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Bob AvakianMemes aside, has anybody read this? I'm curious to know whether there is anything actually worthwhile in it before I read it. From what I know about Bob Avakian and the revcoms, they seem to have some decent ideas, but not exactly a coherent platform, and they don't really seem to do much other than recruit new members. I've met a few of their members and they were all really nice people, but the whole party seems to be just a cult centered around BA (who has probably profited a lot from it over the years), and they will probably fall apart once the guy dies.
/ir/ - Infrared GeneralChannel link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl63ZOm_bepvwoKjw24rogA
WEST ASIA GENERALThread on one of the most unstable parts of the world.
NAZBOL GANGBut seriously, I just want to get this aside. And sorry if this has been discussed many of times (feel free to also link me to another board where this has been discussed). But what is really the appeal of National Bolshevism? It just seems very incoherent to me and just a hodgepodge of right wing and left wing ideas that is ultimately anti-liberal. If you want to have an effect on the world, shouldn't you have a more coherent ideology? Due to its incoherence it just seems more like a social club to me. Or like an aimless petty bourg movement. Does any Nazbol have a more or less unified theory on how human society develops (like Marxism)?
/USApol/ United States PoliticsTHE CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME EDITION
Soviet Wars 1917-1923(31)A million sides, constant changes of allies, a bunch of events - sort of the First World War in the South, in the Crimea and in the Urals, the latest fleet operations against the Germans and the Entente in the Baltic, literally Syria in the Ukraine, the Red Army attacking British tanks with bayonets near Arkhangelsk, the Wild West with Basmachi in Central Asia, Latin American partisanship in Siberia, White Genghis Khan is plotting something, White Czechs are fleeing from the Red Czechs with tsarist gold, finally the fight against anti-Soviet uprisings and simply hellish gang violence.
National TragediesWhat constitutes a national tragedy? Obviously one aspect to a national tragedy is that a wide percentage of the population is affected. Another aspect would be the longitude of the tragedy: the longer people have to suffer it the more severe, unbearable it becomes. In this sense the Holocaust for Jews and Gypsies, WW2 for Russians, or the century of humiliation for the Chinese are obvious "national tragedies" (or "ethnic tragedies" in the case of Jews & gypsies, but you get the point).
MYANMAR COUP THREADHello everybody.
OC Thread 8.0Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
New Atheists & PuritansSo previously I stumble this reddit thread about, "Why is almost everything haram in Islam?".
Anarchism GeneralThread for the discussion of Anarchism.
Dimitris Koufodinas Hunger Strike.Let us have a thread on the current hunger strike of Dimitris Koufodinas as it is clearly becoming a happening.
New Multitude magazineHi, Leftypol!
Bootstraps sillySo I'm a baby leftist, 19 years old. Living as NEET (unemployed, no experience/still green, haven't go to college but interested in computers & programming).
Thoughts on the PRO Act?There is a labor bill in US Congress right now known as the Protecting the Right to Organize Act of 2019 (PRO Act). If passed, it could potentially be the most sweeping labor reform bill since the Taft-Hartley Act of 1947, and the most pro-union labor reform bill since the National Labor Relations Act of 1935. Here's some changes it could make:
What the FUCK is going on in Xinjiang?I've heard wildly differing reports on what's going on there, ranging from China committing literal genocide against Uighurs, to China just re-educating terrorists, to nothing out of the ordinary going on there at all, or even that China is treating Uighurs better than Han people. This seems to be a highly polarizing issue, with liberals, conservatives, demsocs, and libsocs saying that China is eating Uighur babies for breakfast, and tankies saying the China is doing nothing wrong and that anything bad they allegedly do is just a CIA/Adrian Zenz fabrication.
News 3/3/21Reports: Myanmar security forces kill at least 33 protesters
/dprk/ -- DPR Korea GeneralThread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.
POTENTIAL HAPPENING IN HAITIHello guys, its me once again with another thread for a (potential) happening.
News 3/2/21Food Prices Are Soaring Faster Than Inflation and Incomes
Anyone else feel stunned at how insane Stalin's life story is?I'm listening to the Revolutions podcast atm and the dude is discussing the 1907 Bolshevik bankheist Stalin led and organized, to discuss this he gave the background on Stalin's life and holy fuck, this dude's life was crazy! Like, a committed revolutionary as a teenager, leader of the tiny faction of Georgian Bolsheviks, a genius and lover of the arts his entire life, a rough and tumble adventurer who had shootouts with tsarist officials while robbing trains and stagecoaches to fund the revolution, holy fuck this dude's young life is genuinely worthy of a film adaptation! Like, this genuinely sounds like shit out of a movie, a real life fantasy story. A dude who broke out of the gulags to nearly freeze in Siberia, but accomplished his escape later on anyway! Apparently when he attended his first Congress of socialist parties he was thrown off by how so many of them were effete writers and thinkers while he was a true revolutionary soldier. Honestly it's throwing me off since most famous socialists don't have life stories anywhere near as interesting as this.
What do you think about value and abstract labor, natural or temporary?In another thread >>96519 I wrote an explanation of Marx's use of value, exchange-value, and use-value. In my explanation, I tried to write from the perspective of describing processes, not defining terms, since Marx didn't treat them as terms to be defined.
The breadtuberWhat is it that leads modern "internet" leftists in the west to be so individualistic? Everyone wants to make their own ideology (ex: Anarcho-[insert]ism or Marxism-[insert]-[insert]-ism). Why are modern western leftists so disconnected from actual working class struggle and lean so hard into pedantry, arbitrary contrarianism, debate-bro-ism, edgy bullshit and just straight up grifting?
