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Reading General

Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks

Check out the /edu/ thread at

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
Add topics into the tag list to further narrow down your search!

Introduction to Marxism Reading List - Thanks to the /read/ matrix room (https://app.element.io/#/group/+leftyread:matrix.org)

Absolute Beginners Tier:

'Principles of Communism' by Friedrich Engels

'Three Source and Three Component Parts of Marxism' by V.I. Lenin

Not a book but Halim Alrah's youtube channel is good for the absolutely basics of Marxism but obviously not a replacement for reading

Marx and Engels Reading List

Tier 1:

'Manifesto of the Communist Party'

'Critique of the Gotha Programme'

'Socialism: Utopian and Scientific'

Tier 2:

'Wage Labour and Capital'

'Value, Price and Profit'

'Theses on Feuerback'

By this point you should have a good understanding of the basics of Marxism and are ready to branch out to other theorists and also read Capital.

Tier 3:

'Capital vol.1'

Lenin Reading List - By Moo (aka Zizekposter)

Lenin Essentials:

'State and Revolution'

'“Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder'

'Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism'

Petit Bourgeois Philistine Tier:

'What is to be done'

'The Proletarian Revolution and Renegade Kautsky'

'Two Tactics of Social Democracy in the Democratic Revolution'

ADHD Tier:

'Socialism and Religion'

'Zizek's Introduction to Revolution at the Gates'

'Revolutionary Adventurism'

MLM Reading List


Why MLM?

Marxism-Leninism-Maoism Basic Course

'Continuity and Rupture: Philosophy in the Maoist Terrain'


'On Practice & Contradiction'

'On Guerrilla Warfare'

'On Protracted War'


'Fanshen: A Documentary of Revolution in a Chinese Village'

'Red Star Over China' - Edgar Snow

'The Unknown Cultural Revolution' - Dongpin Han


Interview With Chairman Gonzalo

General line of the PCP

'Shining Path: Terror and Revolution in Peru' - Simon Strong


Operation “Green Hunt” in India

Eight Historic Documents (AZAD)

'Urban Perspective'


Araling Aktibista - Activist Study ARAK

'Stand for Socialism Against Modern Revisionism'

'Philippine Society and Revolution'
https://bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/1970s PhilippineSocietyAndRevolution-4ed.pdf

Political Economy:

'Rethinking Socialism' – Deng-yuan Hsu & Pao-yu Ching

'China: A Modern Social-Imperialist Power' - CPI(Maoist)

'Maoist Economics & the Revolutionary Road to Communism' - The Shanghai Textbook

Leftcom Reading Lists

r/marxism101's reading list:

r/bruhinternational's reading list:


'The Democratic Principle'

'Proletarian Dictatorship and Class Party'

'The Spirit of Horsepower'

'Report on Fascism'


'The Lyons Theses'

'Theory and Action in Marxist Doctrine'

'Dialogue with Stalin'


'World Revolution and Communist Tactics'

'Party and Class'

Herman Gorter:

'Open Letter to Comrade Lenin'

'The World Revolution'

Bookchin Reading Lists - based off of posts by Gorm1918 (pbuh)

'The Next Revolution'

'Urbanization Without Cities'

'The 3rd Revolution'

'The Ecology of Freedom'

Links to Resources and Libraries:

More Marx and Engels:


Other Selected Marxists:

Classical Works Recommended To High-Ranking Cadres:

Many important books can be found on libgen:

Libcom has some good books/documents:

Other links:

Various assortment of historical and biographical works:

The Leftist Bookshelf (4.16 GB, 600+ files)
This was originally a torrent but I can't find the link anymore. Its description was: "640 eBooks, mostly in PDF format (a bunch are CHM, DJVU or ePUB), from a revolutionary Leftist viewpoint. The main subjects are politics and philosophy, history, economics, and much much more."

Political Theory (MLM) (2.64 GB, 550+ files)
I found this on reddit years ago (circa 2016) Don't really remember who made it or where it came from, but this is a reading course (politics, philosophy, economics, etc) focused on Maoism. Has many books and articles on the USSR, PRC, Stalin, Mao, etc.

The Anarchist Library (669 MB, 4000+ files)
This is a complete mirror of the anarchist library with pdfs and epubs

Little Bunker of Marxism-Leninism (680 MB, 100+ files)
Unfinished project focused on M-L with more than 100 books on several topics like history, economics, politics, etc. Lots of stuff on the USSR.

Historical Materialism series (330 MB, 100+ files)
A pdf archive of over 100 books from the Historical Materialism book series. I got this from thecharnelhouse.org years ago and the website had released many marxist books from other publishers but unfortunately it's been taken down.

/leftypol/ with a slash of liberty (239 MB, 100+ files)
I didn't make this, just reuploading it. This is a classic /leftypol/ link, marxist stuff mixed with anarchism.

Marx & Engels Collected Works (900+ MB, 50 files)
The official, complete works of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels organized in 50 volumes and 3 categories.
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/Internet Trash General/ - endless eceleberry
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dengists gtfih

redpill me on socialism by 2050/socialism with chinese characteristics/deng xiaoping theory. if you are not a dengist or don't believe that china is headed for socialism by 2050, please don't bother commenting
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What do people think the consequences of the FGC-9 and the advent of 3D printed guns and weapons more broadly will be?

How will this affect revolutionary as well as reactionary violence? Will be see a rise in paramilitary organisations on the left capable of enforcing political demands, or is this just a going to lead to more fascist lone wolf attacks.

link to a documentary below
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Why doesn’t the US military do state planning?
Why do they rely on overpriced, over-designed, over complicated poopoo made by weapons contractors?
Don’t they wanna win wars?
Why did they choose logistical chains and weapons manufacture outsourcing in such a way as to ensure defeat in any long term engagement?
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What's with all these idiots sayings "ultra left"

What's the point of calling Maoists ultra-left when they're the ones waging significant and large-scale revolutions across the world? Bruh there are actual ultra-leftists like Trots and Left-coms who don't do shit and just complain about what Marx "really" said.
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Europeans are more primed for fascism than any other people on this planet

>Most Europeans gleefully supported far-right parties as a consequence of seeing dirty brown people on the street
>Europeans blame their own filth on Americans despite embracing fascism multiple times in their history like the dogs they are
>Europe currently embracing “Fortress Evropa”, which is the idea of slaughtering refugees and migrants at the border who are fleeing either European economic imperialism, European imperialist warmongering, or climate catastrophe primarily caused by Europeans and Americans
>Europeans gleefully support Fortress Europe and want to slaughter as many muslims and brown immigrants as they can
>Every single person denying climate change and ecology in this board is either a European or American cockroach utterly devoted to sacrificing the Global South to themselves, each and every one of these people WILL support the Fourth Reich I don’t give a fuck if you call yourselves communists since you think Indians, Africans, Arabs, Latins, and everyone else need to die for your consumption
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porky Strikes Again with another interesting propaganda story that isn't real apparently some people didn't enjoy life in socialist East Germany because I don't know they do like the free healthcare or the progressive laws. East Germany at the time was a paradise kinda.
All I can tell you is East German defector stories are all propaganda and this video is still the most retarded pragerU bulshit imaginable
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>wahh they don't have a hammer and sickle do they must be reactionary!!

Why are western leftists so proprietary over socialism? Isn't it kinda disgusting that those in the imperial core try to define who is and isn't left?

>The desire to denounce any protest movement which isn’t explicitly communicating its Marxist-Leninist intent in the English language as a colour revolution ultimately is both ignorant and self-defeating. It ignores the hard work and radical action of comrades who aren’t extremely active on sites like Reddit or Twitter catering to the whims of the western left. Such denouncements instead promote a liberal-washed account of events drawn from western media. It also denies agency to our comrades in the global south if we start with the baseline assumption that they are powerless to the mastery of the west. A classic trope in the western canon, that ‘the world revolves around Cleethorpes’. Regions in the global south have their own complex political cultures that don’t always fit the same paradigms seen in the west. In Thailand for example, it’s common to see Maoist forming non-hierarchical mutual aid groups and Anarchists raising the hammer and sickle flag. The cooperation between the comrades behind this very publication is further evidence of that.

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Welp edition
Live Updates: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Global Tracker: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
The mod team asks you to please limit all covid discourse outside the mainstream media (vaccine skepticism, mask non-compliance, etc..) to this thread
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Things that surprised you as you left the main stream

ITT: Post indisputable, factual discoveries you made about the world that challenged the mainstream capitalist/imperial media narratives that you were raised inside of.

These can be things you learned that lead to your escape, or things that just seem so weird looking back. There are many of these kind of threads in ex-religious circles, but I propose that the pro-capitalist/pro-western-imperialism delusions are often just as absurd.

Some examples:

>"North Korea", while strange in some ways, isn't nearly as weird as media makes it out to be (super nuclear trigger-happy, deluded to think unicorns exist, no electricity and people pushing trains to work, the rat ate my grandma and the dog ate the rat in the sewer and we had to eat the dog and it was so sad)

>China only has 4 overseas military bases (Djibouti, Myanmar, Tajikistan, Pakistan). Compare with France (many bases in 15 nations), Singapore (8+ in 4 nations), Turkey (many in in 10 nations), UK (16 nations) and USA (hundreds in 51 nations, including many aggressively-placed ones in Asia Pacific) [source: wikipedia] Additionally, they have a third of the spending, even despite a larger military by personnel count (only total, not per capita) [wikipedia]

>Cuba isn't starving and is at the forefront of medical research

>99% of the world's nations, including all 4 of US's anglo allies, think they should stop blockading Cuba

>China isn't full communism L. Mao

>most Russians, even under current corrupt oligarchic hierarchy, have better work benefits (like time off work, sick leave, parent/maternity leave, overtime) than most Americans.
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the eternal leaf

>Jordan Peterson
>Lauren Southern
>Faith Goldy
>Gavin McInnes
Why the fuck are so many reactionaries leafs? Is it because leafland is just burger lite? Every time I read about some "burger" rightoid it turns out they're actually a fucking LEAF who moved to burgerland to become a nazi or something.
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🗽United States Politics🦅


Thread for petit discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the earth.


News livestreams:
CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFEegalitarianism
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Gavin McInnes

What the fuck is up with this guy? How did some scottish hipster who made a magazine end up turning into a reactionary who started a far right street gang?

>While waiting, I contacted Jim Goad, the so-called godfather of the new right, author of The Redneck Manifesto and one of McInnes’ favorite writers. I considered McInnes an associate. In a case of strange bedfellows, I considered Goad a pal. But he was direct, frank and baffled in regards to the Proud Boys. “Half of those guys are Catholics now, but they were Sieg Heiling three years ago,” he said.

>A former associate of McInnes in Los Angeles who declined to be identified because he didn’t want to get dragged into “all of this” offered a clue. “What people forget is that Gavin comes from money. He’s never been broke and is not broke now,” he told me. “So this is really class war for him. Not race, sex or religion. It’s about his class prerogative to do whatever the fuck he wants.”
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Ghislaine Maxwell Trial begins today

Unfortunately because this is a Federal Court Trial. We will not have any live feeds of the trial. I will have streams of news coverage and Livestreams outside the courthouse.

We can use this thread for discussion and updates. Today is opening statements for the trial.

(I personally don't care about the trial but there's enough interest in seeing so I'll support the community the best I can.)

Related: Tomorrow, Kim Potter Jury Selection begins. (Cop who yelled taser and pulled gun and killed a Black person during the Derek Chauvin/Death of George Floyd trial)

Busy week but so glad we have people back. (Bossignostic is back.)

I'm always needing people who want to help out with keeping channels going during these events. Hit me up in Cytube if you want to assist.

Link: https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash

I will get a backup channel going soon tonight and new a train channel by the end of this week.
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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general

A general thread for all China related discussion.

Original threads:
leftypol.org archives:
bunekrchan.xyz archives:
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>The International Conference to Review the Global Vision of the Holocaust was a two-day conference in Tehran, Iran that opened on December 11, 2006

>There were 67 attendees from 30 countries.[11][12]

>American David Duke, a former Louisiana State Representative and ex-Ku Klux Klan leader, attended the conference. Politician Georges Theil, a member of the French National Front who was convicted under France's Holocaust denial laws, attended, as did the German-Australian Fredrick Töben, founder and head of the Adelaide Institute who had been imprisoned in Germany for three months in 1999 for Holocaust denial.[10][13] Robert Faurisson, a convicted Holocaust denier from France also attended

>Psychologist Bendikt Frings, a leading member of the German National Democratic Party (NPD), was invited by Iranian Deputy Minister of Islamic Guidance Mohammad-Ali Ramin; Frings said that he had waited for such a conference "all my childhood".[16][17] The NPD is often considered the most significant Neo-Nazi party in Germany.[18][19]

Iran is a very strange country, it seems to have combined Iranic nationalism with Shia Islamic identity to create something wholly unique
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What would you do if you were living in Nazi Germany?

>Be me 24 in Nazi Germany 1933.
>Speed run Defection to USSR before German borders get closed they let me immigrate because I understand Marxism Leninism and I fake that I was in the German communist party until it was banned.
>Survive great patriotic war as they don't fully trust a German on the front lines better to keep 32 year old me in a factory.
>Becuase I am German ML .jpeg and have worked hard in USSR for 15 years or so become East German politician.
>Find way to prove I am from future I should be able to as its true and I am in a respected position.
>warn Stalin about revisionism occurring after socialist state formation.
>Warn Stalin about Khrushchevite coup
>Teach Stalin Marxism Leninism Maoism from the future Mao also adds thoughts to modern MLM
>USSR cultural revolution to stop revisionism
>Eastern Europe cultural revolution to stop revisionism
>China and all non industrialised Marxist states given aid and do cultural revolution.
>All communist party's globally militarising under Maoism instead of lets be peaceful and hate Stalin cucking under Khrushchev revisionism.
>Anti revisionist states pumping supply's, finance and army support to the militarized communist parties globally.
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/leftydeutschpol/ - Deutschland General

Letzter Pfaden wurde dank der /Pol/acken vom Brett gepusht. Deshalb ein neues Deutschland General.
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News 12/6/21

Former Farc leader reportedly killed by mercenaries
According to Colombian media, Hernan Dario Velasquez, known as El Paisa, was killed in an attack by mercenaries seeking to get a reward for his capture. The killing took place in the state of Apure near the Venezuelan border with Colombia.

Free Peru Party Won't Support Impeachment Against Castillo
On Monday, Free Peru (PL) party Secretary Vladimir Cerron announced that lawmakers who belong to his organization will unanimously vote against the presidential dismissal request issued by far-right politician Patricia Chirinos before the Parliament.

Major Venezuela opposition leader quits interim government
The interim government is not serving its purpose, Borges, whose differences with Guaidó are well-known, said in an online news conference. “The (interim) government makes sense as an instrument to get out of the dictatorship. But at this moment, in our way of seeing it, the interim government has been damaged,” Borges said. “Instead of being an instrument to fight the dictatorship, the interim government has become a kind of … caste,” he said.

Palestinian Action activists found not guilty of criminal damage
THREE Palestine activists who splashed red paint on an Israeli-owned arms factory in Britain were found not guilty of criminal damage today. The Palestine Action activists targeted the UAV Engines factory of Israeli-owned Elbit Systems in Shenstone in Staffordshire in February and were arrested.

Turkish police arrest alleged members of far-left organization
Police detained 25 individuals for alleged ties to the Revolutionary People's Liberation Party-Front (DHKP-C) in Istanbul, Ankara and other parts of the country. Another 18 people are wanted by the authorities, the official Anadolu Agency reported.

NPA Launches 3 Successful Military Actions Against Security Forces In Negros Oriental Province
Around 8 pm last December 3, 2021, red fighters of the LPC-NPA launched a sniping operation on the CAFGU detachment in Barangay Guba, Vallehermoso, Negros Oriental province. 1 soldier was killed in action. The troops in the detachment are notorious for human rights violations in the area, harassing civilians that they suspect to be NPA supporters and dislocating the livelihood of the locals in the process.

China calls for better international consultation over monetary policy to ensure ‘fairer’ international environment
The Chinese authorities want “more effective” monetary coordination with developed countries to ensure a “fairer” international environment, a foreign exchange official said on Saturday. The warning from Lu Lei, deputy head of the State Administration of Foreign Exchange, is the latest evidence that Beijing is on high alert for a policy turnaround from the US Federal Reserve despite repeated assurances that it is well prepared.

Scientists reveal purpose of giant monolith in Australia, and it’s grim
Researchers are constructing a ‘black box’ in Australia, a device that they say is meant to survive climate change disasters and warn future survivors about humanity’s mistakes. Described as a “tool,” the monolith is being “built to outlive us all” and will be constructed in a remote location on the island of Tasmania, Australian scientists told ABC News.

'We Won't Stop Fighting,' Vow South African Activists After Judge OKs Shell Seismic Blasting at Sea
South African activists on Monday vowed to keep fighting after a court ruling allowing fossil fuel giant Shell to proceed with massive underwater explosions off the ecologically sensitive Wild Coast, a move environmentalists say would cause "irreparable harm" to marine life.

Putin to Land in India With Eye on Military, Energy Ties
Russian President Vladimir Putin arrived in India on Monday for just his second overseas trip since the pandemic, seeking to bolster military and energy ties with a traditional ally being courted by Washington. In its efforts to address a rising China, Washington has set up the QUAD security dialogue with India, Japan, and Australia, raising concerns in both Beijing and Moscow.
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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism

A grande richiesta e dopo un'inutile e penosa scissione, rieccoci.sandinistaSandinista
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<I tried using reddit - and the stereotypes are totally true. It's a hugbox filled with hipster liberals who downboat everything that breaks with their hive mind and they can't handle the bants. Seriously. I lasted about one day interacting with these smug motherfuckers before running back to the chaniverse. Reddit is peak midwit and peak smug. Quoting from a previous effortpost:

>Reddit is a website with a decent concept but a bad UI and worse userbase. Yes, as a channer the typical image of a “redditor” comes to mind. A limp dick neckbeard soyboy with a rick and morty t-shirt. Reddit is the Thomas Edison of websites, its users steal all their content from people that actually make original content, repost it, and then act like they invented the whole thing. A perfect encapsulation of middle class bland yuppie suburban consumer culture, a circlejerk which produces nothing original and never will. Part of the broader disneyfication and pg-13ification of a sterile and desexed pop culture, with a good dose of smarmy smarter than thou smugness and milquetoast center-left politics thrown on top. Peak midwit. Certain subreddits are niche and good. Reddit evolved to replace a lot of the old school bulletin board forums for niche gaming/auto/etc interests. At least its based on shared interests and not personality based drama. Like/Dislike and karma system encourages the same hivemind and performative posting BS as with twitter. At worst as a “link aggregator” it simply acts as a comment system for articles on websites that don’t have their own comment section.

What is the materialist explanation for reddit being so shit? Will a future socialist society have reddit or a reddit equivalent?
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>get involved in IRL praxis
>forget leftypol exists
>visit again after a long time
>same shit
>Sage still filtered
>threads filled with namefags, junko, et al. making this place indistinguishable from lemmy.ml
>nothing of value being discussed
>same old shit
>make a post like this
>log off
anyone else?
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OC Thread 10.0

Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.

Previous thread: >>>/leftypol_archive/216284
This is the place where you can find all /leftypol/ memes n' shit
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Ok hear me out /leftypol/
Anarchists hate Trotsky because of what he did to the black army.
Marxist-leninists hate Trotsky cause he was a wrecker inside of the party.
Marxist-leninist = anti-trotsky
Anarchists = anti-trotsky
Marxist-leninists = Anarchists
Could a united front be made in our shared hatred of trots?
Can the black and red finally unite in hatred towards one man and his legions of newspaper sellers?
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How many russian soldiers died in WW2?

In history class today we learnt Soviet military casualties were particularly high, 20-27 million for soldiers and another 20 million for civilians. No source was provided but it was accepted as factual.
I want to hear where these 20-27 million figures came from, because as far as I remember most deaths were civilian due to the Germans attempting to genocide their population?
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/brg/ ==Brasil General== /brg/

Tucanato Fiasco Edition

The traditional liberal party (less then 5% vote in 2018) had their primary's today. While only having about 40k voters their app broke and they had to cancel the vote

last thread: >>>/leftypol_archive/483891
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Caleb Maupin is right about everything to be quite honest. This new essay is great
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I often see /pol/yps complain about the fact that Fascism is not tolerated in the modern west, but they never ask themselves why that is. They automatically blame it on history being written by the victors, as well as Marxist thought being accepted in the western world.

Neither of these is true, Fascism is not tolerated because it is antithetical to liberalism, which is in essence what every single society in the west has as a base for its entire system.
Social-Democratic societies are almost all death or transformed into liberal societies after the 90s, so there's not that many Marxists out there actively ostracizing Fascists, its left or right-wing liberals.

There's also the fact that Fascism had and still has zero backing by any intellectuals, Fascism did not arise from intellectual thought, it was a societal reaction AGAINST Marxism and the upper-middle class, in Germany's case even created by the person they felt aligned to most, their monarch.
They wrote very little worth reading, even as a Fascist, and I would argue that some of the most prominent Fascists like Adolf Hitler wrote terrible literature. If you want to know what kind of Fascism Hitler believed in, you actually have to read his Table Talks, a book that wrote down some of his thoughts and feelings during the war, and it doesn't exactly paint him as a guy worth following with his talks about kidnapping French children and whatnot.

Lastly Fascism is a self-isolating genealogy of a white European peoples that want to unify, excluding at least 2/3th of the world, it's not an appealing thought to most because most people would be considered lesser people.
Many Fascists actively talked down on their own race, Slavs and Southern Europeans, and small minority groups of non-Indo European origins were often targeted by them as lesser beings that needed to be treated as such.
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Question for Liberal "Moral Relativists"

Why are unfounded meta-ethical systems which DONT appeal to the supposed dictates of some diety superior to to unfounded meta-ethical systems which DO appeal to the supposed dictates of some diety??
Simply put,
How is it any way shape or form OBJECTIVELY superior to believe in self admittedly constructed enlightenment ideals such as
>"Human Rights"
then to beieve in the dictates of some
>"Invisible man in the sky"
And more over,
Why OUGHT states be governed by your moral norms when they are (again, self admittedly) just as unfounded as the moral norms of rleigion which you EXPLICITLY claimed were illigitmate systems to derive governance from
SUPER fucking simply put,
(so some of you may actually have the base level intelligence giving you the capability to respond)
Why is your self admittedly invented bullshit morality more worthy of state backing then the supposedly invented morality of theists???
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Agriculture, Climate Change and Praxis

I've written an essay about agriculture, climate change and praxis.

I've tried to describe how our modern agricultural system works, the problems with it, and what alternative systems could exist that are communist or socialist in nature.

I've been influenced a lot by communizers, communalism and anarcho-syndicalism. Any feedback is appreciated.

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/UOE/ Union of Egoists general

A thread to discuss the enlightened philosophy of egoism and its life-changing profundities. Fellow egoists preferred, but my property who are skeptical may also participate if they are inquisitive and well-meaning.

To spur discussion, here are a few suggested prompts:

1. How does egoism get us out of the befuddled quagmire of modern ideological spooks? Modern politics is a veritable haunted house of spooks.

2. What is the most virulent/pernicious spook? How do we defeat it?

3. How might a society based on egoism function? Does it necessitate a platonic "noocracy", rule of the wise? What differentiates it from vulgar libertarianism or shameless materialistic individualism ?

4. What social responsibility does an egoist hold for society? Do you take the extreme view that they owe society nothing, or a more tempered view that involves consensual and voluntary/free association ?

5. What are the limits of egoist philosophy?What are its philosophical, epistemological, and ontological implications?
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Anons with leftist families, talk about em'

Obviously not asking you to doxx yourselves or anything of the sort, just trying to have a conversation about what it's like to actually grow up in a left-leaning environment. As a burger, very few of us come from openly communist/socialist families, but I am from a family of union workers and I know other guys who are and who later became communists because of those values. Despite still having burger-mind poisoning, I was thankfully able to grow up without a lot of the spooks that typically accompany growing up under the spectacle of burgerdom.

How left-leaning is your family? Anybody descended from partisans or revolutionaries? If you have kids do you intend to raise them as good little reds or let them learn about the world themselves? any stories about your family relevant to leftist movements and the like?
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>McVeigh's death sentence was delayed pending an appeal. One of his appeals for certiorari, taken to the Supreme Court of the United States, was denied on March 8, 1999. McVeigh's request for a nationally televised execution was also denied. At ADX Florence, McVeigh and Nichols were housed in "Bomber's Row", the same cell block as Ted Kaczynski, Luis Felipe and Ramzi Yousef. Yousef made frequent, unsuccessful attempts to convert McVeigh to Islam.

Imagine a white nationalist, a Palestinian Islamist, a practicing anarcho primitivist and a cuban american gang leader all sharing a single cell block together, how would their ideologies have clashed and what conversations they could have had
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will Trump be the foundation for Christian anti-racist socialism to deprecate the Republican and Democratic parties? It seems like vaccine mandates are bringing together the rural white and urban black anti-establishment bases.
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Hilo general Latinoamérica--LatAm general thread

The other thread was full.
Anything Latinoamérica related, let's unite in discussion while the CIA-funded military hasn't decide to torture us to death for the time being.
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Socialist Patriotism

Despite what most baizuo think, there is no contradiction between being both a socialist and a patriot in America, regardless of its origin as a settler-colonialist venture, and its current status as the leading imperialist power. Many baizuo have incorrectly gone so far as to equate patriotism and nationalism, claiming that for socialists, patriotism represents an affront to the principles of internationalism and that socialists that speak in patriotic terms are both inconsistent and on the road to red-brownism.
This can't be further from the truth. The fact of the matter is that for all we can say of its founding, America has a mighty and authentically progressive tradition that has been present from the beginning. The war for independence threw off the imperial yoke and founded a republic that for the first time, based itself on the same enlightenment ideals that would be weaponized in the forthcoming anti-slavery crusade, and the struggle against European colonialism worldwide. The baizou anarcho-gonzaloist burn-it-all-down approach, on the other hand, has done nothing but isolate and alienate the left from the people of America since the 1960s.

In spite of these autistic brain worms parroted by the baizuo, the reality of the American people is not going anywhere. The actual relationship between patriotism and socialism historically becomes clear once the track record of the 19th and 20th centuries are examined, showing that socialists and communists have consistently been patriotic and deeply attuned to the national realities of the countries they hail from. The only reason why the question why patriotism has now come to the fore is because up until recently it has been a given. It is still a given in the vast majority of countries today.
It is only in America, and those under the influence of it's empire, where those under the sway of American exceptionalism remain dominant on the left, that baizuo imagine they can elevate themselves above national realities, and speak on the behalf of an abstract working class, uprooted and estranged from it's particular national reality. Historically speaking, it is a plain and obvious fact that communists were always patriotic, rooted in the national traditions of their respective countries.

