Reading General:Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.
Welcome Thread and Feedback - TECHNICAL UPDATE!A big thanks to the /leftypol/ tech team for their hard work on the 2021/07/04 technical update! Here's the list of changes:
/prc/ - People's Republic of China generalA general thread for all China related discussion.
On progressivismProgressivism is a threat to society, whether for leftists, or even for centrists. They blur the line between "leftism" and "neoliberalsm" by juxtaposing both under the umbrella term of "leftism". They brand everyone who disagree with them as a "Nazi" or "right-wing" or a "white supremacist", even if that person is indeed a centrist who stands by his opinions, or even a left-winger.
SentienceLet's stop thinking about sentience as exclusive to humans and mammals but rather as a state of self awareness found in objects that posses the following traits
are..we the bad guys?The vaccine makes the virus stronger.
How powerful are US intelligence agencies?Leftists seem to speak of these intelligence agencies as all-knowing, all-powerful entities that can squash any political movement they don't like and overthrow any government they don't like. They also allegedly control all US media outlets (except maybe Grayzone, but they may be controlled by Chinese or Russian intelligence agencies instead) and all US political organizations (including ostensibly socialist orgs like DSA and CPUSA). How much power do these agencies actually have?
On the Soviet invasion of AfghanistanThe PDPA killed tens of thousands, pushed unpopular policies that hurt people, and the USSR waged total war killing 500k to 2m civilians. If you think Maoists and even anarchists being part of the mujahideen in the opposition of that is bad, then that's disgusting. The Mujahijdeen were freedom fighters, not terrorists. A small faction of veterans of the war broke off to oppose the mujahideen government.
"The Workers"An image beloved of both the internet right and the left. The worker. "Imagine going up to a worker", they say, "and saying what you've just said." Often they are specific: The steelworker, the tired coal miner, the teamster, etc. But one must ask: what does the worker of today look like?
GLOBAL POPULATION DECLINE>With widespread, sustained declines in fertility, the world population will likely peak in 2064 at around 9.7 billion, and then decline to about 8.8 billion by 2100 – about 2 billion lower than some previous estimates, according to a new study. Improvements in access to modern contraception and the education of girls and women are generating widespread, sustained declines in fertility
"The older you get the more conservative you become"Yet that doesnt feel like the case as I've gotten older I've only resented capitalism more and more it's been documented that Good working conditions, Embracing rapid technological growth, Increasing population densities and the size of cities along with promoting Full employment are the biggest factors behind the rapid accumulation of material wealth for an economy, all of whom are almost never promoted in capitalist societies like the united states if profit is lost, neoliberal cities like New York city, paris, sao Paulo, tokyo, London etc feel like hell on earth due to the rampant homelessness, crime, corruption, poverty and wealth inequality that occur in those cities, problems that could easily be fixed in a month at most yet keep themselves alive because neoliberal policies keep them alive as it generates profit. Hell most of the "successful" buissnesses like amazon and apple dont even make an actual profit anymore they get their money directly off tax payer money to fulfill government interests but the tax payer is completely alienated from any of the benefits these borderline government institutions bring, this is all happening while technological innovation is actually decelerating in growth if not halting completely like what's going on in Europe while companies like Pfizer and moderna are making billions off scamming people to take a never ending barrage of nonworking vaccines. Whatever the fuck happens to the rich in the near future is anyone's guess but it's not gonna be a pretty site for them as they're causing alot of problems and at this point are viewed by me less like hardworking individuals or at the very least individuals that were smart enough to organize people into doing great things but rather as international thieves and scammers
Animals and the Mentally DeficientDo mentally deficient people on the level of animals produce value? Let's say you employ an absolute retard rather than a bull to pull your trolley. Why is the bull constant capital and the retard variable capital? Or do retards count as constant capital?
Individualism vs. CollectivismI wanted to respond to the post about "communism as conservatism" but the jannies deleted it. I resist!
/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General5th Edition: Real succdem hour edition
Cuban Situation General /csg/Last one got Full Continued from >>382756
Anarchism General 3.0 -Orsetti EditionThread for the discussion of Anarchism.
/auspol/ - Australia General IIThread dedicated to the discussion of Australian politics and events.
Counter contrarian view: small online internet communities should be purgedOne could say that small online internet communities allow people to distance themselves away from the monotony of MSM and normalfag media but what ends up happening in broken down communities is all that happens is a new cult is created, one only has to notice how every fucking(and I repeat) every fucking /pol/ user on this board consistently posts the same types of threads with so little variation that you know who wrote them before even bothering to read their posts, bunkerchan isnt different being that the cult mentality found within its users isnt different with a significant portion of members justifying events like the holodomor or showing blind support for terrorist groups that attack their own people. With other small boards like stormfront obscure reddit communities and sites like 16chan and 8chan the cult like mentality is strong enough that you can find reports of people being driven to suicide, young men committing domestic terrorism to fit in with board culture or on discord when it was still obscure with stories like rico that lead to 100s of victims getting doxed and blackmailed to serve the interests of perverted communities. Unified platforms arent perfect but there are times when I feel like I have more freedom of speech on sites like YouTube's comment section than on blue boards and nsfw boards on 4chan simply because community sizes are too large for any group to organize anything significant much less initiate any psychological damage to themselves or others
Socialist Realismwhy did stalin ban the avant garde? Why did he have to make art conform to his shit tier taste?
Where is the rigorWhere the actual fuck is any kind of mathematical theory describing marginalist theory?
The Boring Manifesto: a spiritual guide to revolutionary aestheticsThe title is clickbait, but I dare you to heed these words:
Should I buy a T-90 for the revolution?>The T-90A was deployed to Syria in 2015 to support the Russian involvement in the Syrian Civil War. In early February 2016, Syrian Army forces began using T-90As in combat. In late February, a video was leaked on the internet which showed a T-90 survive a direct frontal turret hit by a TOW missile in Aleppo.
Esoteric Hitlerism General: AFAP Edition (ALL FASCISTS ARE PEDOS)This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.
News 7/30/21Tens of thousands take to streets of Guatemala demanding resignation of president
Marx and Joint ProductionHow is value determined in the case of joint production?
Stepford PeopleI am doing a USA tour and the most striking thing is all the fakeness in people's behaviour. Fake smiles, fake kindness, fake attitude in general. Everyone looks like the women from that story Stepford wives, only itnis everybody. How is USA society still function on so many layers of pretend? Isn't almost everyone mentally ill due to all this acting all the time?
OC Thread 9.0Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
Fuck PKK - They are Not CommunistsStop it, even Castro hated those faggots. They always had been funded by imperial-core and there are proofs for that
This is what working class leaders look likeNot your children of slave traders like Fidel Castro whos parents owned massive amounts of land.
Crypto-MMT-value theory hybrid to take over the worldrepost
Effective AltruismWhat does /leftypol/ think about the Effective Altruism movement?
How do liberals keep ignoring this? I can't take their denial anymorehttps://twitter.com/TrumpJew2/status/1421162434321072129?s=20
/brg/ Brasil General /brg/Tv Senado 24h Pay-per-view edition
/Larouche/ shitpostingIt is obvious to me that the Neo Aristolean British Venitian Elites have placed their cards in the college institutions. We are dealing with PURE LOBOTOMY. YOU GOT THAT? An entire generation of babbling idiots. We must return to the policies of FDR and GET THE FASCIST BRITISH BANKERS OUT. Biden is clearly a tool of London like a modern-day Benedict Arnold. He is clinically impaired to the point where WE KNOW who is running things. It's the Trilateral Commission. Who funds them? THE ROCKEFELLERS. THE ROCKEFELLERS ARE RUN FROM LONDON! Completely British controlled. SATAN, PURE SATAN.
Lived in China for several years as an English TeacherAMA, I spent a few years in China between the years 2008-2012 as an English teacher among many other jobs. i will answer any and all questions you guys may have about my time and experiences there, please don't move this thread mods.
