access normal life (if it's consider as normal). Even something like lifehacks still need necessary equipments & tools.

It's not always our fault if we've born poor. We're not so lucky like those rich kids & their families. So I asking your advices & suggestions. What must I do, comrades?
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So labor conditions have improved a lot since the 19th century, why can't they keep on improving? People used to work 12hr days, now they work 8hr days. Why do we need socialism is everyone is comfortable working 5hr days, is paid enough to support themselves, and there is welfare for those who can't work.
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Thoughts on the PRO Act?

There is a labor bill in US Congress right now known as the Protecting the Right to Organize Act of 2019 (PRO Act). If passed, it could potentially be the most sweeping labor reform bill since the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947, and the most pro-union labor reform bill since the National Labor Relations Act of 1935. Here's some changes it could make:
-Anti-union meetings can no longer be required by employers
-Ends "right to work" laws
-Lifts ban on secondary strikes
-Bans proactive lockouts
-Requires transparency from employers - Labor rights must be posted, and anti-union consultants must be disclosed
-Prevents misclassification of workers, i.e. no more independent contractors
-Meaningful penalties for employers for labor law violations
-No permanent replacement of workers on strike
-Prohibition on solidarity action with other workers will be removed

So far this bill has passed the House of Representatives, with 224 (218 Democrats, 5 Republicans, 1 Other) voting yes and 194 (7 Democrats, 186 Republicans, 1 Other) voting no. Passing this bill in the Senate would likely be more difficult though, as it is split 50-50 between Democrats and Republicans, with the the Democratic vice-president potentially casting a tie-breaking vote. Nevertheless, the PRO Act seems to be the best shot at sweeping labor reform in the US in decades. Perhaps it can put an end to the decades-long decline unions have been experiencing in the US, and maybe even enable general strikes once again (the US hasn't had a general strike since 1946). Imagine how much more effective social movements could be if they had the general strike at their disposal.

What are your thoughts?

Relevant links:
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What the FUCK is going on in Xinjiang?

I've heard wildly differing reports on what's going on there, ranging from China committing literal genocide against Uighurs, to China just re-educating terrorists, to nothing out of the ordinary going on there at all, or even that China is treating Uighurs better than Han people. This seems to be a highly polarizing issue, with liberals, conservatives, demsocs, and libsocs saying that China is eating Uighur babies for breakfast, and tankies saying the China is doing nothing wrong and that anything bad they allegedly do is just a CIA/Adrian Zenz fabrication.
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News 3/3/21

Reports: Myanmar security forces kill at least 33 protesters
Myanmar security forces dramatically escalated their crackdown on protests against last month’s coup, killing at least 33 protesters Wednesday in several cities, according to accounts on social media and local news reports compiled by a data analyst.

Iraq military base used by U.S. hit by rockets year after similar attack brought U.S. and Iran close to war
The Iraqi military released a statement later saying the attack did not cause significant losses and that security forces had found the launch pad used for the missiles. An Iraqi official said it was found in the al-Baghdadi area of Anbar, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not permitted to brief media.

Macron admits France tortured and murdered Algerian freedom fighter
French President Emmanuel Macron has admitted that France's army “tortured and murdered” Algerian nationalist Ali Boumendjel, whose death was previously framed as a suicide during the country's war of independence.“Ali Boumendjel did not commit suicide. He was tortured and then murdered,” the president told the former freedom fighter’s grandchildren in a meeting on Tuesday.

Israeli Defense System Shot Down Russian Missile in Karabakh War – Reports
Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan said in response that an overwhelming majority of Iskanders had misfired, comments that led to a tense row with top generals who demanded his resignation. Russian officials also took umbrage with Pashinyan’s comments, leading him to walk back the remarks Monday and attributing them to misinformation.

Chile: Court Releases Officer Who Pushed Teenager From Bridge
teleSUR's correspondent in Chile, Paola Dragnic, explained that "the court's decision dramatically contrasts with several protestors that currently are being kept in preventive prison for more than a year without evidence of the charges they are accused of."

Bolivian president defends health and education for his people
Bolivian President Luis Arce on Tuesday emphasized his commitment to the right to education and health of his people. The president highlighted the recent beginning of mass and free Covid-19 vaccination in the country and, based on this, announced that face-to-face classes will return to improve the Bolivians' education.

Moscow Metro to Implement 'FacePay' Fare Payment System
To use the FacePay system, passengers must have a Russian bank account that has their biometric data on file, according to Kichigin. After passengers approach one of the cameras installed at the turnstiles or ticket booths, the fare is automatically debited from their account and the turnstiles will open.

Chinese court says homosexuality can be deemed MENTAL DISORDER after former student brings case over textbook definition
The inclusion of homosexuality as a psychological disorder in a popular university textbook constitutes “not factual error but a divergent academic view,” the Suqian Intermediate People’s Court ruled last week. Located in the eastern province of Jiangsu, the court upheld a previous ruling handed down by the Suyu District People’s Court last year.

UK hikes corporation tax to 25% as pandemic support hits £407 billion
British Finance Minister Rishi Sunak announced Wednesday that U.K. corporation tax will increase to 25% in April 2023 as the government looks to restore public finances in the aftermath of the Covid-19 pandemic. In his Budget statement Wednesday, Sunak said the changes would take effect after the Office for Budget Responsibility, a public body that provides independent forecasts, expects the economy to have returned to its pre-Covid level.

Private-hire drivers strike to remember murdered colleague
As the Morning Star went to press, members of the Independent Workers’ Union (IWGB) were due to switch off their apps for two hours and light candles in memory of Gabriel Bringye, who was stabbed while working for the operator Bolt in north London on February 17.

German intelligence agency to spy on far-right AfD party
The Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz (BfV) agency is now able by law to monitor the phones of AfD members and spy on its activities as a suspected extreme rightwing organisation, following a decision that the party argues could affect its chances in the autumn federal elections. It is currently the largest opposition party in parliament.

Far-right anti-migrant group ‘Generation Identitaire’ outlawed in France
In a tweet on Wednesday, Interior Minister Gerald Darmanin confirmed that Generation Identitaire had been outlawed following a cabinet meeting with the French president. Darmanin said the group “incites discrimination, hatred and violence” and had no place in France.
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/leftydeutschpol/ - Deutschland General

Letzter Pfaden wurde dank der /Pol/acken vom Brett gepusht. Deshalb ein neues Deutschland General.
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/crisis/ General

💰️DOW/Market Watch Thread💰️
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.
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/dprk/ -- DPR Korea General

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.
Archive of first ~500 posts on original thread:
Subsequent archives:
Related archives:
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Hello guys, its me once again with another thread for a (potential) happening.
Without further ado, here's the deal (cit): the VASTLY unpopular neoliberal president and Us puppet Jovenel Moise just proclaimed that he still has one year of rule left forcing the Constitution to allow him to do it.
This has already been met with resistance by the people (which btw are struggling with mass protest since late 2019 tbf) and both unions and various other subjects said they are determined to go all the way to remove him if necessary.

That said I say this is still something with the potential to happen cause there's huge uncertainty around what will effectively happen, but i'm creating this thread to follow the events around it together.

Good sources to follow:
HaitiInfoProj: https://twitter.com/HaitiInfoProj
Madan Boukman: https://twitter.com/madanboukman

Hoping this thread stays active
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News 3/2/21

Food Prices Are Soaring Faster Than Inflation and Incomes
Emerging markets are feeling the pain of a blistering surge in raw material costs, as commodities from oil to copper and grains are driven higher by expectations for a “roaring 20s” post-pandemic economic recovery as well as ultra-loose monetary policies.

Ecuador's Leftist Candidate Ratified as First Round Winner
After reviewing over 1.4 million votes, Ecuador's National Electoral Council (CNE) ratified that the Union For Hope (UNES) Candidate Andres Arauz came in first place in the first round of the presidential election held on February 8. The recount of the tallies presenting some inconsistency awarded an additional 403,484 votes to this leftist economist, who was Knowledge Minister during President Rafael Correa's administration (2007-2017)

==Former leader of the Soviet Union Mikhail Gorbachev turns 90
Professor Sheila Fitzpatrick, The University of Sydney historian of modern Russia, joins Michael to discuss the life and legacy of Russian & former Soviet politician Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachev, who was born 90 years ago today on 2 March 1931.

House braces for Nepal Communist Party factional infighting
Three years ago, the Nepal Communist Party ruled the roost, enjoying nearly a two-thirds majority in Parliament. When the Parliament meeting convenes after a tumultuous period of eight months on March 7, half of it will be the “ruling” party and the other half the “opposition”.

Japan opposition parties slam gov't over press official's resignation, call her 'victim'
Akira Koike, the second-in-command of the Japanese Communist Party, also pressured Prime Minister Suga, telling reporters on March 1, "If the government was to act like the issues at hand have been resolved by handing down punitive measures, they will develop into questions over the prime minister's accountability."

Brexiters buy KGB artefacts for ‘museum of communist terror’
While a Soviet-era oil painting of Vladimir Lenin, which sold for nearly $2,000 at auction in the US, might capture the man as many know him, its buyers are not exactly Bolsheviks. They are a group of fervent Brexiters who aim to establish a “museum of communist terror” in the UK, and the Lenin portrait is among a range of Soviet paraphernalia they acquired for more than £24,000.

Government accused of ‘insulting thousands of workers’ over axing of union learning fund
Education Secretary Gavin Williamson refused to reconsider withdrawing £12 million granted to the Union Learning Fund (ULF) when asked in the Commons on Monday. Unionlearn provides skills training which improves the lives and productivity of 200,000 workers a year.

Mexican president satisfied with response to national election accord
Until Monday, 25 of the country's 32 governors -including the head of government of Mexico City - have already accepted the agreement that should govern the June 6 midterm elections when 15 governors, 30 state legislators, hundreds of mayors and 500 seats at the Chamber of Deputies will be renewed.

Arauz hails victory for Ecuadorian people as bank privatisation Bill rejected
ECUADORIAN presidential frontrunner Andre Arauz celebrated parliament’s rejection of a bid to privatise the country’s central bank on Monday as “a triumph for all the Ecuadorian people.” The Bill submitted by President Lenin Moreno, which would also have allowed a $400 million loan from the International Monetary Fund (IMF), was rejected by the legislative administrative council (CAL) as unconstitutional for a second time.

2 in 3 Russians Believe Coronavirus Is a Bioweapon – Poll
According to Levada’s results, 64% of Russian respondents said Covid-19 was artificially created as a new form of biological weapon. That compares with 23% who said the virus emerged naturally and 13% who couldn’t answer.Levada’s survey also found a correlation between rapidly declining daily caseloads and Russians’ fear of getting infected.
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Now that Paul Miller, aka Gypsy Crusader, got arrested. What do you think will happen now? If he posts bail I doubt anyone will pay for it, since at least with child soldier Rittenhouse Mypillowguy thought he was defending himself. But I don't think any public persona would want to associate themselves with Paul Miller
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When will cuck ever recover?

Tell me more about this shit. Stockholm syndrome & cuckoldry can be cure, no? I don't try to become a dengoid, but is there anything worse than becoming a cuck? Why there are so many cucks out there?
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Anyone else feel stunned at how insane Stalin's life story is?

I'm listening to the Revolutions podcast atm and the dude is discussing the 1907 Bolshevik bankheist Stalin led and organized, to discuss this he gave the background on Stalin's life and holy fuck, this dude's life was crazy! Like, a committed revolutionary as a teenager, leader of the tiny faction of Georgian Bolsheviks, a genius and lover of the arts his entire life, a rough and tumble adventurer who had shootouts with tsarist officials while robbing trains and stagecoaches to fund the revolution, holy fuck this dude's young life is genuinely worthy of a film adaptation! Like, this genuinely sounds like shit out of a movie, a real life fantasy story. A dude who broke out of the gulags to nearly freeze in Siberia, but accomplished his escape later on anyway! Apparently when he attended his first Congress of socialist parties he was thrown off by how so many of them were effete writers and thinkers while he was a true revolutionary soldier. Honestly it's throwing me off since most famous socialists don't have life stories anywhere near as interesting as this.
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What do you think about value and abstract labor, natural or temporary?

In another thread >>96519 I wrote an explanation of Marx's use of value, exchange-value, and use-value. In my explanation, I tried to write from the perspective of describing processes, not defining terms, since Marx didn't treat them as terms to be defined.

Since this is a controversial topic, I'd really like to see what others think about value, abstract labor, and commodities; this is a fundamental issue that affects our understanding of capitalism as a whole and especially communism.

One type of a commodity is a useful item that is produced for the purpose of exchange. Nothing is a commodity independently, because the state of an item being a commodity depends on the existence of the social relation of value and exchange. A useful item, such as a brick, is a use-value as long as it's in use. Use-values don't have to be commodities, and they don't have to be produced by humans; the air that you breathe is a use-value. Marx doesn't care why a thing is useful, just whether it is. Use-value is not synonymous with utility; a use-value is useful but it isn't "a utility". This is important because utility as a concept in modern economics is distinct, they try to quantify it.

Exchange value is the necessary form of appearance of value. The ratios at which a commodity exchanges to other commodities are its exchange-values. 10 bricks exchange for 1 bottle of vodka, but could also exchange for 5 bananas. Eventually market economies develop a universal equivalent, commodities are exchanged with money as the prime mediator; price is the form of expression of exchange-value measured in money. To be exchanged they must be reduced to a common element. It isn’t the use values themselves, because they are plainly qualitatively different. It isn’t the type of labor that went into making them, because the concrete labor that went into making the bricks is qualitatively completely different from the concrete labor that went into making the vodka. The basic common element between commodities must therefore be human labor in the abstract. This reduction to abstract human labor is occurs in both the act of exchange, which equates commodities as values, and commodity-producing labor, which presupposes exchange. These commodities are values.

Value is therefore objectified abstract human labor. The magnitude of value is determined by the amount of abstract human labor time that the commodity takes to produce under normal conditions, in Marxese this is the socially necessary labor time. Point of clarification: concrete labor is expended to make a commodity and is measured in the hours and seconds it took to make the commodity, while abstract labor isn’t expended and is measured as fractions of the total labor of society, measured in units of time, but always expressed in units of money. The concrete amount of time it took to produce a particular commodity may not match up with the measure of abstract labor, translated to units of money (its price).
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Dictatorship of the proletariat is the most retarded concept on earth when it prioritizes party members and disallows the average proletarian from having a say in the government. True socialism can only come about when every proletarian has a say in their government and a piece of the political power pie, and when robust systems are in place to keep bourgeois reaction from undoing socialist movements. Mass repression is not the answer, and bourgeois reactionaries only need to be kept out of the system. Proles grounded in theoretical knowledge of Marxism should be at the center of deciding who is bourgeois, but they should not be exempt from being held accountable to the people at large.
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So anarchism is a CIA psyop just like the hippie movement, right?
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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism

A grande richiesta e dopo un'inutile e penosa scissione, rieccoci.
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The breadtuber

What is it that leads modern "internet" leftists in the west to be so individualistic? Everyone wants to make their own ideology (ex: Anarcho-[insert]ism or Marxism-[insert]-[insert]-ism). Why are modern western leftists so disconnected from actual working class struggle and lean so hard into pedantry, arbitrary contrarianism, debate-bro-ism, edgy bullshit and just straight up grifting?

The solution of working class unity requires people going out and doing shit in numbers, so many "internet leftists" seem more like AM radio pundits who are just grifting a niche audience for money and fame rather than actually trying to advance the working class.

Of course they rationalize it by saying twitch streaming is their praxis: well assuming its true and not just a post hoc rationalization for their grifting internet-boi careers, then its a bad form of praxis. Doing anything, literally extremely basic liberal/charity stuff like attending/organizing a protest, organizing feeding the homeless, working with a tenants union or something, would be more productive than the bullshit they do.

Of course, it would also require them to 1) get a real job because they would no longer be able to support themselves off patreon bux, and 2)humble themselves and be a team player who works with others, not just an attention whore dudebro primadonna.

The left really needs an American/Western Mao who will send all these breadtube radlibs down to the countryside to actually learn what work is. Make no mistake: these are not "leftists". If you try and interpret their actions as that of a person coming to conclusions and conversing in good faith you will be confused: a breadtuber, as a youtuber, is really just a self-employed person. Petit bourgeois by class status, and that is their mentality.

Consciously or unconsciously, they follow the market. Being a "leftist" is just a shtick for them, the same way Belle Delphine is a "gamer girl" because she identified a market of lonely video game nerds. Breadtubers were people who identified an underserved market of liberals and leftists who wanted a pushback on mid 2010s anti-sjw shit. They are entrepreneurs first and leftists second, if at all.

That is why people like socialism done left, Hasan pivot from being leftists to being liberals, because it's a bigger market. These types quickly figure out that they either have to branch out or quit, because there aren't enough people on the actual left to grift. The only people who don't quit or sell out are people who have a day job and only do it as a hobby, or get quasi-mainstream journalism gigs at places like RT, Press TV, etc. (mainly shitting on American foreign policy), or are just plain too autistic to know when to give up.

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I just want you to do one thing.
Get into this tweet and see the replies.
What is to be done about right-wingers?
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Sectarianism and Debate

It's quite revealing that sectarianism is the word so often used to describe leftist infighting, since it's typically in reference to conflict within religious groups. Regardless, this is how sectarianism is defined according to Wikipedia:
>Sectarianism is a form of prejudice, discrimination, or hatred arising from attaching relations of inferiority and superiority to differences between subdivisions within a group.
This bears some similarity with Freud's idea of the "narcissism of small differences". Again, according to Wikipedia:
>The narcissism of small differences is the thesis that communities with adjoining territories and close relationships are especially likely to engage in feuds and mutual ridicule because of hypersensitivity to details of differentiation.
What both of these concepts share in common is that groups of people, who appear to have many similarities, tend to come into conflict with each other over perceived differences, even just minor ones. Additionally, in both cases the conflict has a significant emotional content to it.
What do you think causes sectarianism? Is there a solution to sectarianism? If so, what is it? If not, why?

Being the idealist I am, I want leftypol to be a place where honorable and reasoned discussion between opposing points of view can flourish. Because of this, I think it's important to point out the obvious: UNMODERATED DEBATE IS A HARMFUL
The key word here is unmoderated. Debate is not only useful, but in my opinion necessary. However, debate can be very flawed, hence the presence of moderators and rules that help guide good debates. Without such factors, debates can descend into the realm of emotionalism and rhetoric. Banter is one thing, but bullying should have no place in any serious discussion. A good forum will not only allow but actively encourage debate, yet specifically in a form that is regulated.
Ideally, debaters would moderate themselves, but this is clearly not the case. This is why I am in favor of taking an authoritarian stance towards sectarianism and aggressive rhetoric in debate threads. There is no reason why either fair and free debate or even just banter across the board should be stifled by such a policy. All that would need to be done is for an OP to title their thread something like "DEBATE: Should jaywalking be punished with the death penalty?". Then, any such threads should have a clearly defined set of procedures (sort of like Robert's Rules) applied to it, and any replies which deviate from the rules will be deleted. No banning aside from what is already considered bannable, just cleaning up the discussion so that debates can take place unmolested.
Do you agree or disagree, and why?
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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General

Volume 4: Finally some actual riots edition

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, jungle NPA or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us! Kiwis are welcome! South Asia can joined too I guess.

Last threads
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It seems the Armenian Army is "asking" the President to resign. Is this another coup? Also is it me or all these coups are a sign of an instability of some sorts in the world right now?
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Radical Liberalism as a parody of neoconservatism

Burgerland post.

Radical Liberalism, or radlibs, as we call them, is a form of liberal politics which emerged in the early 2010s, starting from blogs and college campuses and eventually spreading its hyperwoke culture into mainstream corporations, movies/tv, etc. Radical liberalism is often associated with the "millennial" generation, especially upper-middle class college graduates and also “identity politics”. Contrary to right wing beliefs, this is mostly an organic cultural shift due to the fact that college graduates make more money on average and are also more liberal on average, so corporations becoming work is actually just the result of normal market forces responding to the consumer preferences of the people who actually have money now, which is the mostlyl liberal knowledge workers.

My argument is that Millennial politics is mostly motivated by a backlash against the Bush era and neoconservatism, but this backlash actually imitates the thing it's lashing against very closely.

In the early 2000s, the culture was very different. You couldn’t criticize Bush, or criticize the war, without someone jumping down your throat, calling you a faggot prick who hated America, hated freedom and was a terrorist sympathizer or Saddam lover. Famously, the dixie chicks, a country group got shitcanned by conservatives after one of them said something mildly against the Iraq war while on tour. Overnight, thousands of people protested, sperged out, smashed their CD’s in the streets, and one guy even rolled over their CD’s with a steamroller.

Millennials who got this imprinted on them as children, teens, or young adults, learned – this is how we deal with people politically. Effective, isn’t it? According to these people, the problem conservatives have with cancel culture isn’t that people couldn’t be hounded out of polite society at the end of a pitchfork, only that they were on the wrong end of the pitchfork – that the culture had shifted from a post 9/11 conservatism so that people other than “conservative white males” could flex their power, unlike before.

Wokeness is a religion. It’s a religion for a new secular age. As urbanization and modernity erode traditional religious beliefs, humans still have the needs of religion, to find meaning in the world. Wokeness isn’t entirely political, although it overlaps with politics. It’s individualistic, it is more about feeling like a good person individually than any form of praxis, let alone praxis oriented towards economic change. 2010s hyper-wokeness embodied the new left slogan of “the personal is political” more than anything else and even went further – to nearly implying that ONLY the personal is political, that politics is reducible to individualized interactions. This isn’t even Gramsci’s war of position, but in actuality is closer to a Foucaultian notion of micropolitics.

I went to a woke poetry slam, for a date I had with a liberal girl. It was an event that happened every few weeks. I also went to church as a kid. The similarities are striking. Its a periodic repeating event that people go to, to reaffirm their beliefs. They ask for money. There’s singing and/or music involved. And there is a person on a stage preaching about morality. The people murmur their assent.

Boomers call them socialist or communist because that’s a word they know to describe people to the left of them that they don’t like. The truth is they aren’t socialist or communist, because socialist would imply that they care about economics, which they don’t unless it overlaps with race/gender categories. When is the last time someone has been cancelled for saying something problematic about race, LGBT, gender, etc.? All the time. Has a similar hounding out of polite society EVER happened to someone who for example was for treating uber drivers as contractors and not full time employees? Or someone who was against raising the minimum wage? Literally never. Their true wrath, their zeal, a religious zeal is directed towards cultural issues only. Liberalism vs conservatism. Libertine hedonism vs tradition and morality. Youth versus middle age. Open mindedness versus Contentiousness and firm belief. Who are these people, do they inject heroin by day and party by night? No, they are “normal” upper middle class knowledge economy workers who live either in the city or suburban areas. In fact they look like the old demographics of what used to be the Republican base, ye upper middle class white anglo-saxon protestants of old (although the new group is slightly more diverse).

People kept saying, when Millennials get older they will become conservative. When they graduate college and get into the “real world” they will change. Well it didn’t happen. Millennials are old now and the world didn’t change them, the culture simply shifted. Because of course it would. The boomers reaching their 30s didn’t bring back Pleasantville, leave it to beaver 1950s society no matter how much Reagan’s evangelical base wanted it to. Society had already been changed forever. People could have sex before marriage, and homosexuality was legal, even if still there was a stigma against it.

People asked “when will Millennials become conservative” the short answer is, they already are. What is a conservative is relative. A Communist is radical in America, but conservative in 1980s Russia. Radical Liberals today actually are conservative, the difference is instead of being conservative in relation to traditional American anglo-protestant culture, they are conservative to a newer, secular form of morality and pseudo-religion which the cultural right doesn’t like or agree with. Their bible is a collection of Kimberle Crenshaw essays, their catechism, a copy of “white fragility”. Radical liberalism is not libertine in the slightist. It is radically moralist. There is policing around what words and attitudes are proper. There is policing of sexuality, sexual behavior, and even how we talk about sex. Just like fundamentalist christians denied material conditions and described the great recession as a “spiritual crisis”, radical liberals eschew talking about class politics in favor of identitarian sources of economic problems. Christian Conservatives decried “taking prayer out of schools”. Modern liberals put extreme wokeness into schools, even the public school system in places like New York City for example.

Now, it is the liberals who are the ones who claim decency and morality and civility, and the right who are the edgy transgressives – the vulgarians, the angry people. And with things like Russiagate they get to even play at being cold-warriors. With the capitol riot they get to say that liberals are the patriots, and the right are the traitors. A strange inversion! And famously, they support interventionist aggressive foreign policy as well, ex: Rachel Maddow, a gay woman but also a warmonger and insane russiagate conspiracy theorist, the grad-school educated Alex Jones.