Socialism in America will have American characteristics. By assuming that only the third world proletariat is capable of attaining a revolutionary character, so-called Maoists (read: Ma-autists) in America commit the inverse error of western social democrats of the early 20th century. Both share a lack of dialectical thinking, because they assume that America and her people are an "exception". They might label socialism with American characteristics "Browderism", but it is in fact they who are the Browderists, if only inversely.
Marx, who spoke of the unity of working people from all countries in The Communist Manifesto, states in the same work that:
>Though not in substance, yet in form, the struggle of the proletariat with the bourgeoisie is at first a national struggle.
Twenty-seven years later in his Critique of the Gotha Programme, Marx stated:
>It is altogether self-evident that […] the working class must organize itself at home as a class and that its own country is the immediate arena of its struggle.
Mao stated:
>Can a Communist, who is an internationalist, at the same time be a patriot? We hold that he not only can be but also must be.

I love my country, I love my people. I am a patriot.
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Why are Americans so ignorant about the history of communism in their own country?

Watching all these history lectures about the CPUSA, IWW, etc. is bewildering. Why the fuck was I not taught about any of this in high school? Why was the “threat” of communism portrayed as something irrational and the Red Scares came out of nowhere when in fact communists were numerous in America and were extremely dedicated? Or the fact that the communists were the only ones fighting for Black people in the 1920s and 30s when most white Americans didn’t even see Black people as human?

I feel seriously cheated.
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another day in shit world huh

>politico bought out by right-wing axel springer se
>buzzfeed goes public, lays off hundreds
>trump merges his "truth" thing with digital world acquisition to do god knows what
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>multiply the money supply by a factor of 3, like in the US in 2009
>pre-keyensian predictions and chicago school predict PRICES TRIPLE
>keynes predicts no inflation.
The result— No inflation beyond the normal few percent.

>Russia in 1996, when the money supply was multiplied by something like 5

>prediction was hyperinflation.
The result— Nothing happened.

This happens every time.
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Socialist Morality

If we say "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" where does that leave ethics? Does this not free us to do anything with the excuse "there are no ethical choices". Consume the fruits of slave labor, or fair labor, it's all unethical so who cares. Buy from Amazon instead of your local exploiter, because they're both exploiters.
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I burn with anger and umcontrollable rage over what governments can freely do to thwir citizens. Floggings, disfiguration, surgical blinding all with the consent of the self righteous fucks that support it, celebrate it and want it in my homeland. I wish to travel to singapore or iran and blow myself up in the middle of a crowded market just to punish the populace for accepting and endorsing such tyranny. I want to hunt down proponents of tyranny in my country and their sympathizers and disfigure thembin worst ways possible and hear them squeal for mercy as I pop their little eyes between my fingers, pulverize their hands with a hammer and force them to eat their own organs. Fuck them and fuck all of you who support this shit. This thread is just a vemt so I dont actually go insane.

>inb4 cope

no cope. only seethe from now on
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Islamic terrorism general

Far right terrorism? Check
Islamic terrorism? I guess no threads have been created about this topic…

Discuss everything about Islamic terrorism here; if you have any news updates on terrorist attacks committed by Islamists, post them here.
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Please give me some good Pro-North Korean arguments for why they "started" the war. I heard the US sent murder groups up north, is that accurate?
Also, is it true that Korea was united and democratically decided to be socialist? Can i get your input on that plz
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South Korean Dictator Dies, Western Media Resurrects A Myth
>The death of South Korean dictator Chun Doo Hwan signals the consolidation of a false media narrative. This is misleading and dangerous.
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Cia exposed for hoarding child porn and sex crimes on kids -buzzfeednews

75 FOIA pages of CIA agents being caught hoarding child porn of molesting kids



Buzzfeednews article on this. Took them 10 years to gather all these reports. The full FOIA is over 3000 pages.

To give a quote from article as a taste

>At a symposium in 2016, Daniel Payne, a top Pentagon security official, said that when workers’ computers were examined, “the amount of child porn I see is just unbelievable.”


Twitter of person who acquired these documents
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New Multitude- an interview with Prapimphan Chiengkul

>Prapimphan Chiengkul’s book Labour under Corbynism (Palgrave 2021) takes a neo-Gramscian look at the UK Labour Party under the leadership of Jeremy Corbyn. This approach is rooted in the work of Robert Cox, a theorist who saw that political struggle was always constrained by a somewhat coherent bond of ideas, material forces and institutions. Nevertheless such configurations are not always stable and can be overturned by counter-hegemonic movements. In terms of the State, this means that they are not blunt instruments to be won and wielded, but spaces and institutions whose dominant working logic is and can be shaped by the forces within them. For Chiengkul, ‘Corbynism’ was an attempt at building a new hegemonic bloc, one that appeared to be concerned with redistribution and a certain amount of democratising the forces of capital. However, Brexit, a major crisis of the UK State, called for a strong narrative of identity and values, something the Corbyn administration were unable to provide and thus the counter-hegemonic project failed. The Conservatives, on the other hand, owing to a favourable constellation of institutions and structures, were able to forge a new bloc, while still being unable to truly solve the systemic conditions that had led to the crisis in the first place.

>We spoke with Prapimphan Chiengkul about her book and some of the questions it raises.

full interview:
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How likely is dystopia, compared to utopia or a middle of the road scenario? IMO a pure dystopia isn't that likely and fictional dystopias and more like political commentaries on the present, cyberpunk was a commentary on 80s/90s neoliberalism and Reaganism, a future that never really came to be. A fictional dystopia, doomer-communism is more like revolutionary agitprop of what capitalism would eventually lead to if not stopped.

In reality it won't be socialism or barbarism in the near future but a sort of half-barbarism where capitalism must be modified heavily to cope with its own internal contradictions.
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Were the Nazis popular in the 80s?
I don’t know why but the 1980s seems like a time when the Nazis would have been popular again
Like maybe it’s Reagan and neoliberalism and the second half of the Cold War, just seems like it
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Could a revolution of the workers against the managers work?

I know managing is an important job in the managing of a company, but why should the manager get all the profits to himself and pay the worker a minimum after all?
Maybe if it was the worker officially paying the manager to manage, the profits would be of the workers, maybe in some kind of mutual fund.
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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees

Második felvonás!
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Chairman Gonzalo’s Immortal Contribution: Defining Marxism-Leninism-Maoism


By Jakob Stein
Chairman Gonzalo is known for achieving many things in his life—he is a great revolutionary whose leadership guides the Communist Party of Peru (PCP, Partido Comunista del Perú) and Peruvian people in an armed struggle against exploitation and oppression: the People’s War. When captured in 1992, he became the world’s foremost political prisoner, holding his post with honor for 29 years of inhumane imprisonment and sacrificing his life for the World Proletarian Revolution. However, his greatest achievement is the ideological leadership he has given to the people of the world by defining the ideology of the proletariat, Marxism-Leninism-Maoism (MLM, or simply Maoism). Maoism is at once universal, meaning it can be applied to the various conditions of all the countries of the world, and invincible, because it will inevitably guide the emancipation of the proletariat through the fight for Communism, leading towards the emancipation of all of humanity.

Through the People’s War in Peru, Chairman Gonzalo applied this universal ideology to the specific conditions of the country, generating what is called “Gonzalo Thought.” This Thought contains certain lessons that people around the world can learn from and apply, referred to by revolutionaries as “the contributions of universal validity of Chairman Gonzalo.”

Both Maoism and Chairman Gonzalo’s contributions of universal validity are currently guiding revolutionaries around the globe to form organizations of the proletariat (Communist Parties) in order to overthrow the old order and create a new world free of exploitation and oppression. The proletariat is the most revolutionary class, because it is the working class, those who have nothing to lose but their chains. As the proletariat, laboring and struggling at the point of production, we are in the position to conquer Power from the bourgeoisie, the owners of capital who rule the world today. Maoism is the only ideology that can guide our class towards humanity’s Communist future where the state, money, and classes are obsolete.

What Is Marxism-Leninism-Maoism?
Chairman Gonzalo, in the document “On Marxism-Leninism-Maoism” by the Communist Party of Peru, stated:
“What is fundamental in Maoism? What is fundamental in Maoism is Power. Power for the proletariat, Power for the dictatorship of the proletariat, Power based on an armed force led by the Communist Party.”

In the proletariat’s struggle for Power, they require weapons, but more explicitly, they need the most advanced ideological weaponry. Maoism is this weapon. As Chairman Gonzalo identified, it is potent because it concentrates on answering the primary question for the proletariat, the question of Power. Chairman Gonzalo put forward that we must apply Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, principally Maoism, because Maoism principally forms the basis for answering the questions of the World Proletarian Revolution today.

Maoism is not simply the addition of new concepts to Marxism, the foundation for the proletariat’s ideology. Maoism further develops the ideology entirely with lessons learned through the class struggle and confronting new problems in the revolution and development of socialism in China under the leadership of Chairman Mao Zedong, as well as in the People’s War in Peru under the leadership of Chairman Gonzalo.

Maoism was immediately preceded by Marxism-Leninism, which was an advance of Marxism based on the emergence of imperialism and drawing from the lessons of the Great October Socialist Revolution and the construction of the first socialist society in the Soviet Union. It was Joseph Stalin who synthesized the theories of Vladimir Lenin and his application of Marxism to the Soviet Union into Leninism, or Marxism-Leninism. Mao built upon Marxism-Leninism, through his leadership of the People’s War, the development of socialism, and the struggle against the restoration of capitalism in China. These monumental struggles are what Chairman Gonzalo synthesized into Maoism.

To more deeply understand how Chairman Gonzalo established Maoism as the third and superior stage of Marxism one must look at how it advances Marxism in each of its three component parts: philosophy, political economy, and scientific socialism.

Dialectical Materialism: Philosophy of the Proletariat
With regard to philosophy, Marxism-Leninism-Maoism is based in dialectical materialism. Dialectics is a philosophical understanding of the world in which nothing is static, but is characterized by opposing forces that are always in motion, always changing. We see dialectics in play in physics, biology, and in society—proletariat against the bourgeoisie, the oppressed nations against the imperialists, and socialism against capitalism. In Lenin’s words, “Dialectics in the proper sense is the study of contradiction in the very essence of objects.”

Materialism, the other half of the equation, is also a philosophical understanding which puts forward the idea that the material world, objective reality, is foundational in people’s understanding of life and the world. Our ideas and culture did not come from an abstract God or fall from the sky; they are directly related to the material reality we live in—from the jobs we work and the bills we pay to the food we eat and the clothes we wear on our backs.

Mao further developed Marxist philosophy by establishing the law of contradiction as the only fundamental law of dialectical materialism. The law of contradiction is the basis for everything else in dialectical materialism. Everything in the world is a unity of opposites, made up of either a single pair of opposites or multiple pairs that give each thing their identity. “Dark” is only relevant because of its relationship with “light”; the same is true for “positive” and “negative,” “man” and “woman,” and “proletarians” and “capitalists.” Furthermore, everything can transform into its opposite through struggle, and understanding this process drives the understanding of making revolution itself. This law of contradiction can be applied to anything and everything in society, and Mao did this in politics, economics, military strategy, culture, and within the Communist Party itself. It is the basis for all of Mao’s other contributions.

Another major contribution to Marxist philosophy was Mao’s application of the law of contradiction to the theory of knowledge. Simply put, theory and practice are in contradiction with one another—people can only test and improve their ideas through practice and vice versa . This is a key lesson for revolutionaries fighting for socialism across the world. We can see how Mao testing Marxist-Leninist theory in China and Chairman Gonzalo’s application of Maoism to the Peruvian Revolution allowed them to discover new things which improve our understanding of how to fight for Power.

Maoist Political Economy
It is Mao’s criticisms of socialist construction in the Soviet Union that Chairman Gonzalo says are most important for understanding how Mao developed the political economy of socialism. Mao applied the law of contradiction to analyze the shortfalls in the first attempt to create a socialist economy, and changed the way socialists look at the relationship between a society’s economic base and its superstructure. The economic base refers to the forces of production and the materials and resources needed to produce. The superstructure is composed of everything else in society—ideas, culture, laws, art, etc … and the institutions that represent these.

Maoism identifies that the economic system and the relations between its opposing forces create the basis for our understanding of society—US imperialist culture is a reflection of the ruling class’s values, which puts them and their desire for wealth above the needs of the people. Mao’s contribution, however, showed that with a correct political line and by mobilizing the people around these progressive ideas, the people are in a better place to change the economic base. In other words, we cannot create a society free of exploitation and oppression simply by producing more or changing the rules around how we produce things. In order to change society and have it stick we must put politics in command of economics, utilizing the people’s fervor for revolution in order to change the economic basis of society, embodied in the slogan, “grasp revolution and promote production.”

For the Third World, Mao’s theorization of a form of capitalism he termed “bureaucratic capitalism” is critically important, and one which Chairman Gonzalo masterfully applied to Peru and in doing so developed it further. Mao explained that bureaucratic capitalism is a malformed version of capitalism which holds certain aspects of semifeudalism in place, and is subservient to imperialist countries. In such a society, poor peasants in the countryside are tethered to the land as their only livelihood, oppressed and ruled by massive landowners according to backward ideas from feudal times; and the capitalism that does develop in the cities is born sick, and is stunted by the presence of foreign imperialists who don’t care to create a self-reliant economy.

Scientific Socialism
When Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels established Marxism, they did so in the midst of great ideological struggles over different concepts of socialism stamped with the marks of various classes. Many of these came from the middle classes and were utopian, i.e., they were not based in material reality and instead in idealism, the position that ideas shape reality rather than the other way around. In contrast, Marxism put forward a conception of socialism based in dialectical and historical materialist analysis of history, and addressing the reality of the proletariat’s entrance onto the stage of world history. Because of its basis in a scientific analysis, rather than a metaphysical approach, the third component of Marxism is referred to as scientific socialism.

In the arena of scientific socialism, Mao’s biggest lessons are in how to capture Power and keep it in the hands of those who want to develop a society free of oppression and exploitation—keeping it out of the hands of the bourgeoisie who wish to restore capitalism. He knew that the workers and other oppressed masses could only seize Power through a violent overthrow of the existing State, and Mao emphasized that revolutionary violence is a law without any exception in time or place. Building on Mao, Chairman Gonzalo exclaimed, “Damn the words of traitors. Everything was won in fact through revolutionary violence.”

Mao applied the law of contradiction to military theory, creating the military strategy of the international proletariat—the People’s War. This contains a multitude of lessons, but most critically it teaches that it is the masses of people who are decisive in warfare, not superior weaponry, surveillance, or technology. The working class in the US can defeat the most advanced military in the world by mobilizing the masses, mainly workers ourselves, and relying on them as a source of combatants, resources, intelligence, and most importantly, the kind of bravery that only comes in a life-or-death struggle for their future.

Mao also improved our understanding of how enemies of the development of socialism emerge from within the movement for socialism and the Communist Party itself. He saw this in the restoration of capitalism in the Soviet Union, completed shortly after the death of Stalin, and had to deal with similar enemies within his own Party and government. These people wanted to seize control of the socialist State and its economy in order to reverse the gains for workers and peasants in the interest of enriching themselves and their allies.

Mao understood that only the masses of people, the most powerful force in the world, could fight the bourgeoisie’s attempt to drag society backwards. With this in mind, he launched the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution (GPCR), the largest mobilization of people in the history of the world, in order to bombard the Party’s headquarters and expose those who were attempting to steer the country back into capitalism and pull them out of their positions of authority. The GPCR was the highest point of socialism this world has seen to date, and it relied on the common people, developing their political consciousness and inspiring them to fight, continuing the socialist revolution even while the Communist Party was in power, grasping that an essential part of a revolution is the ongoing transformation of the people themselves.

Cultural revolution is the indispensable answer to how to continue advancing towards Communism under socialism, unleashing the power of the masses to uproot the lingering bourgeois ideas in society. Chairman Gonzalo theorized that it will take many successive cultural revolutions under socialism until Communism is reached. Communism itself must be understood as a system that the entire world enters together after this long process of revolution, which is why the the PCP raised the slogan: People’s War Until Communism! While the path is prolonged, Maoism is the reason to be optimistic, because it teaches that the masses are infinitely capable of reaching this goal.

Maoism: The Invincible Weapon
Maoism is true because it is based on a scientific understanding of how the world works and has been proven in practice over the course of many years within socialist revolution and construction, and because it is true, it is all-powerful. It is all-powerful because it can never be fully defeated and all setbacks can be overcome. Maoism is not simply a set of effective strategies one can pick and choose, but the only course forward for the emancipation of the world’s people, led by the proletariat, the last class in history.

There is much more to understand about Maoism, and this overview has only scratched the surface, but this should not be reason to feel hesitant to take on the task of learning it. At the heart of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism is the importance of putting ideas into practice, and this starts with the essential principle of Maoism, that it is right to rebel. Everyone is capable of joining the fight for revolution and seeing for oneself the truth of these ideas. The fact is that these theories have been tested and proven in the fires of rebellions and revolutions which have mobilized and liberated millions across the world.

During the time before Chairman Gonzalo synthesized the lessons of Maoism into a cohesive doctrine, the International Communist Movement did not have a clear way to apply them to their own conditions or even know whether they could be applied outside of China. It was through the practice of struggling against the opportunists, those who sought the path of least resistance,within the Communist Party of Peru, winning the revolutionaries to his line, and reconstituting the Party, and fighting the People’s War in Peru that Chairman Gonzalo was able to take the myriad teachings of Mao and create the universally applicable and unified ideology of Maoism.

Beginning in the 1980s, Chairman Gonzalo and the PCP initiated the international ideological struggle to define and universally recognize Maoism as the third and superior stage of the ideology of the proletariat, and the need to apply it to revolution across the world. Then and still today, many who claim the mantle of Communism refuse to recognize this universal nature, saying that Mao’s theories are only applicable to China or in the nations oppressed by imperialism. Still others deny Maoism in order to preserve their own status, which leads to their parties and organizations degenerating and ultimately losing their revolutionary character. This is expected—as Chairman Gonzalo said, “As what is new and Marxism have always advanced through struggle, Maoism will impose itself and be acknowledged.” Today, we see the International Communist Movement increasingly united around Maoism and the teachings of Chairman Gonzalo, as they continue to struggle ideologically and politically to create a New International Organization of the Proletariat united around Maoism.

While Chairman Gonzalo is physically gone, he is as present as ever. His immortal leadership lives on, not only in the ongoing People’s War in Peru but across the world as revolutionaries wield the weapon of Maoism he has given us in order to defeat the old world and build a new one in its place. Chairman Gonzalo’s life may have been taken by the reactionary Peruvian State and the US imperialists who pull its strings, but his ideas will never die, and they can never be taken from the people no matter how hard our enemies may try. It is now the task of revolutionaries across the world to learn, apply, and propagate Maoism as the only course forward, teaching it to other workers and oppressed masses so they can crush their enemies and advance together towards the shining Communist future.
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/leftybritpol/ - Boring OP Edition

Previous thread >>589937

Recently some migrants died and Unite cut their Labour funding again, nothing out of the ordinary. Also the Queen may die soon lol.
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Africa General #2

Because the last one keeps getting to 500 posts, then 1 post get's deleted and someone necro-bumps the 499 post thread and I'm sick of it.

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Western diplomats meet in secret with TPLF, agree to overthrow Ethiopian government



The West’s Horn of Africa experts have been meeting with a TPLF leader and TPLF/OLF supporters in secret, even as its governments claim to be impartial — TPLF’s Berhane Gebre-Christos speaks as TPLF member, proposed head of “transitional government” (limo/Uber drivers) and Washington-based Ethio-American diaspora.

Donald Yamamoto, recently the U.S. Ambassador to Somalia who just retired this year, to TPLF official Berhane Gebre-Christos:

“Abiy is not listening… Obasanjo has not been extraordinary helpful or very active, and so are there any other opportunities that you see?”

Vicki Huddleston, former U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for African Affairs and US Assistant Secretary of State for Africa to Berhane Gebre-Christos:
“I couldn’t agree more that you know, Abiy should step down, there should be an all-inclusive transition government.”

Former ambassadors and current diplomats for the United States, Britain and EU had a Zoom meeting this past Sunday with an official for the TPLF in what amounts to a green light from the West for the terrorist group’s attempts to overthrow the democratically elected Ethiopian government. And there’s evidence to prove it: a phone-cam video of the two-hour meeting.
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QTDDTOT - Questions that don't need their own thread. The last one died, so here post your questions here.

I'll start, why is a centralized authority important to achieving communism and why is this seen a positive aspect.
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interesting film called alternative maths that has some similarities to modern politics
Why does this short YouTube comedy film remind me of the stupidity of conservatism.
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which modern state do you think is the closest to the ideal of socialism - i.e., common ownership of the means of production, or any other type of socialist,.
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New Multitude- RED IS NOT DEAD

The Dutch left is going through some turbulent times, Leftypol's very own Comrade Rat writes this article on the scene and ROOD, a youth wing of the SP who were expelled for being too based

>A group called Communist Platform (CP), established as a small SP focused pressure group, grew their numbers by connecting radical communist voices within the youth. Then, starting around two years ago, they started submitting motions to the bi yearly national meetings, something met with great opposition from the “actionisme/actionistisch” (a word used to describe those who, almost like soldiers take orders but rarely think for themselves) and party loyal clique, who decried it as “nerdy loser stuff” that “broke unity” and wasted time. Communist Platform, like Marxist Unity in the USA and the RED Party in Norway, draws a lot of their strategic policy from the Orthodox-Marxist/Neo-Kautskian school, in recent years most closely associated with Mike MacNair’s book Revolutionary Strategy and it’s call for, among other things, open factions and a democratic policy making process that all members are accountable to.

>This brings us to the protracted peoples war against the SP by ROOD. At the time of writing, November 2021, we have been fighting to try and dislodge the party loyalists and retake the party, with little success. Despite having 30-40% support for our proposals for more democracy, such as reversing the purge, and allowing factions to operate openly, another 33 youth members and other adult sympathizers have been purged. We, the entirety of the youth wing, have been called terrorists by the SP board on national television, the Dutch version of the BBC. We have been labelled Trotskyist infiltrators. The website of the CP has been hacked in order to try and extract member names, with some success due to a WordPress vulnerability. SP branches in Rotterdam, Utrecht and several other cities are currently in the process of splitting off from the SP, after having their board suspended for refusing to remove purged youth members from their boards and election ballots. When the Utrecht branch was suspended, the legitimately elected old board tried to organize a final meeting with all the members, but the venue it was to be held in was intimidated by the national SP into cancelling the event.

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Lumpen Thread


In this video, author Spanian espouses the raw class conciousness of the Lumpen proletariat.

If you watch criminal youtube, prison youtube, you will see clearly 3 things

1) A lot of reactionary politics engrained


2) Raw class consciousness, derived from pure personal experience

3) An array of skills your normal sheltered babby wouldn't even dream of conceive of

4) An authentic warmth and humanity, coupled with a propensity for hard heartedness when necessary.

Yes, the lumpen are a revolutionary class. Distrust all who say otherwise. Socialism is a materialist ideology. The lumpen class do not exist due to moral failing, but to the failings of class society.

Perhaps no, they are not the revolutionary subject which has the ability to remove their labour and thus bring the capitalist mode of production to a halt, but they are a class with nothing to lose, and everything to gain, and the skills with which to get it, properly directed.

The industrial proletariat must unite with the Lumpen class, in order to create a unified working class, which is unstoppable.

Works on the other end as well, the "pmc middle class" the muh pure working class, whatever that means, and the lumpen class, all most unite against the bourgeoise and petit bourgeoise.

Cast aside your judgements. Embrace the lumpen class.


Reminder Stalin Robbed Banks
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> Hindenburg Indicator tripped for every major stock market
> treasury bond spread falling faster than it did in 2008
> fed making the repo market go brr more than they did during the 2020 crash.
> Govt suspending financial reporting requirements for corps.
> Margin accounts hitting the highest level they've been at since the 1920s.
> Fucked-if-you-do fucked-if-you-don't inflation situation: fed can't raise rates without causing a crash but if they don't inflation's gonna fuck us to death
> 4 banks own 90% of all derivatives (financial fuckery term for debt/liabilities, more complicated but I'm not gonna get into it here)
> CBO giving the economy another 60 days before inflation becomes so bad that corporations can't do business.
I know /crisis/ got killed for a good reason but I thought I'd just take a second to remind everyone here that we're in the middle of a financial meltdown to rival the great depression and nobody's talking about it. It's all gonna collapse in 20 days tops. Organize, prepare, build solidarity. It's about to happen bros.
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/webm/ thread 3.0.

first thread: >>>/leftypol_archive/9920
last thread (>>361470) hit the bump limit, so i'm thinking to start a new one

post /lefty/ videos here! we welcome .webm and .mp4, and others
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>clicking around random wikipedia articles dealing with the russian revolution
>pretty much everyone of note died in the mid-late 30s accused of treason

uhh did stalin really do nuffin? cause this seems kinda sketch. and since we're all marxists what's the explanation here that isn't great man or personality based? why were the old revolutionaries nearly all purged from the state in the stalin era
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Amid pandemic, Washington escalates war threats against Russia
>Washington and its NATO allies are recklessly stoking military tensions with Russia to distract from their criminally irresponsible policies on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic.

It is very clear from the link to Zbigniew Brzezinski’s Atlantic Council article as to why he was a, the?, leading strategist for US imperialism.
In his own twisted way he employs a multi-sided vision of warfare, encompassing military, political, social and psychological tools in pursuing what was a virulent anti-communist agenda, no matter what the cost in deaths and human suffering. Brzezinski, for all his apparent world view saw communists everywhere. In Chile, Vietnam, Russia, …. His bigotry prevented him and fellow travellers from distinguishing between Stalinists, reformists, centrists and every variety of defender of capitalism from Communism, Trotskyism.
Afghans, Ukrainians, Russian, Turkish, Vietnamese, it matter little, his only criteria being the defeat of Communism and the enrichment of America.
NATO’s, that is US Imperialisms provocative present day ambitions employ equally sick, regressive acts.
But there are important differences between 2014 and the third decade of the 21 century, namely internationally the economic crisis is immeasurable more severe than just seven years ago. Barak Obama, followed by Donald Trump and now Joe Biden have intensified conflict with and within China and the Pacific region as a whole. Inter-imperialist rivalries pop up again and again in the EU and elsewhere.
The repercussions of the massive 2008 financial crash were still vigorously reverberating around the globe. And now the coronavirus pandemic, which has been allowed to sweep across whole continents causing millions of deaths, many more hardships and misery as well as havoc and mayhem in production and deliveryhas further weakened international capitalism. It has exacerbated not just nation state antagonisms but class conflict too.
In the name of defence of Ukraine’s and Turkey’s independence it, NATO, spells out the role of these pawns of NATO’s war games. These independent nation states have no say in their future other than to accept mass deaths on their soil in furtherance of imperialisms ambitions.
Only the independent intervention of the international proletariat can prevent the slide into war. Turn the imperialist war into a class war.
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The previous thread died (is full) for our sins. >>326202
Everything Russia related belongs here.
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>Robert Nozick has criticised the qualifier "socially necessary" in the labor theory of value as not well-defined and concealing a subjective judgement of necessity.[8] For example, Nozick posits a laborer who spends his time tying knots in a piece of cord. The laborer does his job as efficiently as is humanly possible, but Marx would likely agree that simply tying knots in cords is not a socially necessary use of labor. The problem is that what is "socially necessary" depends entirely on whether or not there is demand for the finished product, i.e., the knotted cord. In this way, introducing the "socially necessary" qualifier into the labor theory of value simply converts the theory into a roundabout and imprecise description of supply and demand. Thus Nozick argues that there is no longer any labor theory of value but rather the notion of what makes labor time socially necessary is dependent upon supply and demand in the market.
Marxbros, I don't feel so good….
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Trial of Kim Potter

This is the cop who shot Daunte Wright (20/male) in Brooklyn Center (Minneapolis suburb) while shouting "TASER TASER TASER" during the trial of Derek Chauvin (April 11, 2021). The charges are:
<Manslaughter, 1st degree https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.20
<Manslaughter, 2nd degree https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.205

Trial coverage begins today, 30th of November with jury selection.
The trial live streams will be hosted on the cytube.
https://tv.leftypol.org/r/HappeningsviaKlash (possibly a new channel, TBD)
I'll be doing recaps later in the day during the /leftypol/ news streams.