Thoughts on "survivors of Communism"I've seen a lot of stories on the Internet regarding… survivors of Communism? Are they really "survivors"? Or are they just seeking freedom after being brainwashed internally by CIA psyops asking them to flee (x) and we reward you with
Are fed agents really watching anyone on this board?With the amount of VPN usage, false flagging, larping, and hacking that occurs on this site and the land of obscure imageboards as a whole collecting information on the people that browse imageboards would be exceptionally difficult especially when you consider that multiple people can be using the same IP address or addresses that lead to dead ends or imageboard users can simply live in countries that the cia goons and the FEDs have little control over. On top of that it's been documented on sites like stormfront and 8Kun the feds have repeatedly failed to prevent outbreaks of terrorism or the sharing of cheese pizza and amount to nothing more than a boogeyman on most imageboards to derail threads that could reveal the information of anons. Am I right or does someone have anything to counter me
2022 Olympics thread!Thread revolves around the 2022 Olympics! What do you guys think about the Games? What do you guys think of the boycott? Would this game gross high on tickets? Would this game be a time when China flexes its new stuff to the world? Would this game invite huge protests (particularly in the Western world)? Would this game Would this game be a safe one, or would it be a super-spreader event? Would you like to buy its merch, or wouldn't you?
Thoughts on censorship?What do you guys think about censorship? Particularly those done by seemingly "authoritarian" regimes like China and North Korea and to a lesser extent Vietnam, Indonesia, Thailand, Cambodia, and Russia? Are they beneficial? Does that enhance a country's online security? Or is it something that bis more like taking the bluepill by the fact that you can't access to different viewpoints, instead just seeing the same "I'M RIGHT, YOU'RE WRONG" mentality by the government?
/DPRK/ - Democratic People's Republic of Korea GeneralThread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.
Opinion: How U.S. Global Infrastructure Push Will Affect Belt and RoadTLDR: the BBBW is too late and not enough
/grek/ Greek nhmaNHMA GIA SYZHTHSH THS ELLHNIKHS POLITIKHS PRAGMATIKOTHTAS
Any left-wing foreign affairs sites?I would like to ask you guys for links or names of left-wing foreign affairs sites that are not part of mainstream media or far-right alternative media. I would like to read them. I'm interested on those topics.
Why do leftists fight so much?I don't understand all the hate between Anarchists, Maoists, Stalinists, Marxists, Left Libertarians etc. I've never seen such splintering and hostility between people who want nearly the same thing. The right wing is far more unified even if they have different beliefs and are just better at getting their message across to the masses. Meanwhile, on leftypol, stalinists are telling Trotsky supporter to go kill themselves.
Africa GeneralAs asked by these users
J. PosadasHas anyone read the works of J. Posadas?
News 7/29/21British-based Kurds demand action after attack of author on ‘Erdogan hit list’
Evictions CrisisMillions of evictions and foreclosures will start being processed in two days.
What is the materialist view of him?>Juhayman ibn Muhammad ibn Sayf al-Otaybi (Arabic: جهيمان بن محمد بن سيف العتيبي 16 September 1936 – 9 January 1980) was a Saudi militant and soldier who in 1979 led the Grand Mosque seizure of the Great Mosque of Mecca, Saudi Arabia's holiest mosque, to protest against the Saudi monarchy.
How do people live like thisHow do so many proles in places like pic rel(read the filename) spend everyday walking down the same streets with the same sets of advertisements posted everyday with buissnesses and factories running rampant polluting the atmosphere all while consumerism and government corruption rain supreme all for the purpose of manipulating the civilians in these cities into living a life of never ending hedonistic consumption coupled with actual wage slavery. If I had to live in New York city for even a week I'd likely kill myself…
Capitalist Atrophy of NationalismJust what exactly is the true relation of nationalism and capitalism? Nationalism taken to extreme is fascism, although some comrades believe that fascism is capitalism in decay. Yet capitalism tends toward transnationalism, globalism, reduced trade boundaries, so that it can optimize its logistics, evade taxes, and bypass laws for the maximization of profits.
/ASG/ - Anti-Sectarianism generalThere seems to have be a lot sectarianism on this board as of late. I think we should lighten things up by promoting cooperation and harmony between different leftist sects. Let's start saying good things about other sects.
The Left IS Western Civilization!The Left IS Western Civilization - Or rather Platonic Civilization.
Really makes you thinkWhat is the materialist explanation for communist and radical revolutions almost exclusively happening in extremely conservative/reactionary societies? I mran come on 1917 Russia, the bastion of traditionalism and Christianity in Europe suddenly murders the Emperor, burns churches, legalizes abortion, abolishes torture and corporal punishment, grants women full rights and absolutely anhilliates the landowning class which was a staple of Russian society for centuries. And a majority of the population embraces it enthusiastically with very sparse and unpopular rebellions. Hell, anarchism became popular.
I have finally embraced socialism;what now?AS A transhumanist and anti-natalist ,i have embraced the Left; my eternal Being ad possible Movarec jumping/quantum reincarnation makes it in my best interest to improve general conditions for all humans(as i might already be/will be,all or any human):I still think abortio is murder but 5 minutes of lethal pain may save 80 years of horribly mental pain and a 1/3 chance of being born several disabled.
Black Hammer and Petty-Bourgeois RadicalismWhy does this sort of shit keep happening to the PSL?
==Patriotism is praxis!==much of this is a copy paste from the burger thread decided to have a serious thread on the concept of patriotism and socialism
This image told me not just so much about anarchists but socialists in generalNone of these spanish socialists are prepared for long term combat
Is luddism good?Is being a technophobe or luddite really just a distorted form of class consciousness? Technological advances usually have their benefits accrue to capitalists first. So workers blame the machine and not the class/force behind it, because the machine is the face or presentation of the inhuman nature of capitalism itself
Is quantum mechanics the biggest killer of metaphysics?I wanna see if any big brain anons can wrap their heads around why quantum mechanics killed all form of metaphysical thinking. All physical phenomena are quantum manifestation of a field with many potential energies.
COCKSHOTT VS HEGEL - ROUND 3 - FIGHT!!!Quite a few comments on this video claim that Cockshott is misrepresenting Hegel's work.
If the Anarcho-Communists won in Spain would this have literally any affect on history?Considering Spain was already more or less totally irrelevant on the World stage by 1936 and considering Franco sat out WWII anyway even after Hitler was like “Hey buddy, you’re a fascist, I’m a fascist, let’s team up” could it be said that the outcome of the Spanish Civil War had no real historical significance for anyone other than the people of Spain? Like, Spain has continued to be relatively insignificant anyway, I know anarchists seethe over the war, but literally what would their victory have changed?
It seems as if Bezo's popularity is skyrocketing.Ever since Musk and Bezos has been making news about their space program it seems as if people across the world have been revitalized in their love of billionaires. I guess all porky needed to do to kick the sails of the left is to fund space theatrics…Just look at this https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/billionaire-space-race has eradicated all class consciousness in the youth.
Marxism and envyHow do you refute the claim made by oh-so-virtuous reactionaries that Marxism is a "philosophy of envy" in the sense that communists (or workers in general) only seek to control the means of production and seize the wealth of the rich because they are envious of the rich?
On the Japanese and their crimesThe Japanese army killed around 200,000 people in the course of 1 month during the Nanjing Massacre (this is a commonly accepted figure among historians. The massacre occured at the beginning of 1938. If they had kept this up in the territory they occupied until, let's say, 1944, then they would have killed around 12 million people disregarding deaths of combatants. The nature of the crimes committed during the Rape of Nanjing were also much more severe than any of the other war crimes and atrocities committed during WWII (yes, even the holocaust). So why were the nips never held accountable for their war crimes? Was it solely because the US needed a bulwark against Communism in East Asia? Part of me feels sympathy for and indigence over those killed during the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but another part of me thinks that the US and the USSR should have reduced the islands of Japan to nuclear craters, or at least every single Japanese soldier should have been killed.So why were the nips never held accountable for their war crimes?
THE ELITEThe left, from left-liberals and social demcrats to the hard left (Marxists, Anarchists) have a pretty similar conception of "the elites" as the bourgeoisie, a marxist or at least vulgar-marxist definition: wealthy people and corporations that have disproportionate power over society.
