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Will work be mandatory under socialism?

I can see how having a "he who does not work shall not eat" rule might be necessary in desperate times, like during a war or a famine, but it doesn't seem like it would be necessary during times of prosperity. Additionally, making it so that people have to work in order to survive makes it easier for exploitative labor relations to exist, as people may find that entering into such labor relations is the only way they can survive.
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/dprk/ -- DPR Korea General

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.&
Archive of first ~500 posts on original thread:
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🗽/USAPol/ - United States Politics 🦅
Thread for petit discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the earth.

Other livestreams:
CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFE
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Why do people hate george orwell?

People call him a traitor, but who did he betray exactly?
People call him a fed, but the fed thing is highly disputed and if memory serves comes from one unreliable source.
People call him english chauvinist, but that was only because of his time and upbringing, however his books stand the test of time.
Orwell was a hero and he killed fascists.
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/brg/ Brasil

🇧🇷 /brg/ Brasil General 🇧🇷
Brazilian Lenin edition
Last one got full
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Internet Trash General
Please post your twitter screenshots and related social media and website gossip in here, rather than start an entire thread for it.

Edit: Youtube general has been merged back into this thread
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For a complete reading list, see: https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2020/05/01/two-reading-lists/

Cockshott's Patreon

Cockshott's youtube channel

Cockshott's Blogs

Cockshott's videos torrent archive
Here's the torrent with all of Paul Cockshott's YouTube channel videos up to 27/10/2020 (i.e. Eliminating inequality):
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This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and of course the great immortal scientist himself, WILLIAM PAUL COCKSHOTT.

Archives of previous thread
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/pol/ Why is anyone taking /pol/ seriously?

Here is the question:
Why is anyone taking /pol/ seriously?

After having over 100 debates on /pol/ here is what I learned /pol/ is literally worthless, nothing will come from it and nothing will happen you will also not change /pol/.

There is nothing of value on /pol/.
Why do I know this?
Lets get started about 70% of /pol/ are retarded schizos.
We are talking people who will go:
>TL;DR the left can not meme
To everything that is a long post so they are defective and literally unable to learn anything.

To give you a example I made a 10 panel comic to illustrate a point short text got this from a /pol/ retard as a response.
I'm sorry if you are mentally unable to handle a 10 panel comic that has pictures for your retard brain to not get exhausted on text then you are literally unable to understand or learn anything.

And these TL;DR fagots are thinking they are super smart or geniuses for having the mental capacities of a 5 year old.

You will never educate these retards its pointless.

The other fact is that there is like 20% of schizos there, literally will start rambling schizo garbage with no end. Once more you can not argue with schizos.

Then you have your typical nazi who is a walking joke you know the ones who will scream about jews and if you post something he does not like he will call you a jew. These are the debate skills of this idiot.

However this does not explain the core why /pol/ is trash.
99.99999% of all conversations you will have on /pol/ are literally pointless.
99.99999% of your opponents will literally never continue a conversation.

Let me illustrate how this works:
YOU-0) you post a solid argument or debunk some /pol/ nazi garbage.
Then you get :
Oponent-1) Shit post disagreeing with you pic one of these or mutate them
>Shut up jew
>blue pilled
You-2) you debunk this trash or point out that its vapid and empty

And the other side never responds. Literally its 1 shit post and the IP never responds.

The other variant is
Oponent-3) Some vauglly related response that is also wrong and deeply nonsensical or more shit posting.
You-4) You debunk this trash
And the other guy never responds.

Other examples are non shitpost responses who are deeply self contradictory, or collapse if confronted with reality.
These can go on for 3 or even 4 posts and then the IP never responds.

At this point you are wasting your time no one there has the attention span to continue any conversation.

The most ironic and self deprecating must be the retards who say
>X number of posts by this IP
Like you making more then 4 posts is bad or something.
I will never be sorry for being someone who engages in a debate.

Because of this /pol/ is a ocean of piss only shit posts and idiots shit posting to things they don't like.

There are many theories why this is so:
Autist theory:
Basically 4chan and /pol/ are full of retards and schizos and autists who are incapable of functioning in any other way and this is them in action.

FBI theory:
This one is simple /pol/ is a FBI honeypot to catch nazis, most of the time you are talking to a FBI agent or a FBI bot who pretends to be a nazi.
The bot theory explains why all the posts are so shit its a AI who is simple and works like this.

This also explains why its always max 4 posts and the IP vanishes, the FBI agent switches his IP in his VPN to something different or the FBI bot does this and continues shitposting.

This reminds me of a picture posted on 4 chan of Homer Simpson basically saying that you need to get out of 4chan since no one has debates here or learns anything only shitposts at one another.

There is nothing of value there are nothing will happen there the autists shitpostign there will never organize or do anything or leave the basement. And the FBI agents will stay FBI agents.

If you want to see how shit /pol/ is keep on posting to find out for yourself however know that you are waiting your time and possibly sanity.

PS: forgot to add this. Some can say that I'm over reacting with the max 4 reply thing however 20 incidents like this in every thread can be explained
<Maybe the guy needed to go?
<Maybe it was only this idiot?
Sure however over 99 times in all threads? Sorry at this point its a established fact.
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Working Class vs PMC

One little-known element of that gap is that the working class resents professionals but admires the rich. Class migrants (white-collar professionals born to blue-collar families) report that “professional people were generally suspect” and that managers are college kids “who don’t know shit about how to do anything but are full of ideas about how I have to do my job,” said Alfred Lubrano in Limbo. Barbara Ehrenreich recalled in 1990 that her blue-collar dad “could not say the word doctor without the virtual prefix quack. Lawyers were shysters…and professors were without exception phonies.” Annette Lareau found tremendous resentment against teachers, who were perceived as condescending and unhelpful.

Michèle Lamont, in The Dignity of Working Men, also found resentment of professionals — but not of the rich. “[I] can’t knock anyone for succeeding,” a laborer told her. “There’s a lot of people out there who are wealthy and I’m sure they worked darned hard for every cent they have,” chimed in a receiving clerk. Why the difference? For one thing, most blue-collar workers have little direct contact with the rich outside of Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous. But professionals order them around every day. The dream is not to become upper-middle-class, with its different food, family, and friendship patterns; the dream is to live in your own class milieu, where you feel comfortable — just with more money. “The main thing is to be independent and give your own orders and not have to take them from anybody else,” a machine operator told Lamont. Owning one’s own business — that’s the goal.

What does /leftypol/ think of this phenomenon?
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Why is criticism of ruling ideology permitted under western liberalism but not under state socialism? Does this mean that liberalism has an anti-fragility that past socialist societies lacked?
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Are the Peace Corps a CIA front? I mean, they have clearly designed procedures on their application process about they forbid any CIA employees joining so it seems like a stretch.
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/leftydeutschpol/ - Deutschland General

Letzter Pfaden wurde dank der /Pol/acken vom Brett gepusht. Deshalb ein neues Deutschland General.
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Thread on one of the most unstable parts of the world.
Hope local anons will contribute.


-Ansarullah's Marib offensive in Yemen is going on but getting progressively slower and slower: https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?mid=1k_5mC2oHM9Lj4I5irFA0pkXbqKQ&ll=15.368048501226081%2C45.226202631639545&z=12

-Lebanon's collapse accelerating, sparking protests
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Leftist Fyre Festival

So Gazi's group "Black Hammer" managed to raise $64,632 so he can build his own fruity little village for "colonized people" and now claims to have bought 200 acres with it. You'd have trouble buying 20 acres in Asscrack, Montana for $65k, but Gazi supposedly found someone willing to sell him 200 acres for less than $65k, because the $65k is supposed to cover all the costs of building his town, not just buying the land. One wonders that, even with 100% volunteer labor, how many buildings, roads, etc Black Hammer could be able to build with a measly $65k.

When asked about the financials behind this, people are directed to donate to Black Hammer.

When someone suggest they do soil testing, they got an… interesting reply.

Dis gon b good
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2021 Peru Elections General

>Pedro Castillo and Verónika Mendoza signed a joint declaration on Wednesday sealing Mendoza's support for Castillo going into the Presidential runoff election. They also agree to work together in order to "achieve a government of the people."

The left in Peru is uniting behind a Marxist candidate who is on the verge of BTFOing the Fujimoris, neoliberals all around the world seething about his friendship with Morales & Maduro.

Can we show this based Incan some love?
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News 5/7/21

Israel forces kill two Palestinians at West Bank checkpoint
Israeli soldiers shot and killed two Palestinians and critically wounded a third on Friday at a checkpoint near the West Bank city of Jenin, the Israeli army said. The army claimed that the three men were carrying homemade rifles and opened fire at the soldiers manning the checkpoint, before being shot in response.

Afrin Liberation Forces kill 5 mercenaries and injure six
In a written statement, the Afrin Liberation Forces (HRE) said that they carried out a series of actions in Afrin and Sherawa on 28 and 30 April. According to the statement, 5 invaders were killed and 6 were injured as a result of these actions.

A new armed group called “FLNC Magjhu 21” announces its creation
Presenting itself as a gathering of “activists from all components of the FLNC” currently asleep, this new armed group announced that it had decided on a “tactical redeployment, in anticipation of the French state’s strength of a real political settlement process.” of the Corsican national question ”, during a clandestine press conference broadcast in part by France 3 Corse.

School Teacher Leads Voting Intentions In Peruvian Elections
According to Datum International (DI), Castillo could receive 41 percent of the votes, while Popular Force (FP) candidate Keiko Fujimori would get 36 percent. The school teacher is a favorite in all regions except in Lima, where the daughter of former President Alberto Fujimori has 48 percent of voting intention.

Contract worker held for Maoist links given bail by Bombay HC
In her order, she noted that the charge sheet in the case had not revealed any cogent material against Singapanga, who was arrested along with others by the Anti Terrorism Squad under the stringent Unlawful Activities Prevention Act (UAPA) on the basis of "secret information" the agency had received.

Chile copper miners cry foul as royalty bill advances to Senate
Daniel Nunez, a communist party lawmaker and outspoken advocate of the bill, said miners should "quit their crying." "The big miners in Chile should pay more when they earn more," he said, emphasizing the needs of Chileans at a time when company profits from the sale of copper are soaring.

Brazilian Justice Investigates Police Raid That Left 25 Deaths
According to Brazil's Observatory and Security Network, the agents did not respect the decision of the Supreme Federal Court (STF), which prohibited police raids during the pandemic, except in emergencies. Images spread on social networks show police officers pointing guns at citizens, the streets of the community covered in blood, and people crying with their belongings on the pavement.

Images of Filipino students 'calling for end to free food stalls' have been doctored
Police have reportedly profiled volunteers and a spokesman for Duterte's anti-communist task force even misleadingly accused the movement of being rebel sympathisers. … In the original photos, the students were in fact holding placards that defend community-run stalls. The original cards read: “FINANCIAL AID, NOT RED-TAGGING!” “DEFUND NTF-ELCAC! DEFEND COMMUNITY PANTRIES!”

Urban poor leader released on bail
She is facing child abuse and human trafficking charges over her purported recruitment of minors to become members of the New People’s Army, the armed wing of the Communist Party of the Philippines. These charges, Kadamay said, are “utterly ridiculous, baseless and yet warranted almost a quarter of a year in jail where she was repeatedly denied food and other basic needs.”

Keir Starmer told to urgently change course following crushing Hartlepool defeat
Rightwingers tried to blame former leader Jeremy Corbyn for the result, despite Labour holding Hartlepool twice under his leadership – including, in 2017, with a dramatic 16.9 per cent increase in the Labour vote compared with 2015. Peter Mandelson, a former Hartlepool MP, said Mr Corbyn was still casting a “very dark cloud” over the party and claimed he had heard on the doorstep anger at its leftward shift ever since 2010.

German state of Saxony officially designates anti-Islam & anti-immigrant Pegida movement ‘extremist’
“Proven far-right extremists have had a significant influence” over the movement in recent years, the security service said, adding that they acted as “organizers, speakers and managers” of Pegida events. The group also started espousing views that directly contradict German basic law, the BfV noted, adding that the movement “rejected” the rule of law and the role of the parliament.

Outrage against government inaction as fire at tower block with Grenfell-style cladding leaves 40 needing treatment
The London Fire Brigade (LFB) was called to the 19-storey New Providence Wharf development, near Canary Wharf, this morning, where a fire engulfed three floors. Two adults had gone to hospital after suffering the effects of smoke inhalation and a further 38 adults and four children were treated at the scene, LFB said.
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Rojava General 2.0

Thread to discuss that on going situation in Rojava and wider Kurdistan in an informative and positive manner.
This means discussion of kurdish culture, regional news, activism, respects to our dead comrades, propaganda.
This does not mean whining like a little bitch burger.

Gerîla TV releases footage of action in Çukurca

>Gerîla TV released footage of a military action carried out by the Martyr Delal Air Defense Forces in Çukurca district of Hakkari.The Press Office of People's Defence Forces (HPG) shared the following information on the action:

>"Martyr Delal Air Defense Forces bombed the Çelê (Çukurca) battalion at 08:45 on April 23, as part of the Dem Dema Azadiye (Time for Freedom) campaign. The targets were struck effectively and the action was concluded successfully.”

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>"The Ideal Male Living space"
>"The Average r/RedScarePod Couple"
>"The Ideal r/RedScarePod Couple"
>"The Ideal Average r/RedScarePod Couple living space"
>Shilling for an Unironic New Age candidate who called Vaccine Mandates Orwellian
>Literally just a screenshot of of a tweet
>Literally just a fucking picture of someones unrelated Artwork
>ChristCuck Worship
>Unironically believing “coastal elites” with grad degrees on twitter are the most spiteful people out there
>Literally just a Fucking screenshot of a Fucking Apartment Building
>"i Literally Just hate Liberals, there's nothing else to my politics"
>"Whooite Man Oppressed"
>Literally Just a Junkie Lifestyle Sub that happens to like Bernie Sanders

…FUCK I'm glad i deleted my Reddit account.
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The more I read about crypto the more I realize that it still operates under the LTV. You have people working on developing a shit ton of apps, writting blogs and shilling their own coins, and while a crypto coin has no use value, it is a valuable commodity among these people who are just engaging in a very degenerate form of betting.

Why do people believe cryptocurrencies proves the LTV wrong?
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Why do you work a job, Anons? Is your life in 9-5 shifts really worth the bother?
Why play by the rules when they are so laughably stacked against you? Why do you not take what you need to live in your country though whatever criminal means you need to?
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Reminder that you can (and should) buy your books from a second hand library instead of from Amazon. It's ridiculously cheap and at least you're not giving your euros to Amazon and shit.
Just got this, "the fear of freedom" by Erich Fromm for 2€, and these libraries are everywhere. If you find one, use it to your hearts content.
A friend of mine has built his marxist library with only these second hand books (not joking btw)
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Noname tweets bringing out some weird attitude

& it's worrying me. Can anyone tell me what the fuck is going on here?
This person is saying that all proles benefit from the destruction of the ruling class, but not all benefit from direct dominion over land. Are they telling white/white passing and possibly other proles to rent from BIPOC after seizing them means?
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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general

A general thread for all China related discussion.

Original threads:
leftypol.org archives:
bunekrchan.xya archives:
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In the past few days I've seen more people posting with this flag. You better justify your little meme ideology right now, because it doesn't look like it has much meaning. How do Anarcho-Transhumanists wish to organize society? How does the state look like and function? How does the economy work? What's the underpinning philosophy? Or is it just a wishful "le I never asked for this Adam Jensen" Deus Ex larp?
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/crisis/ General

💰️DOW/Market Watch Thread💰️
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.
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What's the matter with Poland?

why are they so anti communist?
I don't get it.
It's like a clinical condition. Out of all the ex iron courtain and ex soviet union they are the most rabidly anti comminist.
What's the dialectical explanation?
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Why are American pigs so bad?

I know there are other cop related threads up but this one has a more targeted question. Why are American cops among the most brutal? Every day you see a new video of them pile driving an elderly woman into the ground or unloading clips into a black man or snapping a mentally disabled person’s arm. In almost no other part of the world, and certainly not in rich countries, are the police this violent or imperious.

I’m American and nearly everyone I know has been harassed or hounded by the police at one point or another. They typically do not view citizens as a group to protect but as an alien, otherized population to be monitored and intimidated. Even myself, a white male who is mild-mannered and rarely a troublemaker, have faced such treatment by police.

Now I will attempt to answer my own question.

My personal pet theory is that it is no coincidence that America is the epicenter of both world capitalism and police brutality. As Adam Smith of all people pointed out police exist to defend property, particularly private property, and the propertied class. There is a lot of that to protect and serve in America, and America has a large, mostly black and brown though not exclusively, marginalized and disenfranchised underclass that must be disciplined and regulated. America's large and unpropertied underclass must be kept off the lawn of capital.

Racism in one form of another is a contributing factor, and the idea that police function in part to enforce “internal colonies” of black and brown “reserved unemployed” who shut off from participating in the larger society is an appealing theory. But this cannot be the whole explanation because the brutality extends all but the wealthy.

America also uses its prison system as a form of modern slavery, extracting dirt cheap labor from inmates or legalizing for profit prisons that by their very design must seek to keep growing the prisoner population.

Another possibility is that American cops must deal with a distinctly difficult citizenry, because something in the American mental constitution is adamantly resistant to authority. Yet in a manner of speaking this is just a way to blame the victim.

Those who are attracted to unjustified power and authority tend to have sociopathic tendencies, but this should apply to all cops across the world. Only in America is regular brutalization acceptable and thus it attracts the type of psycho who enjoys that line of work. As America is in a general downtrend, authoritarian means to discipline society gain in strength. However despite the above analysis I have yet to come up with what I see as a decisive explanation. Thoughts?
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Rampant Wall Street speculation: The fever chart of a terminally diseased system
>The phenomenal rise of the cryptocurrency Dogecoin, which has risen 11,000 percent since the start of the year, is the expression of a seemingly new principle in the world of speculation—the more intrinsically worthless a so-called “asset” the faster its rise.


Always a thrill to read Mr.Beams's articles.
The rampant orgy of speculation fueled by the ultra loose Monetary policy measures of the Fed ever since March of 2020 not only further increased the wealth and income inequality gap, but has created a very dangerous bubble on all asset classes. Add to that these excess asset valuations are raising the price of basic commodities as well, and this is creating inflationary pressures across the board. Normally as the author pointed out tightening should have happened already, but under conditions of massive built-up of debt any slight increase of rates would bring this entire house of cards down. So as we can see this gigantic speculative bubble is destined to collapse, and once it does it would have catastrophic effects on the real economy. In the end it is up to the working class to put an end to this terminal disease called Capitalism that continues to suck the life of the living labor. Now more then ever humanity deserves an alternative society one that meets the social needs of the society rather then needs of the existing Oligarchy.
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I find myself in confusion rather than anger

Throughout my life living ghetto I came to form feelings of confusion at criminal culture and society as a whole. Most criminals choose to engage in criminal activity yet despise integration into society rather than to say that their socioeconomic upbringing dictates their future throughout their whole lives, I've seen Mexican and black gang members(and on 1 instance a group of single mothered asian thugs)prey and harass youth who ignore or reject gang life and the people who push said gang culture on youth I've observed to being less angry under the idea that they're "acting white" but more frustrated with the concept that those kids arent trying to actively destroy their communities. To compound my feelings of confusion I've also come to realize that it is actually alot easier for your average criminal to simply choose not to engage in violent activity and risk nothing even if they choose to not participate in society than spend years coordinating attacks, learning to use weapons and tools, risking their health in shootouts and their futures by getting themselves incarcerated while spending god knows how much on consumerism and equipment. I dont understand criminals nor do I understand criminal culture nor the purpose of it but why could I know I have an iq of 82 and live around white trash and spics, do you know anon?
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Why did (almost) everyone hate Trump so much?

I think it's pretty uncontroversial to say that, in the mind of the average American liberal, Donald Trump is basically the worst person since Hitler. But it wasn't just my libtard parents who felt that way; everyone from liberal politicians (and even some conservative ones like Bush and McCain) to the mainstream media to the FBI had it out for him. The question is: Why? Obviously, we as communists recognize Trump as a bourgeois, imperialist, reactionary force, but that can't be why he generated so much seething (since the aforementioned "establishment" groups have been happy to cheer on other bourgeois, imperialist, reactionary politicians). So what was different about the orange man? I've seen a few theories, but I haven't been completely persuaded by any of them.

>He was too rude

This argument is basically that the ruling class likes to maintain a decorous appearance to establish its legitimacy, and Trump blew that appearance apart with his wild comments (especially on Twitter). However, I just don't feel like a lack of decorum can explain the total shitstorm around him.

>He wasn't imperialist enough for them

People who say this point out that Trump didn't start any new wars, unlike the last few presidents, and that he was (compared to other American politicians) friendly with Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un, and they therefore argue that he didn't satisfy the imperialist aims of the ruling class. However, this ignores that he continued all the wars the US was already involved in and raised tensions with Iran, Venezuela, and China. Trump was far from a non-imperialist; just look at the people he surrounded himself with (Pompeo, Bolton, etc.).

>He was too unpredictable

This is, I think, a better version of the previous argument. Trump often wildly vacillated on assorted policies. This might make the ruling class see him as too unpredictable and uncontrollable. However, at the end of the day, as I said above, Trump was still a bourgeois imperialist.

>It was just theater

Basically, this argument says that all the establishment outrage about Trump was just a way to keep the masses distracted. But if that's the case, why Trump? And why do they seem so relieved now that Biden's in office?

>He put kids in cages (or whatever other bad thing he did that week)

So did Obama, and Biden is continuing the policies, but liberals (and the media, etc.) are happy with them.

>There was a split in the ruling class between an anti-Russia faction and an anti-China faction

This is, in my opinion, the most interesting explanation. Clinton was clearly much more hawkish on Russia than Trump was, whereas for Trump, China was public enemy #1. If most of the ruling class initially agreed with Clinton that Russia was the bigger threat, they might seethe over Trump prioritizing China as an enemy. However, it's become clear to pretty much everyone that the ruling class no longer cares as much about Russia, and Biden portrayed himself as even more anti-China than Trump. So was that just an initial miscalculation that's been corrected? I'm not sure.

Any thoughts on this matter would be appreciated. It's something I've been wondering for a few years now.
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Was Napoleon basically the Stalin of his era?

This isn't a thread to shit on Stalin, quite the opposite. But rather was Napoleon simply the figurehead of a revolution with values that were over 100 years prior. With people at the time who were seriously claiming to be the inheritors of the Roman Empire (Holy Roman Empire and Russia) was his claim at being Emperor that outlandish?
I might be simply a retard and not know about about the man however. As a glance everything he did seemed reasonable for the time however.
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Now that the dust has finally settled, was Perestroika a good idea?
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Climate Change General

We already had a thread like this before. Some great informative posts were made, but it got lost a while ago. Making a new thread, since this is an important topic.

Informative sources
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What country do you think looks most hopeful for communism right now?

What country is most likely to have a communist revolution, or a great victory of a working class movement, or otherwise to go in a positive direction for world communism. Personally, I think India and Mexico are too good candidates. They both have a lot of people, growing industry, and high levels of class consciousness. The Communist Party of India is already very successful I believe. A communist India would be tremendous for world communism for a lot of reasons, given that India is growing in power and prestige, and a huge part of the world population lives there.

What do you think? And what about your own country? What are its prospects? What about international affairs, like in regions or continental unions?

Pic unrelated
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What is the materialist explanation as to why most of the most monstrous figures in human history were men? Is there anything in particular driving men to be this way? Is there something in particular stopping women from reaching such notoriously criminal heights as men?
It does seem bizarre to me that when you name off the ten most evil people in world history odds are there actually won’t be a woman in the list.
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>your face when you believe that the revolution will win in Poland, Germany or England but in the end your vanguard is Russia - main policeman of Europe
Maybe all is not lost and the United States has a chance to become a communist state?
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Why does mainstream culture jerk off programmers so hard? Every mainstream outlet, politician, corporation, exalts being a programmer over almost everything else (and STEM generally)?

Liberals are even more pro programmer than conservatives while /pol/tards claim to love stem to BTFO the sjw majors, liberals say moar women in STEM.

what the fuck is up with this? It's not like the west is equivalent to developing countries which actually do need more technical people to build them up, everythings already fucking built how many engineers do you even need?
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Welp edition
Live Updates: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Global Tracker: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
The mod team asks you to please limit all covid discourse outside the mainstream media (vaccine skepticism, mask non-compliance, etc..) to this thread
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Colombia Protest Thread

Ongoing protests in colombia, things seem to be getting extremely violent.

Right-wing deathsquads in the streets:
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Taxing Monero

How could Monero holdings and transactions be taxed? Transaction recipients and amounts are encrypted, senders are obfuscated using ring signatures. Even a state like China could not stop people from connecting to Monero nodes and making transactions, because there isn't a fixed set of IP addresses running Monero nodes, and stuff like VPNs and Tor exist.
It seems to me that Monero is mostly used by people buying and selling drugs online and by nazis for donations, so in the event of a revolution those people could hide their cash. If they get killed and nobody knows the private key for their wallet the money literally disappears. If they correctly set up a dead man switch that automatically sends all their money (through a transaction or by sending the private key) to their heirs it would be impossible to know who received it.
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Why is everyone leaving California? Right wingers say that it's cause democrats are retarded but I think it has more to do with it the rise of remote work letting people with bay area salaries live in LCOL areas leading to an exodus. This is compounded by the fact that Denver is exploding which is a democratic city. That said I don't know shit about California politics and democrats are retarded so is there something I'm missing?
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Democratic Republic of Afghanistan

Give me your redpills, resources, books on Socialist Afgahnistan. From what I've seen so far, this was one of the biggest shitshows in communist history:
>KGB kills afghan communist leader Amin
>US and China supports islamic rebels againt the Sovjets

WTF was going on there??
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I made a thread on the shithole that is Kohlchan int.

It's a board full of /pol/tards and pedos. The two usually go together lol. I made them a special thread in anticipation for the weekend when we can celebrate the 76th anniversary of the victory against fascism.


It would be good to have a little fun there this weekend, wouldn't it he-he-he.
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3000 IP's

Congratulations Leftypol.org for achieving 3000 unique IP's a week, may you live long and your Quantity and Quality both increase!

There was a sudden sharp increase in posters for some reason, I don't know whether that was because of the article or healing the split.
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/log/ Lefty Org General - Uncle Gus Edition

Feel like shit, just want him back lads.

Hello again everyone. I'm CPUSA Anon. You might remember me from bunkerchan. Welcome back to /log/! A place for discussion of Socialist organizations the world over. Feel free to ask questions, talk about your experiences, and share news about exciting goings-on in your orgs!

<Now for some general news.

Run Comrade Run! CP Gets Ready to Flex its Election Muscles!
>CPUSA is re-entering the world of electoral politics. American comrades can expect to see CPUSA on the ballot more and more.

SPECIAL BULLETIN; International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties
>Available in 3 languages, provides statements/documents from Communist Parties all over the world.

IWOC: A Union for Prisoners
>Wobblies be wobblin' in prison.

The New Cold War, A Communist Party of Canada Presentation
>Maple Syrup Comrades being the most reasonable voice in the room again.

CPGB Running a lot more candidates.
>Guilty of growing larger without a loisence, the CPGB is trying to rescue Britain from the thousand year Tory reich.

Unsere Zeit
>I don't speak Germanese. Yes I know that's the only way to read the Das Kapital manga.

Defend Kshama Sawant
>Amazon seethes because it can't get a Trot out of office. Defend Kshama!

And that's the news I could find. If y'all got info you'd like to share, orgs you'd like to promote, or just want to shoot the shit, this is the thread to do it!

Solidarity with all workers!
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Austin May Day rally - check it out!


Imagine the day you'd see this shit going down in any major US city, let alone Austin. Let's get some appreciation going for the revolutionary masses!
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Is the LTV even necessary to demonstrating Labor's right to the Earth?

I know the LTV is an important part of Marx's theory of exploitation and demonstrating the theft of surplus value by the capitalist, but is it necessary for most people to accept labor's right to the world? It seems like most people were swayed by the realization that labor is this kind of ultimate force that nothing can be created without and since they are laborers they hold a technical monopoly over it.