In one of the early Covid relief bills, for the first time, the democrats included a provision to cut the SALT cap. Yes, in 2017, TRUMP passed a bill that limited the amount of state and local taxes you can reduce off your federal taxes to $10,000 max, while the Democrats under Pelosi proposed to eliminate or raise this cap so that upper middle class suburbanites would be benefitting most from this, reflecting the new upper middle class, class interests of the democratic party.

Yes, the best way to understand radlibs, who ten years ago were college students, now the white collar suburban base of the democrats is that they are essentially Bush era neoconservatives, but their evangelical christianity is wokeness.
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>so youre saying we can keep all our crops without having to pay taxes?
>yes by doing a revolution
>um okay but after that who will protect us?
>er well youll probably need another ruler to protect you
>then whats the point?
>this ruler will be better, trust me bros.
>no thanks i think ill just pay my taxes
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What happens if Iran gets the bomb?

What would be the consequences of Iran getting nuclear weapons?
My first idea would be the burgers and israel would try to either give the Saudis bombs or go with the NK plan of hitting everything that can be a nuke and then invade. Would the Euros allow the US and Israel to risk a hot war?
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Is cultural appropriation real?

I know its an idpoled topic but i dont know if it is completely a meaningless discussion
I cant really make any meaningful critic so i ask if anyone has any good marxist takes on the issue
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Waco siege thread

Whats leftypols feelings on the waco siege? Ill start.

I know its something that Libright love to go on about because it has all the things they love like guns, killing feds and fucking children but Im seeing a bunch of extremely cringe takes that refuse to even acknowledge the horrible shit that the ATF did and how enormous their fuck up was. How can we ever expect the average amerifag to ever sympathize with our historic instances of the feds killing ours when we wont even acknowledge the monstrous behavior from the federal government?
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/auspol.org/ - Australia General

Thread dedicated to the discussion of Australian politics and events.

I get that since the split the number of Australians here probably went from being counted on two hands to just one, but I figured that there should be at least a thread here that we can keep bumping.
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Gorbachev just turned 90

When will this piece of shit finally bite the dust?
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Socialist parties in the US worth joining?

I’ll tell you the truth, I had a long conversation with my parents where they more or less called me out for being a fucking coward that has beliefs I do absolutely nothing with. And they’re right, having communist beliefs and sitting with them is fucking cowardly, and I’m sick of being this way, I want to make a real difference, a communist who does nothing should have no right to call himself a communist. I’ just looked up US communist parties but the list was so long, can anyone narrow down a decent party that’s actually helping people?
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Why have so many “Marxists” abandoned dialectics for metaphysics?
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Foco theory

In Guerrilla Warfare (La Guerra de Guerrillas), Guevara did not count on a Leninist insurrection led by the proletariat as had happened during the 1917 October Revolution, but on popular uprisings which would gain strength in rural areas and would overthrow the regime. The vanguard guerrilla was supposed to bolster the population's morale, not to take control of the state apparatus itself and this overthrow would occur without any external or foreign help. According to him, guerrillas were to be supported by conventional armed forces:

>It is well established that guerrilla warfare constitutes one of the phases of war; this phase can not, on its own, lead to victory.

What does /leftypol/ think of foco theory? is it adventurism? is it terrorism? Why did it succeed in Cuba and fail in the other countries Che tried it in?
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Marxist-Leninists are literally reactionaries with their vanguards and personality cults that lead into actual dictatorships. An absolute monarchy with a planned economy like in North Korea is not socialism and still less communism. Its feudalism with factories.
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Is the internet compatible with capitalism?

When one sees how much the internet today has been stripped of any of its revolutionary potential and just made into a gigantic surveillance and propaganda machine one has to wonder if capitalism can really even function properly with novel civilization-changing technologies like the internet. Of course we know that the capitalist mode of production can't exist without constantly revolutionizing the means of production and technology and thus reshaping society as a whole in a fundamentally different way, but this time it feels like capitalism has hit a roadblock with this process and gave rise to a technology that could potentially be a threat to the very existence of the system, and thus it had to strip it of any meaningful difference between it and older communication technologies to where the internet has become just a faster TV, radio and telephone with higher rates of surveillance added on top.

So what do you think? Will this process still continue uninhibited in the future and the internet will just become just one massive intellectual prison for all of humanity or could this be the start of a new process where the very productive forces of society don't even function properly with capitalism?
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i wonder if any of the leftists here/in general that shilled for biden unironically still maintain that biden was a better choice
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Banners + Theming + Favicon + Flags

Official leftypol.org embellishment project
Let's make banners, new themes and favicons for leftypol.org! Let's give this place some colors!

The resolution of the banners is 300x100.
The resolution for the favicon is 15x15.
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McDonald’s Secretive Intel Team Spies on ‘Fight for $15’ Workers, Internal Documents Show

McDonald’s collects ‘strategic intelligence’ on workers advocating for a $15 minimum wage, including ‘how and where will FF$15 attack the brand.’

The fast food giant's secretive intelligence unit has monitored its own workers’ activities with the movement, which seeks to increase the minimum wage to $15 per hour, including by using social media monitoring tools, according to two sources who worked at McDonald's who had direct knowledge of the surveillance and leaked documents that explain the surveillance strategy and tactics. A team of intelligence analysts in the Chicago and London offices keep an eye on the activities of Fight for $15 labor organizers across the world, figure out which McDonald's workers are active in the movement, and who they are working with to organize strikes, protests, or attempt to form unions.

"The idea was to figure out their strategy, counter it, and find out where the key players are, and who they know"

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What makes him not a leftist?
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On March 1, 1881, in St. Petersburg, with a single wave of a white handkerchief, Sophia Perovskaya completed a long-term hunt for Emperor Alexander II. It seemed that on this day, the luck again turned against the people's Will, when the tsar's carriage drove past the mined Malaya Sadovaya, where the bombers were waiting for it. In order to get to the tsar, Narodnaya Volya mined an entire street (and before that, the bridge and the railway). The bombers decide not to give up. And while the tsar was drinking the last tea of his life, four young people were choosing a suitable place on the embankment of the Catherine Canal. On this day, with the light hand of Perovskaya, there was one less tyrant in Europe.

One can treat this event differently, but the fact remains that for the first time in the history of Russia, the Russian tsar was dismissed by the direct will of the people. This is how direct democracy works. Well, as for the methods that the Narodovoltsy chose for themselves, here is their own attitude to terror:

Terror is a terrible thing, there is only one thing worse than terror: it is to endure violence without a murmur
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TFW no GF movie

watched this today and found it very interesting as it was a very honest dive into the lives of alot of the image board types that make up the vast numbers of pol/ and othe reactionary Mosque shooter types and one thing i was distinctly able to notice throughout was how these young men spoke so strongly of an alienation they felt both from their peers and from any sort of greater meaning in their lives and i think its extremely interesting that alot of the Alt right and groyper types has been able to pick up these sorts at least in the first few years instead of them actually identifying with has created these unfair outcomes in capitalism and then wanting to change it they instead get pulled into this self loathing restarted misery hole of posting online and wanting to die.
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Terminator Cyborg

This maybe has been discussed before, but what if porkies steps ahead of us? I mean, they're building cyborgs to quell mass rebellion & exterminate us, don't they? What's the odds later? Can we survive against them? I don't want to be a doomer retard, but just how strong us the masses? It's never too late, isn't it?
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Am I a radlib?

I identify as an anarcho-communist but I think social issues like racism, sexism, transphobia, homophobia etc should be treated on the same level as class struggle,
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What do you think actually living through and experiencing WWII was like?

Sometimes I wish I experienced it since it sounds like the last truly epic event in human history and everything after will never be worthy of the history books in the way WWII was
That or the US Civil War for Burger-specific history
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Hayek on Engineers

>It is important, however, to observe that the engineer's view of his job as complete in itself is, in some measure, a delusion. He is in a position in a competitive society to treat it as such because he can regard that assistance from society at large on which he counts as one of his data, as given to him without having to bother about it. That he can buy at given prices the materials and the services of the men he needs, that if he pays his men they will be able to procure their food and other necessities, he will usually take for granted. It is through basing his plans on the data offered to him by the market that they are fitted into the larger complex of social activities; and it is because he need not concern himself how the market provides him with what he needs that he can treat his job as self-contained. So long as market prices do not change unexpectedly he uses them as a guide in his calculations without much reflection about their significance.


Reminder that Hayek got so buttblasted that he wrote a whole essay ranting about how engineers can't possibly understand the magic of the market.
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/EUROpol/ European Politics General

Are you sitting down?
1. Dutch government resigns amid child welfare benefits scandal
2. Angela Merkel stepping down.
3. Estonia Prime Minister missing
4. Italian government has collapsed.
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This man saved socialism. Without him there would be 0 realistic attempts at establishing future communism right now.
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Beer Hall Putsch Vibes

Believe me when i say i'm well a-fuckin-ware that any comparison between Trumpism and National Socialism/Fascism is generally considered to be
But for me at least, ENOUGH similarities have lined up for the idea of Trumpism as American Fascism to be taken seriously. (Opposed to being PURELY a re-asertion reganite neo-liberal economics with populist branding)
Q-Anon pedo conspiracies are a pretty clear fit for the anti-semtic conspiracy theories of central europe in the early 20th century that gave rise to Hitler.
The "Rigged Election" and the subsequent "cucking" of the GOP in the senate is already online being described as a "stab in the back" (Somewhat ironically being similar to the German stab in the back in so far as the GOP much like the German Empire couldn't really do shit to change anything)
The General branding of Trumpism as "populism" and as a inherently borg co-opting of proleterian resentment with Capitalism into National Chauvinism is pretty decent fit for how the Nazis called themselves "National Socialists" in more boomer friendly language
Even when you look at the demographics of Maga itself the class democgaphics map pretty well onto that shared by NSDAP (IE petite suburban borg, rural small holders and lumpin reactionaries)
The Biden presidency interestingly I think may also share a fare amount of similarities with the Hunger Chancellery, especially if the dems keep fuckin around trying to uphold "norms" while half the country is kicked out of their homes in the coming months. This will only be exaserbated if Covid lockdowns are reinstituted and dems once again in the persuit of perserving "norms" refuse to blow up the filibuster to keep McConel from blocking relief or just have the right-wing of their party refuse to support the base keynsian hole patching needed to keep capitalism afloat.
The major between the US and Germany of course being the entrenchment of liberal democracy and its legitimacy in america which weimar germany explicitly DID NOT have as well as far less concentrated demographic majority for the given movement to draw from.
This being the case i think an outright democratic victory is unlikely (excluding extreme measures of voter supression, which is by no means impossible)
Far more likely scenario I se is something simlar to the Spanish civil war with of course a noticable absense of any left-wing force in the county to ballance a war between reganites with D's after their name and Fascists, perhaps a few fed up urban populations create some Chaz's but i dont se this shit getting far.
Anyone got any thoughts/criticisms??
I'm willing to talk seriously about this OR be called a dumbass if thats what you think
Just please give reasons why if you do and what material conditions i'm missing in my analisis
(or if you agree feel free to post other realities you feel reinforce the points)
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How do I indoctrinate my child into communism? My daughter is one year old and soon she's going to be getting her head pumped full of capitalist propaganda by the media and school and her friends and whatnot. I need to counter this but I also don't want my kindergartener to say "daddy loves Stalin and told me the kulaks deserved it" to her teacher
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Sorry prole, but you don't have standing to sue to avoid being killed by climate change!

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how can we make communism less cringe?

every time i try to promote leftism i get called cringe. seems everyone is gravitating towards fascism and nazism because its the only thing the establishment seems to attack all the time. they wouldn't attack it if they weren't scared of it they tell me
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Renounce communism or the cat gets it

do you want his blood on your hands?
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Is this how you all think?

Is this the reasoning leftists have? They are frustrated they can't consume as much as they want to, compared to other people. They're unironically greedy and materialistic. These are people that get resentful of others.
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What is type of politics from techoids called when they say they don't believe in politics, but implicitly spout libertarian bullshit? Gotta say, it really triggers my sensitivities.

How can we save the tech workers?
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How can a world that makes such beautiful things, be so bad?

I want a leftypol thread about the Duality of Man
At once mankind is both creative and destructive, capable of acts of both amazing altruism and self-sacrifice as well as acts of great barbarism, man creates art but also wages war, man ponders the secrets of the universe and the depths of the soul, man is truly an amazing creature; let’s discuss this without a spooked idea like “Muh Terialism” getting in the way :)
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Creative Destruction

Creative destruction is the driving force behind capitalistic economic growth. Marx was the first to mention its destructive power.

Creative destruction is the idea that good ideas/corporations survive and bad ideas/corporations die and give room and wasted resources to better ideas/corporations. Its basically evolutionary theory applied to market economics.

Can this theory be emulated in a planned economy? Is it even desirable to emulate this theory as Marx was very critical about it? In my opinion Marx failed to see the benefits of letting bad ideas die that waste resources.
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Thought on accelerationism?
Fascist porky on acid or some aspects legit?
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News 3/1/21

South Korea's Moon says Olympics may be chance for North Korea, U.S. talks
Speaking at a ceremony marking the 102nd anniversary of the March 1 Independence Movement Day in Seoul, Moon also said South Korea will work with Japan for the success of the Tokyo Olympics, which could help the two countries recover from the fallout from the coronavirus pandemic.

Kremlin Rejects Research Showing Falling Incomes
A Nielsen survey, published Monday, found 53% of Russian respondents said they were worse off as a result of the crisis — that was twice the level recorded by the same survey in September and above the global average of 46%. “We have different data. We consider the conclusions reached by this publication’s authors to be incorrect,” Kommersant cited him as saying.

Palestinian solidarity group refuses to be silenced after terrorist destination by Israel
THE Samidoun Palestinian Prisoner Solidarity Network said that it would not be silenced today after Israeli Defence Minister Benny Gantz designated it as a terrorist organisation. Samidoun said the move was “the latest manifestation of a smear campaign that is intended to silence international support for the Palestinian people and especially the nearly 5,000 Palestinians jailed by the Israeli occupation.”

Court in Israel sentences Palestinian politician Khalida Jarrar to two years in prison
Jarrar, a prominent political activist and member of the Marxist-Leninist organisation the Popular Front for Liberation of Palestine (PFLP), was arrested at her home in Ramallah on 31 October 2019, and has since been in detention. The court at the Ofer military base northwest of Jerusalem also ordered her to pay a fine of $1,300.

Class dismissed: England’s poorer students ‘five grades behind’ richer ones – report
On average, the study found that, by the time students reached the age of 16-19, they were the equivalent of three grades behind more affluent peers, with some in particularly disadvantaged parts of England as much as five grades behind.

Oldknow loses legal bid to reveal who allegedly leaked Labour anti-semitism report
EX-LABOUR staffer Emilie Oldknow has lost her legal bid to force the party to say who leaked its internal report into the handling of allegations of anti-semitism. In a ruling in the High Court in London today, Ms Justice Tipples refused Ms Oldknow’s application for an order forcing Labour to disclose who the party “reasonably believes” was responsible for the leak.

German soldier, relatives arrested over ‘hoarding’ weapons & ammo, and making ‘extremist statements’
On Monday, police in the German western state of Hesse said they arrested two men, including a 21-year-old Bundeswehr soldier, as part of a series of raids over the weekend. While searching their apartments, the Special Forces officers discovered “extensive evidence” of their illegal activities and seized “military-grade weapons, various ammunition and explosives.”

Argentina's President to Sue Mauricio Macri Over IMF Loan
"A US$44 billion loan… vanished before the administration changed in December 2019," Fernandez said and accused Macri of embezzling public funds. The former president took on the debt without prior legislative debate. The Constitution requires this type of loan to be previously approved by Parliament.

The Century of Women virtual meeting to be held in Bolivia
The event will be held virtually until March 3, with participants from Germany, Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Paraguay, Peru, Venezuela, Uruguay and the host country, in order to bring together the continent's creators. The director of the Goethe-Institut La Paz, Sabine Hentzsch, said that the aim is to 'lead to new actions on how we can work to counteract the growing violence against girls and women.'

Unemployment Grows in Colombia
Between January 2020 and January 2021, the employed population dropped from 21.5 million to 19.9 million, which represented a reduction of -7.3 percent. The active population grew by 1.5 million to 15.9 million while the unemployed population went from 3.2 million to 4.1 million.
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What led to the collapse of Keynesian economics in the 1970s in favor of neoliberal Friedman economics?

What caused it's stagnation etc.?
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Can everyone post here with different flags -I- WE want to see all of the flags
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Any other LGBT+ people hate Bougeois "acceptance"?

I just feel so lost right now. Almost everybody that I like hates LGBT+ people and all the liberals, neocons and other Atlanticists are wrapping themselves in the rainbow flag. How has it helped LGBT+ people in Russia, who are now villified as pro-NATO agents and sympathizers? Are gay Yemenis supposed the cheer the gay drone pilot that murdered their families? Are trans Venezuelans supposted to cheer now that trans North Americans can join the imperialist military? Is somebody who just got thrown into homelessness by their parents for coming out supposed to feel better that funds that could have been used to build housing for them were plowed into regime change ops and military boondoggles instead? How can they call themselves the "new civil rights movement" but be pro-empire and pro-austerity? I hate them, I hate their "open society" and "liberal democracy", I don't want them on my side and I would thank them by finding a way to stab them in the back.
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Spain: Protests erupt across country after rapper's arrest

>Spanish rapper Pablo Hasel's arrest has sparked protests in major cities, with critics calling his prosecution an assault on free speech. The artist was convicted for insulting the monarchy and glorifying terrorism.

>Thousands of protesters took to the streets across Spanish cities on Tuesday evening demanding the release of a rapper arrested by police over a series of tweets in a controversial free speech case.

>Police in riot gear stormed a university 150 kilometers (90 miles) west of Barcelona on Tuesday morning and arrested rapper Pablo Hasel, who had barricaded himself inside the campus to avoid jail.

>Later in the day, around 2,000 people rallied in central Barcelona waving banners and placards that said: "Freedom for Pablo Hasel."

>A handful of protesters also set trash cans on fire, erected street barricades, and threw stones, bottles, and firecrackers at the police, chanting slogans such as "Death to the Spanish regime."

>Video footage on Twitter also showed police charging at protesters hurling objects at them, trying to disperse the crowd, in some cases using batons and foam projectiles.

>Several stores and banks were damaged, and police stations in the Catalan capital were vandalized, with windows smashed and spray-paints on the walls.

>The Catalan regional police Mossos d'Escuadra said on Twitter that protesters burned motorbikes and bins, creating barricades and blocking streets in Barcelona, adding that 14 people had been arrested.

Tl;dr a rapper got thrown in jail for insulting the Spanish monarchy and now spain is burning

Article: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/spain-protests-erupt-across-country-after-rappers-arrest/a-56593648

Thread theme: https://youtu.be/4XmNNb63TVo
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Nuclear Energy

REDpill me on nuclear energy. Is it really the solution to all our energy problems?
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Question for AnComs and other assorted anarchists

Would you work with real ancaps (not crypto-fash larpers) in destroying the state? Even the most radical of them I've seen say their ancap utopia is being something where they live in extremely decentralized autonomous zones. Keeping aside the fact that capitalism always produces monopolies they're at least against the government.
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Is socialism when worker cooperatives? Or is socialism when state capitalism? Or is socialism when
About vouchers?
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What are some good operational security tips, both in person and online? Obviously don't use your real name or face online, but what are some additional steps I can take to remain anonymous, especially during irl protests?
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What's the deal with latinx?

Why is this word a thing? English already has a native gender-neutral synonym for "latino": latin. You know, like in Latin America.

It makes zero sense in Spanish, phonetic and grammar wise. From the point of view of a spanish-speaker the word latinx is impossible to pronounce as written.

It's also retarded how woke liberals use the adjective "latino" as to mean non-white (I know colonial racial classifications about whiteness are bs, just bear with me for a sec), when there are plenty of caucasian South Americans, plus of course the majority of the population of Portugal, Spain, France and Italy who are after all, latin peoples as well.
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100th anniversary of Kronstadt

Is this the most glaring "everyone i don't like is a counter revolutionary" moment ?
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Why are econ majors such utter faggots?

Is the class designed to teach you how to lick porky’s cum off the floor or something?
Wtf do they even teach you in econ?
And why do people pretend that it’s a hard science?
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This thread will be dedicated to the upcoming Feb 7 elections in Ecuador.

The three main contenders are
Andres Arauz (Correista, so socdem but antiimperialism pilled)
Guillermo Lasso (literal comprador porky)
Yaku Perez (cringe indigenous idpol candidate)

The stakes of these elections, besides governing a country of 17 million people:

-Possibility of further breaking the blockade in Venezuela
-Some benefits for Cuba
-Possibility to definitely affirm the rebirth of leftism in Latin America as a force in ascent
-(Maybe) Some more support for Peruvian leftist candidates in the upcoming elections in April

And last but not least the possibility of making some Porklets somewhere shake in their boots as stated by Bloomberg in this article:

Hoping this thread will get busy and good as the Bolivian one pre-split was.
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China worshippers eternally BTFO

Dengoids and Xi simps can finally return to /pol/ where they belong and kill themselves. Chinese intellectuals and party officials are openly embracing the works of OG Nazi ideologues.

>Though Chinese academics are often circumscribed in what they can and cannot say, they nevertheless do disagree in public. At times, they even offer limited, and careful, critiques of China’s leadership. This time, however, the sheer volume of pieces that Chinese scholars produced, as well as the nature of those arguments—consistent, coordinated, and often couched in sophisticated legal jargon—suggested a new level of cohesion in Beijing on the acceptable scope of the state’s power.

>Chinese President Xi Jinping has markedly shifted the ideological center of gravity within the Communist Party. The limited tolerance China had toward dissent has all but dissipated, while ostensibly autonomous regions (geographically as well as culturally), including Xinjiang, Inner Mongolia, and Hong Kong, have seen their freedoms curtailed. All the while, a new group of scholars has been in ascendance.

>Known as “statists,” these academics subscribe to an expansive view of state authority, one even broader than their establishment counterparts. Only with a heavy hand, they believe, can a nation secure the stability required to protect liberty and prosperity. As a 2012 article in Utopia, a Chinese online forum for statist ideas, once put it, “Stability overrides all else.”

>Prioritizing order to this degree is anathema to much of the West, yet perspectives such as these are not unprecedented in Western history. In fact, China’s new statists have much in common with a faction that swept through Germany in the early 20th century.

China has in recent years witnessed a surge of interest in the work of the German legal theorist Carl Schmitt. Known as Hitler’s “Crown Jurist,” Schmitt joined the National Socialist Party in 1933, and, though he was only officially a Nazi Party member for three years, his anti-liberal jurisprudence had a lasting impact—at the time, by helping to justify Hitler’s extrajudicial killings of Jews and political opponents, and then long afterward. Whereas liberal scholars view the rule of law as the final authority on value conflicts, Schmitt believed that the sovereign should always have the final say.

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Fight me

Let's talk about efficiency. Just how much Papa Xi Jin Ping fund you? This website even not very appropriate. After reading about your drama & split, looks like you all larpers in the end. So what's your counter argument?
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AIDS should die

Before you delete this thread, tell me why you so attached with degeneracy? Why would communism embrace degeneracy? Degeneracy won't bring you nothing more than wasted efforts. It must be because you all have cucked DNA.
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May Day

What has become of this great event? Originally, International Workers' Day was a series of strikes intended to achieve the 8 hour work day. Nowadays, it's either just a mild socdem holiday, or some "revolutionary" anarchist LARP against the police. It's literally worthless. We won't achieve anything by going out to the streets to get beaten up by the police while also alienating the populace, because let's face it, no one likes it when random people start smashing shit for no apparent reason. It just makes the average people hate the left in general. That's why I think leftist movements shoud try to find a new goal to strive towards. This could be anything from demilitarization, protecting the environment or - preferably - workers' rights. In my opinion, at this point we could literally start a 6-hour movement and it would actually be feasible. We could also get massive popular support again this way. What's your opinion? Do you have any ideas for such a movement?
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Tigray War

Can I get a quick rundown on what the fuck is going on here? I know very little about it. From what I understand, the Ethiopian government shut down an election in Tigray, so Tigray wants to become independent, but the Ethiopian government does not approve and the conflict spiraled out of control. Tigray's nationalist party is leftist in nature, but I have heard people accuse them of being western backed with the intention of sabotaging China's efforts in Ethiopia.
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Communism vs anarchism middle ground?

I feel like I can't really see myself ever truly aligning myself with either the classical state socialist model or a more anarchist one. I feel both have good things to offer in different contexts so I've been trying to think of some kind of middle ground both groups could find in common.