Daily summaries to be posted ITT and kept updated on this Google Doc (public viewing/suggesting only, not editing).
After the trial is concluded I'll convert the document to PDF so there will be no need to get honeypotted. Google will harvest your data. You have been warned. I'm mostly using it to more easily keep track of everything on my end. It's only included here in case anybody wants to suggest edits or see more accessibly formatted summaries.

More information on the incident/trial:
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>big baddy called Hitler
>his evil sidekick named Himmler
>mad doctor who experiments with his patients is literally called Josef "Mangle"
>hardass guy who leads the forces against Hitler is literally called Joe Steel
>guy who leads the Gauls called 'De Gaulle'
>guy who leads the Spaniards called 'Frank Frank' for some reason
>guy who raids convoys called 'Erich Raeder'
>Mackenzie King, grandson of a republican revolutionary (haha epic subversion)

What the fuck were the writers thinking with this bullshit?
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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General

5th Edition: Real succdem hour edition

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, Myanmar breaking apart or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us… hopefully!

Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/!YeYeuZuLSYkegWssey:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

Last threads:
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Previous thread >>392953 hit bump limit. Someone please archive it!

For a complete reading list, see: https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2020/05/01/two-reading-lists/

Cockshott's Patreon, YouTube and blogs

Videos torrent archive
Here's the torrent with all of Paul Cockshott's YouTube channel videos up to 27/10/2020 (i.e. Eliminating inequality):
Magnet link:
Torrent file:

This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and of course the great immortal scientist himself, WILLIAM PAUL COCKSHOTT.

Archives of previous thread
1) https://archive.is/uNCEY
2) https://web.archive.org/web/20201218152831/https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/997358.html
3) https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1092975361
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"The Plaza Hotel agreement destroyed Japan"

I recently read a post from a Chinese user on another site claiming that this agreement was an 'unequal treaty' imposed by the USA to kill Japan's economy. This seems to be a common trope, yet the agreement itself seems to be a rather boring currency price adjustment. The aim was to help US exports by devaluing the dollar but did that really cause the Lost Decade?
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new Multitude- Are Protests in Thailand a colour revolution? No.

>The desire to denounce any protest movement which isn’t explicitly communicating its Marxist-Leninist intent in the English language as a colour revolution ultimately is both ignorant and self-defeating. It ignores the hard work and radical action of comrades who aren’t extremely active on sites like Reddit or Twitter catering to the whims of the western left. Such denouncements instead promote a liberal-washed account of events drawn from western media. It also denies agency to our comrades in the global south if we start with the baseline assumption that they are powerless to the mastery of the west. A classic trope in the western canon, that ‘the world revolves around Cleethorpes’. Regions in the global south have their own complex political cultures that don’t always fit the same paradigms seen in the west.

full article: https://newmultitude.org/are-protests-in-thailand-a-colour-revolution-no/
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Theory bros. How do you get into a reading routine?

I've come to realization that till I actually get into the meat and potatoes of political concepts and historical philosophers, writers etc essays and books i won't ever truly understand the concepts and be able to articulate them myself with people.

Reading comments, watching videos and reading some clickbait news just gives me snippets of how things work.

Problem is it's overwhelming to see so much material and make myself sit down and read thru them patiently.

How have you guys done it?
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-eaboos as useful idiots

I know that Japanese culture has had an influence on pop culture for a long time, but I can't help but feel that I'm seeing more people than ever taking an interest in the culture.

Likewise, before the last decade I barely knew anyone who knew anything about South Korea, but in recent years their pop culture has also made a huge impact in the west.

I also know a lot of weeaboos and koreaboos who have this seething hatred of China - and I got to thinking, to what extent is it possible that US has strongly encouraged "soft power" diplomacy from these countries - both allies of the US with cultural hesitancy if not outright hostility to China - to lay the seeds of anti-China sentiment in the west?
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People say "there is no ethical consumption under capitalism" but that sounds like a load horse to me as a Communist. Is it really that hard to spend an extra $10 and buy a T-Shirt not made by a slave? The people who say this shit usually blow money on stupid shit like Macbooks and Starbucks. It's not that difficult to stop consuming. Capitalism doesn't force you to consume especially someone who is aware of the propaganda yet people cope and act like they're forced to buy Starbucks and Macbooks.
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anti advertising protracted peoples' war

What is the marxist opinion on plugins and addons for your online browser which automatically click on advertisements in order to send false information to corporate algorithms so that it can cost money to marketing divisions and thus make advertising a less profitable industry?
This thread was brought to you by adnauseam(TM) and the dengist market socialist movement
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Esoteric Hitlerism General: AFAP Edition (ALL FASCISTS ARE PEDOS)

This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.

To sum up, as it says in the title, this entire strand of thought is more or less an intelligence operation carried out mostly by pedophiles, with a strong satanic/ esoteric influence. On top of this, there are several interesting connections to these operations and operatives and Zionism.

The purpose of these operations, as are the purpose of all CIA operations, is to suppress and destroy the real movement that abolishes the present state of things, the mass movement organised workers, the socialist and communist movement.

What follows is a series of links, references and thoughts which document this feature of capitalist hegemony.

Link to last thread archive:


The thread from which it was born:


If anybody has the thread inbetween those archived that would be wonderful, all the info is copied into that first link but some of the discussion was good and bants.

Fresh Material courtesy of a Based Anon:



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Why should I hate the Ottomans again?

>BIPOC Empire that kept Euroaches at bay in a time they were the most unchallenged

Why should I dislike them again?
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Malcolm X

>brilliant speaker
>captivating writer
>extremely intelligent
>highly principled
>willing to die for the cause
>scathing critiques of white supremacy
>spot on analysis of the role of violence in both oppression and liberation of black people
<no understanding of class dynamics within white communities
<no analysis of how race and racism evolved as a tool of class rule
<main complaint about upper class blacks was that they seemed to crave white approval
<thought that the solution to racism among whites was for them to read the Quaran
Is he the living embodiment of what zero theory does to a mf? What might have happened if he had discovered Marxism in prison instead of Islam?
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Cope Central

Containment For All Cope Posted on Leftypol

DYK that this is a continuation of the original cope thread (tantrums general)?

All cope goes here (especially news). Includes /pol/ Twitter posts. RFA and RFERL also welcome.
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Anti-lumpen posters are some of the worst leftypol anons. Lumpens are always on the front line and fo not delude themselves about their class position unlike most.
Prove me wrong.
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Labour vs Labour Power

Whats the big difference? Why does Marx care so much that a prole sells his labour POWER and not his labour to the bourgeoisie? He really seems to make a big deal about it.
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Hooman rights

What do communists think of cruel and unusual punishments? Marxists historically opposed it almost always but contemporary leftists seem to be ready to turn a blind eye to reactionary social policies as long as a country is anti-imperialist. Hell it can be as right wing as they come. Take Iran for example. Shouldnt socialists fight for the average person not to be subjected to tyranny rather than retarded concepts such as "national sovereignity"? Shouldnt we be defending people and not nations?
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Did the imperialist powers help the nationalists in the Spanish Civil War?I am going to ask did America did its imperialism.. In the Spanish Civil War????????
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Class Hatred

"We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you." —Karl Marx

A thread for your bile.

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Historical materialism is bs

The more I study history the more it becomes clear how random and unpredictable history is. For examble the sole reason why the russians revolution succeded was because Nikolai II's father died early and never educated him into an proper Autocrat. WW1 only happened because Wilhelm II came to power and didn't give a shit about pragmatic diplomacy. Some small smeamingly meangless decicions in the english civil war made the creation of the USA possible. And there is countless other exambles.

Barely anything was predetermited by greater societal forces, it is all decicions by Men and sometimes women.
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Why are there so many tankies that seem actively opposed to making a better world?

I say tankies because I honestly don’t want to call these people either Marxists or Leninists, they sicken me too fucking much
Reading the shit I see in this board I’ve realized fuck tons of people don’t want a better world but instead want to just fulfill some deranged violent power fantasies
Like what is the fucking shit I’ve read here from “MLs”?
>Under communism there will be no freedom of speech, you are not allowed to express “dangerous” thoughts in communism, and yes thoughts actually are dangerous
>”Workplace democracy”? Lol don’t you realize that’s just a liberal meme?
>Yes drugs will still be banned
>Don’t you realize under communism we will need to destroy the biosphere, we must strip the Earth bare of all resources so we can make a space colony or something, and yes if you don’t want to destroy the rest of the life on our planet you are a LIBERAL
>Lol you think under communism you won’t be monitored constantly? Lmao
>Oh you think you’ll have any say in what society does under communism? Well actually the Party = the People, that makes sense, so whatever the government does is what you will WANT and no you won’t vote on anything lol
What the fuck do these people even want? What the fuck are you even trying to offer proles at this point, just super welfare? Why would they support this shit? Is the idea to just subvert the proles every step of the way in some sort of cabal? How would that make you different from the American revolutionaries then?
<Inb4 wahhhhh you said Marxism bad
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Anti-science leftists

>Ecology is fascism
>Humans will conquer the galaxy
>Pandemics can’t happen/viruses don’t evolve
>Actions taken on the physical world don’t have effects
>Technology is not bound by the laws of physics
>Technological development is not bound to human knowledge on any level
Why do I keep seeing these positions here?
And no it isn’t everybody
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How is it possible for Steven Pinker tier, Fukuyamist garbage to still exist?

How sheltered must you be and how deep must you bury your head into the sand to be a Fukuyamist end of history retard in 2001+20? I get liberals who are just sociopathic nihilists knowing driving the car off the cliff, but how are their still true believer fucktards that believe in a brighter future under liberal capitalism in current year? Most liberals don't even believe in that shit, even lay persons on the street.
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Marx, the Man

Does Marx's personality and life story have any bearing on modern Marxist movement? Obviously Marx has had a lot of writing done on him, he's a pretty important guy, and a lot of it is really silly and bad. Kengor's Marx and the Devil comes to mind particularly as a silly exaggeration of the man's character based on some of young Karl's poetry and some of his "le edgy atheist" quotes, the Mephistopheles one comes to mind. Of course there are other silly things like: "BEARDMAN NEVER HAD JORB", assuming one doesn't consider journalism a job, one would have to open this critique up to all academics, which is obviously troubling for the "Vons" that make up the Austrian School.

Of course if you peruse the internet you'll find youtube ads that are unironically 40min videos about "Karl Marx's darkest secrets" where a bunch of faggots sit around reading the Marx wiki or something like that and mounting their respective high horses. I've of course heard rumors that Marx fathered a bastard on his maid, I'm curious to learn about this because I'm yet to see a single source or origin of this idea.

Most moral critiques of Marx as a person of principle is either the poverty that he allowed his family to endure (which definitely had nothing to do with his constantly being banned from various states) or his vitriol in attacking his political rivals. Reading Marx's words to other internationale members or academics who challenged him are certainly entertaining, Marx had a supreme gift for making even eloquent men look like complete ass-up retards. As for his poverty, this is the origin perhaps of most of Marx's rumors, that he was a bad father and a worse husband, what do you anons think?

Was Marx a noble guy who endured poverty and allowed his family to do the same because he so believed in the truth of his work? Or was a brilliant autist who assaulted people he could have otherwise worked with, while neglecting his own family and surviving off of his best friend's generosity? And does it actually matter or does Marx's work stand apart from the man?
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Ironic Propogranda

Isn't is very irnoic how a lot of anti-socialist propoganda's critisms/critiques about AES are true in America.
The most promite critism of AES is the fact that thier supposed repression of free thinking and censorship inhibited creativity, and innovation. That these measures would prevent people from coming up with "outside the box" solutions to problems. The irony is that you have this exact problem in modern day america. You have all of these tech companies censoring people form explicitly ideological reasons, with the new twitter CEO being an example of this. Their is also social shaming of people who say things that are outside of the overton window. And an inability for westerners to consider any ideology that isn't part of the liberal democratic political outlook. Their is also this very powerful idea of internationalism, where established institutions are seen to not only infallible but they are also extremely glorified, and that any deviation from institutional norms is very much frowned upon.
And these things do inhibit creativity and innovation, they do prevent people from coming up with new ideas, and new ways of thinking. This "soft-censorship" does harm society.
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Nihilist anarchism

This is only form of anarchism I have never ever heard of. How does nihilist anarchism work exactly?
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🐖🇪🇺🐷/EUROpol/ - Europe Politics general💶

Can we get a europe general?
I'm kinda curious what's going on in the countries of my fellow europeans, but I feel like having a general for each separate country, with each speaking their own language segregates us further fellow euro brothers and sisters.

So dump news, banter, events, feels, and so on and so on
Let's create a better general than /USApol/

Reposting this from the bunker cause why not, it's been a while since the last one
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The Baku Congress: Anti-Colonial Marxism


>Much has been said about the supposed “eurocentrism” of Marxism. Yet little is known about the Baku Congress. Colonized peoples played an enormous role in the communist movement in Lenin’s time.

>As Pranav Jani rightly points out, even highly regarded left scholars such as Edward Said, Frederic Jameson, and Benedict Anderson have argued that Marxism doesn't properly address the unique dynamics of imperialism, the unevenness of capitalist development, or the particularities of national liberation movements. Yet Luxemburg, Trotsky, and Lenin wrote extensively about the struggle against imperialism.[2]

>Not only does Marxism have a proven track-record of being theoretically non-eurocentric, but some of it’s most notable proponents were practically committed to building an international, anti-colonial, and multi-ethnic opposition to capitalist domination. Nowhere is this more evident than the Baku Congress of 1920.[3]

>On July 29, 1920, the Executive Committee of the Communist International put out a call to the people of “the near and far east” to convene a congress of colonized and nationally oppressed peoples. Following the October Revolution of 1917 and the founding of the Communist International in 1919, there was a serious attempt to unify the world communist movement with the colonized people of the Global South. In the two years following the end of World War I, the implications for such a congress were significant. The world had just witnessed 20 million working-class people slaughtered at their own hands in the interest of their national bourgeoisie.

>The war was a result of imperialist competition for monopoly control over the labor force and natural resources of the East. The Allied and Central Powers mobilized their respective colonies on behalf of their imperialist interests, leading to a set of complex military conflicts in Northern Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia. Drafted shortly after the congress, the Manifesto of the Peoples of the East states:

<Two or three million Indians and Negroes, bought like slaves by the British and French capitalists, were, like slaves, hurled to their deaths on the fields of France far distant and strange to them, serving interests alien and unintelligible to them — those of British and French bankers and industrialists… this war was not fought for the countries of Europe, not for the countries and peoples of the West, but for the countries and peoples of the East. It was fought for the partition of the world, and chiefly for the partition of Asia, of the East. It was fought to decide who was to rule the countries of Asia and whose slaves the peoples of the East would be. It was fought to decide whether the British or the German capitalists would skin the peasants and workers of Turkey, Persia, Egypt, and India.

>The Baku Congress convened its opening rally on August 31, 1920. Over 2,000 people were in attendance. Delegates represented approximately 26 different countries and regions, including Turkey, Persia, Egypt, India, Afghanistan, Baluchistan, Kashgaria, China, Japan, Korea, Arabia, Syria, Palestine, Bukhara, Khiva, Dagestan, Northern Caucasia, Azerbaijan, Armenia, Georgia, Turkestan, Fergana, the Kalmyk autonomous region, the Bashkir republic, the Tatar republic, and the Far Eastern district.

>In the eight days of the congress, delegates discussed and adopted a wide range of resolutions about the world political situation and the tasks of revolutionaries. These included: the state of anti-capitalist movements in Turkestan, Norther Caucasia, India, and Turkey; the question of national self-determination and anti-colonial struggle; Zionism and the occupation of Palestine; and matters related to soviet governance and agrarian policy.

>Additionally, the congress would appoint a committee whose purpose was to serve as a permanent body uniting the peoples of the East, “The Council for Propaganda of the Peoples of the East.” The tasks of the Council were to publish a journal, pamphlets, and leaflets in three different languages; to support the unification of liberation movements throughout the East; and to organize a university of social sciences for activists. The Council for Propaganda worked in accordance with the leadership of the Executive Committee of the Comintern.

>The struggle for women’s liberation was also integral to the tasks of the congress. Najiye Hanum, a member of the Communist Party of Turkey and representative of the women of the East, stated:

<The women’s movement beginning in the East must be looked at not from the standpoint of those frivolous feminists who are content to see women’s place in social life as that of a delicate plant or an elegant doll. This movement must be seen as a vital and necessary consequence of the revolutionary movement taking place throughout the world… The women communists of the East have an even harder battle to wage because, in addition [to fighting for a classless society], they have to fight against the despotism of their menfolk.

>The congress resolved that three women would be included in the presiding committee, and subsequently adopted a five-point program drafted by the women delegates. This program included complete equality for women, unconditional access to education, marriage equality, equal employment opportunities, and the establishment of committees for the protection of women’s rights.

>Also in attendance at the congress was a founding leader of the communist movement in the United States, John Reed. Due to a shortage of time, Reed was unable to speak to the audience of delegates during the congress’s proceedings, though his speech was published shortly thereafter and was well received. In that speech, Reed debunked the false idea of a “free America” by pointing to the ways U.S. imperialism had plundered the Philippines, the islands of the Caribbean, as well as South and Central America. By elucidating the U.S.’s looting of Cuba, Haiti, the Dominican Republic, and Mexico, Reed’s analysis offered a holistic portrayal of how imperialism was a global system. What’s more, Reed connected the struggle for Black liberation in the U.S. with the “armed resistance [against] the white bandits” of U.S. imperialism. All in all, Reed’s contributions to the conference offered a timely and lasting analysis to the interrelations of racism, colonialism, and capitalism.

>The Baku Congress in itself serves as a definitive retort against the shallow claim by academics that the theory and history of Marxism is eurocentric. The congress is a shining example for Marxists to learn about the principles of internationalism, anti-imperialism, and building multi-ethnic organizations. It is the duty of revolutionaries in the U.S. to not only uphold these principles in theory, but to make a striven attempt to win the trust of colonized people who have been affected by U.S. imperialism all throughout the world. As Grigory Zinoviev spoke in his closing remarks at Baku:

<A distrust has been implanted in the peoples of the East by decades of experience — a justified distrust of Europeans, who always have merely deceived and swindled them, merely mocked them… As people of labor, as serious revolutionaries, we have to understand where the roots of this distrust lies… we must create the feeling that we are one fraternal family, all members of which look with the horror of the old, accursed past, and all as one fight against those who divide us.

<[1] This article was originally published on August 31st, 2020 by the online publication, LeftVoice. LeftVoice is the U.S. branch of La Izquierda Diario Network, a Trotskyist news network established in fourteen other countries. La Izquierda Diario Network is affiliated with the Trotskyist Fraction-Fourth International (FT).

<[2] Pranav Jani, “Karl Marx, Eurocentrism, and the 1857 Revolt in British India,” Crystal Bartolovich and Neil Lazarus (ed.), Marxism, Modernity, and Postcolonial Studies (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2002), pp. 81–97. See also: The Accumulation of Capital by Rosa Luxemburg; The Permanent Revolution by Leon Trotsky; “Theses on the National and Colonial Questions” by V.I. Lenin and M.N. Roy; and “The Awakening of Asia” and “Backward Europe, Advanced Asia” by V.I. Lenin.

<[3] There is no better place to study the Baku Congress than from the words of the delegates themselves. An english translation of the proceedings and resolutions can be found in: John Riddel (ed.), To See the Dawn: Baku, 1920-First Congress of the Peoples of the East (New York, Pathfinder, 1993).
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Whats the deal with fascist opposition to pornography? I want to talk about this, and how their fear of sex and moralism has lent itself to the establishment of toxic right wing subcultures. They're so neurotic about it, that it makes them an easier target. Look at all the Blacked content flooding b, even in their own little corner of the Internet they feel unsafe. One thing I've noticed is that popular media and normal people basically accept pornography as normal and not that big a deal, which probably leaves fascists feeling even more culturally isolated. All of this had led to the development of a kind of male-centric cult of 'self improvement'.

One example you are unlikely to have encountered, but is a well known name on the far right is 'raw egg nationalist'. He runs a magazine which features images of semi naked body builders and promotes a 'masculine' lifestyle, demonizing mainstream society as effeminate and weak. He pushes a sexist agenda and demonizes sex workers. The right are isolated from popular culture, and further isolate themselves with their fixations on things like eating a certain way or anxiously avoiding what they conside to be 'Jewish propaganda'. They know movies and TV series are not developed with fascists in mind, so they've resorted to making their own entertainment with magazines like this.

'Self improvement' is a kind of codeword on pol for a fetishistic idealisation of typically European art and music. They encourage each other to listen to classical music and lift weights, and also hate pornography.

The isolation of fascists has led to these people developing symbols, memes and ideas to identify with and the subsequent development of a toxic counter culture. At the heart of this is a hatred of pornography. If a fascist begins indifferent to porn, they'll be exposed to propaganda which is gives them something else to neurotically fear.

How do we respond when these subcultures infiltrate the maistream? Rolling Stone delve into the subject here;

Personally, I believe we should watch them closer and put their propaganda under mainstream scrutiny so that it can't fester and expand out of sight. I'm also not averse to flooding b with porn, because fuck them : )
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Home Office

Home office is here to stay, and we should not be opposed to it in principle. Being against objective revolutions in the forces of production is the equivalent to the Swing Riots. Saving workers the time to transport themselves to work through technology is a form of automation, and let's not forget that the goal of communism is that one day people don't even have to go to workplaces anymore (with some exceptions I guess).

However, we must look at this in terms of social relations. What did Marx wrote in the 18th Brumaire? That the French smallholders were not a class for itself, and merely existed objectively as a class as itself. Meaning, they could not act subjectively as social formation, hence it was easy to domesticate them as the mass base for Napoleon's Imperial State - not the proletariat, but surprisingly also not the haute-bourgeoisie, that arranged itself with the situation - very similar situation in China today, the CPC's mass base remains to be rural, and the Chinese national bourgeoisie exists objectively, but can not act as a subject, as a class for itself. So what change in the productive forces gave rise to the proletariat as a class for itself? Mostly, factory work. The ability to gather in a big workplace with your fellow workers and in sharing the same repetitive work, leaving the factory once the attendence clock rings allows them to unionize, to create cells with the enterprise or even workers councils. The rise of trade unions, not just in-house unions that are basically yellow unions, allows workers to create bureaucratic structures that represent the workers of an entire industry. Even today, in state-monopoly capitalism, industrial workers rank amongst the most unionized (unless you live in a shithole like the US), whereas service workers do not, and the trend goes downwards the more atomized workers are, which is why capitalists prefer such arrangements like subcontractors, delivery firms, etc. - how to organize those marignalized groups is a whole other can of worms I will not get into.

The rise of the "home office" will change the consciousness of office workers and we need to be aware of it. What communists need to do is propose a Marxist alternative to the utopian socialism of Silicon Valley. A comrade of mine observes this very closely, and he tells me that the workers (not the CEOs) at Google or "meta" (lol) often have the conscioussness of what is similar to "petty bourgeois socialists" - they are, of course, labor aristocrats, but realize that big tech can cause fucked up things (one of the most psychologically damaging job is being a Facebook content manager, you are exposed to hundreds of images of child pornography daily as well as over-the-top gore and animal abuse), some are even vaguely anti-capitalist, and think about solutions through the socialization of big tech not in the Marxist sense, but in the sense of some WEF "Great Reset" type of digital economy. In my view, this is highly dangerous, and unless we propose alternatives this will leave us in a situation for which we are not prepared for. I would argue we should continue to demand to break up Silicon Valley monopolies, call for creating an open-source online conference program that can be used by workers working from home, demand Microsoft Office to be open-source, and additionally also demand free communal child care centers, alternatively paid for by the capitalist as reproduction cost of labor power. Nobody can be bothered to raise kids while they work.

With all that said, keep in mind that industrial workers still materially produce wealth, and therefore have more power because they can literally stop production, whereas most office workers often serve effectively not material production, but the vast complex of discomposition of monopoly rents within the machinations of state-monopoly capitalism towards financialization and reliance on super profits.
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/DPRK/ - Democratic People's Republic of Korea General

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
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Wikipedia may delete entry on ‘mass killings’ under Communism due to claims of bias

<But one proponent of deleting the page has stated on Wikipedia’s discussion page that “the view that the ideology of communism is somehow inherently violent is … anti-communist [point of view] pushing”
<Another supporter of deletion claims the entry on the deaths under Communism, estimated by some historians to be in the region of 100 million people, should not resort to “simplistic presuppositions that events are driven by any specific ideology”
<It has also been argued by one of the host of users who update and maintain Wikipedia that the page on mass killings under Communist regimes “is enabling a narrative and supports some fringe ideas about history”
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Europe’s fascistic policy of mass infection: People will be “vaccinated, recovered or dead,” German health minister says
>As the second year of the COVID-19 pandemic comes to a close, it is clear that governments across Europe and the world have no policy to halt mass deaths.

Essential reading as usual from the WSWS. No other online publication reviews the history of the pandemic event, the medical science, the lying role of the governments, media and unions, the response in the working class and what must be done in their interest.

The most notable aspect at present is the link between the flood of fictitious capital to the stock markets, the abandonment of pandemic prevention by scientific policy (trace, isolate, protect), and the encouragement of far right anti-vax movements across Europe. Not a single government in the EU/UK is interested in stopping the pandemic by necessary measures such as closing schools.

In France there is no way to know the true state of things with inadequate testing, suppression of information by school principals and teachers unions. Not a single word is said about the fact that schools and universities are all still fully open and a major vector for covid.

The policy is not "zero covid" but "zero information about covid." Everything is couched in terms of personal behavior and not science. No children under 12 are vaccinated. It is a very dangerous situation.