Kinda manifests in the way old wobblies used to talk about it "you work, they don't", it seems like when people understand that products and services can't be magic'd into being, they become more amiable to lefty ideologies. As opposed to somebody stumbling across an article on the LTV and cooming or having a bookslug spout a bunch of gibberish at them, it seems like this is the more effective form of argumentation. I'm not refuting LTV or denying it's academic importance, but can't you use the essence of the formula without having to engage in the economic scruples, which most people don't really have the patience for?
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why the fuck did so many anti-colonial types in the 1920s and 30s collaborate with the axis powers what was their reasoning ?
inb4 they weren't really the true colonial types
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On /pol/tards,Deradicalization and debate

So it seems the raids triggered by the Do$$lars Foreign policy article are coming to an end and most of the /Pol/tards are self-deporting from this site. I think the question of whether debates are any good should be analysed.

At first it appeared to me that debates are actually useless, however An anon made a remark which made me re-examine my belief in that fact. The thing is that in every debate the /pol/yps were completely routed and had to resort to to claiming the Sources were Jewish. Okay you say, but they were not convinced so it's just a waste of time and energy.

<But the debates are not to convince the debatees but the audience.

>About ~20 debate threads were made

>However we saw an increase of around 200-300 IP's

Most of the /Pol/tards were simply watching the proceedings, and since a person who does not post is probably less ideologically committed, it means we probably planted some doubt in quite a few of their minds.

I would also like to draw attention to the fact that the leftover /pol/yps are engaging in good faith with us, and are not intransigent as the posters during their height. Who knows how many /Pol/yps seeing their arguments being BTFO'd have become more curious about Socialism.
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Russian Thread

Any of us still left? Come share in the sadness.
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what conspiracies do you guys believe in, would you call yourself a conspiracy theorist also what do guys think of the trends of conspiracy theories that seemed to be prevalent in the 90s and 2000s ?
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==Hilo general Latinoamérica--LatAm general thread==

Considerando la gran cantidad de habla que se ha generado de paises como Brasil, Venezeula, Bolivia, etc (y la ausencia de un hilo como este) he decidido hacer esto. En lo que se pobla de noticias, tópicos y otras cosas esto puede s er un AMA y tengo excusa para usar mi grado en historia puertorriqueña, caribeña y americana en buen uso. Tambien consideren esto un refugio para hablar español

Considering all the talk theres been about countries like Bolivia, Venezuela, Brazil, etc (and having no LatAm general thread in the frist place) I´ve decided to take the inciative and make one. While other topics get added and fill the thread consider this a sort of AMA where I can use my bachellors degree in puertorrican, caribbean, and american (the hemisphere) history.
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woke CIA

Guys, I think I just discovered the worst thing ever. The CIA is getting woke. Now they aren't just for mormons or anglo white guys who went to Yale/Harvard, they're for neoliberal latina girlbosses who #leanin while plotting coups.

Is this the future? will all imperialism be wokewashed in the future? If so I might have to kill myself
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Liberation Theology

Since most of the ideologies (even rightoid ideologies) have their own threads, how about we have a thread for one of our lesser known flags, Christian Anarchism/Communism. Not many people know this, but Christ/the Buddha was effectively one of the first anarchists ever since the creation of class hierarchies cast mankind out of pre-fall communism and into the fallen world of class society. As the deceiver of mankind, destroyer of the world, oppressor of humanity, and consumer of life, Capital reveals itself as the force known as Satan, whose personification appears currently as the American Empire and the world order it reigns over. As communists and anarchists fight for liberation and life, they are clearly bound in a holy struggle to save humanity’s soul, which is also why prior to the postmodern anti-thought communists were willing to die for what they believe in.

So let’s discuss liberation theology
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Beardtube growing

Post links to good and classpilled left wing youtube, podcasts, etc. no radlibs, grifters, and breadtube liberals
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/mtw/ - Maoism Third Worldism general

This is a thread to discuss Maoism Third Worldism, the only form of socialism that recognizes that the First World is hopelessly mired in reaction and that revolution can therefore only come from the Third World. Question: When did you first realize that Maoism Third Worldism is correct?
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What did CPUSA mean by this?
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I hate the government
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Why do liberals insist that the Holocaust was the greatest crime in human history?

>Bring up European/American extermination of indigenous populaces of the Americas
>Bring up the genocidal Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade and murderous conquest of Africa in the 19th Century
>Mention starvation and conquest of the Irish by the British
>Mention starvation and conquest of the Indians by the British (100+ million dead)
>Mention the Nazis equally if not MORE barbaric crimes against the Soviet people in general, who they planned to totally annihilate (inspired by America, of course)
>Mention slaves in San Domingue/Haiti having a life expectancy of only five years
<Wtf u r a antisemite!
Why do they do this? Is it to keep up the myth that the Western Allies were somehow not as morally corrupt and despicable as the Nazis themselves?
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An American man who has been working his whole life and is on his final years before his inevitable death is currently being forced to pay dozens of thousands of dollars to recieve aid for something even people in the 3rd world can recieve proper treatment for. To make things worse his wealth he has given towards the us economy has either been taxed away or stolen by major companies meaning he doesnt have the resources much less the time to build the wealth needed to escape his dire situation all while major medical corporations whom alleviate his problems get billions in tax payer handouts.
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/leftybritpol/ - Summer of Discontent edition

Watching the people get lairy
It's not very pretty I tell thee
Walking through town is quite scary
It's not very sensible either
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Why isn‘t China actively helping socialist organizations abroad if they care so much about establishing socialism? Aren‘t they going down the path of socialism in one country again? Why isn‘t China supporting socialist organization in all countries to make them take leadership?
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/nordpol/ - Nordic General - Skåneutgåvan

Thread for all things Nordic. Recommended languages: Finnish, Scandinavian and English.
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What is it with the online far right and their fascination with gore?

I remember when I used to browse /pol/ there would be daily gore threads with the most vile sentiment. Most vile because no longer were anons shitposting about uyghurs and other minorities in the abstract, now you had gory imagery that was the culmination of their fantasies. Now you had human beings being stripped of their humanity right before your eyes. A far right murder simulation if you will. Chinese workers dying in work accidents, Mexican cartel executions, worldwide police thuggery… It was the kind of stuff that would make even the most milquetoast leftist want to bring back gulags. Websites dedicated to gore too, such as Liveleak, hosted a far right audience judging from the comments sections. This is clearly something that interests a certain reactionary part of the internet populace… Why is that?
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Current communist music

In this thread post communist music that have been made in the last year.
Cuba still makes communist songs, I present to you "SOBERANA, LA CUBANA": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHvitAwAD2w
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Extinction Rebellion & the green movements

Is Extinction Rebellion in any way salvagable?
If not, how should the green movements carry themselves forward? I observe that Extinction Rebellion got a lot of attention and membership, which is good, I do wonder if that can be replicated without playing into the downsides of the organization and especially its almost exclusively liberal tactics.
Thoughts on a green mass movement going forward? I think this would be our last shot at preventing climate apocalypse, which I'm a bit blackpilled on the prospect of humanity actually achieving but worth trying nonetheless.
Are there green or ecologist etc. movements existent in your country which you think have the right idea already? If not, what would such a group look like?
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What does leftypol think of Michel Foucault?

I haven't read any of his work, but he seems to have been one of the more important leftist intellectuals of the second half of the 20th century. Considering his importance, I find it rather odd that leftypol never seems to talk about him.

What are your thoughts?
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An Age of Discord

In 2010 A paper was published which predicted widespread unrest in western Europe and the USA, 10 years later it was vindicated. So what exactly were they doing? and why am I telling you this? Let's find out.

First Let's have a look at the graph's of Temporal trends in anti-government protests and then that of riots respectively. One will notice that what the report predicted was correct mass unrest and societal instability has risen dramatically in the western world.

So what are they doing?
The report is based on a field called Clio dynamics which examines societal instability using four factors.
>Mass mobilization potential:When the supply of labour exceeds its demand, the price of labour decreases,
depressing the living standards for the majority of population, thus leading to popular immiseration and growing mass-mobilization potential, but creating
favourable economic conditions for the elites.
>Intra-elite competition:Favorable economic conjuncture for the elites results in increasing numbers of elites
and elite aspirants, as well as runaway growth of elite consumption levels. Elite overproduction results when elite numbers and appetites exceed the ability of the
society to sustain them, leading to spiraling intraelite competition and conflict.
>State fragility:A fiscal crisis reduces the state’s control of the coercive apparatus (police and army). The state’s legitimacy crisis undermines the willingness of the elites and the population to defend state institutions against the assault by radical groups.
>External factors:Whereas the first three mechanisms are internal, societal stability is also affected by
external factors: geopolitical (e.g., foreign support for the opposition), geo-economic (shifting prices of international commodities), and geo-cultural (a successful
revolution in a culturally similar country).

Why is it important for Us?
Knowledge of this field will allow the burgeoning socialist movements to understand their potential support base and allow them to take advantage of the increasingly volatile situation.Also to understand the support base of Far-righters.
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The Trial of Derek Chauvin and the killing of George Floyd

Today is the first day of the Trial. It begins at 9am CST.

Jury Selection took 12 days. 12/12 Jurors selected. (7 women, 5 men) 3/3 Alternate Jurors Selected. (2 women, 1 man)

131 Potential Jurors were reviewed. Some dismissed before being reviewed in court. Many reviewed in court. On March 17th, 2 other previously selected jurors were dismissed due to settlement news.

Supreme Court has allowed conviction for BOTH 2nd and 3rd degree murder. Also a conviction for 2nd degree Manslaughter is on the table.

Judge blocked motions from the defense on delays or relocation. Also ruled in favor of the state on a previous arrest in May 2019.

Floyd Family was given a settlement of 27 million dollars which will be paid by the taxpayers of Minneapolis.

The male alternative juror is the 15th juror. If all of the 14 previous jurors show up? Then he will be dismissed (He's pro-cop but passed for for cause.) If not? He's an alternate.

Official Swearing In and Opening Statements is planned for Day 1.

I will be hosting the trial daily until the verdict is read.

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Donbass War General 4, Who will cuck out?

>Military build-up in the Donbass on both sides continues
>A gorrillion ceasefire violations since that started
>Still neither side started an offensive, but keep lightly shelling eachother

Is war truly on the horizon in the East? Or is this just nothingburger sabre-rattling?
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Anarchism General 2.0 - Anprim Edition

Thread for the discussion of Anarchism.

Old one is full (>>53004)

Foundational texts:
>Alexander Berkman, ABCs of Anarchist-Communism
>Peter Kropotkin, Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution
>Errico Malatesta, Anarchism and Organization

Contemporary theory:
>Tiqqun, This Is Not a Program
>Anonymous, Desert

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CPUSA 2045

Can anyone explain the white genocide to me?
If whites are the master race why do they look so sloppy?
You see 19-20 year olds with "kekistan" t shirts or nazi tattoos that look like they were born with alcohol fetal syndrome.
All goopy skin and looking like the only thing that they lifted recently was a can of pringles.
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The shinning Path

Redpill me about this group
>Why the USSR never supported despite being a movement that could have changed the socio-political situation for comunism?
>why no one seems to care about them despite being more important and powerful(at least in their era) than FARC?
>why leftists seem to ignore them despite being succesful?
>why china abandoned them?
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Did we do it anons did we finally mange bully Joe Biden to the left? Was vaush right and electoralism was the way to go all along? Is the neolib to Maoist pipeline actually real guys?
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bottom text

Why is it so hard to believe that many CIA members/politicians are normal people like the rest of us and, just like the rest of us, use social media and have unironic beliefs

If the CIA supports socially liberal ideas like LGBT, maybe what you see is what you get. They're are many fags that apart of the CIA, army and govt. So no, they aren't "co opting" anything. They unironically support LGBT

They don't have to cater to you because you are not powerful and catering isn't profitable
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Pfizer announces windfall profits as low-income countries denied vaccines
>The drug maker’s windfall profits are inseparable from the US government’s refusal to share the rights to produce vaccines.


The extreme inequality of vaccine distribution has become a discernible fact in this ongoing pandemic. Based on this observation the ruling circles are using "intellectual property" in order to safeguard the profit interests of Big Pharma Corporations. This is regardless of the millions of death this may cause around the world. For this reason the existing Capitalist Social order is not compatible with the basic needs of humanity.
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Oh the irony

Look at this irony. I cannot imagine seeing something more ironi as this. I think anger will come foward after seeing this image. I believe that this image will shock u. Good day to u.
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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism

A grande richiesta e dopo un'inutile e penosa scissione, rieccoci.
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Can someone explain to me what the h*ck is a Trotskyist? I see it used whenever someone wants to slander someone else, but it's never elaborated on, and it always seems to mean different thing every time.
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qlobalism question

Why some of us see globalism in good light? It is after all extension of capitalism and colonialism. Why so many comrades are tricked by capitalists? What can we do about this
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Why all philosophy theories, including dialectical materialism, are incoherent nonsense.


Peep the handbook
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New WEBM Thread - Dump your folder edition

The other one is full.

Previous thread: >>>/leftypol_archive/9920
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In the USSR, despite mustering the collective labor of 300 million people by force in a natural resource-rich empire 9 million square miles in size and a dozen countries in scope:

>Only 2% owned a color tv

>Only 4% owned a car
>The average household in the USSR was-and in the Russia Federation remains-about 50 square meters, under 200 square feet. This is less than 1/3rd the size of the apartments in Seattle, which are the smallest in the USA
>The Soviet diet was 44% carbohydrates and starch, and had 1/3rd of the animal protein of the US diet
>More doctors than the UK but had healthcare so poor the life expectancy trended downwards from the mid 60s to the mid 80s
>You could not be legally "unemployed"
>You could not easily choose your occupation or leave your occupation for another
>Being over 20 minutes late to work was a criminal offense resulting in a 25% pay cut for up to six months

Other notable facts
>41% of Germany's industrial production capacity was stolen and reassembled in Russia after the war
>26,000 engineers, scientists, aviation experts and their dependents were similarly transplanted to Russia
>Stalin admitted to Eric Johnston of the US Chamber of Commerce that two-thirds of Russia's industrial capability both during and prior to the war was due to the assistance of the United States (the remaining third being largely a Western European import)
>Fred Koch built or designed the majority of the Soviet-era oil refineries; oil and related products account for something like 60% of Russia's current day exports and 20-30% of their entire current day economy
>Stalin formally abolishing Lenin's Capital-Friendly NEP in 1928 precipitated the Soviet Famine of 1932; famine in the USSR being a recurring pattern only broken through the work of American agricultural scientist Norman Borlaug
>An informal, illegal economy, the "Second Economy" existed throughout the USSR's existence and is estimated to represent between 15-30% of the USSR's economic activity
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How can religion be replaced with a more secular and scientific alternative?

In order to answer that, we would need to answer the question
>What is Religion?
And no, I am not talking about the set of beliefs and supernatural stories that are nothing but living mythology. But an all-encompassing context.

For example, religion can be classified as proto-psychology. It developed ideas to cope with plenty of mental illnesses which gave a placebo effect of working. For some, that was all they needed.
When I was a kid, I was dealing with depression a lot. I'd have negative thoughts and memories that get stuck in my head and loop in a cycle. I'd do what any kid knew best.
I asked mom for help.

She used to tell me that these ideas come from Satan to discourage me and bring me down for my faith, and that I should pray to god to get rid of them. It worked.
Does that mean that Satan is real? And that god helped me? Was it simply "placebo" and I am cringe for mentioning that? No. No to all.

I came to learn later that this is actually a very powerful technique. Simply personalizing these negative thoughts and making them talk, sound silly, or even just walk away is a very effective method of dealing with bad thoughts. Sitting on them for a long while can actually develop into symptoms of depression and anxiety.

This gives us a hint on why, for example, atheists seem to suffer way higher with mental illness and suicide. Attributing the low percentage of mental illness and suicide in religious communities to things like "imaginary best friend", "hell", etc is childish and superficial.

Religion is the coping mechanism we developed for this mysterious nihilistic world.

The process of evolution selects what survives. It doesn't care how accurate or true the mechanisms we develop are at all.
It's an unconscious, amoral, and apathetic process.

So, what can replace religion then?
I have no idea. This thread is for ideas.
Perhaps once psychology and sociology develop into hard sciences, we would have an alternative or we would have the tools to make one.

I love the fact that we don't know. Means there is more and more to discover about the world.
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Sometimes I get so blackpilled about the idea of socialism that the idea of barbarism winning seems more likely. Part of me secretly wants to fuck off my job, take a ton of drugs, and become a doomer eco-cyberpunk writer making short stories and maybe some novels while listening to depressive electronic music.

Anyone else feel the same?
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The sentencing of former UAW President Dennis Williams and the case for rank-and-file committees
>The rise and fall of the former United Auto Workers president makes it clear the problem is not a few “bad apples,” but the entire organization.


Another clear example that shows the irreconcilable class differences between the corrupt Union bosses who are aligned with ruling class factions and workers. For this reason formation of International Workers Alliance of Rank and File Committees (IWA-RFC) would be the only effective political strategy in advancing working class interests at the global level.
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Biden's Climate Requirements

Eat the fuggin' salad! :-DDDDDD
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This is marvels new captain america

What's his weakness bunkerchan?
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Politicak Freaks

Why do narcicistic freaks exist in the most extreme points of the political espectrum
is pretty normal to have a passion,… but
people that are obsessed over politics are such freaks, from reactionaries, tankies, comunists, socialists, nazis, feminists or Qboomers
i've met a politifreak it becomes very akward to talk with them especially the authoritarian espectrum of stalinism, maoists or nazis
is like all of them have aspergers or some seirus neurotism
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Can we discuss StoneToss?

so what do you guys think of this dude, is he a good propagandist? who on the left comes close to his level? i haven't really seen any good ones from the left except for maybe spergy but he is just a stonetoss rip off
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News 5/6/21

A JUSTICE DEPARTMENT trial attorney repeatedly contacted Massachusetts Institute of Technology researchers asking, eventually under threat of subpoena, about research they had conducted on the 2019 Bolivian presidential election, according to emails obtained by The Intercept. Sent between October 2020 and January 2021, the emails point to the existence of the Justice Department inquiry and add new evidence to support Bolivian allegations that the United States was implicated in its 2019 coup.

==Duque Offers Reward for Info on "Vandals", State Terror Rises
As Colombia sees its second national strike on Wednesday, the latest events highlight the stark contrast between a government that aims to blame protesters for the social unrest by casting conspiracy theories versus the deadly police repression unveiled during the demonstrations to the rest of the world.

Athens paralyzed by striking public sector workers taking to streets to protest against new labor bill (VIDEO)
The Greek capital has been brought to a standstill as public sector workers protest against new legislation that they claim would restrict employee rights at a time when the economy is struggling to rebuild from the pandemic. Police estimated that as many as 6,500 workers gathered outside the country’s parliament building in Athens on Thursday after Greece’s main civil servants union ADEDY called a 24-hour-strike.

U.K., France deploy Navy vessels to Jersey in post-Brexit fishing feud
The U.K. and France were engaged in a naval standoff on Thursday as a long-simmering dispute over post-Brexit fishing rights escalated in the English Channel. France deployed two maritime patrol boats to the waters off the British Channel island of Jersey, its navy said, after the British Navy dispatched two of its own vessels to the area late Wednesday.

Anger at reports of UK proposals to ban Troubles-era prosecutions
Politicians in Northern Ireland have condemned reports that the UK government is to ban prosecutions of British army veterans for alleged crimes during the Troubles. Sinn Féin, the SDLP, the Alliance party and Labour accused Downing Street of betraying victims of violence and making a shameful attempt to protect security force personnel at the expense of justice.

EU invites US, Canada and Norway to enjoy ‘unhindered’ troop movements within its borders
EU foreign policy chief Josep Borrell said the move would “make EU defence more efficient and … strengthen our security” by speeding up the transfer of armies across the continent. The US has over 70,000 soldiers stationed in Europe and is currently leading nearly 30,000 allied troops in the Defender Europe 2021 military manoeuvres along Russia’s borders from the Baltic to the Black Sea.

EU seeks rapid response military force, two decades after first try
Fourteen European Union countries including Germany and France have proposed a rapid military response force that could intervene early in international crises, a senior EU official said on Wednesday, two decades after a previous attempt.

Feminism in China dates to communist revolution but today activists feel squeezed by the state
Decades after Mao said ‘women hold up half the sky’, groups seeking gender equality find the space for advocacy, discussion and protest is shrinking More highly educated Chinese women could give rise to a generation able to speak up and spark change, says professor

Sheikh Jarrah: Israel Supreme Court postpones decision on evictions
The Israeli Supreme Court postponed on Thursday its ruling on the expropriation of several Palestinian families from the occupied East Jerusalem neighbourhood of Sheikh Jarrah, amid high tensions in the city. The court said it would hold another hearing in the case on Monday 10 May.

Half of MLAs Elected to Bengal Assembly are Accused of Crimes; Over 50% Crorepatis
About half of the legislators who have won in the recently concluded Assembly elections in West Bengal and will be sworn in as legislators have criminal cases against them, showing a steep jump compared to the last Assembly elections in 2016. Besides, the average income of the legislators in the soon-to-be formed Bengal assembly stands at a whopping Rs 2.5 crores, according to a report released by the West Bengal Election Watch and Association of Democratic Reforms, a non-profit body.
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Leftist wikipedia editors have done more than majority of you ever have done online for the left.
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Labor Aristocracy

A capitalist takes $21 to pay for one hour of labor from worker A at $1/hr and one hour of labor from worker B for $20/hr. The end result is a commodity which the capitalist sells for $36, yielding a profit of $15. In this case, labor in its abstract (or ‘socially necessary’) form creates $18/hr in value (the full value of the commodity ($36), divided by the two hours which produced it), and this represents the value of labor.

In this example, worker B is paid $20 for an hour of labor power: this price of labor power is higher than the value of labor. In this case, for one hour of work worker B is able to purchase 1.11 hours of abstract labor. Consequently, worker A must work 18 hours to purchase the one hour of abstract labor. To clarify further: in this example, $17 in surplus value is exploited from worker A (the abstract value of labor ($18) minus the price of labor power paid as wages ($1)). Of this $17, $15 is kept by the capitalist and $2 is handed to worker B on top of the full value of labor. Functionally, worker B is an exploiter.
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In 2013, an employee for the defense contractor Booz Allen Hamilton named Edward Snowden revealed to the world that the National Security Agency, an intelligence agency of the United States, was using digital mass surveillance techniques on every digitally connected American citizen and indeed, adult human on planet earth. For me this was a shock. I had been raised to believe that America was the ‘home of the free’ and that our constitutional civil liberties meant that we were entitled not to be spied upon by ‘our own’ government. Surveilling your own citizens is what the ‘bad guys’ and dictators did. Yet, here was the American government doing, basically the same thing. And the reaction of the country was essentially a big fat shrug. 80% of the population didn’t give a shit. A neverending chorus of Senators and government officials made the rounds on television to condemn Snowden as a traitor. In the end, some tech companies upgraded some encryption standards, but overall nothing fundamentally changed.

In TV shows, books, movies, and other fictional stories, the struggle is often for the hero to reveal the truth, some terrible secret that the powers that be are keeping in order to maintain control. At the climax, the heroes reveal the truth to the public and the bad guys can’t handle it. (think: V for Vendetta). The senator goes to prison for corruption, the dictatorship falls, etc.

In real life, people shrug. The ‘truth teller’ is condemned as a traitor, and to the extent anyone cares, they are more angry at the person who revealed the truth than what the ugly truth itself revealed. Evil is less outrageous than daring to reveal it.

Why is this? These stories and ideas are based on a fundamentally outdated outlook in which power is contingent upon concealing the truth, like the church prosecuting Galileo, or the plantation slaveholder forbidding his slaves to learn how to read. The liberal idea is that with freedom of speech, you get enlightened and rational discourse in which people converge on a consensus or at least reasoned disagreement, in the manner of a polite, Jeffresonian “republic of letters”. Freedom of speech, we are told, is the only necessary condition of discovering the “Truth”. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

This is not how things work. Freedom of speech is a necessary precondition, but not the end all be all. In the information age, problem is not a lack of information, but an overload of information, and wrong information. “Truth” with a capital T no longer really exists. There is no Truth, just information. Truth, insomuch as it exists, is really just consensus, or “apparent” consensus. To think of information as true or false is to miss the point: information is merely a weapon to be harnessed towards defined political aims, no different than a rifle. The battle over mindspace, to create and form consensus is not a harmonious dance of rational discourse, but a war, a political struggle.

State actors, from western governments to others, can pay people to spread propaganda online. Wealth individuals and corporations can fund thinktanks and ads on social media and television to spread their points of view. Even a group of unemployed guys with a ton of spare time on their hands to spread propaganda can be dangerous, although still not anywhere close to the power of paid propaganda. The internet today is nothing but a huge battlefield between competing groups of propaganda spreaders, the same as traditional media, except the barrier to entry is far lower.

The era of speaking truth to power is over. Power doesn’t need your truth, and society doesn’t care about your ‘truth’. Power creates its own truth, empire creates its own reality. And the truth of power will overcome and supersede your truth and become more true than the truth you speak, because that truth serves the interests of power and yours does not.

This implies all the tactics of a war, from guerrilla warfare (disinformation) to full frontal assault. Those still clinging to the outdated norms of liberal discourse, where it is assumed your opponents are acting in good faith and are reasonable are living in the past. Leftists and liberals often get jebaited into engaging on these terms, where someone will say something short and wrong, and you have to respond with a bible’s worth of information with citations to ‘refute’ the wrong information, while the rightist simply uses memes and slogans they repeat over and over. This serves multiple purposes, it wears down the leftist and exhausts their mental energy, compared to the negligible amount of information the other person has to do. Second of all, it still looks like they are winning to an outsider, because they simply refuse to admit when they are wrong. You can’t lose if you simply insist of being immune to all argumentation and evidence. This often frustrates the leftist, because they are operating under that same assumption that their opponent will concede points or change their mind based on new information, or at least be forced to respond to it in some way. This is false.

Again, this has the relation to truth exactly backwards – they have conclusion which they are trying to spread by any means possible, and what is true is whatever would have to be true to make them right and you wrong. Whether thats le logic, science and rationality, Jordan Peterson’s jungian sorcery, alt-right “red pills”, laughably bad PragerU videos, or recycled Austrian-libertarianism from the 1930s. It doesn’t matter. Their supporting arguments are simply temporary excuses for justifying their feelings, beliefs, and prejudices which already exist. That which owns the left, is true.

Humans have an instinct for conformity and you can create the appearance of consensus by simply repeating a message over and over. It doesn’t matter if someone creates a debunking video or whatever, how many videos are there on the internet debunking PragerU? Yet them being wrong almost all the time doesn’t stop their videos from receiving hundreds of thousands, if not millions of views, simply because they have a fuck ton of money to produce videos, and spread them all over the internet. Eventually their amateur, unpaid critics get tired of doing what is essentially a full time job debunking paid propaganda, and get bored and move on, assuming everyone has gotten the message that PragerU is bullshit and has stopped watching. But they haven’t stopped watching. PragerU continues to produce more videos with more billionaire money and continue to spread their messages to millions more on social media. They have outlasted their critics simply by attrition, which is the problem. They ignore criticism, even if they get totally destroyed they simply ignore it. You would have to have an organization with funding or support in a similar way to PragerU, if you want to continue to debunk their lies month after month, year after year in a sustainable way.

The left needs to understand this battle and the terms of this battle. We need to figure out how to combat forces with superior ‘weaponry’, in this case huge amounts of cash or in the case of the far right, internet hiveminds where they spam memes at each other.

There are a few ways I can see to do this:

1. Conserve energy

To be sustainable in the long run, you need to not get bogged down in detailed arguments. If someone comes to a leftwing space with genuine good faith interest in learning, you can provide them with information. But avoid getting bogged down in detailed arguments, especially when they devolve into conspiracy theories. Good mods in online spaces help with this by locking/anchoring obvious bait posts but too often the left still gets baited into wasting 500+ paragraph long responses to bait posts.

2. Waste your opponent’s energies

The sad truth is that lots of people on the right are too far gone. Instead of trying to convince them, you need to use their own tactics on them. Leftists need to go into their spaces and disrupt their hivemind. Look at how quickly so many on the right just got flustered when the Bernie bros memed on /pol/ during the 2020 primary. Not only is ‘raiding’ not bad, it should be done a hell of a lot more, to the point of all out warfare.