Basically what are other models beyond this binary?
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Why are there "leftists" who defend the Hungarian counter-revolution of 1956 and the Czechoslovak counter-revolution of 1968?
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Could there be a split in the Republican Party in the near future?

We've seen how the republicans have been split into two camps over the Trump fiasco: those who stood with Trump and thought he was the future of the party and the more "moderate" republicans who want to distance themselves from Trump and his ideology. Could this schism be the breaking point in the GOP's history, especially if the Democrats demonstrate that they could handle the current crisis better?
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Why are there still unironic anarchists in 2021?

Despite the fact that anarchists have not been able to pull off even (1) successful revolution, there are still millions of people, especially in the imperialist core, that cling to this impotent ideology. Are they really naive enough to think you can pull off a successful revolution without centralization and means of repressing reactionaries? Or did they just fall for CIA propaganda about muh authoritarianism. I honestly wonder how many anarchists are unironic glowies.
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"Ownership" is arbitrary.

Commies are dumb for thinking that ownership is a real thing because the category of the means of production in relation to its ownership is something that is measured through taxonomy, the same as a nation. The concept of prot and broug weren't enough, so you add the concept of petty bourg, taxonomy doesnt have the potential to be objective in the truest sense
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If private property and land ownership aren’t natural, why do wolves have territories?

Checkmate gommies
The problem with comunisms is that when u r a commie u cant handle teh power of SCIENCE
So tell me gommies
If private property isn’t natural, y do wolves defend their kills and their territories from other wolves?
U rlly think u can just make everyone nice and equal and get rid of the innovators and society will just function?
U know where they tried that? Somalia, look at it now.
Tell me again gommies, tell me if wolves believe in your system
Lmao, anyway imma enjoy this nice juicy burger CAPITALISM lets me have, it’s nice to have FOOD

Checkmate, later commies 😎
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Wikipedia Love Thread

We have two negative wikipedia threads:
>>42922 and >>73498
Why do we not have a positive Wikipedia thread?
What pages do you know of or relate to your interests that should be improved on?
What start class or stubs interest you that lack citations, both general or inline and are poorly written or translated?
What relevent articles to leftism or radical politics do you think should be tranlated over to wikipedia?
What are you confused about or want to know with regard to Wikipedia policy?

If you are new I think you should start here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Socialism
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Would historical materialism be wrong if there was an alien civilization?

Let’s say there’s life on another planet that even had a civilization but that civilization never went through the modes of production on Earth, would histomat be wrong? Did Marx think there could possibly be life on other planets?
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Are cops in socialist states bastards?

"All cops are bastards" is common saying on the left, which is blunt way of saying that the institution of policing is inherently oppressive and should be abolished. I would imagine that leftypol believes that all capitalist cops are bastards, but what about socialist cops?
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Why is anarchism so idpoled yet so white

This is focused on the first world, because outside of there it is more different.
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Escaping Censorship

The tech media monopolies have been ramping up attacks on independent news media ever since the US capital riots, but they have really escalated censorship the last few days. Grayzone story getting tagged by Twitter as "material that may have been obtained through hacking", Analysis.news getting a video about the lack of police presence during the riots flagged by Youtube for spreading misinformation about election fraud, and Consortium News getting a video taken down for talking all about voter suppression.




This is not a thread for discussion about what speech will look like after the revolution; this is about what we can do right now to help our allies escape censorship and keep public discourse open to our politics. How can we help each other?
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Where the Proud Boys COINTELPRO?

What is says in the title, were the Proud Boys COINTELPRO to distract the radical right from actual wignat terrorism and bring them under a controlled, honeypot org?

Link to article: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/02/12/proud-boys-splintering-after-capitol-riot-revelations-leader/6709017002/
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Not talking about Veganism, just about Vegetarianism. What are the pros and cons of it? Should Marxists support it? When yes, based on what reasoning?

Tbh I see a lot of Libs approaching this from the Morals Angle, while saying Meat is healthier, because it provides nutricients that a Vegetarian has trouble consuming. That sounds like bollocks desu
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Taxes evasion and capital movement

Is the movement of financial capital the largest reason why a return to a sociodemocratic status quo in the West is impossible?
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Let me see all your favourite Commiepastas, ill start

I used to love Marxism. Even voted for Sanders for communist president in the democratic primaries.
I knew democracy was the only true path to a communist utopia. Like Marx said:

>Killing people and destroying property solves nothing. Democracy is the only road to socialism.

Used to read Marx daily. I must have scrolled through brainyquote.com reading ALL his quotes. Oh, I don't know what "human labor in the abstract" means WHO THE FUCK CARES. I don't know what "commodity production" means? Fuck off, you purists.
Revolution isn't made by armchair theorists like you, sitting around all smug in your mom's basement nickpicking every little detail anyone gets wrong. It's made by DEMOCRACY when the PEOPLE come together and realize they can create something BETTER. A society created in our own image, THAT's what Marx was really fighting for. Assholes.

I started going down the wrong path. I started getting real deep into Marx, far down the rabbit hole. I found some works written by Marx, the really dark stuff. I started getting into his Theory of White Genocide. Quoted:

>The White Man is dead labor, which, vampire-like, lives only by sucking living labor, and lives the more, the more labor he sucks.

I realized that the white man must be destroyed if we were to create a communist utopia. At that point I realized it was too great a cost to humanity, and realized my own path down insanity.

Started reading Mises, Hayek, Rothbard. The good guys. Learned about the sanctity of property. Learned about how to DEBUNK the labor theory of value with the mudpie argument. But most important of all, I learned about INDIVIDUALISM and how Capitalism is really the best system for that.

I was like "Holy shit. When you get a job, you actually AGREED to sell your labor to him. Wild". Marx's arguments just fell apart.

But the nail in the coffin, for Marx? He forgot about human nature.
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Imperial alliances and rivalries

Why are some imperial states long-time allies with each other, and enemies with others? The UK, France, and the United States have been allied for quite a long time, though have considered Germany as an opponent for its first several decades as a unified state itself. Why Germany though? Doesn't France have competing interests for colonies with the UK and everything else like that? And what's with the UK having been allied with Portugal since 1386?
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Is fascist propaganda overrated

Was nazi and fash lies as effective as described or is it a liberal cop out for the issues of capitalism
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Was it moral to kill the Czar's children?
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what does leftypol think of modern Europeans tearing down medieval monuments and buildings for industrial expansion?
I consider myself pretty socially liberal, I don’t really care if people want to burn churches in their neighborhoods and shit like that, but isn’t it somewhat important to keep historic monuments intact for the sake of studying it? to me this is not that different from discovering a bunch of ancient Mesopotamian artifacts and just destroying them, I would think it a bane to future scholars to prevent them from accessing these things.
honest to god I’m not a /pol/ troll trying to spread idpol. I think these thinks can be viewed from a scientific materialist perspective.
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Is the UN good or evil?

What is the UN’s role in this world?
What was their role in the Cold War?
If they’re evil, why did the Soviets help to create it?
Does the UN truly exist to prevent another world war?
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Should I take the Pol Pot pill bros? Life just keeps getting harder and harder and I unironically am starting to believe Saloth did nothing wrong
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Take the rouge pill
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The Left-Right paradigm popularly used across the planet, appropriated from the French Revolution, and its standard use across political discourse, particularly amongst the less educated, is one of the prevailing issues in the discussion of theory as well as dissemination of theory to others across the world.

Words have meaning, power and orientation. Left-Right creates a dualistic, binary approach to thinking. And our thinking is primarily formed by the words we create and use to represent ideas.

Left-Right allows for very easy manipulation of political beliefs. You can effectively commit to large scale, cultural alchemy through the Left-Right paradigm, filtering out beliefs from one side to another, or entirely shading perceptions of people based on specific beliefs being "outside" their directional metaphor used to orientate their political beliefs.

Observe this most in the US, where US politics is so clearly fucked up with clear designations of "sides" with beliefs being held on either which side, and depending on the observe, they see one as "true" and one as "false".

This can be most notably seen in the following Burger wedge issues:

*Workers Rights/Working Class language used by Republicans

*Gun Rights, perception anyone of the left could NEVER been a gun owner or should never be (this should be alarming, btw) 2020 definitely has shooked this quietly though.

*"American Left" Effectively being center-right radlibs with huge social justice boners, partaking in performative acts as pressure release in bringing "historical justice"

*General beliefs around personal habits; average American leftist is a squawny shitstain, 0 sense of honor, no direct action cause muh toxic masculinity

The Left-Right paradigm very of politics, political compasses, and the usage of directional metaphors to categorize political beliefs is a mental spell on the collective mind of humanity that complete distorts discussions overall, especially once we get into the post WW2 modern era of politics, where these distortions really started to occur.

The strongest tool for the Left in the future in achieving or changing anything first occurs with the effective "Destruction" of the Left; The discarding of the Left-Right newspeak from our political discourse, and a total reframe of the nature and relation of the history of political science.
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Black people, Burgerstan, and bizarre sexual pathology

Please, please, please mods, this isn’t an idpol thread, I actually wanted to sort of analyze modern US racial ideology. Basically I wanna know….y’all got any theories as to why racism, both in the past and ESPECIALLY now seems so tied up with sexual pathology? For instance, a very popular porno genre in Burgertown is more or less endlessly playing out the Antebellum pathological fantasy of the slaves fucking the plantation owner’s wife. And adding to this is of course the way in Burgertown so many people (not even to say all or most Burgers) can’t just be attracted to someone of another race, it needs to be an entire pathological sexual obsession where they denigrate their own ethnicity while singing the praises of the fetish object with the fetish object still referred to as an OBJECT rather than a person. Shit in Burgertown like people getting shit from friends and family for dating someone of “le wrong colour”
Really, why is racism and racialism (that is, obsession with race essentialism but without the malice and hatred of real racism) so goddamned pathological in America? And AFAIK the level of sexual pathology attached to it really is a uniquely Burger phenomenon, like, holy fuck why can’t burgers just fuck someone that has a different skin tone without being insane about it?
Any thoughts?
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>wins a great victory against the nationalists
>wins a war against the USA

Ahh, surely this man will make a great leader

>fucks up collectivization

>creates hundred flowers campaign and then sanctions mass terror against all those who spoke out
>fucks up four pests campaign
>is largely responsible for the worst famine ever in world history
>creates a fuckton of useless pig iron
>decides okay maybe this politic stuff not so good for me I'm going to go have dance parties and bang teenagers for a few years
>country starts getting better
>ok I'm back now let's take all of the students out of school and sicc them on the party, all the way up to guy like Deng Xiaoping
>okay students need to be put down, time to send in the military
>Soviet Union was totally revisionist (I wasn't just mad that they didn't support me bombing Taiwan) so I broke the world communist movement in half, but America is cool let's be friends
>ok going to die now that I have made China great

Mao is everything people accuse Stalin of being. He managed to harm peasants, landlords, party members, and soldiers in the span of 20 years and
sold out to the USA before dying. He made people live in fear of struggle sessions for wrong think and created the largest cult in history.

That said I still respect him. But he's impossible to defend in good faith debate.
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state capitalism

What is the consensus on the "fact" that:
The party/state != Workers
That the eastern bloc and soviet union was state capitalist?

The state owned the means of production, and treated workers like under regular capitalism, but with more benefits.
Government is inherently capitalistic since it relies on a elite owning the means of production, the state must be abolished and individual communes should be established with democratic control over the MOP

I won't waste time by calling the USSR "fascistic" since that's obviously CIA bait, but you still shouldn't deny that the USSR didn't give the workers the MOP or give them complete control, it was just a vanguard party that allowed the exchange value and commodity production (capitalism) to flourish, just on a state level

Also, please please please dont think of this as a sect/idpol bait thread, this is just me trying to converse with other leftists/MLs and trying to understand what they think of it
vid unrelated
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"China is Imperialist"

This is the regional military commands of the United States and the regional military commands of the People's Republic of China.

Even if you think China has a couple examples of belligerent foreign policy, how do you think these are even remotely comparable?
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Meanwhile on bunkerchan….

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Why does Maoism always attract insane people? Cultural revolution, Khmer rouge, shining path etc
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Thoughts on leftcom
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Is America actually in terminal decline?

A common theme I hear on this site is that America is losing its hegemony and is on the brink of collapse. I generally agree with the former, but I am much more skeptical about the latter. The America has been through a lot of tough shit, like the Civil War, the Long Depression, the Great Depression, and World War II, but managed to get through all of those in one piece. It has also long been an incredibly stable nation in spite of these crises, and has never come close to "collapse". People say the end of the petrodollar resulting from the loss of American hegemony will spell the end of America, but all I see it doing is, at worst, causing a recession. As I said, America has already experienced some big economic crises, so I don't see how a petrodollar crisis would be any worse. There are also issues like Global Warming and the falling rate of profit, but those will hurt every country, not just America.

Disclaimer: I am American, so I am definitely biased here.
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Liberal Meets World

A thread for moments when liberals discover through research something painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain.

In today's episode, liberal academics, after undertaking several studies have found that wage is a more motivating factor for employment than company philanthropy. Furthermore, they found that wages are similarly better at motivating workers. These findings are sure to send shockwaves through the academic world.

>Corporate philanthropy is not as successful at attracting and motivating workers as several recent studies have shown, according to new research, with company charity often coming out of potential wages in order to avoid cutting into profits.

>In a study published in the March edition of Games and Economic Behavior, researchers found that higher wages are up to five times more effective at attracting employees than increased corporate philanthropy, and wages are similarly more effective at motivating workers to be more productive.
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Death Of American Empire

When future people are living in a bright socialist future and they're showed history textbooks of the American Empires decline they're going to think this is fake given how cartoonish stupid it is.
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Why did the Soviets stop at Berlin in 1945?

The Soviets proved capable of pushing back the Nazis, so why didn't they finish the job and push the remaining capitalist scum into the Atlantic Ocean? Even the British under Churchill knew that the Soviets could beat them in war, as is evidence in their plans for Operation Unthinkable. Besides, communism was popular in Western Europe at that time, so the Soviets would have been greeted as liberators
>b-but muh nukes
Nukes were much weaker at that time, and took a long time to make. Besides, a couple more bomb drops are a small price to pay for world communism.
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Joint Statement: Slander and threats against the Communist Party of Venezuela are unacceptable

>We reject any attempt to undermine the political rights of the PCV and the working class. In this sense, we demand that the government of President Nicolás Maduro stops the attacks and slander aimed at criminalizing the fair struggle of the PVC and the workers of Venezuela.


It is interesting to see, that many prominent communist parties refused to sign this letter, although they are technically all in organized in Solidnet. Vietnam, North Korea, China, Cuba…. why didn't they signed this statement?
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Year Zero (Abandon Marxism - Uphold Marx!)

Let us discuss a year zero for theory.
One of the many problems of the left today is the quasi-religious reverence in which figures from the past (and more to the point, their theories) are held. Instinctively, the left sets its compass by the writings of Marx and Lenin, usually with a good dose of Stalin and Mao, and with a sort of sense of kinship with Hoxha, Tito and the rest. Beyond the year 1985 one will scarcely find a left wing figure who attracts anywhere near such universal approval. (Find for example the debate as to whether China is the world's foremost pragmatist socialist state, or just the epitome of capitalist recuperation.)
The practical problem this raises is that in order for one's analyses to be taken seriously, the perceived need is to root them in the analysis performed by historical figures, not in economic reality or in usefulness for practical organizing. As soon as it is published there will inevitably be a sophist looking for ways in which it fails to accord with Marx instead of whether it truly accords with reality so that he can "debunk" your theory by appealing to the dead hand of a great man.

It can be a point of little contention that Marx was right about a great number of things - whether you want to say 40%, 60%, 80%, 95%, or 99% is of little importance. The problem is that it is an all but inevitable conclusion that he was also wrong about some things, or simply did not comment enough. The same is true to varying degrees about every other major historical figure, all of whom are dead, none of whom were seers. They had great insight, but those that followed have tended to be more like priests than fellow analysts.

And so the slogan: Abandon Marxism - Uphold Marx! (Which could be reframed for all figures: Abandon Leninism - Uphold Lenin!, Abandon Maoism - Uphold Mao!)
By which we mean a theoretical year zero: Drop everything you know and perform an analysis of conditions as they stand from scratch. Do not cross-check how it aligns with existing socialist theory, only cross check how it aligns with reality or aids in practical organization. By such a process, rigorously applied, the truth in what historical figures wrote will inevitably bubble to the top while whatever was false or neglected will be safely abandoned, no longer able to crop up again and again because an atheist bible studies lecturer was clout chasing.

There is a secondary advantage: Such a task is dry and boring. It is honest with itself about being hard work. It attracts those genuinely interested in theoretical questions about the structure of the economy in which we live and the ways in which we must work to change it. It does not attract those who are simply attracted to the aesthetics of dead countries, to revolution against their dictatorial mother and staid little town, or those looking for the perfect balance of coolness and pseudo intellectualism for their twitter profile. It calls out to people who want to understand imperialism is a flow of money and power rather than a shopping list for far flung flags. It is interminably gray and dull, honest work of the best kind without any of the posturing that defines the left today.
The theorists of today neither understand the world nor have any capacity to change it.

I advance this idea for discussion not because I believe it is practical - I am very skeptical one could successfully set up any kind of organization dedicated to research along these lines - but because I think the idea is theoretically appealing in the abstract considering the sheer amount of dead weight the left of today carries. It becomes very tempting to consider the possibilities for just ripping it all up and starting again. In a sense I am playing devil's advocate.
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Class character of the Myanmar Coup supporters


How many supporters do you think there actually are? Any thoughts on their class character?
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News 2/27/21

Philippine critics in firing line of anti-communist misinformation war
Cristina Palabay, head of rights group Karapatan, says she fears for her life after 13 of the watchdog's members were killed under Duterte. The most recent victim was Zara Alvarez, who was "heavily red-tagged" before she was gunned down in August. Palabay said she no longer sleeps in the same location on consecutive nights, avoids shopping malls and even stopped visiting her parents after receiving anonymous death threats.

NPA Kill 5 AFP Soldiers During Encounter In Misamis Occidental Province
At around 12 noon on January 30, 2021, an NPA-Misamis Occidental squad engaged in a firefight with army forces belonging to the 10th IB PA in Brgy. Beyond, Don Victoriano, Misamis Occidental. Five (5) AFP soldiers were killed during the battle, of which 4 were regulars and 1 was a member of the CAA and had injuries.

Chilean Communists reject government plan for La Araucania
In a four-point statement, the PC notes that already in 2018 the government proposed something similar with a known 'Plan impulso Araucania' (Boosting plan for Araucania), which only left a balance of 'pain, deaths and systematic violations to the Human Rights of the Mapuche people,' under the never confirmed excuse of the existence of terrorism in the region.

Calls for Colombian riot police to be disbanded after protester loses eye in clashes
CALLS are growing for Colombia’s special riot squad to be disbanded after a 24-year-old man lost his left eye during a protest against police violence in the capital Bogota earlier this week. Gareth Steven was injured when the Mobile Anti-Riot Squadron (Esmad) went on the rampage, attacking a peaceful demonstration and seriously injuring at least four people.

WATCH Greek police fire tear gas into metro station amid protests in support of jailed far-left hitman
Footage from the scene shows the police and the angry crowd engaging in a shoving match at a metro station entrance. The authorities deployed irritant gases as they tried to push the protesters into the station. The demonstrators, in turn, doused the police with a fire extinguisher.

Putin, Biden Should Aim for More Arms Curbs – Gorbachev
Former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev on Saturday urged Russian President Vladimir Putin and new U.S. President Joe Biden to push for deeper restrictions on nuclear weapons. Tensions soared between the two nations under previous U.S. leader Donald Trump, fuelled by allegations of sweeping cyberattacks and a litany of other disagreements.

India: BJP’s rise in former communist bastion has Muslims worried
the communal amity in this once communist bastion seems to have frayed, particularly after Hindu right-wing groups started to push a hardline agenda. Analysts say right-wing Hindu groups linked to the BJP have used religious mobilisation for celebrations such as Ram Navami, which marks the birthday of the Hindu Lord Ram, for political gains.

Liverpool councillors to discuss emergency ballot on Labour's barring of three mayoral candidates
AN EMERGENCY motion over the barring of three women from running to be Labour’s candidate for mayor of Liverpool will be discussed on Saturday by councillors. Councillor and Lord Mayor Anna Rothery, Acting Mayor Cllr Wendy Simon and former deputy mayor Cllr Ann O’Byrne were removed from the ballot earlier this week.

Armenia’s president refuses order to dismiss military chief
President Armen Sarkissian sent the order back to Pashinyan on Saturday, saying he could not give approval because he considered parts of the decree to be in violation of the constitution. It was not immediately clear if Pashinyan would try to revise the order.

Pakistan expert: Religiosity aiding spike in militancy
“Unfortunately, instead of helping to inculcate better ethics and integrity, this phenomenon is encouraging a tunnel vision” that encourages violence, intolerance and hate, he wrote recently in a local newspaper. “Religiosity has begun to define the Pakistani citizenry.”

French government rejects lockdown as UK variant becomes dominant strain
In a joint televised address on Thursday evening, French Prime Minister Jean Castex and Health Minister Olivier Véran admitted that more recent and more contagious variants now make up the majority of cases in France. Nonetheless, Castex rejected calls by scientists for a nationwide lockdown, declaring that “we have to push it back as far as we can.”

Gigantic iceberg 20 times the size of Manhattan breaks off from Antarctica (VIDEO)
Such ‘calving’ events are part of the normal life cycle of polar ice shelves and there is currently no evidence that climate change played a role, according to researchers from the British Antarctic Survey (BAS). Dramatic footage shot by a BAS surveillance aircraft shows the extent of the vast chasm that opened up and eventually broke through the shelf on Friday.
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News 2/26/21

Death toll update | 22 militiamen of Iraqi Hezbollah and Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces in US strikes on Syria-Iraq border
22 militiamen of the Iraqi Hezbollah and Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces, mostly of the Iraqi Hezbollah, were killed in the US aerial attacks on their positions and a weapons shipment at the time when it was crossing from Iraq to Syria, via a military crossing near Al-Qa’em crossing in Al-Bokamal area in the eastern countryside of Deir Ezzor.

Iran-backed Iraqi factions seeking de-escalation after US attack
However, it is unlikely that the Iranian-backed armed factions will respond to this latest attack inside Iraq, commanders told MEE. The factions are ostensibly supposed to be observing an unofficial truce with US forces, which was ordered by Iran.

‘Compulsory vaccination’: Moscow Communist MP takes aim at mayor for ending pensioners' free transport until they get Covid-19 jab
“The mayor's decree violates the rights of citizens of the city of Moscow over 65 years of age to discount travel on public transport by blocking social cards,” Rashkin wrote in a letter to the General Prosecutor. “For a long time, pensioners have not been able to use public transport [making them] cut off from life, or are forced to buy a Troika card to pay their fare.”

China’s Communist Party revisits the past to regroup for future
A new campaign to educate China about Communist Party history is meant to be a rallying point to consolidate support for its policies and loyalty to the leadership, according to analysts. While the campaign covers the party’s history since its founding in 1921, it would focus on the “historic successes” achieved since 2012, the year Xi became the country’s leader.

Opposition to Putin’s Re-Election Hits Post-Crimea High – Poll
More Russians are opposed to President Vladimir Putin’s re-election today than at any other point since the 2014 annexation of Crimea, an independent survey said Friday. According to the Levada Center polling agency, 41% of Russian respondents said they would not like Putin, 68, to remain president beyond 2024, while 48% said they would.

Labour to state 'non-negotiable' support for UK's nuclear weapons
Labour’s commitment to maintaining the UK’s nuclear weapons is “non-negotiable”, the party’s shadow defence minister, John Healey, is expected to say in a speech on Friday, emphasising a deliberate shift in tone from the Jeremy Corbyn era.

Surge in Covid-related attacks on staff at London station must be stopped, says RMT
The union is demanding immediate steps from operator Southeastern following a string of assaults at Lewisham station, with one staff member left fearful of returning to work after being spat at twice and assaulted three times.

Myanmar envoy appeals to UN to stop coup as police break up protests
An envoy for Myanmar’s ousted government called on the United Nations to use “any means necessary” to stop a military coup on Friday, as police cracked down on anti-junta protesters with rubber bullets and stun grenades.

Arab man accused of passing Israeli missile defense information to Hamas
Hamas allegedly recruited Abu Adra to their military wing to provide them with “unique and high-quality access to Israeli territory and carrying out missions for them,” including having “collected and provided information” on Israel’s Iron Dome anti-missile batteries.