Fascism is being openly encouraged. On France "Info" they promote either Marine le Pen or Eric Zemmour, both of whom are extreme nationalists and fascists, one of whom will almost certainly become the next president. They try to portray anti-vax protests as a democratic movement to end covid restrictions and replace all other sanitary measures simply by vaccination. Thanks to the WSWS, I know that this is false and unscientific. But so many people are confused. It is a deliberate policy of the governments to deceive and divide workers.
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to what extent is it industrialized? afaict they're mainly still largely based off of agriculture and resource extraction

also are there any good resources on the ancient Incan economy? apparently it was supposed to have been socialistic and prosperous before it was violently replaced with feudalism by the Spanish colonialists
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News 11/29/21

Leftist Chile presidential candidate leads new polls as run-off vote looms
Chilean leftist candidate Gabriel Boric was leading conservative Jose Antonio Kast in the latest polls released on Sunday ahead of the second round of the presidential election on Dec. 19. The polarized run-off vote will set the political tone in the Andean country for the years ahead, with the two candidates pushing wildly different visions for the future of the world's top copper-producing nation.

Puebla Group's Seventh Summit Starts In Mexico City
On Monday, about 150 progressive politicians from Spain and Latin America arrived in Mexico DF to attend the Puebla Group forum’s seventh meeting, which seeks to discuss global multilateral development strategies and ways to strengthen democracy.

China makes billion-dose pledge to Africa to help overcome the coronavirus pandemic
China has promised to donate a billion coronavirus vaccines, advance billions of dollars for African trade and infrastructure, and write off interest-free loans to African countries to help the continent heal from the coronavirus pandemic.

Fears of US-Australia backed coup in Solomon Islands after it restores diplomatic ties with China
AUSTRALIA has been accused of provoking riots aiming to overthrow the government of the Solomon Islands after the South Pacific country cut diplomatic ties with Taiwan and established relations with Beijing. Prime Minister Manasseh Sogavare blamed “foreign interference” on Friday for anti-government protests in the capital Honiara, during which parliament was stormed and police stations torched. Rioters also attacked Honiara’s Chinatown district.

Lithuania says Belarus will keep testing West, urges NATO rethink
Lithuanian President Gitanas Nauseda said on Sunday that the NATO military alliance needed to adjust its stance towards Belarus, whose military, he said, was becoming more integrated with Russian armed forces. Nauseda told a news conference with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg and European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen in Vilnius that he was worried by the "total military integration" of Belarus into Russian military structures.https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/lithuania-says-belarus-will-keep-testing-west-urges-nato-rethink-2021-11-28/

Mass murderer Breivik sent letters to survivors & their relatives
The messages, written by Anders Behring Breivik, include a handwritten greeting on top of a mass-produced open letter. In many of the letters, according to NRK, the killer repeats messages from the manifesto he made before he killed 77 people in a planned attack in 2011. The letter to the Support Group consists of eight content-heavy pages of white power propaganda. Similar messages were also sent to the Workers' Youth League – a youth division of the Norwegian Labour Party (members of which were targeted in the 2011 attack) – plus parliamentary representatives, and others who hold public office or positions.

Russian Journalists Barred from Siberian Mine Disaster Survivors — Novaya Gazeta
Russian journalists have been barred from speaking with the survivors of one of the deadliest disasters to hit the coal-mining regions of Siberia in the past decade, the independent Novaya Gazeta newspaper reported Sunday.

Social service chiefs call for immediate £1,000 winter retention bonus to tackle care worker shortage
COUNCIL social service chiefs have called for an immediate £1,000 winter retention bonus for care workers to tackle staffing shortages. The Association of Directors of Adult Social Services found that staffing shortages have cost 1.5 million hours of homecare work in the last year.

Kolkata Civic Polls: Left Front Brings in Many Women, Youth ‘Red’ Volunteers as Candidates
Gearing up for the elections to the Kolkata Municipal Corporation (KMC), the Left Front has brought in a number of young women and men as candidates. Several of these candidates have been drawn from the ‘Red’ volunteers, who have been on the streets, doing relief work after cyclone and pandemic ravaged the state.

EXCLUSIVE Visa complains to U.S. govt about India backing for local rival RuPay
In public Visa has downplayed concerns about the rise of RuPay, which has been supported by public lobbying from Prime Minister Narendra Modi that has included likening the use of local cards to national service. But U.S. government memos show Visa raised concerns about a "level playing field" in India during an Aug. 9 meeting between U.S. Trade Representative (USTR) Katherine Tai and company executives, including CEO Alfred Kelly.
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veiled warfare

A short while ago there was news that a US sub had bumped an underwater mountain.

However some people are now saying that China might have used some kind of underwater drone to damage the sub and cause a "mission kill"
It appears to be just somebodies blog, so who knows if any of this is true. I doubt the story with the "sonic bomb", because water only carries low frequency sound waves over any kind of distance, but the described effects are those of high frequency sound waves. I think that if you build a really powerful high-frequency underwater sound generator, it would be very effective at cleaning the outer hull of ships if you put it in close proximity. like 20cm or so, but not have any military application. and it would piss off the fish
It's common praxis for people "in the know" to combine a true story with something ridiculous, so that they appear like cranks that have gotten something right by accident.

The plausible part is that China has a underwater drone that can knock out subs without sinking them. They must have been able to carefully calibrate their weapon to cause enough damage that the sub was a write off but not so much damage that it sinks and kills off the entire crew. And then both sides officially pretend the battle never happened. The US doesn't say anything because it would cause embarrassment of having their claim of invulnerability refuted, and because the sub wasn't destroyed, they don't have a reason for retaliation. China doesn't say anything because they don't want to appear threatening to others.

Does that mean this is the future of warfare, where nobody admits its happening ?
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if hypothetically you guys won the revolution...

if hypothetically you guys won the revolution what would you do to the rednecks who want to be left alone by the state and don't want to exit America? would you come to an agreement with them?
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Eric Zemmour announced his place in the competition to dethrone LORD JVPITER today.

How does leftypol feel about this? Here is his speech today translated to burger language. It's a pretty good speech.

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News 12/4/21

Finland arrests 5 over far-right terror plot
Five men suspected of planning a far-right motivated bomb and gun attack have been arrested, Finnish police said on Friday. The men are from the southwestern municipality of Kankaanpaa and were born between the years 1995 and 1998. They were arrested on Tuesday morning after being under surveillance for two years, police said.

Thousands block roads across Serbia in anti-government protest
Thousands of people blocked roads across Serbia in an anti-government protest against two new laws that environmentalists say will let foreign companies exploit local resources. Serbia's government has offered mineral resources to companies including China's Zijin copper miner (601899.SS) and Rio Tinto (RIO.L). Green activists say the projects will pollute land and water in the Balkan nation.

Second death linked to British troops alleged burning of Kenyan wildlife park
THE family of a Kenyan man who developed breathing problems after British troops allegedly torched thousands of acres of a Kenyan wildlife park say that they believe the fire caused his death.

More than 40,000 march in Vienna against coronavirus lockdown
More than 40,000 people marched through Vienna on Saturday to protest against a lockdown and plans to make vaccinations compulsory to curb the coronavirus pandemic. Faced with a surge in infections, the government last month made Austria the first country in Western Europe to reimpose a lockdown and said it would make vaccinations mandatory from February.

Israel closes Palestinian-majority football ground after win over Beitar Jerusalem
Israeli authorities have banned Bnei Sakhnin, a major football club for Palestinian citizens of Israel competing in the country's premier league, from playing matches in its own stadium. The decision comes after the team beat Beitar Jerusalem, whose fans are notorious for celebrating their anti-Palestinian racism.

Investigation finds militias involved in Iraqi post-election violence
The committee was formed by Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi after the Nov. 5 events and consists of members of the Joint Command Operation, National Security Service, PMU (Popular Mobilization Units) security department and Interior Ministry.

Union Fears Air India Employees Will Suffer Hardship, Loss After Disinvestment
The Madras High Court (HC) has issued notices to the civil aviation ministry, Air India Limited (AIL) and Talace Private Limited (TPL), a company set up by the Tata Group to acquire Air India, demanding a counter-affidavit following the filing of a writ petition by the Air Corporation Employees Union (ACEU) requesting the court to restrain the Centre from proceeding further with the disinvestment of the carrier on Friday.

KKE leader Koutsoumbas pays tribute to the Paris Commune
On his 2nd day of visit in Paris, the General Secretary of the CC of the Communist Party of Greece (KKE) Dimitris Koutsoumbas participated in a guided walk “on the footsteps of the Commune”. The walk began from Louise Michel square and continued in Montmartre.

China targets primary schools in drive to instill love for Communist Party in children
According to state news agency Xinhua, the order means that, while head teachers would retain overall responsibility, party organs will have a tight grip on “ideological and political work”. The promotion of “socialist core values”, the “revolutionary tradition” and “red gene” will be integrated with the school curriculum.

As global costs soar, Japan's 'shrinkflation' gets harder to swallow
“In Japan, the impact of deflation means it is difficult to raise prices directly, so shrinkflation is a kind of a measure of last resort,” Iwasa said. “But basically it’s sneaky and it bothers me.” While the practice is hardly unique to Japan — Mondelez International Inc. sparked a global outcry when it reduced the size of the Toblerone chocolate bar in 2016 — its prevalence in the world’s No. 3 economy is a notable legacy of years of deflation.
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Lmao they actually made an NFT show


Like idk what to say about how awful it is, not even in a it’s so bad it’s funny way it’s in a holy fuck what a train wreck of bad ideas. Based off the way this garbage episode one can tell no one in the writing staff actually passed high school English much less understood it and the rest of the storyboard and animation department clearly aren’t filled with people that even read the animators survival book or took a single course

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha and I thought Steven universe was shit ahahahahaha
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public service announcement

Shut the fuck up about dead people. Im tired of hearing about people named stalin, trotsky, mao, king harold the 15th, fucking winston churchill and adolf hitler! Open your eyes and try talking about some friends you've made by leaving the basement you damn glasses-wearing intellectual! Touch some grass and stop talking about the mobutu and franklin roosevelt for christ's sake. And stop talking about "im a trotskyist" like no, youre not a trotskyist, youre just somebody who believes in "permanent revolution" and spreading communism which is actually what every communist today believes in
Please. Please for the love of god live in the current century and get some pussy
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You have to admit

It’s pretty fucking based
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libertarians are fucking stupid

By pretty much any measure you can look at to gauge a town’s success, Grafton got worse. Recycling rates went down. Neighbor complaints went up. The town’s legal costs went up because they were constantly defending themselves from lawsuits from Free Towners. The number of sex offenders living in the town went up. The number of recorded crimes went up. The town had never had a murder in living memory, and it had its first two, a double homicide, over a roommate dispute.

So there were all sorts of negative consequences that started to crop up. And meanwhile, the town that would ordinarily want to address these things, say with a robust police force, instead found that it was hamstrung. So the town only had one full-time police officer, a single police chief, and he had to stand up at town meeting and tell people that he couldn’t put his cruiser on the road for a period of weeks because he didn’t have money to repair it and make it a safe vehicle.

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Are religions compatible with Communism?




What happens when a religious rule contradicts a rule of Communism?

Christianity advocates for paying taxes and submission to a state, even as a slave, regardless of what the states does or is. It’s inherently anti-Revolutionary.

Judaism has xenophobic rules and advocates for racially discriminatory economics, usury, ethnic landlord monopolies, and gender/ethnic apartheid.

Islam advocates ethnic and gender apartheid.

So what happens when a religious rule contradicts a state rule? Do you ban the religion? Does Communism recognize religion as a separate thing, or see it as a rival ideology and legal system?
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Was the Soviet Bloc socialism implemented well?

So whats the consensus on the Soviet Bloc countries? Was socialism implemented well in the Central/Eastern countries ex Poland, Czech, Hungary. Were there any discrepancies in implementation in some countries over others who did it best and who did it worst?
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john locke

checks and balances bro

social contract bro

the gov is represented by the consent of the govern bro

dear god this ultra liberal, does anyone else hate this liberal
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There are 2.3 billion Christians, 1.9 billion Muslims, 1.1 billion Hindus, 500 million Buddhists, and about a billion other people of various religions. 93% of the world is religious. You can debate how Devout people in the first world are but in the third world there is no debate. Religion is as important as it was in the Medieval times. Knowing this why do us Communists act like Religion is something that can easily be tossed away. It shapes their entire being more than anything. It's like telling them to kill their own children. Why don't we work within the confines of Religion. We are not convincing 7 billion people to become Atheists and throw away Religion but we can use religion to convince them to become Communists. That's much much easier.
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How can one man be so based?

Picrel. I am asking you this right now! Tell me how to achieve this level of absolute superiority. Protip: You can't, because it is literally impossible
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FQ: Fash Question

To what extent are fascists even a threat anymore? Aren't larpers who like to dress up in uniforms inherently alienating to normies? Was there ever a chance in hell this ideology was ever going to appeal to anything but terminally online seethers?
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Why is "labor" the only thing that can create value? Why can't machines? Or "time" or "energy"? or "scarcity" Or something else. Marx says somewhere that labor is the only thing commodities have in common but I'm sure we could think of other things they do?
Idk, seems kinda arbitrary. Did he just inherit this from Smith and not think too much about it?
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/crisis/ General

💰️DOW/Market Watch Thread💰️
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.
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Anti Nazi Thread

Post the best pictures you got.

I like to see what others have and we need a thread to combine all the good materials.
Here I concentrated on the fact that Pol-Cel Nazis can literally not read more then 50 characters of text and are proud of it.

For these idiots everything must be a "meme" or have a "joke". Pol-cels are oblivious to the fact that others are giving them information and knowledge not jokes or memes.

Did anyone else observe this behavior from Pol-Cels ?
These idiots are unable to read children literature let alone anything important.

It looks like daddy Hitler hates people who can read or have attention spans greater then ADHD gold fish.
I never imagine the ability to have a attention span or read more then 50 characters of text will ever be something that I need to argue for. However here we are !
And this is no slander you cab go to /pol/ and engage these idiots yourself.
Of course it is like going to a zoo to look at the stupid animals.
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Marxism vs. "anti-work"

As you may have heard there's this forum on Reddit titled "antiwork" that has reached 1 jillion subs in a matter of months. Some – rather foolish – people take this as a justification for saying that they were right all along, meaning that "anti-work" is trending exactly because it has the right theory and practice, and everyone else who disagrees with this assessment can and should fuck off for being buzz-kills.

Well, I'm one such a "buzz-kill" person, which is to say a Marxist, and I would like to explain to you why this "trend" is at best "one step forward but two steps back" kind of issue.

First of all, let's look at the demographics – and I'm not even going to cite exact sources, because everyone knows that the following is in the right ballpark when I say that – 80-90% of Reddit posters are anglo-saxons (USA, UK, AUS, etc.) and like 70-80% of them are male, and like 60-70% of them are "middle class" (or above, not to mention, typically white).

Let me tell you how the above mentioned data is absolutely significant from a Marxist POV. These people are from The countries which spearheaded neoliberalism in the 70's-80's, which included offshoring their productive factories, unproductive call centers, and other "high-markup cost" jobs to all of the rest of the (then) third world (China, India, Africa, LatAm)… Today, these countries where these "anti-work" enthusiasts are coming from are basically gutted from the inconveniences, dirty realities, and proletarian misgivings that are associated with said spheres of work. On the other hand, these countries were more than ready to accept the lumpen-proletariat arriving in their stead, meaning – at least in this context – the long-term unemployed and unemployable, homeless, and inevitably criminal elements to take over said opened void left by actual workers. What remained was the historically unprecedented situation wherein, on the one hand, they had a 1) wide stratum of workers dealing with design, engineering, programming, marketing, etc., a 2) middle stratum that had to do the remaining domestic jobs like retailing, servicing, logistics, and so on – even if under completely unbearable circumstances, including having to hold 3 jobs at a time – and, 3) the afformentioned lumpen-proles.

Naturally, the wast majority of the subscribers to the "anti-work" sub coming from these deficient economies come from 1), followed by 2).

Now let's get real, and by that I mean, let's take the "anti-worker's" demands at face value. "Abolish work," they say, right here, and "right now!" The first, and most burning contradiction appears here. These people, living in the imperial core, "somehow" spontaneously forget, that they, as workers of a country, sit upon a global chain of production, most of which happens in the third or developing world, and they demand that >their work< (as if, it was in a vacuum) should disappear. If they demands were a 100% met, what it would mean is the TOTAL ECONOMIC COLLAPSE OF THE ANGLO-SAXON WORLD, INCLUDING THE US EMPIRE ITSELF.

If their demands were to be met, put it otherwise, they would be left with an Empire unable to enforce said global production chain, leading to severe famine and overall product shortages, and making said domestic jobs insufficient, not to mention even further extending the lumpen-proletariat at home. As it stands today, and as it stands today especially in capitalist core countries, "anti-work" is an insane utopia, the proponents of which do not even begin (as if they bothered to think, lol) to measure the consequences of their demands.

Worse – and this is where it gets grim –, I've spoken in real life with several "anti-work enthusiasts," and when you ask them about such critical abstractions such as "What happens to your supposedly successful revolution, economically speaking?" they give you these following vague answers: "The value form will be immediately abolished!" (Jesus Christ!); "We will start an economy of mutual exchange!" (example: a cheese producer will give a certain amount of cheese to the doctor to cure him of his cancer); "Complete decentralization will happen, the state will be overthrown!"

Put these answers together, and by no means do you get "anarchism," you get total fucking economic collapse and political chaos.

And finally, and what makes my heart ache more than anything, is when radical leftists from fucking third-world, EU-peripherial, or colonized countries chime in and they unironically identify with said project, completely forgetting the simple fact that they are the "power house" of capitalism, while those who dream about "anti-work" ARE ALREADY LIVING IN A MOSTLY DE-WORKERIFIED economy.

In closing: yes, for sure, Marxists do actually think that we, as a human species can and should reach a level where "society regulates the general production and thus makes it possible for me to do one thing today and another tomorrow, to hunt in the morning, fish in the afternoon, rear cattle in the evening, criticise after dinner, just as I have a mind, without ever becoming hunter, fisherman, herdsman or critic." (Marx in Gotha), but by no means do we mean that this could be achieved at a snap of a finger. YES, WE MARXISTS ARE """ANTI-WORK""" TOO, BUT FOR US THE MAIN QUESTION IS "HOW TO GET THERE" INSTEAD OF ASSUMING THAT WE ARE ALREADY THERE ON A GLOBAL LEVEL.

God damn, honestly!
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Chaos for export

Hello, I came across a very interesting article written by Surkov. Since 2013, he has held the post of Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation. In its zone of influence are political issues related to the CIS countries, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics.


An article titled "Where has the chaos gone? Unpacking Stability" was released on November 20 and may give some insight into Putin's policy.


So, what is it about in the article, in short. Here we have a state as such – in particular, Russia. By its very existence, it is aimed at maintaining stability, at extinguishing all uncontrollable outbursts and impulses that can lead to an imbalance of the system and its subsequent collapse. Can this go on forever?

No, Surkov answers. Because in this kind of system, the alienation of many individuals from the state inevitably accumulates.

"People don't want to be against it. People want to be in parallel, without intersecting with the system unless absolutely necessary. The mass depoliticization of the population makes up the establishment alone with itself. For parallel people, going to the polls or carrying the right poster is nothing more than a way to quickly give Caesar what is Caesarean, so that they can then return back to their personal underuniverse, where they live in complete inconsistency with the spirit and letter of this poster."

He explains quite cynically how the state fights instability:

"The use of extracts of historical memory, expired morality, administrative and spiritual values and other heavy social preservatives in unlimited doses ensures the preservation of the desired stability."

On the other hand, Surkov continues, the ideology of silence always retains its mysterious danger, no matter how it is "swept under the rug". Sooner or later it will explode, as it did during Perestroika.

And here we come to the most interesting! Back to where we started. Namely, how can we a) create tension for the West and b) avoid it for ourselves?

The article offers an ingeniously simple solution: yes, simply by REDIRECTING those forces that cause chaos! From us to them.

"Social entropy is very toxic. It is not recommended to work with it in our home conditions. It needs to be taken out somewhere far away. Export for disposal on foreign territory. Exporting chaos is not a new thing. "Divide and conquer" is an ancient recipe. Separation is synonymous with randomization. Rally your own + divide others = you will rule both those and others."

This is the whole essence of Surkov's idea. "Stable people" will remain in Russia, and we will send the "unstable" ones somewhere… to the Donbass! Or to Syria. Or to Africa. And let them frolic there, convert passionarity into geopolitical benefits.

But this is not the true depth of Surkov's thought! She is in the future. In a huge perspective for the future.

Let's imagine that the economic and social situation in Russia will deteriorate. And a new layer of dissatisfied will appear. How to dispose of it? Yes, just open the gates somewhere to Latvia, to protect the Russian-speaking people there, and at the same time for pogroms, looting and other fun. Then all potential revolutionaries will be killed, crippled, and the internal problem is solved - moreover, a hotbed of external tension has been created, which can be successfully used in diplomatic bargaining.

And the greater the factors of internal pressure, the more it will be possible to splash out dissatisfied people outside. This is what Iran is doing, endlessly pouring its potential oppositionists into proxy forces throughout the Middle East. And a country that is far enough away from economic success is so successfully solving the problem of stability. We just need to dispose of all potential revolutionaries. Not to repress them, not to destroy them, but to use them usefully.
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Is "settler" a moral category?

The people who promote the idea of modern "settlerism" typically try to pass it off as some kind of materialist thing because, technically, it describes a real economic phenomenon.

But I don't think it's used that way, I think it's used as a moral category, a way of attacking white people, and often conversely describing non-whites as colonized. The problem is, the only colonized people in North America are the indigenous tribes. Everyone else would be some flavor of "settler" on their stolen land. That this sort of woke blood and soil nationalism immediately stops at the first sufficiently sad sob story and declares anyone who has ever faced racial mistreatment by the government for any reason "colonized" shows that we've left materialism behind a long time ago and are dealing with liberal idealist moral categories.

The big one is black descendants of slaves. If anything, they're a sort of forced settler, made to settle the land in bondage and in the service of white masters. But they are settlers nonetheless, and many of their racial grievances with the US political system are settler grievances. What was "40 acres and a mule" if not a settler grievance? What is this shirt rending over the government ensuring whites got all the best land if not a settler grievance? It should be obvious that they, along with other non-whites, were a part of a racial caste system, and they were at the bottom of it, they weren't "colonized" in any meaningful way.

What's more, it sort of betrays an odd view of race. White people are practically viewed like High Elves from a fantasy setting, a race of partially artificial high men not truly of this world, almost like they descended from the sky to "settle" various places, while non-whites are the children of the earth, the native sons of wherever their feet may tread. The bullshit you saw with Gazi and his cult talking about how they were going to farm by singing and dancing for the plants seems like the natural conclusion of this sort of thing.
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And what criteria did you use to determine that?

What are the criteria that you consider halmarks of Communism?

What criteria do you consider exclusionary to Communism (things that aren't compatible with Communism)?

And what criteria do you see as exclusive to Communism (things that a group has to do or work towards to be a Communist group)?
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Is shoplifting based and red pilled or should communists not do it. Is it a good way to make porky be unprofitable? A few people I know shoplift and I don't know what to think about it?
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Why did the CIA and related agencies invest so much time/effort into things like UFOs, ESP, reading the future, etc.?
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The only based method to come out of Anarchism. Why was noone ever able to refute it? Embracing uncomprimising illegality seperates the revolutionary from the reformists. Pic somewhat related
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The Zapatista question

It seems like there is a vast misconception among certain group of posters probably hispanic americans tjat believe the Zapatistas is a revolutionary force, why is this? What are zapatistas doing that you guys consider to be revolutionary, since when is selling commodities (coffee) and going on vacation to europe considered revolutionary?
Is the revolutionary struggle so doomed you are now getting excited over Prodhonian-tier capitalism?
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The end of science as we know it

Well it has almost been a year scene COVID started, and all of the attempts by the scientific establishment to prevent it, masks, social distancing, vaccines, have all failed, with the omicron the vax is basically useless. All of these measures while partially effective, were sold to the public as silver bullets, when they were not, and when they failed to be silver bullets a lot of people just stopped trusting science. Fauci lied and now people don't trust him.
I know this is anadotal but a lot of people I know irl who lined up to get the vax in may don't want to get a booster, don't want to wear masks, etc. Over the past few mounts their has been a massive collapse in people's trust in science. Their hasn't been much polling on this, but just looking at the people around me, their has defiantly been an ideological shift away from the scientific establishment.
This will probably lead to a very dramatic shift in how people view the world, we will now live in a world where many people don't believe in established scientific facts. What this results in, who knows, but this will probly have a big historical impact.
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Average raider discussion

Average teenage raider discussion thread for discussing the average teenage raider

Post your favorite salt and autism and watch them sperg out over lack of sex/retarded brains/inability to get into their dad's gun locker before school
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News 12/3/21

Request submitted in Bolivia for arrest of coup leader Luis Fernandez Camacho
Former legislator Lidia Patty said she had presented a request for Mr Camacho’s arrest for crimes of sedition, terrorism and conspiracy that are being investigated with regard to the events of November 2019, when he led protesters in ransacking the presidential palace, tearing down the indigenous Wiphala flag and announcing, Bible in hand, that “God has returned … Pachamama [the Mother Earth spirit revered by many indigenous Bolivians] will never return to the palace. Bolivia belongs to Christ.”

China slams US ‘democracy’ summit as ‘a trick to fool citizens and a tool to implement hegemony abroad’
BEIJING will publish a report entitled China: Democracy That Works on Satuday as it slammed a forthcoming US “summit for democracy” as “the very opposite of democracy.” Vice Foreign Minister Le Yucheng said the US summit, a two-day virtual meeting aimed at shoring up international backing for Washington’s new cold war, will “do no good to global solidarity, no good to co-operation and no good to development.”

Indonesian firms, unions in waiting game after job law ruling
In its ruling last month, the Constitutional Court found a number of procedural faults that rendered the legislation “unconstitutional” after the law was challenged by Indonesian labour unions. The government has been given two years to fix the faults, failing which, the legislation will be deemed permanently invalid.

Gazprom Gains Control of Russia’s Top Social Network
Russia’s Gazprom has gained control of the country’s largest social media network, VKontakte, following a string of deals to buy out Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov from the platform's holding company. The transactions give the Russian state significant involvement in a key part of Russia’s online space at a time when critics say the Kremlin is on an aggressive drive to boost its control over social media platforms.

Biden administration refuses to ban killer robots
US President Joe Biden has refused to sign a binding international agreement tightly regulating the use of “killer robots.” Campaigners fear such devices will launch an unstoppable arms race toward “digital dehumanization.”
The US prefers a “non-binding code of conduct” regarding Lethal Autonomous Weapons Systems (LAWS, aka killer robots), State Department official Joshua Dorosin said at a meeting in Geneva on Thursday.