3. Memes

Instead of writing out long ass responses to every right wing talking point, just make memes. Every time a right winger uses a common argument, respond to it with a meme. It doesn’t matter if the meme is a gross simplification or mocking in tone, or shittily drawn with MS Paint, or even just straight up wrong or conspiratorial. Although to the extent possible it should be theoretically accurate, if the tradeoff is between nuance and a cogent, short, memetic message. Think more the vuvuzela meme, and less the standard leftypol wall of text. Remember the point is to overwhelm your opponent, not through intellectually convincing them, but simply by bludgeoning them over the head with overwhelming repetition, like one of those missiles that breaks up into tons of multiple smaller missiles before it hits the ground. Once you see other leftists using a meme, just save it and spam it over and over, maybe with some small modification. Memes should be short and quippy. A simple slogan that can be drilled into people’s head over and over. Think: the old christian meme of ‘Adam and eve not Adam and Steve’.Yes it is childish and puerile. But it is effective in that it expresses the idea in a concise way. Keep the message simple. This is why intersectionality fails, because it’s too complicated: it talks about race, class, gender, religion, etc. That’s too complicated, it’s too much information for people to keep in their head. A good slogan: Occupy wall street’s “the 99% vs the 1%”. Its simple and expresses class in a way which is memorable. You want to spam the meme so hard that even your opponents concede the frame of the argument and has to talk about it on your terms. The ‘porky’ meme is one of the best things leftypol ever created here, since it puts a simple face and gives a single ugly persona to capital and capitalism.

4. Never admit you are wrong, on anything

Never admit defeat. Your opponent is always wrong. No matter what arguments they bring, if you can’t find a way refute them within 2-3 sentences, just reject them as western/capitalist propaganda or ignore them. IMPORTANT: don’t expend a huge amount of energy on this writing out some detailed refutation. That is wasting your energy which is the opposite of the point. Just write short quippy responses (2-3 sentences max ideally), or if all else fails go back to spamming memes.

5. Use coordination.

Coordinate your raids with other groups of leftists, 2-3 per group minimum, the more the better. Don’t use leftypol for this, but some third party chat app which is private. You don’t want the people who are getting raided to trace it back to you, because that allows them more mental space to dismiss you easily. If the source of the raid is concealed, you can gaslight them into paranoia (even more than usual) and cause them to think the community is turning against them organically.

6. Use force multipliers

The left is a far smaller group online than the right. You need to use bots to make up the difference. Yes I know this is controversial but everyone else is doing it. The far right does it. Governments do it. Clinton did it. Yes, I am literally advocating for the more tech saavy of you to write markov python bots and spam leftist mantras all over the internet, or if you can’t do that, create an additional account somewhere like youtube and go liking left wing videos for the algorithm and left wing comments under videos, and also mass dislike right wing vids/mass like left wing vids. Go learn to write a twitter bot.

7. Pivot to newer platforms

The next generation, the next battlefield will not be traditional platforms like reddit, twitter, facebook. It will be on platforms like instagram, tiktok, snapchat, and to a certain extent youtube. The advantage of these platforms is that they are video/picture oriented so even better suited to a meme format than even chans. After all, if reddit is a modern version of a 2000s phpbb forum, instagram is the modern version of a booru or image archive (but with more hot girl selfies on the beach instead of anime memes). Avoid twitter to the extent possible because it’s already got a disproportionate amount of leftists and you are just preaching to the choir to an extent.
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It's Your Birthday Today (Hooray)

Great teacher, birthday fun! On May 5, 1818, Karl Marx was born in the German town of Trier. But Marx belongs to no single nation and not only to the past – he also belongs to the future. Post your fun birthday wishes and pics of flower baskets to honor Marx, one of my personal favorite guys
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Man, the pandemic and lockdown really showed that boomers don't give a fuck about the younger generation. Boomer politicians and national media told younger people to show solidarity with the elderly. In the end, millenials and zoomers were punished with scorn or ignorance while boomer politicians and their generation get vaccines and can live a normal life again. We can't even go outside in the evening without risking to pay a fine. I feel like I exist only to fund the retirement of boomers, while the retirement age for our generation will soon be beyond 70. I feel like everything turns to shit.
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What's his deal?

From what I've read, he criticizes hegel pretty harshly for his supposed "rash" decision making.

How can someone conclude that heideggerian thinking could be useful to Marxism or at all?
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On internet socialist presence and it's dynamics

How important is Internet presence, and how does it relate to material politics?

From looking at the relationship between Internet politics and real life politics, we realise that both are closely influenced by each other, however the casual relationship is more tilted in favour on the material side. What I mean by this is that material politics are the base on which the superstructure of Internet politics are built, we can see this in the fact that.

>Trump was not popularised due to the alt-right, but Trump certainly popularised the alt-right.

>Bernie was not carried to anyway by democratic socialists but he did increase the popularity of socialism.

Then what is the internet useful for in material politics? In the beginning of 2016 the Alt-right had a much bigger had more effective presence on the internet, why? It was because the Alt-right had an presence on the internet since 2010 and had accumulated marginal gains, this made it easier for them to take advantage of the material political landscape, as opposed to the internet Left. The Internet is useful for spreading arguments,ideas and discussions and for softening up(Normalizing) radical ideas.

But the Internet is bad at one thing, creating dedicated movements for social change, i.e high-risk or high intensity activism.

>This is the second crucial distinction between traditional activism and its online variant: social media are not about this kind of hierarchical organization. Facebook and the like are tools for building networks, which are the opposite, in structure and character, of hierarchies. Unlike hierarchies, with their rules and procedures, networks aren’t controlled by a single central authority.

>In Germany in the nineteen-seventies, they go on, “the far more unified and successful left-wing terrorists tended to organize hierarchically, with professional management and clear divisions of labor. They were concentrated geographically in universities, where they could establish central leadership, trust, and camaraderie through regular, face-to-face meetings.” They seldom betrayed their comrades in arms during police interrogations. Their counterparts on the right were organized as decentralized networks, and had no such discipline. These groups were regularly infiltrated, and members, once arrested, easily gave up their comrades. Similarly, Al Qaeda was most dangerous when it was a unified hierarchy. Now that it has dissipated into a network, it has proved far less effective.

This is why the Alt-right failed, they were unable to set up a proper on the ground operation their activism was mostly shitposting on the webs or organizing in cells for fear of the feds. This also why the capitol riot failed, since they had no Organization.

TLDR; The Internet is good at spreading ideas and radicalising people but bad at organizing political movements for lasting change, that is also why joining Communist parties is important

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Whould subcultures return?

With the rise of the internet young kids mostly waste their life on the internet ,back in the day we had working class kids calling themselves metalheads,punks,skins,rockbillies,freaks,rockers,rudeboys,hiphopers etc
This groups often took part in direct actions and view themselves as enemies of the system .
So how are we going to take the grillpill and touch grass?
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It seems internet egoists miss the point of Stirner. Even worse, they use Stirner to justify their retarded spooks, pic related.

We've seen it with edgy egoist 4channers, with the resident "egoist" incel, and now with this genius in the burgerkreig thread.

Is Egoism just cynical individualist liberalism/american-libertarianism?

How can we despook them if they have already read Stirner and it went over their head?
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Take the JUST Pill

Reject matrimony, embrace divorce.

>Cascade Investment, a holding company Bill Gates created with the proceeds of Microsoft Corp. stock sales and dividends, transferred securities worth more than $1.8 billion to Melinda French Gates, a day after the pair announced their divorce after 27 years of marriage.

>Melinda Gates is now the beneficial owner of 14.1 million shares of Canadian National Railway Co. worth about $1.5 billion, according to a Securities and Exchange Commission filing dated May 3. Cascade also transferred 2.94 million shares in AutoNation Inc., worth $309 million. Through Cascade, Gates has interests in real estate, energy and hospitality as well as stakes in dozens of public companies, including Deere & Co. and Republic Services Inc. The couple are also among the largest landowners in America.

>Gates is worth $145.4 billion, according to the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.
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/QTDDTOT/ – Questions That Don't Deserve Their Own Thread

Last thread: >>983378

Why did the Soviet Union annex Moldova but not Romania, eventually at least? Might as well have gone all out and annexed all Romanian-speaking lands.
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Debunking /Pol/ race "science"

So one of the main reasons /pol/tards are so resistant to Marxist ideas is the fact that they believe in race realism and similar "scientific" ideas. I will attempt to debunk three of the most crucial race realist tenets in this thread.

a. Ethnic diversity(With the same culture even) causes societal trust to decline.
b. Blacks are genetically predisposed to commit more crimes.
c. There is a genetic IQ gap between races.

A: There are two types of diversity
-Diversity of culture and language
-Diversity of race
>It is found that diversity of race when culture and language are the same does not effect trust significantly(2% difference at most) thus proving Civic nationalists correct.

>Diversity of culture and race causes a minor but significant decline in trust, however the effect is not seen in a good economy but a bad one. Also poverty still has a greater effect on trust than even this kind of diversity.


B. Now it is true that in the USA race is a stronger predictor of criminality than poverty. However single motherhood is another factor which is stronger than race.
>Also the racial crime gap between Hispanics and whites seem to have closed" Declines in disparities were more pronounced when considering jail inmates of both sexes between 2005 and 2018 with the ratio of disparity per capita declining from 4.8 to 3.2 between blacks and non-Hispanic whites and 1.6 to 1.0 between Hispanics and non-Hispanic whites.[79] "
>Another factor is inequality which drives homicide rates.
>over a 20-year period, the American states that had the greatest inequality in visible expenditure—spending on items such as clothing, jewellery, cars, and eating out—also suffered the most from violent crime. So if you’ve got it, don’t flaunt it—especially if your neighbours don’t have it as well.

However let us look at other countries.
>In Brazil the Non-white homicide rate is double that of the white rate.
>But their poverty rate is also double that of whites.

Finally the UNDOC(UN department on drugs and crime) statistics completely dismantles this argument.
The Homicide rate of Africa as a whole is 13.5

>However if we look at poor countries without any inequality or active conflicts we see that the homicide rate is ridiculously low, Dirt poor countries like Malawi, Benin, Burkina Faso, Liberia, Sao tome and Principe, Guinea and Guinea-Bissau have rates between 1-3.

>The countries which have high homicide rates in Africa are horribly unequal like S.Africa and friends or have an active conflict going on like CAR or the DRC or Mali.

>Finally we have the middle countries with rates between 3-8? Good rates but still slightly uncomfortable, the Horn of Africa all seem to share maybe it's due to the low-intensity conflict that is there or maybe something else.


C. I've looked into this topic, and It's too complex for me to unravel, however I would like to point a few things out.

>The famous IQ map of the world I posted Is wrong.

>The famous IQ researcher Richard Lynn who made the map used the IQ of mentally retarded children in spain to come up with the numbers for E.Guinea, and many other such "mistakes"(Probably deliberate).
>Another famous IQ researcher Eysenck has had his papers retracted or accepting money from tobacco companies I think.
>But In the end this topic requires many more lines than what I'm capable of.
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This motherfucker was the literally who great grandfather of postmodernism. Why does /leftypol/ still keep worshipping him?
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News 5/5/21

City Offers Homeless One-Way Travel Ticket to Europe if They Sign Contract to Never Return
Toprak Yergu, a Basel Department of Justice spokesperson, told local newspaper 20 Minutes that homeless individuals in the city can request a travel voucher and 20 Swiss francs (USD$21.90). In return, the individuals must sign a contract vowing not to return to the country for a specified period of time.

Vaccine makers say IP waiver could hand technology to China and Russia
As industry lobbying has escalated in Washington, companies have warned in private meetings with US trade and White House officials that giving up the intellectual property rights could allow China and Russia to exploit platforms such as mRNA, which could be used for other vaccines or even therapeutics for conditions such as cancer and heart problems in the future.

5 CPI Maoist Militia Members Arrested In Bhadradri Kothagudem District
Five militia members of the CPI (Maoist) from neighboring Chhattisgarh state were arrested by a combined squad of police and CRPF personnel in Kurnapalli forest area in Bhadradri-Kothagudem district on Tuesday morning.

Two former British soldiers acquitted of murdering IRA leader Joe McCann after trial collapses due to inadmissible evidence
The accused, identified only as Soldiers A and C, have admitted firing at McCann, but claim they acted within the law. The veterans, now in their 70s, made statements to the Royal Military Police in 1972 and were interviewed by the Historical Enquiries Team – a police legacy branch – in 2010.

Germany bans a Salafist NGO
The German government has banned a Salafist non-governmental organization called Ansaar accused of "financing Islamic terrorism" under the cover of humanitarian aid. German police raided the organization’s offices across the country.

Germany Had Over 44,000 Politically Motivated Crimes in 2020
Slightly more than half of the political crimes, around 23,604, are right-wing motivated. Seehofer stressed that right-wing extremism was the "greatest threat to security in our country, because most racist crimes are committed from this spectrum." Given Germany's history, this development was "very worrying" and "deeply shameful."

Far-right could enter government after conservatives fall short of majority in Madrid
Her Popular Party (PP) won 44.7 per cent of the vote to secure 65 seats in Madrid’s 136-seat assembly, more than doubling its presence in the regional parliament. The three-party left bloc took just 58 seats. Pablo Iglesias, leader of left-wing party Podemos, who stood down as Spain’s deputy prime minister to challenge Ms Ayuso, said he would now leave politics altogether.

Clashes in Jerusalem ahead of court case on Palestinians' eviction
Thursday's hearing at Israel's Supreme Court may decide if the evictions ordered by a lower court are upheld, or if the handful of Palestinian families can appeal. Human rights campaigners say that if the Palestinians lose the court battle, it could set a precedent for dozens of other homes in the area.

Myanmar’s anti-coup government establishes the ‘People’s Defence Force’ to protect civilians from army
In a statement released on Wednesday, Myanmar’s National Unity Government, a group claiming to be the legitimate rulers of the country, said its new force aimed to protect its supporters from violence instigated by the army.

Azerbaijan accused of war crimes after execution of Armenian prisoners
The Armenian soldiers were taken as prisoners last year during the six-week war over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region, a landlocked majority-Armenian territory inside Azerbaijan. The bitter conflict saw accusations of war crimes, such as the beheading of civilians by Azeri troops.
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Soviet Wars 1917-1923(31)

A million sides, constant changes of allies, a bunch of events - sort of the First World War in the South, in the Crimea and in the Urals, the latest fleet operations against the Germans and the Entente in the Baltic, literally Syria in the Ukraine, the Red Army attacking British tanks with bayonets near Arkhangelsk, the Wild West with Basmachi in Central Asia, Latin American partisanship in Siberia, White Genghis Khan is plotting something, White Czechs are fleeing from the Red Czechs with tsarist gold, finally the fight against anti-Soviet uprisings and simply hellish gang violence.

Red, White, Green, Black, Basmachi
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Yugoslav partisan war

This issue is rarely discussed and I have many questions about it.

Is it true that between April - June 1941 communists were inactive in the antifascist resistance because of Molotov - Ribbentrop pact?

How bad was the animosity between Četnik and communist partisans?

Is it true that there were many families where father was četnik and the son communist? (or vice versa)

Is it true that for a long time communist partisans were far less relevant than četniks?

What role played anglos and amis in the yugoslav partisan war?

How popular is Nedic and his regime in todays Serbia?

Was Draža Michailovic innocent?

Also is here any yugo anon that can translate these for me?
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Vegans BTFO

Watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGG-A80Tl5g

In a nutshell the main points:
>Actually, the amount of ressources animals consume is inflated
>Animals eat mostly stuff (like for example plant husks from agricultural production, grass etc.) which are uneatable to humans and turn those into natural fertilizer and nutritious meat
>The meat climate change argument is a smoke screen against the much bigger emissions from fossil fuels and certain industries like cement production
>Food waste (a third of current production goes to waste) is a much worse problem

But please actually watch the video, since this is only my memory from watching it once.
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What do leftypol thinks about transexuals?

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Why are Hoxhaists so idiotic and dogmatic. Keep coping, the only groups doing shit in the world are Maoists, this is the era of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, ML is outdated, time to recognize Maoism as the Third Stage, and Gonzalo as the 6th head
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Is China really planning to invade Taiwan?

I keep hearing news about how China is allegedly plotting to invade Taiwan. China does have some historical claims to the island, but it seems like it would be very risky for them to try to invade them. I suspect the news could just be CIA propaganda to justify aggression towards China, but I could be wrong. That said, do you think China is planning to invade Taiwan in the not to distant future? Why or why not? Provide relevant sources, if possible.
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Organizing for Leninists

How do we organize under a Vanguard, in let's say Britain, America, or France. They can just ban it outright if we cause too much trouble. Thing is with groups like Antifa, you can't really "ban" it, because it's not a party, or a group you can "join", it's just people who dress up in black clothing and go to protests with each other. But with a Vanguard it's different, it's a party with an organizational structure, etc. So how do we organize with this?
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Banners + Theming + Favicon + Flags

Official leftypol.org embellishment project
Let's make banners, new themes and favicons for leftypol.org! Let's give this place some colors!

The resolution of the banners is 300x100.
The resolution for the favicon is 15x15.
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Will Hammer City go out like Waco or Jonestown? Don't think the Mao tier reparations will help very much!!
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What do leftypol thinks about Spanish politician Pablo Iglesias? I think he is BASED
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OC Thread 9.0

Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.

This is the place where you can find all /leftypol/ memes n' shit
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/auspol.org/ - Australia General

Thread dedicated to the discussion of Australian politics and events.

I get that since the split the number of Australians here probably went from being counted on two hands to just one, but I figured that there should be at least a thread here that we can keep bumping.
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My Socialist-Realist Critique of Marxism (using some of Marx's own premises)

I consider myself to be a socialist and greatly influenced by Marx, but I have the following critique of Marxism (or at least my interpretation of it). I'm not from /pol/, in fact I've been on /leftypol/ since the 8ch days. Here is my critique:

Marxism is correct that human history is about struggles between different groups with underlying economic motives, but it seems to ignore the fact that collectives other than class exist and that struggle between these for economic gain is a feature of history e.g. national conflict, ethnic conflict, religious conflict, etc. also exist. These cannot be ignored. Moreover, historical materialism presumes that there will come a time where there are no more conflicts between collectives and the state can be abolished. This is also a dubious claim, as as long as there are *some* people who want to expand their material wealth, people will inevitably gather into collectives (often using a state) in order to protect themselves and their interests. This is because most humans prioritise their own survival first and will thus gather into collectives in order to ensure their collective survival against an out-group. Due to resource scarcity, we can't simply let everyone have everything for free (as the lib strawman of communism goes) and instead resources have to be systematically distributed. Conflict between collectives determines this distribution of resources.

It's a bit like the tragedy of the commons. Groups can never guarantee that the resources they need to live won't be taken by other groups, so they are incentivised to come into conflict with other groups and expand their groups to make them stronger. States in the international system cannot guarantee their survival, ever. Therefore, they must maximise their power which often involves coming into conflict with (and exploiting) other states. The bourgeoisie cannot guarantee that they will have their same power tomorrow, and losing it could mean death if revolting proles decide they want to get out the guillotines. Therefore, the bourgeoisie are incentivised to maximise their power so that their survival can be guaranteed a little bit more than earlier, although it can never be completely guaranteed. This then leads the bourgeoisie to seek out new markets and new workers to exploit.

Socialism will not solve national conflict. We saw this with AES states like the Soviet Union going to war with different states like Afghanistan, Germany, Finland, whatever. The USSR, upon winning WW2, exploited East Germany by dismantling something like a third of their factories and half of East Germany's railway and using the plundered resources to help an economic boom back home. The USSR's economic exploitation of East Germany, under the ideological pretext of claiming reparations, is one of the factors that made the GDR poorer than the FRG and why east Germany is poorer than western Germany to this day.

One of the reasons the USSR fell apart was because various national/ethnic minorities could NOT take their survival for granted under Russian hegemony. The Chechens remembered how they had been treated under Stalin. It was a logical response for them to seek their own nation state.

If you want to read more about these sorts of ideas, research classical realism and neorealism (the theories of international relations) as well as philosophers/theorists like Machiavelli, Hobbes, Karl Schmitt, John Mearsheimer, Kenneth Waltz, etc.

tl;dr conflict will always exist and therefore a stateless, classless, moneyless society will never occur and conflicts that aren't fought on class lines still define history as much as conflicts between classes do.
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A Universal Truth

Political and societal change can't be achieved in a democratic society as public opinion can easily be shaped by academia and media. The human brain is wired to trust authority. Most believe in what they are taught regardless if it's the truth. That's what makes humans a flawed species.

I believe that is the case as we want to feel safe. We would feel scared, worried and terrified if we questioned everything and everyone. If we questioned the people who claim to be working for our interests. If we questioned if they're actually working to deprive us of our rights, privileges and lands. It's easier on our mental health just to accept the mainstream therefore most people do.

Unlike other scams, democracy is unique as even its victims love it. They convince themselves that it isn't a scam because they don't like the alternative. They don't want to risk their lives to protect the rights of themselves and their descendants. They're cowards. The ruling class shapes the laws by shaping public opinion therefore democracy is the worst form of government for representing the interests of the public. Even worse than totalitarianism as the rich are governed to some extent under that system. Our governments can pass and amend laws without our approval then have public opinion shaped to accept such laws as they have done before. Supreme Court rulings, acts passed by Congress and executive orders are examples of that.

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May the real MLs please stand up

What is the ML (anti-revisionist) take on unions? Do they
1. advocate joining the big ones (let's say the ones coopted by capital during the corp-ification of imperial core mixed economies post-WWII) and influencing it with the Parties line?
2. Or do they create entirely new unions from the start (I know there were many ML unions historically, how's the situation today)?
3. If I have a choice between a yellow union, an imperial core socdem union engaging in open repression of MLs, or a syndicalist union - which would be preferable from an ML strategic POV?
4. What is the goal of the union activity for MLs?
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Trofim Lysenko...

Was he right bros? If so, elaborate. If not, elaborate.
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Thought Exercise: Alternate Names for Communist Movements

So what's striking to me in a lot of the non-anarchist communist movement is the amount of significant movements and forms of thought that are named for their theoretical founders. Marxism, Leninism and Maoism first and foremost, but also lesser known strands where liberal accusations of a "cult of personality" are even less likely are subject to this phenomenon: Bordigism, Hoxhaism, Titoism and, depending on who you ask, Stalinism.

Now, the thought exercise is to think about what historical and contemporary communist movements might be called should we base the naming conventions primarily on their theoretical contributions or foundations rather than their theorizers. For example, Marxism could be called something like proletarian materialism and (Marxism-)Leninism something like Vanguardism. Notice that this is how it happens for some (but not all) liberal political thought: social democracy, neoliberalism, conservatism etc.

I realize this might not be a very interesting thread to some but it might be fun to think about in order to come to an understanding of how we view the (admittedly inevitably dumbed down) essence of the ideas we engage with and practice everyday.
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If you don't understand Hegel's ontology + epistemology, then there is no way in hell you understand Marx's ontology + epistemology. Which means you don't understand dialectical materialism. And that in turn means you have some vulgar logical positivist view of what dialectical materialism is.

Cockshott cum drinkers need not apply.
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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees

Második felvonás!
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India General

A general thread for all India related discussion.
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what did you guys think of pierre trudeau, he met with mao a years before nixon and even opened things up between canada and cuba, he had also kept close ties with different left leaning groups specifically trade unions he also crushed the left wing FLQ
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Entertaining Wikipedia Finds

Share Wiki articles or quotes that you found amusing, interesting, weird, etc with your comrades in this thread so that they can share in your amusement, interest, bewilderment, etc.

>Toller's government members were not always well-chosen. For instance, the Foreign Affairs Deputy Dr. Franz Lipp – who had been admitted several times to psychiatric hospitals – declared war on Württemberg and Switzerland over the Swiss refusal to lend 60 locomotives to the Republic.[14][13] He also claimed to be well acquainted with Pope Benedict XV[15] and informed Vladimir Lenin and the Pope by cable that the ousted former Minister-President Hoffmann had fled to Bamberg and taken the key to the ministry toilet with him.[16]
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Opening a separate thread instead of posting this in the Latin America one because i believe it warrants a discussion among anons.


>The Venezuelan National Assembly (AN) has passed a bill to create a National Communal Parliament (PCN).

>The legislation approved on Tuesday aims to set up a body made up of communards elected directly through the country’s local grassroots organizations. The number of communal parliamentarians and election rules will be set up by the country’s electoral authorities.

>The competencies laid out for the new assembly include “deliberating” on matters related to communal structures, holding the Ministry of Communes accountable and proposing laws concerning popular power to the National Assembly. The PCN will in turn respond to committees elected by local instances.

>Former President Hugo Chávez conceived the commune as the “fundamental cell” for the transition towards socialism in Venezuela. According to the 2009 Communes Law, these instances integrate communal councils, social movements and other local organizations and can, in turn, be aggregated to form communal cities, federations and confederations. All instances elect spokespeople and have an assembly as their highest decision-making body.

Libs are taking this badly in the meanwhile

Communards (which are the people organized in the communes network called Union Comunera, not to mistake with the communists politically organized in the APR bloc.
Both are Chavistas so confusion could ensue.) expressed their opinion on this bill with this article


What's your take on all of this? Mine is that this is very interesting to say the least.
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The meaning of the May Day 2021 Online Rally
>The May Day rally both reflected and anticipated enormous changes in the world situation produced by the coronavirus pandemic.


The May Day Rally was excellent. I hope more people will watch the recording of it, if they were not able to attend the live rally.
The two major eye-openers for me were that the pandemic will not end under capitalism, not until after the working class takes political power. Secondly, that the trade union bureaucracies are past their 'death agonies' – not simply moribund, they have attached themselves to the capitalist corporations and state completely, like a fungus feeding off a rotting stump. The working class today has no representation outside of the ICFI.
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How do westoids cope knowing their day in the Sun lasted a mere 200 years or so before China retook its spot as the major center of human civilization? How do they cope knowing that China could only have become the center of global civilization due to Europe’s actions? How do Europeans in particular cope knowing their domination of the entire human race really only occurred in the 19th Century and then they destroyed it with the World Wars (muh Spanish Empire muh Dutch, etc. don’t count since they only dominated the New World and the slave trade before the 1800s and the Anglos are barely European anyway)?
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western "socialists"

I find it interesting that in the west, socialists who are anti tankie almost always prefer the bourgeois dictatorship. I don't know if this is because they just immediately think of the Soviets or they don't know that this includes many things from law to police suppression of uppity capitalists and their expropriation through policies.

In bourgeois society, whether democratic republican or despotic, the working class is highly politicized. This means any time there's a strike or unionization or working class parties, they are framed as disrupters and utopians and idiots etc etc because they don't know how political economy works. There are many policies that the police and government will look away from when it protects the bourgeoisie and oppresses the working class even more. I'm bourgeois society the bourgeoisie are depoliticized which means everything they do is framed as "pure business, no politics".

The inverse of this is the dictatorship of the proletariat which has the same qualities but makes the bourgeois class as the politicized class and the disrupters of peace and economy every time they try any funny business. Strikes and organizing are depoliticized are are "pure business, not political", in the dotp.

So what is it with western socialists aversion to "tankies" and the dictatorship of the proletariat when it's nothing but an inverse?
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Navalny vs Assange, or the geopolitics of selective outrage
>Assange is being made an example of in retribution for the heavy blows he struck against imperialist interests. The same interests mandate support for Navalny, who offers himself up as a tool for realising their designs on Russia.