Iraq: Protesters killed in clashes with security forces in Nasiriyah
Three Iraqi demonstrators were killed on Friday in clashes with security forces in the southern city of Nasiriyah, as anti-government protests continued for another day. Medics told AFP the deaths brought to five the number of demonstrators killed over the past week in the city, while dozens of people have also been injured in the violence.

Amnesty report describes Axum massacre in Ethiopia's Tigray
Soldiers from Eritrea systematically killed “many hundreds” of people, the large majority men, in a massacre late November in the Ethiopian city of Axum in the Tigray region, Amnesty International said Friday. The new report echoed the findings of an Associated Press story last week and cited more than 40 witnesses.

Gunmen kidnap more than 300 schoolgirls in increasingly lawless northwest Nigeria
It was the second such kidnapping in little over a week in a region increasingly targeted by militants and criminal gangs. There was no immediate claim of responsibility. Police in Zamfara state said they had begun search-and-rescue operations with the army to find the “armed bandits” who took the 317 girls from the Government Girls Science Secondary School in the town of Jangebe.
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How can I reorient my politics away from hatred and anger at anticommunists?

I feel lost
As of late I have been consumed by rage and hatred; I truly hate the anticommunists, the liberals, the fascists, the capitalists; I want each and every one of them to suffer immensely for their crimes against the proletariat and the colonized around the world. I want them to scream. But I know this is not the point of communism. I know being consumed by rage like this is foolish and wrong, a product of the violent nihilism underpinning American culture. I want to change, I want to embrace the true meaning of socialism, I want to orient away from my hatred at the enemies of workers towards love for the working class; hatred may burn strong but it consumes and destroys, love burns ever brighter and replenishes and builds upon itself. How can I embrace what the true communists did, rather than this nihilistic aggression?
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is the UK a "managed democracy"?

>A dominance of the media and civil society by the state and establishment, both through formal control of organisations, and through the control of media companies by wealthy individuals connected to the state.

>The creation of a strata of professionalised govt officials, with little barrier between employment in the public sphere and the private.

>A formal and informal suppression of participation in the electoral process. Both direct ballot stuffing, and less direct methods such as delegitimisation of the opposition, general voter disincentivization, and commercialisation of electoral processes.

>A reliance on, and incorporation into the state and establishment of interest groups, usually though appeals to nationalism, religious, or ethnic identity, but also through patronage based on the last shreds of austerity-hit welfare or nationalised industry.

>An insistence on the part of the establishment on government through dealmaking and technocratic management at the highest levels.

>Spectacle and nostalgic display being highly instrumentalized and cynically leveraged in order to deflect from government missteps, or to justify present policy.

>Additionally, a simultaneous employment of an instrumentalised form of cynicism and detachment from the state and society.

>The universalisation of corruption, and the common knowledge of such.

>If we are to compare to the United Kingdom, we can see that almost all of these characteristics are present in some form within British society.

Full Article: https://newmultitude.org/is-the-uk-a-managed-democracy/
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Yakov Sverdlov

Any good reading on him? He seems like a very important and highly regarded Bolshevik but because he died young and early in the history of Soviet power he seems somewhat forgotten.
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Anti-Sectarianism: Anarcho-Third-Worldism

Shouldn't third worldists and first world anarchists be natural allies? Doesn't the third worldist want to destabilize the imperial core to undermine imperialism? Would not the anarchists in the imperial core (irrespective of whether they can actually build anything) help that goal of third worldists? And furthermore isn't imperialism the chief hierarchy in the world today and the one deserving the strongest and most direct opposition by anarchists?

Are these sects actually at odds with each other or are (some of) their adherents simply more emotionally invested in posturing and purity politics than the real movement?
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New Constitution

The Constitution for the New Socialist Republic in North America provides a sweeping vision and concrete blueprint for such a radically different economic system, and for government institutions, laws and a legal system, as well as an approach to education, science, art and culture that go along with this mode of production and contribute to its continual development, opening the way to finally eliminating all oppression and exploitation.5 And in Why We Need An Actual Revolution And How We Can Really Make Revolution (as well as other works of mine) the basic strategy is spelled out for carrying out the revolution that will make it possible to apply this Constitution in working to bring about a world free of all the unnecessary suffering and madness to which the masses of humanity are subjected under the domination of this system of capitalism-imperialism.
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Mao Appreciate Thread

I will die on this hill
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Are Western WWII histories specifically written with rehabilitating the Nazis in mind?

It seems like almost every POS western WWII history I read through goes out of its way to make lengthy dissertations discussing how the Wehrmacht cunts were actually beautiful angels nobly defending their country who were forced to do bad by the wicked mean SS, while the Red Army were largely composed of either savage brutes or virtual prisoners forced by pain of death to fight. They will claim the Red Army had utterly inferior tactics and inferior technology and only achieved victory by throwing so much bodies at machine guns that the Germans ran out of bullets.
I’m guessing the intent here is to subtly rehabilitate fascism to ensure Westoids will always side with a new Reich over communist liberation, yes?
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The idea of progress is a core foundation of leftism and especially in scientific socialism. I have some questions:
1. Can you actually be a leftist, if you reject the idea of progress?
2. If you believe in progress, then there must be civilizations which are more progressive than others.
3. According to this logic, aren't less progressive civilizations inferior?
4. Isn't it then justified for progressive civilizations to embrace chauvinism towards less progressive civilizations?

I have the feeling something is wrong with my conclusion. Can somebody explain me, where my error is in my thinking?
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How effective was the Wehrmacht as a fighting force?

I usually get shit from all around the board, from absolute dogshit, to the most effective military in the world in 1939; it’s either the extreme that the army was incredibly effective and their tactics (not strategy) was brilliant; other times I get that Hitler was just lucky because France went full retard, Britain was caught with their pants down, and the Soviets just didn’t think the Germans would be dumb enough to invade when they did. Which is it? Were the Red Army truly underdogs like Rocky Balboa, or was their victory always entirely assured?
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/leftybritpol/ - Jacobite United Front edition

My love was born in Aberdeen,
The bonniest kid that e'er was seen;
But now he makes our hearts fu' sad—
He's ta'en the field wi' his white cockade.
O, he's a ranting, roving blade!
⁠O, he's a brisk and a bonny lad!
Betide what may, my heart is glad
To see my lad wi' his white cockade.

But seriously tho when do we found a Left-Jacobite Party like they have Left-Carlists in Spain.
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Read Nancy Fraser

Her take on modern capitalism is brilliant.

Out of the collision of these two sets of struggles there emerged a surprising result: a ‘progressive’ neoliberalism, which celebrates ‘diversity’, meritocracy and ‘emancipation’ while dismantling social protections and re-externalizing social reproduction. The result is not only to abandon defenceless populations to capital’s predations, but also to redefine emancipation in market terms.
Emancipatory movements participated in this process. All of them—including anti-racism, multiculturalism, lgbt liberation, and ecology—spawned market-friendly neoliberal currents. But the feminist trajectory proved especially fateful, given capitalism’s longstanding entanglement of gender and social reproduction.
Like each of its predecessor regimes, financialized capitalism institutionalizes the production–reproduction division on a gendered basis. Unlike its predecessors, however, its dominant imaginary is liberal-individualist and gender-egalitarian—women are considered the equals of men in every sphere, deserving of equal opportunities to realize their talents, including—perhaps especially—in the sphere of production. Reproduction, by contrast, appears as a backward residue, an obstacle to advancement that must be sloughed off, one way or another, en route to liberation.
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Alexander Dugin

So I am in the midst of reading the Fourth Political Theory by him and while I obviously don't agree with his conclusions, I can see some truth in his Criticism of the Ideologies of the 20th Century.
So can someone who knows a bit about Dugin tell me, if there is some merit for Communist to read him or if he is just a paid shill by Putinist Oligarchy
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Anarchism is a good thing in the west

I'm an ML-Cockshottist but i think its a good thing to promote anarchism in the west (as long as its REAL anarchism), especially in burgerland.

When i say real anarchism I mean ancom which actually believes in the LTV/exploitation, and in achieving full communism. You also need ancoms to call out the socdem/marksoc/FBI simps who claim to be anarchist.

Finally, I think anything which destabilizes and degrades the west's military/intelligence power is a good thing. Therefore based tendencies like insurrectionary anarchism and illegalism should also be pushed. We need something like late 2000s/early 2010s hacktivism/anonymous culture but on steroids x1000.

Anarchism also has better optics because people won't be spooked by Soviet style boogyman that still lives rent free in the western (and especially BURGER) mind.

The only problem with anarchism is that

1) it won't actually be able to overthrow capitalism successfully, and
2) its appropriated by grifting retards who will not be named here who shill marksoc and Socdem/Bernie/Democratic party bullshit and try to call that anarchism. Also
3) they piss off Dengists/MLs by criticizing China, but IMO this part doesn't matter because it really has no influence. It's not like anarchists will start supporting the american government to own the Chinese or something (except grifting fake anarchists like horsecock man). So even if they criticize China its not like it actually matters other than pissing off western Dengist larpers.

The upside is that decentralization makes it harder to crack down. See: antifa which, contrary to popular belief, not all anons here actually like or support, nevertheless have managed to avoid law enforcement crackdown due to lack of centralization.

The other upside is adventurism - unlike a democratic centralist ML party, they can do small actions which actually stir shit up, small adventurist cliques can do the classic (smash a starbucks window or w/e). The George Floyd protests showed how much damage smashies can do, now imagine if that was ideologically motivated. I'd like to see smashies try to smash wall street or something, like an ultra-blackbloc version of occupy wall street or the capitol riots but for the major banks on wall street. I'd like to see anarcho-hacktivist cliques hack the glow in the darks and reveal all their undercover agents on the public internet. I'd like to see politicians and CEO's doxxed and their social security numbers stolen, police departments across america have their computer systems ransomed for cryptocurrency to fund even more smashie shit.
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Occult and Politics

What do you guys think of the recent rise of occult in politics?

I notice that the right seems to be more willing to embrace this than the left does even tho there are just as much occultists on the left as on the right

Your takes?
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Are you just an online leftist or do you actually organize as well?
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Opinions on picrel?
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Dengist theory

Are there any sources on modern Chinese Marxism which have actually been translated into english? Who are the actual thinkers in the CCP and how do they justify their countrys policies from a Marxist perspective?
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The western left is useless. Stop being useless, Deliver The Goods.

The western left as it exists today is completely unfit for purpose. Worse, it is composed of people who each believe that they have all the answers, when in fact all they have is fantasies. These fantasies take many forms, from the naive to the inane, from "The Third World will fix society for me!" to "And then one day, as if by magic, Americans simply rose up and overthrew the bourgeoisie and established FALC."
Countless hours are spent on displacement activities. People will argue as though it as a matter of life and death that Khrushchev's legacy be defended, that a shitposting thread on /leftypol/ takes the correct line on critically supporting North Korea, that people understand that you cannot vote your way to communism, and so on. People who have no means of conducting either reform or revolution will argue furiously for one or the other. This is an insane state of affairs. The left purportedly has ends, but it has no means.

I am here to tell you now that your ends mean nothing, because you have no means to achieve them. More importantly, I am going to suggest to you the basic means necessary to achieve anything.

First, a simple point: Communism is "the real movement which abolishes the present state of things". It is not "the theoretical movement that abolishes the present state of things." you can read every book in the Marxist canon, and if all you do is sit around reading a lot of books then your achievement will be no more meaningful than if you had read all the books of the bible. The left must be judged on what it achieves in the real world, and not on what clever ideas it has.
Second, a further point: It is important to grasp the paltry achievements of the western left in any of our lifetimes. You may want to live in a society on the Soviet model, but you're as likely to get that in the US Democratic party as you are in any of the rump Communist parties that litter the west today. Not because the Democrats are going to reform their way to socialism, but because the newspaper hawkers and front-group founders (yes, I know, "those are trotskyist stereotypes!") are never going to deliver on that goal. It is simply beyond them. It is like setting the goal of getting to the moon and choosing a bicycle as your means of getting there. Working people are never - not in any permutation of history, not in any alternate timeline - going to spontaneously recognise them as the vanguard and install them to power. The idea that one day in a matter of moments working people will organise themselves and revolt is itself a fantasy, barring situations where you stack fantasy upon fantasy. (What if America suffered a 1917 style military defeat in my lifetime..?)

So, in that light, what is to be done? You've told me that my current means are unfit for purpose, so how do I achieve leftist ends?
Simply stated the left must be re-organised upon a core principle:

What does this mean? It means delivering actual immediate improvements in the lives of working people. Workers have better things to do in their time off than go along to a tedious Kapital reading session surrounded by middle glass students, aging stalinists, and in the British Trotskyist case, at least one convicted sex pest. On the other hand, workers have immediate interests in organisations that can offer them material improvements in their lives, and which have a proven track record of doing so - in short, organisations that [b]DELIVER THE GOODS.[/b]

What organisations deliver the goods? Contrary to the flag, and doubtless to the first few replies from those who stopped reading 1600 characters ago, I do not mean electoral politics. There are practical and fundamental reasons for this. Practical: The left is so unfit for purpose that it can't win elections anyway. Fundamental: Measuring whether or not an elected politician has delivered the goods is actually very difficult. (Imagine, for example, that a Labour government were to build 1,500,000 new houses in Britain. It would on the national level have undoubtedly delivered an improvement in the situation, but if your city got no new houses during that period - well, local workers would have good reason to be upset.)

So, what are some examples of the sort of organisations do have the capacity to deliver the goods?
Tenants Unions
Trade Unions (especially in workplaces that are not yet unionised, outwith the structure of the large extant unions)
Mutual Aid organisations

In each case, these set themselves quite specific goals and can be measured by their success and by their failure. Generally speaking, they also serve to actually empower working people, rather than subsuming them to a self-appointed "vanguard" who couldn't lead a dog, let alone a revolution. More importantly, these have a proven track record of successful existence. They are not a neat theoretical idea that worked once in some far flung feudal society, they are organisations that exist right now and which can be expanded and integrated. (This would be the natural path: to co-ordinate various separate organisations so that people know where they can turn to fight for improvements in each area of their life, rather than having relatively isolated organisations fighting for each particular, without falling into the organisational risks of giving a small number of people control over the entire thing.)

Now here's the downside, the thing nobody wants to hear: These things take work. They are often boring, they are not always fun like a good argument about the best mechanism for central planning the socialist society you have no means of brining about. But if you ever want to live in any kind of society better than the one we currently inhabit, someone's going to have to do these things. You can theorise this away if you want to, but you cannot strip away the underlying reality.
And here's the part you really don't want to hear: I am not proposing front groups. A tenants union must be a tenants union, for the benefit of the tenants within it. If you allow that goal to be subsumed to trying to strip off some members and money for your Stalinist Society then you will not only fail to ever achieve your own aims, you will jeopardise the aims of people far purer hearted than yourself. The fundamental axiom is "Deliver the Goods", it is not "Deliver some goods to get their trust, then rob them blind."

And that is the trap that must be avoided: The left must commit itself to the building of an actual working class movement. It must avoid the Scylla of becoming pure charity and the Charybdis of opportunism. It must commit itself to continued pressure for a better society, without falling into the trap of impotently theorising about a better society it will never have the capacity to build.
There is a tendency to imagine a trade-off here: "Fight to stop a few people losing their flats, or fight for socialism!", but you are not "fighting for socialism" when you go off to sell Trotskyist newspapers. You are not "fighting for socialism" by arguing on Twitter. You are not "fighting for socialism" when you read Marx. You are engaging in displacement activity, you are flicking your light switch and telling yourself it is the lever in the trolley problem. To even have the opportunity to fight for socialism requires a working class movement, and that is something that must be built.

And what, indeed, if such a plan didn't deliver socialism? What if your country wound up filled with mutual aid organisations, yet remained a capitalist country in 2080? Would that be a failure? Perhaps, but if, at the end of the day this strategy were to achieve nothing than marginally improving the lives of a few hundred million people a year it would nevertheless have achieved more in the real world than every academic leftist argument in the entirety of the English language.

Post-Soviet leftists have hitherto only interpreted the world in various ways; the point is to change it. Not overnight, in one fantastic from capitalism to socialism, but atop countless minor acts of bringing together a working class movement.
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after the usa is gone who will defend capitalism? my guess is china will defend capitalism while pretending not to.
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Being a Leftist and Liking Hitler Same time

Why Everyone calls me a nazi while i use wehraboo humour in ocassions like memes or jokes im somehow likely a Nazbol tier or something. I only like hitler for his biography but i do hate him for his imperialism.And also i love prussian marches (specially with NVA) and nazi occultism.
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Even if you imperialist pieces of shit win, nature will wipe you out
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Why don’t burgers deserve pain?

Need a good explanation for why the Amerifat masses shouldn’t just suffer at this point
They’re still utterly classcucked even now that the mask is off and porky reveals he will devour them all
So fuck the burgers, my countrymen deserve suffering and pain, fuck em, fuck em
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Is China Imperialist?

This Filipino communist argues that Chinese loans are unrepayable due to infrastructure design choices that cater price jacking and builds of this point to explain how they're by definition imperialist. Does /leftypol/ agree or disagree, and why?
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To the dedicated Vietnamese Poster(s)

I know we at the very least we have one very dedicated Vietnamese poster who seems very critical of his own countries government and so on in regards to it not being a socialist state.

Could you post an explanation of the reasons you dislike the CPV's current course and what you think they could do to correct it? / If there are any particularly still "based" individuals in the Vietnamese government that are preventing it degrading to China levels?
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Is anyone else noting a schism forming in the left?

>DSA leadership + AOC

>Jan 6 insurrection/coup, right wingers are fascists

<don't demonize the right, engage with them

>infrared haven't read marx. it's all wrong

<let's engage with the ideas

I'd characterize the split as
>hyperreal leftism
<concrete leftism

In my local org, I'm seeing a similar split.

What do you think? Is it a significant split around the world's left?
Is it a tendency that is emerging? What side do you take?
What are your criticisms for the other side?
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Rick Wiles 2024

Is this the next LaRouche?
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/AHG/ - Alternate History General

Post your favorite alternate history scenarios and maps, particularly those that pertain to socialism.
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Was he really trying to overthrow the Soviet state?
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Why are almost all the commie subs on Reddit simultaneously Mao simps and Dengoids?

Do they not understand the inherent contradiction in stanning Mao but also stanning the PRC which represents pretty much everything he criticized in the USSR but much worse and also exactly what he was trying to destroy with the Cultural Revolution?
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Is socialism/communism inevitable?

Or is this just a red version of Whig history?
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Esoteric Hitlerism General: AFAP Edition (ALL FASCISTS ARE PEDOS)

This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.

To sum up, as it says in the title, this entire strand of thought is more or less an intelligence operation carried out mostly by pedophiles, with a strong satanic/ esoteric influence. On top of this, there are several interesting connections to these operations and operatives and Zionism.

The purpose of these operations, as are the purpose of all CIA operations, is to suppress and destroy the real movement that abolishes the present state of things, the mass movement organised workers, the socialist and communist movement.

What follows is a series of links, references and thoughts which document this feature of capitalist hegemony.

Link to last thread archive:


The thread from which it was born:


If anybody has the thread inbetween those archived that would be wonderful, all the info is copied into that first link but some of the discussion was good and bants.

Fresh Material courtesy of a Based Anon:



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What class position are you and/or your family from? Both in Marxist and Weberian/modern sociological terms?

Marxist classes: porky/capitalist, petit bourgeois, pmc/labor aristocrat, prole, lumpen
Modern "sociology" classes: See picrel for burgerland version, probably similar in other countries
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Michael Parenti THREAD

He is a treasure. I was thus far more intersted on what he has to say about the media and contemporary capitalism, but his work on Roman history is also great. Am just watching his lecture on the assasination of Ceasar.


Say something nice about Michael Parenti.
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Development of African civilizations

I had a conversation on here with someone who seemed to know very interesting theories on the development of African tribes/civilizations from an environmental/geographical/material standpoint. Can you guys recommend me any related literature to that?

And on a side note, what is your opinion on environmental determinism? What are the strength and flaws of that theory?
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Tfw SEP unironically tries pretending like they have more value than the Black Panthers

Gotta say, this is the most sickening Weird Sex Web Site article I’ve read, these fuckers actually have the nerve to try arguing that the true revolutionary programme of the 1960s and 70s was not the global anti-colonial struggle, but some fucking newspaper shilling cunts nobody ever heard of who are of course connected to their own party
Tbh WSWS anon should get banned, fuck these people
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AI planned economy

what do you think about an AI planned economy? is it a good idea, is it too dangerous or what?
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Great Man Theory

What exactly is wrong with it? Hegel believed in great man theory?

How is it not true that the masses are passive dullards and it's really a few great inventors, scientists, generals, kings, presidents, etc. who actually make history?

Without maybe less than 12 different scientists in history we would still be in caves and huts smacking each other over the head with clubs and pissing in a circle.

Without Roman generals like Scipio in the third punic war, Carthage would have BTFO Rome and western civilization and thus world history would have been totally different, as Carthage not Rome would have become the med superpower.
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Maoism outdated

If Maoism is based on organizing peasants and rural people, isn't it outdated now that urbanization is increasing and the majority of the worlds population, even third worlders, are now living in cities? Has the historical window of opportunity for Maoism just passed? Mao could never do his revolution that way today..

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"Assad Must Go!" Collection

Post your Assad memes here… This was around half of what I could find on the depository
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Riddle me this guys....

/Leftypol/ loves China and sees it as communism in action and /pol/ nazis also love china and see it as basically the 4th reich. who is correct? are you both right? inb4 mods will delete this because they are cowards scared of open discussion
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Jack Lang was a famous labour party premier in great depression new south Wales and was extremely popular for doing the following.

>During his first term as Premier, Lang carried out many social programmes, including state pensions for widowed mothers with dependent children under fourteen, a universal and mandatory system of workers' compensation for death, illness and injury incurred on the job, funded by premiums levied on employers, the abolition of student fees in state-run high schools and improvements to various welfare schemes such as child endowment

>Lang also restored the seniority and conditions to New South Wales Government Railways and New South Wales Government Tramways workers who had been sacked or demoted after the General Strike of 1917

>He passed laws restricting the rights of landlords to evict defaulting tenants, and insisted on paying the legal minimum wage to all workers on relief projects.
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/sad/ - South Asia & Desi General

General discussion on current events/politics from Pakistan to Bhutan.

There are a few of us here, make yourself known!

Everyone is welcome and feel free to ask questions. Nobody really talks about the Indian left here and it would be great if anons had the chance to learn a bit more!
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Bourgeois Feminism

>Most of those bourgeois women who act like lionesses in the struggle against "male prerogatives" would trot like docile lambs in the camp of conservative and clerical reaction if they had suffrage. - Rosa Luxemburg

Comrade-anons what is to be done about the BFQ (the bourgeois feminism question)?
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getting a government jerb

Burger post -

If I apply to work at a government job that requires a security clearance, how will it turn out? I was a public communist in college so if they ask about that I'm screwed. But the only jobs they are recruiting for in the area (in engineering) is based on having a clearance.

also I was in a Marxist 'militia' but we never really did anything other than argue and read books
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Compared to all other empires to have existed, would you say the British were the most good?

Obviously no empire is good, and yet only the British Empire spread ideals of freedom, equality, and prosperity; people discuss the crimes of the empire, but how are they worse than the crimes of any other empire? Did not the Romans destroy all of Carthage and make the lands un-harvestable? Did not the Spanish utterly wipe out entire civilizations, invent the entire concept of race, and also (alongside the Portuguese) invent the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade? After all, the British were just trying to survive in the face of Spanish and Portuguese Imperialism. And the British also did destroy the slave markets in the end, of all people in history the British Empire were the first to abhor the scourge of slavery and the first to destroy it so utterly that it can no longer be conducted on any legal basis. The British also spread industrialization thus creating the modern world, and even in their colonial conquests they stated they were trying to uplift people unlike all others who justified their crimes with “Muh God muh savages”. Weren’t the British, therefore, the least bad of all the capitalist empires? Just look at the Japanese and Germans, they intentionally tried killing as many people as they possibly could largely just to kill them; look at the Americans who were the chief architects of the destruction of socialism and worker’s rights all over the world.
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Russia & NRx

Is modern Russia basically a Neoreactionary state? Does Brezhnevism lead to NRx?
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Green capitalism isn't politically viable

Capitalism is simply incompatible with environmentalism. If you had green capitalism it would be neo malthusian and incredibly unpopular because in order to sustain the level of inequality produced by capitalism it would have to degrade workers living standards. The only politically viable green system is one that compensates falling living standards due to cutbacks for environmental purposes. Again, this is just on the political level, assuming a truly green capitalism is even practically possible, which again is also pretty dubious. But even if it were it would be so unpopular as to make it politically impossible. In order to have an actual green economy which the majority will buy, it will have to cut off excess consumption of the upper classes.
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We won, you lost
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Acid Communism

Ca someone tell me, wft this is about and if it is worth looking into
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Torquemada syndrome

Torquemada syndrome is a phenomenon that manifests itself as a vicious hatred for jewish population from people who are themselves of jewish origin.