Sectarianism and DebateIt's quite revealing that sectarianism is the word so often used to describe leftist infighting, since it's typically in reference to conflict within religious groups. Regardless, this is how sectarianism is defined according to Wikipedia:
/SEA/ - Southeast Asia GeneralVolume 4: Finally some actual riots edition
COUP IN ARMENIA?https://twitter.com/KevorkAlmassian/status/1364863158955999233
Radical Liberalism as a parody of neoconservatismBurgerland post.
What happens if Iran gets the bomb?What would be the consequences of Iran getting nuclear weapons?
Waco siege threadWhats leftypols feelings on the waco siege? Ill start.
/auspol.org/ - Australia GeneralThread dedicated to the discussion of Australian politics and events.
Socialist parties in the US worth joining?I’ll tell you the truth, I had a long conversation with my parents where they more or less called me out for being a fucking coward that has beliefs I do absolutely nothing with. And they’re right, having communist beliefs and sitting with them is fucking cowardly, and I’m sick of being this way, I want to make a real difference, a communist who does nothing should have no right to call himself a communist. I’ just looked up US communist parties but the list was so long, can anyone narrow down a decent party that’s actually helping people?
Foco theoryIn Guerrilla Warfare (La Guerra de Guerrillas), Guevara did not count on a Leninist insurrection led by the proletariat as had happened during the 1917 October Revolution, but on popular uprisings which would gain strength in rural areas and would overthrow the regime. The vanguard guerrilla was supposed to bolster the population's morale, not to take control of the state apparatus itself and this overthrow would occur without any external or foreign help. According to him, guerrillas were to be supported by conventional armed forces:
Is the internet compatible with capitalism?When one sees how much the internet today has been stripped of any of its revolutionary potential and just made into a gigantic surveillance and propaganda machine one has to wonder if capitalism can really even function properly with novel civilization-changing technologies like the internet. Of course we know that the capitalist mode of production can't exist without constantly revolutionizing the means of production and technology and thus reshaping society as a whole in a fundamentally different way, but this time it feels like capitalism has hit a roadblock with this process and gave rise to a technology that could potentially be a threat to the very existence of the system, and thus it had to strip it of any meaningful difference between it and older communication technologies to where the internet has become just a faster TV, radio and telephone with higher rates of surveillance added on top.
McDonald’s Secretive Intel Team Spies on ‘Fight for $15’ Workers, Internal Documents ShowMcDonald’s collects ‘strategic intelligence’ on workers advocating for a $15 minimum wage, including ‘how and where will FF$15 attack the brand.’
TFW no GF moviewatched this today and found it very interesting as it was a very honest dive into the lives of alot of the image board types that make up the vast numbers of pol/ and othe reactionary Mosque shooter types and one thing i was distinctly able to notice throughout was how these young men spoke so strongly of an alienation they felt both from their peers and from any sort of greater meaning in their lives and i think its extremely interesting that alot of the Alt right and groyper types has been able to pick up these sorts at least in the first few years instead of them actually identifying with has created these unfair outcomes in capitalism and then wanting to change it they instead get pulled into this self loathing restarted misery hole of posting online and wanting to die.
Terminator CyborgThis maybe has been discussed before, but what if porkies steps ahead of us? I mean, they're building cyborgs to quell mass rebellion & exterminate us, don't they? What's the odds later? Can we survive against them? I don't want to be a doomer retard, but just how strong us the masses? It's never too late, isn't it?
What do you think actually living through and experiencing WWII was like?Sometimes I wish I experienced it since it sounds like the last truly epic event in human history and everything after will never be worthy of the history books in the way WWII was
Hayek on Engineers>It is important, however, to observe that the engineer's view of his job as complete in itself is, in some measure, a delusion. He is in a position in a competitive society to treat it as such because he can regard that assistance from society at large on which he counts as one of his data, as given to him without having to bother about it. That he can buy at given prices the materials and the services of the men he needs, that if he pays his men they will be able to procure their food and other necessities, he will usually take for granted. It is through basing his plans on the data offered to him by the market that they are fitted into the larger complex of social activities; and it is because he need not concern himself how the market provides him with what he needs that he can treat his job as self-contained. So long as market prices do not change unexpectedly he uses them as a guide in his calculations without much reflection about their significance.
Beer Hall Putsch VibesBelieve me when i say i'm well a-fuckin-ware that any comparison between Trumpism and National Socialism/Fascism is generally considered to be
how can we make communism less cringe?every time i try to promote leftism i get called cringe. seems everyone is gravitating towards fascism and nazism because its the only thing the establishment seems to attack all the time. they wouldn't attack it if they weren't scared of it they tell me
How can a world that makes such beautiful things, be so bad?I want a leftypol thread about the Duality of Man
Creative DestructionCreative destruction is the driving force behind capitalistic economic growth. Marx was the first to mention its destructive power.
News 3/1/21South Korea's Moon says Olympics may be chance for North Korea, U.S. talks
Any other LGBT+ people hate Bougeois "acceptance"?I just feel so lost right now. Almost everybody that I like hates LGBT+ people and all the liberals, neocons and other Atlanticists are wrapping themselves in the rainbow flag. How has it helped LGBT+ people in Russia, who are now villified as pro-NATO agents and sympathizers? Are gay Yemenis supposed the cheer the gay drone pilot that murdered their families? Are trans Venezuelans supposted to cheer now that trans North Americans can join the imperialist military? Is somebody who just got thrown into homelessness by their parents for coming out supposed to feel better that funds that could have been used to build housing for them were plowed into regime change ops and military boondoggles instead? How can they call themselves the "new civil rights movement" but be pro-empire and pro-austerity? I hate them, I hate their "open society" and "liberal democracy", I don't want them on my side and I would thank them by finding a way to stab them in the back.