Palestinian Authority struggles to pay public employees
After years of economic stagnation, authorities in the occupied West Bank say they are struggling to pay salaries for public employees, as soaring inflation, dwindling donor aid and Israel’s withholding of vital tax revenues strangle the Palestinian Authority’s (PA) already crippled budget.

Rafale: UAE and France strike deal for largest jet order during Macron visit
The United Arab Emirates has made the world's largest order of Rafale fighter jets from France, in a move that aims to further cement relations between the two countries. Worth nearly $15bn, the UAE deal is the biggest order of the warplane outside of the French armed forces and comes after deals this year were made with Croatia, Egypt and Greece.

Gove calls for Lewis Hamilton car sponsorship U-turn after Grenfell outcry
Michael Gove, the secretary of state for levelling up, housing and communities, spoke out after Grenfell survivors branded the deal “truly shocking”. He said he was “deeply disappointed Mercedes are accepting sponsorship from cladding firm Kingspan … while the Grenfell inquiry is ongoing”.

Unison and Salford Council campaign wins care workers pay rise worth £19m
Employees of Anchor Hanover housing association in Salford in north-west England staged protests and rallies demanding better pay and won a wage of £9.90 an hour — which the Living Wage Foundation says is the minimum necessary for a “decent standard of living.”

Emmanuel Macron accused of trying to ‘rehabilitate’ Mohammed bin Salman
Human rights groups have criticised Emmanuel Macron’s planned meeting with Mohammed bin Salman in Saudi Arabia on Saturday, which will mark the first one-on-one public meeting of a major western leader with the crown prince since the state-sponsored assassination of the journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
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Cuba and North Korea

Why did they survive when all other Marxist-Leninist states either collapsed or transitioned to a mixed economy. What did these nations do correctly that other Marxist-Leninist states failed to do that resulted in their continued survival?
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Mod Recruitment

Hello leftypol,
we are looking for new moderation staff who can help manage the site from around the world. We are especially interested in applicants availabile outside of standard North American and Western European time zones. Speaking a language other than English is also a bonus. If you are interested, please reply with a few posts you've made and a unique phrase or tripcode. Then send an email to [email protected] including your unique phrase or tripcode letting us know your timezone, why you wish to become a moderator and any relevant experience or skills you may have.
Use this thread for relevant questions, off-topic will be removed.

Thanks a lot, see you around.
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BEHOLD DENGS GRANDSON (first and second image)




(this is a shitpost i do respect mao but at the same time jesus christ the differences in the grandsons)
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Chairman Foster passed away 60 years ago today (September 1, 1961) in the USSR.

Say something nice about him whether you're CPUSA or not.
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What is happening here, ever seance covid happened their has been a massive media blackout on anything coming out of Venezuela. I haven't even herd the dumb propoganda against them, absolutly no info has been reported on about them.
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SpaceX is going bankrupt

The USA is still using soviet space engines… ahahaha
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Corona riot in rotterdam

Police shot with live munition
Reportedly one casualty


Im currenctly located 1 km away
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Russian Thread

Please come back Rusanon Comrades! Save us from the polyp and lolbert raids.

Я вас категорически приветствую.

- A westoid who misses you.
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Why? What’s with the double standard

Mutts really be complaining about commie blocks being absolutely soulless and then the vast majority of them go on to rent homes that literally look like this…
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Nicolae Ceaușescu

Can we have a discussion about this man?

Was he a good leader/ communist? Or was he just revisionist moron who ruined his country?

Are the rumors that he behaved like literal tsar/king? What about the palace he built?

How is he viewed in contemporary Romania?

Some people even call him "romanian Tito" because he held an independent position in the Warsaw pact. He even refused to take part in the "Operation Dunaj" in 1968 against reformists in Czechoslovakia. He even held a speech in support of Dubček on 21 august 1968.
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Neo-El Salvador arrives from the future / Bitcoin city

So i hadn't actually heard about this until a few days after it happened, But while looking at crypto shit i discovered that apparently the President of El-Salvador is basically trying to build Galts Gulch / Rapture IRL with the use of buttcoin as its basis.


<Will be a planned built community in the wheel-bulb-spoke style.

<Will be 'ecological' and will gain all its power from a planned thermo plant at the base of a nearby volcano.
<Will have personal income tax, Corporate tax, Capital gains tax, Payroll tax or property rates/taxes. - Only a 6% GST/VAT to pay for public services.
<Will use Bitcoin as its primary currency.

Does this have any implications for the future of capitalism

<My opinion.

Much like the 'EPCOT' idea that Walt Disney had to make it work you would eventually have to revise the idea so much to make it work it basically turns a UtopSoc Owenist commune / Fiume/Carnero rip off lel.
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5 years ago, we lost a real one.
Press F to pay respects.
And because of the 150 character limits, now I'm going to make some questions that are beyond this thread.
What's your opinion on the way he led Cuba?
Was he a better guerilla leader than Mao?
Do you think he kept with marxism till the very end?
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The Oxford High School shooting: What lessons are to be drawn?
>A grim scene, all too familiar in American life, occurred Tuesday afternoon as 15-year-old sophomore Ethan Crumbley carried out a mass shooting at Oxford High School in a suburban community on the outer edges of the Detroit, Michigan Metro region.

One has to ask whether the same conditions that provoked Ethan Crumbley to his violent act also apply to Kyle Rittenhouse. It in no way justifies Rittenhouse getting off Scot free for homicide, but might not the same sick society have driven them both? My answer would be yes.
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Seriously what was this war over

In a materialist view of history most African slaves emancipated themselves or weren’t enslaved wether or not they were in the USA which is why communities like Gullah geechee even exist and most Jewish and European slave owners were enslaving themselves along with the fact that multiple states predominantly featuring major cities already banned that shit in favour of industrial machinery. What the hell was the point? Was it over territorial disputes, did southerners just not like the idea of a federal government like the TPLFs view on Ethiopia, was it all just some sham so industrialists could make quick cash off a pointless war? I need answers
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Hey left-coms, i have a question. So is pol pots Cambodia the best type socialism ever achieved given that commodity production under pol pots reign was practically non-existent? Pol Pot had to be the best to you right? even with 2 million or a quarter of the population in his country dead.
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Barbados ditches Britain's Queen Elizabeth to become a republic
Now that Barbados became a republic, what's Leftypol's opinion on this?
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It's like watching a football superstar who was a fan favorite for years waste away his reputation continuing to play when he just dosent have it anymore

Get rest Noam stop brotha
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/leftybritpol/ - Winter of Pisscontent Edition

I grieve in stereo, the stereo sounds strange
I know that if you hide, it doesn't go away
If you get out of bed and find me standing all alone
Open-eyed, burn the page, my little dark age
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Big discussion is anti bullying week bourgeoisie propaganda.
Or anti reactionary. Is anti bullying week class reductionist or anti reactionary. Anti-bullying week seems a bit liberal in my opinion but but it has some anti reactionary themes. And this question is basically about is this acceptable in the left wing or is it just all bourgeoisie propaganda just to divide the people and other humanist bullshit.

My opinion is that is liberal but has some anti reactionary qualities and also class reductionism is a myth.

You can find out by two video by non-compete 1 FEAR is haunting the left
. 2 Which is Worse: Capitalism or Racism?
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News 12/2/21

Libya court reinstates Saif al-Islam Gaddafi as presidential candidate
The Sabha Court of Appeal on Thursday accepted the appeal submitted by Saif al-Islam Gaddafi against his disqualification from the list of candidates for the 24 December presidential elections, local media reported. He had lodged an appeal earlier in the day at the court in Sabha against the electoral commission's rejection of his application last month, AFP reported.

The Takeaway: Israel’s military threats shadow Iran nuclear talks
While the parties to the Joint Comprehensive of Action (JCPOA) and the United States (which withdrew from the JCPOA in May 2018) are gathered in Vienna to explore ways to reassemble the Iran nuclear deal, Israel is waging an unsubtle parallel effort to block a new deal and shape the post-talk strategic landscape no matter the outcome of the talks.

Yemen war: Saudi Arabia lobbying campaign 'shut down' UN investigation
A UN investigation into human rights violations committed in the Yemen conflict was shut down following an intensive Saudi lobbying campaign, according to a report in the Guardian. Sources with close knowledge of the process said that Saudi Arabia had used “incentives and threats” to force members of the UN Human Rights Council (HRC) to vote against extending the independent war crimes investigation.

Putin accuses management of falsifying data at Russian mine where 51 died
"The management of the mine had systematically taken measures to hide the facts of excessive methane gas levels in the mine," Putin told a televised meeting with officials, citing a preliminary report given to him by investigators. "The results of toxic gas sensors were falsified," he added.

Ukrainian President Zelensky had warned of coup plot. Protesters now warn of his political ploy
Organizers of Wednesday’s demonstration told The Globe that the “coup” their banner referred to was the one they saw as being carried by Mr. Zelensky, who they say has violated Ukraine’s constitution by concentrating power in the president’s office since winning a 2019 election over incumbent Petro Poroshenko.

Sudanese Communist Party calls for solidarity actions as protests demand transfer to civilian rule
THE Sudanese Communist Party (SCP) has called for international efforts to support the struggle for democracy and social justice as mass demonstrations continue despite a brutal clampdown. It called for all communist and workers’ parties to continue solidarity actions and condemn state oppression as tens of thousands take to the streets.

Cuba to upgrade homegrown COVID-19 vaccine to confront Omicron
The Caribbean island nation, whose economy hinges on tourism, sharply eased entry requirements in mid-November following a successful inoculation drive with domestically developed vaccines. Both infections and deaths from COVID-19 have dropped off to 2% or less of their peaks, according to a Reuters tally.

'Surreal': Biden Invites Venezuelan Coup Leader Juan Guaidó to US 'Summit for Democracy'
U.S. President Joe Biden was nearly the victim of a right-wing coup on January 6, but that didn't stop him from inviting Venezuela's right-wing coup leader Juan Guaidó to the United States' so-called "Summit for Democracy"—a development that critics say illustrates the "cynical, hypocritical, and completely counter-productive" nature of the upcoming meeting.

Government warns public vs giving funds to CPP-NPA
The Anti-Terrorism Council (ATC) yesterday warned the public, including politicians, against providing money and material support to the Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP)/New People’s Army (NPA)/National Democratic Front (NDF).

US spy planes made record number of sorties near China last month, Beijing think tank says
American aircraft carried out 94 reconnaissance flights over the South China Sea near the Chinese coast in November, according to the SCSPI. It said a P-8A anti-submarine patrol aircraft flew over the Taiwan Strait on Monday and was 29km (18 miles) from the mainland’s territorial waters.
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Resist the glowies!

Anyone who attacks:
>North Korea
Or any other American enemy is a glowie unless proven otherwise.

Claiming to "side with the people against their government" isn't good enough. That was the favorite catchphrase of the fucking Bush administration. What kind of leftist are you if you're on the same page as fucking W? These people can start by explaining which group *specifically* we should be supporting and demonstrate that they're not connected to or allied with US-NATO. Even that's not foolproof, Solidarnosc in Poland was being secretly funded by the CIA and the Vatican, though the fact that Reagan was publicly creaming himself over what was supposed to be an "independent" labor union should have been a massive tell.
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Irrationalism and Marxism

How does Marxism deal with the fact that it's based on logic and most people aren't? Given the preponderance of magical, conspiratorial, and religious thinking, most studies have concluded that people are somewhere in the middle of the spectrum of rationalist to intuitionist thinker and very rational people are actually pretty rare (probably autists or autist adjacent). And that intuitionists outnumber rationalists 2:1.

So the vast majority of people base their beliefs on intuitions all or at least part of the time. Dialectical logic is a form of logic and therefore rationalist. Doesn't this mean that any logic based philosophical system or analysis will fail to win popular support? Unless its INTUITIVE most people won't really bother to investigate it, which partly explains why Marxism is so unpopular to begin with.
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Those guys are fucked economically and geopolitically

That country resembles France in how screwed it actually is, much like france
America has
More enemies than ever.
Complete reliance on the developing world to function proven by the major supply crisis they’re still in
Serious inflation, homeless and drug rates.
Domestic terrorism in the form of actual terrorist groups, constant news of mass and school shootings instigated by the us governments god awful policies for both non and American civilians.
Major issues with polluted water and somehow faces water shortages due to shit health and safety regulations, unsustainable urban sprawl and intentional droughts by landlords for property value manipulation
Horrendous ethnic relations that are somehow getting worse every year
Blatantly fascist leaders getting into power
Nonexistent trading allies with the developing world ffs not even South Korea is trading with them over China and India due to their endless sanctions, coups, corruption and other bs
An economy that’s growing but with literally nothing to show for it because all the “wealth” is either extorted capital via reserve currency or hyper resource inefficient means of industrial production while infrastructure and industrial tech is either stagnating or declining to the point where they’re now using more prison slaves and child slaves than ever to keep their batshit obnoxious and inflating economy alive

It’s funny watching that countries federal, provincial and even local governments come up with increasingly obnoxious stupid excuses for their endless mismanagement over and over again something I thought only the québécois, imperial Japan and the Francs pulled a few years ago
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You know they're just selectively handing out money to their friends, right?

In the Western world currency is created mostly through a formerly illegal scam called fractional reserve banking.

The banks then loan out this money to their friends and people they want to scalp economically.

Their friends don't have to pay it back, or pay it back with virtually no interest or no interest at all.

Their suckers pay it back with enough interest to cover for their friends not paying back the loans.

At the end of the day the people fabricating the currency can hand out an infinite amount of money and transfer all the wealth to their friends while tricking everyone else into working for them for free.

If you're poor, it has nothing to do with how much work you do because the ultra rich don't work at all. They pay people to do that and at most make little decisions about who they want to rob using coupon currency.

The banks could hand you a billion dollars today and it wouldn't make a difference to the economy because the economy in the USA isn't build on production, labor, invention, or anything like that. It's built on robbing suckers that do stuff and give away their things in exchange for unredeemable coupons. As long as there are suckers to be robbed, the USA's economy will still function as it is no matter how much is given away.

Imagine working or giving away your family's land in exchange for a currency like USD. You're literally getting robbed.
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A critique of Juche

The following video provides information on how Juche is revisionist and that anyone who likes Juche is a anti communist retard. I think the best example of an anti communist retard is "AusJuche" although he may just work for the CIA.

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Nationalist Democrats

What do you think would be the result of a political party that is otherwise Left leaning, but has a principle concept that democracies don't work unless their are not conflicts of interest from multi-nationalism?

There is this big empty spot in the political spread where the Left isn't even trying to get votes. All the nationalists end up voting for the party of the big corporations and ultra-rich just because they cater to nationalism. The Left could easily take those votes and push through policies to make us all wealthier, but they refuse to budge on mutli-nationalism.

We're talking about half of the USA's population voting Republican solely because they want nationalist policies. It's not a trivial matter at all, the Left is not getting the policies it wants like taxing the rich because of a few multi-national hardliners whose only exception to their multi-nationalist line in the sand is Israel, an ethnostate they support 100% through actual policy, if not political campaigning.

I just don't see how the Democratic platform is going to work when each national group in it is just in it to advance their own group and only see working together as a temporary arrangment to advance their own nation's interests.
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Why do we need money and markets?
Why can't we just produce the stuff we need and give it to people? It just makes sense to me, if you need 100 houses, build the houses, along with food and other shit, why do we need to let the market decide ? Sounds incredibly inefficient to me. Makes no sense to me, this being said I'm retarded
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>Rock music is a broad genre of popular music that originated as "rock and roll" in the United States in the late 1940s and early 1950s, developing into a range of different styles in the mid-1960s and later, particularly in the United States and the United Kingdom. It has its roots in 1940s and 1950s rock and roll, a style that drew directly from the blues and rhythm and blues genres of African-American music and from country music.

What is a materialist analysis of ROCK music? Why did it die out compared to other genres? Why did the soviet union ban it? Is it bourgeois? And why do boomers like it so much?
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Supreme Court launches frontal assault on right to abortion
>For the first time in US history, the court is preparing to rescind a basic democratic right.

A reactionary supreme court along with weak Democratic party has created this toxic political spectacle. Historically speaking no democratic society can endure with this level of social and economical disparity. The first attempt was Trump's January 6 coup of this year which both camps today are trying their best to cover it up for their own interests.
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Is it possible to really understand Marx if you haven't read Hegel?
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Police murder man in wheelchair by shooting him in the back

This man was allegedly shoplifting and going into a Lowes when cops rolled up and shot him in the back
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Why did J Sakai believe in the "Servile Insurrection"?

For those who don't know, much of the politics of the slave states and, later, the Confederacy was fearmongering about a supposed "servile insurrection" that would take place if the slaves were freed. Essentially, emancipation would mean the slave states getting the Haiti treatment.

Well, this didn't happen. In the wake of the defeat of the Confederacy and the abolition of slavery, the newly emancipated black population largely sought peaceful economic and and political integration. These aspirations were crushed by a terror campaign by the Ku Klux Klan, who used lynchings, banditry and intimidation to repress the political rise of blacks and establish the Segregation/Jim Crow regime that would come to dominate the former slave states for nearly a century.

However, this was almost immediately subjected to a sort of revisionist history. The new narrative went that the servile insurrection was real, and the South had fallen to chaos by the rebelling blacks and their Republican collaborators, who were then fought back and vanquished by the heroic KKK who saved the South from destruction. This was originally a key tenet of the "Lost Cause" mythology that began to be spread by Neo-Confederate organizations and was the subject of "The Clansman" and its more notorious film adaptation, "Birth of a Nation".

Which, considering that this is literal KKK propaganda, it leaves me a bit curious that J Sakai not only apparently believed in this, but dedicated a whole part of Settlers (IV Ch. 4 "4. The Test of Black Reconstruction") to trying to prove its existence as some kind of proto-communist "New Afrikan" attempt at national liberation.

Is utilizing KKK propaganda going too far? What did he mean by this?
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If left-accelerationists who want to make capitalism worse in order to 'radicalize' people are wrong because they might unintentionally strengthen the system while the people remain apathetic, why doesn't that criticism also apply to electoralists who want us to vote for reforms on healthcare or immigration in order to somehow 'build class consciousness'?
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Proto-Socialists among the Founding Fathers?

Since the french revolutionaries had a lot of proto socialists among their ranks, I was wondering if there were also some among the american revolutionaries. Atleast at the initial stages of the war and founding of the US. I heard some people call Jefferson a socialist, but that seems hard to believe, since he owned slaves
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Iran Nuclear Talks

Talks in Vienna are starting over rebirthing the Iran Nuclear deal, UK & Israel sign a pact to stop Iranian Nuclearisation, Iran wants all sanctions dropped, US wants it to readhere to the agreements first. All the while, reports say Iran has the capacity to make weapons grade uranium within 2 weeks.

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/meg/ - Middle East General

This thread is for discussion about the Middle East

Long Live The Intifada

Israel/Palestine cytube still going?
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Thoughts on Euronymous?

>I’ve been very interested in communism for a while, especially the extreme countries like Albania, Kampuchea, North Korea and so on. I have to say that I have studied so much that I know that real communism would be the best possible system, BUT as I HATE people I don’t want them to have a good time, I’d like to see them rot under communist dictatorship. Ceausescu was great, we need more people like him, Stalin, Pol Pot too. I’ve been to Poland, Hungary and Czechoslovakia in the (good) old days, and was about to go to Albania, although it didn’t turn out. Poland was quite all right, but it could have been even MORE gray and depressing. I like secret police, cold war and worshiping of dictators. I like bugging and spying on people, torture chambers in police stations and that people suddenly “disappear”."
>As Mayhem is NOT a political band, I don't really like to mix topics like this into band interviews, but anyway I'm still keeping the faith. I openly admit that I am a Stalinist and I'm very fascinated by extreme countries like Albania and Romania in the good old days. I have thought about quitting from the Communist Party though, but this is just because they are not brutal enough any more. It was much better in the '70s, when they were very Albania-inspired and the leader even visited Cambodia during the Red Khmer period and had dinner with Pol Pot! Those were the days!
>People know we are sick, and we give a fuck. Thats what we live (die) for… Stalinism. We hate does 'PEACE, LOVE and DEMOCRACY'-ideas. WAR, SODOMY and DICTATION! We support all extreme and oppressed states like the old ALBANIA, IRAN , KAMPUCHEA under the RED KHMERS and so on. People who are dying and suffering!
>We have studied so much politics/theory/economy (Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin , Mao, Hoxha) that we know that the world will sooner or later become communistic. Its the marketing economy and capitalisms ideas that will be forced forward sooner or later. Maybe in 30 years, maybe in 300 years. The problem is that communism is fucking good for the people, it's total freedom. Thats why we never wish that it happens. The world can go to hell. We want back the old Stalinist dictatorship, there its was gray, misery and evil. THE BERLIN WALL SHALL RISE AGAIN!!
>We were member of a party who was very extreme, they supported the old Albania and their former leader who even was in Kampuchea under the Red Khmers and ate dinner with Pol Pot! Incredibly good! But the party turned humanitarian, so we shall leave it.
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Cowboy Theology

I've heard it said, and it stuck with me, that American macho-masculinity is a product of settler colonialism. That the values of aggression, domination, toughness, and hyper-individualism are products of American settler colonialism, often romanticized in movies as "the old west". That American macho-tough guys are just larping their frontiersman ancestors, that now that even "manifest destiny" has been fulfilled there needs to be another frontier, whether it be outer space, cyberspace, or even an economic frontier. That the expansionist nature of colonialism and really, just capitalism itself ingrained itself in the burger psyche and can explain a lot of the pathologies of the American male psyche today. It's the embodiment of the attitude of the colonizer.

Really if you grew up here, especially boomers watching Clint Eastwood westerns and gunsmoke or whatever, or little house on the prarie (tv series based on a book written by a rabidly far right, anti new dealer reactionary woman). You grew up romanticizing the old west. Whats fucked up is that what we've been taught to romanticize is the history of colonization and extermination of indigenous people. Imagine if the germans won ww2 and made endless films showing the extermination of eastern europeans as necessary and the slavs unspeaking savages who only exist to antagonize german settlers by stopping them from claiming their rightful lebensraum. As a side note, thats where the decolonial shit comes in, I mean when people say that America is based on racism, it actually really is. The founding fathers were slavers, I mean the guy on the $20 bill is literally an ethnic cleanser by today's standards. TBH it's truly horrifying when you actually realize it

All this machoman shit is just the result of the mode of behavior that settlers acted out in their inevitable march westward, and the modern day descendants LARPing their frontiersman ancestors mindlessly.

Do people agree?
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I don't personally work for any government, but I do have close friends who have connections with the KGB and CIA, could care less if I'm believed. I'm willing to answer questions, this site could use the insight I think. if you want I could state a random fact
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Why do fashoids glorify Otoya Yamaguchi for murdering Inejirō Asanuma?

I get that creeps like Gavin McInnes make glib jokes about the this leftist politician getting killed because they like to jack off while fantasizing about hurting people they dislike, but do they not realize that Otoya dealt a terrible blow to the cause of Japanese nationalism by doing what he did? Inejirō Asanuma was one of the few prominent politicians in the 1950's who was advocating for total autonomy from America and the removal of all US military bases, as well as the formation of a pan-Asian bloc to defend against foreign imperialist meddling. Otoya was (unwittingly or otherwise) doing the bidding of the US state department by icing this politician who was threatening American hegemony. I don't think that McInnes and his ilk would be making these stupid fucking wisecracks if they knew that Oyoto and his fellow "nationalists" were actually cucked idiots who undermined Japan's national interests and further enshrined the LDP's (and by extension, America's) domination of the country.
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/nordpol/ - Nordic General - Skåneutgåvan

Thread for all things Nordic. Recommended languages: Finnish, Scandinavian and English.
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is the sinking RMS Titanic a representation of the failure of capitalism and class struggle is the sinking of the RMS Titanic a result of the failure of capitalism
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NATO/UN Military Intervention

What exactly determines whether NATO/the UN will militarily intervene in any given conflict?


As you can see here, there are multiple ongoing conflicts currently with implications for "human rights" et cetera that the media sparsely reports on and where there is no NATO/UN military intervention. Why is that?
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News 12/1/21

Libya: What's next for Saif al-Islam Gaddafi?
Saif al-Islam Gaddafi's attempts to contest a ruling disqualifying him as a candidate for Libya's upcoming presidential elections has been thwarted by the general, who over the past week dispatched fighters to the southern city of Sabha to blockade the court where a legal review of Gaddafi's appeal was set to take place.

HBDH Militia: Action against police with IED and fireworks in Amed
On 29.11.2021, around 00:00, the police checkpoint and police station located on Cemiloğlu street between Amed/Bağlar Muradiye and Fatih neighborhoods were hit by fireworks and IEDs by our militia unit. In addition, 2 civilian vehicles belonging to the enemy, parked at a point close to the police station, were also targeted by our unit.

How Mosul’s liberators became occupiers
He has no choice but to pay, as otherwise he will be unable to get his goods past the checkpoints, which the militias also run, controlling access to the city. Which also explains how tankers full of petrol that Mosul receives from Iraq’s refineries can leave the city again, to be sold in the Kurdistan Region or even in Iran. And as the militias get rich, Mosul’s civilians queue.

‘For How Long Will This Continue’: CPI-M Protests Against Incidents of Communal Violence in Countr
Prompted by the recent spurt in cases of communal violence across the country that highlights the growing impact of the “hate-mongering by right-wing forces” on the nation’s social fabric, members of the Communist Party of India (Marxist) staged a protest here on Wednesday.

Putin demands NATO guarantees not to expand eastward
President Vladimir Putin said Wednesday that Moscow would seek Western guarantees precluding any further NATO expansion and deployment of its weapons near his country’s borders, a stern demand that comes amid fears of a Russian invasion of Ukraine.

OPCW chiefs accused of hypocrisy and ignoring Turkey’s alleged gassing of Kurds
Campaigners blasted the chemical watchdog for its “stubborn refusal” to acknowledge reports that Turkey has used banned munitions in Iraqi Kurdistan, accusing the OPCW of being “a tool of imperialism.” “The OPCW must not turn its back on the Kurds as they plea for their lives in Iraqi Kurdistan,” the Coalition Against Chemical Weapons in Kurdistan said today.

Myanmar army helicopter attacks ‘force thousands to flee’
Local media report civilians forced to shelter in forest and other places after air raids on more than a dozen villages in Depayin, Sagaing region. The reported attacks over the weekend targeted 15 villages in Depayin township, the same area where about 70 supporters of Aung San Suu Kyi’s National League for Democracy (NLD) party were killed by a military-backed gang in 2003 during a visit by the Nobel Peace laureate.

U.N. pushes cash handouts to avert mass poverty in Afghanistan
In what the U.N. Development Programme (UNDP) described as an "alarming" socio-economic outlook for Afghanistan for the next 13 months, it also pushed a $100 million "cash for work" project to boost employment and $90 million in small business payments.

France wants EU help in handling UK
Admitting that “there are tensions and difficulties, and it is normal,” Secretary of State for European Affairs Clement Beaune said that French fishermen want to continue their business and therefore measures should be taken swiftly.