Mind numbing, sickening hypocrisy of Western imperialism. Navalny is an anti-Putin fascist stooge. Assange is a hero of the international working class. The WSWS is spot on with this article.
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Sino-Soviet Split

What went wrong? Why did China accuse the USSR of revisionism and then almost immediately do revisionist things like ally with the fucking US? What lessons can we take from this experience?
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Leftypol was better five years ago.
It is just full of liberals now.
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Laughing Horse's Orifice Headquarters


Thoughts on this site? found it a year ago, I think, thought it was just a bunch of random texts strapped together but eventually realize most of the theories it contains are leftist and anti-government, most of them, at least. Thanks to the site I found out about this rather mysterious anti-communist secret organization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_Cercle, https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057%2F9781137388803_11

Could it be an insane leftist boomer?
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/USApol/ United States Politics


Feel free to watch US related happenings and chat with other anons at : https://tv.leftypol.org (You can create your own channel too)

Other livestreams:
CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFE
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Voices of power

Ever stop to listen to the voices of the most powerful people in the 20th century? Here are a few:
>Lenin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzf3FRSbEUk
Here he sounds like a lawyer delivering a closing argument, verbose, purposeful, language, controlled, almost patronizing, tone. Kind of annoying after a while but it's clear that Lenin is a guy with a lot to say and he's just trying to get through it.
>Stalin https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay5GzJreY40
Stalin sounds like a regular Georgian country dude, and Georgians sound like Italian Russians. He sounds like a guy that would be selling tickets out of a stand. Not a great voice but I can respect the hustle.
>Mussolini https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpn9iPLbNDc
Mussolini sounds like an actor delivering lines in a play. This is unsurprising given that his entire character was modeled off of a popular Italian movie star in the 1910s. Anyway, it's strongly projected but still totally controlled, again like an actor.
>Hitler https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJ3N_2r6R-o
Hitler's speech to Krupp Factory employees could be played over footage of Germany's declaration of war on the USA and I'd believe it. Hitler takes every opportunity to go unhinged for emphasis, to the point where he's screaming at the audience at times. Whether or not it's an act, he sounds like a schizo, totally dedicated to whatever he's yelling about.
>Mao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLeympkNurk
What to say about him, he sounds pretty timid and soft-spoken, maybe because he was a librarian? Maybe because he has such a strong accent and it's clear that he's working through it? Despite the voice, the guy turned out to be a pretty smart military and political leader, so don't judge a book by its cover as they say.
<What about you?
What do you think about the above voices? What are some other good historical voices to check out?
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The mainstream and countercultures are dead. Culture has become way too diffused globally in the information age for there to be a single coherent culture to signal again.
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To own the libs

>eating sushi to own the libs
>drinking milk to own the libs
>showing my asshole to a camera to own the libs
>not wear a mask at a riot to own the libs
>not getting vaccinated and dying of a preventable disease to own the libs

why the fuck rightoids do this. Obviously we hate the libs too but what the fuck is up with them literally making backlash against whatever the libs happen to want at the moment their entire politics and identity, its like they have no ideas other than doing the exact opposite of the people they don't like, even if its a self own
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Market Socialism from the Microeconomic POV

Why do people ignore the microeconomic factors of market socialism? It's always about Tito or Deng or the IMF
Mises and other faglords used microecon to "prove" the ECP going off the basis that a planned economy could never account for shifts in taste or demand, ignoring the fact that the production of some vital goods are necessary to like… live
Or atleast that's how I saw it, I don't know how the socialist economy would handle markets outside of Dengism giving business autonomy as long as they sing Chee Lai
How would or has Market Socialism impact/ed the individual level and the domestic "business" level?
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US seen as bigger threat to democracy than Russia or China, global poll finds

US seen as bigger threat to democracy than Russia or China, global poll finds
>Belief in importance of democracy high in 53 sampled countries but inequality and big tech companies seen as biggest threats
Libs are apparently astonished at the results and confused as to why China and Russia aren't above the US, but really, who else besides the most burger of burgers was even surprised by these results?
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I was debating with a chud about the vaccine and he posted this.
How do i refute this?
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Cytube thread


Bump this thread if you're planning on watching a movie, theory, music, memes or whatever. You can join any stream and chat without having to make an account, and no email needed if you do want to make an account.
Here's a list of channels, if you want to make a room and have it added to the list, make a post about it ITT.





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Explain why you think communism failed in the past. CHALLENGE MODE: Don't blame the CIA or any other western agency.
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If cryptocurrency is such a threat to governments according to shitcoiners themselves, why haven't they banned it yet? Not even regulations to cryptocurrency are currently in sight.
All governments are quietly letting it spiral out of control, some are even adopting their own digital coins.
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Why did they murder so many people?
Was it just political power play or do they get a hard on when they see people dying?
Will those murderes get into jail or would it be more satisfying to get them to court for high treason, which still has the death penalty on federal level?
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go back to your nearest circlejerk

why are there so many capitalist/fascist swines here, cant they go back to their 4chan circlejerk
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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General

Volume 4: Finally some actual riots edition

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, jungle NPA or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us! Kiwis are welcome! South Asia can joined too I guess.

Last threads
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hey the mods have implemented a character limit and have decided for it to be permanent so what do you guys think of the new change ? do you think it'll have a negative impact on the site or will it be better for it ?

also don't remove the thread, every user deserves to know about this shit not just the minority that goes on /meta/

[mod edit for convenience] Currently 200 character for OPs on /leftypol/ and /edu/ only.
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Technology matters dialectics don't

Technology is what drives social, political and economic change. Society becomes more liberal and degenerate BECAUSE of technology, individualism is the essence of this change, everything we see happening now is just people becoming more individualistic, thinking more of themselves and their own interests than the interests of their community or folk. This was possible only thanks to the mass production of goods which liberated people from the burden of agrarian society, suddenly you didn't have to own a farm and have a huge family, you didn't have to know the baker or the tailor, because some machine (although handled increasingly less by human beings) thousands of miles away will make everything you need to survive.

Political ideologies like socialism, fascism, progressivism and so on could only have arisen thanks to the printing press, imagine Marx trying to preach class consciousness without the original Communist manifesto pamphlets, he'd be limited to where his words were heard, but with publications words can travel far and outlive the writer. Likewise as technology became more advanced so also did the political ideologies, anarcho-this or anarcho-that, it leaves the common man scratching his head.

The economy is the most obvious, 4 stages of industrial revolution can be summed up as such; machines became more complex and required less human involvement, which increased profit.
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what are the japanese left wing online communities like ?
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Engels: against looting

"Of course you know what a meeting at 3pm in Trafalgar Square consists of: masses of the poor devils of the East End who vegetate in the borderland between working class and Lumpenproletariat, and a sufficient admixture of roughs and 'Arrys to leaven the whole into a mass ready for any "lark" up to a wild riotà propos de rien [about nothing]. Well, just at the time when this element was getting the upper hand (Kautsky who was there says das eigentliche Meeting war vorbei, die Keilerei ging los und so ging ich weg [the meeting proper was over, the brawling broke out and so I made off]), the wiseacres above named took these roughs in procession through Pall Mall and Piccadilly to Hyde Park for another and a truly revolutionary meeting. But on the road the roughs took matters into their own hands, smashed club windows and shop fronts, plundered first wine stores and bakers' shops, and then some jewellers' shops also, so that in Hyde Park our revolutionary swells had to preach "le calme et la modération"! While they were soft-sawdering, the wrecking and plundering went on outside in Audley St and even as far as Oxford St where at last the police intervened.

The absence of the police shows that the row was wanted, but that Hyndman and Codonnaient dans le piège [fell into the trap] is impardonable and brands them finally as not only helpless fools but also as scamps. They wanted to wash off the disgrace of their electoral manoeuvre, and now they have done an irreparable damage to the movement here.

To make a revolution – and that à propos de rien [about nothing], when and where they liked – they thought nothing else was required but the paltry tricks sufficient to "boss" an agitation for any vile fad, packed meetings, lying in the press, and then, with five and twenty men secured to back them up, 'appealing to the masses to "rise" somehow, as best they might, against nobody in particular and everything in general, and trust to luck for the result.

During the procession, during this second little meeting and afterwards, the masses of the Lumpenproletariat, whom Hyndman had taken for the unemployed, streamed through some fashionable streets near by, looted jewellers' and other shops, used the loaves and legs of mutton which they had looted solely to break windows with, and dispersed without meeting any resistance. Only a remnant of them were broken up in Oxford Street by four, say four, policemen….

In addition a prosecution has been brought against Hyndman and Co which is so weak that the intention is that it should come to nothing…. The gentlemen certainly told a lot of tall stories about the social revolution, which, in front of that audience and in the absence of any organised support among the masses, was completely stupid; but I can hardly believe that the government is so foolish as to want to make martyrs of them.

These socialist gentlemen want to conjure up a movement by force and over night, something that here as elsewhere necessarily takes years of work; though it is also the case that, once it is under way and imposed on the masses through historic events, it may develop far more quickly here than on the Continent. But people like these cannot wait, and this leads to childish actions such as we are usually accustomed to seeing only from the anarchists.

Shouting about revolution, which in France passes off harmlessly as stale stuff, is utter nonsense here among the totally unprepared masses and has the effect of scaring away the proletariat, only exciting the demoralised elements. It absolutely cannot be understood here as anything but a summons to looting, which accordingly followed and has brought discredit which will last a long time here, among the workers too.

What has been achieved – among the bourgeois public – is the identification of socialism with looting, and even though that does not make the matter much worse, still it is certainly no gain to us."

Engels to August Bebel, London, 15 February 1886.
Marx & Engels Collected Works Volume 47, p. 406
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America: what is to be done?


The left is currently experiencing a revival in America, so it is now a good time for the American left to plan out its long-term strategy. Before we can figure out what strategies to pursue, let's take a look at some of the challenges the left faces here:
-A weak and declining labor movement
-An electoral system that makes it nearly impossible for leftist parties to get elected to important offices
-Leftists are forced to run as Democrats if they want to win elections. It seems that being part of the Democratic Party makes leftist politicians less willing to challenge the political establishment.
-Large amount of fragmentation, especially on the far-left. For example, there are dozens of parties claiming the be the "vanguard" of the working class.
-A state that is ruthlessly efficient at repressing the left
-Racial tensions that could make it difficult to maintain a multiracial working class coalition
-A state that tremendous capacity to inflict violence on the left if the need were to arise
-Right-wing paramilitaries
-Lack of left-wing paramilitaries

With these things in mind, I'll make some recommendations for what the American left should do.

Electoral strategy

The left should make a big priority of enacting electoral reform. They should seek to implement proportional representation at the local and state level wherever it can be voted on via a ballot measure. We can't expect legislatures to vote for legislation that would give them more competition, so we need to use direct democracy wherever possible. At the federal level it is not possible to enact proportional because there is a federal law mandating all House of Representative districts to be single-member. For the House, the left should seek to implement some sort of ranked or cardinal voting system like the Condorcet method or STAR voting.

The left should seek to abolish the electoral college, as it tilts American politics further to the right.

The left should seek to abolish the filibuster, as it biases the legislative process in favor of the status quo.

So long as they cannot win on third party tickets, leftists should run as Democrats. However, there are some more things they should do besides that. Firstly, their campaigns should receive only small donations from individuals and large donations from working class organizations like labor unions. They should accept no corporate money. Secondly, they should be part of some sort of left-wing pseudo-party like Democratic Socialists of America so that they have some accountability to an organization other than the Democratic Party. Thirdly, these pseudo-parties should 1) be mass organizations accountable to the working class and 2) have some sort of mechanism for holding their elected officials accountable if they do not pursue the policies that the pseudo-party wants them to. An example of such a mechanism would be for the pseudo-party to withdraw support for an elected official if they repeatedly fail to follow the policy platform prescribed by the pseudo-party.

The left should avoid forming personality cults around high-profile left-wing politicians, as it makes it harder to effectively criticize them when necessary.

The left should seek to win elections on third party tickets whenever possible. This would be easiest at the local level, especially in uncontested races.

The left should seek to abolish any other laws that make it hard for third parties to get onto ballots and win elections.

Organized labor

I do not know enough about organized labor to offer many suggestions for them. However, there is a strategy used by the IWW that other unions may want to replicate. The IWW avoids holding public union votes and instead secretly goes from worker to worker, asking them to declare their support for a union. Once a majority of workers at a given workplace have declared their support, the IWW goes ahead with forming a union there. This method makes it easier to avoid the sort of employer interference that has sunk many unionization efforts, most notably the recent Amazon union vote in Bessemer, Alabama.

Left unity

While sectarianism may be fun in internet arguments, it is highly counter-productive in real life. Left-wing organizations should seek to increase their cooperation with other left-wing organizations, and perhaps merge together when possible. There's little point in having 50 vanguard parties, at least if they don't work together. Additionally, far-left organizations like CPUSA, PSL, IWW, and others should cooperate with more moderate organizations like the DSA so long as they have shared goals. I know Bernie killed Rosa, but the far-left will be able to accomplish more by working with moderate left-wing organizations than by shunning them. Additionally, moderate organizations can build a base of support that more radical organizations can tap into later on. Save shitting on socdems for when The Revolution™ comes.

Operations security

State repression has wrecked the left numerous times in American history, so the left should have some strategies for combating it. However, I do not know much about opsec so I can't offer much advice here. I do expect there to be a balancing act between transparency and security though.


I know leftypol is a class reductionist board, but the fact of the matter is that the American working class is too diverse for class reductionism. The American left should stand in opposition to all forms of oppression including, but not necessarily limited to, capitalism, racism, patriarchy, ableism, homophobia, and transphobia. The left also needs to be careful to avoid alienating subsets of the working class, like some ethnic groups, in their organizing work. For example, while they should take a firm stance against racism and white supremacy, the left should be careful to avoid a "Fuck whitey lmao" type mindset.

Additionally, the left should offer support to identity-based social movements like Black Lives Matter, feminist movements, LGBT rights movements, immigrants' rights movements, and others. Building up alliances with those movements will be beneficial growing your movement.


The left should do whatever it can to weaken far-right movements


While the left should avoid instigating armed conflict, it should be ready to defend itself should it ever come under attack. Giving combat training to working people and organizing them into paramilitaries is probably a good idea, although I am not sure what kind of relationship these paramilitaries should have to other left-wing groups. The right already has its own paramilitaries, should the left should be ready challenge them on their own turf.

Your thoughts

These are just a few rough suggestions of mine, and should by no means should be interpreted as authoritative wisdom on what the American left ought to do. That said, what suggestions, would you give?
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The politics.of futurtech

As tech increases the power of the state yo properly enforce its will on the individual decreases.

How can you have a society if technology can make a man a god?

This effect will only grow worse with time as the tech level increases.

What measures can society implement to stop individuals from developing new weapon systems faster than laws can be made?
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Tankies Are Glowies

You guys do not seem to understand how CIA plants work. Any time someone argues against tankoid bullshit they get called a glowie. But the reality is that the purpose of CIA plants is to blend in and uncover informatiom from the inside; glowies are never going to disagree with you. They also try to turn off people from the ideology by being the most ridiculous strawmen possible, which is an apt description of many online MLs. Ergo, the people online simping hard for China, Stalin, NK, etc., and calling you a glowie for having the basic geopolitical sense to not side with everyone that happens to oppose the US, is probably a glowie. Speaking frankly, what's made me closer to recanting Marxism than any liberal anti-communist arguments is MLs claiming a monopoly on Marxism and then arguing in defense of dystopias. That's likely by design; many of the people doing that are likely CIA plants who want to dissuade me from Marxism.
Many people below will make fun of this post with no argument or very bad one-line arguments; they are mostly just glowies worried I'm undermining their cover, ignore them.
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How do Americans remain sane when claiming that any act of kindness, solidarity, compassion, or anything that improves their own lives is communism while also decrying communism as the most evil thing to ever exist?
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Was WW2 an imperialist war like WW1 was?

btw in case you don't know what ww2 was (it's an abbreviation) :
World War II or the Second World War, often abbreviated as WWII or WW2, was a global war that lasted from 1939 to 1945. It involved the vast majority of the world's countries—including all the great powers—forming two opposing military alliances: the Allies and the Axis powers.
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Escaping Censorship

The tech media monopolies have been ramping up attacks on independent news media ever since the US capital riots, but they have really escalated censorship the last few days. Grayzone story getting tagged by Twitter as "material that may have been obtained through hacking", Analysis.news getting a video about the lack of police presence during the riots flagged by Youtube for spreading misinformation about election fraud, and Consortium News getting a video taken down for talking all about voter suppression.




This is not a thread for discussion about what speech will look like after the revolution; this is about what we can do right now to help our allies escape censorship and keep public discourse open to our politics. How can we help each other?
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DEBRIEFING: The Man Who Sold the World

TL;DR: bunkerchan is no more, any obligations newsanon or other anons had to consider for both sites are lifted.

DISCLAIMER – for the purposes of internal security, pseudonyms will be used to protect the identities of those involved.

Recommended listening: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU2wBKoDOzg

<Early April>

>Through communications within bunkerchan’s matrix chat, it is revealed that Apollyon is enacting a plot to revive bunkerchan through means unknown. The moderation team and userbase speculates on possibilities.
>The mod team begins to look at contingencies for certain possible plans of action and begins the work of forming a unified position on the matter of bunkerchan.
<April 17>
>Moderator Cybersyn is bantering with the general chat in the leftypol matrix about the possibilities of what Apollyon is up to.
>During the conversation, Spartacus comes forwards to Cybersyn about information relating to the plan.
>Spartacus reveals that Apollyon is looking to use an article published by Foreign Policy as leverage to negotiate with the leftypol.org moderation team for his entry back into the leftypol.org moderation team.
>Cybersyn takes this information to the rest of the mod team. Knowing in advance what Apollyon’s plans are, the mod team drops all other contingencies and begins planning around the now-revealed plot.
<April 18>
>Cybersyn confirms several facts about Spartacus, including his position on the bunkerchan mod team and his loyalties to the community above all else.
>Spartacus continues to give out details as they come as to Apollyon’s plot.
>It is revealed that internally the remainders of the bunkerchan mod team (at this point, about 3 continually active members) were splintering over the decision.
>Vagin-x, one of those last mods, announces his decision to no longer moderate in light of Apollyon’s decision. He will accept no reconciliation with leftypol.org.
<April 19>
>After confirming Spartacus’ intel, the mod team decides to look into recruiting them as a leftypol.org mod.
>Spartacus is brought forwards for an interview.
>Spartacus reveals an early draft of Apollyon’s demands. They were basically unchanged when they were publicly brought forwards.
<April 20>
>Spartacus is put forwards to a vote to become a moderator on leftypol.org.
>Cybersyn and another mod Sappho edit down all information gathered thus far into a more easily digestible packet of information for distribution within the mod team.
> Vagin-x urges Apollyon to go public with the negotiations when they occur.
<April 21>
>Spartacus is accepted into the mod team with an instant-pass majority (at this time, 5 votes).
>Apollyon opens negotiations with the leftypol.org mod team.
>The leftypol.org mod team had reached an internal consensus to hold their cards close to their chest and pretended not to know Apollyon’s complete plans.
>The negotiations on the first day largely go nowhere. No side wins any concessions and negotiations break down into arguing.
<April 22>
>Negotiations reopen, the leftypol.org mod team delegates Cybersyn and Koba as the lead negotiators with Apollyon.
>Cybersyn and Koba get Apollyon to agree to a precondition for all further negotiations – the transfer of the bunkerchan.net domain to one of Apollyon’s other active mods to keep the domain in neutral hands.
>The mod selected is Spartacus.
>Negotiations end on a high note, and Cybersyn and Spartacus consult privately on how to handle proceedings.
>Spartacus agrees with a plot – either force Apollyon to fully concede and step down from moderation and be absolved of his wrongdoing, or Spartacus will redirect the domain of bunkerchan.net to leftypol.org and thus destroy Apollyon’s position and bargaining chip.
>The plot is brought forwards to the rest of the mod team, and it is agreed to keep it as a course of action should favorable negotiations not be reached.
<April 23> - <April 27>
>Little action happens, the leftypol.org mod team waits for the domain transfer to complete between Apollyon to Spartacus.
>Vagin-x begins publicly leaking details of negotiations to bunkerchan, and advertises his own board as an alternative to bunkerchan and leftypol.
<April 28>
>The domain transfer is confirmed as completed by Spartacus.
>The mod team enters the final stages of the plot and begins to push the issue of Apollyon in the negotiations.
>Several demands for Apollyon’s removal are made, for the sake of the site and to satiate public desires for his removal from power. Apollyon rejects all demands and holds that he will remain a moderator or the merger will not happen.
>Seeing Apollyon will not concede, several late-night proposals are made for how to proceed with negotiations.
<April 29>
>Several of the proposals are approved and forwarded as votes, primarily dealing with how quickly the plot should be executed and how much information should be revealed to the public after the fact.
>Apollyon is further pushed to concede by the mod team, and refuses all attempts.
<April 30>
>Several of the votes pass, including one to execute the plot and a vote to create this debriefing to begin with.
>One final ultimatum is made to Apollyon to step down in the face of a public consensus against him. Apollyon refuses, and all negotiations break down.
>The mod team enacts the plot, Spartacus is contacted.
>Spartacus redirects the bunkerchan.net domain to leftypol.org.
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Kent State Massacre

>go to r/stupidpol
>no Kent State thread
>Come here to make fun of them for being fake leftists
>Ctrl + F "Kent State"
>0 results


4 martyrs give their lives to help end the Vietnam War and this is how you repay them?
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Why are all the genuinely communist identified subs on reddit dengoid shitholes? Every single one I saw is gurgling China’s jizz, they all preference Deng over Mao, cringe zoom zooms asking how to make their friends Dengists, shit like that. Why is it so difficult for reddit commies to not be completely cringe and retarded?
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Is it bad if I think that my life would have been better under feudalism or at the very least pre-industrial mercantilism? Sure life expectancy was shit but I might’ve been able to have genuine human relationships and community. Plus if I was literate I could actually read theory and not have my brain and attention span destroyed by the internet
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Is pornography a capitalist creation?
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News 5/4/21

France to sell Egypt 30 fighter jets in $4.5 bln deal -Egyptian defense ministry, report
President Emmanuel Macron said in December he would not make the sale of weapons to Egypt conditional on human rights because he did not want to weaken Cairo's ability to counter terrorism in the region, a comment that drew the ire of critics.

Biden waving restriction blocking aid to Azerbaijan over Armenia conflict
The waiver applies to Section 907 of the Freedom Support Act and its renewal — which has happened annually since 2002 — which allows the U.S. to provide military assistance to Azerbaijan so long as the secretary of State certifies that such assistance does not contribute to conflict in the region.

‘Stop the massacre’: Colombia tax protests continue after more than a dozen people DIE in clashes with police
Rallying around the slogan “Stop the massacre,” protesters took to the streets in several cities on Monday, following the news that Nicolas Guerrero, 22, was reportedly shot in the head by riot police in the city of Cali. The new round of protests stretched from Cali in the southwest to the capital of Bogota, as well as Medellin and Barranquilla in the north, AFP reported.

Venezuelan Trade Unions, Left Parties Blast ‘Pyrrhic’ May 1 Wage Increase
Unions and leftist organizations highlighted a series of other issues over the weekend, including wage restructuring, de facto dollarization and deteriorated workplace conditions. There have also been a number of independently-organized protests in recent weeks over pay, conditions, and privatization in recent months.

Turkey aims to occupy the whole of Iraqi Kurdistan, Kurdish officials warn
TURKEY aims to occupy the whole of Iraqi Kurdistan, Kurdish officials warned today, as the world remains largely silent on the Nato member state’s latest illegal military operation. “Turkey is trying to empty Kurdistan of the Kurds,” Democratic Left Party in Syria general secretary Saleh Kedo told the ANHA news agency.

German police detain man for using neo-Nazi acronym during three-year hate mail campaign
The unnamed suspect, who had previously been prosecuted for crimes linked to his far-right views, was arrested over allegations he was behind hateful messages sent to both regional and national politicians, and a Turkish-German lawyer, using the name ‘NSU 2.0’, in a reference to the underground group National Socialist (NSU).

In political shoot-out, opposition leader takes aim at Moscow's man in Komi
Mikhailov represents the Communist Party, and has over several years been an outspoken critic of the ruling United Russia, including its handling of the controversial Shies land fill project. Governor Uyba reacted with outrage on the critical remarks from Mikhailov and subsequently approached him with outright threats. That conversation was recorded, and Mikhailov has now filed a suit at the regional General Prosecutor.

After emphatic win in Kerala, Left mulls national-level alternative against BJP
Taking a cue from the emphatic victory in Kerala, the Communist Party of India (Marxist) will take a fresh initiative to build an alternative against the Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP) at the national level, party’s acting secretary A Vijayaraghavan said on Tuesday in the state capital.

Maoist Centre decides to withdraw support to government
The Communist Party of Nepal (Maoist Centre) has decided to withdraw its support to the KP Sharma Oli government. Maoist Centre spokesperson Narayan Kaji Shrestha said Tuesday’s Standing Committee meeting of the party decided to withdraw the support.
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What made you a leftist?

What brought you into this hellscape of a board and ideology? Was it the internet (duh) or something/someone irl?
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I mean... he has a point...

Nick Fuentes once again speaks facts and you sectarian faggots on /leftypol/ and /pol/ keep fighting the wrong enemies. /leftypol/s main priority is racist /pol/ hillbillies who live in trailer parks I guess.
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why hasnt the revolution come

Why hasn't the proletariat of the west ever revolted? How much more do they need?
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The Internet Doesn't Matter: A cope

For all those anons who say that it doesn't matter that the left is irrelevant online or at the very least weak compared to the neoliberals, conservatives, and radlibs, socdems, and left anti communist etc. The internet IS important, and saying otherwise is a massive cope.

>You need to do real organizing instead

It's not either/or. And this seems to imply that the internet isn't influential as your local, on the ground org. This may or may not be true depending on what it's actually doing. Organizing around unions, rent, student debt, etc. May be good but I often hear this excuse deployed in defense of what are essentially glorified bookclubs, or worse, just made by party-less armchair shitposters who don't have any intention of any activism at all, even online slacktivism. They aren't against internet activism because they have a better form of praxis. They're against it because they too lazy to even do that. There's a reason theorists like Bordiga became a meme on leftypol, because he says activism is bullshit and the most revolutionary thing you can do is read theory and wait for muh true revolution. In that sense /leftypol/ is a de facto Bordigist party.

>The internet isn't influential

This is the even bigger cope, trying to spin vulgar economism as enlightened. "oh the internet is all superstructure" trying to pretend we are just above it all when in fact we are LOSING. There are tons of young people who get radicalized on social media and trying to pretend otherwise is just dumb. If not for running across radical politics on the internet, most of those people would have just ended up becoming liberals or vaguely dissatisfied adults who lack the knowledge or vocabulary to even articulate their discontent with the system. As people age they will eventually mature in their ideas but if no one pulls them in in the first place that won't happen. So yes, THE INTERNET DOES MATTER. And outreach on social media matters. That people can even deny this in the 21st century is mindblowing, they are either larping as a 1930s trotskyist pamphleteer or something, I don't know. This is especially even more true in this age of COVID and social distancing.

>You can meet in real life

Ceding this ground to the right and the libs would be a big mistake. Especially since it would imply there is a geographic, on the ground base of support for socialism in the west which there isn't. The left is so geographically dispersed that the internet is in some sense the only place they CAN meet, at least for people in the anglosphere esp. burgerland. Also the lifecycle of movements is that they start online and then spill out onto the streets. In the 21st century this is always the case.

The actual radical left must take the war of position on the internet seriously. To do otherwise is essentially to abandon a potential whole new generation to the right and the liberals. Once a certain marxist philosopher said that philosophy represents the class struggle in theory. Today, shitposting and memery represents class struggle online. And this will grow only MORE true as time goes on and even the developing/third world will have access to the internet and even high speed internet eventually. You can even see this spilling into third world countries as the right in the third would uncritically repeats right wing burger memes, you have fucking Pakistanis being influenced by Steven Bannon. Do you think Steve Bannon has ever published a book in or even visited Pakistan? no. Its the INTERNET.

When you think of a revolutionary organization its 90% agitprop and 10% violent actions. Assuming the latter is out of the question for numerous obvious reasons both political and practical which we won't go into here, what you are left with is agitprop. The most productive thing you can do today is create a digital marketing firm which spreads communism. And whats the most cost effective way to get in front of a bunch of eyeballs? Thats right, the internet. Or does ever corporation in the world know more than you do about advertising?

Face it, saying "give up on the internet" is a huge 'sour grapes' COPE. The biggest lie is that internet politics is larping. No, the idea that you will somehow manifest an on the streets movement without at least some online component or starting it there is the biggest LARP of all, because you are fetishizing 20th century historical re-enactment tactics and conflating that with somehow being more authentic and anti-idpol/anti-culture war, when in reality its just a massive COPE.
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Is Yanis based or cringe?
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the islamic world

what is the marxist explanation for the fall of the islamic world out of relevancy after the 16th century?

notice keyword here,"marxist",the usual explanation that is used is how the caliphate lost wars,important trade routes,and had its largest library burned,but is that all?
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/EUROpol/ European Politics General

Are you sitting down?
1. Dutch government resigns amid child welfare benefits scandal
2. Angela Merkel stepping down.
3. Estonia Prime Minister missing
4. Italian government has collapsed.
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>cockshott will die in your lifetime
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Predictions for the state of the world in the next decade?