On Coexistance and Soviet Policy in the time of the Second Inter-Imperialist warThe defeat of the Soviet's at the end of the Cold war requires we communists to analyze and deduce what alternative actions may have been taken to achieve a better course of history, one where there was no collapse of the socialist camp, and instead a complete victory over the capitalists. I want to focus this thread specifically on the Course of events of the Second world war, and the geopolitical and strategic decisions made by the USSR. Bonus points for avoiding muh great man theory.
My disliking for china isnt fueled by my disliking for socialismThe birth of liberal capitalism was driven out of a need to separate away from feudalistic society where empires were in perpetual war with each other and society was split between the masses that were exploited to create material wealth to fund elites and foreign wars, people saw what kind of a world that was and wanted out of it, a world where they could live their lives the way they wanted to and build whatever they desired and hence capitalism and libertarian ethics would be a ground base for the united states, it wasnt perfect but the country became more and more progressive and more and more liberal as time passed compared to the rest of the planet and likewise that progressiveness eventually spread to the rest of earth. What china is doing today is repeating the same mistakes of the USSR, empire building. Peoples rights are getting trampled on, most chinese citizens live on 10-15 dollars a DAY that's less than several african countries and china has made repeated offenses that have been disastrous worldwide including their worst offence of manufacturing a covid virus that would go on to lead to millions of deaths worldwide, trillions of damage to financial and material assets, billions of lives ruined driven by unemployment and the mass closure of large and small buissnesses, I wish it was the only offence but when they invaded vietnam, threatened to nuke china and then went on to commit Tiananmen square an event that only the most brainwashed pro china shills can honestly defend it's hard to state that they're better than their western counterparts. China currently is expanding its nuclear base due to security problems it faced after mass lockdowns leading to an immediate shitstorm of hate directed at it and the CCP would go on to use nationalism and defence spending as a way to counter that criticism, likewise this increasing arms race is pushing the planet closer and closer to another cold war where socialist expansion in the form of propaganda and direct invasion is resurging again, we only barely escaped nuclear fallout due to repeated luck on both sides to prevent nukes from being launched from false alarms. I DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT WHOSE IN THE RIGHT OR IF SOCIALISM OR CAPITALISM ARE BEGGER, IN A SITUATION LIKE THIS, NO ONE and I repeat NO ONE should have to live in a situation like this and the blatant displays of fanaticism towards pushing socialism and pro chinese expansionism is so strong and invasive that it's becoming a global security threat once again. China needs to seriously check how its perceived and should vow to improve because if it keeps going the way it's going the planet may either legitimately end or get severely damaged
Steinbeck: Based or cringe?>During his writing career, he authored 33 books, with one book coauthored alongside Edward Ricketts, including 16 novels, six non-fiction books, and two collections of short stories. He is widely known for the comic novels Tortilla Flat (1935) and Cannery Row (1945), the multi-generation epic East of Eden (1952), and the novellas The Red Pony (1933) and Of Mice and Men (1937). The Pulitzer Prize-winning The Grapes of Wrath (1939) is considered Steinbeck's masterpiece and part of the American literary canon. In the first 75 years after it was published, it sold 14 million copies.
Leftist Tea-PartySo anons I was thinkin that what the left needs is a movement similar to the right's tea party movement.
Is Wikipedia a good resource for leftist theories?I'm a newcomer when it comes to leftism, and I love Wikipedia at the same time. I can't bear reading articles on Marx like those on Marxists.org, nor books on Marxism. What I liked are news articles and Wikipedia, a remnant of the now-defunct independent self.
News 7/28/21Mexico president: Sending fuel cargo for Cuba is their sovereign decision
Why is prison labor okay under communism but not under capitalism?I often see communists decry prison labor in capitalist countries, particularly in the United States, describing it as a form of modern slavery. However, I often see these same communists turn around and praise prison labor in communist countries, most notably the Soviet Union. Why is this case? Why can't I oppose prison labor under all economic systems?
Zionism and warsKeep hearing about how Zionism is the cause of the war in syria and how Iran, Syria and other anti imperialist struggles around the arab world are actually struggles against Zionism. Why? What's Israel got to do with those? What's their interest in the arab world and middle east except Palestine?
Cities are disgusting and smell badI dont know why I had to learn this after so many years of my life but literally all cities smell like rancid dog shit that had vomit poured onto it and then got fed to a dog that shat out that shit. The smell of 100s of thousands to millions of urbanites that are all cooming,shitting(and sometimes in public), pissing,fucking each other, murdering each other and doing drugs all adds up to an aroma one could not possibly fathom the fumes of without having to the inhale the borderline mustard gas like substance that's found in the air supply of most cities, that doesnt even get in to the rampant STDs contracted in them that's caused by the amount of industrial pollution coupled with the rampant prostitution and public forms of sex like night clubs meaning if you decide to spend your time contracting herpes while spending your time in the abhorrent mistakes that was industrial cities and dont come out smelling like you got vomited on by school kids your fucking lucky. Now I wish it ended at just awful smells and STDs but then theres pollution, SO MUCH TRASH AND POLLUTION it's so bad that rivers and lakes within china and india have algae growing in them and dead bodies being found floating on those once clean sectors of mother earth, theres so much pollution and waste found in most cities to the point where there are reports of the bubonic plague being spread in cities like chicago and california, tuberculosis in fucking paris, malaria in sao paulo and more in supposedly developed sectors of earth, cities are so FUCKING disgusting and desperately need to be purged and reformed into something that doesnt resemble a jungle filled with animals competing over who can destroy the environment the fastest holy fuck, if you move into a city please wear a mask or get a towel and wrap it around your mouth and nose
I dont know why i had to see this today to realize this but europe is actually quite patheticTurks have taken in millions of syrian and afghan refugees while Kenya has also taken in millions of somali and afghan refugees, both countries are deploying troops in ongoing warfare and helping build safer communities while simultaneously being underdeveloped countries, europe is a continent with access to some of the best living standards and technology on the planet yet not only do they get easily taken over by even letting a few migrants in but also need to spend millions on border security, Europe's economy is primarily built off the exploitation of others predominantly of the 3rd world through outsourcing, destabilization of developing independent economies like libya, and having poorly paid migrants perform most of the major and minor tasks in mainland europe. If they get taken over by russia china or africa all I can say is holy fuck they deserve it
Revisionism is BASED as fuckCan somebody explain me what the problem is with "revisionism"?
Statism and MarxIs Marx a statist? I watched this video earlier that said he wasn't. He said that since the Soviet Union didn't abolish wage labor. It was merely social democracy and not real communism/socialism. The Soviet Union turned bad with Stalin and deviated from Marx's true vision of a society with no government. Is this view actually correct?
What do you guys think about kpop?Opinions and discussions welcome!
Elon Musk must dieSeriously. Why the fuck is no one talking about this fucking retard and his fucking dumb ass plan to launch 40,000 satellites into low earth orbit? This is not only problematic, but, it is fucking LUNACY.
Pseudo-parties — An electoral strategy for American socialists(TL;DR at bottom of post)
"Leftism" is outdatedYeah, the title is an attention bait, but try to say where I'm wrong
Iranian RevolutionRed pill me on the iranian revolution.
American Health CareYou guys love socialism and wealth redistribution.
bottom textI've never read any philosophy, and don't believe in Astrology, but I find the concept of Archetypes fascinating. Sometimes I look at someone and see pieces of a whole in them, I don't exactly know what to call it, qualities maybe?
The earth should have at least 100 billion people on itNot only is there enough land and resources available but the type of civilization that could be achieved if this were accomplished would be tremendously beneficial to humanity as when population sizes go up so does the working population which breeds the potential for inventors being born and hence rapid technological and societal growth is achieved, humanity is better off with more of itself and it should desire to conquer the planet and all things on it and should desire to expand into space to ensure the human species may survive for the long haul
IDPOL: A Meta Discussionaka /leftypol/: An Exploration into the Causes and Effects of Identity Politics.
Misogynist terrorism -- the dataHad some free time so I collected all the information about past anti-women terrorists based on the list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist_terrorism#List_of_incidents and compiled the data.