Spain: Protests erupt across country after rapper's arrest>Spanish rapper Pablo Hasel's arrest has sparked protests in major cities, with critics calling his prosecution an assault on free speech. The artist was convicted for insulting the monarchy and glorifying terrorism.
Question for AnComs and other assorted anarchistsWould you work with real ancaps (not crypto-fash larpers) in destroying the state? Even the most radical of them I've seen say their ancap utopia is being something where they live in extremely decentralized autonomous zones. Keeping aside the fact that capitalism always produces monopolies they're at least against the government.
What's the deal with latinx?Why is this word a thing? English already has a native gender-neutral synonym for "latino": latin. You know, like in Latin America.
ECUADOR ELECTION THREADThis thread will be dedicated to the upcoming Feb 7 elections in Ecuador.
China worshippers eternally BTFODengoids and Xi simps can finally return to /pol/ where they belong and kill themselves. Chinese intellectuals and party officials are openly embracing the works of OG Nazi ideologues.
May DayWhat has become of this great event? Originally, International Workers' Day was a series of strikes intended to achieve the 8 hour work day. Nowadays, it's either just a mild socdem holiday, or some "revolutionary" anarchist LARP against the police. It's literally worthless. We won't achieve anything by going out to the streets to get beaten up by the police while also alienating the populace, because let's face it, no one likes it when random people start smashing shit for no apparent reason. It just makes the average people hate the left in general. That's why I think leftist movements shoud try to find a new goal to strive towards. This could be anything from demilitarization, protecting the environment or - preferably - workers' rights. In my opinion, at this point we could literally start a 6-hour movement and it would actually be feasible. We could also get massive popular support again this way. What's your opinion? Do you have any ideas for such a movement?
Tigray WarCan I get a quick rundown on what the fuck is going on here? I know very little about it. From what I understand, the Ethiopian government shut down an election in Tigray, so Tigray wants to become independent, but the Ethiopian government does not approve and the conflict spiraled out of control. Tigray's nationalist party is leftist in nature, but I have heard people accuse them of being western backed with the intention of sabotaging China's efforts in Ethiopia.
Communism vs anarchism middle ground?I feel like I can't really see myself ever truly aligning myself with either the classical state socialist model or a more anarchist one. I feel both have good things to offer in different contexts so I've been trying to think of some kind of middle ground both groups could find in common.
Could there be a split in the Republican Party in the near future?We've seen how the republicans have been split into two camps over the Trump fiasco: those who stood with Trump and thought he was the future of the party and the more "moderate" republicans who want to distance themselves from Trump and his ideology. Could this schism be the breaking point in the GOP's history, especially if the Democrats demonstrate that they could handle the current crisis better?
Why are there still unironic anarchists in 2021?Despite the fact that anarchists have not been able to pull off even (1) successful revolution, there are still millions of people, especially in the imperialist core, that cling to this impotent ideology. Are they really naive enough to think you can pull off a successful revolution without centralization and means of repressing reactionaries? Or did they just fall for CIA propaganda about muh authoritarianism. I honestly wonder how many anarchists are unironic glowies.
"Ownership" is arbitrary.Commies are dumb for thinking that ownership is a real thing because the category of the means of production in relation to its ownership is something that is measured through taxonomy, the same as a nation. The concept of prot and broug weren't enough, so you add the concept of petty bourg, taxonomy doesnt have the potential to be objective in the truest sense
If private property and land ownership aren’t natural, why do wolves have territories?Checkmate gommies
Wikipedia Love ThreadWe have two negative wikipedia threads:
Would historical materialism be wrong if there was an alien civilization?Let’s say there’s life on another planet that even had a civilization but that civilization never went through the modes of production on Earth, would histomat be wrong? Did Marx think there could possibly be life on other planets?
Are cops in socialist states bastards?"All cops are bastards" is common saying on the left, which is blunt way of saying that the institution of policing is inherently oppressive and should be abolished. I would imagine that leftypol believes that all capitalist cops are bastards, but what about socialist cops?
Escaping CensorshipThe tech media monopolies have been ramping up attacks on independent news media ever since the US capital riots, but they have really escalated censorship the last few days. Grayzone story getting tagged by Twitter as "material that may have been obtained through hacking", Analysis.news getting a video about the lack of police presence during the riots flagged by Youtube for spreading misinformation about election fraud, and Consortium News getting a video taken down for talking all about voter suppression.
Where the Proud Boys COINTELPRO?What is says in the title, were the Proud Boys COINTELPRO to distract the radical right from actual wignat terrorism and bring them under a controlled, honeypot org?
VegetarianismNot talking about Veganism, just about Vegetarianism. What are the pros and cons of it? Should Marxists support it? When yes, based on what reasoning?
CopypastaLet me see all your favourite Commiepastas, ill start
Imperial alliances and rivalriesWhy are some imperial states long-time allies with each other, and enemies with others? The UK, France, and the United States have been allied for quite a long time, though have considered Germany as an opponent for its first several decades as a unified state itself. Why Germany though? Doesn't France have competing interests for colonies with the UK and everything else like that? And what's with the UK having been allied with Portugal since 1386?