Arctic Could See More Rain Than Snow By 2060 as Region Warms – Study
The Arctic region could see a faster-than-predicted shift from snow to rain as its main form of precipitation if global carbon emissions are not drastically cut, an international group of scientists have claimed in research published Tuesday in the Nature Communications journal.
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How can I convince my dad not to buy an investment property

How can I convince my dad not to get an apartment as an investment property. He's socdem inclined and a Labor voter. We are in australia. Pls help
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Do proles actually find algebra hard or is math in the west just poorly taught?
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Education vs Wealth

Why has there been a divergence between elitism based on education vs income? In the mid 20th century people voted based on income, and education and income were synonymous with college educated people voting right. Now there has been a reversal where highly educated people vote for the ""left"" party and high income people vote for the right.

Why did this change occur and doesn't it make class unification difficult if the whole left is dominated by identity interests and the "academic left"?
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Explain Cybernetics to a Retard

every explanation I've heard of it is convoluted as fuck and doesn't make any sense. Can someone describe in Layman's terms what Cybernetics even is and what function it has? Cuz I can't wrap my head around it due to how overly verbose all the descriptions I've seen on it have been.
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Education Speedrun

Hey /leftypol/. I'm compiling a list of books (or lectures, documentaries, essays) one may consider essential reading, books everyone/every leftist should read, etc so as to lay a solid intellectual foundation over the course of about a year or two. I know enough to know how deficient I really am, so I'm trying to fill in the rest of the blanks. Specifically, I'm looking for recommendations in:
>political science maybe—it's pretty much horseshit, but I like the idea of having a passing familiarity with it
>a little bit of anthropology
>the absolute basics of the major world religions and mythologies
>anything else you think is relevant
>fiction's allowed if it's really that important
None of this necessarily has to be Marxist or even left-adjacent. For the sake of simplicity and wider applicability, ​assume I don't know the material already. I'll drop some recommendations myself once the thread gets going. Thanks.
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Surviving Work

Hello Comrades. It's been a while, hope you all are doing well in these horrific interesting times we all find ourselves.

I've burned the fuck out. Life has continued to kick me in the teeth and I've recently found myself unable to work a normal job like I have been doing most of my life.

How do you do it? Any tips? Is traditional work as we have it in most industrial societies just fucking bulllshit? Should I just become a criminal of some kind? How much can I sell my blood for now anyway?
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where the fuck did all these Primmies come from?

Is it just me, or is AnPrim/neo-Luddite sentiment starting to rise on the left? I've seen it mostly on Twitter, where you'll run into all these self-described "Anti-Civ Anarchists" who tell you to read Desert and spend their time prepping for the climate rapture by posting on Twitter like terminally online shut-ins. The whole gist of their ideology from what I can gather is that they think the total collapse of human civilization is inevitable and that the only way to save the planet is by accelerating it and sending humanity back to the stone age. For the most part, They share the typical retarded anarchist shit like screaming about the evils of bedtimes and neo-pronoun discourse but what sets them apart is their unironic support for Kaczynski and belief that everything from computers to electricity will be completely abolished with no sustainable alternatives. They'll tell you they TOTALLY aren't AnPrims though and haven't seemed to figure out how to feed and medicate 8 billion people without modern tech and industry.

At first, I didn't give a fuck about these tards because they hardly exist outside of Twitter and are pampered products of the same civilization they claim to hate but out of fucking nowhere I've started seeing the same sentiment from other leftists. Not hostility to technology per se, but belief that Socialism necessitates a primate reduction in living standards. Like, Third-Wordlists are annoying as it is with all the idpol but now they're pushing this idea that everything from electricity to entertainment are first-world privileges built off muh superprofits that will be abolished under Communism. Then, you'll see these weird vegan marxoids who consider milk and meat to be labor aristocratic luxuries next to no one will get under Communism. If you point out how retarded that is, they'll call you a Consoomer and act like your consumption habits are what's killing the planet. Even Neo-Luddite bullshit has made its way leftward as I've seen multiple self-described Marxists claim that sustainable production is entirely impossible with bizarre hatred of techno-optimism.

I can't be the only one who's noticed this, right? What do you think our response to these beliefs should be? I get that the working class is gonna have to make some big sacrifices during the revolutionary period but I can't help but think that campaigning on the promise of reducing living standards and removing access to amenities isn't a good way to win over the working class. Some people have said this ties into the whole degrowth movement and California banning the sale of prebuilt gaming PCs due to "Consumption laws" but there's something deeper going on here. The one common trend I've seen across all these tendencies is a belief that consumption in the first world by proles is what's killing the planet and we need to drastically reduce it to levels that people would find extremely inconvenient. That sounds like red austerity, not worker liberation.
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"Westernoids will never get this" thread.

I'll start: picrel.

Post more shit that non-Eastern-bloc faggots will NEVER get.

Let's focus on fucking Eastern-KINO these mother fuckers never even heard of.
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U.S. Intel Shows Russia Plans for Potential Ukraine Invasion

>The U.S. has shared intelligence including maps with European allies that shows a buildup of Russian troops and artillery to prepare for a rapid, large-scale push into Ukraine from multiple locations if President Vladimir Putin decided to invade, according to people familiar with the conversations.

>That intelligence has been conveyed to some NATO members over the past week to back up U.S. concerns about Putin’s possible intentions and an increasingly frantic diplomatic effort to deter him from any incursion, with European leaders engaging directly with the Russian president. The diplomacy is informed by an American assessment that Putin could be weighing an invasion early next year as his troops again mass near the border.

>The information lays out a scenario where troops would cross into Ukraine from Crimea, the Russian border and via Belarus, with about 100 battalion tactical groups – potentially around 100,000 soldiers – deployed for what the people described as an operation in rough terrain and freezing conditions, covering extensive territory and prepared for a potentially prolonged occupation.

>Two of the people said about half that number of tactical groups was already in position and that any invasion would be backed up by air support.

>The two people said that Moscow had also called up tens of thousands of reservists on a scale unprecedented in post-Soviet times. They explained the role of reservists in any conflict would be to secure territory in a later phase after the tactical battalions paved the way. Russia hasn’t publicly announced any major call-up of reservists.

>One of the people said the U.S. had also shared information about an exponential rise in disinformation targeting Kyiv and that Moscow has recruited agents to try and sow destabilization inside Ukraine.

>Putin last week denied any intention to invade but welcomed the alarm as evidence his actions had gotten the attention of the U.S. and its allies, which he accused of failing to take Russia’s “red lines” over Ukraine seriously enough.

>America and others are not saying a war is certain, or even that they know for sure Putin is serious about one. The people said it is likely he has not yet decided what to do. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said this month: “I can’t speak to Russia’s intentions. We don’t know what they are.”

>A senior administration official said the U.S. has under Biden demonstrated it is willing to use a number of tools to address harmful Russian actions and would continue to do so. The White House said it had no further comment.

>The Russian leader has a history of brinkmanship and prior buildups on the border have come to naught. But officials say he is positioning to act if he wanted to, and they note that even as troops withdrew from an earlier escalation in April they left equipment behind, making the fresh buildup faster and easier.

>For Putin, Ukraine is unfinished business after his annexation of Crimea in 2014. He sees Ukraine as part of Russia and bristles at its outreach with the west, especially its nascent military engagement with NATO. While he has said he doesn’t want a war, in a speech last week he said his goal was to keep the U.S. and its allies on edge for “as long as possible, so nobody gets it into their head to cause a conflict we don’t need on our western borders.” He lambasted the U.S. and others for expanding military infrastructure in Ukraine and stepping up naval missions in the Black Sea and flights by warplanes along Russia’s borders.

>Russian officials have said they want to see NATO stop its expanding cooperation with Ukraine and what Moscow sees as a buildup along its borders. There has also been some discussion of a fresh summit between Putin and U.S. President Joe Biden to defuse tensions. At the same time, Russian authorities understand that any attempt to occupy large amounts of Ukrainian territory militarily would face widespread public opposition on the ground and trigger sweeping western sanctions that could batter the Russian economy, people close to the leadership said.

>Further diplomatic flurries are likely, while the U.S. has been considering re-upping and expanding a package of measures it put together this year during the prior troop buildup which could include sanctions.

>Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov visited Washington last week and asked the Pentagon for more help defending the country’s airspace and coast. Echoing the U.S. concerns, its defense intelligence agency chief told the Military Times he believes Russia could be preparing for an attack by the end of January or early February involving airstrikes, amphibious assaults and an incursion though Belarus.

>Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba, who traveled to Brussels last week, told Ukraine television on the weekend an incursion was clearly an option for Moscow and that Kyiv needed support from others to deter it.

>Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov dismissed such talk on Sunday, saying, “this hysteria is being built up artificially.”

>“The ones who are accusing us of some kind of unusual military activity on our own territory are themselves sending their armed forces from across the ocean. I mean the United States of America. It’s not very logical and not very decent,” he told state television.

>For Biden, the actions of the Russian president present multiple challenges. They could freshly test his administration’s appetite to intervene militarily offshore. America only months ago had a a messy withdrawal of its troops from Afghanistan after two decades of conflict there. Biden has had to focus political strength on domestic priorities like his economic agenda and dealing with rising prices at the gas pumps and grocery store registers.

>The latest frictions come against a broader backdrop. Not only are troops massing again, but record-high gas prices leave Europe vulnerable to Russian largess on supplies. European Union members including Poland have also accused Russia of encouraging a refugee crisis as its ally Belarus funnels migrants toward the bloc. And a Russian weapons test that blasted a satellite out of orbit scattered a large field of debris, prompting U.S. accusations it had endangered the International Space Station’s crew.

>Still, one of the people with knowledge of U.S. intelligence said these events are not believed to be part of a wider plan but are being exploited opportunistically by the Russian president.

>Tensions between Russia and Ukraine blew up in 2014, when Moscow annexed the Crimean Peninsula and backed a separatist rebellion in the east of the country. That triggered sweeping U.S. and European sanctions, but the conflict has continued, killing about 14,000 people in east Ukraine. Two of the people said that any new attack would be on a scale far greater than seven years ago.

>One of the people said a potential joint response needed to be agreed soon among allies that would be unequivocal and overwhelming if implemented, adding there was still a window of opportunity to deter Putin. It’s unclear at this stage if that would include a possible military response. French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian on Sunday said any violation of the Ukraine border by Russia would lead to “extremely grave consequences.”

>Collaboration with Russia could also be cut off, said the person. Officials had noted small improvements in relations since Biden and Putin met in Geneva in June, including working together to tackle issues like climate change, making Moscow’s latest maneuvers all the more striking, the person added.

>The U.S. warnings of potential invasion are seen in Moscow as a sign that Washington – at least so far – has no intention of compromise and is rallying trans-Atlantic unity against Russia. “The U.S. is laying the groundwork for a unified sanctions response,” said Dmitry Suslov, an expert on Russia’s relations with the U.S. and Europe at the Higher School of Economics in Moscow.

>While Western nations do not currently know the Kremlin’s intentions, they believe that military options are being presented and have little doubt that what they’re hearing and seeing would allow for a large scale attack should Putin decide to make a move in the new year. The people said the U.S. had high confidence in the reliability of the information it had shared with allies.

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The capitalist experiment has failed

What a disaster, post the worst exploitative uber (the shit corporation) levels of scams in the capitalist economy.

And tell everyone how capitalism has failed.
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How much time will it take before they turn towards unironic traditional socialism?
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I need help on leftypedia.org to a Red army faction article
I am making a red army faction article on Leftypedia and I need your help
Here is link. https://leftypedia.org/index.php?title=Red_army_faction&action=submit
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Will the snorting continue ?

Redpill me on the cocaine business of the CIA, will the newly elected lefty governments in south America crack down on that or not ?
I'm bringing this up now because the left leaning Libre Party has won the elections in Honduras. There is a lot of cocaine business going through that country.
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Are me and the rest of my generation in the West doomed?

Is the only fate that awaits my generation to get sick and die in poverty and alone in a collapsing system surrounded by people who hate as with nobody who gives a shit? Why even care about left vs right if the only thing at the end of the tunnel is more fucking suffering? I'm not even trolling, I legitimately want to hear your opinions on this.

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an honest question regarding value and exchange

of course if a company makes profits then the profits have been created by the collective labour of the workforce, and the value of labour is determined according from the profits which it can generate in a market (if a company is losing money it has to fire people because their labour is unnecessary) - so then, if labour is valued according from its end product in exchange then what is the socialist solution to determining the value of labour in the eradication of exchange value in place of use value? and what is the incentive of trade in an economy which prices down it's products since it applies value to labour-time quantifications rather than supply and demand? if you have a socialist country, to me it will inevitably tend towards state capitalism for this reason - To have a socialist society you need leverage in terms of trade and the only way to do that is either by over-producing or over-pricing as a supplier of goods, no? but even domestically, there really isn't enough to go around in terms of "opportunities" which is why people suggest "sharing" positions, and sure, but it just seems unsustainable if you want a growing country - and also today international capital is conveniently taxed and is also an outsourcing of state functions such as employment, which to me is why leftism has tended towards this liberal moderation of state services and private markets - it is just more economically viable. china must make up the difference in it's state revenues by working it's people to death as a compromise against liberalisation - if the state becomes a corporation you are always gonna get this type of problem as far as i see - value is what is traded on it's own terms, which is why labour is also qualified into this category. Is eradicating class divisions just too expensive?
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The Federal governments should be run out across the Western world

and all their law enforcement employees during periods of bad policy should be declared enemies of the state and hunted down with their descendants.

There are less than 5 of these Federal law enforcement per US city holding the USA under the occupation of an unelected government.

The Federal government doesn't care that the Millennials won't be able to start families. They don't care that you're being starved out when the USA could have legitimately (not on paper) have been the richest country in the world.

The Feds, the people that profited from it, the unelected politicians, and the media (including social media) that manufactured the illusion of consent for this Federal government should all be executed with their descendants for their crimes against us.

We don't get a future because of them, time is basically up for us to start families, we can't even afford houses because of their policies, so I say their families shouldn't get a future and we should execute all of them.

Time is running out for the Millennials. We're not going to start a family or live our lives at all if we don't get them out of power.

We don't have time for another fake election and allowing them to run their fake elections and pretend everything is legitimate will only give the false hope.

It's time for a revolution. I'm not waiting for the next election. I want a house and a livable income right now and it's only a few of these fuckers per city keeping me from having it.

The Revolution starts New Years. It's tiime to put this crony govenrment down for good along with anyone that defends it, starting at the local level.

Seize the utilities, seize the roads, seize the property of anyone that sides with them and execute them for treason. Spread the word from city to city faster than they can stop it, or they will have a chance to surround you.

The Geneva Convention was never followed by the USA, there is no reason for anyone to follow it themselves. Cities that allow Federal forces to occupy them are enemy states and should have their water, power, and fuel cut off with zero consideration for collateral damage of a population that allowed these Federal scum to occupy their city.

Forget the Left and the Right. The media is a Federal government disinformation campaign. We just need to get these fuckers out of power so we can have a future. We can decide about all the rest of the stuff through legitimate elections after all the Feds and their kids are dead.
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why is there such a weird level of pathologizing of middle class western cultural liberals and no other particular type of liberal that exists outside of maybe a few books on how the rural conservatives work? It seems like everywhere I go on the alt-left there seems to be this weird dehumanization of liberals that seem to excessively psycho analyze them. Rather than just coming to the conclusion that most social values mostly just come down to you being peer pressured into having them. Everything else is kind of secondary honestly.
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Liberal antinatalism

Why are liberals antinatalists?
Why are they obsessed with seeing population collapse? In fact, why are liberals such stupid fucking animals devoid of foresight regarding ecology? They have to know their bizarre, anti-human, martyrdom bullshit won’t actually save our world, right? Do these dumb fags even consider what they’ll do once they’re elderly and there’s no one to care for them? Why do liberals hate children, life, and planning for the future?
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I have seen an increase in people just flat out not respecting the value of human life. Is it true that the more people there are in the world, the less and less each individual means? Back then it was all about the sanctity of human life and how war was bad and how the bell tolls and how even in death there is valor but now we live in a world without values at all, even christianity is without a soul. Hell I would say that it's one of the most decadent institutions out there, just look at how many NY libs are now tradcaths just check out the redscarepodcast subreddit and you will see what I Mean and how people keep saying how "Well idiots shouldn't breed" and all that sort of shit. Eugune had a point or some shit and it's kind of disturbing? I'm on a chan fbi.gov and they just keep talking about how certain people shouldn't breed and how good the coronavirus is and how the population should be reduced. I keep seeing how good a war with china would be even amongst normalfags because it would unite the country or some shit. Hell despite being writen as a villian, many people sympathize with people such as Kirei Kotomine from F/SN or Thanos. We are in a stage where the value of human life is net zero.
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What is the *meaning* of austerity?

Afaict it's the result of keynesianism not being able to stem a falling rate of profit anymore and porkies saying fuck it and privatizing the corporatized keynesian economy to squeeze as many drops of profit out of it as possible in their short-term junkie psychosis. Is this right? I feel like I'm generalizing the fuckton out of the history tbh.
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News 11/30/21

French police evict migrants from camp on Channel coast
Police on Tuesday tore down a makeshift camp near the northern French port of Dunkirk where scores of migrants who say they are fleeing war, poverty and persecution in the Middle East were hunkered down with hopes of reaching Britain.

Covid omicron variant linked to vaccine inequality, experts say
For almost as long as Covid-19 has been around, scientists, academics and campaigners have called on wealthy nations to share vaccines around the world — not only to protect people in those countries, but also to reduce the risk of new mutant variants emerging that could evade vaccines for everyone.

Ecuadorean President Lasso Enforces IMF-Style Tax Reform
"The bill takes effect by mandate of the Constitution," the Presidency's Communication Secretariat said in a statement, adding that enacting the law "means building a new path towards the country's recovery and generating jobs." The bill was submitted to the Congress on Oct. 28, giving lawmakers a 30-day period ending on Sunday to pass or amend it. However, the legislature, where the opposition holds a majority, failed to approve the bill.

New caravan sets off from Mexico as officials struggle with immigration claims
Some 2,000 migrants and asylum seekers departed the southern Mexican city of Tapachula near the Guatemalan border overnight on Sunday in the latest in a series of caravans setting out for the United States.

Peruvian President Rejects Corruption Accusations Against Him
On Monday, Peru’s President Pedro Castillo rejected the position adopted by the Comptroller’s Office and the Attorney General’s Office, which accused him of corruption for allegedly participating in private meetings with entrepreneurs who develop State works.

Putin Says Constitutional Right to Re-Election ‘Stabilizes’ Russia
Putin reiterated that he is still undecided about running for his fifth overall presidential term during Tuesday's appearance at an investment forum by video link. Constitutional amendments passed last year granted him the ability to stay in power until 2036 by resetting his number of terms served.

After losing immunity, KPRF lawmaker Valery Rashkin files lawsuit against Russia’s State Duma
Citing KPRF Central Committee Secretary Sergey Obukhov, Interfax reports that Rashkin filed a lawsuit with Moscow’s Tverskoy District Court due to the fact that his lawyers weren’t allowed to attend the meeting of the State Duma on November 25, during which lawmakers voted to remove his parliamentary immunity. Rashkin made a corresponding appeal to Arshba on November 21, but his request was denied.

Ukraine opens criminal case after Zelensky warning of imminent ‘coup’
Last week, Zelensky said a coup was being planned for December 1-2, involving Ukraine’s richest businessman, Rinat Akhmetov. Speaking at a lengthy news conference, he also claimed Ukrainian intelligence had audio of the plotters mentioning his name for the plan that would cost $1 billion.

Former Brook House officer became whistleblower after witnessing abuse of detainee, inquiry hears
AFORMER officer at Brook House detention centre said he decided to become a whistleblower after witnessing officers mocking a naked detainee who was in distress, an inquiry heard today. Callum Tulley, who now works as a BBC reporter, started working at Brook House, then run by security firm G4S, as an assistant custody officer in 2015 when he was 18 years old.

Morocco bought Israel's suicide drones in $22m arms deal: Report
Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) has received $22m this year in an arms deal with Morocco to supply "kamikaze" drones, Haaretz reported on Tuesday. The deal reportedly involves the purchase by Morocco of armed drones from Israel's state-owned aerospace manufacturer, according to Moroccan sources who spoke with Defense News.

Polisario Front vowed to continue its fight for Western Sahara’s independence
THE Polisario Front called today for international solidarity with Western Sahara’s independence struggle as the movement vowed to continue its fight for self-determination. Bouchraya Bachir, Polisario representative for the European Union, was speaking at a youth gathering in Spain when he decried Morocco’s failure to hold a promised independence referendum.

Autonomous Administration opens university in Raqqa
The educational model of the universities of the Autonomous Administration is based on free and democratic thinking. Instead of a paternalistic educational system, an equal relationship between students and teachers is sought, on the basis of a scientific model based on commentary, instead of the system of memorization. The Autonomous Administration of North and East Syria has already founded three universities since the Rojava Revolution.
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The end of WW1

Today, german embassadors went into France in order to sign the declaration of surrender against the Entente, ending thus the first world war.
Opinions about such an event?
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Feminism 5.0

Feminism 5.0 involves a new legion of tomboy females, walking down the streets wearing flamboyant but not over sexualized clothing. They will carry guns on their backs, not regular looking guns but flamboyant looking ones as well. They will be the Feminist patrol to keep women safe.
This will reduce female anxiety levels. Women will now walk the streets in comfort, and no longer afraid of males. With less anxiety, women will become more romantic, more likely to be intimate with male lesbians.

Anyway, the Feminist safety patrols would have a primary purpose of making women feel safe while going to the movies and such, free of being catcalled. The feminist patrol wouldn't actually hurt anyone or do anything illegal. They would have another purpose of protecting women from Wall Street. In one decade, Wall Street will fortunately be female dominated. Most politicians would be female as well.

Once the feminism 5.0 regime is in place, they will have eugenic policies (non-racist eugenics) of improving the aesthetics of everyone through selective breeding (only having sex with feminine men). If they refuse to do this and the overall net suffering of society is not reduced from before, there will be more diplomatic talks with the various parties involved.
When this fails to happen, there will be a 3rd group to non-violently overthrow the previous regime. Then true utopia will commence, people will just be cyborgs with custom parts easily getting laid whenever.
Also here is an example about the big tits thing I said earlier. Big tits are sexually arousing. So walking around with big tits would be the same as walking around with a giant boner in public. Once you realize this, a lot of other things about social behaviors now become more clear.
Also what I said about males only applies to most males. Being a hot male is probably almost as good as being tomboy female. But roughly 95% of males are not hot enough for this.
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Western capitalism is visibly backwards to itself

You would think that the west is behaving the way it is due to a need to secure future profits but when you see the ROI and the visibly stagnating economies and stagnating if not declining quality of life found in the west it becomes clearer that western capitalism is archaic.

that’s not to say capitalism in the west never evolved it did from small tight free markets to massive neoliberalized and socially atomized global financial centres but that evolution ended with trickle down theory and since then western economies have been declining in geoeconomic influence with India, east Asia and China taking over simply because the global south doesn’t have to come under the constant threat of invasions, sanctions and trade barriers caused by western member states. For westerners themselves as discussed before their policies aren’t good for their own interests, corporations are either stagnating in actual development or relying heavily on corporate welfare made by printed capital to make development stats go up or have simply given up on relying on the west entirely and became international institutions like what Ford and Stallion did a while what those referring to as “flyover states” and “reactionary shitholes”(I.e. France,the UK, much of Eastern Europe ) stay stuck in inflation crises with decaying infrastructure that’s designed so badly that buissnesses can’t survive or churn a profit in them only to flee to major cities or go global. They may face fascism and civil unrest, Marxist Leninism, or begin to try to rebuild geopolitical influence through free trade, infrastructure development and beating competing markets with lower prices and better products.

Oh well…
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question about Labor Vouchers

I have a friend who does art commissions for a living that hates Socialism because he claims it'd kill off his job. How would an economy using Labor Vouchers instead of money handle them? because art is highly subjective and not something that can be widdled down to SNLT like other Commodities.
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Is Belarus socialist? I found many claims claiming that Belarus socialist communist etc the most of them are fake I also found many claims claiming other economies some of them claiming it's social democratic some of them climbing it's a mixed economy I'm really confused on what type of economy is Belarus I mean I'm very sceptical that its socialist. Can you please explain what on earth is Belarus economically?
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Zemmour is no fucking joke

This motherfucker is unironically what the most rabid of radlibs thought of Trump. Ethnonationalist, neo-Nazi, and anti-communist. Worst of all are his debating skills. He isn't just devastating at debates, he does them in a way that makes you have to come to the conclusions yourself without him having to tell you what they are. He walks you 90% of the way through his fucked up beliefs and then makes you connect the final dots like it was your own viewpoint.

Add to the fact that he is as smart as Trump thinks he is and I really worry about a potential Macron/Zemmour election in France because Macron is way to passive to take on Zemmour in the debates whereas all he has to do for a Macron/Le Pen debate is give her enough rope to hang herself with.

What are leftpol's thoughts on the Nazi goblin man?
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Should the politburo/party in general have cracked down harder on the cult of personality around Stalin? I know Stalin thought it was excessive and generally disliked it but they mostly seemed to do nothing serious about it…I feel like it fucked them in the long run especially after Stalin died
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Is this the good way forward? A big tent left that unites together and reconciles some uncomfortable social differences to find common ground.

Or are the social issues of too high importance that they must be fought for and not accept anything short of desired acceptances by any means?
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Socialism with Monarchist Characteristics

>Mencius Moldbug/Curtis Yarvin just released an article arguing for the moral superiority of Xi Jinping Thought
Is neoreaction secretly based and red(china)pilled?
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Israel as a Workers' State

The modern left likes to demonize Israel as imperialist, but when you look at their history they have some serious socialist bona fides. Many of the original settlers were Labor Zionists who took part in the Kibbutzim, which were essentially self-managed collective farms, and were some of the closest places to operating communism in human history. Further, they became independent by rebelling against British imperialism, were supported by the Soviet Union in their early years, and were ruled by the Workers' Party/Labor Party as an almost one-party state until 1977. Now that Netanyahu is out, do you think there is potential for Israel to return to its left wing roots?
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I want to love Belarus

in the recent poland-belarus struggle, I am undeniably taking the belarus side because fuck poland of course, but is there any uncritical reason to support it aside from muh state owned businesses and hecking based and redpilled authoritarianism?
I get it, they are commie-larpers but hold reactionary positions on almost everything. Or is it about east good west bad stuff? I want to feel like belarus is an onjectively better place to live?
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Defcon 4 has been turned on

Because of Ukraine accusing Russia of planning an invasion and a coup as well, also saying that they're planning riots against the goverment. We need to remember that Ukraine also had plans in order to retake Crimea, which they stated they would do so (stated so in 2020), when there was rapid mobilization across both countries and intensification of combats on the Donetks and Lugansk regions because of these declarations from the Ukrainian goverment.
As you might have seen, the NATO countries and the russian bloc countries (Belarus and Russia) have had a lot more hostility towards each other, starting from the color revolution that NATO tried to pull off on Belarus (which failed miserably) and Belarus as well trying to push the EU into friendlier terms by letting a migratory crisis happen on it's borders with Poland and Lithuania, some of the most reactionary countries inside of the EU.
So, because of this, the US has raised it's alert level to Blue (Defcon 4). Of course, Defcon 4 doesn't really mean anything aside from caution, but it crearly means that the US is sensing danger from somewhere.