The post dirt bag leftI just found this article. Let's discuss it
News 7/27/21North and South Korea agree to restore communication channels, improve ties
How to dubunk the myth of deserved wealth?I think that one of the most important components of the capitalist propaganda machine is something that I call "deserved wealth" (there's probably a marxist term that is more accurate but I'm not aware of it). Basically the fact that most people think that guys like Jeff Bezos and Bill Gates fully deserve the incommensurable wealth they have, because they worked harder, because they're intelligent, because they did "x" thing that most people couldn't do etc.
why are there so many useless bullshit jobs in the west?Receptionists, inventory managers, government bureaucrats. Mindless droolers doing useless repetitive tasks that can be easily automated with 80s level software. Why do they exist? To babysit the general public until all important jobs are shipped to SEA? Even some STEM jobs are absolutely useless, any programmer adding useless bloat for company websites via a CMS is in this same category for me. I thought capitalism was about effeciency and rational use of ressources?
Anti-Work | How To Not Work?Hey lads,
Islam in Soviet UnionHow did the Soviets deal with Islam? Especially in regards to women rights?
Functional FascismI've been thinking about how critiques of fascism and imperialism are re-appropriated by the right, often unconsciously. Example, colonel Jessup in a few good men, he's obviously the bad guy but go to the comments section of a video on the scene of "you can't handle the truth" and you will see a bunch of people defending him. It's like in jarhead when they are watching the helicopter scene from apocalypse now, originally conceived as an anti war film, they are comparing the americans in vietnam to the nazis which is why they play wagner, but now its being celebrated uncritically as "america, fuck yeah" by a bunch of marines. Another example is starship troopers memes used by /pol/, clearly the movie is lampooning fascism and us imperialism.
All Internationalists should learn EsperantoHow are the workers of the world supposed to unite if they cannot even agree to a single unified language?
Nationalism/leftypol/ told me i should always support Nationalism outside the imperial core, but isn't it a simplistic view?
Why do economic crashes happen?There has been a cycle of economic collapses every decade or two, is it for the last hundred years maybe hundreds of years, all I remember is the recent part of the story these collapses, like the dot com bubble in the 2000 or the stock market crash pf 2008 because of real estate loans or some shit, these regular collapses have been happening because of one thing, but, we are overdue for another and the thing is, this time its not going to be because of one thing but at least a few the consumer credit card debt + other shit i cant remember atm. Can any one give their insight?
/meg/ - Middle East GeneralThis thread is for discussion about the Middle East
So what do you guys think about... centrists?Should they be deprogrammed (especially when they've been extensively brainwashed or blinded by mainstream neoliberal progressive ideology)? Should they be left alone, even though it means that you're risking their lives (they're absolutely going to consume the blue pill should they be extensively indoctrinated)?
Leave Caleb maupin a 5 star review if you have amazonShow support to our borger king bro trashing breadtube stupidity.
Why are more and more people of the younger generation begin to identify themselves as liberal?I just wanna know.
The American RevolutionIn this thread we will strive for an objective, materialist analysis of the American Revolutionary War. Was it progressive? Was it a true liberal revolution against the feudal and monarchist leadership of the British empire? Was it a reactionary attempt by the ruling slave class to protect the institution of slavery and the expansion of colonialism, as many others claim?
"Under gommunisum, you'd had to work like a slave!"I've come across this sham argument in an increasing amount recently, also by Eastern Euro anti-communists.
PollutionIf the world is suffering from problems with environmental degradation caused by industrial waste why not just build and dig bigger landfills that can contain more trash and build more sanitational based equipment? Why not just replant old trees? why not just cut down on production if keeping factories operating is causing industrial waste? It wouldn't be hard to keep streets clean, it wouldn't be hard to keep the air breathable, it wouldn't be hard to simply not turn the planet into a wasteland simple just by giving a shit about the natural environment
Real question please helpI'm trying to de-nazify myself, trying to shift into anarcho-egoism, I think I get the basic concepts of leftism and all, but one thing keeping me away from full-blown leftism is, if race doesn't really matter and all that is just the capitalist ploy to keep us divided, why are there no thinkers, I mean like Marx and Stirner and stuff, that would be black or asian? I mean there were people like Mao or Mugabe but they still borrow all the basic ideas from Marx, point is, why is it only white man that thinks this way, or, dare I say, why is it only white man that thinks? Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm really trying here, but just… why does it seem like only muh yuropeons "think?"
Tunisia’s president dismisses prime minister after protests>Tunisia’s president has announced the suspension of the Tunisian parliament and the dismissal of Prime Minister Hicham Mechichi after violent protests broke out in several Tunisian cities over the government’s handling of the COVID pandemic and the economy.
Relativistic MarxismThis thread is to discuss potential problems with Marxism in a relativistic society and how theory can solve them.
Soviet Wars 1917-1923(31)A million sides, constant changes of allies, a bunch of events - sort of the First World War in the South, in the Crimea and in the Urals, the latest fleet operations against the Germans and the Entente in the Baltic, literally Syria in the Ukraine, the Red Army attacking British tanks with bayonets near Arkhangelsk, the Wild West with Basmachi in Central Asia, Latin American partisanship in Siberia, White Genghis Khan is plotting something, White Czechs are fleeing from the Red Czechs with tsarist gold, finally the fight against anti-Soviet uprisings and simply hellish gang violence.
Debunking malthusian beliefs>overpopulation
Whats wrong with /pol/?I wanna understand how that site descended from an obscure mostly liberal imagebboard that could discuss politics with a varied amount of humor to a cesspit of botting, bait and shill posting that's actually more popular than most communities on reddit with a userbase that's so politically 1 sided that it feels like only 1 or a few like minded people browse and run the entire site. Around 70% the catalog of /pol/ in it's current state is anti vax propaganda and the rest is almost exclusive to id/pol/ faggotry, how did that place reach this point and is it possible for them to recover?
Wait a secondGermany got a leader that believed the proper response to a war that killed 15 million people and led to multiple economic crashes all over Europe was the senseless mass slaughter of other europeans and the entire planet and he would go on to trigger a war that would come to kill 60 million people leading to even more economic disasters, multiple human rights violations and a flu outbreak, that same leader was a documented sex offender and now several decades after that horrific event in history broke out a bunch of virgins and druggies in their teens and 20s would go on to worship that bloodthirsty lunatic and commit acts of domestic terrorism often times again towards other europeans as a means of protesting their extremist views hoping to trigger another war that will leave millions dead and potentially 100s of millions of lives ruined….
Working hard is stupidGood working conditions and innovation have been proven to produce more material wealth at a faster rate than simply working longer hours, a society should strive to maintain a standard work week of no more than 40 hours and invest heavily in technology, henceforth an individual person should avoid working beyond 40 hours like the plague and seek promotions or education if working hours start climbing to a point where they work beyond 40 hours or need to take on multiple jobs to avoid work induced stress and fall into drug addiction. No self respecting man should have to enslave themselves to put food on the table every night nor should have to work their whole lives and neglect important things like family community and country
How is Socialism supposed to be fair?How is Socialism supposed to be fair? How could it possibly distribute limited goods and services rationally and fairly? Take Caviar for instance, it's a food product with a limited amount of production. Under Socialism, who gets Caviar? You can't possibly distribute and ration a "fair" amount to everybody in a country can you? Who gets Caviar first? Who doesn't get Caviar? Is this fair?
Late to the partyWhat the fuck happened to this place?
News 7/26/21Leading Russian Communist politician Grudinin barred from running in election after ex-wife reveals hidden foreign investments
The problem of the leftThere is almost 0 organizational discussion. There is no tactical discussion: what do now?
/CYBERSOC/Previous thread ( >>210868 ) hit bump limit.