Interested in opining how the world might look by 2030
List of events that will likely occur this decade or are already occurring
>Severe economic collapse
>Blue ocean event
>Consolidation of the world into the Defense of UN Charter Bloc consisting of China, Russia, and Iran (and their allies) vs the US led NATO bloc (possible EU independence from NATO but currently unsure)
>COVID reaching a much worse climax than what is currently happening
>Continued eradication of petit booj/consolidation of capital in the hands of massive partially online operated firms
What are your predictions for 2030 and beyond?
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theanarchistlibrary.org is just simply ridiculous

I remember back in the day when I was introduced to anarchism I asked around for reading material. Basically there were four kinds of answers: "read the classics" ('kunin, 'potkin, Goldman, etc.), "read stuff from libcom.org" (for that sweet leftcom USSR crit.), "read contemporary theory" (theanarchistlibrary, CrimethInc.), or just "pretend to read" (AnarchistFAQ). Now obviously the best sounding answer to anyone is the contemporary shit. How exciting it is that anarchism is a living, breathing political tradition and to this very day new and valuable insights are being unearthed – or so I thought.

But after having read a good bunch of them (they don't tend to be long, mind you) I found that a significant chunk of them are either confused ramblings of an internet rando with an alias, amateurish phrase mongerings, or (probably the worst of all) some super autistic snowflake ideology's manifesto about how it's "time for [insert anarcho-x-ism]". I'm not gonna say I didn't find some hidden gems here and there, but holy cow, I'd wager a good 80% of the "contemporary" content there ranges from mediocre or useless to insultingly bad.

Just take a look at their recent publication from Mazeen Kamalmaz:
>The most important point we can get from Black Bloc tactics is the priority of human freedom essence of human existence itself.
<human freedom essence
>This is directly generated from an absolute right that is not negotiable in the form of living freely with the right to revolt.
<human freedom essence [is] directly generated from an absolute right
This is just alchemy-tier nonsense, meaningless rambling of a confused mind. Just replace "freedom essence" with "race essence" and a fucking /pol/schizo could have written it on their Dark Enlightenment blogs, and it would have just as much relation to reality as this original version.
>Freedom is the most precious thing at all [sic]
>distribute wealth among humans . [sic]
I know peer review is "fascist" but for fuck's sake if you are going to publish at least correct the mistakes of your (most likely) non-native author and her typos. Do they even read what's submitted?
>authority ritual (a close example is crowds of Stalinism – Hitlerism that are turned into Herds, their individualities and brains get crushed as the center of the crowd will be only the leader).
On the one hand it's 2021 and Stalin is still living in your head rent free, on the other: the fuck are you even talking about? Stalin-Hitlerism sure "crushed" somebody's brain here.
(Just a reminder: we are supposedly reading about the Philosophy of Black Bloc.)
>The culture of resistance carried by Black Bloc always imposes to make it against mainstream class and all it categories.
Ah, yes, let's oppose the mainstream class, but also the meany class and the ugly class as well.

This was published on May 1, mind you. Turns out they just put the original into Google translate and hit "publish." Happy may day, proles.
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The French army’s coup plots and the global onslaught on democratic rights
>The alternative to the capitalists’ “herd immunity” policies and drive to police-state rule is the international mobilization of the working class.


The far right French generals letter and the complete silence of the political establishment circles in this regards is a clear revelation of the growing fears the ruling classes are now facing. In fact, the content of the letter makes it clear that heightened social inequality under Capitalism and the ongoing pandemic will have global revolutionary situation. For this reason they are urging the French bourgeoisie to adopt more dictatorial means as a means to safeguard their privileges under these challenging times. In doing so they are using 'Islamism" as scapegoat in order to distract the public from deep class divisions. Today in many parts of the world those who are in power are using fascism for their own ends. In response the international working class now more then ever must form a socialist leadership that could help unite them and advance their own material interests independently.
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Why are 4channers so obsessed with China and their hatred of it?
Is it just typical polcel racism fearing “le bugmen” who are clearly starting to BTFO Burgerstan and all of Western civilization, or is it the sheer abundance of glowies constantly posting there to tell “le uncucked free thinking channers” what to feel?
It’s so hard to tell apart the thoughts of an idiot polcel from a CIA glowie, it’s like they’re pretty much identical
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Thoughts on the Edelweiss pirates?

They seem like the closest thing to armed resistance to Hitler's regime

To me they seem like todays rebellious anarkiddy teens that were opposed to the authoritarianism and stringent discipline of the german society, although they did at one point almost start an uprising in the Cologne. When the city was bombed out they stole weapons and explosives and together with escaped prisoners and The KPD engaged in shootouts with the army that lasted for days. They seem like something that, had germany won the war could have become a real counter culture movement with chances of becoming a big driver of social change and potential collapse of the regime some 30-40 years later

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One month after schools reopened, Pennsylvania enters fourth surge of pandemic


>The coronavirus continues to spread through Pennsylvania at an alarming rate, with the state now recording nearly 5,000 cases a day, double the rate a month ago. An average of 40 people are dying across the state each day, and the surge of new cases portends a new wave of deaths in the coming weeks. The number of hospitalizations has doubled since mid-March to almost 3,000, 20 percent of which are in intensive care units (ICUs).

>This rapid rise in cases and hospitalizations takes place roughly a month after schools reopened in Philadelphia and throughout the state, and is occurring despite the ramping up of vaccinations. More than 42 percent of Pennsylvanians have received their first shot and 25 percent are fully vaccinated. However, there are still millions of people who are vulnerable to infection.

>Under these conditions, the spread of more contagious and deadly variants is particularly concerning. An estimated one-third of all COVID-19 cases in Pennsylvania are caused by a variant strain, and 28 percent of cases are caused by the B.1.1.7 UK variant. With limited resources for genome sequencing, the true prevalence of the UK variant is likely much higher. The largest group of those infected has reduced in age to those 45-64, and the UK variant has shown a proclivity for infecting young people aged 5-17.

>Despite the fact that Pennsylvania has entered a fourth wave of the pandemic, state officials have explicitly stated their intention to continue the relaxation of standard public health measures.

>Alison Beam, Pennsylvania’s acting health secretary, said the state did not have plans to impose new lockdowns. She encouraged people to wear masks, social distance and get vaccinated, but refused to acknowledge the threat of a new wave, saying, “At this stage, our hospitals have not indicated to us that they are overrun or that they foresee being overrun. That will be truly one of our key gauges of when any further mitigation effort would need to be even contemplated.”

>This is an act of criminal negligence, tantamount to informing a cancer patient to wait until the illness is terminal before receiving treatment.

>The communications director of the Philadelphia Department of Public Health, James Garrow, acknowledged that cases were rising as restrictions were relaxed, but echoed Beam’s statements. He indicated that the city would only “seriously discuss” reimposing restrictions if cases continued to rise for another month.

>These state officials are promoting the ruling class policy of “herd immunity,” based on letting the virus continue to spread uncontrolled long before all Pennsylvanians are able to be fully vaccinated. Every person that is infected and dies within the next few months is a death that could have been prevented by proper public health measures.

>These policies pose a serious threat in public schools in particular, which have gone through an aggressive phase of reopening over the past two months. Schools have been singled out by the Biden administration and state governors as the most critical focus in protecting the interests of the rich. Children must return to class to be warehoused so that their parents can be compelled to return to work generating profits.

>One Philadelphia parent spoke with the World Socialist Web Site about her concerns on returning students to the classroom. She said, “I think we need to keep things cautious until we can figure this out. … I am okay with school staying virtual. I know parents that previously sent their kids to school knowing they were sick.”

>While Pennsylvania does not collect data on COVID-19 outbreaks in schools, the emergence of schools as the primary source of outbreaks in Michigan, the new epicenter of the pandemic in the US, demonstrates the threat in Pennsylvania schools. In Philadelphia, two schools have been forced to temporarily close due to outbreaks, and at least 126 infections have occurred since schools reopened in March, with many others throughout the state.

>A high school in the Boyertown Area School District closed for just one day after seven students tested positive between April 5 and April 9. Penns Valley Area School District also closed their elementary and high schools last week after multiple cases were reported. Both schools reopened Monday under new state guidance that reduces the amount of time that a school must remain closed following an outbreak to just a few days.

>Most schools have confined school reopenings to elementary and middle schools, but Scranton School District is the largest district to return high school students to in-person class. On Monday, just under half of the district’s high school students returned for in-person instruction. High school class structures will present new challenges to teachers and staff and potentially accelerate the rate of infections, which have totaled 30 students and staff since April 1.

>These outbreaks are occurring at the same time that school districts are planning to host in-person summer schools, which is also being pushed aggressively by the Biden administration. Pittsburgh has already identified 1,500 students who would qualify to attend, with a potential further 3,000 students who could enroll.

>Some of the charter schools in Philadelphia have also begun drafting a similar plan. According to teachers, the district is attempting to entice staff with a promise of double pay if they agree to teach in-person for the summer. This plan comes after attempts by the school board to reopen the schools were thwarted by teachers who organized opposition to the plan. Fearing the independent organization of teachers, the district backed down and reversed its decision.

>Officials present the summer schools as offering students a chance to make up for lost learning during online instruction, but given the current trajectory of new cases, schools will be highly unsafe in the summer. Children under the age of 16 are not likely to be eligible for vaccination until late summer or the fall.

>Pennsylvania is also leading the nation in reducing the distance between students from six feet to three. Even before the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) approved this guideline, schools in Pennsylvania began implementing the shorter distance.

>Teachers throughout the state reacted with outrage after American Federation of Teachers (AFT) President Randi Weingarten voiced approval of the shorter distance.

>The Philadelphia teacher commented, “I listen to the media quite a bit, and I’ve heard many, many references to three feet in school. But I don’t hear any medical rationale for why that has been changed. Nor have I heard any medical evidence as to why three feet would be appropriate in schools, but not in other social gatherings.

>“The fact that the union leadership, which claims to be for workers and the kids we teach, has affirmed something about which I have heard zero evidence, is an objective, irrefutable demonstration that they are not for the students and they are not for the teachers.

>“This is just like police departments that won’t show the body-cam video. It is irrefutable proof that they don’t work for you. In a similar fashion, this is a public declaration by the union that they don’t work for you

>Another Pennsylvania teacher added, “This doesn’t surprise me. They have no intention of fixing this for anybody. They are the firemen for the ruling class, putting out fires to keep people in line.”

>A teacher from Ohio commented, “To me this ties into Biden’s claim that children do not catch COVID. We know this is complete nonsense, it’s a complete lie to everything that we have seen, including the materials published on the WSWS. Both of these claims go hand-in-hand to downplay the severity of this crisis upon our children and our schools.”

>The pandemic has also resulted in staffing issues in Pittsburgh. The Pittsburgh School District has reported that a shortage of school bus drivers has resulted in a deficit of 1,300 seats affecting 30 schools. According to the district, they need at least 200 drivers by May 3 to accommodate the number of students who use district transportation, and at least 350 are needed by the fall when the district plans to be fully in-person.

>The shortage of drivers is a result of the pandemic, with many drivers choosing to leave the profession in search of more stable employment or to stay home with family. Many have also cited concerns for their health and safety due to the risk of infection.

>Problems with staffing will continue to plague Pennsylvania schools after the end of the pandemic as districts face revenue losses.

>A recent report by Good Jobs First found that tax breaks for real estate development companies across the country are costing schools an estimated $2.37 billion a year. The district with the single largest loss is Philadelphia, which is losing an estimated $112 million a year, or $800 per student. These funds have been concentrated in already wealthy neighborhoods, with just 7 percent of properties receiving 50 percent of the tax abatement benefits.

>Issues with budgets and school funding will inevitably force teachers and staff into struggle with their districts as they fight for better funding and wages. Last week, 900 teachers in Scranton, Pennsylvania, voted overwhelmingly to go on strike.

>Scranton Federation of Teachers (SFT) President Rosemary Boland said that Scranton teachers “would like to go on strike right now. They’re outraged. They’re fed up. They’re tired. They’re tired of being taken for granted. They’re just plain tired.”

>While posturing as oppositional, the union will do everything possible to dissipate teachers’ anger and keep them isolated should a strike develop. When the previous contract expired in 2017, teachers voted to strike but the union did nothing, forcing them to work for the past four years without a contract. Teachers are prepared to fight for tens of thousands of dollars in back pay and pay raises that have been delayed for years, but this cannot be won through the pro-corporate union, which is beholden to the AFT, its state affiliate and the Democratic Party.

>It is critical that Scranton teachers join and help build the Pennsylvania Educators Rank-and-File Safety Committee as a genuine fighting organization, independent of the unions and both big business parties. This committee has opposed the unsafe reopening of schools throughout the past year, and is fighting to defend the public and save lives. Sign up today to get involved!
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Any restaurant workers here?

Hopefully there are. (I know from experience that there are.) Please indicate in your response(s) that you are from the industry or not.

What would you, as a waiter say to the fact that 99% of your job could be immediately automated? What "keeps" your job "running" under capitalism?

What about you, chef?
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Switching Sides for money

Would you change your alignment from pro-socialism to pro-capitalism if you turned into picrel or got rich? and if so how much money exactly?(USD$)
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Getting rid of white people as means of getting rid of hierarchy.

The natural state of white people is slavery. Not of slaver, of the slave– the trans-Atlantic slave trade was one of the biggest projection copes in history. Why? Well, examining history, you see that white people have always been slaves, more than Africans, or any race for that matter, whites have always been slaves to their kings, their feudal lords, (now) their bosses, (now) desires they can't control (porn addiction, etc.).
Natural state of the white man is subordinate, which is why now that multiculturalism is introduced, they're getting socially BTFO by POC (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgulDBPAhnI https://youtu.be/LgB7H4REF8o). We literally own the USA's socio-political sphere.
to get rid of slavery we have to get rid of white people, cause they just gonna be sucking peoples dick over and over lmfao :|
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If your country isn't in The UN Super Friends, it's not based. Simple as.

Didn't know what thread to put this in since it's worldwide.

>A concept note for the “Group of Friends in Defense of the Charter of the United Nations,” seen by Reuters, states that multilateralism “is currently under an unprecedented attack, which, in turn, threatens global peace and security.”

>US respected intellectual Noam Chomsky expressed his support for creating a Group of Friends in Defense of the Charter of the United Nations, an initiative promoted by the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela and other UN member states within the multilateral organization.

>“[Defending the UN Charter] is a very noble objective. The UN Charter has a lot of good things in it; it’s very much worth defending,” remarked Chomsky

> Venezuela’s Foreign Minister pointed out that his country proposed in 2019 the creation of the Group of Friends in Defense of the Charter of the United Nations, following the US attempt to impose a president in Venezuela who self-proclaimed at a square without being elected.

>Arreaza explained that 20 countries have joined the Group and others are joining it, most of them member states of the Non-Aligned Movement (NAM), in addition to China and Russia.

North Korea
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines

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Samir Amin

Now that the dust is settled. Can we learn something from his theories?
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Why was soviet military technology so inferior despite the ballooned USSR military budget that rivaled one of US? Just look at F-14, F-15, F-16 and F-18. All were created during the middle of the cold war, yet shot down Soviet fighters with ridiculous KDs.
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Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge

Just finished reading Pol Pot's Monarchy or Democracy (https://www.marxists.org/archive/pol-pot/1952/00001.htm), from this work and from what I know about him pre-1970s he seemed very promising, what the fuck went wrong?
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The Cultural Revolution was good, right? To what extent could amerika undergo a similar situation, and is it undergoing such a thing right now?

To a certain extent I feel we can say it is, but only the beginning. If the acceleration of technocapital is the workers' revolution, that is, the forces of production have gone for the revolution on their own and left humanity in the dust, "woke capital" can be said to be the cultural element of the "Revolution". My only fear is that this is the end, not the beginning. Otherwise, a Capitalism which ruins the lives of democrats and liberals who use "ableist slurs" like "st*pid". Certainly the toxic male industrial complex of "resisters" being sent to re-education camps (gulags) to break rocks and learn Foucault is good right? Clearly the Revolution will be guided by identity, regardless of how much you commies don't like it, so how can we ensure the most radicalism? That is, avoid Capital becoming trapped in corporate identity politics and actually accelerate a radical identitarianism?

How can we ensure that the result is millions of amerikans being ruined for not respecting plural-pronouns, (unironically) otherkin, and hyper-decolonization? How do we send the whites back to Europe, unironically?

Where is leftpol but for postmodernists?
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Why the fuck were so many prominent NeoCons trotskyists?

.jpg relevant
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Will we ever reach a point where technology/mass urbanization will make breaking the law and getting away virtually impossible?
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Hitler-Stalin contract

Lately I've gotten into an argument with a friend of mine about the USSR's role in WW2, especially the splitting up of Poland. He argues that the USSR collaborated with nazi germany in taking over Poland and also started resisting the bazi war effort way too late.
What do you think? Can the USSR be blamed for the nazis taking over half of Poland? What sources exist that point out the USSR's special role in fighting nazi germany?
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Lefties swallowed up by NGOs - two case studies and commentary from Eastern-Europe

Person A
>humanities student in university thought to be very talented by her professors
>has great presentation skills and charisma
>gets pregnant to random dudebro
>career basically fucked by child rearing
>dudebro pushes her into old fashioned patriarchal relationship:
<I'm the provider, you cook, clean, raise babby, sometimes I give you spending money, fucky time when I feel like it, TV+beer+dinner for me when I get back from work
>she slowly realizes that she's stuck in slavery with a few extra steps (you know the deal)
>messy divorce follows
>desperately tries to use connections to find a job, gets a Soros Foundation (Open Society) job
>uses her still bitter memories from her ex to fuel her sense of social justice
Few years later
>wrecks the campaign of a socdem party offering to show her tits publicly in exchange for signatures in the media against the wishes of said party
>hosts idpol-heavy podcast where they allude to Marxism as one of the other series of "isms" (feminism, socialism, liberalism, progressivism, etc.ism) while obviously not having read jack shit from either school of thought
>leaves the country and moves to Brussels joining another Soros NGO whose mission statement is to protect Eastern-Euro "sex workers" while in fact being a sex-trafficking organization, offering to take care of the paperwork of said women to ease their transitioning into Netherlands' red districts

Person B
>dad is a famous movie director whose movies main focus was social issues in the Eastern bloc, a kind of social-justice oriented left anti-communism, and BTW financed and green lighted by the Actually Existing Socialist (AES) government
>regime change happens, daddy moves further right, naturally
>Person B grows up, realizes that this capitalism thing sucks ass
>feels an urge to "one up" daddy
>uses his legacy as heir to daddy to get his first $3.3k injection from above mentioned Soros org to set up a media network on Youtube (significant amount of cash in this country)
>starts a Youtube channel, buys gear, hires a cameraman with the money, titles his channel "phlegm" which focuses on investigative reporting on the right-wing government
>does a decent job to out right-wing bullshit
>right winger calls him "faggot" in the media
>sues him, wins the case getting more $$$ that he re-injects into his company
Few years later
>comes out openly as gay
>re-brands his channel as "Partisan" while being no more than a succdem with vague anti-capitalist sentiments (lol)
>becomes financially self-sustaining via Patreon
>his "left wing" guests are always also anti-communists, his questions as host always include parts that make sure that the guests can detail the "horrors" of AES
>has a major scandal not long ago, wherein some right-winger identifies the Limited Edition Nike™ shoes the dude is wearing which costs about the average monthly wage of a worker in this country
>his latest vid is about how 12 poor gipsies get evicted from their homes, gets record number of downvotes
>turns out his metropolitan liberal following is racist as fuck, lol

cont. with my commentary
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Amazon and Markets

I have a theory about how Amazon could destroy capitalism from within. Because no one will publish my Unabomber-tier ramblings I'm posting it here.

Fuck tl;drs but the thesis is that from a historical materialist perspective Amazon's business model creates competition against the market itself as a means of facilitating transactions. Therefore it puts up a threat to the market itself, creating a contradiction within the market that created it that is analogous to a metastatic cancer growth opposing and overtaking the body which it grew from.

Amazon is frequently touted as a wild success story for capitalism. An unassailable trillion dollar market valued corporate superpower, Amazon lacks even the ghost of a competitor and its business model has essentially become running much of the modern economy. I wish to tell a different story. Rather than a success story, however, Amazon spells the doom of capitalism. It represents an inflection point at which all the converging forces of digital efficiency, automation and algorithmic optimization, economies of scale and the tendency of markets to consolidate into monopolies turns capitalism inside out from within. Amazon by itself calls for a new economic theory and a fresh reinterpretation of capitalist economics. Like a metastatic cancer, Amazon will eat capitalism from within, replicating until it replaces all tissues with its own likeness.
Central to this view of Amazon is that it virtualizes the free market within a centrally planned and organized revenue capture funnel. Different sellers are allowed to put their goods up on Amazon, and with respect to seller versus seller, they may compete by price point or product quality with the others in a simulation of market competition. All of these transaction however are facilitated, controlled and taxed by Amazon, who plays the role of a surrogate state regulating its virtual market. Amazon’s virtualization of the market is further compounded by the fact that it sells nearly everything. Unlike previous monopolies, it does not corner a market, it corners *the* market. It provides the most efficient means for allocating commodities ever conceived, providing a centralized and well-supported delivery fulfillment logistics network that does a better job than thousands of small, disconnected and single-product or limited selection online retailers. The totality of Amazon’s selections however is not a byproduct of it outcompeting competitors, but by its very nature only one central source could achieve the level of scale that permits it to contain the full scope of goods and to deliver them on such a scope. There can only be one market within a market; markets themselves do not compete, only the market participants active within it. It is theoretically impossible to compete with Amazon at scale, because two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time without being identical. And to compete with Amazon is to do what it does, but there is only one planet therefore there can be only one global universal retailer.
Amazon also benefits from data feedback loops which reinforce its business hegemony. It collects data on every transaction to make its algorithms more efficient. No other potential competitor can benefit from such a data trove.
Because Amazon specializes in selling everything, it has the most diversified portfolio conceivable. Unlike an oil company or any company specializing in the sale of a particular product, Amazon’s market is the market. It has a viable business model until the day that people stop wanting to buy anything. Is is not susceptible to fluctuations, the up and down price of oil, the cost of lumber. It encompasses all commercial possibilities.
Because of this near universal reach however, Amazon is in a unique position where it has a monopoly not only over all retailers, but over the entire commodities market. The market consists of a set of various companies who are incentivized to put their products on Amazon in order to reach Amazon’s massive customer base. Yet once they do so, they are then playing by Amazon’s rules and captured within its virtual market. If they refuse Amazon, they are still caught within its shadow: unable to reach a substantial customer base because the the bulk of it goes to Amazon. And indeed, the massive sweep of closures for brick and mortar retail stores is a direct consequence of Amazon’s cancerous effect on the free market. It drains the life out of the diversified real market and uses it to strengthen its own relentless replication.
Such total annihilation is not healthy competition but a kind of economic genocide. These smaller retailers were not even within range of Amazon. They were casualties of it because they *participated on the market which Amazon is cannabalizing*. They are competitors with Amazon to the extent that retail *as a market* is considered a valid competitor, rather than retailer versus retailer. Thus Amazon has completely upended the notion of competition within free markets by creating its own internal market system to challenge the real market.
Amazon’s tendency to consume capitalism from within is also evident in its diversification into its highly profitable cloud computing enterprise, groceries and entertainment. Most notably is its cloud platform. Amazon Web Services is to the cloud computing space what Amazon proper is to retail. It sucks in all subordinate online businesses and conforms it to its optimized model, providing pre-fabricated technical infrastructure that services >33% of the cloud space, meaning that >33% of the *entire digital economy* is reliant on Amazon as a middleman. Once again Amazon’s cloud computing business is evidence of its supreme control and domination of the market as a concept. It profits by essentially providing the means for the digital market to function. It therefore ropes all of the market into its dominion.
While Amazon does have competitors in the cloud computing space, it’s closest competitor, Google, is merely another kind of information behemoth exhibiting Amazon-like tendencies, but whose domain is restricted to computational abstractions rather than real world goods. This fundamental difference is a complete departure in terms of the dimensionality of their business. Google reigns in the one dimensional world of information streams, Amazon in three.
What is the final outcome of Amazon’s unstoppable ascendancy? It may be too much to assume that an anemic, bought out and corporate friendly US government will break it up. Amazon at one point, and may still, host the government’s own web services. The alternative is that the inevitable logic of its growth model continues to suffocate the rest of the market, as its self-investing and expanding initiatives enable to spread ever outward into other markets and assimilate them. The logical extrapolation of this trend is that Amazon will *replace* the market or that it will somehow be resisted. It is inconceivable in the present conditions that Amazon would be toppled from within the market as it was once thought . There may be some theoretical limit to which a business can expand, however, this limit must be vast, especially for a technology company that leverages rapid processing and big data to its advantage and therefore avoids certain spatiotemporal constraints on its decision making and allocation processes.
The final conclusion here is that Amazon’s business model is the consumption of capitalism as we know it and the Borg-like assimilation of it into its coordinated nexus. Thus, from a classical Marxist perspective, Amazon is a symptom of capitalism generating its own self-defeating contradictions from within its own paradigm. Ultimately if trends continue, it will either be Amazon or capitalism. At which point, it may become neither.
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News 5/3/21

Peru Leftist Candidate Pledges to Seize Foreign Company Profits
Peruvian presidential front-runner Pedro Castillo said he’ll review contracts with transnational companies in an effort to increase onshore wealth. In a debate with Keiko Fujimori ahead of the June 6 runoff, leftist Castillo said multinationals should expect to leave 70% of their profits in Peru.

Colombia’s president withdraws tax reform after protests
Colombian President Ivan Duque said on Sunday he would withdraw a proposed tax reform after deadly protests and widespread lawmaker opposition, though he insisted a reform is still necessary to ensure fiscal stability.

Communist-led alliance sweeps to victory in Kerala with increased majority
The LDF, a coalition of left-wing parties including the CPI-M, the Communist Party of India and the Indian National League, stormed to victory, leading in 98 seats in the 140 seat assembly, up from the 91 elected in 2016.

Stalin fulfills political destiny, comes to power in Indian state assembly elections
After votes were counted on Sunday, it emerged that the DMK-led Secular Progressive Alliance – a political coalition of left-leaning parties, including India’s two major communist parties – defeated the incumbent ruling All India Anna Dravida Munnetra Kazhagam party, which is a regional member of Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s right-wing National Democratic Alliance.

Brazilian Amazon released more carbon than it absorbed over past 10 years
The Brazilian Amazon released nearly 20% more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere over the past decade than it absorbed, according to a startling report that shows humanity can no longer depend on the world’s largest tropical forest to help absorb manmade carbon pollution.

Mexico’s Indigenous Zapatistas Are Planning to Invade Spain by Boat, Kind Of
A Zapatista delegation plans to travel across the Atlantic Ocean by boat and arrive in Spain before August 13, the date that the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan, which is now Mexico City, fell to the Spanish conquistadors in 1521.

North Korea warns US of 'very grave situation' after Biden's 'big blunder' in speech to Congress
"It is certain that the US chief executive made a big blunder in the light of the present-day viewpoint," Kwon continued. "We will be compelled to press for corresponding measures, and with time the US will find itself in a very grave situation."

G7 to consider mechanism to counter Russian 'propaganda', UK's Raab says
Speaking ahead of a G7 foreign ministers' meeting in London, the first such in-person meeting for two years, Raab said the United Kingdom was "getting the G7 to come together with a rapid rebuttal mechanism" to counter Russian misinformation.

Stand up to China and Putin? Foreign policy at heart of Germany vote
“The clarity with which the Greens now talk about sanctions against Russia – including a stop of Nord Stream 2 – and position themselves on China is remarkable,” said Ralf Fücks, a former Green politician who heads the Centre for Liberal Modernity thinktank.