Black people, Burgerstan, and bizarre sexual pathologyPlease, please, please mods, this isn’t an idpol thread, I actually wanted to sort of analyze modern US racial ideology. Basically I wanna know….y’all got any theories as to why racism, both in the past and ESPECIALLY now seems so tied up with sexual pathology? For instance, a very popular porno genre in Burgertown is more or less endlessly playing out the Antebellum pathological fantasy of the slaves fucking the plantation owner’s wife. And adding to this is of course the way in Burgertown so many people (not even to say all or most Burgers) can’t just be attracted to someone of another race, it needs to be an entire pathological sexual obsession where they denigrate their own ethnicity while singing the praises of the fetish object with the fetish object still referred to as an OBJECT rather than a person. Shit in Burgertown like people getting shit from friends and family for dating someone of “le wrong colour”
Is America actually in terminal decline?A common theme I hear on this site is that America is losing its hegemony and is on the brink of collapse. I generally agree with the former, but I am much more skeptical about the latter. The America has been through a lot of tough shit, like the Civil War, the Long Depression, the Great Depression, and World War II, but managed to get through all of those in one piece. It has also long been an incredibly stable nation in spite of these crises, and has never come close to "collapse". People say the end of the petrodollar resulting from the loss of American hegemony will spell the end of America, but all I see it doing is, at worst, causing a recession. As I said, America has already experienced some big economic crises, so I don't see how a petrodollar crisis would be any worse. There are also issues like Global Warming and the falling rate of profit, but those will hurt every country, not just America.
Liberal Meets WorldA thread for moments when liberals discover through research something painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain.
Why did the Soviets stop at Berlin in 1945?The Soviets proved capable of pushing back the Nazis, so why didn't they finish the job and push the remaining capitalist scum into the Atlantic Ocean? Even the British under Churchill knew that the Soviets could beat them in war, as is evidence in their plans for Operation Unthinkable. Besides, communism was popular in Western Europe at that time, so the Soviets would have been greeted as liberators
Joint Statement: Slander and threats against the Communist Party of Venezuela are unacceptable>We reject any attempt to undermine the political rights of the PCV and the working class. In this sense, we demand that the government of President Nicolás Maduro stops the attacks and slander aimed at criminalizing the fair struggle of the PVC and the workers of Venezuela.
Year Zero (Abandon Marxism - Uphold Marx!)Let us discuss a year zero for theory.
Class character of the Myanmar Coup supportershttps://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/opponents-supporters-myanmar-coup-scuffle-more-protests-planned-14279510
News 2/27/21Philippine critics in firing line of anti-communist misinformation war
News 2/26/21Death toll update | 22 militiamen of Iraqi Hezbollah and Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces in US strikes on Syria-Iraq border
Africa GeneralAs asked by these users
How can I reorient my politics away from hatred and anger at anticommunists?I feel lost
is the UK a "managed democracy"?>A dominance of the media and civil society by the state and establishment, both through formal control of organisations, and through the control of media companies by wealthy individuals connected to the state.
Anti-Sectarianism: Anarcho-Third-WorldismShouldn't third worldists and first world anarchists be natural allies? Doesn't the third worldist want to destabilize the imperial core to undermine imperialism? Would not the anarchists in the imperial core (irrespective of whether they can actually build anything) help that goal of third worldists? And furthermore isn't imperialism the chief hierarchy in the world today and the one deserving the strongest and most direct opposition by anarchists?
Are Western WWII histories specifically written with rehabilitating the Nazis in mind?It seems like almost every POS western WWII history I read through goes out of its way to make lengthy dissertations discussing how the Wehrmacht cunts were actually beautiful angels nobly defending their country who were forced to do bad by the wicked mean SS, while the Red Army were largely composed of either savage brutes or virtual prisoners forced by pain of death to fight. They will claim the Red Army had utterly inferior tactics and inferior technology and only achieved victory by throwing so much bodies at machine guns that the Germans ran out of bullets.
ProgressThe idea of progress is a core foundation of leftism and especially in scientific socialism. I have some questions:
How effective was the Wehrmacht as a fighting force?I usually get shit from all around the board, from absolute dogshit, to the most effective military in the world in 1939; it’s either the extreme that the army was incredibly effective and their tactics (not strategy) was brilliant; other times I get that Hitler was just lucky because France went full retard, Britain was caught with their pants down, and the Soviets just didn’t think the Germans would be dumb enough to invade when they did. Which is it? Were the Red Army truly underdogs like Rocky Balboa, or was their victory always entirely assured?
/leftybritpol/ - Jacobite United Front editionMy love was born in Aberdeen,
Read Nancy FraserHer take on modern capitalism is brilliant.
Alexander DuginSo I am in the midst of reading the Fourth Political Theory by him and while I obviously don't agree with his conclusions, I can see some truth in his Criticism of the Ideologies of the 20th Century.
Anarchism is a good thing in the westI'm an ML-Cockshottist but i think its a good thing to promote anarchism in the west (as long as its REAL anarchism), especially in burgerland.
The western left is useless. Stop being useless, Deliver The Goods.The western left as it exists today is completely unfit for purpose. Worse, it is composed of people who each believe that they have all the answers, when in fact all they have is fantasies. These fantasies take many forms, from the naive to the inane, from "The Third World will fix society for me!" to "And then one day, as if by magic, Americans simply rose up and overthrew the bourgeoisie and established FALC."
Being a Leftist and Liking Hitler Same timeWhy Everyone calls me a nazi while i use wehraboo humour in ocassions like memes or jokes im somehow likely a Nazbol tier or something. I only like hitler for his biography but i do hate him for his imperialism.And also i love prussian marches (specially with NVA) and nazi occultism.
Why don’t burgers deserve pain?Need a good explanation for why the Amerifat masses shouldn’t just suffer at this point
Is China Imperialist?https://josemariasison.org/how-chinese-loans-become-unrepayable/
To the dedicated Vietnamese Poster(s)I know we at the very least we have one very dedicated Vietnamese poster who seems very critical of his own countries government and so on in regards to it not being a socialist state.