Socialism's Greatest WarriorsWe should have a thread talking about the greatest soldiers, generals, and military leaders of the worker's cause. There are plenty to talk about Zhukov, Tukhachevsky, Che, but my personal contribution would be August Willich "The Reddest of the Red", a revolutionary leader from the 1848 revolutions, specifically the Baden-Palatinate uprising where Engels served as his aides-de-camp. He was also the leader of the "left faction" of the communist internationale, for many years he was a fierce enemy of Marx (dueling one of his disciples and nearly killing him) but his immigration to the US allowed their relationship to improve. During the Civil War he recruited many German radicals for the union army and became a colonel of the First German and later was made a Brigadier General. He was even wounded during the Atlanta Campaign at the battle of Resaca. To Willich, the civil war had become a revolutionary war and that defeated the CSA and ending slavery would create a massive social revolution in the US that could lead to socialism. IMO had the radical republicans capitalized on their victory and had Johnson not become president then Willich may very well had been correct in seeing the potential of Socialism in the USA. What revolutionary warrior do you most respect?
Why did Kek abandon 4chan?I was thinking about the power of kek, and the strength of the right within their peak of 2015-2016. 4chan was the nexus of sexual energy that awakened the libidinal energy of not only the young but also old conservatives. Trump was a magnet of sexual power, his swagger and sexuality the ultimate boner pill of the right. However it seems as if kek abandoned 4chan, not even /v/ memes seem to really hit the mainstream for more than a few minutes, the power of wojaks having left the hands of the site already and pepe is more of a twitch icon than a 4chan one now. I think that the reason why kek abandoned 4chan is that the god of chaos saught the general sameness of the two liberal positions, and fundamentally 4channers are liberals who merely don the masks of nazis in a sort of perverse exhibitionism of ideology. Conservatives and liberals are barely all that much different in the grand scheme of things, and kek saught the true third position in the west, which is communism or rather issues that sympathized with the left. The left's memes breathes and dies instead of festering like mindtraps of constant reinforcement such as the wojak and pepes that we see now, refinements of old concepts. Th left's memes always had the new car smell in the air, which is why even losers like Shoe was attracted to the left or at least sanderism. The left's memes are silent in the wind, but passes through the cracks a ghost that haunts the minds of the many while the right's memes are plentiful but shows cracks. The shroomjak I believe to be the last of the refinements, a being of nature in itself and thus it's conservative nature was subverted to the original power of the wojak as wojak is the purest expression of humanity and shroomjak is the purest expression of nature. The deriviatives of these mems are hollow and posses nothing more than the passing stigmata of discord memetics, a sort of come and go nature to it.
Thank you KenyaThank you kenyans for spending decades fighting off islamic terrorism in somalia, sending foreign aid and importing refugees from somalia and afghanistan for years so that Somalia's cities are now coherently stable enough for foreign investment to become profitable all while simultaneously being a developing country that has only recently had a sewage system. I dont know how you guys did it but thanks
Have liberals ever argued FOR surplus value?I'm a commie becasue I'm not getting my surplus value. If a liberal could explain: 1. that surplus value extraction is real and 2. explain why porkies NEED to take my surplus value, I wouldn't be a commie.
Deprogram myself. I can't stand this.I'm seriously (not joking) a newbie leftist. I was once an independent, but skewed left and finally could able to call this place home.
/mlm/ - Maoism GeneralWhile there are surely some people interested in Maoism on /leftypol/, the tendency has no noticeable presence here. From my observation Maoism has been gaining traction in socialist communities online recently. Though the ideology's influence is still relatively small, I'm optimistic that we're witnessing the earlier stages of Maoists winning leadership in the movements of the working class which will result in the reconstitution of Communist Parties guided by MLM. I started this thread to spur investigation and discussion amongst potential comrades.
Social EngineeringI am currently reading Capitalist Realism and the part I'm at is discussing the capitalist system's efficacy in shaping perception to render the new generations impotent and misguided. That's at least how I understood it. It got me wondering, all the research on social engineering that has been done in the mid 20th century by intelligence agencies like the CIA and private organizations like the Rockefeller foundation, is there any evidence that it is being used today? I'm not doubting that it has been used, but do we have explicit evidence?
Mates, I think I might actually be a filty trot.What it says in the title, mates. I've been reading Mandel and holy fuck is he based, especially in contrast to Mattick's idealism in "Anti-Bolshevik Communism". People say there is no difference between trots and tanks in their approach to revolution and building of socialism, but if Mandel is an example, then there is a theoretical chasm. One recognizes bureaucracy as a separate social strata with its separate interests - the other is not. One champions spontaneity and self-agency of the masses - the other is not. One recognized that without proletarian democracy, direct democracy of the soviets, there cannot be socialism - the other is not. One recognized that economic revolution requires a political revolution - the other is not. One wrote a book about the marxist theory of bureaucracy - the other is not.
I actually give 0 shits about what happens to south africaAnglos literally saw the horrendous state the united states was in during the colonial era(believe it or not crime, ethnic infighting, corruption and the inefficiencies of capitalism were actually alot fucking worse back then compared to today) and instead of having the sense to at least look at that country and go "holy fuck let's not do that again" they went into south africa went to war with the people already living there and repeated all the same mistakes, 95 years of an apartheid state yet not a single year under it did homicide rates or wealth inequality fell, worries over civil war and genocide of white south africans was a prevalent worry throughout apartheid. That's not normal you shouldn't create a system so abhorrently awful that you have to be worried about getting yourself killed under it, and what's worse are the asian migrants that immigrated their with even less self awareness than the Anglo population and not only showed open support for apartheid but also free markets that resulted in situations of mass unemployment, constant civil unrest, extreme amount of ethnic infighting and more. 1 could say it's the best african country but I'm not sure if that's true when it has a shitstorm of other problems, especially when one realizes rohedsia needed to be annexed and have the white population deported simply to not turn out the same way as south africa
Renewable EnergyLiberals and Socdems swear on it so much, that I really start wondering if it actually is capable of replacing coal as the main source of energy. I am scepitcal ofcourse. Imo we fucked it up a long time ago when we ruled out nuclear fission as a temporary alternative, but those "progressives" always screech at me for suporting a "terrible" alternative such as nuclear and they have science and facts on their side to demonstrate how renewables are the future.
1 thing ive noticed about chinese infrastructureHow do I phrase this
Dorathy Day: based or cringe?>Dorothy Day (November 8, 1897 – November 29, 1980) was an American journalist, social activist and anarchist who, after a bohemian youth, became a Catholic without abandoning her social and anarchist activism. She was perhaps the best-known political radical among American Catholics.
Great men theoryDo marxist really belive that if hitler wasn't born, 6 millions would still be dead at the end of world war 2?
Anti-Maoist Hate ThreadWhen will they realize being lead by petty bourgeois academes is a bad idea?
Philosophy of ScienceDo marxists have something to say against this field that is so heavily dominated by the analytic school and their methodology? Is the scientifc methody as it is right now, faulty or not? Is the verifaction principle truly the non-plus ultra of scientific praxis? Then how is physics called a science when it is based on abstract models, while psychology is constantly criticized for not being up to par with scientific standards?
Russia is coming to an end - is there any salvation?Russia today is much weaker than the Romanov Empire, which existed from 1613 to 1917, or the Soviet Union. Russia's biggest problem is Internal: this huge Eurasian country could not create a national identity that would cover its entire population. Millions of Russian citizens are doubtfully loyal to their state, and as soon as Moscow loosens its tight control over local elections, which is likely to happen only when Putin is no longer president, these groups will seek independence. Separatism is a time bomb, which Putin is so afraid of, will explode in 10, 20 years.
Communism in parties without the nameIt seems like Marxism-Leninism is being popular and successful in many parties that are not explicitly communist. Yes, the Communist Party of China exists, but look at other countries. MAS in Bolivia, Free Peru in Peru, the Socialist Party of South Africa….All of these seem to be Marxist-Leninists that name their parties either socialist or some other populist concoction of a name. Is there an advantage to doing this? Should this be the path for the US? I remember a debate between two MLs recently and it was over whether to forge ahead in the CPUSA or to run in the People's Party. It seems like the winning model might vary between countries, but
Gay Pride, 07.24.2021, Hungary -- a commie analysisThis was the first gay pride parade I have witnessed in person (I didn't participate, but I've watched them march for 40 minutes before me), and I would like to share with you my overall analysis.
/IHG/ - Iran Happening GeneralI have for a while known that it was only a matter of time before this happens.