Meanwhile I really doubt something is going to happen in Ukraine, the US pretty much turning the alert level from "It hasn't even begun" to "You didn't listen" is somewhat worrying. What do you think about it? Do you think an actual war might emerge? Will the US intervene if Russia "invades" (after Ukraine attacks Crimea proclaiming they're defending the peninsula now)? What music would you think encapsulates more the threat of nuclear warfare over stupid shit?


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Why didn’t electricity get discovered in the copper age

Humanity was old enough in that era to know what lightning is and any block with like a fucking copper dagger or wire could’ve easily dipped their shit in sea water and accidentally cause electrolysis, the fact that it took so long for a discover staggeringly so simple to have been made feels uncanny to think about especially when one realizes societies dating as far back as the Greeks had somewhat of an understanding of what an electric charge was
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>earn $1153.64/mo in a very comfy local govt. office job
>taking out a loan for 3-year bachelors hon degree starting in september
>still living with parents
How do I move out when rent is at least $2000/mo for a decent place in my city thats also close to my job?
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Climate Change

Since the capitalist world we live in is trying to work with businesses to reduce their carbon foot print, and is failing miserably, how would a communist world tackle climate change?
If the cold war ended with the USSR winning, and almost all countries ending up with communist parties taking over, how would they deal with climate change?
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chile vs sk

So ive been researching the sk economy specifically park chung hee economics

and while theres a lot of controversy over whatever his economic policy like hci worked or not

at the same time i gotta admit looking at chile export numbers well



copper: 53.6%
grapes and other produce: 8.4%
chemicals: 5.0%
fish and seafood: 4.5%
paper and pulp: 3.3%
wine: 2.4%
lumber: 2.2%
gold: 2.1%

Integrated Circuits 15.35%
Machinery 12.81%
Vehicles and their parts 11.34%
Mineral Fuels 7.01%
Plastics 5.86%
Iron and Steel 4.23%
Instruments and Apparatus 4.16%
Organic Chemicals 3.85%
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Possibilty of a useful question-based infomation site

This is a multi-faceted question, regarding the construction of arguments or even proofs, and regarding technical organization of and presentation of information, among potential other things.

The bottom line is this:
Is it possible to make a user-friendly website that concretely debunks an entire concept?
One idea being that you can introduce and/or refute 80+% of people just by linking to an appropriate page on this website.

Consider the following existing formats of refutation and education, where I annotate perceived pros and cons:
1) thread conversations (e.g. real conversations, chat-rooms, imageboards)
A person raises a question, people reply to them and they reply back
>pro: personalized answers. the answers are likely to address the question properly
>pro: iterative. the conversation can continue to refute counter-arguments and details not clarified in the original answer/s
<con: usually redundant, waste of time. most people new to a topic or idea ask the same or similar questions. "We have this thread every week". it's tiresome and wasteful to answer the same base questions hundreds of times.
<con: impromptu self-made answers. real-time responses are usually not well-formed, which may not be well-thought out and is usually open to dumb 'gotchas'. furthermore, they are likely to be shallow.

2) "read a book" (e.g. some forums, some programmers)
People tell them to read the fucking book (or maybe a youtube video).
>pro: directs them to a well-crafted, and often well-justified through citation, resource
>pro: potential to introduce a thorough worldview instead of just a simple, shallow answer
<con: demotivating: most people aren't going to read a full book or books to counter their argument
<con: books are often a static resource, not open to updating, iteration, corrections or extension. while still relevant to today in some ways, Marx's books critique a system as it was over 150 years ago. even far more recent books like Manufacturing Consent have made updated editions in response to social changes.
<con: impersonal. books usually explain a concept rather than directly address an adversarial question.

3) Q&A sites (e.g. https://leftypedia.org/wiki/Rhetoric:FAQ , many political subreddit wiki pages)
>pro: existing repository of responses to the most common questions. this is extremely useful.
>pro: extensibility. it can update in response to criticism. it can also hyperlink to other pages, books and resources ("See more:", Further reading, citations). this way, it can reward an impatient or mildly curious reader with an answer to their question, and encourage further reading
>pro: rapid access to information. it's a repository of common questions and answers. the time-to-education ratio is excellent. there is also an index, browser search capabilities, and web search exposure.
>pro: the questions often closely mirror the frequently-reposted questions here. you could literally just link straight to an answer.
<con: shallow leveling. the format of a single information page is not suited to presenting counter-counterarguments to the given questions. there is a limit to the information presentable without losing user-friendliness/convenience.

I think the solution to the short-comings of the FAQ/Q&A format is to treat it not as an extension to a wiki, but as a stand-alone site with a more appropriate format to present the information. Picrel is a potential example (extremely impromptu, but gets a base idea across).
It aims to store arguments in the 'argument'/'counterargument' chain form. You could even insert real-life formal debates into such a site, and reach granular depth and detail without degrading the user experience for a one-question visitor. Basically a tree stucture with arguments branching off, like a thread separated out into subthreads of reply chains, but with the crap removed, replies editable, and content easy to find and reference instead of repeating the same discussion every week.

What does /leftypol/ think of such a site? Would it be useful? Would it serve as a good landing page for curious newbies?

(The arguments in the picture are just placeholders. Don't derail by discussing them, make another thread for that, or better yet, use the QTDDTOT thread)
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The Culture Industry Question

What is to be done about the cultural hegemony that now exists? Disney is the biggest perpetrator, dominating international media with this schlock. It's everywhere and it occupies a disturbing prominence in the average person's mental life. So many people you talk to will ask if you've seen the latest Marvel shit, and want to talk about its political messaging. It's clear that bourgeois ideology has a powerful grip over people through mass media. What if anything can we do to combat this problem?

What working-class culture is still being produced, if any? How can we promote that rather than the media giants, if it's possible?
How do we get people to unplug from the walled garden of social media or film/TV/twitch streaming and go touch grass?
What literature can you share (particularly with newfriends) on this subject - either critiquing how things are or dealing with what can be done or has been done in response?

Vid related. It's Chapo Trap House talking about this phenomenon. Don't make this about e-drama pls, just thought it could supplement the topic I've wanted to discuss for a while.
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Which country should I move to? As a third worlder

Assume I have good qualifications to get a stable and secure job. Take into account culture and other factors.

>United States - land of psychopaths? Might collapse soon

>China - seems good, cant speak Mandarin though
>South Korea - joseon hell, big no
>Japan - comfier than SK, xenophobia though?
>United Kingdom - no idea what its like there
>Ireland - seems based
>Cuba - nice place to have a house in but might not live there
>Australia - seems like itll get destroyed by climate change. Aussies seem rude.
>Russia - ??? might meet some nice soviet boomers.

I know leftypol is an international place so I would like to hear all your thoughts
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Is india going to go socialist

Is India going to go socialist

One the first world war caused the Russian empire to implode in itself and led to the communist revolution there

The second world war then caused china to fall to a communist revolution

Is India going to be the one that falls in the 3rd world war

And I'm asking because there are odd parallels with India and the previous 2 examples I listed

India is an un developed shithole which was in the same conditions china and russia was in

India is one of the least and worst powerful of the world powers(actually it isnt even a world power at all)

India is in a weird shitty transition state between literal feudalism and capitalism like china and russia was

Also heres a Thanksgiving picture since it's thanksgiving
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What are some interesting statutes you have in your local organization? How are these applied in practice? Is there anything you would like to change about them?

For example, my youth organization has a total ban on use of drugs and abuse of alcohol by party members. In practice, this statute is only really brought up when an individual member becomes "an issue". Some are of the opinion that the organization should not strictly regulate recreational drug use, most disagree with this. Do you have any opinions on the topic?
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Peak Labor

Why is nobody talking about the fact that the labor pool is about to shrink? The workforce will not only shrink but more and more people will have to work in Eldercare this means that their will be less and less people to build, maintain, and operate our infrastructure. Modern Global Civilization is facing a peak labor situation that may become a terminal crisis.
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Has anyone on here ever had success in "converting" a former right-winger to socialism?

If so, how did you convince this person?

What issues were at stake?

And most importantly, when you won this person over did you have to "water down" your leftism in order to make socialism more palatable to them?
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News: Week 22-28

Left-wing candidate tops the polls ahead of presidential election in Honduras
HONDURAN voters could elect a socialist president at the weekend, with left-wing candidate Xiomara Castro leading in the polls. The latest survey by TResearch put the Libre party candidate ahead on 43 per cent, with closest rival Nasry Juan Asfura Zablah trailing her on 28 per cent. Victory for Ms Castro would bring an end to the National Party and Liberal Party’s domination of Honduran politics, which has lasted for more than a century.

‘I Come From the Quarries,’ Peru’s President Castillo Says
On Saturday, Peru's President Pedro Castillo regretted the skirmishes promoted by opposition lawmakers, who are interested in "destabilizing his government." On Thursday, the opposition benches from the Popular Force (FP), Popular Renovation (RP), and Move Forward (AP) parties presented a vacancy motion to be analyzed by the Parliament. "Just when today we have worked hard to recover gas for all Peruvians, certain small groups behind closed doors come to ask and want to destabilize the Government," President Castillo said.

CPI (Maoist) Squad Blow Up Newly Constructed Police Station In Gumla District
The newly constructed police station building of Kurumgarh in Jharkhand’s Gumla district has been partially damaged when a squad of CPI (Maoist) cadres tried to blow it up, a police officer said on Friday. About 35 per cent of the building, where 80 per cent of work had been done, was damaged in the attack that took place on Thursday night, the officer said.

General Council of CITU: Get Ready for the Two Days Countrywide General Strike!
THE first meeting of CITU general council concluded with a clarion call to the working class of India to get ready for the two days’ country wide general strike called by the joint platform of trade unions from the national convention held in the national capital Delhi on November 11, 2021. The national convention decided that the general strike will be held during the budget session of parliament. The exact dates will be announced soon.

Russian Communist Lawmaker Stripped of Immunity in Elk Poaching Probe
Russian lawmakers have voted to strip their veteran opposition colleague of immunity as he faces charges of illegally killing an elk, the lower house of parliament, the State Duma, said Thursday. Communist Party deputy Valery Rashkin was detained in late October with fragments of an elk carcass and blood-stained knives in the trunk of his car.

Vicious 'Neo Nazi' attack on Kiev 'gay bar' (VIDEO)
A Kiev bar, frequented by members of LGBT community, has been attacked by a group of masked assailants, believed to be neo-Nazis, who smashed the establishment’s windows and destroyed outdoor seating. The HvLv bar, located in the central part of Ukraine’s capital, was targeted late on Friday. The venue was set upon by around 20 masked men, some of whom were armed with telescopic batons and pepper spray.

Syria: People in Idlib rue adoption of plummeting Turkish lira
However, since last year the lira has continued to weaken against the dollar, falling sharply over the past month - to more than 13 lira to the US currency at one point earlier this week. The lira's extreme weakness has negatively impacted the economy in northern Syria, playing havoc with the stability of wages and raising the price of goods and services.

Campaign launched to delist Kurdistan Workers’ Party as a terrorist organisation
AMAJOR drive is being launched on Saturday to delist the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) as a terrorist organisation, to mark the 43rd anniversary of its founding. Such a move is “an essential step in bringing peace and democracy to Turkey and the Middle East,” a PKK official told the Morning Star today.

Iran riot police arrests scores in Isfahan water protests
Iran's riot police were deployed in force in the city of Isfahan on Saturday, a day after dozens were arrested during protests over the drying up of a river. Security forces fired tear gas on Friday at demonstrators, who threw stones, during a protest in the dry bed of the Zayadneh Rood river that crosses the city, Fars and ISNA news agencies said. "We have arrested 67 of the main actors and agitators behind the troubles," police General Hassan Karami said on Saturday. He said between 2,000 and 3,000 "rioters" took part in the protest.

Guardian accused of sitting on bombshell story about Assange
The Guardian newspaper reportedly knew about alleged spying on Julian Assange by a CIA-connected security firm long before it became public knowledge – and pumped the company for information instead of reporting the espionage. … One particular exchange happened between the firm and Guardian correspondent Stephanie Kirchgaessner, who co-authored a September 2018 story claiming Russian and Ecuadorian officials had been planning an operation to “smuggle” Assange to Russia.

Keir Starmer: I haven't spoken to Jeremy Corbyn in over a year
But he told the BBC's Political Thinking podcast it "may be the case" that the situation remains unresolved by the next general election, meaning Mr Corbyn could not stand as a Labour candidate. Mr Corbyn was originally suspended from Labour in October last year after he suggested the scale of anti-Semitism in the party had been "dramatically overstated" by his opponents.

Migrant rights group accuses Sir Keir of mirroring Patel's ‘dehumanising language’ on refugee crossings
CAMPAIGNERS have accused Sir Keir Starmer of mirroring Home Secretary Priti Patel’s “dehumanising” language on refugee boat crossings. Members of campaign group Another Europe is Possible have written to the Labour leader expressing “deep disappointment” over comments he made to the BBC last week.

Sudanese army reinstates prime minister, but left warns against new power-sharing deal
Sudan’s military chiefs agreed today to reinstate ousted Prime Minister Abdalla Hamdok — but the Communist Party warned that civilian leaders should not be hoodwinked into a new alliance with the army that recently overthrew them.

Covid: South Africa 'punished' for detecting new Omicron variant
The foreign ministry made the statement as countries around the world restricted travel from southern Africa as details of the spread emerged. Early evidence suggests Omicron has a higher re-infection risk. The World Health Organization (WHO) said on Friday that the new variant was "of concern".
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/wfg/ - western finances general

Im making this thread because evidently some people (non-americans) don't know what a "credit score" is.
Basically insurance companies and banks give everyone a "credit score" which is based on how good they are at paying their bills, debts, fees, etc on time. People who dont pay their debts have a lower credit score and are thus charged more for mortgages, car insurance, higher interest rates for loans etc because they are a liability.
This is a public service announcement.
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Is it possible for any mass leftist movement to avoid collapsing on its self like Occupy Wall Street did?

How do you avoid having your movement be taken over by idpol wreckers and porky infiltration?
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Are LGBT people racist?

Are LGBT people more likely to be racist as immigrants and non white/first world countries are more likely to be homophobic?
I have noticed this in the real world.
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Lack of healthcare

Why does burgerland refuse to provide even the most basic of amenities, such as universal healthcare to it's citizens? What kind of sociopathic and greedy society would make healthcare a for profit industry and let a sick person die just because they couldn't pay?

Most first world countries do this and even a few developing ones like Mexico. This wouldn't even require socialism, it's literally just reveling in cruelty against the sick and poor.
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Why did China ban crypto?

Why did China ban crypto? What is the Marxist reasoning behind it? Funds can escape from the country? The US government is the creator of Bitcoin? They want their own cryptocurrency? What was the reasoning behind the ban?
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Is evreyone chassing after ghoasts?

Most leftists I have meat irl spend their time fighting irrelevant fascist orgs that are even smaller then most left orgs.
Most rights spend most of their time fighting 0.3% of the population (trans people) that by in large just want to be left alone.
The ruling class doesn't spend any effort trying to justify their society but instead spend trillions of dollars fighting a vague "terror threat" that mostly didn't really exist. They constantly screech about "muh assad" or "muh lukashenko" or other irreverent third world leaders, who's nations are economically, geopolitically, and demographically irrelevant.
I used to think that the problem of "fighting ghoasts" was limited to radlibs screeching about rando internet racists who have no money and no power, but after reading material by both the far-right and by neolibs I realize that everyone is affected by this problem. More then 90% of political energy is used in fighting vague enemies that are by in large irreverent, and can't be truly defeated. Almost no one spends time fighting those who have real power over society, or the realistic ability to seize power.
Why is everyone Chasing after Ghosts.
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Whats up with the trend of muh feminist witchcraft? Why are feminists adopting the witch as a symbol? And also is there any materialist basis for magic/magick? How does late capitalism lead to this?
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what are your favourite former socialist state /or groups ect
<hello I'm here to ask the important question what is your favourite socialist fomre state or group) these can be marxist-leninist Nations of the Eastern Bloc or or anarchist groups basically it's whatever you like. >>You can also explain why you like these Nations organizations etc
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Please dump all your guerilla warfare/ resistance/weapon manuals/psyop tactics PDFs you have. Im finally making a collection. If therers already a collection somewhere on the site point me to it. It can be CIA stay behind shit, homemade weapons shiut, vietnam shit,guerilla warfare from brazil whatever is practically useful and can be printed and disseminated among people in a revolutionary situation. things that give you some rudimentary education
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Alexander Lukashenko

Given how Belarus has been in the news lately, this seems like a good time to make a thread on this:
Is Alexander Lukashenko a fascist, or the last true heir to the Soviet Union?
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Late stage Capitalism

It's been a while since we last had this thread.

Am I the only one wondering how bad it can get? It really feels like Capitalism is turning into a parody of itself.
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China's bullying of tiny Bhutan

Xi tells ASEAN summit: “China will never seek hegemony, much less bully smaller countries.” In reality, Xi has not spared even tiny Bhutan from Chinese bullying and territorial revisionism, illustrating the widening gap between his statements and actions.


Who will stop China?
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Analysis of 21st Century history/politics

There are smart anons here
I know there are definitely smart as fucking fuck anons here
Even if I shit on yall quite frequently there are definitely posters worth reading
That being said, I’ve been having an interesting discussion about the Bush Era in USApol and it got me thinking that this Century has gone on long enough that we can start analyzing its history and the major events, especially since the major wars that defined this century up until this very year have finally ended (with a general US defeat no less)

I want to read the leftypol summation/analysis of 21st Century history, where we are likely going, and the odds of the socialist movement considering the events of the past 21 years
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Redpill me on Mongolia

So….Mongolia wasn't in the USSR but had its own revolution?

Looking for info and sources.

Also, what sort of role/side did they take during the Sino-Soviet split?

And how has Mongolia fared since the collapse of Communism?

Art, music, anything out of socialist Mongolia desired, as well as any books or academic reports etc.
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uneven and combined development

Is it bullshit?
Can a post-colonial Lagos effectively skip certain stages of development and jump straight to socialism, just as it jumped straight to capitalism though colonization and imperialism?
Is it truly a socialized means of production necessary for the capitalist mode of production when you have trains running along side donkey carts and large swaths of the population living in squalor, or is it an entirely different stage of social development?
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Why does no one talk about the quite conservative aspect of China through the usage of the Social Credit System? The Soviet Union and other socialist countries had the same type of strict system. These places wanted stable productive countries and that involved controlling and being strict on the more immoral and "degenerate" behaviors or even just small crimes like jaywalking and littering. The modern left at least in the US seems to be "Egoist" and against the idea of morals yet none of the countries they praise were anything close to this.
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I got into an argument with my mom about christmas saying it's nothing more than a time of the year when workers are more exploited, I told her that post revolution old religious practices would be abolished anyhow. She's not an all out fascist but she says things like 'I'm not racist but' and that she's for gay rights but 'unsure if they should adopt'. I haven't spoke to her in a month but I saw there's a new Christmas commercial that defends LGBT rights and depicts Santa as gay.

In theory, is it reasonable to celebrate something like Christmas if it can be used to advance progressive and leftist ideals rather than give it up altogether? If so, might it be better if I saw my mom over Christmas and just used the time to educate her about dialectical materialism? Using this commercial, which is something of a cultural milestone, as a common ground.
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Why are the bourgeoisie so evil? Why do they abuse children and rape people so much? Is it because they have no incentive to treat others as their equal since they already have everything they could ever want?
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City slicker

I'm an ethnic city slicker who doesn't know how to change a tire, would rather go on a boozy guided tour of an art museum than a football game. However my only job offer may in rural south dakota. Do i have to worry about racism and ultracold winters? Savage country people?

What's everyone's take on this?
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Homosexuality and the Left

Every time I try to make a thread about this it gets deleted, and I can understand why mods think it's trolling/spam. But I want to have a serious discussion: what role, if any, does homosexuality have in a socialist society? It seems like almost every historical socialist leader opposed it and saw it as bourgeois decadence. So does acceptance and advocating for homosexuals have any place in the workers' movement, or is it radlib revisionism? Pardon the /pol/bait image, but it's the only one I could find that put relevant quotes by socialist leaders in one place.
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The Decay of Morality

What do you guys honestly think about the moral decay in society right now? For example:
>normalisation of pedophilia
>decriminalisation of robbery
>internet mental illness
>social media brainwashing
I hate the corporate powers that push this shit and the evil scum that call themselves leftists who push that stuff. But I wanted to ask all of you what you think about it.
Pic related is memes but the point I am trying to make is that we are in a war of the sane vs the insane and their billionaire and government handlers.
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What's the far-right's biggest weakness? What would it take to exploit it? What could we hope to achieve by expoiting it? How could it be done? What could be done right now to start working on it?
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It’s the autumn of 2025 AD. The technoindustrial system fell apart a year ago, but you and your friends are doing alright. Your garden has flourished this past summer and in your cabin you have a good supply of dried vegetables, dried beans and other foodstuffs to get you through the coming winter. Just now you’re harvesting your potatoes. With your spades, you and your friends uproot one potato after another and pick the plump tubers out of the soil.

Suddenly the friend at your elbow nudges you and you look up. Uh-oh. A gang of mean-looking men is coming up your trail. They have guns. They look like trouble, but you stand firm. The leader of the gang walks up to you and says,

“Nice looking potatoes you got there.”

“Yeah,” you reply. “They’re nice-looking potatoes.”

“We’re going to take them” says the gang leader.

“The hell you are!” you answer. “We spent a long summer of hard work growing those potatoes…”

The gang leader points his rifle at your face and says, “—— you, punk.” To his men he adds, “Dick, Ziggy, check the cabin and see what kind of food they got. We might just move in and spend the winter here. Mick, grab that bitch over there before she gets away. She got a nice ass. We’ll all screw her It’s the autumn of 2025 AD. The technoindustrial system fell apart a year ago, but you and your friends are doing alright. Your garden has flourished this past summer and in your cabin you have a good supply of dried vegetables, dried beans and other foodstuffs to get you through the coming winter. Just now you’re harvesting your potatoes. With your spades, you and your friends uproot one potato after another and pick the plump tubers out of the soil.

Suddenly the friend at your elbow nudges you and you look up. Uh-oh. A gang of mean-looking men is coming up your trail. They have guns. They look like trouble, but you stand firm. The leader of the gang walks up to you and says,

“Nice looking potatoes you got there.”

“Yeah,” you reply. “They’re nice-looking potatoes.”

“We’re going to take them” says the gang leader.

“The hell you are!” you answer. “We spent a long summer of hard work growing those potatoes…”

The gang leader points his rifle at your face and says, “—— you, punk.” To his men he adds, “Dick, Ziggy, check the cabin and see what kind of food they got. We might just move in and spend the winter here. Mick, grab that bitch over there before she gets away. She got a nice ass. We’ll all screw her tonight.”

You get angry and start shouting, “You bastard! You can’t…”

The rifle goes BANG. You’re dead.tonight.”

You get angry and start shouting, “You bastard! You can’t…”

The rifle goes BANG. You’re dead.
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COVID-19 must be eradicated to stop dangerous new variants
>The emergence of the Omicron strain of COVID-19 is a devastating exposure of the herd immunity policy implemented by capitalist governments, which oppose lockdowns and other critical public health measures necessary to stop the spread of the disease.

An extremely worrying development, but one that was quite rightly always a predictable outcome if there was not a fully scientific response to the pandemic .

The WSWS has been singularly vindicated at every stage of this developing crisis. Its analysis and prescriptions absolutely 'spot on'.

By the laws of necessity, this analysis along with the revolutionary prescription of transforming the property relations of all society 'must' now find its rightful place as the leadership of the world working class .

We must make it so …
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(Infinite) Virtual Goods

If capitalists can literally create infinite value from absolutely nothing (virtual goods like gacha shit, lootboxes, NFT's memecoins etc) does that mean that the marxist view of the failing rate of profit is false/invalid? You can make any kind of virtual good that costs 0 to produce and retards will surely pay big money for a couple of numbers in a screen or they favorite waifu in a shitty game, isn't that actually the highest stage of capitalism? Create value from nothing.
I'm seriously worried about the future of the socialist movement if shit like this keeps happening
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Why have socialist revolutions mostly succeeded in societies in the intermediate phase between feudalism and industrial capitalism, and never in an advanced capitalist society (e.g. the German Revolution)? What does this mean going forward? I have some thoughts, but I'd rather read what /leftypol/ has to say.
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Modern Science and Dialectical Materialism

Are Quantum Mechanics, Einsteins Theory of Relativity and even Darwins Theory of Evolution at odds with Dialectical Materialism? If yes, does it even matter? Can't Historical Materialism be correct while Dialectical Materialism is (partially) wrong? I have seen again and again how Marxists reject modern scientific theories because they don't line up 1:1 with something Marx wrote 150 years ago about Materialism and this just seems silly to me. In my opinion it would be more productive to pursue a new unified materialist theory that draws from our modern understanding of nature. Paul Cockshott is the only Marxist I know of, who is actively trying to accomplish this, although I don't agree with all of his positions on materialism.
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October Revolution Day Thread

Tomorrow, the 7th of November is the 104th anniversary of the Great October Socialist Revolution, the greatest event in human history. The first time the working class successfully shattered the chains of capital that had drenched the world in blood, the triumph of the proletariat by Marxist-Leninist organisation. The triumph of the Russian workers, but it represented a victory for the entire world proletariat. And at the current time of worldwide lockdowns and fascism, all out assault on the proletariat by the bourgeoisie, particularly the KPRF in Russia, another October is needed more than ever.

Пролетарии всех стран, соединяйтесь!
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Where do drugs come into play with leftist politics?

Just curious on what your guys opinions are on drug use and how drug use has been viewed in leftist circles in the modern day and historically. if i am not mistake wouldn't of drug addicts been put against a wall and shot during most leftist movements of the past?
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Based off international stats on diasporas in Europe the americas Asia and Oceania, Brazil tends to be a very popular place to immigrate to internationally, what makes Brazil such an easy place for people of all backgrounds and economic status to take settlement in?
>pic rel is sao paulo
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This is such a black hour, everything feels horrible and hopeless.
I want to give up but I know that won't make me feel better.
What is there left for any of us in this world?
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ive seen threads on confucius

ive seen threads on confucianism in general

ive seen threads about chinese culture

but ive never seen threads on lord shang. So im creating this and asking leftypol what is your opinion on legalism and lord shang
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Marxist Analysis of Incels

What would marx have thought about incels if it had been a issue in his time?