Why are almost all the commie subs on Reddit simultaneously Mao simps and Dengoids?Do they not understand the inherent contradiction in stanning Mao but also stanning the PRC which represents pretty much everything he criticized in the USSR but much worse and also exactly what he was trying to destroy with the Cultural Revolution?
Esoteric Hitlerism General: AFAP Edition (ALL FASCISTS ARE PEDOS)This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.
CLASS POSITION QUIZWhat class position are you and/or your family from? Both in Marxist and Weberian/modern sociological terms?
Michael Parenti THREADHe is a treasure. I was thus far more intersted on what he has to say about the media and contemporary capitalism, but his work on Roman history is also great. Am just watching his lecture on the assasination of Ceasar.
Development of African civilizationsI had a conversation on here with someone who seemed to know very interesting theories on the development of African tribes/civilizations from an environmental/geographical/material standpoint. Can you guys recommend me any related literature to that?
Tfw SEP unironically tries pretending like they have more value than the Black PanthersGotta say, this is the most sickening Weird Sex Web Site article I’ve read, these fuckers actually have the nerve to try arguing that the true revolutionary programme of the 1960s and 70s was not the global anti-colonial struggle, but some fucking newspaper shilling cunts nobody ever heard of who are of course connected to their own party
Great Man TheoryWhat exactly is wrong with it? Hegel believed in great man theory?
Maoism outdatedIf Maoism is based on organizing peasants and rural people, isn't it outdated now that urbanization is increasing and the majority of the worlds population, even third worlders, are now living in cities? Has the historical window of opportunity for Maoism just passed? Mao could never do his revolution that way today..
/sad/ - South Asia & Desi GeneralGeneral discussion on current events/politics from Pakistan to Bhutan.
Bourgeois Feminism>Most of those bourgeois women who act like lionesses in the struggle against "male prerogatives" would trot like docile lambs in the camp of conservative and clerical reaction if they had suffrage. - Rosa Luxemburg
getting a government jerbBurger post -
Compared to all other empires to have existed, would you say the British were the most good?Obviously no empire is good, and yet only the British Empire spread ideals of freedom, equality, and prosperity; people discuss the crimes of the empire, but how are they worse than the crimes of any other empire? Did not the Romans destroy all of Carthage and make the lands un-harvestable? Did not the Spanish utterly wipe out entire civilizations, invent the entire concept of race, and also (alongside the Portuguese) invent the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade? After all, the British were just trying to survive in the face of Spanish and Portuguese Imperialism. And the British also did destroy the slave markets in the end, of all people in history the British Empire were the first to abhor the scourge of slavery and the first to destroy it so utterly that it can no longer be conducted on any legal basis. The British also spread industrialization thus creating the modern world, and even in their colonial conquests they stated they were trying to uplift people unlike all others who justified their crimes with “Muh God muh savages”. Weren’t the British, therefore, the least bad of all the capitalist empires? Just look at the Japanese and Germans, they intentionally tried killing as many people as they possibly could largely just to kill them; look at the Americans who were the chief architects of the destruction of socialism and worker’s rights all over the world.
Green capitalism isn't politically viableCapitalism is simply incompatible with environmentalism. If you had green capitalism it would be neo malthusian and incredibly unpopular because in order to sustain the level of inequality produced by capitalism it would have to degrade workers living standards. The only politically viable green system is one that compensates falling living standards due to cutbacks for environmental purposes. Again, this is just on the political level, assuming a truly green capitalism is even practically possible, which again is also pretty dubious. But even if it were it would be so unpopular as to make it politically impossible. In order to have an actual green economy which the majority will buy, it will have to cut off excess consumption of the upper classes.
Torquemada syndromeTorquemada syndrome is a phenomenon that manifests itself as a vicious hatred for jewish population from people who are themselves of jewish origin.
News 2/25/21Xi Jinping declares China free of absolute poverty
Whatabout Whataboutism?Is whataboutism a valid logical fallacy or just a way to control the flow of debate? Does it really give us a closer step to attaining the truth? Let's suppose this scenario:
Why anarchism has develloped in indonesia ?It seems his images come from the struggles of farm workers.I saw MLs say that anarchism was a COINTELPRO plot and that was why there was no anarchism outside of the 1st world, so it reminded me of that. Anyone, how is this movement developed? How did he appear?
Read Mobleypicrel was an analyst at the CIA who wrote a doctoral dissertation examining various terrorist and revolutionary organizations and concluded the centralized orgs had a better chance of surviving.
EcodoomerIf we don't end capitalism within 10-15 years, the climate will start going into a vicious nosedive that will lead to climate apocalypse and the human race will be dead within 100-200 years no matter what we do at that point. Literally just the eco-pilled version of "Children of Men", the final hour of humanity in a disaster capitalist "barbaric" mode of production, which IMO is way more likely than socialism/communism or even porky's great reset bullshit even standing a chance.
Covid>Pfizer, Moderna vaccines have reduced effectiveness against South African variant, studies show
Alt-Board Revival InitiativeHey leftybros you know what it is
“Muh Empire dindu nuffin!”Why does the Japanese government do this?
Why has the American left long been so weak?The United States tends to be more right-wing than most rich countries in a number of areas, such as healthcare, criminal justice, labor union density, environmental policy, and others. It is also the only rich country that doesn't have a social democratic labor party. However, the reasons the for this American exceptionalism are somewhat of a mystery to me. I go ahead and do some speculating:
News 2/24/21Rioters erect barricades & throw bottles at police during 8th night of Pablo Hasel protests in Barcelona (VIDEO)
How to stop being angry and depressed all the time?You know how things are, you know how unlikely they are to get better, so how can I feel better about it? I spend all my time trying to be distracted with videogames or whatever and try not to think about the world or about my life (no job, living with parents, etc etc).