Thoughts on George Bataille?Just read the first volume of his most well known work (The Accursed Share) and honestly i can sorta see why people view him as similar to land in some of his [Economic] views.
Accelerationist GeneralI've never actually heard a solid, real argument against accelerationism. People just parrot that it's stupid and ultra and "doesn't work", but nobody provides any evidence whatsoever for their claims.
bottom textthis might belong in /b/ but, I was thinking about Ferdinand Sassure and linguistics and how, no words or concepts are atomic. Every concept is an interface in the sense that it's meaning is based on relations to other objects/concepts. Even things like awareness (implies being aware of something).
After wokenessToday I want to attack the culture war question from a different angle. When do you guys foresee the end of it all? And How?
Week In Review – July 25, 2021!Several sources reported, this week, that ELEVEN soldiers and LEOs have died as they represented the United States of America.
Why Are They Doing This?I need a good answer for that, it doesn't make any sense
PlatypusI was gonna write a long pseud screed on identity, but actually, I just want to know: has anyone here ever heard of the "Platypus Affiliated Society" what do you think of it? I don't really want to explain it, because I can't, and also because I want the opinions of people that have actually engaged with it, and not a bunch of people who decided its bad because of some sectarian thing they read on Wikipedia. If you've never heard of it, please politely just ignore this.
US-China WarWould the US mount a successful ground invasion of mainland china? What about China successfully taking Taiwan and holding the worlds semiconductor capacity? What about naval battles in the pacific? Surprise nuclear attack on Hawaii?
Glow in the darks>Where else could a red-blooded American boy lie, kill, cheat, steal, rape and pillage with the sanction and blessing of the All-Highest?” - George White, CIA agent
Why can you guys call my questions asking for leftist news sources false flags?I mean like seriously. Why can't you just answer the question seriously? If you see someone unconscious on the road, you've probably assisted them by calling 911 right? Then why won't you do the same to a genuine victim of mainstream media brainwashing and disinformation?
News 7/23/21‘Peak hypocrisy’: Tokyo Olympics bashed for ‘worst part of the pandemic’ reminder after mega-rich celebrities sing Imagine (VIDEO)
LEBANESE COLLAPSE/CIVIL WAR THREADIn the last few weeks:
15 socialist countries that have succededWhenever someone tells you "hurr durr socialism failed" "uhh socialism sucks!!!" Send them this article and they'll immediately shut up.
We’re fuckedElysium is looking less like fiction everyday. Private corporations are now conquering space and they will leave the poors behind. They’re already perfecting rockets and most likely will build private space stations that are too expensive for normal workers. If we don’t have a revolution soon the billionaires and millionaires and shareholders will leave us here to rot.
Criticism of the left (How it's rejection of memetic power leads to missed oppurtunities.)You reject the power of memes, and this has caused us dearly because of it, the power of memes is a force of Dionysian energy and sexual power that you cannot possibly comprehend, nobody does. That is why even on here we have a lot of right-wingers who are willing to fight us, while we turn our backs away from the world. We are simply too unable to move passed the desire to preserve our will and egos, we constrain it away from the world, hiding it like an egg with the fatasses we choose to sit ourselves on. The generations before us will be swayed to the right because we are not orgasmic enough in our memetic power, as we have denied our sex organs, not even having the will to castrate it, but rather we have lost our ability to perceive sex as a whole. The right however is filled with libidinal energy, an embrace of joyful destruction under the masks of paladins. We are the wizards who sit atop the mountains look down at the crusaders before us, but the crusaders are at our gates, our bablyon having long been destroyed by porky, the power of these paladins still felt in the memescape today.
Over-politicizationWhat explains the tendency for everything to become politicized these days? What I mean is the warping of issues which everyone has a stake in, such as climate change or vaccines becoming a point of conflict and tension between right and left. The right is typically the source of the headache in this respect, seemingly disagreeing with these things for no other reason than to be stubborn and recalcitrant, and certainly never having educated, informed and valid arguments for their disbelief. What explains the misinformation campaigns ? These issues are not like taxes or abortion or something else, where there are legitimate self-interested or ethical reasons to oppose it.
Why did Kek abandon the right? Meme AnalsysisThe sexual orgonic energies from 4chan have possessed a powerful daemon in the collective unconscious rivers of the Nile, the bit streams of mindsam and fucksam that pools together into bogs of memetics. The beast that we all the internet lumbers inside of the conscousness of it's users and there are many prophets and archetypes that reside in the stream that bestows wisdom and intellect to those who are bewitched by their calling call. Trump the hero archetype and ugly bastard personified is the ego id of America that is true, his animal magneticism hypnotizing those who watched over him. 4chan, the collective id instead of the ego id is the power that drove the masses towards his chubby arms. Kek desired to see the chaos of America become enraptured and yet it seems as if his power left Trump for a while, whether or not the clerics of this god of kek failed him or not is uncertain but I believe the sexual energy, the cumstain of the wired lost it's luster like pearls that no longer shine in the dark nights of our souls. The memes of the chans no longer possess the vitality that it once did, and it's reasons allude me but however I believe that one instance is that the land of chaos was overhauled by a lord known as rape ape and his goon squads, the moderation team castrating anon and leaving him in need of authority figures leaves him without sexual energy and while he pretends to have a penis, he truly does not anymore. Where have all the draw fags gone? Where is the Original Content? It is all in the dismembered member.
Are farmers a part of the proletariat?Like I don't mean agribusiness owners, obviously they extract wealth through merely owning land and employing farm workers among other hired hands. And I'm not talking about peasantry in unindustrialized or undeveloped countries that live through subsistence.
McAffe's Dead man trigger countdownSo, supposedly McAffe had TBs of incriminating evidence of "the elites". And this is supposedly it, the website has a countdown which ends at the start of the 22nd (which also is remarkable cause that's the date in which the Cuba Bay of Pigs 2 electric boogaloo, now from Miami was gonna happen, and he was supportive of Cuba as well).
Nazbol PartyWhile I was browsing on /leftypol/
I can't stand MSM. Literally.Help me find quality leftist news websites! I ain't gonna read MSM no more, and I don't want to in the future. I'm tired of the neoliberal propaganda they spew to me, and by reading those leftist news sources I could deprogram myself.
Mexico is first world and a south american superpower>mexico city is first world
Midwit meme is dumb (redux)Consider this post on "midwits":
I have difficulty picturing communism, help me outI'm not a total leftist noob. I like to think I understand some of the ABCs: Socialism follows the destruction of the previous state replaced with a new state wherein workers are the dominant political group and when production is under the control of workers (either through nationalization from a worker's government or the control of various unions, syndicates, or other worker organizations). Money is instead replaced with some kind of labor voucher typically based on labor hours that specifically has no investment value. Over time the socialist state develops production to a degree of abundance and efficiency that many if not all of the state mechanisms and plans become irrelevant and society transitions again into a stateless, classless, moneyless society where people work for as much as they need.
Jannitorial background vs. poster backgroungJust a single question, comrades:
Theres something beautiful about this imageIt shows not only a complete disconnection from ones sense of reality but also what happens when an individual is so politically extreme that they lose their own sense of whatever the hell they stand for along with an unwillingness to get educated on reality. Islam(especially sunni islam) is a religion that calls for arab supremacy while nazism calls for german supremacy both ideas are fundamentally anti european and end up leading towards the destruction of non Germanic and non arab europeans as a whole simply in the name of their imperialistic motives yet the figure shown in this pic a reactionary white male is so disconnected from this simple reality that he has taken on political views that he would've been killed under, and what's even sadder is historically nazis did become muslims, modern european reactionaries show open support if not fully commit to islam despite the destruction its caused on their own homes along with nazism not necessarily because nazism and radical islam benefit europeans but simply because these political views comfort those people. Fucking poetic
TRUMP STATEMENT 7/23/2021Statement by President Donald J. Trump, 45th President of the United States of America
Dead cities are the best ones prove me wrong>0 fucking mass protests riots or crime
Eugene Puryear -- an ML hero from the USAWithout trying to [blogpost] here, I just wanna say, that I first got introduced to PSL by reading Jodi Dean's books, and I wiki'd here up, and realized she's in a party called Party for Socialism and Liberation [PSL].