Tomás de Torquemada was a Castilian Dominican friar and first Grand Inquisitor in Spain's movement to homogenise religious practices with those of the Catholic Church in the late 15th century, otherwise known as the Spanish Inquisition.

Torquemada, who himself had converso ancestors, was one of the chief supporters of the Alhambra Decree that expelled the Jews from Spain in 1492.
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News 2/25/21

Xi Jinping declares China free of absolute poverty
He considered that China stands as a benchmark and contributes to the global crackdown on poverty, because 98.99 million individuals and the 832 most disadvantaged rural counties in the country have improved living conditions in the last eight years.

Armenia: Armed Forces Call for Resignation of Prime Minister
"Rumors are spreading that we intend to flee… But we are here," Pashinyan said as he walked down one of the main streets of the capital city Yerevan." The army is subordinate to the people and the Prime Minister. The people are in charge… That's why I invite you to gather in Republic Square. It will be as you say," he stressed.

Israel: Satellite images show secretive nuclear facility undergoing major revamp
A secretive nuclear facility at the centre of Israel's undeclared atomic weapons programme is undergoing what appears to be its biggest construction phase in decades, satellite photos analysed by the Associated Press (AP) have revealed.

Police pelted with stones, garbage dumpsters set alight in Catalonia’s 9th night of riots over jailed rapper Pablo Hasel (VIDEOS)
Police said protesters were brandishing fire extinguishers, and urged locals to stay away from “violent groups” near an art school in the town for their own safety. Protests also took place in the Catalan town of Manresa to the north of Barcelona, where crowds gathered near a police station and reportedly hurled firecrackers at officers’ vans.

Pro-army mob attacks anti-coup protesters in Myanmar
Protesters against the military takeover outside Yangon’s Central Railway station then began jeering the marchers, who attacked them with slingshots, stones, iron bars and knives. Phone footage shows a man being stabbed and police standing watching the violence without intervening.

Violence in Kiev sees 27 cops injured as protesters come out against court decision to lock up far-right nationalist Sternenko
Twenty-seven Ukrainian policemen were injured in clashes on Kiev’s central Bankova Street, on Tuesday night, after a demonstration against the imprisonment of far-right Odessa activist Sergey Sternenko descended into violence. According to media reports, more than a thousand people gathered near the Presidential Administration and were met with tear gas.

Venezuela expels head of EU delegation after new sanctions
Venezuela expelled the head of the European Union’s delegation in Caracas, Foreign Minister Jorge Arreaza announced on Wednesday, in response to fresh sanctions imposed by the EU. Speaking on national Venezuelan television, Arreaza said Isabel Brilhante had 72 hours to leave the country.

Chile: Top Court Overrides Decision Banning Police's Riot Guns
The Supreme Court ruled that the protection recourses filed by human rights defenders were not "the appropriate way" to rule on the legality of the police's actions, including the use of certain equipment to contain the demonstrations.

Gas to Gaza? The pipeline that might provide a lifeline
Talks on a gas pipeline that would cross political faultlines and deliver reliable energy to the impoverished Gaza Strip have moved from the abstract to the concrete in recent weeks, three officials with knowledge of the process told Reuters.

Electric workers occupy EDF Energy offices over plans to hire untrained workers
WORKERS across Britain occupied the offices of EDF energy today over its plan to hire untrained electricians to carry out work at Hinkley Point nuclear power station. The electricians have accused their bosses of “multi-skilling” at the site in Bridgwater, where the station is being built at an estimated cost of £22.5 billion.
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Whatabout Whataboutism?

Is whataboutism a valid logical fallacy or just a way to control the flow of debate? Does it really give us a closer step to attaining the truth? Let's suppose this scenario:

1 American: The Soviet Union has human rights abuses
2 Soviet: America still has Jim crow

Why do people use whataboutism?
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Why anarchism has develloped in indonesia ?

It seems his images come from the struggles of farm workers.I saw MLs say that anarchism was a COINTELPRO plot and that was why there was no anarchism outside of the 1st world, so it reminded me of that. Anyone, how is this movement developed? How did he appear?
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Read Mobley

picrel was an analyst at the CIA who wrote a doctoral dissertation examining various terrorist and revolutionary organizations and concluded the centralized orgs had a better chance of surviving.

Its an interesting take on counterintelligence and OPSEC from a non marxist perspective, and ultimately from a guy who was an expert from the natsec community.

IMO marxists should engage more with literature like this.
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Yea or Nay ? I keep hearing about it from from the most random people ,from recycling succdems to anti civs
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Whenever you point out how schizo and bad the right is they'll sperg about antifa/blm are even worse and therefore the right needs to lash back to fight against it.

How do you respond to this argument?
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If we don't end capitalism within 10-15 years, the climate will start going into a vicious nosedive that will lead to climate apocalypse and the human race will be dead within 100-200 years no matter what we do at that point. Literally just the eco-pilled version of "Children of Men", the final hour of humanity in a disaster capitalist "barbaric" mode of production, which IMO is way more likely than socialism/communism or even porky's great reset bullshit even standing a chance.

Maybe a few porkies will survive on a space station or something but I doubt it

song unrelated https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABQjT6gDKu0
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What explains the right's bizarre obsession with conspiracy theories? What caused them to be so detached from reality? Every other week there's a new conspiracy from them about satanists and demons or witches or whatever. I recognize that this is a symptom of America's political retardation, but it is not isolated to the US.

I am reminded of the essay The Paranoid Style in American Politics by historian Richard Hofstadter, which goes into the history and details of such hysterias. But it doesn't explain fully why rightists are so dissociated from facts Trump certainly helped it along, but some of these conspiracies i.e pizzagate predate his domination of politics.

It can't just be that they're stupid, can it?
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>corruption in socialist countries
<Your medic won't treat you if you don't give him money (although there's public healthcare)

>Corruption in capitalist countries.

<The local politician has made an agreement with a building company to make a park for 50.000.000$ with a 90% overrun of taxpayers money and when he retires he gets a big position at the company. Also because of this expenditure he had to privatise healthcare and now you will have to pay 100.000$ to get treatment at the Bloodsuckers hospital or die.
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>Pfizer, Moderna vaccines have reduced effectiveness against South African variant, studies show

>The vaccines, however, showed a decreased ability to neutralize the strain now dominant in South Africa, worrying some researchers and prompting Pfizer and BioNTech to announce they were taking necessary steps to develop a booster shot or updated vaccine. A day after Pfizer’s announcement, a top White House coronavirus adviser said each vaccine developer is planning to update shots to address variants.


Worst case: We will never be free of covid

Best case: We will have to get a third or even fourth dose or more as "booster shots" to update for new variants
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Can middle class white people, and their cumspawn, really be communists? Or is it just an aesthetic?
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The authoritarian personality

How could one man cuck the right so hard that still decades after his death, they slander him so much to avoid their cuck army learning from and for him
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Half a million dead in the US from coronavirus pandemic: Catastrophe, crime and historical turning point
"The catastrophic loss of life in the US is the outcome of deliberate decisions made by the ruling class and its political representatives to prioritize profit over lives."
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What are small forms of praxis, both online and offline, that people can do?
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Alt-Board Revival Initiative

Hey leftybros you know what it is
Its time to go on another board and make a post or a new thread.
We have alot of great boards here that arent used that much right now
But they are packed with great content check them out start something and soon enough they will be quit lively again
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“Muh Empire dindu nuffin!”

Why does the Japanese government do this?
Why do they just pretend like the world doesn’t know all the fucked up monstrous shit they did in WWII?
Why do they screech “LE COMMIE CHINKS!!!” whenever their heinous war crimes are brought up?
Not even the victors of WWII like the British deny their crimes against humanity, and yet the Japanese do
And it’s as open and public knowledge as Germany’s war crimes
Who tf do they think they’re fooling?
Even the Japanese populace knows, they just don’t care
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Why has the American left long been so weak?

The United States tends to be more right-wing than most rich countries in a number of areas, such as healthcare, criminal justice, labor union density, environmental policy, and others. It is also the only rich country that doesn't have a social democratic labor party. However, the reasons the for this American exceptionalism are somewhat of a mystery to me. I go ahead and do some speculating:

Likely reasons:
-Electoral system. The first past-the-post electoral system for electing legislators and the presidential system for electing the head of government combined make it almost impossible for an independent left party to enter politics.
-Race. Good ol' divide and rule.
-Political stability. Periods of political instability make it easy for radical ideas to gain traction. However, American hasn't any periods of exceptional political instability since the Civil War in the 1860s.
-Cold War geopolitics. Since its main geopolitical rival during the period was a socialist country, the United States government had to do everything in its power to squash leftist movements within its borders in order to prevent them from aiding the enemy.

Unlikely reasons:
-Culture. This is idealism.
-Lack of interest. There have been many big labor upheavals in the United States, especially in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. Labor movements just seemed unable to translate this militancy into political power.
-Wealth. Every other wealthy country has a stronger left than the United States.
-Colonialism. Other settler colonial countries like Canada and Australia have had stronger leftist movements.

What do you think?
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what is the connection between ecologism and eugenicism? why do some leftists accuse environmentalists of being malthusians and eugenecists?
pic unrelated
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News 2/24/21

Rioters erect barricades & throw bottles at police during 8th night of Pablo Hasel protests in Barcelona (VIDEO)
Supporters of jailed rapper Pablo Hasel, who was charged with insulting the Spanish king and glorifying terrorism, have clashed with police in Barcelona, Spain. The protests demanding Hasel’s release have raged for over a week. Rioters used wheeled garbage bins to erect makeshift barricades and threw glass bottles at riot police on Tuesday.

PNP Troops Injured During Successful Ambush By NPA In Sorsogon Province
Celso Minguez Command – New People’s Army Sorsogon successfully ambushed elements of the 92nd Special Action Company-9th Special Action Force in Brgy. Putiao at 7:00 am, February 22nd, 2021. Among the PNP wounded in the NPA command-detonated explosive based operation are Osmer Edwin Apa, truck driver PSSgt. Arnel Aves and PCpl. Jeffrey Putian.

Massacres almost doubled in Colombia last year, says UN
The report will be presented to the Human Rights Council in Geneva tomorrow. Despite the ceasefire, hundreds of former Farc guerillas have been murdered by paramilitaries as they seek to enter constitutional politics, while killings of trade unionists and human-rights activists continue.

Venezuela: Guaido Barred From Holding Public Posts for 15 Years
Amoroso stated that the decision is based on Guaido's refusal to submit an assets sworn declaration after ending his functions as a congressman."We know these people are involved in corruption acts and have stolen the money of all Venezuelans. They must have something to hide," he said.

Brazil's Lula Livre Campaign asks to annul Moro's trials of Lula
According to the digital newspaper Brasil 247, Moro, who was a former Minister of Justice, in collusion with the prosecutors of the deactivated Lava Jato Operation, violated the law and adopted abusive procedures to persecute and detain the founder of the Workers' Party.

Mexico: Lawmakers to Decide on Safe Abortion in Quintana Roo
In front of Congress, dozens of pro-abortion activists will accompany the debate with slogans and green flags, a symbol of the women's struggle for their rights. Early in the morning, the activists gathered next to a mural they painted in front of Congress several days ago that was vandalized by a group of hooded men on Tuesday.

Palestine action occupies Israeli arms factory halting production
PALESTINIAN-RIGHTS activists occupied the roof of an Israeli-owned arms factory in Staffordshire today, again halting the production of deadly weapons that have been used in Gaza. Palestine Action activists climbed onto the roof of Elbit Systems’ UAV Engines factory in Shenstone, smashed the windows and prevented the site from opening.

UK unemployment hits 5.1%, the highest in almost 5 years, as young workers bear brunt of Covid-19 restrictions
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said that 1.74 million people were unemployed in the October to December period, an increase of 454,000 from the same quarter in 2019. Tuesday’s data also show that 726,000 fewer people are currently employed than there were before the start of the pandemic and that young people have disproportionately borne the brunt of the losses.

Right-wing defection intensifies Australian government instability
A vehement right-wing defender of Donald Trump quit the ruling Liberal Party yesterday, further destabilising the Liberal-National Coalition government and marking another push for the creation of a Trump-style fascistic movement in Australia.

Ahmad Erekat: Killing of Palestinian by Israel was ‘extrajudicial execution’
The killing of Palestinian Ahmad Erekat at an Israeli checkpoint on his sister’s wedding day last year was an “extrajudicial execution”, a human rights research group has said. Erekat’s killing sparked widespread outcry in June when a video of the incident showed him exiting his vehicle in the occupied West Bank and backing away from soldiers, with his hands up, when he was shot.
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New revelations of FBI and New York police conspiracy in the assassination of Malcolm X
"The deathbed confession of undercover NYPD officer Raymond Wood also points to an official cover-up."
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What are your guys thoughts on transgender folx?
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Does degrowth have any chance of growing in the coming decades as a movement ?
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How Marxist actually are universities?

Do college/uni professors actually brainwash young adults in being marxist? if not why do right wingers sperg out about this?
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How to stop being angry and depressed all the time?

You know how things are, you know how unlikely they are to get better, so how can I feel better about it? I spend all my time trying to be distracted with videogames or whatever and try not to think about the world or about my life (no job, living with parents, etc etc).

How can I be happy in a world where Bezos et al exist?
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On Stalin

why do you think stalin was good? genuinely interested leftcom here and you guys are the only "political" online thing that i can even stand.
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China, Russia, and Iran moving along the lines of a formal military alliance

This in particular is something the US Empire and its Anglosphere allies deeply feared, the US military has specifically forewarned of such an alliance as a portent of the end of the Post-Cold War order
It’s ogre for Burgerdom, Great Power Competition is officially back on the table, may Marx have mercy on us all
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"Marxism is a liberal conspiracy"

Any ideas in debunking the trumpfag's accusation that liberalism is a form of marxism/ cultural marxism plagues america/etc once and for all? Which is the quickest way? I've literally seen a bumper sticker that said "defeat marxism, vote republican". How can you defeat a scientific truth?
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What is the marxist/materialist explanation for the white man having conquered the entire world by the 19th century?
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И мы опять здесь.

Тред для русскоязычных пользователей Лефтипола.
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the new adam curtis miniseries doc is out
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News 2/23/21

Greek Police violently attacks university students' protest
Once again Greek riot police used excessive violence against protesters, attacking a peaceful student's demonstration at Thessaloniki's Aristotle University. The students were protesting for their right to free education and against the new law which aims to permit police presence in university campuses.

Nepal's top court orders reinstatement of parliament in blow to PM
Nepal’s top court on Tuesday ordered the reinstatement of parliament, dealing a blow to Prime Minister K.P. Sharma Oli two months after he dissolved the house and called for an early election amid squabbling within the ruling Communist party.

Belarus Communist Party accuse West of sewing disorder in the country
Senior Communist Party of Belarus official Nikolai Volovich reiterated support for Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko, who faces increasing pressure following last week’s imposition of new sanctions by the European Union.

Nazi-saluting historian with far-right ties resigns as regional director of Polish institute tasked with probing Holocaust crimes
Tomasz Greniuch, a historian by training, has resigned his position as regional director of Poland’s influential Institute of National Remembrance (IPN). It came on Monday after weeks of pressure from politicians, activists and public figures, who saw him as an extremely inappropriate choice to hold the position given his past ties to the far-right.

The ethnic Chinese caught in Myanmar’s political turmoil
Footage and photos of Myanmese Chinese protesters opposing the coup have also appeared online. But that has not quelled doubts among the broader population about China’s role in the coup and whether the Chinese Myanmese were supporting Beijing. “Many people started to question whether the Chinese Myanmese were standing with Beijing. That made me very worried,” she said.

Erdogan slammed amid reports he will open a ‘Grey Wolves’ fascist school in occupied Artsakh
ANTI-FASCIST forces in Turkey blasted authoritarian President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s links to right-wing paramilitary death squads today after reports that he will open a new Grey Wolves school in occupied Nagorno-Karabakh.He will lay the foundation for the building alongside Azerbaijan’s President Ilham Aliyev in the city of Shushi, which was taken by Azeri forces in November 2020 after a three-day battle.

El Salvador to Hold Parliamentary Elections on Sunday
Since Bukele came into office, he has attacked the Parliament, which he accuses of "obstructing his efforts to govern." On Feb. 9, 2020, he stormed into its headquarters with soldiers to put pressure on lawmakers to pass a law. The incident was cataloged by lawmakers as "a violation of the Constitution and an attempted parliamentary coup."

A year on, India's riot victims say justice still unserved
Many of the Muslim victims of last year’s bloody violence say they have run repeatedly into a refusal by police to investigate complaints against Hindu rioters. Some hope the courts will still come to their help. But others now believe the justice system under Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s Hindu-nationalist government has become stacked against them.

Extinction threatens third of freshwater fish species, report finds
Nearly a third of all freshwater fish species are threatened by extinction, according to a new report released by 16 conservation groups on Tuesday. "The World’s Forgotten Fishes" says that 80 freshwater species — which make up more than half of all the world’s species — have already been declared extinct, with 16 disappearing in 2020 alone.

Bolivia will control drug and health service rates
The Vice Minister of Justice, Jorge Silva, in charge of the Defense of User and Consumer Rights, declared to the state channel Bolivia TV that the institutions that make up the National Council for the Supply and Control of Medicines Prices will carry out permanent inspections to protect health public.
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Why is Freud so hated?

What is it about Freud that makes people seethe so much?

What connection does Marxism and Freud have?
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Was it justified?

Was the Soviet invasion of Finland and the baltics justified? And why did they lose so much during the Winter war?
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Intercommunalism vs. Intersectionality

Genuinely curious. What is the difference? Is it that one is anti-capitalism/anti-imperialist focused and the other is liberal? What is the point of having intercommunalism if imperialism is the highest contradiction?
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We already have Communism

says Zizek in the Form of Intellectual Property and the Failure of the Bourgeoisie to completely privatise it. But where is he taking that from? Most people use Netflix and Spotify. It seems that the Opposite of his statement is true, or have I misinterpreted him.
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>Be in Education class
>Sit down in Zoom
>Get 40 minute long lecture about how students in Burgerstan are actually taking “advantage” of colleges and college tuition is far lower than “costs of education”
<These fucking faggots have no means of explaining why it’s free in other countries or why college tuition was never so insanely expensive before recent times
It’s official
Every university should be burnt to the fucking ground
It’s mind boggling what passes for “education” in American colleges these days, someone should be brought to the rope for this shit
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ITT - We write a musical about the Russian Revolution

I wanna see Leftypol’s creative capacity
I know a lot of decent memes and videos have come out of this community before
And it’s been a dream of mine since I was 19 to write a musical about the Russian Revolution with Lenin and the Bolsheviks as the heroes
Come on Leftypol, show me your material, your creativity!
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Evidence of capitalism decaying

What are some empirically-validated ways in which quality of life is beginning to drop in industrialized countries, and capitalism is already showing itself to be in its end stages? Long-term trends are preferable.
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News 2/20/21

Colombia tribunal reveals at least 6,402 people were killed by army to boost body count
A special peace tribunal in Colombia has found that at least 6,402 people were murdered by the country’s army and falsely declared combat kills in order to boost statistics in the civil war with leftist rebel groups. That number is nearly three times higher than the figure previously admitted by the attorney general’s office.

Bolivian coup leaders sued for losses from IMF loan
The Plurinational Legislative Assembly of Bolivia will prepare as of Friday a lawsuit against former de facto President Jeanine Añez, for economic damages caused to the country by accepting a loan from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) irregularly.

Brazil’s Bolsonaro taps general to head state-run oil giant
In picking former Defense Minister Joaquim Silva e Luna to take over from Roberto Castello Branco, Bolsonaro is seeking to appeal to truck drivers, who threatened to go on strike at the beginning of the month due to recent increases in fuel prices.

Rape allegations throw doubt over future of Australian prime minister
Allegations that a young female staff member was raped by a more senior male official inside a government ministerial office nearly two years ago suddenly erupted in the corporate media this week, raising questions about the political survival of Prime Minister Scott Morrison.

Chinese media releases dramatic footage of last year’s deadly border clash with India (VIDEOS)
Many of the Indian soldiers were equipped with riot helmets and shields reading ‘police’, and were wielding assorted clubs and iron bars. The Chinese, in turn, apparently had reinforcements, with a group of soldiers in riot gear showing up to help their unarmed comrades.

Four Taiwan ex-intelligence officers charged with spying for mainland China
Four retired Taiwanese military intelligence officers – including a major general – have been indicted for spying for mainland China, prosecutors said on Saturday. The quartet were charged with developing a spying network and collecting confidential information for Beijing, the Taipei district prosecutors’ office said.

Mercenaries boss Erik Prince violated Libya weapons embargo: UN report
Mercenaries boss Erik Prince pumped $80m in weapons and fighters into eastern Libya, violating an arms embargo, UN investigators have found, according to reports published in the US media on Friday. An ally of former US president Donald Trump, Prince's alleged support flowed to the forces of renegade General Khalifa Haftar as he launched an assault in 2019 aimed at seizing the capital, Tripoli, from the UN-backed government.

The HDP is banned in Van
Van residents who come to the provincial building are taken inside after passing through the police security check. Police helicopters are flying over not only the HDP Provincial building but over the entire Van throughout the day, TOMA vehicles are placed at every corner in the busiest streets of the city such as Cumhuriyet and Maraş.

Moscow to Vote on Restoring Soviet Secret Police Founder’s Statue
The monument to “Iron” Felix Dzerzhinsky, who headed the Cheka secret police following the 1917 revolution, was removed from the KGB headquarters with the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991. It currently stands in the open-air Fallen Monument Park an hour’s walk south of the building that now houses the Federal Security Service (FSB).

Tory lobbyist spent £65k on anti-Labour adverts during 2019 election
Jennifer Powers published dozens of ads claiming that Mr Corbyn wanted to “attack property rights in the UK” and which told readers: “Your mortgage will be harder to pay under Labour,” the Mirror reported. She told the newspaper that she had partly funded the Facebook and Instagram ads herself, and raised money through “donations,” but refused to name the sources of her funding.

Ex-MP Williamson slams University of Bristol for failure to defend anti-Zionist professor from ‘lynch mob’ demanding his firing
The Board of Deputies of British Jews has been targeting Miller, a professor in the University of Bristol’s sociology department, with a series of accusations, most recently blaming the academic on Friday for putting Jewish students at risk of “real physical harm” by sharing his view that the “Zionist movement” is the “enemy of world peace.” The group’s latest letter was addressed to Hugh Brady, the university’s vice chancellor.

American neo-Nazi thug Robert Rundo expelled from Serbia
On Thursday 11 February, the anti-fascist movement of Serbia and particularly the League of Communist Youth of Yugoslavia (SKOJ) achieved an important victory, as the country's authorities finally expelled American neo-Nazi Robert Rundo.
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Your classist bias

Rap is one of my favorite genres, the one I've most been involved with and grew up surrounded by. And I love bringing it up to discussion around so-called lefties because of how effective it is in making petty bourgeoisie, or "the middle class", oust themselves. They're the ones that have been handed relative economic comfort and have been taught to dislike anything that involves poors, especially that of color origin, so the common saying when talking about music preferences is "everything except for country and rap". God damn do I love hearing that.

The mainstream chart topping of both country and rap is of course mostly garbage but that's the working of consumer capitalism. But even lefties who explicitly recognize the workings of our economic and cultural system still fail to ever recognize this bias for what it is: top-down classism. Talk about rap and the lefties nose immediately goes up as to escape the air that just dared to mention such inferior culture.

Why is classism ignored and placidly accepted? Even among lefty circles classism is strong. It's obviously moreso among libs, conservatives and all the right-wing shit, but you'd think it would be more explicitly acknowledged in places like this. I'm calling out most of the board really, so many you obviously of "middle class" background. When people speak of the working class, what it most often really means is the perceived "middle class" who are more affluent. The actual poors among the working class are but secondary afterthought. The idea of a vanguard consisting of this massive difference, even if only perception ultimately, is laughable with what it represents. Are you really for the masses? Or yourself?
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Marx as accommodation

Is this /biz/ anon right about Marx?
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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees

Második felvonás!
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The next industrial revolution

So what are your predictions what societal impact the next industrial revolution powered by the next generation of AI will be? The most rudimentary manual work will be replaced first. Office type of tasks that don't require much training are also being replaced. Some online articles and attorney letters are already being written by machine learning algorithms as far as I know.
Will this gradual replacement radicalize the prole?
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We need a debunk thread on here
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/Nord/ - Nordic General

The previous Nordic thread reached bump limit, so let's continue here.