China, Russia, and Iran moving along the lines of a formal military alliancehttps://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/02/19/iran-f19.html
"Marxism is a liberal conspiracy"Any ideas in debunking the trumpfag's accusation that liberalism is a form of marxism/ cultural marxism plagues america/etc once and for all? Which is the quickest way? I've literally seen a bumper sticker that said "defeat marxism, vote republican". How can you defeat a scientific truth?
News 2/23/21Greek Police violently attacks university students' protest
We already have Communismsays Zizek in the Form of Intellectual Property and the Failure of the Bourgeoisie to completely privatise it. But where is he taking that from? Most people use Netflix and Spotify. It seems that the Opposite of his statement is true, or have I misinterpreted him.
ITT - We write a musical about the Russian RevolutionI wanna see Leftypol’s creative capacity
News 2/20/21Colombia tribunal reveals at least 6,402 people were killed by army to boost body count
Your classist biasRap is one of my favorite genres, the one I've most been involved with and grew up surrounded by. And I love bringing it up to discussion around so-called lefties because of how effective it is in making petty bourgeoisie, or "the middle class", oust themselves. They're the ones that have been handed relative economic comfort and have been taught to dislike anything that involves poors, especially that of color origin, so the common saying when talking about music preferences is "everything except for country and rap". God damn do I love hearing that.
The next industrial revolutionSo what are your predictions what societal impact the next industrial revolution powered by the next generation of AI will be? The most rudimentary manual work will be replaced first. Office type of tasks that don't require much training are also being replaced. Some online articles and attorney letters are already being written by machine learning algorithms as far as I know.
Signs that someone is a liberal while pretending to be a leftistlemme start
News 2/22/21Witness to Pau D’Arco Massacre Murdered in Brazil
End of American hegemonyWith China rising as a world power, the era of American world hegemony will soon come to an end. I have a few questions:
WMDsWhat does the current state of WMDs look like and where to get up to date information on it (as limited as they may be)? Information regarding nuclear weaponry seems to be relatively public to an extend, but I am highly curious regarding chemical and biological WMDs because of their greater secrecy. They seem much more taboo and are generally not considered or talked about, despite that their potential destructiveness isn‘t small at all. What gives? Why do we hear next to nothing about them in comparison to nukes? And what do we know about the world super powers arsenal when it comes to them?
The sociopathic faggotry of the upper middle class/PMCI fucking hate this culture
How can I continue to believe in communism when people are such awful cunts?I’m really trying to hold onto my belief that a change is possible and everything but, but what if people actually ARE just cruel rotten cunts with a greater penchant to do harm more than anything else? I mean, what if everyone is just a piece of shit? What if things really can’t change in any positive way? I’m trying really, really hard to have faith and love for humanity, but it’s so hard to actually see anything good in them, and I’m just so tired honesty, maybe it’s better if another species millions of years from now gets another chance?
GOP BLUE COLLAR PARTY SUPPORThttps://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/gop-rapidly-becoming-blue-collar-party-here-s-what-means-n1258468
Toxic Chemicals Threaten Humanity’s Ability to ReproduceFull Interview: https://theintercept.com/2021/01/24/toxic-chemicals-human-sexuality-shanna-swan/
How much power does /pol/ have?I can't really decide if they are actually all that powerful or not. It seems like some of their support is astroturf but sometimes I think that they will be back in 2020 or so. The right is very good at being trendy little bitches and they have already found some chick that "named the jew" or some garbage.
The original antagonistic contradiction; Hoomans vs the Pleistocene megafaunaOn the one hand humans were already apex predators in every environment they found themselves in
Jesus this is humiliating...Ever since I stopped being a Misanthropic, Eco-Fascist Anti-SJW, I've found myself becoming increasingly more Jaded and unimpressed with the uptick in Anti-Leftist/Reactionary dogma that came after pointless internet rage-baby nonsense like GamerGate and The Alt-Right/Lite Bullshit.
Mini Happening?Judging from this https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/308972829 it seems three volcanoes in Guatemala are about to go off at the same time.
The Rise of Authoritarian Liberalism>Macron cracking down on yellow vest protesters and out and out calling for anti-democratic reform to stop "right-wing populists"
Why have ML states in history taken away the rights of people?1. Im not talking about bourgoise rights like "muh property" but Im talking about natural rights. There is a key distinction.
Biden calls for expanded efforts to protect LGBTQ rights globallyhttps://web.archive.org/web/20210217193021/https://www.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN2A42KF
/U/SSRReminder that Stalin was YURI GANG
How do Muskfags convince themselves tech has advanced in any meaningful way in the past 20 years?Like, holy fuck, when I say “Muskfags” I mean futurologist types in general, who think the world has experienced some sort of amazing technological acceleration in the past two decades. How the fuck do these people believe such stupid shit? They talk about cellphones (which already existed in the 20th Century) getting more streamlined and getting internet connections….and basically nothing else. Like, all the tech “advancements” of the past 20 years has been almost exclusively AI oriented and despite that we’re still decades away from anything like an actual Artificial Intelligence ala SKYNET or HAL 9000 if creating those things is even possible which it may not be. What the fuck do these people even see exactly? The greatest technological advancement of the past forty years has basically been better cancer treatments, better computers, the Large Hadron Collider, and the Internet. That’s about it. The VAST MAJORITY of tech advancement has been updating shit that was created in the 20th Century. Even military drones legit originated from World War fucking II, look it up, the Nazis and Soviets each utilized bomb carrying buggies and teletanks that were controlled remotely, even the US managed to make their first autonomous bomb around this time.