SkillsIt is important that citizens of any society develop self preservational and minor trade skills in order to not just build the revolution but to be able to maintain society and their local communities when crises hit. Feel free to share information on various skills you have in this infodump thread
Google results disappearing when it comes to communism's achievementsYeah, so I'm not trying to push any kind of conspiracy theory, but I've noticed the following. I've been google (mostly image-) searching the same words (e.g. "USSR real wages") which used to bring up real results in the first row for like 10 years.
Is right wing populism rationalOr is it still a 'voting against your own interests' thing?
Chile ElectionsChilebros what happened? /ourguy/ Jaudes lost the primaries for the presidential election. Is Apruebo Dignidad still based or are we fucked? What can we except from this other candidate? And how is the constitutional convention coming along? Let's just hope that nobody is preparing to launch a coup again…
Hegel justifies the downfall of the Soviet UnionThe real is rational and the rational is real. This is one of the basic pronciples of Hegel's philosophy. But this means, the downfall of the Soviet Union was a good thing, because the system was obviously not rational and therefore it had to vanish.
What the fuck is going on with Canada?Tweet: https://twitter.com/cbcnews/status/1418586728592445445
New Multitude- For Leftypol, by Leftypol!Just want to revive the New Multitude thread. New Multitude has left wing perspective from all around the world and seeks contributions from anons too. Some articles are already written by anons. Send your thoughts and drafts to [email protected]
Why do people still deny the holocaust?Nazis literally kept records of fucking everything that went on in those camps, it was already documented that nazis had deliberately made propaganda films of those camps portraying them as resorts for jews to hide what was actually going on in their, starvation and rampant illness was one of the leading causes of death next to gas chambers in those camps especially late in the war when the nazis were running low on funds. Yes 6 million did fucking die in their along with another 9 million non jews comprising of soviet and north western european prisoners and gypsies, you have to be a complete spergeloard schizo to miss this
Slander just makes us strongerI don't give a fuck about the actual truth or falsehood of Courtois' Black Book 100 million accusation. Morality is not my concern. My concern is soft power and as far as I'm concerned the 100 million figure makes us stronger. I embrace it ironically. The later 21st century will be brutal and gruesome and billions are going to die or will have to die. A 100 million is a drop in the bucket. Furthermore, if a state can kill so many millions or so and still flourish it speaks to the absolute power of the theory. And as for Blokhins' Katyn involvement it would just speak to the grit and determination he had in bringing peace to Eastern Europe by eradicating the Polish officer class. Hell, one of the main attractions of Marxism-Leninism for me is that slander. The population of the US is 331 million and each and every American effectively is equally guilty in American inaction or action alike in imperialism. I need a theory that can let me organise their physical destruction, each and every one of them. And if the slander is that ML has killed 100 million and I ironically believe in it, I can organise to kill 331 million Americans.
So whats the consensus on covid and vaccines?Me personally originally I thought it was a possible Chinese or american bio weapon then after a few months I noticed no real world evidence with my own eyes this shit was a threat till this day never met a single person with it or anyone who knows anyone with it and I ask all the time. Stopped caring about covid 6 months in and don't follow lockdown order or take any precautions also didn't take vaccine because of bad experiences with flu shots. What about you guys?
News 7/22/21Cyberpunk 20**? Researchers warn of ‘bleak’ future with companies owning private thoughts & world divided between cyborg and human
What is the origin of social classes?Socialists and communists claim to want to abolish class, but I must ask this question: how did class originate? It seems that it may have had something to do with the advent of agriculture, but I have also heard that some hunter-gather classes had distinct social classes. At any rate, knowing how social stratification arose in the first place seems important if you want to 1) figure out how or if a complex society could function without social classes and/or 2) figure out how to prevent social classes from arising again in the future.
Your Top 5 Influences II: Return of the SaucesSo /leftypol/, what are your personal Top 5 texts, lectures, videos, or books that really struck a chord with you or in some way influenced your thinking?
EugenicsWhy is eugenics bad? I have a relatively minor genetic disease I inherited from my father and it sucks. I saw my dad suffering it as i grew up, getting dizzy and having to lie down. I didn't have it at first but now that im older i ended up getting the same shit, i feel dizzy all the time and tired as fuck.
How to turn your friends communistAre you friends already communist? Do you refuse to talk to libs? How would you engage with old friends that have started down the alt-light path? What do you do with apolitical people who think its all bullshit or people who are really into being outraged about muh freedom?
John Bolton 2024!I can get behind this. I'm sick of trump!
Follow up to the recent muslim thread<AGAIN NO AND I MEAN NO ISLAMOPHOBIC REPLIES
stop using the midwit memeThe midwit meme is fucking retarded and so is anyone using it. It's literally just the /pol/ version of the PMC meme. The vast majority of white collar professionals are "midwits" with the exception of some top scientists, mathematicians, etc. who may be somewhat above that.
" Anti-Communist Proletariat">YES,I LOVE MY BOSS!!! FUCK OFF YOU DİRTY COMMIE, YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK; HARD-WORKİNG IS GOOD!!!! HAHAHA LOSERFAG, DEFENDİNG HİS RIGHTS AGAİNST ELİTES WHİLE WE CHADS SUCK THE DİCKS OF THEM!!! UNİONS ARE TERRORISTS, GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T HELP AND DEFEND ME NOOOOO, I WANT TO BE 3-HOLES FUCKED BY CAPITALISTS!!!!! PORKY RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS!!!!!! HE İS COMMIE, SO HE İS ENEMY OF US; LETS BEAT HİM TO DEATH!!!!!
About imperialismReading stuff:
CHINA IS COLLAPSING!!!Xi has failed his people and is letting his country drown under the sea.
NFL STAR stands against the vax!!Top NFL Wide Receiver Deandre Hopkins takes a stand against NFL vaccine policy.
Paranormal activitiesWhat non political conspiracies/paranormal stuff does leftypol believe in? Are any of you UFOfags? What exactly is it in human psychology that wants to believe in bigfoot, etc. and other such things where people are willing to believe in paranormal phenomenon? And if such a thing is built into human psychology can the vast majority of people ever escape an idealist mode of thought?
How do people view governments these days?Seriously does anyone at this point trust or believe the government should influence their lives at this point
Why are Atheists and secularists such pussies?
Psychedelics GeneralGQ:Are there political or social ills that that you think might benefit from the sort of entropy that psychedelics can introduce into our consciousness?
Climate Change General - /climate/The planet continues to warm and create devastating shifts to the ecosystems across the world.
Luxembourg’s Prime Minister dying>Prime Minister Xavier Bettel of Luxembourg, who is suffering from Covid-19 symptoms, was in “serious but stable” condition on Tuesday at a hospital, his press secretary in Luxembourg said. The prime minister had low oxygen levels in his blood, an acute concern for people with Covid-19.
Good books not written by communistsCurrently reading four books from DK (the encyclopedia publishers), those being Definitive Visual History to the American Civil War, the First World War, the Second World War, and the Vietnam War
Please i just want a non islamophobic answer that makes senseWhy the flying fuck are there so many muslims on this planet that view terrorism as okay? I can make a fucking list of terrorists groups from islam alone and I still think I wouldn't have hit them all
Would There Be A War ?So, i'm hearing that some anons claiming that before RoP hitting zero, they will do a war and save capital
How do Westoids cope with living in such a sociopathic society?Was reading retards in /r/Atheism debating “communism”, one of the turds was discussing “freedom” and when the socialist pointed out that freedom from (some) arbitrary laws while still being allowed to starve on the street is fucking meaningless, to which the based and rational redditor argued that actually freedom doesn’t mean a right to a decent quality of life but just the garbage included in America’s warped concept of freedom and literally nothing else
Govt-led censorship: Is the U.S. lurching toward fascism?Given recent announcements that the Biden administration will take active efforts to censor info on social media, and the not-so-recent precedents set by social media bannings over the last half decade, is it alarmist or reasonable to say that the US ruling class is beginning to resort to authoritarian methods?