Manchester United fans storm stadium in protest of U.S. owners before Liverpool match
Long-running anger against the American owners has boiled over after they were part of the failed attempt to take United into a European Super League. Supporters have been kept out of games due to the coronavirus pandemic.
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How did capitalism fuck up your hobby

How did capitalism fuck up your hobby ?
For me :
- summary on the back replaced by praise by critics
- cool cover art replaced by actors
- way too expensive legal ebooks


- game as service bullshit killing community driven aspect of multiplayer games
- also has side effect of reduced technical quality as instead of passionate people paying their server, its a cost saving variable entirely controlled by the publisher
- also kills modding
- f2p bullshit placing artificial frustrations to get money
- rushed releases, bugged shit never fixed because dev are set to work on adding features instead
- so much money in marketing rather than developing
- consoles caused many games to be redesigned around and for them, downgrading experience on average
- fucking exclusives
- fucking overpriced DLCs
- godlike series ran into the ground/rebooted as souless cashgrabs


- capeshit everywhere
- so many good artist that do capeshit to make end's meet

>TV show

- awesome shows get cancelled (firefly, the brink…)
- awesome shows driven into the ground because profit > quality (GoT)


- they raped indiana jones and star wars
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Books on anarchism from a ML perspective? I want a good laugh.
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On Islam (and any other traditional ideologies)

Read before you delete please.
Why do people here shill for the least egalitarian religion? I'm not saying there weren't based Muslims, but this religion is fundamentally at odds with everything socialism is trying to achieve. Men and women are not equal, the religion itself is extremely conservative, the religion is treated as a distinct ideology that ranks above all others by those who practice it. I know there are socialist groups in turkey and Kurdistan but many of the people in these groups are atheists. I just don't see how people can be infavor of any religion that expresses its own social and economic goals that fly in the face of reason and progress.
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Generation Zyklon

Why did the Generation Zyklon meme turn out to be BS? It looks like zoomers are the same or even more leftist than millennials. How the fuck did the righoids ever convince themselves that the zyklon meme was true?
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I will be first to admit I'm not too well versed in ML theory but I have a basic grasp of it. A lot of the ML's I see around here seem to generally agree on one thing most, which is economic planning being an essential part of socialism. Me personally I'm an anarchist but I can see the need of having dedicated distribution networks for allocations of resources. What do ML's think of democracy in this process of economic planning, and maybe making it more decentralized?
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Can you be a communist if you've only read The Phenomenology of Spirit but haven't touched The Science of Logic? Just wondering how much Hegel I have to read before I can be confident in my beliefs.
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>Pentagon tells Burger masses what to think
<Burgers actually listen
>Liberal media tells Burgers they need to care about [X] “dictator” in [X country they’ve never heard of] and we need to “intervene to stop it”
<The Burgers actually care and support intervention
Has there ever been a group of people so childishly easy to manipulate since the fortunate passing of the retarded masses in Ancient Rome?
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News 4/28/21

France arrests seven Italians convicted of far-left terrorism
Seven Italian far-left guerrilla fighters, who hid in France for decades after escaping terrorism convictions that left “an open wound” in Italy, have been arrested. French authorities are also searching for three other Italians convicted on terrorism charges linked to bombings and assassinations between the late 1960s and early 1980s.

Man convicted in neo-Nazi Golden Dawn party loses EU immunity
European Union lawmakers voted Tuesday to lift the immunity of a Greek far-right member of the European Parliament who has been sentenced to 13 years in prison in Greece for being a leading member of a criminal organization. The European Parliament voted 658-24, with 10 abstentions, to remove Ioannis Lagos’s parliamentary protection, paving the way for Belgian authorities to extradite him to Greece.

Northern Ireland’s first minister and DUP leader Arlene Foster quits after internal party revolt
Foster will step down as DUP leader on May 28 and as first minister by the end of June, she confirmed in a written statement on Wednesday, following days of speculation about her position. She said it had been the “privilege of my life” to serve the people of Northern Ireland and that she wanted to give the party space to make arrangements for the election of a new leader.

US fires shots at Iranian ships in Persian Gulf
AUS WARSHIP fired warning shots at three Iranian speedboats that came close to a patrol in the Persian Gulf, the navy confirmed on Tuesday. It said that US naval vessels “retain the inherent right to act in self-defence” after the incident, which took place in international waters in the northern stretch of the Gulf on Monday.

Iraq: Dozens of pro-PKK protesters detained in Kurdish region, some beaten
"Fifty-four protesters were arrested during a rally in Sulaymaniyah" on Sunday by Kurdish security forces in the south of the autonomous northern Iraqi region, Mohammed Abdallah, head of the Movement for the Freedom of Kurdistan Society, told AFP. Abdallah, whose party is close to the PKK, said that some of those arrested were subjected to "violence, beatings and insults by the police".

Colombian Police Repress Workers On Strike Against Tax Reform
"The Mobile Anti-riot Squadron (ESMAD) is cracking down on peaceful protesters with blows and tear gas bombs. The government must stop police brutality and respect the people's right to demonstrate," Senator Ivan Cepeda tweeted.

Venezuelan Parliament to debate special economic zones law
In recent statements to Hinterlaces website, the Venezuelan lawmaker and economist highlighted the objective of creating a new national economic system, beyond dependence on oil exports, moving towards diversification and boosting new production chains.

US weighs policy on Venezuela as Maduro signals flexibility
In the past two weeks, Maduro conceded to longstanding U.S. demands that the World Food Program be allowed to establish a foothold in the country at a time of growing hunger. His allies also vowed to work with the U.S.-backed opposition to vaccinate Venezuelans against the coronavirus and have met with diplomats from Norway trying to revive negotiations to end the country’s never-ceasing political strife.

Corbyn join rent strikers and cleaners at rally against LSE's ‘indifference’ to their struggles
RENT strikers joined forces with cleaners today to hold a rally against a London university’s “indifference” to their struggles. Former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn was among the speakers who addressed the protest outside the London School of Economics (LSE), attended by hundreds of students and staff.

Richard Pusey: Australian jailed for filming dying officers
"There you go. Amazing, absolutely amazing," he said, according to vision from the constable's body-worn camera which was tendered to a court. "All I wanted was to go home and have some sushi," he added, before using expletives to blame the officers for ruining his Porsche sports car.
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what is the explanation behind australian troops beign,,well like this.
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Will prostitution be allowed in the socialist society?
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its been over a year now,can you sum up why he did it?
i heard the reason was because muslims in sweden ran over a deaf girl so he decided to murder muslims all the way in newzealand as a revenge,but how do you come to that conclusion?
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what comedian do you like /leftypol/ ?
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What even IS capitalism?

More often than not, I find capitalism conflated with free-markets on either sides.
It is like no one knows what capitalism is or can agree on a definition.

The definition I am aware of is that capitalism is when the means of production are not just privately owned, but have those industries be funded by the capital market. Via debt. The capitalist class would expect a return, some profit, because they funded the company which owes them now. Those people who fund via debt in capital markets are the capitalist class. It is obvious that the capitalist class, in this sense, are only funding those projects for profit.
Sure, they helped the company/business/whatever startup, but they are just leeching off of it afterwards.

Why are free-markets conflated with usury, debt, and other cronyism by the capitalist class?
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Okay you pretentious nerds. Tell me how to get into Hegel.

What should I read prior to him (the minimum please) and in what order should I read Hegel‘s work.
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May Day 2021 and the global class struggle
>We are publishing here the text of the opening report to the 2021 International Online May Day Rally delivered by David North.


There is a difference between listening to a great oration and calmly reading its transcription. David North's May Day address is no exception. Reflecting on his words brings out the connections between the historical and present struggles of the international working class.

The immediate conditions may be different but the methods of the capitalist class have not changed in 100 years. Their "solution" to economic crisis is dictatorship and war! As each milestone in the progression of the Covid-19 pandemic is reached: 1000 dead, 10,000 dead, 100,000 dead, …, the demands of the capitalists becoming deafening: "Reopen the economy! Reopen the schools! More funding for the military!" And now the incessant drum beat for war against China and Russia.

No sane person can ignore the disconnect from the actual conditions under the pandemic and the proposed "solution" from the capitalist class. Their logic defies logic. It is anti-science and the worship of money to the detriment of all values of human decency.

As Trotsky and North have urged; to the insanity of the global capitalist system workers must juxtapose their own solution: that of revolutionary socialism. The call for the formation of new international organs of class struggle must be heeded. The parliamentary parties, the media, the unions and all other institutions of capitalist rule must be outnumbered, overturned and replaced by workers organizations under democratic control and public ownership. The 21st century belongs to the working class and not to 2750 billionaires.
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brain chip lacrimosa

the left really need to take a stance on technology that doesn't default to the freefall of capitalist liberalism that is taking us all down with it. real regulations on technology and social media that allow us to maintain stability and enjoyment in society. I'm not some tyrannical social engineer here either, I am just a concerned human. we are becoming more unfree every time we go on twitter or watch random youtube videos. is there anyone who is sane and healthy who disagrees that we need to stop spending so much time in the fake digital world?
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>No fun allowed
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ITT we discuss practical examples of overpopulation. It's already an established fact that GDP per capita can be used to measure the standard of living in a country. You can compare standards of living based on population and you'll find a trend, higher population always = lower GDP per capita. Russia GDP per capita is $11,585 with GDP nominal of $1.7 trillion and population of 144.4 million. Compared to China which has a GDP per capita of $10,261, GDP nominal of $14.34 trillion and population of 1.398 billion. You can do this with any country and the results would be the same.

GDP nominal measures the overall value generated by a country, so despite having more money as a whole, China still has about the same standard of living as Russia. And this is solely as a result of population.

It would be like if we had $500 here and wanted to throw a party, but there were 50 of us. And on bunkerchan they had the same money but there were 25 of them, who do you think would enjoy that money more? Us or Bunkerbros?
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How do I deradicalize myself?

Whats up faggots, I used to an unironic nazi and while on a rational level I have realized there is no conspiracy of da joos working to fuck white people over (even if they are overrepresented in the media and in fields that fuck over the working class) my lizard brain is having a much harder time stopping the anti-semitism. I even have working class jewish friends now so I know its all bullshit, but I'll click a link to some inane idpol nonsense I see on stupidpol, see the authors name, and if it's jewish author (after several years of being an anti-semite I've gotten very good at identifying jews by phenotype as well as name) will always be
>fucking jews
Even while I rationally know the stupidity is caused by liberalism, not judiaism. Really though this doesn't just apply idpol culture war bullshit, whenever I have a negative experience with a jew online or irl, anti-semitism is the first thing my brain goes to. How the fuck do stop this and deplorable myself, I dont want to be like this anymore.
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Stalin was a dicta-
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Blinding laser weapons

Hahahahaha blinding cascade generator fills entire room it's fired into.

You can shoot this into building through the windows or door and blind everyone inside for life.
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European Super League

The top clubs in England, Spain and Italy have signed up to form a European Super League in a shameless attempt to chase more dollarydoos.
Being spearheaded by mostly American billionaire owners.
Rumours of salary caps, draft systems and playing at neutral venues in America and the Middle East.
FIFA and UEFA going apeshit, threatening to ban anyone playing in it.
Unironically causing the most anti-capitialist/anti-globalisation sentiment i've seen in a long time.

If they force this through will there be happenings?
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Repeating Lenin

All of you need to read this

>One is therefore tempted to turn around Marx’s thesis 11: the first task today is precisely NOT to succumb to the temptation to act, to directly intervene and change things (which then inevitably ends in a cul de sac of debilitating impossibility: “what can one do against the global capital?”), but to question the hegemonic ideological coordinates. If, today, one follows a direct call to act, this act will not be performed in an empty space — it will be an act WITHIN the hegemonic ideological coordinates: those who “really want to do something to help people” get involved in (undoubtedly honorable) exploits like Medecins sans frontiere, Greenpeace, feminist and anti-racist campaigns, which are all not only tolerated, but even supported by the media.

>This kind of activity provides the perfect example of interpassivity: of doing things not to achieve something, but to PREVENT from something really happening, really changing. All the frenetic humanitarian, politically correct, etc., activity fits the formula of “Let’s go on changing something all the time so that, globally, things will remain the same!”

Purge yourselves of liberalism immediately, remember Communism is a positive movement.
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Declining Reproductive health


According to scientists industrial chemicals and plastics are reducing worldwide fertility and it's also making the kids dumb. Sperm is declining

Is this true? Is this like Rome 2.0 where the kids were stupid because of lead?
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Waco Anniversary

Today is the 26th anniversary of the Waco siege. Just a reminder of what will happen if you try to organize.
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Why do people seethe over social security and other welfare programs? The main people who actually seethe over this shit are usually working class right wingers who think that other people are stealing their hard work when in reality their work is being stolen by their boss. I literally have SNAP, Welfare, and Unenmployment and the people who get mad over this shit just make my free gibs/food even better
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Explain your political views

in one paragraph
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/leftybritpol/ - Vaccine bounce on deez nuts you stupid fuc

Last time on leftybritpol: >>152149
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OJ man vs SJWS

Can we agree that the "Social justice warriors" were actually mostly right?

In the mid 2010s there was a huge backlash against radical liberalism aka SJWs. I participated in this, though mostly as an observer and occasional shitposter.

My question is this to /leftypol/ : How did OJ man, unironically, not prove SJWs at least partially right?

He lashed back against SJWs by becoming a literal caricature of everything they were complaining about: A rich white billionaire with a privileged upbringing who cruelly caged immigrant children, praised neo nazis at Charlottesville, etc. The Trump era literally proved all of their criticisms of America right. It even softened the hardline anti idpol stance of /leftypol/ . It's one thing to think about white supremacy in the abstract, but under Trump it was very much concrete. White supremacists weren't just something thrown around as an insult without teeth, they were literally marching in the streets, beating blacks, doing mass shootings in walmarts, churches, etc. I guess this even started in the late Obama era with Dylan Roof.

The point is Trump was both a product of and a contributor to a zeitgeist, what appeared to liberals (and many leftists) to be a moment of terrifying cultural backlash against social changes happening in America
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Was the agricultural revolution the biggest mistake of all human history?

>Private property arose

>The state arose
>Political despots
>Law as a system
>Degradation of women
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Louis Proyect

What is this asshole's deal? His website is called "The Unrepentant Marxist," and he regularly gets published at CounterPunch, but all he does is call left podcasters fascists and accuse Max Blumenthal of being an Assadist.
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Flags and Normalfags

Post a flag. Predict how local people will react to flags ITT if it were hoisted atop a local small business.

Political flags, national flags, anything.
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Liberal Hate Thread

go to redd, come back with a quote or picture that makes you want to enact the final solution to the liberal problem in Europa Universalis IV.

>I think people underestimate how important it is when the president says the words. These aren't off-the-cuff comments, they're declarations. I've been waiting my whole adult life to hear a president say those words with earnest conviction.

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The true meaning of "Let despair strengthen you"

1) All existence is either despair that ultimately kills the ego or despair that strengthens those egos it is unable to kill.
2) It is good that the ego is strengthened.
C) Therefore, let despair strengthen you.

Ever since we've arrived here, we have read and seen only despair. The climate question, the immiseration and degradation of the working class, imperialism, COVID - it's all despair. Yet in the true style of students of philosophy, hearing and reading about it has forced us to learn about them, to know about them and thus to become wiser - wisdom is a strength of its own.

Particular elements of affiliated movements would have you drown in despair. The bourgeois elements of Extinction Rebellion would have you believe the escalation of the climate crisis will see the the physical end of civilization. Lesser read, theory-deficient elements, would have you believe that at the end of reaction, there is only reaction or a true immiseration, a true despair from which there is only no recovery, post-nuclear hell from which humans must collapse into utter oblivion.

The problem with these apocalyptisms (climate extinction, nuclear holocaust, general collapse) is that they are the most twisted form of hope - you want an end to your struggle, so you dare to hope that it may end. Yet as far as human history has gone on, it has only confirmed that there is no end to struggle after any collapse. The destruction of the Bronze Age civilizations saw the destruction of the old palace economies, the fall of the Western Roman Empire begat feudalism, recovery of Europe after the Black Death begat proto-capitalism. And out of the totally dire straits of WWI, with the collapse of the Russian Empire, the October Revolution came into being.

There is only one true end from which there can be no recovery that is hypothesized to be possible - heat death, which nonetheless is a form of victory in that all photons become equal.

Do not hope for the end for it shall none come soon. Let despair strengthen you.
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China 2050

Ok what's the likelihood of china becoming a "fully democratic great socialist state" by 2050 is there any evidence it could happen and if there is could you show it.
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I've never heard of the MOVE bombing before holy shit. Did the gov't really drop a fucking bomb on these people?
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Is he as big as an idiot as people often make him out to be. His antisemitism is inexcusable but I feel like people overlook him because of it. His criticism of religion being an inherently an authoritarian belief is pretty on point. Secondly he shows that anarchists not inherently against authority. He also agreed with Marx on the nature of capitalism and praised his Das Kapital as being very good.

<M. Karl Marx, the illustrious leader of German Communism, justly observed in his magnificent work "Das Kapital" [2] that if the contract freely entered into by the vendors of money -in the form of wages - and the vendors of their own labor -that is, between the employer and the workers - were concluded not for a definite and limited term only, but for one's whole life, it would constitute real slavery.

<Does it follow that I reject all authority? Far from me such a thought. In the matter of boots, I refer to the authority of the bootmaker; concerning houses, canals, or railroads, I consult that of the architect or engineer. For such or such special knowledge I apply to such or such a savant. But I allow neither the bootmaker nor the architect nor the savant to impose his authority upon me. I listen to them freely and with all the respect merited by their intelligence, their character, their knowledge, reserving always my incontestable right of criticism censure. I do not content myself with consulting authority in any special branch; I consult several; I compare their opinions, and choose that which seems to me the soundest. But I recognize no infallible authority, even in special questions; consequently, whatever respect I may have for the honesty and the sincerity of such or such an individual, I have no absolute faith in any person. Such a faith would be fatal to my reason, to my liberty, and even to the success of my undertakings; it would immediately transform me into a stupid slave, an instrument of the will and interests of others.

< What is authority? Is it the inevitable power of the natural laws which manifest themselves in the necessary concatenation and succession of phenomena in the physical and social worlds? Indeed, against these laws revolt is not only forbidden — it is even impossible. We may misunderstand them or not know them at all, but we cannot disobey them; because they constitute the basis and fundamental conditions of our existence; they envelop us, penetrate us, regulate all our movements, thoughts, and acts; even when we believe that we disobey them, we only show their omnipotence.

Yes, we are absolutely the slaves of these laws. But in such slavery there is no humiliation, or, rather, it is not slavery at all. For slavery supposes an external master, a legislator outside of him whom he commands, while these laws are not outside of us; they are inherent in us; they constitute our being, our whole being, physically — intellectually, and morally: we live, we breathe, we act, we think, we wish only through these laws. Without them we are nothing, we are not. Whence, then, could we derive the power and the wish to rebel against them?


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WTF is up with their shitty Myanmar takes?
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Dear all raiders, why can't we just be friends and be positive to one another? Why do you choose to raid? Can we not all just be friends, at least, in this thread? Abstain from calling people the N-Word and other slurs. Let's just be friends guys. I want to make bridges with my gay, straight, white, black, Muslim, Christian, communist, nazi, American, European brothers and sisters and not walls!
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Ernst Thälmann Love Thread

Thread for the best anti-fascist in history.
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Were these the first fascists?
>hard right-wing
>came from the petit-bourgeoisie
>posed a threat to bourgeois democracy, but cynically employed by it to intimidate working-class populsim with street violence
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The leftist prepper thread

As you may have certainly noticed, late stage Capitalism is upon. Conditions globally are degrading, and the people are getting restless due said lacking conditions.
But many do not understand the upcoming cataclysm that is upon us. Leftists of the world, do not underestimate this upcoming cataclysm. This cataclysm is not just a single event, but a series of devastating ones that occur at a increasingly faster pace over the course of potentially centuries.
Climate change, technology advanced warfare, potentially nuclear armageddon, and many more devasting events are expected.

No nation, no organization, no people, no person is fully prepared for what is coming. If we were, we'd all be living in fortress arcologies by now,. But we are entirely vulnerable to all the elements of this cataclysm.
The majority of Academic experts have generally agreed that upcoming events that shadows our future is certainly one that could end our current global civilization. Entire cities will be destroyed, and whole regions will be rendered uninhabitable. There will certainly be global chaos. I expect by 2030 (or probably sooner) that our world shall look radically different than now.

This does not mean there is no hope. While we won't be able to prepare as best as possible (because we already have failed that), we can at least take away some of the impact this cataclysm will cause on us and our communities.
Should we do this, we should have a better grasp of control in our environments, and be in a better position to stop (and not just resist) Capitalist opposition. This will also allow us to be less reliant on having to search for skilled members of society when civilization enters this upcoming chaotic age.

This will require developing up our current skill sets and developing new ones, along with stocking up resources and creating a better relationship with the communities that surround us. However, we must consider the fact that we live in a Capitalist society, which makes resource acquisition for the above very difficult.

Said resource acquisition shall be the main topic:
"How can the working class prep"

Topics such as scavenging, foraging, and community development is very welcome.
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political correctness

what IS political correctness? is it just "progress" like the libs would have us think? and if that's the case then how does PC persist in the face of the same issues we've always had like war and exploitation? now i'm not being rhetorical here, i am very interested in what this is all about. i understand that the intellectual/theory side of things since the 60s has become much about language and discourse and this has undoubtedly influenced the creation of political correctness, so is PC just another part of the leftist tradition? i know there are anti-pc leftists but can we really say that it is secretly the right that is promoting this stuff? i dont think so.

A CEO can preach about "equality" while taking millions in profits so if it is a "weapon" that any people here support it doesn't seem very effective in bringing down capitalism. has the left simply taken a wrong turn along the way or is it something else?
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Which communism is the best communism?
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How Do Soc-Dems Cope?

How Does one get this utterly and completely cucked and still believe as though they voted for
>"The Lesser of Two Evils"
Biden has litterally done EVERYTHING Trump did for which these reddit liberals labeled him a
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Every time some "anti-PC left" person throws a fit over some "SJW" poster, I get a window into that world, and I think about how idly tempted I'd be to pull the sad Internet equivalent of the Night of the Long Knives, just for fun, if I were some far-right Internet pundit. The only reason the "anti-PC left" squawk-box is allowed to exist by the far right, on which it's utterly dependent, is because it's inconsequential as an alternate voice and as lockstep as any other tiny right-wing micro-faction when numbers are mustered for harassment campaigns. There would be pretty much no risk to any individual far-right figure in smashing it that I can see, and maybe some day, someone will, for no reason other than boredom or someone humiliated them in front of their followers with a reply or something like that.

Like: if one (1) big far-right Twitter / YouTube / etc. account and a couple of its hangers-on said, "I see some of my fans out there okaying people who say anti-racism is bad but also they say they're socialists or 'post-left' or things like that, turn on them immediately, those people need to be isolated, doxxed and hounded off every public channel, you need to stop following them and start harassing people who still do," it would happen overnight, because racist reactionary loner-dweebs are ~80-90% of the fan base of the 'anti-PC left'. Look at those pseudo-left people's followers, and look at who else they follow. It's all anti-socialist, far-right kooks that vastly outnumber and outclass the pseudo-left clique. That's the "authoritarian personality" such as it is online nowadays, the follower-types are insecure enough to okay anything that reminds them vaguely of themselves, given how zero-effort it is to click a little icon next to the message—until their social superiors direct them to do otherwise. Then, they risk losing their seat at the lunch table in the virtual high-school cafeteria if they don't comply. So they turn and fall upon each other. It's not exactly a new phenomenon on the far right, of course, but it's still there in full force.

You could see that play out a couple years ago in the midst of the uncomfortable realignment of the edge-lord U.S. far right with militant Zionism, right before the angrily anti-Zionist part of it, the aging ZOG-conspiracy-theorist U.S. far right that had play-acted at stuff like support for Wahabbist extremism, was finally pulled down and mostly subsumed by the opportunist, racist-anti/philosemitic, anti-Islam/pro-Likud group that saw themselves reflected in the Trump administration. The last gasp of the old-school "ZOG"-fighter faction was to declare Trump a betrayer for his support for an embassy in Jerusalem. What's interesting to me is that most of their peers didn't pay any attention to that argument… and it still successfully kicked off a ZOG witch-hunt among them, rooting out the far-right, white-supremacist-friendly online personalities who had e.g. Jewish wives, doxxing them and outing them to their larger social circles. It was just too easy to whistle to the average racist-reactionary Lonely Man Online and say in a good-doggie voice, "All right boy, find the Jews! Go get 'em!"

I keep drawing attention to things like this, because I still see a few stragglers on "the left", here and there, living in this paranoid fantasy where the far right has somehow "overcome" internal political divisions through some mystical organic quality, or, even more wrong, through some strategy "the left" should emulate. The truth is that the current far right's "unity" has barely ever been tested, imo because it's counterproductive to their deployment as street-fighting irregulars by federal, state & local police forces, with the cops usually doing their part in the moment to shore up the far-right instead of undermining it. Whenever that false far-right unity has faced duress that's even a fraction of what's famously used against left-wing groups—like the federal intelligence/security state cranking the pressure on, off, on, off, etc. for the far right around the 2020 election as best served its policy against Trump—the far right as a practical, physical presence has cracked and crumpled nearly immediately. It's a loose collection of groups with a wide base of support in the AmeriKKKan Heimat, but one that has been held together as a pseudo-coalition by the security state, or at least allowed to exist through careful and watchful neglect, for many years at this point. It doesn't have much defense against attacks-to-divide except to slide into the sewer and cower.
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"‘Bunkerchan’ Is Trying to Deradicalize Online Nazis"
(fucking paywalled so just use the Outline link)

WOW! I'm glad those Bunkerchan people are around to put a bullet in anything radical! Oh wait, not anymore.
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What compels people to be content with their wage slavery?
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Wasn't sure where to put this thread, because /b/ seems more of a shitposting board. The thread doesn't fit into /hobby/ or the other ones either in my opinion. If this isn't appropriate here, feel free to move it to another board.

This thread is meant to be a place to talk about our addictions and how to deal with them. Those addictions might be substances or behavioral addictions. Nicotine, alcohol, gambling, you name it. We can give each other advice on how to deal with them, share resources and make daily reports where we say for how long we managed to abstain from our addiction. In that case it would be proper to use nicknames in this thread, so people can trace back who is making their daily report, which puts slightly more pressure on the people participating. Accountability and such.

I struggle with porn addiction and I'm pretty tired of it. I'm tired of masturbating to videos on screen of other people having sex. I've been doing it for so long now; it's tiring but I can't stop. It's nauseating. So for this next month I will abstain from porn. I don't believe in NoFap, but I masturbate too often as well. So I will only masturbate every second day max. I'd like to reach the point where I only masturbate once a week. Doesn't have to be any longer than that.

April 30th. Day 0.
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Wage slavery and its consequences...

Minimum wage worker gets bullied by upper class client and he has a meltdown, while the client recorded everything (except for the part where he called him a "faggot", of course) for twitter clout.
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Leftypol has forgotten the truth, today I will remind them

1. The Soviet Union was the guiding light and possibly last hope for the human race, the revolutionary beacon that inspired hope and courage in the colonized people and class conscious proletarians all around the world while also inspiring fear, loathing, and envy in the ranks of the imperialist warmongers, bourgeois parasites, and those brainwashed workers and peasants held under the deceitful sway of their bourgeois rulers; and of course the Soviet Union and its socialist allies inspired great envy and hatred within those cowardly perfidious “leftists” who sought to split the proletariat while at the same time presenting neither a program nor strategy nor attempt at liberation

2. If socialism is the dawn of mankind’s true history then Marxism-Leninism is the burning red sun that lights the day and banishes the night
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🇧🇷 /brg/ Brasil General 🇧🇷
Football, favelas and fascism.
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Let's say your country was taken over by an insane law and order party that introduced draconian laws and surveillance and 95% of the population is either indifferent or supportive of the status quo because crime was bad before. How would you go about resisting? Do you just surender? Is there any hope for resistance at that point? Let's discuss
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Ecofascism is coming.

There is a budding romance and rediscovery of the concrete unity of utilitarian ideologies growing with the onset of class schisms within both liberal and conservative parties; The neoconservative “regime change” factions of the ruling class, and ecologistic Malthusian Bill Gates types, are finding a home in the genocidal Nihilism of modern Nazism. The Biden administration seems to be laying the groundwork for a “climate campaign” AGAINST China in order to justify regime change and they will play into the hands of both ecologist liberals (AOC, Greta Thurnberg, other GND Dems) and the online Nazi community commited to the genocide of non-white peoples. Political alliances will be reshifting against the old liberal-conservative dichotomy in order to counter the increasing furvor of the working class. “China’s climate change” will be the “Jewish Bolshevism” of the 20th century as Western capitalists become increasingly wary of China’s strength and growth relative to them and resort to any means necessary to stop it, just as they did with the Soviet Union during the Great Depression.
It’s important to note that Nazi anti-semitism was a utilitarian ideology, and premised itself on Orientalism, viewing Jews as “invaders of the East”. I pray for the Asian Immigrants in the west and what will happen to them as violence increases from both liberals and conservatives alike. Be wary and be vigilant.
Some liberals on this board are in denial about the Malthusianism behind the “climate concerns” of the ruling class, and even agree that China has committed some kind of “original sin” in this regard. They will become your enemies, just like your “liberal” friends who see a war against China as justified, or even noble.
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Engels believed Slaves have "Slave Privilege" in comparison to the proletariat

He argues that the institution of Slavery is a welfare system for the Slave, and thus states that they can "have a better existence than the proletarian," despite the Proletariat having a higher social status.
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Esoteric Hitlerism General: AFAP Edition (ALL FASCISTS ARE PEDOS)

This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.