Let's discuss in English, so we can all understand each other (I don't want this to become a circle jerk for Swedes only).

Previous thread >>290791
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I'm a MLM but sympathize with social democrats but how far can we actually go with Democrats and liberals? Also fuck nazbols and other racists in the left decolonization is based
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How would an armed revolution be possible in the 1st world when the state can literally drop anvils on people? I find it ridiculous how some people just think they'd do better than real life groups fighting against the US. And I know, plenty of groups have survived against such onslaught but none have ever thrived or even remained relevant, aside the Taliban.

Just look at Texas and how they capitulated from a lil' snow. And no, VIetnam doesn't count since it's closer to WW1 than 2021.
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Let's get a hate list going /leftypol/
Here's mine:
>U.S. Protectorates
>Saudi Arabia
>United Kingdom
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Signs that someone is a liberal while pretending to be a leftist

lemme start
>thinks that Bolsonaro/Trump/Orbán (etc.) are fascists
>holds a stake in the "culture" game (muh progressive values)
>thinks that Trump "attempted a [fascist] coup"
>criticizes actual socialist countries based on "rights, values, principles" instead of understanding historic processes
>is an Adam Curtis, Michael Moore, and/or Russell Brand fan
>unironically calls himself a humanist (worse, paints Marx as one)
>says that economic planning isn't possible
>thinks hippies were cool

What am I missing here?
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News 2/22/21

Witness to Pau D’Arco Massacre Murdered in Brazil
On Jan. 26, Dos Santos Araujo was found shot in the head at his home in the state of Para. Previously, on May 24, 2017, he survived an assault by security forces on the Santa Lucia farm in the Pau D'Arco Municipality, where ten farmers occupying the land were killed."The fact that yet another human rights defender has been killed in Para… shows a disturbing pattern of impunity," Lawlor lamented.

Iranian parliament calls for President Rouhani to be prosecuted over ‘illegal’ agreement with IAEA
A majority of Iranian lawmakers voted on Monday to pass a motion condemning the country’s president, Hassan Rouhani, for agreeing a deal between his government and the UN nuclear watchdog, and called for his prosecution.

South Korea agrees to partial release of blocked Iranian money
South Korea has agreed to release “a part” of billions of dollars of Iranian money it had blocked in its banks for years because of United States sanctions. In a statement, the Central Bank of Iran (CBI) said South Korean Ambassador to Tehran Ryu Jeong-hyun announced the news in a meeting his embassy called for.

Nearly 50 percent of voters do not have a favorite candidate in Peru
The survey, conducted by the CPI company, shows former neoliberal soccer player George Forsyth in the first place for the presidency of the country. Forsyth continues to decline and currently registers 8.9 percent of vote intention, well below 48.9 percent who will vote blank or annul the ballot (19.8) or have not yet decided for whom they will vote (30.1).

UK could declare Brexit 'water wars': The Telegraph
Britain could restrict imports of European mineral water and several food products under retaliatory measures being considered by ministers over Brussels’ refusal to end its blockade on British shellfish, the Telegraph reported.

Government scheme failed to prevent ‘staggering increase’ in homeless deaths last year, figures reveal
THE government’s Everyone In scheme failed to prevent a “staggering increase” in homeless deaths last year, campaigners said today, after figures revealed the death toll jumped by more than a third in 2020. Campaign group Museum of Homelessness (MoH) recorded 976 deaths among homeless people across Britain last year, a 37 per cent increase on 2019.

Northern Ireland parties take legal action against Brexit deal
The Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) and Ulster Unionist Party (UUP) are to join other pro-British figures to challenge the Northern Ireland Protocol, which has created trade barriers between the British region and the rest of the United Kingdom.

Russia Starts Giving Coronavirus Vaccine To Homeless
40 homeless people in Saint Petersburg received coronavirus vaccine jabs on Sunday under a charity initiative that has received the backing of local officials."Here, there are many people at risk. It is important for them to be vaccinated," said Taisia Suvorova of the Nochlezhka non-governmental organization that provides aid to the homeless in Russia's second-largest city.

Gaza Strip Receives 20,000 Doses of COVID Vaccines Paid by UAE
A total of 20,000 doses of Russia's Sputnik V coronavirus vaccines, funded by the United Arab Emirates (UAE), arrived in the Gaza Strip on Sunday through the Rafah border crossing. "Today, we have received the shipment of COVID-19 vaccines funded by the UAE," Ghazi Hamad, undersecretary of the Hamas-run ministry of social development, told reporters at the border crossing between Gaza and Egypt.
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End of American hegemony

With China rising as a world power, the era of American world hegemony will soon come to an end. I have a few questions:
-Who will be the major world powers in coming years? China and the United States are obvious, but there may be more, like the European Union.
-Will China and other new superpowers be nicer to other countries than the United States was?
-Will this new multipolar world be more or less peaceful?
-How will the new multipolar world order affect socialist movements?
-How will the United States fare with its loss of hegemony?
-Will the multipolar order be better or worse to live in than the old monopolar one?

If you have any other comments to leave about the end of American world supremacy, feel free to leave them. I, as an American, don't mind the end of American hegemony as it means people in other countries will have countries other than the United States to blame their problems on. I can't wait for protests against a regime change war started by China.
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It's a bad look for leftists to be holocaust deniers tbh.
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What does the current state of WMDs look like and where to get up to date information on it (as limited as they may be)? Information regarding nuclear weaponry seems to be relatively public to an extend, but I am highly curious regarding chemical and biological WMDs because of their greater secrecy. They seem much more taboo and are generally not considered or talked about, despite that their potential destructiveness isn‘t small at all. What gives? Why do we hear next to nothing about them in comparison to nukes? And what do we know about the world super powers arsenal when it comes to them?
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Would there be trail mix in communism?
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Bolivia to return IMF loans tanken by Añez

This is ungodly based
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The sociopathic faggotry of the upper middle class/PMC

I fucking hate this culture
I hate reading these utter sickening faggots speak and utter breaths, I hate them with a passion
This is not against any specific group of upper middle class faggots but the whole lot of them, I don’t care what culture they affect because I hate every single one
My question is, how do these people survive the utterly despicable and toxic social circles they exist in?
If you look at the actual culture of the upper middle class, it is, in my mind, nearly as psychopathic and atavistic as the upper class and lumpen cultures, definitely moreso than lumpen culture
If you look at how this strata define things such as “success” or “ambition” or “highly value individuals”, it becomes clear that the only reason that they exist is to crush the rest of their fellow proletarians under their heel to curry favor with the wealthy
These people are the most despicable of scum to me, and I know because whenever I read their perspectives from inside their little bubbles on place like Reddit I want to decorate my walls with their skulls
I well and truly hate these people, why must they be what they are?
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How can I continue to believe in communism when people are such awful cunts?

I’m really trying to hold onto my belief that a change is possible and everything but, but what if people actually ARE just cruel rotten cunts with a greater penchant to do harm more than anything else? I mean, what if everyone is just a piece of shit? What if things really can’t change in any positive way? I’m trying really, really hard to have faith and love for humanity, but it’s so hard to actually see anything good in them, and I’m just so tired honesty, maybe it’s better if another species millions of years from now gets another chance?
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Is Vietnam socialist?

Luna Oi told me Vietnam is socialist, it seems like it probably is. I am curious though if they're just plain ol' Dengists, or if they diverge significantly from the Chinese model.
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"Class reductionism" is a rampant brain disease that seeks to reify and rationalize phenomena in the external world, not understanding that the world is constantly in flux and that the map is not the territory.

"What is the material basis for x phenomenon happening?"
It's always about "muh material benefit". While that is a good motivator, you must never forget that sometimes things are retarded, and that people have other motivations besides material gain.

Read Cockshott being a rationalist retard when defending his dog-shit takes on LGBT issues. "muh material gain is why gays don't want to be discriminated".

There are a billion examples of this. Even self-identified marxist scholars reek of this shit. Calling marxism a science is probably the worst thing to have happened to these rationalist marxists, since science is by default logical-positivist trash.

Rationalism is the motor of fascism and the life force of neoliberalism. Rationalizing marxism is an extremely vulgar activity that is befitting of only the most liberal poisoned minds. If you think you are "above this" or if you think "this isn't really a problem", you ARE the problem. If you don't actively see this in 90+% of marxist interpretations or marxist analysis, it is because you are swimming in piss already.

Also, Americans are like the #1 culprit of this shit and half the board is American. I'm specifically calling you out.

Why is rationalizing/liberalizing marxism so common and how can it be overcome?
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A few questions for you gents, to clear some things up.

1. Is science a form of metaphysics, or does it require one? (yes/no)

2. Is dialectics a form of metaphysics? (yes/no)

3. Is Marxism a science? (yes/no)
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Toxic Chemicals Threaten Humanity’s Ability to Reproduce

Full Interview: https://theintercept.com/2021/01/24/toxic-chemicals-human-sexuality-shanna-swan/
Just some excerpts and then the commentary in the next post.

>You’ve also linked phthalate exposure to a lack of interest in sex.

Yes, we found a relationship between women’s phthalate levels and their sexual satisfaction. And researchers in China found that workers with higher levels of bisphenol A, commonly known as BPA, in their blood were more likely to have sexual problems, including decreased desire.

>Of course, phthalates, which are added to plastics, food, cosmetics, and other products, aren’t the only problem. You write about lots of chemicals that interfere with the hormonal system and reproduction, including the pesticide atrazine, which you’ve linked to lower sperm quality, and glyphosate, which you’ve recently shown decreases AGD in rats and perhaps also in humans. It’s worth pointing out that all of these chemicals we’re talking about are still in use in the U.S., while some other countries have banned them. Anyway, tell me about the relationship between endocrine disrupting chemicals and how children play?

Sexually dimorphic play is controversial. Some people say it’s all socially determined. And it undoubtedly does have social determinants, but it also has physiological determinants. And we showed that in two studies. We asked mothers of young children to tell us how their children play. It’s pretty simple: How often do they play with guns? Play with dolls? Play dress-up? Play with tea sets, etc. And it turns out that when boys are exposed to the same chemicals that affect AGD, they play in a less male-typical manner.

>The chemicals can change how boys and girls learn to speak too?

One of the parts of the brain that’s sexually dimorphic has to do with language acquisition, and females are typically at an advantage. When you ask the mother of a young child how many words her child understands, girls generally have many more words. But this sex difference is decreased by phthalates. And that is an overriding theme: Whether you look at AGD or play behavior or language acquisition, these chemicals decrease sex differences.

>The chemical exposures you describe can impact generations. Can you explain how a person’s grandchildren might also be affected by their exposures?

Grandchildren are easy to explain. If you’re pregnant, and you’re carrying a boy, the chemicals you’re exposed to can pass to him through the placenta. So the germ cells that will create his children are already affected. Plus that boy is exposed to chemicals again as an adult. It’s a two-hit model. Or, for subsequent generations, a three-hit or four-hit model. Because you get the inherited contribution, and then you get your own life course contribution when you grow up.

>How does that end?

Badly. That’s why we have this continuing decline in fertility and sperm quality. If we didn’t have a hit from our parents and our grandparents, then each generation would just start all over again. It would be bad, but the impact would be at the same level each time. The fact that we carry with us the problems of the past generations means that we’re starting at a lower level and getting hit again and again and again.
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Will they be a nicer hegemon than the United States?

When China becomes the dominant (or co-dominant) superpower, do you think they will be nicer than the US? Or will they start doing regime change wars every year like America does?
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How much power does /pol/ have?

I can't really decide if they are actually all that powerful or not. It seems like some of their support is astroturf but sometimes I think that they will be back in 2020 or so. The right is very good at being trendy little bitches and they have already found some chick that "named the jew" or some garbage.
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The Communist Manifesto turns 173 years old today. Say something nice about it.
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Can someone provide factual evidence that Social Democracy is imperialist?

Can anyone provide actual science and data the proves the claim that Social Democracy is an imperialist system.
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Thread for Eco-Communism/Anarchism/Socialism/Marxism etc.

Post pdfs, memes, articles, funposts and vibe.

Cool shit happening in Senegal, lads.
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Who gets the wall after the revolution?
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The Mars rover and the Texas catastrophe: Scientific possibility vs capitalist reality
"If society operated on the principle of rationality and human need, not the insatiable greed of the rich, the scientific advancements that made possible the Mars rover would be used to end the many ills that plague humanity."
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if communism works then how come it failed?
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The original antagonistic contradiction; Hoomans vs the Pleistocene megafauna

On the one hand humans were already apex predators in every environment they found themselves in
On the other hand them fuck huge Ice Age animals, them niggas was big and humanity was always in a struggle to survive against the Ice Age predators
How was this contradiction resolved and how could the world have been d-i-f-f-e-r-e-n-t if things went some other way?
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Is this all capitalism does?
>encloses farmland
>encloses manufacturing
>encloses natural resources
>encloses housing
>encloses digital services
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/k/ - Weapons & Related Gear

This is a thread to discuss weapons and related gear. This thread isn't a condonement of illegal behavior.
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Why do you fuckers hate lumpen so much?

What the fuck do you middle class faggots even know about lumpen?
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“Pax Americana”

Wtf is this bullshit?
How can there be an “American Peace” when the US or one of its puppets has been at war for almost every year since the end of the Second World War?
How can there be such a thing when Burgerstan has been at war for almost my entire life?
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Jesus this is humiliating...

Ever since I stopped being a Misanthropic, Eco-Fascist Anti-SJW, I've found myself becoming increasingly more Jaded and unimpressed with the uptick in Anti-Leftist/Reactionary dogma that came after pointless internet rage-baby nonsense like GamerGate and The Alt-Right/Lite Bullshit.

Think of all of the most significant Movements/Groups/Accomplishments The Right Made throughout the 2010s:

- The Previously Mentioned GamerGate
- The Dark Enlightenment
- The Manosphere (i.e. The Red Pill, MGTOW, etc)
- The Alternative Influence Network
- The Intellectual Dark Web
- The rise of 'SJW LEFTISTS FEMINISTS WRECKT' compilations and Media Critics
- Getting some Fat Retarded Slug into the white house purely because he 'Triggered the Libtards'
- Getting self proclaimed 'Centrists' to uncritically parrot their talking points/Conspiracies (i.e. 'Cultural Marxism', 'The Great Replacement', 'muh Globalists', etc)
- Getting self proclaimed 'moderates' to uncritically defend and admire their demagogues and grifters owned by billionaires all under the guise of 'muh Freeze Peach' and "Telling it like it is" (i.e. Ben Shapiro, Steven Crowder, Alex Jones, Milo Yiannopoulos, Jordan Peterson, etc)
- Getting virtually every somewhat political personality to Gobble up their Strawmen/Stereotypes (i.e. the 'Oversensitive SJW', the 'Lazy Socialist Welfare Queen', the 'Anti-Trump SoyBoy Commie Consooomer', etc) whilst touting themselves as these unbiased critical thinkers.

Meanwhile, what has The Left accomplished over the past few years?

- Occupy Wall Street? (Which wasn't even that successful)
- BLM? (Which hardly made any proper reform and still had of hostility directed at it under the pretense of 'muh Law and Order'
- #MeToo? (Which was literally started by a despicable neoliberal Corporatist grifter)
- Having Bernie as a unifying cause for The Left? (We all saw how that turned out)
- The Dirt bag Left? (Which pretty much seems to be permanently overdosed on Xanax-Induced Doomerism after Bernie Dropped out)
- Breadtube?….

idk man, I knows things have improved since the Hilarious disaster known as Charlottesville, but shit still isn't that great. It's just tiring and unmotivating to have your politics just being handwaved away by everyone under the pretense of a bunch of hyper-inflated stereotypes that hardly even exist in the real world.

How did this happen? How did the right manage to gain this temporary status quo victory for almost a Fucking Decade?
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Mini Happening?

Judging from this https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/308972829 it seems three volcanoes in Guatemala are about to go off at the same time.
Idk how much could be relevant but i'm opening a thread to know more about it.
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The Rise of Authoritarian Liberalism

>Macron cracking down on yellow vest protesters and out and out calling for anti-democratic reform to stop "right-wing populists"
>Biden arguing for Patriot Act II Justified to fight right-wing teroism
>Libs now unironically backing corperate censorship online to stop the spread of "hate" (predictably and already being used as an excuse to purge leftists online)
It seems that as the effects of Austerity take shape in the radicalization of the populace of western nations either to reactionary or true revolutionary ends libs have been made more and more willing to crack down on dissent in what could only be described as "Illiberal" (predictably as of course liberalism is itself a cloak for the defence of capital)
This is justified on the basis of opposing the racism of the reactionary right though it used universally against all those who oppose that status quo convienietly
What would you bros say will be the long term effects of this on the international prospects for revolution in the west in the coming years??
Will it push more workers into the arms of reactionaries (perhaps by design) as they are portrayed as the only opposition to the status quo?
Or will the discreditment of liberalism and the demonization of the far right as an alternative push workers to the left as an opposition both to the horrors of liberal austerity and sadistic chauvinism of the right?
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Fascists are joining the military, should communists do the same?
I believe we could form networks and gain vital training, but I’m a retard so idk, what does leftypol think?
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Relationship between colonialism and industrialization

So what is the relationship between colonialism and industrialization? Did colonialism make it possible? Did it enable it to grow faster?
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how is this movie? is it actually about the real Black Panthers or is it a glowie retcon?
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Marxism too eurocentric? Alternatives?

I've heard of the criticism before that Marx was too eurocentric. What Marxist thinkers came afterwards to have corrected or aided Marx's original works to sufficiently explain the world outside of a eurocentric understanding?
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What's /leftypol/'s opinion on picrel?
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Police Brutality in Burgerland

What is the materialist explanation of police brutality against blacks in Burgerland?
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getting more conservative with age


Why do boomers say this? is it true that people get more conservative or right wing with age? If so what is the evidence/studies behind this as well as the materialist reason behind it?
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if you meet someone and you’re not sure do they’re a communist, is there a quick way to tell without revealing your power level? pic unrelated
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Why have ML states in history taken away the rights of people?

1. Im not talking about bourgoise rights like "muh property" but Im talking about natural rights. There is a key distinction.
2. I agree the soviet union changed their economic system to socialism pretty fast. but the SAME thing could have happened under a soc dem or a liberal democracy without the mass killings and forced collectivization.
Industrialization is mostly a natural process if its allowed to happen.
3. The only reason quality of life has massively improved almost every time socialism has been implemented, is because it was implemented in poor agricultural nations and most of their growth was due to catch up rather than cutting edge (and it was well known that catch up growth is much faster than cutting edge). Was to tell me what happened when the ussr caught up? Hint: collapse
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Beardtube growing

Post links to good and classpilled left wing youtube, podcasts, etc. no radlibs, grifters, and breadtube liberals
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Biden calls for expanded efforts to protect LGBTQ rights globally

>U.S. President Joe Biden on Thursday issued a presidential memorandum aimed at expanding protection of the rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer and intersex (LGBTQI) people worldwide, including potentially through the use of financial sanctions.

Identity politics fully realized, you can't be persecuted for being gay if you are dead!
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Based China Thread

ITT we post images of the great PRC
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Reminder that Stalin was YURI GANG
> On 7 March 1934, Article 121 was added to the criminal code for the entire Soviet Union that expressly prohibited only male homosexuality, with up to five years of hard labour in prison. There were no criminal statutes regarding sex between women.
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Could capitalism have developed without the proliferation of firearms?

Did the gun create capitalism?
Did the gun finally make all citizens equal under the law because it BTFO knighthood and chivalrous faggotry?
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How do Muskfags convince themselves tech has advanced in any meaningful way in the past 20 years?

Like, holy fuck, when I say “Muskfags” I mean futurologist types in general, who think the world has experienced some sort of amazing technological acceleration in the past two decades. How the fuck do these people believe such stupid shit? They talk about cellphones (which already existed in the 20th Century) getting more streamlined and getting internet connections….and basically nothing else. Like, all the tech “advancements” of the past 20 years has been almost exclusively AI oriented and despite that we’re still decades away from anything like an actual Artificial Intelligence ala SKYNET or HAL 9000 if creating those things is even possible which it may not be. What the fuck do these people even see exactly? The greatest technological advancement of the past forty years has basically been better cancer treatments, better computers, the Large Hadron Collider, and the Internet. That’s about it. The VAST MAJORITY of tech advancement has been updating shit that was created in the 20th Century. Even military drones legit originated from World War fucking II, look it up, the Nazis and Soviets each utilized bomb carrying buggies and teletanks that were controlled remotely, even the US managed to make their first autonomous bomb around this time.
Let’s compare to the technological advancements of the first forty years of the 20th Century, you have:
>The modern automobile
>Air power for the first time in human history
>The tank
>Air warfare
>Primitive drones
>Primitive computers
>Poison gases for warfare
>Facial reconstruction surgery
>Modern medicine
>Rocketry capable of entering Earth’s orbit
>Nuclear energy/bombs (which was basically sci-fi super science in 1945)
How could the advancements from 1981 - 2021 possibly compare to the advancements of 1900 - 1940? How can people think our tech ISN’T stagnating and somehow advancements are fucking accelerating if anything!? Half that shit I mentioned was created entirely from scratch in that century! Half the shit we have right now isn’t even from this century, even the internet is pre-21st Century!
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Overcoming Nihilism?

Friends, how can I overcome my nihilist mindset? I just want to have a meanigful life and believe in something. Why is human existence so trivial?
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Leftist College Major

What is the most leftist thing to major in in college?

Or is it more proletarian to simply work or learn a trade?
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Deplatforming Works

I hate it, but you have to admit. it is effective.

Where is Stephen Molyneux today? What bout Milo? What about Richard Spencer? They're exiled to cuck platforms like Bitchute

Deplatforming is effective, even deplatforming of whole platforms like 8chan/Parler.

Now the only question is how long it will take for the left to be deplatformed and how to deal with the effects
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What is leftypol's position on marijuana, criminal justice, etc.? Is weed culture and weed smoking proletarian?

song related https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGcsBnRsTnQ

Should it be legalized for recreational or medical use? or at least decriminalized so people don't go to jail for it?
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RQ: Radlib Question

Comrade-anons how do we deal with the radlib question? Can they be converted to Marxism or are they just lost causes?

What is to be done? (about radlibs)
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News 2/19/21

NATO hasn’t reached decision on whether to leave Afghanistan as deadline looms
NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg said Thursday that the alliance has not yet decided if the 10,000 troops it has in Afghanistan will leave the country by May, in accordance with a peace deal brokered between the U.S. and the Taliban.

NATO to expand mission in Iraq by 3,500 troops
The 30-member alliance will increase its personnel in Iraq from 500 to about 4,000, a move to prevent the war-torn country from becoming a breeding ground for terrorists, NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg announced Thursday.

US says it is ready for direct talks with Iran over nuclear deal
"The United States would accept an invitation from the European Union High Representative to attend a meeting of the P5+1 and Iran to discuss a diplomatic way forward on Iran's nuclear program," State Department spokesperson Ned Price said in a statement on Thursday.

‘Attack on democracy’: Spanish PM finally condemns violent protests in support of rapper jailed for terrorism and insulting crown
Around 80 people have been arrested and over 100 injured so far in violent clashes between Spanish police and individuals protesting the arrest of rapper Pablo Hasel, who is now serving a nine-month prison sentence for writing a song that criticized former King Juan Carlos I, as well as for tweets that law enforcement said glorified defunct terrorist groups.

Greek Communist Party Accuses Govt of the Way It Handled the Recent Snowstorm
"A few days ago, government officials and municipal authorities were boasting about the readiness of the state mechanism ahead of the imminent bad weather conditions. However, the harsh reality categorically denied them. The preparation turned out to be a big lie and the only plan the government had was to advise the citizens of the Attica region to stay home."

Die Linke calls for Germany to recognise genocide of Kurds in Iraq
Die Linke MP Helin Evrim Sommer exposed the complicity of German companies in the Anfal attack and the gassing of 5,000 Kurds at Halabja, which was one of the worst massacres in recent history. Some 80 German companies are known to have supplied Saddam’s regime with equipment for its weapons programme, far outstripping the involvement of other countries.

Russian Communist leader Zyuganov threatens to fire anti-Kremlin MP Rashkin after accusations of supporting ‘traitor’ Navalny
Rashkin is an outspoken member of the Communists and, unlike his leader Zyuganov, regularly takes aim at the Kremlin. Earlier this week, the politician attacked the country's government for a "sharp deterioration in the socio-economic situation" and rising unemployment.