Hijab banSo the ECJ has just gone full mask off, it is now legal to fire workers for wearing a hijab. I wonder how this is going to end. Like surely this must be against at-least one EU country's constitution?
Haitian President Jovenel Moïse assassinatedHe was a corrupt, right-wing leader so RIP to this guy but what the fuck is happening in Haiti.
Why should Arabs or any colored folk support marxism?As an Iraqi I wonder why tf should Arabs, Blacks and other colored folk support marxism over our own anti-imperialist national liberation struggles? Arabs and Blacks are two of the most horribly oppressed and discriminated peoples on Earth why should we seek internationalism and solidarity from first world white people (and most other nations) when we're not even seen as humans? I'm born from a refugee family in Europe and I plan on gathering enough financial resources once I finish college and I'm moving to Iraq or any other Arab nation and I'm gonna dedicate my life for my people and their struggle, I'm gonna spread the message of Ba'ath and plan on doing a renaissance of the philosophy, I want the Arab nation to isolate itself from a world that hate us and want us dead, from Morocco to Awhaz I want a united Arab nation who take the same approach as the DPRK towards the world, and I'm ready to die for this dream.
THE ACTUAL MARXIST PILLMARX, ENGELS, LENIN, STALIN SPENT THEIR ENTIRE LIVES SHITTING ON THE "RADLIBS" OF THEIR TIMES. FOR MARX & ENGELS IT WAS THE "FABIANS" (LITERAL CLASS COLLABORATIONISTS), BECAUSE THEY PUSHED A REFORMIST LINE, AND OF COURSE DEBUNKING SHIT FROM BAKUNIN & CO., BECAUSE THEY WERE FUCKING ULTRA CUNTS. THEY MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAT THAT WHAT A PROLETARIAT REVOLUTION MEANS AND HOW RETARDS LIKE ANARCHISTS AND SOCDEMS DEVIATE FROM THAT. FUCKING "CRIT. OF GOTHA PROGRAMME," THE CLOSEST WE GOT TO MARX'S ACTUAL OUTLINE TO "WHAT HE WAS ADVOCATING FOR" IS A SPERGOUT OF HIS AGAINST FUCKING SOCDEMS. ALL OF THE AFOREMENTIONED ARE FACTS – YOU CAN CHECK OUT.
News 7/21/21Brazilian party began campaign to end blockade on Cuba
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Sapir–Whorf hypothesisThe hypothesis of linguistic relativity, also known as the Sapir–Whorf hypothesis, the Whorf hypothesis, or Whorfianism, is a principle suggesting that the structure of a language affects its speakers' worldview or cognition, and thus people's perceptions are relative to their spoken language.
colonialism and Post colonialismCan you explain me why some "comrades" have an understanding of colonialism that has more to do with Gnosticism than Materialism?
What's the deal with reactionary "communists"What's the deal with reactionary "communists"
Describing the phenomenon of false consciousnessFalse consciousness is generated by the capitalist mode of production which requires as a condition for its functioning the reification of its economic categories. This reification is done by individuals that operate within the capitalist mode of production as members of classes, groups of people that relate to each other socially based on their roles in capitalist production. Class consciousness develops from self-consciousness as individuals identify their material interests as proletarians or capitalists. An individual, as a member of a social class, can be said to harbor a false consciousness when their material interests are obscured by ideology. False consciousness prevents the individual's self-consciousness from developing into class consciousness, a process which on a mass scale prevents the formation of a conscious social class.
syringes4cubaStupidpol is currently doing a donation campaign to a charity that sends syringes to Cuba to help them fight COVID-19 infections.
News 7/20/21Police Motor Pool Firebombed by Dutch Anarchist Group, Revolutionary Resistance
GeorgismThoughts on the ideas of Henry George? Seems pretty based to me. Marx was critical of his ideas, agreeing with them in some basic respects but viewing it as a limp half-measure. I disagree with Marx here. George does not have the stigma Marx carries, and his idea is simple and utterly agreeable to all but the most hardened of porkies: people keep the value earned from everything they produce and unearned income from the ownership of land is all that is to be taxed. No sort of wishy-washy neoliberalist critique that taxing land would disincentivize development, land is a necessity and will be developed in more proactive ways if land speculation is impracticable because simply sitting on it will not yield a profit. As this would be a tax on "unimproved land value."
Why japan industrialized faster than the USSR and ChinaIt's not because japan was capitalist hell it's not even because of the martial plan, oddly enough it would be laziness. One major aspect that's quickly forgotten about the industrial revolution was that the rapid expansion in the production of material goods was triggered by the embracement of better technology and a willingness to find faster and faster methods of extracting more wealth out of the earths resources with less work, thousands of years of slavery had little impact on the worlds global poverty and starvation rates compared to the industrialization of agriculture and likewise with Japan's economy the rapid growth and increase within the material conditions of Japan's citizens could be described as the byproduct of that embracement of modern technology. It's been documented all over the planet that workers are generally more productive when they are labouring under better conditions and with the ussr and the ccp it was frequently reported that workers worked for little or no pay often times in poor and dangerous factories for long hours in cities that felt more like prisons than financial and industrial hubs of civilization and likewise the millions of socialists whom toiled endlessly for their cause would soon get outdone by an island nation with barely any resources on it
Colombian Protests Thread - Dia de la Independencia EditionProtests, marches and demonstrations were planned for July 20th, which is Independence Day for Colombia, a long time ago by labor unions and left wing politicians and they are kicking off today. This seems to have rekindled the spark to do nationwide protests against the Colombian government. It's still early in the morning here so don't expect many police confrontations just yet.
ideal social networkwhat would be the ideal social network site???
I am praying for this to NOT explodeMan I would be so UPSET and heartbroken if this ship exploded with a glorious, courageous and exceptional human in it like Jeff bezos. Lord please guide this plane back to earth safely intact.
Reformism ChallengeSuggest 3 reforms that you believe to be both desirable and immediately practicable by your countries government. Develop on your reasoning as much or as little as you please.
DemocratsHello, my name is Trump Support-er, and I hate liberals. I mean I really hate them. Democrats, liberals, conservatives, most socdems and demsocs. Really anyone who voted for a Democrat in the past four years. Sorry I used to make exceptions for "harm reduction" anarchists or whatever, but I'm very drained from being called a subhuman constantly by normie Biden supporters.
Base and Superstructure analysis of biological evolutionI've been thinking back and forth about this a lot from time to time.
Marxist History / HistoriographyWhere is it possible to find modern and materialist history of things?
Will things get better when Africa developJobs get outsourced to the ones willing to do it for less and or when the current workers ask for higher wages
Popular Revolution Is Myth - Authoritarianism İs NecessaryThere is a big redpill for you; none of the revolutions were popular and most of them were enforced to masses by a group of small people. That's includes most of those well-known revolutions too, where opressed masses uprise against opressors. At them, those revolutions only made by group of ""smart/bright people"" who tired by bastards; and they enforced their rule to the masses while masses despised them despite they made their conditions more better
Israel is about to go to civil warOver some tasty choco ice cream. Well /leftypol/ Who is in the wrong here?
News 7/19/21Nicaraguans celebrate anniversary of Sandinista revolution, vowing to repel renewed imperialist aggression
AnarkkkidsI don't see POC complain about ”oppressive governments” and ”totalitarian regimes” to the same extent as these white radlibs do around the clock, maybe if they left their cushy basements and went to the third world and noticed that anarchism wouldn't bring about the instantaneous change that they think it'd, then they wouldn't peddle the nonsense they do. There are regional difference in the extent of which anarchists have formed varying large movements, but nowhere to the scope of necessity for change. At bottom, the issue is that they don't grasp the power dynamics, even by their recognition power is asymmetrical. Bakunin, Kropotkin, et al. tried to come up with theoretical projects to find universally valid solutions to the asymmetries of power and authority, and while they had some contributions to make, they didn't have the insights of political figures like Lenin.
CENTRAL ASIA GENERAL-/CAG/Seeing that there is no dedicated thread for this part of the world I'm just gonna create one. Feel free to discuss anything happening in this part of the planet here.