Deplatforming WorksI hate it, but you have to admit. it is effective.
weedWhat is leftypol's position on marijuana, criminal justice, etc.? Is weed culture and weed smoking proletarian?
News 2/19/21NATO hasn’t reached decision on whether to leave Afghanistan as deadline looms
Social Media vs ImageboardsWhat is the difference between traditional methods of internet communication like messageboards, chat rooms, email lists, IRC, PHPBB bulletin boards, and even imageboards, and “Social media”?
The Second Sino-Japanese WarITT we discuss the little mentioned heroic resistance of the Chinese people against genocidal Japanese imperialism; whose crimes were so great that even though historians question whether the Japanese Empire can be properly termed “fascist”, they cannot deny that their crimes were on par with those of Nazi Germany’s. In their heroic resistance the Chinese bled the Japanese military dry, though the victory is oft handed to the Americans it must never be forgotten that it was the sacrifice of millions of Chinese men and women which brought low the Japanese Empire while it was still so young
MLM J. Moufawad-Paul interviewedProminent Marxist-Leninist-Maoist theorist J. Moufawad-Paul video was just released, where he was interviewed by Paul Morrin.
Entertaining Wikipedia FindsShare Wiki articles or quotes that you found amusing, interesting, weird, etc with your comrades in this thread so that they can share in your amusement, interest, bewilderment, etc.
MBAWhat the fuck is even taught in an M.B.A.?
Honor, Duty, Valor!Really wanna know, are these things all just made up bullshit ideas primarily that are constructed by the ruling class as a way to, like, justify to people why they should join the military and shit? See, I was thinking about my sorta bizarre masculine obsession with….with being like my ancestors who fought in the American Civil War and the Great War and Second World War, doing shit like rushing forth bayonets affixed courageously charging at the enemy; I imagined winning honor and glory on the battlefield through victory or death, but then it kinda dawned on me that that shit would mean nothing if I actually died on the battlefield and my death really WOULD probably just be for some rich dude to expand his market share. And yet the Soviets also awarded soldiers with things like “Hero of the Soviet Union” in WWII.
How would historical materialism change if humans were not primates?Let’s say, hypothetically, there was a creature on Earth roughly around when we evolved that was equal to our intelligence and had some ability to grasp things and grasping appendages made for dexterity as well; except they aren’t at all primates and humans don’t even exist
News 2/18/21Bolivia's Central Bank Returns Añez's Requested Loan To IMF
Liberalism and MediaA bit of a different Approach to Media and its degrading quality, because of Liberalism. But I have this feeling, that even the most praised pieces of Media, whether it is Berserk in Manga, the Sopranos in TV or most of the Oscar nominated Movies, have one thing in Common, when talked about why they are so good or better than other pieces of Media.
OilWhy is it so important for the US that other countries trade oil in the US dollar? Does the petrodollar incentivize oil as an energy source, stifling green energy? Is it true Iraq was invaded partially because Saddam wanted to trade in Euros instead, which EU leaders liked but American ones didn't?
DiscordWhy the fuck did this thing take over?
Vaush LimbaughAre modern streamers like Vaush/Destiny/Hasan/etc. just the modern version of AM radio pundits like Rush Limbaugh? Limbaugh (just died) would basically just rant about conservative edgy boomer shit for 3+ hours on his show, modern edgyboi streamers are just doing the Zoomer version of that.
The cultural revolutionI would like to start a thread for the discussion of the cultural revolution. What are the pros? What are the cons? And what was the material necessity and reason for such an act? I think the over all idea of the cultural revolution is fair and needed, but, I also think that the major issue with the cultural revolution was the in ability to distinguish between workers and working class people and the capitalist class; What I mean is that capitalists getting drug out in the street and beat to death is based, but, revolutionary students did shit like loot peoples personal properties they just simply didn't like regardless of class. Stealing peoples personal belongings is autistic. I think that A constitutional federal socialist republic could have prevented this. People should have clear and unalienable rights under any government and had this been the case under the Cultural Revolution we might be able to look back on it positively.
Stagnation of Musichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsQCkHcEmjU
Let's talk about TurkmenistanWhy is it that we never hear about Turkmenistan in the medias?
Why do burgers seem unable to comprehend even the simplest Marxist concepts?I mean it's like, so much of what Marx wrote is plainly self evident if you've ever had a job, and yet Muricans seem like, it seems like it even goes beyond propaganda, it's as though Americans are ACTIVELY trying not to understand Marxism on absolutely any level, it's like that joke in Spongebob where Patrick states that his stupidity fluctuates throughout the day and he actively chooses to be more or less stupid, that's the feeling I get whenever I try talking about Marxism with burgers
Communists fought the real life equivalent of LOTR in WWIIHow can libs cope knowing that communists largely fought and won the most important conflict in human history?
How can anyone be an ancap?Even most porkies know how fucking retarded ancap is, pretty much every capitalist with any real power would bust out laughing if you propose that anarcho-capitalism is the way to go and hell I’d imagine they’d even chuckle at the slightly less retarded lolbertism.
FascismFascism in 20th century Europe was mainly just authoritarian social democracy. Basically a way to cope with the crisis of Capitalism on one hand by buying off parts of the working class with socdem concessions while also scapegoating racial/ethnic minorities like jews, gypsies, etc. for the problems of capitalism like the great depression. A lot of the aesthetics of fascism, red color scheme etc. are ripped off of Soviet Marxism. Fascism is the ultimate LARP ideology because it ripped off the aesthetics (and even the name socialism) from the left to pretend to be revolutionaries, combining influences from conservatism, monarchism, capitalism, and Marxism, to create something that transcended and also rejected all of them.