Ecuador´s general election results to be announced in three days
The official results of the first round of general elections in Ecuador will be announced over the weekend, Diana Atamaint, president of the National Electoral Council (CNE), announced on Thursday. As detailed by Atamaint, the CNE will announce the final results once the review of pending reports from abroad is concluded on Saturday or Sunday.

Somali government forces, opposition clash in Mogadishu over election protest
Demonstrators said they had been attacked first by the government forces. Residents reported sporadic shooting and said rocket-propelled grenades had also been fired. The violence, which followed fighting overnight, subsided by Friday afternoon.

Israeli press review: Report finds widespread racism among Israel's youth
The study showed that 66 percent of the ultra-Orthodox, 42 percent of religious Israelis, and 24 percent of secularists “hate Arabs”, meaning the Palestinian community that makes up 20 percent of the Israeli population and who participate in the Knesset and government institutions.
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Social Media vs Imageboards

What is the difference between traditional methods of internet communication like messageboards, chat rooms, email lists, IRC, PHPBB bulletin boards, and even imageboards, and “Social media”?

The difference is discussion vs consumption. The operative word in social media is MEDIA. As opposed to “traditional” media like radio, TV, books, magazines, newspapers, etc.

Media means producing content for consumers, OTOH a chatroom for example is just a technological version of people chatting at a bar.

The “social” in social media refers to the fact that instead of having employees produce the content, the company simply allows the users/customers to produce their own content, either for free or for pennies on the dollars. A traditional newspaper needs investigative journalists, reporters, editors, fact checkers, etc. Whereas facebook simply needs drunk wine moms and terminally online people to DO IT FOR FREE, as the meme goes.

Its a transformation of discussion from a conversation between two or more individuals, to a performance done for the purpose of being attention grabbing, by making it entertaining, or controversial, or funny. This discussion-as-performance changes the whole mode of discourse and makes it inherently bad faith and inauthentic, in the same way talkshows and reality TV are fake – even if unscripted, they are still doing it for the camera. And just like reality TV, the rewards are comically low. At least 90s/2000s reality TV paid their participants on occasion. Social media pays its actors, I mean “creators”, nothing but “likes”, which literally cost the company no more than incrementing a field in a database. At best they are paid pennies on the dollar (ex: youtube sponsorships) compared to the millions they are creating in value.

Another thing that separates traditional chat/forums from “Social Media” is algorithmic timelines and gamification. Algorithmic timelines and recommender systems are the crack cocaine of social media, the equivalent of tobacco executives finding out about nicotine. Chatrooms simply display messages in order of most recent message. Forums/Chans usually use something simple like last reply bumping.

Even Reddit/Twitter have recommender systems. For Twitter its the trending hashtag. For Reddit, its based on likes. In that sense they outsource the recommending to the users.

Facebook, with its highly optimized algorithmic timeline is way more advanced than twitter/reddit, and so its no surprise that it has more users.

We ask why social media has replaced chans, forums, etc.? It’s because, simply social media is BETTER. Not better for the users, but better at being addictive.

Recommender systems also mean that bigger sites outcompete smaller ones. Creating algorithmically addicting systems becomes an arms race, and small sites just can’t compete. Facebook hires math/cs/ml phds to create cutting edge recommender systems, deep machine learning powered individualized targeted content that can target the reptilian center of the brain. Its just too powerful. Its one thing for individualized sites to host a phpBB forum or something, its another for individualized sites to recreate the network effects and constant algorithmically addicting content stream of facebook for example.
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The Second Sino-Japanese War

ITT we discuss the little mentioned heroic resistance of the Chinese people against genocidal Japanese imperialism; whose crimes were so great that even though historians question whether the Japanese Empire can be properly termed “fascist”, they cannot deny that their crimes were on par with those of Nazi Germany’s. In their heroic resistance the Chinese bled the Japanese military dry, though the victory is oft handed to the Americans it must never be forgotten that it was the sacrifice of millions of Chinese men and women which brought low the Japanese Empire while it was still so young
(Also this thread is lowkey to dunk on that fuckin polyp weeb from earlier too)
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MLM J. Moufawad-Paul interviewed

Prominent Marxist-Leninist-Maoist theorist J. Moufawad-Paul video was just released, where he was interviewed by Paul Morrin.
Lots of interesting topics: from historical materialism, to accounting for world-historical events, praxis and going forward.
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Entertaining Wikipedia Finds

Share Wiki articles or quotes that you found amusing, interesting, weird, etc with your comrades in this thread so that they can share in your amusement, interest, bewilderment, etc.

>Toller's government members were not always well-chosen. For instance, the Foreign Affairs Deputy Dr. Franz Lipp – who had been admitted several times to psychiatric hospitals – declared war on Württemberg and Switzerland over the Swiss refusal to lend 60 locomotives to the Republic.[14][13] He also claimed to be well acquainted with Pope Benedict XV[15] and informed Vladimir Lenin and the Pope by cable that the ousted former Minister-President Hoffmann had fled to Bamberg and taken the key to the ministry toilet with him.[16]
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What is the marxist explaination for japan being the most powerful nation in asia pound for pound?
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What the fuck is even taught in an M.B.A.?

Whats the point? does porky really need to go to school for 2 years to be a porky? or manager?

Surely they could teach accounting and reading financial statements in like 2 months, and leave anything else to operations research people or industrial engineers? And classes on leadership are bullshit, why couldn't they just learn social skills on the job?

Is it just networking opportunities for the spawn of the elite? They could do the same thing with a linkedin account and a few parties + trips to the golf course/country club?
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Should communists be merciful? Why/why not?

I will admit, I do not see anti-communists, fascists, or porkies as human and do not believe in their treatment as worthy of anything above that which a pig on a factory farm would endure, however I would like to see the thoughts of others
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Honor, Duty, Valor!

Really wanna know, are these things all just made up bullshit ideas primarily that are constructed by the ruling class as a way to, like, justify to people why they should join the military and shit? See, I was thinking about my sorta bizarre masculine obsession with….with being like my ancestors who fought in the American Civil War and the Great War and Second World War, doing shit like rushing forth bayonets affixed courageously charging at the enemy; I imagined winning honor and glory on the battlefield through victory or death, but then it kinda dawned on me that that shit would mean nothing if I actually died on the battlefield and my death really WOULD probably just be for some rich dude to expand his market share. And yet the Soviets also awarded soldiers with things like “Hero of the Soviet Union” in WWII.

So are honor and duty just made up bullshit or do they have some merit when devoting yourself to your class? Like, how could the Red Army be anything but honorable for their sacrifice to humanity?
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How would historical materialism change if humans were not primates?

Let’s say, hypothetically, there was a creature on Earth roughly around when we evolved that was equal to our intelligence and had some ability to grasp things and grasping appendages made for dexterity as well; except they aren’t at all primates and humans don’t even exist

How would historical materialism change? What if cephalopods or arthropods had human level intellect? What if avians did? How would things change? Would there be cephalopod empires fighting vicious underseas wars?
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>play grand theft auto vi
>takes place in saudi arabia
>no strippers
>instead of getting chased by police you're chased by western degenerate women who expose their kneecaps
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Protracted People's Cyberwar

Is it possible to apply Maoist/MLM tactics to hacktivism?
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News 2/18/21

Bolivia's Central Bank Returns Añez's Requested Loan To IMF
"This loan, in addition to being irregular and onerous due to its financial conditions, generated additional and millionaire economic costs to the Bolivian State, which as of February 2021 amount to US$24.3 million of which US$19.6 million are due to exchange rate fluctuations 19.6 million for exchange variation and 4.7 million for commissions and interest," the institution explained in a statement.

New document reveals French government organised the escape of Rwandan genocide leaders
A document discovered in official archives showed that the French government ignored appeals from Rwanda’s ambassador in Paris for French troops in the country to arrest officials of the former Hutu regime and instead organised their escape.

Colombia: The Army's Extrajudicial Killings Are Underestimated
"From 1988 to 2014, 6,402 innocent people, known as 'false positives', were killed. This figure represents 4,154 victims more than those reported," the JEP assured after leading an inquiry into the deaths illegitimately presented as combat casualties by state agents. In 2018, the JEP had access to the records of the Attorney General's Office, which reported that only 2,248 innocent people were victims of illegal executions.

Student wing of Dahal-Nepal faction of Nepal Communist Party demonstrates against petroleum price hike
The student wing of the Dahal-Nepal faction of the Nepal Communist Party on Thursday picketed the central office of Nepal Oil Corporation at Babar Mahal, Kathmandu to protest against the price hike of petroleum products.Students affiliated to the All Nepal National Free Students' Union chanted slogans demanding immediate withdrawal of the decision to increase the price.

Turkey could leverage hostage tragedy to reach Sinjar
Erdogan’s ruling Justice and Development Party and its de facto ally the far-right Nationalist Movement Party are seeking to turn the Gare raid into a rallying cry in both domestic and international politics. While local observers believe the Gare raid has paved Ankara's way to a Sinjar push, the prospect is alarming the Iraqi side, particularly pro-Iranian factions of the Popular Mobilization Units.

Protest in Baghdad against Turkish invasion attacks
Dozens of people gathered in front of the Turkish embassy in Baghdad, protesting the Turkish state's invasion attacks in Southern Kurdistan and Iraq. A banner saying "We condemn the attacks of the Turkish state on Iraqi territory, we do not accept these attacks" was displayed during the action organized by the Arab.

21 taken away as police raid Lumad Bakwit School in Cebu
The Save Our Schools Network said in a statement condemning the raid that 21 students —15 minors and 6 adults — were taken away in the operation, along with two teachers and two elders. "Their parents were supposedly forced and fetched out of their community in Davao del Norte by the military and the local government to justify this blatant attack," Save our Schools network also said.

Netanyahu allies with Jewish supremacists ahead of Israeli election
Netanyahu was involved in the negotiations to form a new electoral list called “The Religious Zionism,” which combines three radical parties. In Israel's proportional representation system, such agreements allow parties to combine surplus votes in hopes of gaining an additional seat.

Logistics union warns of strike action against ‘creeping culture’ of fire and rehire
Warning that shop stewards across the distribution and retail sectors were reporting attempts by employers to “salami slice” pay and conditions, blaming “market conditions,” the union signalled its intention to draw “a line in the sand” against the practice.

Venezuela to begin vaccinating medical personnel on Thursday, Maduro says
Venezuela will begin vaccinating medical personnel against the novel coronavirus on Thursday, President Nicolas Maduro said in a press conference on Wednesday. The announcement comes after the first 100,000 doses of Russia’s Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine arrived in the South American country on Saturday.
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Liberalism and Media

A bit of a different Approach to Media and its degrading quality, because of Liberalism. But I have this feeling, that even the most praised pieces of Media, whether it is Berserk in Manga, the Sopranos in TV or most of the Oscar nominated Movies, have one thing in Common, when talked about why they are so good or better than other pieces of Media.

It always comes down to, how deep a story or a character is or how complex the themes are. Berserk is considered a good Manga because of Existentialism and Sopranos because of Psychoanalysis or what not. But on closer inspection it is never really that deep. It is just surface level understanding of philosophical concepts, but retards always go like "You just don't understand it".

Nevermind that hardly any piece of media touches on Philosophial Materialism, but those so called Masterpieces are just very mediocre to me and whenever they try to be deep, I yawn. Am I just seeing spooks, or do I have a point?

Pic somewhat related to those soylets that do Movie/Anime Video Essays
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Why is it so important for the US that other countries trade oil in the US dollar? Does the petrodollar incentivize oil as an energy source, stifling green energy? Is it true Iraq was invaded partially because Saddam wanted to trade in Euros instead, which EU leaders liked but American ones didn't?

What other truths are there about oil?
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Iraq War(2003-2011)

What was the real marxist-materialist explanation for why the US invaded Iraq in the early 2000s? was it for oil?
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Is this accurate?

I think all these things are true. China has something for everyone.
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How come i never heard of this before?

What are your thoughts on this?
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Why the fuck did this thing take over?

Is it making shit like imageboards outdated? You have like 250 million discord users compared with like 20 million 4chan users? Is it a replacement for skype/ventrilo/teamspeak/dolby axon/mumble/a million other voice chat programs in the last 15+ years?

Discord is really killing independent websites. It would be fine if people could actually host their own server and shit but its centralizing all of it into one services thats probably data mining the users to boot
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Vaush Limbaugh

Are modern streamers like Vaush/Destiny/Hasan/etc. just the modern version of AM radio pundits like Rush Limbaugh? Limbaugh (just died) would basically just rant about conservative edgy boomer shit for 3+ hours on his show, modern edgyboi streamers are just doing the Zoomer version of that.
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The cultural revolution

I would like to start a thread for the discussion of the cultural revolution. What are the pros? What are the cons? And what was the material necessity and reason for such an act? I think the over all idea of the cultural revolution is fair and needed, but, I also think that the major issue with the cultural revolution was the in ability to distinguish between workers and working class people and the capitalist class; What I mean is that capitalists getting drug out in the street and beat to death is based, but, revolutionary students did shit like loot peoples personal properties they just simply didn't like regardless of class. Stealing peoples personal belongings is autistic. I think that A constitutional federal socialist republic could have prevented this. People should have clear and unalienable rights under any government and had this been the case under the Cultural Revolution we might be able to look back on it positively.

What do you think leftypol?
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Stagnation of Music


Why the fuck is music stagnating and sounding the same? Every band sounds like a throwback back, every artist sounds like a throwback artist.

Listen to this 2021 "trap" remix. Half the songs there sound like just a very slightly better produced version of the whole dubstep thing from 10 years ago. You could go back in time and have literally mixed 70% of these songs into a dubstep mix maybe with tempo slightly slowed for some of them from 2009/2010 and no one would have been the wiser.

Is it capitalist realism combined with capitalism making being an artist/musician too financially difficult? combined with ADHD from too much terminal online-ness and social media use?

Even relatively "newly" popular genres are really just extrapolations of shit that happened before, mumble rap for example is just based on trap/triplet beats from the 2000s, their names (lil [insert]) are just stolen from lil wayne/bow wow, etc. Even modern pop like Billy Eilish just seems lame and recycled like a low rent Lana Del Rey.

Has every type of music just been created already? Was the 2010s just the end of musical history and I missed it? Am I just becoming a boomer or something or does anyone else agree?
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Let's talk about Turkmenistan

Why is it that we never hear about Turkmenistan in the medias?
What is the economic structure of the country? Is it still dominated by the public-sector like in Belarus or is it mostly privatized?
What is their current stance regarding Communist activism? Do the government compromise with them or do they repress them?

Some info regarding the country:

<Little-Known Turkmenistan About to Become Known for Its Big Problems

>All three analysts suggest that there are many reasons to be concerned about the problems that Turkmenistan faces but point out that any accurate assessment of just how serious and immediate these problems are is hampered by the lack of reliable statistics from Ashgabat and the brutal censorship the Turkmenistani government imposes on its media. According to Kazantsev, as far as access to information is concerned, “Turkmenistan is comparable to North Korea”.
>These three analysts believe that Turkmenistan is probably going to be able to muddle along for a time. But all of them see a “worst-case scenario,” in which the state collapses into chaos under an Islamist insurgency, as more likely than a “best-case” one—in which it manages to transform itself into the Kuwait or Qatar of Central Asia, as its president has declared.
Source (glowie strategic reviews on Eurasia): https://jamestown.org/program/little-known-turkmenistan-become-known-big-problems/

<Turkmenistan, Now With Soviet-Style Deficits, on Brink of Explosion

>this Central Asian country now has an opposition based abroad that is increasingly capable of providing leadership to local Turkmenistanis infuriated by the domestic situation they find themselves in as a result of the authorities’ oppressive policies.
>Because of falling earnings from its foreign sales of natural gas and the decision to reduce food imports as a result (see EDM, February 14, 2017 and May 19, 2020), Turkmenistan’s government has recreated on its territory something not seen elsewhere since Soviet times: empty shelves, long lines of people seeking to purchase anything available, efforts by individuals to raise money for food by selling other possessions, and ever more restrictive rationing
>None of this, of course, is being reported by state media, which continues to insist that all is well. The only news on this situation comes from media outlets operating outside the country that rely on reports from the domestic population. Those foreign-based sources are often ignored because their reliability is sometimes questioned and because the Turkmenistani authorities continue to insist all is well
>More and more of the few existing experts on Turkmenistan are now predicting a looming explosion. Vitaly Ponomaryev, who heads the Central Asia program at the Memorial Human Rights Center in Moscow, told the news agency Fergana a month ago that there have been three waves of opposition activity in Turkmenistan. The first two were suppressed quickly and brutally, but the third, which involves Turkmenistanis both at home and abroad, is gaining strength. However, because of Ashgabat’s tight control over the media and the failure of journalists to cooperate with Radio Liberty’s Turkmen Service (the only foreign broadcaster in the country), few have taken note of this development. Nonetheless, Ponomaryev argued that this combination of popular anger and new opposition leadership may finally change the situation in Turkmenistan.
>His reasoning rests on the rise of protest activity among the Turkmenistani diaspora in Turkey, Northern Cyprus, the United States and the Russian Federation along with the growing ability of these groups abroad to reach people at home via the internet. According to Ponomaryev, this link is a key to the future, and Turkmenistan’s government has responded by becoming somewhat more cautious in its approach to local protests. Earlier, the authorities would have sought to control the situation with mass arrests. But now, the analyst continued, the regime has brought far fewer criminal cases, although it still tries to intimidate the émigrés by bringing administrative charges against their relatives at home.
>This shift in the manner of crackdowns has changed the atmosphere in ways that favor the opposition. In the past, few of the country’s activists—at home or abroad—were willing to be identified under their own names out of fear of reprisals, Ponomaryev said. But now, most do share their names and other identifying information, indicating that they simultaneously feel the situation is becoming desperate and that they have lost some of their fear. “The Turkmen protest movement is a completely new phenomenon,” the Moscow-based analyst asserted. “Fifteen years or more ago, there was nothing like this in Turkmenistan. It has arisen spontaneously but developed very rapidly.” People there are tired of the repressive regime, and they are ever more willing to express their anger and listen to and work with émigré leaders.
>The diaspora is attracting more attention as well because a woman, Dursoltan Taganova, has now assumed a leadership role. Given that she follows in the wake of Belarus’s Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya, ever more people in Turkmenistan and elsewhere are starting to believe that she can do more than any earlier Turkmenistani opposition leader to challenge and ultimately overthrow the repressive regime back home (Azathabar.com, October 29). Whether she will be able to do so, and whether the worsening conditions combined with a lessening of fear within society will open the way for such an outcome, of course, remains to be seen. Ashgabat may return to its more repressive policies and ultimately succeed in suppressing the current wave of anger sweeping the country. But the increasingly dire economic situation there makes that less likely and gives hope that the real “last dictator” in the post-Soviet space may not be able to hold on much longer.
Source (notice how they keep claiming the country is on the edge of implosion despite nothing happening in years): https://jamestown.org/program/turkmenistan-now-with-soviet-style-deficits-on-brink-of-explosion/
From this article we deduce that the glowies are at it again, Turkmenistan is a secular, "permanently neutral state" that is has close economic ties with Iran, Russia and China (their main importer of natural gas), the latter becoming more and more important as their Belt and Road Initiative starts concreting. It is natural then that the US would try to interfere with the country's politics and try to establish a "free world aligned" 🇺🇸(🇺🇸(🇺🇸(liberal democracy)🇺🇸)🇺🇸)🇺🇸. They didn't even try to be original and put another women as a plant to appear woke to liberal zoomers, like they did in Belarus earlier in 2020.

<Human rights in Turkmenistan

<Notable bans
>Former Turkmenbashi Saparmurat Niyazov banned playing of video games, smoking in public, long hair on men, and even growing facial hair.
>News anchors, both men and women, were prevented from wearing any sort of make-up after Niyazov discovered he was unable to tell the difference between them when the presenters wore it.
<Freedom of religion
>According to Forum 18, despite international pressure, the authorities severely repress all religious groups, and the legal framework is so constrictive that many prefer to exist underground rather than have to pass through all of the official hurdles. Protestant Christian adherents are affected, in addition to groups such as Jehovah's Witnesses, Baháʼí, and Hare Krishna. Jehovah's Witnesses have been imprisoned and suffered beatings due to being conscientious objectors
>The United Nations Human Rights Committee has indicated that Jehovah's Witness in Turkmenistan have been prosecuted and imprisoned for refusing to perform compulsory military service
>A July 2003 issue of state-owned newspaper Adalat, published by the Ministry of Justice, printed a vitriolic attack against members of some religious groups, describing the groups as foreign and implying they were dangerous. There, the government continues to restrict the freedom of parents of Jehovah's Witnesses to raise their children in accordance with their religious beliefs.
<Freedom of expression
>According to Reporters Without Borders' 2006 World Press Freedom Index, Turkmenistan had the third-worst press freedom conditions in the world, behind North Korea and Burma. It is considered to be one of the ten most censored countries. Each broadcast under Niyazov began with a pledge that the broadcaster's tongue would shrivel if he slandered the country, flag, or president. While he was president, Niyazov controlled all Turkmen media outlets, and personally appointed journalists. Controversy surrounds the death of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty journalist Ogulsapar Myradowa, who was apparently tortured to death in September 2006 while in state detention
>The 🇺🇸(🇺🇸(🇺🇸(freelance journalists)🇺🇸)🇺🇸)🇺🇸 collaborating with international media are being closely watched by the state's security departments. Correspondents for Radio Free Europe are under constant harassment and risk their life and liberty. On April 18, 2008, freelance journalist Sona Chuli Kuli was interrogated for several days under physiological pressure and forced to sign a statement agreeing not to collaborate with the international media.
>Social networks such as Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are not accessible through the Turkmenet.
<Political freedom
>Any opposition to the government is considered treason and punishable by life imprisonment.
This claim was disproved from the glowie's own account in one of the previous article I linked.
<Restrictions on free and open communication
>The statement issued by the government indicated that all existing satellite dishes would have to be removed or destroyed in an effort by the government to fully block access of the population to many "hundreds of independent international media outlets" which are currently accessible in the country only through satellite dishes, including all leading international news channels in different languages. The main target of this campaign is Radio Azatlyk, the Turkmen-language service of Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty. It is the only independent source of information about Turkmenistan and the world in the Turkmen language and is widely listened to in the country."
Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_Turkmenistan & https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkmenistan

<LGBT rights in Turkmenistan

>Lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender (LGBT) persons in Turkmenistan face legal challenges not experienced by non-LGBT residents. Male homosexuality is illegal in Turkmenistan and is punished by imprisonment for a term of up to two years.
>Same-sex sexual activity: Male illegal, Female legal
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Turkmenistan
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Why do burgers seem unable to comprehend even the simplest Marxist concepts?

I mean it's like, so much of what Marx wrote is plainly self evident if you've ever had a job, and yet Muricans seem like, it seems like it even goes beyond propaganda, it's as though Americans are ACTIVELY trying not to understand Marxism on absolutely any level, it's like that joke in Spongebob where Patrick states that his stupidity fluctuates throughout the day and he actively chooses to be more or less stupid, that's the feeling I get whenever I try talking about Marxism with burgers
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Why is everyone except Grover Furr and some leftypol autists happy to accept stalin was a pretty shit?
Why is this issue still important to zoomers in america? every other stalinist is pushing 70 and has been pushed into irrelevance. why must we still pretend this nonsense matters, anons?
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Why does RD Wolff keep promoting Germany as an example of leftist social policy?

And more importantly when will he fucking stupid doing that shit?
I know for a fact he’s not that fuckin dumb….right?
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Does anyone agree on a definition of fascism? I've read that it's when the petite-bourge seize the state to protect their capital, I read Eco's Ur-fascism and he thinks it's pretty much anything. I've read it's when people use violence and intimidation to achieve their goals, when they wear uniforms or have a certain aesthetic, that Trump is a fascist, etc. etc.

So what is it exactly?
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Guatanomo Bay

So I understand why the U.S. allows the Guantanamo Bay prison to exist, but why does Cuba?
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/Architecture General/

A thread for discussing architectural styles and leftism, urban planning, the politics and political economy of cities and urban areas.
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Is there a more precise definition of "vulgar economist" than "person I don't like"?
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Communists fought the real life equivalent of LOTR in WWII

How can libs cope knowing that communists largely fought and won the most important conflict in human history?
How do fascoids cope knowing that they were the IRL equivalent of fucking orcs as far as everyone is concerned?
How do libs and fascoids cope knowing that communists are the actual heroes of history?

No this isn’t cringe, stop saying it’s cringe
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How can anyone be an ancap?