To sum up, as it says in the title, this entire strand of thought is more or less an intelligence operation carried out mostly by pedophiles, with a strong satanic/ esoteric influence. On top of this, there are several interesting connections to these operations and operatives and Zionism.

The purpose of these operations, as are the purpose of all CIA operations, is to suppress and destroy the real movement that abolishes the present state of things, the mass movement organised workers, the socialist and communist movement.

What follows is a series of links, references and thoughts which document this feature of capitalist hegemony.

Link to last thread archive:


The thread from which it was born:


If anybody has the thread inbetween those archived that would be wonderful, all the info is copied into that first link but some of the discussion was good and bants.

Fresh Material courtesy of a Based Anon:



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Tomorrow Peru goes to the polls to choose the new head of state, members of congress and for the andean parlament. The elections have been unexpected to put it mildly, being the country with the worst handling of the pandemic (Acording to the Financial Times), and in the aftermath of the political crisis of the week of 3 presidents the people of Peru have to choose between 18 candidates, and as cherry-on-top there is a stalemate between 6 candidates (originally only one "leftwing" but the outsider came, and it came hard)
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On this day 64 years ago, Joseph McCarthy died from alcohol poisoning.
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OC Thread 8.0

Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.

OC Thread 4.0 >>8622
OC Thread 5.0 >>419177
OC Thread 7.0 >>956315
Unfortunately OC thread 6.0 was lost when we were raided by the chinless horde back in October

This is the place where you can find all leftypol memes n' shit
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==The Weakspot of the Far-right?==

So I read Far-right websites In order to develop strategy and tactics to better counter them, and to understand their worldview better. And one thing I noticed, which is a complete Blind spot of the Far-right, and that is to say a complete ignorance or dismissal of the Left. Let me elaborate by picking apart this article from the Influential Far-right rag Counter-currents.&#010;&#010;&gt;There are no Right-wing mainstream media in the USA and you wouldn’t get a job if you were even suspected of having conservative sympathies, particularly while white. Journalism has changed its requirements. &#010;&#010;So like all the Right-wingers, he starts by ranting about the politics of the Media while not realising that the media at best is center-left and at worst reactionary.&#010;&#010;&gt;However, the plot thickens. Although the media is almost entirely under the control of the Left and their new cultural Marxist commissars, all is not well in the camp. The traditional media have been in gradual decline for some time in terms of sales (and thus advertising revenue), and this is beginning to accelerate. Many newspapers have not found the transition to an online format an easy one to negotiate, and TV ratings for some of the major news providers are, if not exactly in freefall, then on a downward glide.&#010;&#010;What he says is true, however he's probably smacking his lips at all the people defecting to Alternate media which he imagines is staunchly right wing, now while that is partially true of YouTube other Alt media forms are mostly Leftist, like Podcasts, Twitch and certain Leftist Subreddits.&#010;&#010;&gt;It may be that consumers of news are becoming wary and weary of the new orthodoxies faithfully adhered to by journalists: the scriptural edicts of woke, constant anti-white rhetoric, globalism, LGBTQ, the sanctity of blackness, the COVID melodramatics, Islam and its many wonders (not so much the bombs and beheadings and so on), transgenderism and all the other grotesques at the Leftist carnival. The next year could be a defining moment in testing the credibility of the public across a hemisphere.&#010;&#010;So in his Worldview, the actual left is not present(Or dead as we shall see later).&#010;&#010;&gt;t’s fine and dandy to be a firebrand Leftist online writer, fighting for social justice, “equity,” and the recognition of systemic racism. But it must be somewhat deflating to realize that you agree with the government. Aren’t you supposed to be against The Man rather than sitting on his knee? So, the rogue gene in the DNA of the Left is the paucity of their vision. Their motivating ideologies, such as they are, are now complete. We know where the Left is going because they already got there. Thus far and no further. They can’t. They have nowhere to go. They have set out their stall with such precision there is no longer any room for progress.&#010;&#010;In this decaying neoliberal age, when all look for a new replacement order anti-establishment sentiment is very powerful, but here is the crux of the Far-rights blindness, they believe that it can only benefit them and that the Left(Cultural) has been fully co-opted, but they do not realise that the USA is still as imperialist as it was and anti-establishment sentiment belongs to the Left as much as the Right, As shown by the Evo coup.&#010;&#010;&gt;Stop me if you have heard this one before, but when Orwell (don’t worry; it’s not 1984) arrived in Spain to aid the fight against Franco, as chronicled in Homage to Catalonia, what appalled him in the first instance were not the appalling conditions or the slim chances of victory, but the squabbling and in-fighting between the supposed allies on the Communist side. Again, I have used this before, but it is a riff worth repeating, and Monty Python’s Life of Brian features briefly sums this up with the rift between the Judaean People’s Front and the People’s Front of Judea. The dissident Right is in a similar pickle, and for tawdry reasons.&#010;&#010;Finally we see that the historical Left is dead in his mind and dead in the water to the Far-right as a whole. But as opposed to falling, the old left is rising. &#010;&lt;Inb4 Idpol ,most Left wing spaces online have improved very much in that regard, with Pedro Castillo even r/Socialism gave him unquestioned support.&#010;&#010;In the final evaluation this weakness of believing that only they are capable of taking advantage of Anti-establishment sentiment, that their only enemies are liberals, that "cultural Marxists" are already in control, that they know almost nothing about actual Marxism and their elitism and disdain for politics that help people materially. Make the Far-Right very vulnerable to a growing Class-first Leftist movement

Anchored: Thread devolved into /pol/ induced shitposting after addressing the initial point.
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Why do the elites want to kill us?
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Fascism and The Promise of Obscene Enjoyment

I know Zizek can at times be what amounts to a rambling, unfocused, "pop" philosopher, but I think this point in particular holds up with almost concerning accuracy. Something that always perturbed me, even in the back of my mind when I was immersed in the far-right, was how everything was constructed in a way which provided implicit "permission" to things which would otherwise be abhorrent to those who claim to want a "polite" and "moral" society. Perverse pronouncements of the need to rape and mutilate, depictions of civilians hung and disemboweled if for no other reason then the pleasure of the perpetrators committing it, and a view of the future which has them indulging in all the tactile and sensory experiences denied to them. And there was this rush to it, this need to "feel" more to an almost fanatical and excessive degree, to get that next dopamine hit from it all. Even the concept of family wasn't ever viewed as the shouldering of a responsibility, but as if it were some kind of fantastical get away vacation in which all the encumbering but necessary weight of that responsibility were magically whisked away, and it was all wheat fields with attractive people and handsome housing, a world of a never stalling fantastical emotional sensation. Even aesthetics whittled down to pleasure, and everything eventually devolved into what was sensual and sensuous, but with words that obfuscated that reasoning into concepts that appeared on the surface to be more "noble" in their content, like the subject of war. I don't think I'm the only one formally on the right who eventually saw that already thin layer become thinner and thinner, and people becoming more forward in what they actually desired, the dishonesty and artificialness of it all. Like none of it is real, and its all just a "rush" from start to finish until the high runs out and you need something more to latch on to. I think eventually you either become disgusted in that "high" and jump off, or throw yourself down the rabbit hole further looking for more of it, until it surrounds and immerses you. Like its suffocating you, but you can't stop, because there are ghosts to chase at every corner and a high to catch hold of from it all.

Maybe I'm rambling a bit here, but its something that's always occupied me when thinking about or observing the phenomena that is the modern right. Even when reading parts of Goebbels, I can see it poking through.
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Hustle Culture

Is this the most pathetic thing right now? Actively pushed by Neoliberal governments and quite readily absorbed by a very loud, disgusting minority. There are in general two categories of hustlers.
>The wannabe Entrepreneur
This person is the saddest motherfucker ever. The hustle culture he attaches to his identity is a coping mechanism to distract from the fact, that he is just another prole from the poor uneducated masses he detests so much. Extremely class cucked, uses shit like "Well, I'll be a millionaire in the future, so yes I eternally suck the cocks of the bourgeoisie. Why do you ask?"
>The actual Hustler
Quite possibly the smartest (yet slimiest) person to exist. He figured out a way to fool thousands of class cucks to buy his 5,000$ dollar real estate course, which tells the absolutely fuckall ( and most definitely are written/conducted by him). Probably has a youtube channel, with millions of simps, who will defend you constantly, where you publish 3 minute videos talking about the "hustle muscle" and to "work smart not hard", yet vague enough to actually not say anything meaningful, devoid of any substance or applicable lifehacks.

Why? Why do these parasites exist?
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Policy Reminder

Reactionaries/Liberals are not permitted to derail threads–otherwise every thread devolves into the same argument. Rather, they are allowed to create a thread to argue their bullshit points.
Given the recent mention in a worldwide publication that millions are seeing, there will be an uptick in the number of these "debate me" threads. If this annoys you, sorry but it can be expected to die down shortly.
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1rs of May, day of the workers

Post in here everything that you gonna do this day, funny facts about it, soviet songs, /leftypol/ history, how the first of may is celebrated in your country or whatever the fuck you want.
This day I'm gonna go to a meeting by the PCTE in Barcelona, wish me luck. Gonna make some photos of the event so everyone of you can see it :D
If you wanna ask go ahead, I have a friend which has been longer on the party (precisely we're on the communist youth) and so on.
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Do you hate transhumanists, /leftypol/?
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Other than denominations, what are the philosophical differences between Jihadi and Persian islamic fundamentalism?
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Alt-Left:Red Painted Fascists

Do you tired of leftists who have weirdo or schizo or bad takes? Such as namefags like "King Lear" or "Leninhat" or Caleb Maupin and among others ?
There is a name for them:Alt-Left.An political position which can be described as left-wing that more closer to the far-right than centre which also blurs the line between left and far-right
> “The alt-Left is a unique phenomenon which attempts to blur the line between the far-Right and certain elements of the Left.” Regardless of other terms, alt-left seems to be the most convenient and well known shorthand for this distinct political current, the main characteristics of which are “distinguished mainly by a reactionary contrarianism, a seething ressentiment, and a conspiracist worldview.
>Marked anti-intellectualism and intense dogma, an ignorance of history and theory, and a reductionist/simplistic world view
>Loathing of liberals, centrists, and leftists who are perceived as moderates (such as social democrats or left communists) — having an even greater loathing for them than they have for the far-right, and displaying less willingness to tolerate them
>Conspiracy theorist mindset which reflexively derides mainstream media in preference to alternative media which is largely non-fact based and more ideologically orientated (Alternet, The Canary, MintPress News, etc.)
>Outmoded worldview which views events through the prism of past conflicts (especially the Iraq War but also Afghanistan conflicts, the Cold War, etc.)
>Tendency to “support” authoritarian regimes around the world (e.g. North Korea, Ba’athist Syria, Islamic Republic of Iran) in which actual leftists are either state-controlled puppets, persecuted, or politically non-existent
>Adherence to a narrow ideology of anti-imperialism which ascribes a grandiose and unrealistic role to the US or West as a whole (i.e. vulgar campism and “the ‘anti-imperialism’ of idiots”)
İt's an broad term which includes groups such as Julian Assange and WikiLeaks,factions of anti-imperialist camp,parties like WWP and Patriotic,Lyndon Larouche movement,Third-Positionists like SSNP,obsucre Tankies,Eurasianists,factions of Occupy Wall Street,Assadists,Neo-Dengists,factions of Identitarians and so on
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Book-burning comes to America
>In a major act of censorship, publisher W.W. Norton has announced its decision to “permanently” remove Blake Bailey’s biography of American novelist Philip Roth (1933–2018) from print.


The censorship of Philip Roth's biography will create a dangerous precedent in a way that any literally figure from now on who does not follow the political norms at a given historical time will simply become ostracized. Today the bourgeois feminists and adherents of identity politics within the Democratic party circles are pretty much following the same exact hysteria Joseph McCarthy did during the so called Red scare of 1950s.
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What happened to the pirates of the old Web?

>pro free speech
>kind of anarchist
>anti copyright, sometimes anti capitalist following that
>wikileaks before they started collab'ing with burger rightoids in a pathetic attempt to get a presidential pardon
>old 4chan, other chans before they got psyop'd hard
>also notch was a pirate party guy before, probably cuz he was a /v/ guy
>tor network and pirate bay guys
>riseup people i guess
>scihub, libgen

what happened?
I feel like most of us got psyoped, arrested, etc. I was basically a kid growing up on the Web of that day and I still sympathize with the pirate movements, but I feel like they all got BTFO and now there's just remnants. Back then it really felt like the energy was with the pirates, now it feels like the corporate and gov powers have the momentum. It's scary bros. Time for a pirate revival?
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Why is there no Eco-Anarchism flag on leftypol anymore?

I remember back on bunkerchan, there was access to that flag. Now it seems to have been removed (besides a few other things have been added). The thing is, Eco-Anarchism is not the same as anarcho-primitivism, so the Eco-Anarchism flag should stay.
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first post here on "leftypol"

wassup im a refugee from /pol/, too many dumbasses on there, im an MLM, what's this platform like
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I came here to raid but honestly you lot arent that bad. frens?
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Does charity genuinely help people in any real way?

I do food distribution every other Saturday and realistically I don’t feel like I’m doing a damn fucking thing, I mostly see the same people every time I go meaning their conditions in life have never improved anyway. Every time I go volunteers tell the people there “See you next Satuday”, I don’t understand why you’d say that if preferably those people would not be food insecure. Thoughts?

Pic not related
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Is it inheritly elitist or secretly a good idea? I feel as if it has it's merits, but the movement is so vague and illdefined at times that it's hard to judge as a movement
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Religion is one of the most powerful forces on the planet

My definition of Religion is not just restrained to the "religious identity" slot like Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, etc which gets used today besides ethnic identities. This "identity slot" hasn't always existed. Ancient Celts didn't consider themselves Celts and totally separate from that also members of a "Celtic Religion". Indian Nationalists refuse to call Hinduism a religion, because for them it means being Indian. The British brought with them the concept that religion should be private. Publicly the Indians are British Subjects, but privately they can be Hindus.

You might think the West lives in irreligious times today. That religion, in particular Christianity, is on the decline. That is wrong! Christian Institutions are on the decline, but psychologically … what is actually happening in the minds of people, religion is still alive and strong. All of this woke stuff is basically a Religion. It's a secular form of Christianity. A kind of primitive Christianity, before the establishment of state Churches. And it's more powerful than Christianity.

It doesn't require conversion. You don't have to give up being a Muslim, Atheist of Christian. It's a separate third identity besides you cultural and religious identity. Think about this. It's so perfect. A proper modern Religion that wants to grow as fast as possible wouldn't want to restrict itself and come into a conflict with Old Religions, which have kinda become just a second ethnic identity. (you are only a certain religion because your parents were for example, this is what I mean by second ethnic identity)

What I just told you is huge. It completely changes the way we look at the world. Right now we are living in hyper-religious times, not irreligious times. We have to accept this, if we want to change things.
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People here have a great disdain for idpol here, and I think it that's coming from a misunderstanding of idpol. There are two different forms idpol, one seeks to become nothing else other than itself the other seeks to break away from itself and become something else entirely. The first form of idpol should be avoided as it seeks nothing other than a circle jerking of itself, while the second one seeks liberated itself from the shackles of the identity. An example of the first kind of idpol is that of white nationalism. White nationalists seek nothing other than celebrate their whiteness, their goal is nothing other than their whiteness. Another example of this is liberal feminism, what is distinct about liberal feminism is they self-perpetuate that women are lesser than men rather than escape the dichotomy.

An example of the second kind of idpol is that of the proletariat. The proletarian seeks to escape the identity of the worker, whose identity is defined by being the exploited class, that works long hard hours, and has nothing to sell other than his labor power. While also the proletarian seeks not to become the bourgeoisie, whose identity is defined as the exploiter, those who own the means of production. But rather a freeman, who has escaped this dichotomy, who chooses to do what he desires. I think a common mistake made by Marxist states, which Murray Bookchin pointed out in Post-Scarcity Anarchism, is that propaganda they chose to present themselves as, that being productive states run by busy bee workers. This is a mistake as the worker should not celebrate his proletarianess but rather seek to seek to be free of it. I've noticed that in communist art, celebrates the worker and his identity as a worker, rather in anarchist and libertarian socialist art celebrates the idea of being a free society. As Lenin said in What is to be Done? The worker only becomes a revolutionary when he learns to despise his workerness and becomes to detest his class status. The black power movement, those in it seek to break free their blackness as defined as lesser, uncivilized, dirty but also not to become the white man, who is defined as the greater, civilized, clean. The seek to create an identity of blackness that is separate and free from the dichotomy that they escaped.

Another form of the first kind of idpol that is to be avoided is one where the person seeks to stop being the exploited but become the exploiter instead of transcending above his masters, in essence slave morality. An example of this when of proletariat instead of wishing he were free, seeks to become the bourgeoisie. He mistakes the bourgeoisie for being free which they are not, even though they still get the better end to the deal. They are still chained to identity of the bourgeoisie, who is constant battle with other members of the bourgeoisie in order to stay a member. The same can be said about the black man who seeks to become like that of the white man, instead of transcending above him.
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Was he right?
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Kinda jelly of the first world, you can easily survive by dumpster diving in America.
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H-hey guys, do you have any information on the Soviet Union? Are joining your local Communist Par-
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>in a dark mood and wondering about self-immolation as a protest tool
>look it up
>a good 10 or Americans self immolated in protest of the Vietnam War
>all of them were either ignored or outright ridiculed by the press
>a man self immolated in protest of the Iraq invasion and no media source even commented on his death for a fucking week

We live in one of the most barbaric societies to ever exist. The fact that a human being setting themselves on fucking fire for a cause is seen as barely even worthy of mentioning just goes to show how desensitized to death and destruction we've all become.
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Indian strain of coronavirus

So if I hear right, this virus is 2 times more contagious and also more deadly and alsp resistant to the vaccines developed, and that is going like wildfire through India which is supposedly underreporting it's casualties because of the state the country is in.
I only have one question, are we fucked?
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Thoughts on Spanish Communist rapper Pablo Hasel
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Hello, leftypol. Yes, Im from /pol/ so I dislike you commies, but I have seen that here there is alot of hate against Uyghurs, adnd everyone who knows me know that I like the Chink regime (especially Xi Jinping) because they are genociding Mudslime Uyghurs. So…. What do you think on me?

Also, I hate capitalism so much as communism
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I lived in the USSR and moved to the UK after it collapsed. AMA.
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News May 1st, 2021

1,000+ join ‘Kill the Bill’ rally on May Day in London (VIDEO)
More than a thousand people have taken to the streets of the British capital on May Day to defend their right to protest, which is endangered by a bill that vastly expands the powers of the UK police. A huge crowd gathered in Trafalgar Square on Saturday and then marched in front of government buildings in the city’s center, chanting “kill the bill” and other slogans.

About 100,000 people gather for union rallies in Spain on International Workers' Day
The largest demonstration was organized by the country's two most prominent trade unions – the Workers' Commissions (CCOO) and the General Union of Workers (UGT) – in Madrid. The column marched from the historic Plaza de Cibeles to the Puerta del Sol square.

US military base in Yorkshire targeted for protests on international day of action
AUS military base in Yorkshire was targeted for protests today as part of an international day of action against foreign military bases. The Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament (CND) said that the world’s military powers, particularly the US, operate more than 1,000 bases worldwide, often outside the control of the countries which host them.

May Day protesters demand more job protections amid pandemic
Workers and union leaders dusted off bullhorns and flags that had stayed furled during coronavirus lockdowns for slimmed down but still boisterous — and at times violent — May Day marches on Saturday, demanding more labor protections amid a pandemic that has turned economies and workplaces upside down.

Workers, Farmers Forge New Unity on International Labour Day
Even in the darkest hours, their spirit for reclaiming their rights remains unflinching, as workers across the national capital region celebrated International Labour Day or May Day outside the gates of their factories and working institutions with rousing slogans and waving red flags.

200+ detained as May Day protesters defy coronavirus lockdown in Turkey (VIDEO)
More than 200 protesters were detained across Turkey during May Day protests that came amid tight new anti-coronavirus restrictions. Footage from Istanbul shows that policing in the city was particularly heavy-handed. Dozens of protesters attempted to march in Istanbul’s iconic Taksim Square, marking Labor Day. Groups of demonstrators tried to approach the square from different directions, but they were met by a massive force of riot and plainclothes police officers.

Colombian Police Kill at Least 8 People and Injure Scores - Reports
A general strike against a new tax bill saw Colombia's main cities flooded with protesters Friday. The Government of president Ivan Duque responded with violence, leaving scores of demonstrators injured and at least eight dead, according to human rights groups.

HDBH militia targets a ‘collaborator’ in Mardin
HDBH (Peoples’ United Revolutionary Movement)-Kurdistan Sinan Güneş Militia released a statement announcing the details of an action they carried out in Mardin province, northern Kurdistan as part of the ‘Vengeance Campaign for Sinan Dersim'.

Around 30 Communists Commemorated Labour Day in Prague
Around three dozen communists commemorated Labour Day this morning on Střelecký Island. The president and vice-president of the Prague Communist Party, Marta Semelová and Petr Šimůnek, spoke briefly at the memorial plaque – recollecting the events of the 1st Labour Day celebration on May 1, 1890.

Ukrainian President Zelensky deepens alliance with far right
Amidst the ongoing military confrontation with Russia, reports have emerged proving that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is seeking to appoint the far-right Serhiy Sternenko as head of Ukraine’s Security Service (SBU) in Odessa, in an attempt to further his alliance with neo-Nazi forces.

Western Sahara: Biden won't reverse Trump's recognition of Morocco sovereignty - report
US Secretary of State Tony Blinken told Moroccan Foreign Minister Nasser Bourita on Friday that the Biden administration would stick with president Trump's recognition of Morocco's sovereignty over the Western Sahara, despite opposition from senators, according to Axios. The Trump administration originally made the move in late 2020, a reversal of a long-held US policy over the contested territory, to reward Rabat for normalising relations with Israel.

Al Qaeda to CNN: 'We Will Wage War Against the US on All Fronts'
One of the spokesmen praised the Taliban for fighting the U.S. over the past 19 years, suggesting that “thanks to Afghans for the protection of comrades-in-arms, many such jihadi fronts have been successfully operating in different parts of the Islamic world for a long time.”
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Leftypol.wiki started a few months ago

feel free to add to our wonderful trove of knowledge

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what are some conspiracies that are popular in your contry and you believe in them?,today i found out some russian schizo communities believe that:
1the nazis are alive and well,hiding somwhere in antarctica and are helping the US to take down russia with alien technology since the 50s

2the real putin is dead since the 90s,and russian oligarchs have been using his clone/twin brother or something

3moscow have been nuked by the english in 1812,and nuclear weapons existed even before then,its just when america used it on japan as a last resort that they were finally made public

4 all the Math we learned today is wrong. What we call multiplication is actually addition, what we call power is actually multiplication and what we call addition is made up shit to decieve people. Physic is also wrong, also gravity isn't real

5saint Petersburg is thousands years old, all history before 19th century was made-up by anglos(it was going to be the french but they lost world dominance after thee seven years war)

6 the russian Federal Security Service blew up houses in 90s and blamed it on the chechens to start new war to boost Putins ratings
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How many people here are middle-class, white/asain, college education/dropped out of college and constantly go over in their head why they weren't actually that wealthy when they were younger/times they felt they were working class?
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Why and how are rightists able to sustain their level of cognitive dissonance? If they have so much mental will to ignore reality, why don't they use that power to make themselves happy about their lives?
Do they never just have a moment where they realize, consciously or unconsciously "wait a minute, I'm brazenly ignoring the truth right now"? I used to be a liberal and those moments of self awareness and introspection and desire to stop being wrong eventually lead me to become a communist. Why is this self-awareness seemingly lacking in rightists? I don't think I ever see them admit their blatant lies.
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Being a dengist is unironically retarded.
Being anti-dengist is likewise equally retarded.
The fundamental fact on the question of dengism is that the CCP is an incredibly secretive organization and for good reason, and thus supporting it or antagonizing it is dumb. China does not have a socialist economy or society in anyway. But I genuinely think you can't rule out they're actually 5D chessing this shit and will one day prove themselves to be the most based lads and laddettes in human history. The only smart position is agnostic or middle of the road, as it pertains to Dengism.
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We need a debunk thread on here
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International May Day Online Rally 2021 - ICFI (2 hours+ ahead when posted)

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I'm not a Trotskyist but am I wrong in my perception that Trotskyist are generally good at analyzing the world? I'm getting the impression they are.
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Is Marxism Lovecraftian?

Is Marxism Lovecraftian? There's a lot of similarities between Lovecraft's description of the Great Old Ones/ Outer Gods and Marx's description of Capitalism. Marx describes the forces of capital and the dialectic tensions within the capitalist mode of production as being this monstrous unstoppable force that consumes all with in its wake. And that the dialectical tensions that inherit to class societies are the main drivers of history and people are only shoved along its wake. While in Lovecraft The Great Old Ones/ Outer Gods influencing their control over the world with humanity being unable to stop them. Some quotes from the communist manifesto to illustrate my point.
>The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connexions everywhere.
>The bourgeoisie, during its rule of scarce one hundred years, has created more massive and more colossal productive forces than have all preceding generations together. Subjection of Nature’s forces to man, machinery, application of chemistry to industry and agriculture, steam-navigation, railways, electric telegraphs, clearing of whole continents for cultivation, canalisation of rivers, whole populations conjured out of the ground – what earlier century had even a presentiment that such productive forces slumbered in the lap of social labour?
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Socialist media reports of the fall of the Eastern bloc

Does anyone have news clips or digitized articles from Cuba, North Korea, China, Vietnam, etc. from around the time when the rest of socialist countries were reverting back to capitalism? Would be really interesting to see how they broke the news.

Theoretical pieces explaining how it happened from a Marxist perspective from said countries also welcome here.
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I'm looking for a book on the Bolshevik revolution. Do you know a good one? Preferably pre-1980.
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News 4/30/21

China launches main part of its 1st permanent space station
The Tianhe, or “Heavenly Harmony,” module blasted into space atop a Long March 5B rocket from the Wenchang Launch Center on the southern island province of Hainan, marking another major advance for the country’s space exploration.

Joint opposition candidates beat LDP in 3 national elections
In national elections held on April 25 in Hokkaido, Nagano, and Hiroshima, joint candidates backed by concerned citizens and opposition parties united, including the Japanese Communist Party were elected.

S. Korean fishermen sail out against Japan’s ‘irresponsible nuclear attack’ as Tokyo plans to dump Fukushima wastewater into ocean
According to Korea’s National Federation of Fisheries Cooperatives, around 800 fishermen participated in demonstrations on Friday. Fishing boats set sail from nine ports across the country, protesting near the shore, chanting slogans and holding banners aloft.

COVID food pantry operators draw accusations of communism in the Philippines
"Police officers repeatedly asked for my contact number. I also learned that they kept asking for my address from my volunteers," she told CBS News. The clincher was a post on Facebook by a local police office, accusing Patricia and other community pantry proponents of being fronts for the armed faction of the Communist Party of the Philippines.

'Heroes of the pandemic' should receive pay rises
The KPL stresses that the government should do more to support small businesses which have "involuntarily gotten into serious difficulties". The Communist Party also demands pay rises for the "heroes of the pandemic", i.e. workers in the healthcare, cleaning, and security industries.

‘Partition has failed - it has run its course,’ say Irish communists after Arlene Foster resignation
General secretary Eugene McCartan said that “after 100 years of partition, unionism has finally run out of options and unionists’ relationship with the British state has been downgraded. “The British have courted and secured new forces to advance their imperial interests in Ireland, north and south.

1st serving UK officer jailed for terrorism offence over membership of banned neo-Nazi group
The now-former Met Police officer had been a member of National Action (NA), an outlawed neo-Nazi group in the United Kingdom, prior to joining the police force, with footage showing him spraying the group’s logo on a wall weeks before submitting his application to join the force.

Union-backed Trudeau government rams through law to criminalize Montreal port strike
The Liberals’ back-to-work law was adopted by the House of Commons in the early hours of Thursday morning thanks to the votes of the opposition Conservatives. It is set to be approved by the Senate and receive royal assent, making it law, later today.

Palestinian president decides — on his own — to postpone elections
Hamas and heads of the leading lists were not officially invited. After the speech, demonstrations were held in support of Abbas' Jerusalem position while there were other protests opposed to that position, calling for the need for change through the ballot box.