The culture war problemHalf of the working class is permissive on social issues and the other half is conservative/traditionalist. Class unity requires both halves to work together, but it's unlikely that liberals can tolerate religious conservatives and vice versa. Lenin had both the industrial workers and the peasants, how can the modern left unite the working class when they are so divided by cultural issues?
News 2/16/21Turkish army humiliated by PKK in Iraqi Kurdistan as it is forced to retreat with ‘the blood of its own people on its hands’
News 2/17/21Spanish police fire rubber bullets after Barcelona protest demanding rapper’s release descends into riots (VIDEOS)
do you even need theory to be a good leftisti have a lot of friends involved IWW and SRA and such who don't even read theory but have done great things. Do you need to ready theory to be a good leftist? Or do you need to be in orgs to be a good leftist? This is all arbitrary but i'd love to hear your thoughts
Am I the only anon here to have read Hobsbawm’s book series?Every few months I make a post about the Age of… series written by Eric Hobsbawm which covers history from the French Revolution to the fall of the Soviet Union
Racism vs IDPOLIMO racism and racial oppression is more real than other types of idpol, at least in burgerland. Feminism has already mostly succeeded and LGBT people have rights, no one even dislikes gays anymore except evangelical rednecks etc. In most major metropolitan areas LGB people are accepted, the only even slightly controversial one is trans people.
The only war where the US was unequivocally the good guy was against itself>Inb4 autists screech about how evil doesn’t technically exist as though this is fucking reddit and as if Maoists and MLs don’t call shit out as evil all the fucking time so long as it’s convenient
Terrorism>Terrorism is, in the broadest sense, the use of intentional violence for political or religious purposes. It is used in this regard primarily to refer to violence during peacetime or in the context of war against non-combatants (mostly civilians and neutral military personnel).
News 2/15/21Anti-fascists protest at annual commemoration of Bulgarian pro-Nazi general Hristo Lukov
Is the harm done irreversible?Is the harm done regarding climate change irreversible by now? We have not done enough and it looks like we will still not do enough to effectively combat climate change. I'm just wondering, hypothetically, if humans died off (for whatever reason) in 2050, could Earth recover?
Agitprop threadI recently had the idea that we should use the focus on black lives matter to bring attention to flaws of capitalism, we should make infographics in the style of protest art that talk about things like France's exploitative relationship with African countries, wealth extraction, the gulf states still having slavery, black people in Libya being sold in open air slave markets when they previously had it good under Gaddafi. Sneak in the leftist vegetables in the junk food of idol. We could reach a quite a few people with short easily spreadable images with these ideas.
Defund the military-intelligence-industrial complexWhy doesn't this idea get more traction? Organizations like the CIA, the NSA, us army, etc. Have done far, far, far more damage to the world that the US police. The police have beat black people? The CIA has literally had death squads murder brown people who objected to their nations oil being siphoned off by Exxon Mobil. The police monitor and surveil minority neighborhoods? The FBI wiretapped MLK and did everything they could to undermine Civil Rights and the anti war protests.
Academics are prolesWhat's witth this /r/stupidpol meme that academics are not proles. First, in burgerland and canada Masters and PhDs often take the form of a normal wagie position, in which you are employed in one part for menial academic jobs, like grading papers, teaching people, assisting in a lab doing chores, and when it's worse, you do the lowest jobs ever, like working in the cafeteria, or literally doing chores like the normal servant you are. There is also the academic side, in which you literally work for the university, a lot universities in canada accept this too, in there you are literally paid money to research, because they know, some times they don't even employ you in something else directly, but rather force you to be employed with poverty wages. Secondly, academics suffer from the worse evils of capitalism, with long hours that you are force to fufill because of the university quotas, and the labour laws don't cover you, and when they do, the university often forces you to work more than the regular working day, like first world equivalent to what's like working in south america These positions are often associated with depression and suicide, with people developing serious mental illnesses just by the sheer allienation that you have from your own mental capacities. You can become part of the surplus population too, and ending up destitute, if somehow the university doesn't like you anymore. And it's the same shit when you are not a student, and are graduated, except you do the work side by being a teacher, and still have simmilar constraints. This is the exception when you become a department head, or get a serious position, in which case you status as a prole, can be iffy, because you can get sometimes part of the profit of the people you handle, but not always, a lot of times, you are just a simmilar prole working 18 h a day, but grading papers, and working with money instead.
Too much to readIt's hard to read everything, and it's difficult to read all the stuff Marxists publish while we're in a revolutionary stance. I mean the goal is to fuck up the people ruling and doing our stuff right? So why should I read millions of words about culture and shit under capitalism?
Great leftist speechesItt contribute great speeches or writings from leftwing historical figures. So we can enjoy the inspiration, learn the ideas and spread them on the interwebs
Good Leftist Online Publications?I am only aware of Jacobin and Current Affairs. I would like some that aren't anglo-centric, so I can learn what's going on in the rest of the world.
be honest...What books have you actually read?
Is PMC an actual class?I keep hearing about the term PMC used a lot by various sorts of people and it seems like it does have validity even if it doesn't line up with classical marxist definitions of the term class and how it's relationship with the means of production is defined. That being said there is obviously various flavors of heirarchies for workers, such as the military and then you have the PMC who lords over the regular proles such as people who work in McDonalds or in like mines.
How important is the "dialectical" part of Marxism?I read through most major works of Marx, Engels and Lenin. However, I've been dodging the more Hegel-heavy texts like the German Ideology or the Feuerbach critique (not the short theses).
German youth movement and paramilitary groupsI recently learned about the anti nazi you gangs in ww2 germany