Even most porkies know how fucking retarded ancap is, pretty much every capitalist with any real power would bust out laughing if you propose that anarcho-capitalism is the way to go and hell I’d imagine they’d even chuckle at the slightly less retarded lolbertism.
Like, ancap as a philosophy is pretty damn close to unironically believing in superheroes or movie style vigilantism when you ask these people how the fuck their society is supposed to function, like, when you speak to an ancap and get them to acknowledge that the NAP is effectively meaningless you hit a point where they aren’t even advocating feudalism but some sort of savage territorialism where individual families hold small plots and execute each other for access to them
Like fuck I genuinely can’t even comprehend how the fuck a market is supposed to work without a state so in my explanations of ancap I genuinely can’t even explain how the fuck capitalism is meant to exist in this context

How the fuck can anyone fall for such idiotic tripe?
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So a communist society would abolish capital and the capitalist conception of Value, instead producing and distributing goods based on use values, right?

Wouldn't that necessarily empower a caste of bureaucrats, managers and intellectuals to determine the 'values' of different human needs and how best to satisfy them? Is communism attractive to educated professionals mostly because it would grant them power and status in the future social order?
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Can anyone provide resources for what the effects of colonialism are on the colonized? I've heard people on the right wing make arguments such as "But we left technology behind for the Africans to use!" and that already sounds like cherry picking some small piece of information to characterize the whole thing as positive. I am already aware of the book "How Europe underdeveloped Africa" and ordered it. Anything else though? An article I can read online or another book? Perhaps an effort post debunking those right wing talking points or something that does shed light on the positive effects of colonialism on the colonized.
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Fascism in 20th century Europe was mainly just authoritarian social democracy. Basically a way to cope with the crisis of Capitalism on one hand by buying off parts of the working class with socdem concessions while also scapegoating racial/ethnic minorities like jews, gypsies, etc. for the problems of capitalism like the great depression. A lot of the aesthetics of fascism, red color scheme etc. are ripped off of Soviet Marxism. Fascism is the ultimate LARP ideology because it ripped off the aesthetics (and even the name socialism) from the left to pretend to be revolutionaries, combining influences from conservatism, monarchism, capitalism, and Marxism, to create something that transcended and also rejected all of them.

Essentially, it's most useful to see fascism as a right wing parody of revolutionary socialism, replacing it with revolutionary nationalism. Many fascists were ex socialists who kept the rejection of liberal democracy and realized the system was untenable but thought class wasn't a sufficient basis for a revolution like in WWI when people chose their nation over their class in imperialist wars.

Right wingers are at their core, reactionaries, both in terms of the "arrow of history" and also literally, just as white right wing Americans would chant "white power" at civil rights protestors saying black power, and "white lives matter", literally doing an erase and replace where they attempt to seize the moral mantle of the oppressed underdog and portray the backlash of the workers/oppressed movement to capitalism as the source of the problem, so fascism is not a backlash, but a backlash to a backlash, a "revolution against revolution".
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Take the Sorel pill

what do you think of Sorel? He said we should replace the proletariat with the national community.
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Can anyone debunk this?

im kind of at a loss for words with this one guys. are they really like this?
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/pol/ is still popular as fuck.

It seems as if the right has quite a lot more vigor than I thought it did, though /pol/ is the most active board on 4chan still, it is also the most boring. How come they're still around?
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The culture war problem

Half of the working class is permissive on social issues and the other half is conservative/traditionalist. Class unity requires both halves to work together, but it's unlikely that liberals can tolerate religious conservatives and vice versa. Lenin had both the industrial workers and the peasants, how can the modern left unite the working class when they are so divided by cultural issues?

Do you see woke radlibs tolerating anti LGBT chuds who are nevertheless for a minimum wage? What about rural rednecks who want more gibs but are anti abortion and casually racist (and also they're spooked by the word socialism because socialism=communism=atheism which of course basically = SATAN)?
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News 2/16/21

Turkish army humiliated by PKK in Iraqi Kurdistan as it is forced to retreat with ‘the blood of its own people on its hands’
TURKEY’s military operation against the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) in Iraqi Kurdistan has ended in humiliation, with forces retreating on Sunday after air strikes killed 13 Turkish soldiers. The HPG, the military wing of the PKK, said that Operation Claw Eagle 2 had failed and that Turkey, which has Nato’s second-largest army, had been forced to leave with the blood of its own people on its hands.

Policeman Killed By IED Planted By CPI Maoist Cadres In Lohardaga District
A policeman who was wounded by an IED planted by CPI (Maoist) cadres in Lohardaga district succumbed to his injuries at a Ranchi hospital a few hours later on Tuesday. According to police, the incident took place at around 9:45 am when a search operation was conducted by a joint team of the CRPF and state police.

Bengal Polls: Left-Congress Clinch Seat-Sharing Deal, Leave Room for New Entrants
It is learnt that the Left-Congress alliance has also kept some seats for parties, such as the Rashtriya Janata Dal (RJD) and Nationalist Congress Party (NCP), who have expressed willingness to fight both Trinamool Congress (TMC) and Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP).

Bolsonaro Relaxes Gun Laws Amid Fears of Increased Violence
The new regulations announced on February 13 also expand the ammunition capacity that owners can acquire from 1 000 units per year up to 5 000 across a range of categories such as collectors, snipers, and hunters. Also, government officials, including magistrates, members of the Public Ministry, and prison officers, can purchase up to two restricted-use guns.

Revealed: Monsanto owner and US officials pressured Mexico to drop glyphosate ban
Internal government emails reveal Monsanto owner Bayer AG and industry lobbyist CropLife America have been working closely with US officials to pressure Mexico into abandoning its intended ban on glyphosate, a pesticide linked to cancer that is the key ingredient in Monsanto’s Roundup weedkillers.

Tehran denies involvement in Erbil attack that left 1 American dead, says Iran won’t jeopardize Iraq’s ‘stability and security’
“Iran considers the stability and security of Iraq a key issue for the region and its neighbors and rejects any action that disturbs the peace and order in this country,” he added. Khatibzadeh said Iran would call on the Iraqi authorities to thoroughly investigate the attack and ensure the perpetrators are dealt with.

Israel court rules to expel six Palestinian families from East Jerusalem homes
A Jerusalem district court has issued a decision to evict six families from their homes in the Sheikh Jarrah neighbourhood of occupied East Jerusalem, where they have lived for almost 70 years, to make way for Israeli settlers.

Kunduz airstrike: European rights court rules German response was adequate
German courts and prosecutors thoroughly investigated a 2009 NATO bombing in Afghanistan that killed dozens of civilians, the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) ruled on Tuesday. The decision comes after years of battles in German courts, who have ruled that the German officer behind the strike did not act improperly.

==Cummings played central role in awarding contract to his mates' company, court document reveals
witness statement submitted to the High Court today as part of a judicial review of the award, the former aide to Prime Minister Boris Johnson denied that he had asked for the Public First agency to receive a contract because bosses there were his pals, claiming he would “never do such a thing.”

Dutch govt appeals court order to scrap coronavirus curfew
A Dutch court ordered the government Tuesday to end the curfew it imposed last month to rein in the spread of the coronavirus, saying the ruling coalition was not entitled to use emergency powers to enforce the restrictive measure.
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News 2/17/21

Spanish police fire rubber bullets after Barcelona protest demanding rapper’s release descends into riots (VIDEOS)
Hasel, whose real name is Pablo Rivadulla Duro, was arrested earlier on Tuesday after barricading himself inside the University of Lleida in Catalonia. He is to serve a nine-month sentence handed down in 2018 over song lyrics and tweets regarding disgraced former monarch Juan Carlos I, and a social media post praising a Spanish Maoist terrorist group.

Nepal PM Oli says ruling party leaders tried to form a parallel government
Defending his move to dissolve the House of Representatives, Nepal Prime Minister K P Sharma Oli has blamed some leaders of the ruling Nepal Communist Party (NCP) for attempting to form a "parallel government".

Communist MP wants top Russian TV host prosecuted for calling Hitler ‘a very brave man’ in debate about comparisons with Navalny
Following Solovyov’s statement, Communist party MP Valery Rashkin asked the authorities to investigate whether the TV host had broken the law. Russia has stringent restrictions against what it calls the ‘rehabilitation of Nazism’.

German solider to stand trial over race war plot
AGERMAN soldier who planned to inflame a race war by attacking politicians and human rights campaigners while posing as a Syrian refugee will face trial in May, a Frankfurt court ruled on Tuesday. The 32-year-old has been accused of the “preparation of a serious act of violence that endangers the state,” along with the illegal possession of weapons and explosives.

Germany's Die Linke party reaffirms support for Cuba
Germany's Die Linke (The Left) socialist party reaffirmed its support for Cuba and the democratic processes, in a resolution released on Tuesday. Solidarity with socialist Cuba and its Revolution was, is, and will be maintained by Die Linke,' states the text, which was approved during a meeting of the organization's presidency.

Colombia: New Massacre Leaves 5 Dead and One Injured
"The attack occurred on Tuesday around 21h00 local time on a coffee farm in the La Ermita village," Molano explained, adding that local authorities are identifying the victims. A survivor told local outlets that five hooded men armed with long-range weapons intimidated the farmers and locked them in a room to shoot them.

Grenfell: Arconic boss says fire safety tests were not his 'priority'
The boss of the company that made the Grenfell Tower cladding has said it was not his "priority" to understand fire safety tests and certificates. Claude Schmidt, president of Arconic, told the inquiry into the fire that he only learned about a key British fire safety standard after the disaster.

Government accused of making ‘seven years of empty promises’ of investment in Northern Powerhouse
“If ministers are serious about helping every part of the country recover from the events of the past year, we need to see action — not their trademark bluster and delaying tactics.” Northern mayors and trade union leaders have also written to Transport Secretary Grant Shapps urging him to rethink the 40 per cent cuts he announced to the region’s budget for rail improvements.

Toronto residents deliver cockroaches to landlords trying to evict them
A Toronto resident group fighting a wave of evictions in the Crescent Town neighbourhood delivered a mesage to their landlord Monday—in the form of live roaches caught in their own homes. Seventeen families are currently facing evictions from their apartments at Crescent Place, a trio of buildings owned by Pinedale Properties.

Israel blocked Covid vaccines from entering Gaza, say Palestinians
The Palestinian Authority said a planned transfer of Russian Sputnik V vaccine doses to the coastal enclave, which is geographically disconnected from the West Bank where the authority is headquartered, was blocked on Monday at an Israeli checkpoint.
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do you even need theory to be a good leftist

i have a lot of friends involved IWW and SRA and such who don't even read theory but have done great things. Do you need to ready theory to be a good leftist? Or do you need to be in orgs to be a good leftist? This is all arbitrary but i'd love to hear your thoughts
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Thoughs on Caleb Maupin?

Learned about bunkerchan from his youtube livestreams. His ideology is probably the closest of any MLs to my own. I have one of his books and hope to get others. Also thoughts on his Center for political innovation?
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Am I the only anon here to have read Hobsbawm’s book series?

Every few months I make a post about the Age of… series written by Eric Hobsbawm which covers history from the French Revolution to the fall of the Soviet Union
Each time I get almost no responses
Has Leftypol finally given up on reading?
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Racism vs IDPOL

IMO racism and racial oppression is more real than other types of idpol, at least in burgerland. Feminism has already mostly succeeded and LGBT people have rights, no one even dislikes gays anymore except evangelical rednecks etc. In most major metropolitan areas LGB people are accepted, the only even slightly controversial one is trans people.

OTOH oppression of minorities through economic deprivation and police brutality and over incarceration still hasn't made that much progress since the 80s/90s. Women's rights have made real progress but race stuff really hasn't or at least not that much.

You can't compare police murdering of blacks to some spoiled white upper middle class enby on a campus of Yale/Brown/Vassar moaning about pronouns.

Maybe this isn't the same case in Africa, Eastern Europe, LatAm to the same extent, but in burgerland it is.
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>Schools Action Union did not arise from a single moment; rather, it was the culmination of a broad and varied range of protests at home and abroad. One of these, in March 1968, saw hundreds of pupils from the Myles Platting Secondary Modern school in Manchester stage a school strike in response to the excessive use of the tawse, a pronged leather strap. Soon after, students from the strike formed the Manchester Union of Secondary Students. This was joined shortly thereafter by the Swansea Union of Progressive Students, the Bristol Sixth Form Alliance, and the Cardiff Union of Secondary Schools.

>The most dramatic moment came on May 17, 1972, when ten thousand school children went on strike. Central London came to a standstill as police struggled to contain crowds marching through the streets with banners reading “No To The Cane.” Unwilling to let the children occupy Trafalgar Square as they had intended, the officers dispersed the children across London in large groups, arresting many of the organizers in the process.

>On May 17, 1972, ten thousand British kids walked out of school to protest corporal punishment — and force authorities to change the law.

So you are telling me that kids in the 70's could mobilize 10 000 students to fight corporal fucking punishment but the left today can't must3r a few thousand to fight for the future of our fucking species? What went wrong? Why did rebelliousness dissapear amongst people?
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The only war where the US was unequivocally the good guy was against itself

>Inb4 autists screech about how evil doesn’t technically exist as though this is fucking reddit and as if Maoists and MLs don’t call shit out as evil all the fucking time so long as it’s convenient
Anyway ain’t it kinda funny how the only time the US was decided not on the wrong side of history was when it fought itself? Even when they were fighting the Axis they were mostly trying to BTFO Germany/Japan and capitalize on France/Britain being BTFO to become the ruler of the capitalist world, more like a vulture than a paragon.

But when the burned the land of the slavers to ash? Fucking based
The US should destroy itself more often, methinks
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>Terrorism is, in the broadest sense, the use of intentional violence for political or religious purposes. It is used in this regard primarily to refer to violence during peacetime or in the context of war against non-combatants (mostly civilians and neutral military personnel).

If Terrorism doesn't work why do people keep using it? It's adventurist and even less effective than peaceful protests which can at least point to certain successes like Civil Rights, etc.

Is there an example in history of terrorism actually achieving it's goals? And why does it fail most of the time?
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News 2/15/21

Anti-fascists protest at annual commemoration of Bulgarian pro-Nazi general Hristo Lukov
Neonazis have held rallies in honour of Lukov, the head of the fascist and anti-semitic Union of Bulgarian National Legions from 1932-43, since 2003 on February 13, the anniversary of his 1943 assassination by communist partisans Ivan Burudzhiev and Violeta Yakova, the latter of whom was hunted down and executed aged just 21 the following year.

Separatists grow majority in Catalonia despite Socialist win
With 99% of the votes counted, the three main parties pledging to carve out an independent Catalan state increased their number of seats in the regional parliament to 74. In 2017, those same parties won 70 seats of the 135-seat chamber, just two above the majority.

India: Environmental Activist Arrested for Alleged Conspiracy
Delhi Police also intend to arrest Nikita Jacob and Shantanu Muluk, both of whom are accused of drafting with Ravi a document that allegedly seeks to create "disinformation and discontent" against the government. Lawyer Prashant Bhushan, writer Arundhati Roy, and 18 other personalities denounced the "absurd accusations" against Ravi and indicated that they seek to criminalize dissent and social protests.

Leftist opposition party heads to victory in Kosovo election
With 65% of the votes counted by the central Election Commission, the main governing election body, the left-wing Self-Determination Movement Party, or Vetevendosje, had 48% of the votes. It led two center-right parties — the Democratic Party of Kosovo, or PDK, which had 18%, and the Democratic League of Kosovo, or LDK, with 14%.

Dozens of Houthis and pro-government troops killed in Yemen's Marib
Dozens of fighters were killed in overnight clashes in Yemen as Iran-backed Houthi rebels intensified attacks to seize the government's last northern stronghold, officials told AFP on Sunday. Earlier this month, the Houthis resumed an offensive to seize oil-rich Marib, some 120km east of the capital Sanaa. The city's loss would be disastrous for Yemen's beleaguered leadership.

Police fire at anti-coup protesters in Myanmar as clashes intensify (GRAPHIC VIDEO)
There were reports that the military was also deployed to quash the unrest. The clashes in Myitkyina reportedly ensued after the authorities demanded the company that runs the plant cut off the electricity. The purported video of the showdown shows demonstrators fleeing in disarray amid a series of loud blasts and flashes.

Argentina's Government Denounces Presence of US Submarine
"The Argentine government expresses its serious concern over information that emerged from the official Twitter account of the Commander, Submarine Force Atlantic, by which it is pointed out that they would have recently operated with British support in the South Atlantic," the Foreign Ministry expresses.

Purged Labour party members to print their own membership cards in act of defiance
The new cards will bear the original Clause IV of the party’s constitution, calling for the common ownership of industry which was rewritten under New Labour leader Tony Blair. Terry Deans, who was suspended last year, said: “We are not leaving the party, nor are we starting a new party.

Armed Attack Against Inhabitants Of Cuatro Venados, Oaxaca
Our families are worried of what could become a blood bath in our communities. There are rumors that they want to attack our community again, just as they did on May 31, 2019. On that day, more than 500 people demolished our houses with heavy machinery, burning our corn and stealing our cattle. Just like today, they were all armed with high caliber weapons.

Brazil accumulates 240,000 Covid-19 deaths
Brazil reported 239,245 deaths from Covid-19, after 713 deaths on Sunday, the Ministry of Health informed. The epidemiological briefing also indicated that there were 24,759 contagions in the same period, so Brazil's total number of Covid-19 cases jumped to 9,834,513. In addition, the updated bulletin noted that 8,745,424 patients have recovered and 849,044 remain under medical screening.
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What are your thoughts on Georgism?
Do you agree with a land value tax?
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Is there a material explanation for trends such as abstract art, concept art, slam poetry, etc?
Conservatives love to talk about the decay of art, although I think most of them really just use the supposed fall of aesthetic quality as an excuse to attack what really bothers them, which is liberal values in mainstream art. They tend to blame this decay on things such as cultural Marxism, relativism, etc, the kinds of vague nefarious forces they think we need social conservatism to oppose.
This is such a favorite attack point for right-wingers in general that it makes me think leftists ought to be able to offer an alternative explanation. I think it's easy to explain how capitalism is responsible for all the homogenized Marvel and Netflix shit in popular entertainment, but I'm curious about trends in the "higher" arts. Most people find it difficult to see value in abstractionism or minimalism yet to the extent that there is a mainstream in eg painting modern art seems to thoroughly dominate it. Why?
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Starting a revolution would be easy.
Just free the prisoners.
It worked for spartacus, he almost overthrew rome.
There's like 2 million prisoners in the US or even more. Thats a good chunk.
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Is the harm done irreversible?

Is the harm done regarding climate change irreversible by now? We have not done enough and it looks like we will still not do enough to effectively combat climate change. I'm just wondering, hypothetically, if humans died off (for whatever reason) in 2050, could Earth recover?
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>world's richest man is leader of a company that loses money and creates cars that kill you/rockets that blow up
>everything is costing more, massive inflation everywhere, but government says there's no inflation
>no jobs, no houses, only choice to live for most people is doing gig-shit
>stock market and crypto constantly pushing ATHs because of massive money printing and speculator frenzy

how will the party end?
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Agitprop thread

I recently had the idea that we should use the focus on black lives matter to bring attention to flaws of capitalism, we should make infographics in the style of protest art that talk about things like France's exploitative relationship with African countries, wealth extraction, the gulf states still having slavery, black people in Libya being sold in open air slave markets when they previously had it good under Gaddafi. Sneak in the leftist vegetables in the junk food of idol. We could reach a quite a few people with short easily spreadable images with these ideas.
We should also come up with ideas to reach other demographics that can be radicalized, despondent Berniekrats, people who are anxious about ecological damage, alienated, atomized individuals. People suffering from economic conditions and more. Come up with ideas and agitprop in this thread
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Defund the military-intelligence-industrial complex

Why doesn't this idea get more traction? Organizations like the CIA, the NSA, us army, etc. Have done far, far, far more damage to the world that the US police. The police have beat black people? The CIA has literally had death squads murder brown people who objected to their nations oil being siphoned off by Exxon Mobil. The police monitor and surveil minority neighborhoods? The FBI wiretapped MLK and did everything they could to undermine Civil Rights and the anti war protests.

They literally do every bad thing the police does, but on a bigger scale, with a bigger budget, more high tech gear, and across the world instead of just burgerland?

Shouldn't a principled "defund the police" person also say defund the CIA/FBI? yet you have people who said ACAB like 6 months ago now simping for the fucking FBI.
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Academics are proles

What's witth this /r/stupidpol meme that academics are not proles. First, in burgerland and canada Masters and PhDs often take the form of a normal wagie position, in which you are employed in one part for menial academic jobs, like grading papers, teaching people, assisting in a lab doing chores, and when it's worse, you do the lowest jobs ever, like working in the cafeteria, or literally doing chores like the normal servant you are. There is also the academic side, in which you literally work for the university, a lot universities in canada accept this too, in there you are literally paid money to research, because they know, some times they don't even employ you in something else directly, but rather force you to be employed with poverty wages. Secondly, academics suffer from the worse evils of capitalism, with long hours that you are force to fufill because of the university quotas, and the labour laws don't cover you, and when they do, the university often forces you to work more than the regular working day, like first world equivalent to what's like working in south america These positions are often associated with depression and suicide, with people developing serious mental illnesses just by the sheer allienation that you have from your own mental capacities. You can become part of the surplus population too, and ending up destitute, if somehow the university doesn't like you anymore. And it's the same shit when you are not a student, and are graduated, except you do the work side by being a teacher, and still have simmilar constraints. This is the exception when you become a department head, or get a serious position, in which case you status as a prole, can be iffy, because you can get sometimes part of the profit of the people you handle, but not always, a lot of times, you are just a simmilar prole working 18 h a day, but grading papers, and working with money instead.
This is why the meme of the communist grad student is half true. these people are very smart, enough to know their class postion, and are succeptible to radicalization.
So why are the academics and students not included more often in the labour movement?
image to bait you into clicking my thread
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Too much to read

It's hard to read everything, and it's difficult to read all the stuff Marxists publish while we're in a revolutionary stance. I mean the goal is to fuck up the people ruling and doing our stuff right? So why should I read millions of words about culture and shit under capitalism?
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>you aren't a Ruguanist
Explain yourself.
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Great leftist speeches

Itt contribute great speeches or writings from leftwing historical figures. So we can enjoy the inspiration, learn the ideas and spread them on the interwebs
Eugene v debs speech to the court is in 1919 one of great speeches of the history of the left.
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Good Leftist Online Publications?

I am only aware of Jacobin and Current Affairs. I would like some that aren't anglo-centric, so I can learn what's going on in the rest of the world.

YouTube recommendations are also fine, but please only recommend the ones that don't talk about domestic American affairs as those are dime a dozen.
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be honest...

What books have you actually read?
What book do you recommend to anons here to read?
What are you planning to read?

The only political books I've read is 1984, Animal Farm, Communist Manifesto, The Prince, first chapter of Capital and the Thesis on Feurbach.
I'm 24, it's over for me, isn't it….
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Is PMC an actual class?

I keep hearing about the term PMC used a lot by various sorts of people and it seems like it does have validity even if it doesn't line up with classical marxist definitions of the term class and how it's relationship with the means of production is defined. That being said there is obviously various flavors of heirarchies for workers, such as the military and then you have the PMC who lords over the regular proles such as people who work in McDonalds or in like mines.
That being said I can't help but notice that the actual PMC isn't really as woke as stupidpol would like you to believe it is (because it seems like stupidpol's politics isn't actually very popular) but what do I know about anything.
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How important is the "dialectical" part of Marxism?

I read through most major works of Marx, Engels and Lenin. However, I've been dodging the more Hegel-heavy texts like the German Ideology or the Feuerbach critique (not the short theses).

Honestly, why should I care about them? Whatever dialectical method Marx employed in Kapital, I can already read his results. The political, historical, economical and sociological works of Marx and Lenin are enough to get a gist of how their argumentation methods work. Besides, isn't it disputed how Hegel-heavy later Marx works are? And why does Engels go full autist in Dialectics of Nature?

I am willing to change my mind on this topic if anons can provide a good explanation as to why a Marxist should care about dialectical materialism.
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German youth movement and paramilitary groups

I recently learned about the anti nazi you gangs in ww2 germany

>The strict regimentation of youth culture in Nazi Germany through the Hitler Youth led to the emergence of several underground protest movements, through which adolescents were better able to exert their independence. There were street gangs (Meuten) of working class youths who borrowed elements from socialist and communist traditions to forge their own identities, and there were less politically motivated groups, such as the Edelweiss Pirates (German: Edelweißpiraten), who acted in defiance of Hitler Youth norms. A third group, consisting mainly of upper middle class youths(although with some working class members), based their protest on their musical preferences, rejecting the völkisch music propagated by the party for American jazz forms, especially swing.

What can we learn from the germans on civil guard and youth groups?