Turkey puts the life and health of millions at risk by cutting water supplies to North East Syria
The occupying Turkish state reduces the amount of water flowing into Northern and Eastern Syria through the Euphrates River every day. The extent of the danger is once again clearly seen in the image taken by air of the Euphrates River, west of Kobanê.

Thousands of Czechs rally against President Zeman over Russia views
About 10,000 Czechs rallied against President Milos Zeman in central Prague on Thursday, calling for his removal from office for what they say are pro-Russian views that have no place in a European Union nation.

Euro zone economy slips into another recession as Covid lockdowns bite
The euro zone economy contracted in the first quarter of 2021 as countries implemented new lockdowns and restrictions amid a third wave of coronavirus infections. Gross domestic product in the region fell by 0.6% quarter on quarter, according to preliminary data released by Europe’s statistics office Eurostat.
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Anyone pained by how retarded the working class is?

I'm quick to advocate for a worker owned economy, but always wince when I listen to 90% of low income people. Anyone else?
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Was Lenin a pseud?
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Stupidpol expresses support for the cop that gunned down a 16 year old girl

Just when I thought these reprehensible faggots couldn’t get any lower
I’d say petit booj stupidpol faggots deserve to die screaming, but that’s not enough honestly, they deserve to watch their families die
Red-brown alliance faggots, fucking scum, like the feces you scrape off your boot
Thread in question
I hope every last one of these cunts dies in agony and despair
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Myanmar: Karen rebels seize army base near Thai border

>The Karen National Union (KNU) on Tuesday attacked and seized a military outpost in eastern Myanmar, close to the border with northwestern Thailand.
>"Our troops captured the Burmese military camp," KNU foreign affairs chief Padoh Sah Taw Nee told news agencies.
>Fighting occurred near the Salween river which separates Myanmar and Thailand. Thai villagers said they could hear gunfire from the clashes. 
>Taw Nee said that the group is collecting information on the number of injuries and deaths from the fighting between Karen forces and Myanmar's military.
>Myanmar's military has not yet commented on the attack. 

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We need a purge, old-BO style

I keep seeing pro-imperialist posts, obvious glowing and idpol hysteria.
We should ban all the posters advocating for imperialist aggression, pro-US posters and the fascist scum posting on this board. It's obvious these scumbags won't be converted and are here to spam.
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Hello, Im here because Im tired of the autisic fascists of /pol/ I hope Im welcome here
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Political implications of Elon Musk

Like him or not? also appreciation thread for the richest most successful african the world has ever known
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Can someone explain why "market socialism" is bad? Couldn't theoretically, through legislation, or the market as it exists, workers be given stock in a company and slowly turn it into a cooperative?
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I just found those fuckers and who the hell they are ??
>We support open-borders globally expect Israel,they should secure their homeland
>We oppose Imperialism but support Bush #DefendIsrael
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Bottom Text

Black people who are wealthier than 90 percent of the general population commit more crime than do white people who are poorer than 90 percent of the general population.

You mind explaining dialectically why that is?
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The Importance for the Electoral Left for Communists?

Historically, whenever the electoral left(namely Social Democrats) have been strong, Communist Parties have been strong as well. So the question is now, in this era of darkest reaction, that we should give our votes to the electoral left in times of voting for a new parliament? This only applies ofcourse only when your domestic communist party is really too weak to make a difference.
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LTV Cockshott and Kliman

Why are Cockshott and Klimans interpretations of LTV incompatible? Are they even mutually exclusive? It sounds like two people talking past eachother about the "correct" way to play with their favorite toy, they are both so focused on what they are doing they can't understand the other.
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Debate is (almost) useless

Debate, especially youtube/twitch "debate" is fundamentally flawed because the audience has no media literacy. An expert paleontologist and a young earth creationist could stand on opposite sides (an extreme example). The format of internet debate falsely equalizes knowledge and ignorance, expertise and bullshit, thats why you have an academic economist with a phd and who went to Harvard, Princeton, and Yale debating a high school dropout Starcraft streamer.

When you actually know who's right and who's wrong and have actual high level knowledge of some field, its painful to watch these debates or worse yet be "debated" by a person who is full of shit but keeps trying to insert gotchas and random red herrings and quotes from wikipedia articles while trolling you asking "wheres the evidence BRO?". The real answer is that to even understand the fucking evidence I would need to teach you 15 textbooks worth of stuff, which I can't do in this format, and even if I did there's no guarantee that you or your audience would get it so instead it devolves into posturing and zingers and talking over people.

You even have some of these ecelebs buying into "debate epistemology" where we determine who's right by who wins the debate. But at some point empirical reality has to kick in. The bottom line is that debate bros target audience of teenage and young adult gamers who listen to streams in the background, have extremely limited media literacy, life experience, and probably won't check the debaters sources (if they even had any) to the level of the debater themselves, let alone an actual expert in that field. And even if they did, in this hypothetical example of the paleontologist. Would they even understand it? I wouldn't. And even if they read it would they comprehend it? maybe there are terms that are being used in a nonstandard way in that field? Maybe it references studies, authors, and baseline knowledge in that field that you can't learn by skimming some articles and blogs. It really is a form of vulgar anti intellectualism, running roughshod over research. And above all it is extremely arrogant which is why most debate bros are posturing narcissistic sociopaths who think they are smarter than everyone else. They're essentially trashing the domain knowledge of people who have actually spent years studying something by implying they can understand it after skimming a few articles and blogs.

Imagine the absolute fucking arrogance of thinking you can debunk an 80 year old economist after dropping out of school and rotting your brain playing video games 10 hours a day for the last 10 years.

This is why old media always gatekept debates to experts, or at least relevant people. Of course this had an elite bias, experts aren't always right, sometimes they are wrong and full of shit. But the solution is not to get your news from a confident sounding rando on youtube or twitch, no matter how much "research" they claim to have done.

TLDR: the problem with debates is that the audience can't tell who's objectively right and who isn't. Debates don't inform people on who's right, just on who's better at debating. Educational content, even entertaining breadtube theater kid sketches are better than this shit. Debate bros are a fucking cancer on the internet.
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What happened to the Bunkerchan fiasco?

Is there an article out, or was Dollars trolling?
Also why don't we adopt his idea, but ask an actual leftist magazine to write about us, we could ask a magazine like Jacobin to do that.
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More US police violence - Ma’Khia Bryant edition

While you sheeple are celebrating the show trial that the media's distracting you with and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are taking advantage by scoring political points, cops just killed another 15-year-old black girl.

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/penguin general/

remember back in bunkerchan that time we discussed autistically how to colonize antarctica and build a settelment there when things go bad in the world?,that was a really good thread

>Terra nullius (/ˈtɛrə nʌˈlaɪəs/, plural terrae nullius) is a Latin expression meaning "nobody's land".[1] It was a principle sometimes used in international law to justify claims that territory may be acquired by a state's occupation of it.[2]

>Because of its remoteness, even by Antarctic standards, most of Marie Byrd Land (the portion east of 150°W) has not been claimed by any sovereign state. It is by far the largest single unclaimed territory on Earth, with an area of 1,610,000 km2 (620,000 sq mi) (including Eights Coast, immediately east of Marie Byrd Land).

Ok, so, the plan is:
>Wait till the world tension meter goes up to 100%, meanwhile prepare ourselves.
>Go to the Patagonia armed to the teeth with both weapons and knowledge, we're like 700 on /leftypol/ alone, we just need the guns, rob a ship to get there and fill it to the brim of goods needed for the journey to Marie Byrd.
<Lots of building materials.
<Lots of food.
<Somehow steal some wind engines, or have the materials to build some ourselves, there should be a lot of room inside the ship.
<Lot of gasoline so we have electricity the first months on our own in the antartic, also steal some gasoline engines to have electricity.
<Some vehicles to get by through the snow.
<We will need some major clothes to get though there, also steal those I suppose.
<Also we will need internet, I need to have some access to porn and theory, and to make propaganda about our settlement, to make people get into here and so.
>Get into the territory of Marie Byrd.
>Land on there and make the best use of that ship, take parts from it to make a new settlement, maybe, alongside the goods we brought to build the first settlement of Marie Bryd, Leftypoland/Bunkerchania (You can suggest names).
>Make some type of extensive greenhouse for plants. Sustain electricity with wind engines. Hunt the local fauna meanwhile we establish all of this.
>Start getting into mining the territory in order to make living on the antartic feasible.
>Start making some foundry to melt those minerals and start making better stuff and shit.
>Once the world collapses and the melting down of the ice starts seriously, everything will start getting better.
>Since most of us are men, at the time this happens, and as the world enters a new dark age, we get into saving people from south america, start making transport lines through the new continent, Bunkerchania.
>Start developing a new, marxist, society from scratch.
<Maybe have some suspicious cases of piracy, going to the greenlanders, those people who live on green places, and take their stuff, but all of that will be forgotten by history.
<Also, abduct local right-wing retards to use as slave labour in this new, crazy world after the nuclear and climactic apocalypse, no one will remember such a thing, and their children will be taken away to be indoctrinated into proper bunkerchanite citizens by the bunkerchanite checka.
<BTW since I had the idea of the bunkerchanite cheka I will be the one leading it, suck it, nerds.
>Build the palace of the bunkerchanites on our first settlement, and capital, just called "Cockshot".

So what do you think about my plan.
Since it's the artic, no one in their right mind will try to invade and get us to accept capitalism, right?
We will be escaping to the one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism, (not) space but the artic!
I even made a cool flag, check it out!
Would you?
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Anyone else think today should be a holiday? Seventy-six years ago, a pathetic loser killed himself in his basement and the world became a better place because of it. Let us celebrate the death of the vile leader of the most evil regime in history. And if you are in doubt, the Nazi regime was guilty of:
>Euthanization programs
>Secret police
>Beatings and public humiliation
>Theft and destruction of art and property
>Concentration camps
>Extermination camps
>Death squads
>Human experimentation
>Planned starvation
>Forced labor
>Child kidnappings
>Directly responsible for the deaths of around 20 million people.
>Held responsibility for the deaths of around 50 million people by starting a war.
All of this in TWELVE YEARS, the vast majority in less than SIX. Not even the USSR had anything on this in its entire existence. So be thankful.
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Vichy france and collaborators

was the vichy regime and their collaboration justifiable or was it fascist opportunism, was there any other choice in what the vichy would/could given their circumstance should they have fought to the very end or would it end in the complete death of the french ?
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The Spanish Republic is 90 years old

Fs for a real one, comrades.
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JaCIAobin at it again
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Thoughts on the Albanian civil war of 1997?
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Any good reading material about the COMECON economic bubble? Was it really a massive economic drain for the Soviets? Could it have survived the gauntlet of the 80's? What were the primary causes for its collapse?
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Biden’s new dawn: Illusion and reality
>Behind the proclamations of a new dawn in the United States, Biden’s speech Wednesday night to a joint session of Congress provided a portrait of panic, crisis and desperation on the part of the American ruling class.


Absolutely the reformist pretenses from the part of Biden administration is to contain the growing class struggle especially at a time of pandemic, and at the same time enforcing aggressive Geopolitical foreign policy measures against China and Russia. In the end all sections of the American ruling class are in a struggle to restore the supremacy of American supremacy.
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muh "book club"

This is the way an unprincipled leftist who is into pseudo-praxis reproaches actually based communist.

>What? You READ? You have a BOOK CLUB for commies?

Notice his confusion, thinly veiling his insecurity about him not being able to read. When you scratch the surface of this with replies such as "Okay, so what have you read so far?" his anger will grow and call you a nerd.

Another attempt by his ilk is to relativize the importance of engaging theory in relation to his pseudo-praxis. Example:
>I'm in a tenant union! I do soup kitchens! I participate in my monthly Rojava meetings! What do you do?!

Notice his confusion most detectable in this part
The specimen does not realize that revolutionary praxis can only stem from the revolutionary understanding of capitalism. He thinks that millions of revolutionary proletarian in history bothered to read Marx, Engels, Lenin because a small stratum of intelligentsia duped them, instead of "letting them live out" their supposedly "more" revolutionary "instincts" like kicking trash cans and giving food to the homeless.

As Zizek said again and again: today pseudo-praxis is rampant. In fact it is one of the main contributors why we can't have an actual class-based movement in the West. Or as Lenin correctly said: without revolutionary theory there can be no revolutionary movement.

Be advised: the best way to counter these specimens is to promptly respond to them with the following: "Yes, I do read, anon. Yes, I will actually contribute to overthrowing capitalism, unlike you, booklets."

Thank you for reading this post. Keep on reading, preferably collectively.
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Just a small and trivial realization I made, but isn‘t it odd how history isn‘t taught in a way that includes the actions of large cooperations and banks? It‘s 2021 and we‘ve reached a time were 9/11 is taught to school kids as a historic event. We are well into the modern world and large cooperations and banks have for a long time wielded as much power as nations. We‘ve grown up to see history as actions and events between a people, nations and governments. Looking at human history there couldn‘t have been other structural bodies of that scale. But we have, as said, large cooperations and banks in this era whose actions can have tremendous impact on entire countries, continents and even the globe. The actions taken by these financial organizations should be part of the modern history curriculum, but they aren‘t. We still teach history as the events and actions of nations and governments. We are dismissing a large component here. How come? Have people grown so used to seeing history that way that few have realized? Do we in a capitalist society perceive companies and banks to be as omnipresent as air that they are practically invisible? Is this idea being suppressed?
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What's the correct take on trade school as opposed to a college education?
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News 4/29/21

Exit Polls Give Edge to TMC in Bengal, Big Win for DMK in TN, LDF in Kerala
If exit polls are to be believed, anti-incumbency does not seem to have worked much in the Assembly polls, except in Tamil Nadu. Most exit polls show non-BJP parties bagging most of the five states that went to polls, with the saffron party making litlle headway in the two big southern states – Tamil Nadu and Kerala.

CPP Denounce Recent Wave Of Coordinated AFP And PNP Attacks In Bicol Region
The Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP) today denounced successive extrajudicial killings and illegal arrests by police and military officers in Bicol provinces from April 25-26. Five civilians were brutally killed while two were arrested on trumped-up charges.

Corbyn joins socialists and communists in condemning neonazi march honouring SS war criminals in Ukraine
Marchers dressed in black trooped from the Arsenalna underground station to Independence Square with banners honouring the Waffen SS division, which was mainly made up of far-right Ukrainian volunteers and participated in massacres of Polish civilians, including women and children, in Palykorovy and Pidkamin.

Angry Renault workers take bosses ‘hostage’ for 12 hours in bid to block factory sale
Around 350 employees picketing Renault’s Fonderie de Bretagne factory in Brittany held seven managers “hostage” on Tuesday as they prevented them from leaving work. The incident comes after the automaker announced plans to sell or close the facility.

Government campaigned to force Assange out from Ecuadorian embassy
THE British government campaigned and spent more than £20,000 to force Wikileaks founder Julian Assange from the Ecuadorian embassy in London, a Declassified UK investigation has revealed. Declassified UK analysed Foreign Office documents as well as the recently published diaries of former Foreign Office minister Alan Duncan, who was a key player in negotiations around Mr Assange.

Israel’s Iron Dome causing cancer among soldiers, report claims
Some soldiers have already filed lawsuits against Israel’s Ministry of Defence. The Israeli army has denied any connection between their service at the Iron Dome and contracting cancer. In 2011, 240 Israeli soldiers started their service at the Iron Dome, six of them got cancer after their release or at the end of their service, according Yedioth Ahronoth's report, the full version of which will be published on Friday.

Bolivian Activists Urge EU Not To Support Coup Leaders
Bolivian activists urged the European Union not to support the right-wing forces in the country. This, as representatives within the European Parliament and from the Spanish party Vox, try to plot actions over alleged human rights violations during the elected government of Luis Arce.

Bolsonaro blamed for acting against the life of Brazilians
Brazilian President Jair Bolsanaro has taken again some actions against Brazilians' life and health, by discarding the necessary information required to import Sputnik V vaccine, Congressman and former Health Minister Alexandre Padilha complained.

Colombia's National Strike Continues Amid Public Outrage
Citizen outrage increased in the afternoon and evening of Wednesday after citizens posted on social networks a video in which a police officer is seen getting off his motorcycle and shooting a young man in Cali. He died a few minutes later lying on the sidewalk, as recorded by the independent outlet Cuestion Publica.

Mass cremations as India faces a tsunami of Covid-19 deaths
Jyot Jeet has pledged to care for all the dead as if they were his own family, performing traditional if abbreviated funeral rites at a makeshift crematorium in India’s capital. Sometimes, the devastation overwhelms him. This happened on a recent morning, when he wept alongside a woman as she stood next to the funeral pyre of her husband and their young son.
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some website:<who do you think is the biggest threat to world peace?
these countries's answers:
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>he still believes modern social democracy won't eventually turn into hardcore surveilance neural network powered fascism to secure and maintain its power and grip on reality thanks to the ever accelerating flow of information making the world more unpredictable and descentralized
I seriously hope you reformists don't do this.
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Marxist interpretation of maslow's pyramid

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What do anons think about Havana syndrome? Who do you think is doing these based attacks against the americans people and how exactly do you think it works?
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Should we abolish states?

I know traditional Marxist thought holds that the state will inevitably wither away once a higher stage of socialism/communism is achieved, but doesn't the rise of the administrative state suggest that the state should stick around even under communism? Like, how is a post-state communist society supposed to regulate pharmaceuticals?
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'Trophy trees' are the new wealth status symbol: America's super rich are paying up to $250,000 to t

>'Trophy trees' have become the new status symbol for America's uber-rich, with wealthy homeowners paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to have the prized plants shipped into their yards by helicopters, barges and flatbed trucks.
>Miami-based landscaper Walter Acree says he has spent much of the past year helping the area's affluent rip out and relocate trees to their multi-million dollar properties.
>Acree, who owns the tree-transporting company Green Integrity's, told The Wall Street Journal that business is booming because South Florida's superrich are now swooning over horticulture.
>'It's the busiest the business has ever been and we're doing things at a scale that is just remarkable,' he told the publication.
>While most wealthy citizens can buy a Bentley or a Rolex, trees - much like original artworks - are one-of-a-kind objects that allow their owner to distinguish themselves and advance their status.
>Like artworks, the trees are aesthetically pleasing, but they also have the added bonus of being able to signify the owner's environmental credentials and their passion for sustainability.
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Let's choose our uniform.

So, what's should be the uniform for the comrades of /leftypol/?
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Lolberts and ancaps

So let me get this right
>Capitalism is great. Governments are bad, thus we need to totally limit them and/or plain destroy them and leave a power vacuum that will inevitably be filled by a bunch of powerful billionaires, corporate boards and transnational corporations in which no normal citizen has a word and against which nobody can compete, effectively establishing a new state functioning as an all-out corporate dictatorship…
Why do people support this insanity again?
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Most of the world agrees with the cartoon malthusian.
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Let's have some fun:

Say you wanted to establish the union of egoists in reality. How would you go about doing it?
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Are the police part of the working class? They work in order to live, which clearly makes them part of the working class, so how could they not be
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What causes rightoids to be overrepresented online?
They dominate all online spaces that aren't specifically lefty. YouTube is amongst the worst. Most news stories about islam have unironic taliban worshipers with hundreds of likes. Not even getting started on the covid and protest videos.
Why is this? Terminally online? Analysing just the internet you'd get the idea 85% of america are hillibily boomers? What causes this?
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College Organizing

How effective is college organizing in the modern age of psuedo-activism and social media? Is there ever a hope of going back to the 70s in terms of true person-to-person rallying?
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whats their fucking problem?

is it just me or are there a lot of self-hating euro-larpers in this continent,hell i even recall back then when i was browsing 4chan's /pol/ and /int/ this happening:

>if the german third reich came back again today,many people would cheer for its return,believe me

>see his flag,its mexican

>based japan limiting the numbers of brown muzzie shitskins in nippon,deus vult indeed

>see his flag,its panama

>so? why should i care if he threw gibs demanders into the ocean?,my family wasn't affected by him anyway because we did not fall for jewish propaganda,too bad commies have returned to shit on his constitution.

>see flag,its chile obviously

>i just don't understand why couldn't they exterminate the algerians and force their poor to repopulate the land,if france did that there would be no stabbing attacks in paris today and notredame would still be intact.

>see flag,for fuck sake itsperu

and recently,in a thread about chauvin being found guilty.
>goodbye,western civilisation,we did not deserve you
>see flag,itsurugway(kek)

>the west is dead

>see flag,itsbrazil
i only want to understand how come this is a thing,of course its not the first time non-europeans larp as euros,but it seems to me like these guys really think of themselves as ones "look guys,im a member of the smart-hansome blonde big IQ civilised team,unlike the rest of you monkeys",which is wierd considering the history of latin america,or how americans think of them as "non-western",this whole thing also make me wonder,how come japan is considered more western than any of these countries despite having less european "heritage" than all of latin america combined?
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Just curious..

(pic is unrelated, just chose it bc fuck america))

Is getting banned from the socialistra subreddit a badge of honor? I tried to have a constructive conversation about lgbt oppression (I'm gay myself) and how intersectionality divides us even more, and got banned for being 'insane' and divisive. I tried to point out that class is an overarching category that covers a multitude of oppressed communities. Engage in class struggle, then get rid of the economic means of that oppression. Even if they didn't like to hear what I had to say, I can only think, it's the fucking internet, if you don't like it, downvote it.

P.S. (sorry if this is annoying, overt-talked and really should be in /b/. Don't be mean to me 🥺)
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Capitalism prepares to fight wars, not the pandemic
>Last year, as more than 3 million people lost their lives amid a raging pandemic, governments around the world spent nearly $2 trillion on weapons and preparations for war.


The symptoms of the diseased world capitalist system are becoming ever clearer, especially since the start of the Covid-19 pandemic. Huge surges in the stock market and the wealth of the top 0.001% tied to $trillion bail outs. Mad rushes by governments to reopen the economy and keep schools open despite overwhelming medical evidence that this spreads the virus. Ignoring mass death caused by Covid. Huge increases in war materiel spending. Downplaying of the threat of fascism and ignoring the January 6 US coup attempt. The rise of propaganda against Russia and China, and the censoring of the Internet by social media companies and Google. The reassigning of universities for military research. The wilful disappearance of the Julian Assange case from the MSM.

On the positive side we have the beginnings of mass consciousness of working people everywhere; the re-emergence of strikes and protests; and the beginnings of an organs of workers struggles outside of trades unions: the rank and file safety committees.

These developments are synchronized and represent the interests of the two main social classes. The outcome is uncertain but there is no doubt that a colossal struggle confronts the international working class to save humanity from disease, economic ruin and the world war. The role of the ICFI as the world party of socialist revolution is a decisive factor in favour of workers. This is becoming clearer by the day.
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Would it be accurate to say that calling US presidents war criminals is libshit? Because of the strict "need to know" policy intelligence effectively lies to the president by omission. How can you expect a president to make progressive decisions when you have intelligence manipulating him? Not to mention all the shills who gather around the president like vultures around a feast. And who knows if a president was ever gently reminded about the fragility of their family? Blaming presidents misses the point. The president is like a blindfolded driver - he does not know what he is driving or where he's heading; the only thing he hears is "pull the brakes right now. trust me." If you think Bernie Sanders would have been different in office you are incredibly naive. Nothing short of radical systemic change would affect US foreign policy.

Reposting from USAPOL thread because no one gave me a serious answer.
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Dr. Norman Bethune


who was Norman Bethune? and why was he so fucking cool?

>an early advocate of socialized medicine in Canada, although Canadian history books pretend like the succdem Tommy Douglas came up with it

>while fighting in the Spanish Civil War, the first to ever perform blood transfusions in combat
>joined the Eighth Route Army in China, died from an infected wound got while operating on soldiers
>met with Mao, who was so impressed he wrote this famous eulogy
>honored by this epic statue, a number of Chinese hospitals and Canadian schools named after him
>the highest medical honor in China is called the Bethune Medal

can we get some appreciation for the good doctor?
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>haven't read Stirner
>don't feel like reading Stirner but get the gist sort of
>tell people I've read Stirner and recommend they read him too so they can despook themselves
>still haven't even read Stirner myself
This pleases my Ego.
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remember when everything was going more left ? those were the days
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Glowie NGOs

What do we know about these groups? Pic related is just a few examples, feel free to mention more that exist.
How do you convince a normie these glowie NGOs are feeding you bullshit?
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Is there a case for Nicolae Ceaușescu?

Idk bros, seems corrupt and revisionist to me

>Allowed IMF Banks into Romania

>Borrowed 13 Billion Dollars from the West and devastated the economy

>Spent the budget on palaces

>Abondoned key tenants of Marxism-Leninism

>Was praised by Nixon and the British Royal Family

>Traded with the West

>Was a Nationalist (the Bourgeois kind not Socialist Patriotism)

You get the point
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how are people unironically becoming monarchist in the year of our lord 2021? I've seen tons of young people calling for a constitutional monarchy, in a country that has been a republic for 100 years. they say it'll make us more respected globally and that a person raised from birth to rule will be better than a politician, and this shit is actually getting support. What is the material basis for this? How is it fought? What are the sources and the data that show a monarchy is corrupt and shit for the citizens
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Here are the achievements of Eastern allies:
-singlehandedly defeated the Axis Powers
-managed to not only rebuild but strengthen as well

Here are the achievements of Western 'allies':
-let the nazis rape Europe in hope they'd fight the Soviets first
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Mark Levin: Liberals are MARXIST


>Mark Levin: Critical Race Theory, Climate change, and everything in the last 20-30 years are MARXIST BASED IDEOLOGIES. The american progressive movement in the late 19th and early 20th century was MARXIST

is he right?
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Being Communist By Anti-Communism

İs there any anon who had become communist by anti-communist propaganda? I used to see leftism as "old ideas that didn't work" but as i had face weirdo anti-communist propaganda by time,i started to realise that establishment fears.
From all of that "soviet no food hehehe" memes to conservative's "Obama and Biden are GLoBAlİsT CoMmUnİsTs wHo HaTe Our FreEdOm" bullshit to from far-right's "JudEo-BoLsHeViSm DeStrOyS WeSt.RaCe MixİnG iS CoMmUnİsM" bullshit to media's "see?Socialism is when there is genocidal totalitarianism that doesn't understand economy" nonsense…
I mean, Socialists are not even %5 of population but we live under a propaganda like it's %30.
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8ch leftypol archives

is there any sort of archive for all the old threads from /leftypol/ and /leftpol/ back on 8chan? I'd like to browse through some of the old posts from it's hayday a few years back but IDK if they've been saved at all or not.
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Obesity stifling dissent

I've recently lost 20 kg (44 pounds) and the most striking thing I've noticed is that I've been thinking to a point I might even call overthought.

To your knowledge are there any explicit plans that use obesity as a tool to suppress left thought and organization?
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Why does being childfree/not wanting to be around children lead to almost inevitable social ostracization? I thought this sort of zealous natalism was a mostly dead remnant of the past, and yet I can't even mention it among supposedly fellow socialists without being shamed, mocked, and ostracized.
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Is MAGA a communist movement?
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Why did communism fail every single time it got tried?

Maybe we should finally talk about this issue.
Trying the same thing again and again and expecting different results is cringe.
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Does it feel as if leftism and class based politics is receding in the online and offline discourse? I barely see anything related to even idpol shit anymore outside of weird internet hives. I think neoliberal "centrism" might have finally captured the west's heart yet again.
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Then what?

Okay, trying to fix racism, sexism, etc within capitalism is futile and even counterproductive when it comes in the form of corporate co-opted liberal idpol. „The root of it all is class!“ Okay.. how exactly will socialism fix it then? Key word „exactly“? Will in your socialist utopia women no longer have to text their friends where they are when they go out with a guy, because they might get raped or murdered, as women disproportionally do at the hands of men? Will the KKK and other white supremacists disappear? Will all white people admit most confederate statues were erected in times where African Americans fought for their rights to spite them and therefore agree to remove them? Will Asian men never hear to have demeaning jokes about their penile size again? Will homosexuals and transgenders no longer be discriminated against or bullied into suicide? How?
Pro tip: Don‘t say those are all irrelevant issues, that‘s just indirectly admitting socialism won‘t fix it.
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If you do not support rape and free access to women, you are NOT a communist
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George Bataille.

Should i read the Accursed share / George Bataille?.
I've heard that Nick Land, Lacan and guy debord all take inspiration from it at some points, yet i also hear that king nonce Foucault took most of his inspiration from Bataille as well and that Bataille himself was also likely a noncoid. I dont really want to read a book that is just a guy rationalising why he likes to act like a fucked up version of hedonism bot from futurama all day.
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where did he go so wrong ?