What is the marxist analysis of why so many incels exist today and the number is growing?
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Which level are you on?

1. Real Communism has never been tried
2. Only the Paris Commune was real Communism
3. The party was communist until the Bolsheviks kicked out the Mensheviks
4. The USSR was never communist.
5. The USSR was communist until 1921 Kronstadt rebellion and Makhnovia
6. The USSR was communist until 1924 when Lenin died
7. The USSR was communist until 1929 when Trotsky was exiled
8. The USSR was communist until 1953 when Stalin died
9. The USSR was communist until 1956 when Khrushchev did his speech
10. The USSR was communist until 1956 when they put tanks in Hungary
11. The USSR was communist until the Sino-Soviet split
12. The USSR was communist until Brezhnev
13. The USSR was communist until Gorbachev
14. The USSR was communist until Chernobyl
15. The USSR was communist until Pizza Hut
16. The USSR was communist until 1991
17. The Russian Federation was secretly communist until 1996
18. The Russian Federation is still communist and Putin is deep KGB
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Is the proletariat really the revolutionary class?

I finished reading Marx's 18th brumarie a couple of weeks ago and it got me thinking, is it possible that Marx was wrong on who the revolutionary class is?
I mean, studying history shows tbat it was not the exploited classes the ones who engaged in revolution. The people who gained status as agricultural societies began were the strongest tribesmen, colonialism was not
absolished by the colonized natives, when slavery was abolished it wasn't the slaves the ones who abolished it, feudalism was abolished by the bourgeoisie, not the serfs.

I know Marx theorized the term "lumpenproletariat", however in present times labour has become some precarious the distinction between the proletariat and the lumpenproletariat has become rather diluted.

Is it possible then that there is another revolutionary class?
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>won 23% of the total vote for the constituent assembly
>decide to dissolve the constituent assembly in the name of all the workers and peasants

uhhh bros… is this the power of proletarian democracy?
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What do you guys think about the 10,000 hour rule? Reddit says it's a myth but they just don't understand it. I think it could be very useful for the Communist movement.
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What's happening in US left

Anyone notice that a lot of "leftists" these days are just 4channed brained weebs who used to be nazi-adjacent before apparently turning to the left? Something changed around 2016/17. Fucks like Agent Kochinski belongs to this generation.
These ain't just typical old-school liberals. They are also secretly smuggling right wing talking points to the left to the point now you can be a racist imperialist while claiming to be a leftist in US. You can literally say disturbing right wing bullshit in leftist language and get away with it in the states.
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Does Historical Materialism require a belief that nothing exists beyond matter and energy?
From all my reading on Historical Materialism the only assessment seems to be that if things exist beyond the material they do not effect the material often enough to be considered in any analysis
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What collapses the wave function?

And how to mitigate falling into the trap of mysticism or dualism when confronted with the unsolved mysteries of quantum mechanics? Or are quantum mechanics actually showing us that materialism has been debunked?
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Abu Ghraib

Why did they do it bros?
From what I understand, this prison was obtained with prisoners already in it when they toppled Saddam's government.
Were they already considered enemies to the CIA?

Why did none of the military men and women show any remorse for what they did?
>In 2012, following her release, Lynndie England stated that she did not regret her actions. "Their (Iraqis') lives are better. They got the better end of the deal," she said. "They weren't innocent. They're trying to kill us, and you want me to apologize to them? It's like saying sorry to the enemy."
>She was paroled on March 1, 2007, after serving 521 days, less than seventeen months. She remained on parole through September 2008 until her three-year sentence was complete, whereupon she was discharged.

>inb4 burgerpol
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There was an attempted assassination attempt on the Iraqi PM with drones. Who do you think did it and why? And let's all take a moment to appreciate how easily accessible and useful drones can be. pretty cool.

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Canada general /cag/

because I need a place to whine endlessly about alberta being fucking dogshit beyond downton calgary.
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Degree and employment

I am curios what jobs and degrees others hold here. Let's share it.
Age? Politics? What's your degree? Are you working in the system or are you not? What's your job and salary?


>Bachelors degree in Computer Science
>Software Developer
>$98000+bonus a year
>Politics: Flag
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Libertarianism discussion

what do you guys think libertarianism stands for and why do you think libertarianism is fascism?
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The Fourth Political Ideology

I think it's shameful a russian conservative has a stronger critique of liberalism than any present-day Marxist does. Regardless of how you feel about Dugin, he is still a force that will have to be reckoned with. If you've read his book, care to share your thoughts?
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The lack of Beauty in the modern Communist movements of the 21st century will lead to it’s downfall. Even Stalin himself was a man of Beauty making it a priority in the USSR. Focusing his attention on architecture, painting, film, sculpture, mosaics. Aesthetics and Beauty was always apart of the Communist movements. The people who say the proletariat doesn’t care about Beauty they only care about material conditions are dead wrong. Hang out with the proletariat sometime. Beauty is of utmost importance in their lives. The happiest parts of their lives are the times they get to sit down and enjoy music or the few days a year they get to travel and see beautiful mountains or architecture. It’s why the proletariat lives and it’s why the Communists of the past valued it so highly.
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Porkoids after the revolution

What should happen to porky after the revolution? will porkoids get to vote or have input? Will they come back to work as regular workers? Will they be imprisoned or shot?

What will happen to porkies like Musk, Gates, Bezos, etc.? after the revolution?
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Thought experiment:

This is something ive been thinking about for a while.
Could "statist" communists create a constitution and state that would appease anarchists ? State sanctioned anarchy? If you had to draft up such a constitution, what would it look like?
Just for fun.

please no sectarian shitflinging like muh sewage and muh fascism
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Are you allowed to leave DPRK if you immigrate there?

Where I live I just work crappy minimum wage jobs and have no real connections to anyone that loves me.

I was wondering if you can leave DPRK after immigrating there as I may try to immigrate to DPRK but I would like to be able to leave every couple of years to see what's happening in the world and decide if I want to stay in DPRK.
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The final answer to the global immigrant question

There should be absolutely 0 restrictions on immigration worldwide, cities are getting my larger and citizens or rualites need jobs to pay for their new standards of living. Immigration should be treated the same way as outsourcing, a natural phenomenon of the global supply chain under an increasing industrializing world that should be normalized and worked with rather than fought against with artificial barriers
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Why did the culture revolution fail to remove capitalist and reactionary elements from the party and society?
Why was capitalism restored? What would you do differently
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What’s wrong with UBI? If everyone including all homeless people got 40k (or even more) in income each year because of Automation why we would need Communism? This system would be preferable to Communism because I wouldn’t have to work at all. Least amount of working is more important to me than anything. The leisure to do what I please.
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Bullying fat people is NOT OKAY

There is nothing wrong with fat bodies. To hate a fat body is to adopt a fundamentally liberal world: this person is fat because of moral failings, the white person is superior to the black, this person is fat because of his inability to control their own desire.
While in reality this isn't an individual problem a social one: people are fat because of Western empire and the spoils of imperial conquest. The maintenance of the capitalist system.
If you make fun of fat people you're doing 1) an imperialism 2) a racism and you need to recognize what you're saying. It's the same type of thing when people repeat stuff about Holodomor without realizing their spreading Nazi propaganda.
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ISIS were the good guys. Hear this out

Remember when soldiers from the Islamic Caliphate decided to lay their hands on the precious temple of Ba'al and the other ancient Satanic "gods" of Canaan, Assyria and Babylon and tore it to pieces? Do you remember how shortly after the Islamic State began to tear down all those temples of ancient demonic deities the whole world immediately united against them in the greatest satanic ritual of blood sacrifice in the history of mankind where every country in the world ( including great powers that were "enemies" but had to ally like the US and Russia) bombed until they could not all the barracks of the Islamic State until not a single one was left, leaving hundreds of thousands of dead in its wake, some even innocent?

Do you also remember how shortly after destroying those Satanic temples, several ISIS soldiers also began to die from a very powerful epidemic of visceral Leshmaniasis, a highly infectious disease that causes your organs to decompose and is 100% lethal?
Al demands blood and that blood that comes out every time a young emo cuts his veins due to depression, satisfies Ba'al. The prophets of Ba'al were cut in his name), perversion, degeneration and Ba'al along with the other ancient Mesopotamian demonic deities, in addition to Aztec, Egyptian, Yoruba, etc. demons is directly praised by the elites of all the countries of the world where altars and statues are dedicated to him and innocent souls are sacrificed in his name. That is why it burned them so much that the Caliphate destroyed the ancestral satanic temples of this and other demons and began the greatest diabolical campaign of extermination in the history of humanity where the last truly Divine force on the planet was destroyed. al were cut in his name), perversion, degeneration and Ba'al along with the other ancient
Mesopotamian demonic deities, in addition to Aztec, Egyptian, Yoruba, etc. demons is directly praised by the elites of all the countries of the world where he They dedicate altars, statues and sacrifice innocent souls in his name.

That is why it burned them so much that the Caliphate destroyed the ancestral satanic temples of this and other demons and began the greatest diabolical campaign of extermination in the history of humanity where the last truly Divine force on the planet was destroyed. al were cut in his name), perversion, degeneration and Ba'al along with the other ancient Mesopotamian demonic deities, in addition to Aztec, Egyptian, Yoruba, etc. demons is directly praised by the elites of all the countries of the world where he They dedicate altars, statues and sacrifice innocent souls in his name. That is why it burned them so much that the Caliphate destroyed the ancestral satanic temples of this and other demons and began the greatest diabolical campaign of extermination in the history of humanity where the last truly Divine force on the planet was destroyed. statues and sacrifice innocent souls in his name. That is why it burned them so much that the Caliphate destroyed the ancestral satanic temples of this and other demons and began the greatest diabolical campaign of extermination in the history of humanity where the last truly Divine force on the planet was destroyed. statues and sacrifice innocent souls in his name.

That is why it burned them so much that the Caliphate destroyed the ancestral satanic temples of this and other demons and began the greatest diabolical campaign of extermination in the history of humanity where the last truly Divine force on the planet was destroyed.
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Quick question

Europe is technically the most geographically privileged region on the planet and has access to trillions of natural resources and trillions worth of fertile land to develop, wtf is the point in travelling halfway across the fucking planet to go beg Africans to mine your shit fueling geopolitical crises instead of doing it yourself when it would be far more efficient to just mine on your own states borders?
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Libertarian socialism vs authoritarian socialism

Why is this board so against "libertarian socialism" ? Why is there a fetishization of authority here ? Can't you people think for yourselves without a party apparatus enforcing your actions ?
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What structures of the Soviet Government were loyal and which were traitors?

As we know, the dissolution of the USSR was a political failure, not an economic one (not that the gorby reforms didn't have effects, but it certainly wasn't the death blow), where to assign blame? Typically we immediately think Yeltsin and Gorby, this is obviously true, without Gorby opening the door, Yeltsin and his gaggle of gangster-pedophiles couldn't have so insidiously wormed through the state. But I want this thread to go a bit deeper, I'm curious what parts of the Soviet state were the most complicit in its destruction despite the will of the referendum.

I admittedly don't know too much about the subject, but I can start with groups that I think should be evaluated. The KGB for instance produced Putin, Yeltsin's direct heir. I have also heard claims that the Red Army should have shot all the members of the KGB for scheming domestically and undermining the Supreme Soviet, in a similar fashion to the CIA acting basically as its own entity and without oversight.

Obviously within the Communist Party there were wreckers, particularly after Gorby lifted the requirement of being a worker or a peasant's child. This is the most obvious place to blame.

Finally was the army itself to blame? I seem to remember most of the generals siding with Yeltsin and bombing parliament into submission in 1993. Once again, I don't really know the history as well as I should, so I'd appreciate other anon's corrections.
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Image Thread

Image Thread for HQ socialist Art or Pictures of figures/ movements. Iconic photos are all highly appreciated. I'd prefer anarchist images because Marxist stuff is generally easier to find. Colorized shit is really good too.
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North Korean sentenced to death after students caught watching Squid Game

Uhh what the hell is going in North Korea?


>North Korea has sentenced to death a man who smuggled and sold copies of the Netflix series “Squid Game” after authorities caught seven high school students watching the Korean-language global hit show, sources in the country told RFA.

>The smuggler is said to have brought a copy of Squid Game into North Korea back from China and sold USB flash drives containing the series. Sources said his sentence would be carried out by firing squad.

>A student who bought a drive received a life sentence, while six others who watched the show have been sentenced to five years hard labor, and teachers and school administrators have been fired and face banishment to work in remote mines or themselves, the sources said.

>RFA reported last week that copies of the violent drama had arrived in the reclusive country despite the best efforts of authorities to keep out foreign media. They began spreading among the people on flash drives and SD cards.

>Sources in that report said that the show’s dystopian world – in which marginalized people are pitted against one another in traditional children's games for huge cash prizes and losing players are put to death – resonates with North Koreans in risky occupations and insecure positions.
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Define socialism/communism

What Leftcoms say:
>socialism is when no commodities (a state of affairs)
What leftoids say:
>dengoids think capitalism is socialism but it's actually stateless, classless, moneyless
What Marx says:
>it is only possible to achieve real liberation in the real world and by employing real means, that slavery cannot be abolished without the steam-engine and the mule and spinning-jenny, serfdom cannot be abolished without improved agriculture, and that, in general, people cannot be liberated as long as they are unable to obtain food and drink, housing and clothing in adequate quality and quantity. “Liberation” is an historical and not a mental act, and it is brought about by historical conditions, the development of industry, commerce, agriculture, the conditions of intercourse

>Development of the Productive Forces as a Material Premise of Communism

>the contradiction of an existing world of wealth and culture, both of which conditions presuppose a great increase in productive power, a high degree of its development

>only with this universal development of productive forces is a universal intercourse between men established

>communism is only possible as the act of the dominant peoples “all at once” and simultaneously, which presupposes the universal development of productive forces

>Communism is for us not a state of affairs which is to be established, an ideal to which reality have to adjust itself. We call communism the real movement which abolishes the present state of things. The conditions of this movement result from the premises now in existence

Capitalism in the process of its own development and "abolition" (more accurately sublation or transcendence) is communism. Marx was the first Dengist, Stalin was a Dengist, and China is communist
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How China combined authoritarianism with capitalism to create a new communism

After the 1989 fall of communism in the Soviet bloc, five self-declared communist states remain today: China, Cuba, Laos, North Korea and Vietnam. Belarus and Venezuela can also be added to the mix as they fulfil the criteria of a communist state – even though they do not officially invoke the ideology. So, at present, the number stands at seven. The question is, now that capitalism is the engine of China’s economy, what is communism today? And if the number of communist states is poised to grow in the near future, as some predict, what does this prospect mean for democracy?

My interest in communism goes beyond my work as a historian – it’s personal. I was born and raised in communist Poland in the 1970s and 1980s. It was a grey country where people seemed to have lost all hope. All essentials, including shoes and coffee, were rationed. But rationing cards did not mean you would get what you wanted, or even needed. Queuing for hours (sometimes even days) to buy anything that had just been delivered to a shop was a regular occurrence.

I have no doubt that my upbringing shaped my life and inspired my career. My research has examined modern central and eastern Europe, nationalism and the politics of language – particularly in the region’s totalitarian and authoritarian regimes during the past two centuries.

During my youth in the 1980s, bartering became more common, while scarce goods could only be bought with US dollars. You could exchange a summer dress two sizes too large for a T-bone steak (kotlet), or a record player that you did not need for a large can of baby formula. Only vinegar seemed to be in constant supply on the near-empty shop shelves – perhaps accounting for the sour faces and almost permanent lack of smiles. Western scholars came up with an apt term to describe this existence. They called it the “economy of scarcity” – the impact of central planning on production and the population.

And it wasn’t just a lack of food. Freedom was scarce, too. Poland, like all Soviet bloc countries, was kept under a “double lock” – meaning it was even difficult to travel to another socialist country, be it neighbouring Czechoslovakia or East Germany. You needed to apply for a particular kind of passport to travel to the “people’s democracies” (that is, Soviet bloc countries) in Europe. And after coming back home from your travels, this precious document had to be returned to a local militia headquarters (the police was then known by this militarised sobriquet).

If you wanted to visit a European capitalist country, like West Germany, you needed a another kind of passport. But only a single member of any family would be allowed to go to the “rotten capitalist west” (as it was often referred to). So the rest of your family remained as the state’s hostages to ensure you wouldn’t dare to defect. I never once saw the passport that permitted travel to all the countries of the world, which allowed the lucky few to travel to the US or Australia.

To me, and many others, my home country felt like one big prison. Stringent censorship of publications, films and television aimed to convince us that life in Poland and the Soviet bloc was much better than in New York or Paris. But few believed the propaganda. People clandestinely listened to Radio Free Europe and Voice of America (despite the state attempting to jam them). And during the 1980s, it became easier to buy banned books in the form of samizdat (uncensored, underground publications).

Among the youth, the dream was to escape this prison and enjoy a “normal life” in a “normal country”. In a place with no rationing cards and well-stocked supermarkets, where working a single job you would be able to afford a decent standard of living, an apartment and summer holidays in the Canaries. The slang Polish name for this Spanish archipelago, “Kanary”, became colloquial shorthand for the unattainable.

Pie in the sky, our parents warned us. Their advice was to be quiet, to do what we were told by teachers or overseers – and to never say what we thought. After all, refusing to toe the Communist Party’s line, not praising Poland’s socialism – let alone opposing the system – might cost you a coveted place at a university, the loss of an apartment, or land you in prison. In the 1950s, at the height of Stalinism, people were even executed for such ideological misdemeanours.

But, unexpectedly, the cold war between the western democracies and the communist Soviet bloc came to an end in 1989, followed, two years later, by the collapse of the Soviet Union itself. This communist superpower simply and peacefully (at least in Europe) vanished into thin air, causing communism as a political and economic system to disappear from much of the world.

We were free. The last General Secretary of the Soviet Union Mikhail Gorbachev was the good fairy, who made our heartfelt dream come true. The Soviet leader decided that starving his own people in order to keep up with the west in the arms race was no way forward. The subsequent systemic transition, in the span of a decade and a half, enabled former Soviet bloc states, from Poland and Hungary to Romania and Bulgaria, to accede to NATO and the European Union.

With my newfound freedom, I continued my education in South Africa and the Czech Republic. I researched in Italy, the US and Japan, before finding university positions in Ireland and Scotland.

But in the case of the 15 countries that emerged from the defunct Soviet Union, only the Baltic republics of Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania became truly western and democratic. Most, Russia included, became autocracies – even if they stuck to the pretence of parliamentary elections.

Georgia, Moldova and especially Ukraine are tantalisingly close to becoming genuine democracies with the prospect of EU and NATO membership. Yet, Turkmenistan is almost as oppressive as North Korea, while Azerbaijan and Uzbekistan are seen as textbook examples of repressive and kleptokratic dictatorships.

But at present, not a single post-communist or post-Soviet state declares itself to be communist.

China leads the autocracies
With the economic and political demise of Soviet-style communism, most of the communist regimes supported by the Soviet Union across the world, like Ethiopia, Afghanistan and South Yemen also collapsed. Communist Cuba is a lone exception to this trend. The Caribbean island has been a permanent thorn in the side of the US since 1961.

Present-day communism, then, is led by China – the world’s second largest economy. Beijing has been proudly communist since 1949 and is now taking on the US, which still leads – though falteringly – the globe’s shrinking camp of democracies. Since 2010, an increasing number of states have parted with democracy.

Over the past decade, democracy has been quickly reversed in post-genocide Rwanda. The same also happened in Ethiopia after the civil war in Tigray (2020-present day), while the Arab Spring’s democratic gains have been squashed across the Middle East. As in Putin’s Russia, electoral autocracies were installed in Bulgaria (2009), Hungary (2010), Serbia (2014), Turkey (2015), Poland (2016) and Slovenia (2020).

China’s population of 1.4 billion means that a fifth of all humankind lives under its communist regime. The other three self-declared communist states – Laos, North Korea and Vietnam – all border China. A new communist – and Sinic (Chinese influenced) – bloc, indeed.

So, after the two decades of decline in the wake of the 1989 collapse of the Soviet bloc, is the turbocharged Chinese-style communism 2.0 – which embraces capitalism – going to take over?

The rise and fall of democracy
The looser post-cold war definition of communism marries capitalism with socialism, as understood in the former Soviet Union. The overarching principle of socialism (seen as communism in the west) says: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his contribution.” In practice, this unorthodox mix of Soviet-style socialism and capitalism means an authoritarian, or even totalitarian, regime under a single party’s full and (these days) AI-enhanced control. This control extends over the now capitalist-style economy, too. Through this mono-party, the invariably male leader single-handedly rules.

Often a cult of personality is developed for him and the deal is sweetened with a modicum of a welfare state. In most cases these states advertise themselves as being communist. Others, like Belarus and Venezuela may not actually call it “communism” and a different name may be given to this ideology.

For example Bolivarianism in Venezuela, national unity in Belarus or Juche in North Korea. The mono-party political system makes the Communist Party into the state and its leader into the de-facto dictator. Unchecked collectivism, or the ruling dictator’s self-serving and populist rhetoric of prioritising masses (referred to as “nation or people”) over individuals, “justifies” his rule and the system. In places like Belarus and China, this has led to dissenters being repressed and concentration camps being built to remove them from “healthy society”.

Like the pre-1989 communist states, all these countries’ ruling regimes are anti-western in their official rhetoric, and often in their actions too. This anti-western aggression was another important defining feature of the communist states of the 20th century

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Socialism with Chinese Characteristics

I think we need a thread that defends Mao and Deng's legacy regardless of their mistakes. After reading this article, it makes sense why the author would assigns Maoism as the modern day ideological inheritor of Trotskyism. Using the market as a mechanism to build the material foundations for the lower stages of socialism seems to be the correct line:


Rebuttals are welcome, too. This isn't meant to be a sectarian thread.
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I think the Tigray war may end on the highway

The tplf has a larger army and experienced men than the Ethiopian one but they’ve got no supplies at this point, UN officials and human aid workers are getting arrested like cattle since they keep getting caught trying to supply arms to terrorists, Tigrayans are facing mass incarceration, the USA and the west in general is being blocked out by force under the threat of being targeted like tigrayans, TPLF has literally no source of food and the highway war has raged on for so long that even if anything was captured it’s likely either destroyed or going to be lost either way while the death toll on it is in the dozens to hundreds of thousands for 3 hours worth of driving space, the situation has escalated to the point where the TPLF themselves are stating they no longer want a new government just abiy gone and federal troops withdrawan from Tigray
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Brehs…. Why hasn't he still fixed Venezuela?
Where are the vacciness?
Where's the gdp?
Where's the democratically electwd government?

Madurobros….. What's happening?
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News 11/24/21

US expected to remove Farc from international terrorist list
The announcement is expected to bolster the struggling peace process, which has been implemented haltingly as violence from dissident rebel groups and drug traffickers continues to trouble the South American nation. US officials quoted by Reuters and the Wall Street Journal said the move could happen as early as Tuesday afternoon, while the state department said that it had provided notifications to Congress on “upcoming actions” regarding the Farc.

The Peruvian Far-Right Insists on Removal of President Castillo
On Tuesday, President Pedro Castillo argued that lawmakers who back the presidential dismissal request issued by Congress Vice-President Patricia Chirinos should do so before the Peruvian people and not within the "four walls” of the parliament enclosure.

Commodity traders accused of death threats and violence against Brazilian indigenous communities
Brazil’s rural communities face death threats and violence as corporations seek to force them from their sustainably managed land, a new Global Witness report claimed Nov. 23. The community of Capão do Modesto in Bahia state is one of those facing forced displacement to make way for powerful agricultural producers of environmentally damaging cash crops like soy and cotton, it is claimed.

Olympics Anti-China forces are stirring trouble ahead of Beijing Olympics -Global Times
The Winter Olympics in Beijing next year will be a "rite of passage" for China to become a mature major power, the state-backed Global Times said in an editorial on Tuesday, alleging that anti-Chinese forces were trying to make trouble.

China, Russia Condemn U.S. Military Moves Near Borders, Deepen 'Unbreakable' Cooperation
In a statement published Tuesday by the Chinese Defense Ministry, People's Liberation Army Eastern Theater Command spokesperson Senior Colonel Shi Yi slammed the passage of the U.S. Navy's Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyer USS Milius through the Taiwan Strait that separates the Chinese mainland from the self-ruling island claimed by the central government in Beijing.

Gaddafi's son disqualified as presidential candidate by Libya election commission
Libya's election commission ruled on Wednesday that Saif al-Islam Gaddafi, the son of the country's former ruler and a strong candidate in December's planned presidential election, was ineligible to run. Gaddafi was one of 25 candidates the commission disqualified, though it is an initial decision that is subject to an appeals process.

Erdogan under pressure to resign as Turkey’s economy collapses
Peoples’ Democratic Party (HDP) co-chair Mithat Sancar called on other parties to join them in tabling a motion calling for an immediate general election should President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s regime refuse to stand down. “Our agenda is clear. We have evaluated the collapse that we have all been witnessing since today.

Angry street protests by students in South Kurdistan continue
Students at the universities of South Kurdistan (North Iraq) have been protesting for four days against their learning and living conditions. Since 2014, no more allowances have been paid to students. In addition, the demonstrators criticize the condition of dormitories and universities, which restricts their freedom of learning.

Sweden's first female PM resigns hours after appointment
Magdalena Andersson, was announced as leader on Wednesday but resigned after her coalition partner quit the government and her budget failed to pass. Instead, parliament voted for a budget drawn-up by the opposition which includes the anti-immigrant far right.

Serbian activists rally against laws on expropriation and referendum
About 2,000 protesters rallied in Belgrade on Wednesday over the planned adoption of laws on expropriation and a referendum they say is designed by the government to help investors speed up their mining projects in Serbia. The protesters rallied in front of the office of President Aleksandar Vucic and later marched through the city centre.
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National Start Your Own Country Day

Greetings /leftypol/,

I came to you with an interesting endeavor I witnessed while browsing the internet. Today, November 22, is National Start Your Country Day. I'm wondering if we could come up with a name for a country we, /leftypol/, can all found together.
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A Thread For New Technologies That Cops Will Use Against Us In The Near Future


This is the Jetson One. Virtually no chance you can outrun the feds on foot once they've got one of these patrolling your neighbourhood. Imagine this, with a little swarm of mini drones controllable by the driver.
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Normalization of Death

It's weird that mass death, whether from Covid or other things has become so normalized in America now. 100k people have died of opiod overdose in a year and no one gives a fuck.

>Drug overdose deaths in the United States surpassed 100,000 in a 12-month period for the first time, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Wednesday, a troubling milestone amid an already devastating period for the country.

This is from april 2020 to april 2021. Weird that 9/11 was so huge for killing a few thousand people yet hundreds of thousands dying and no one gives a shit.

what is the marxist-materialist explanation of people no longer caring about mass death, at least when it isn't directly attributable to muslims or some other hated group?
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Ivy Leagues and Scientific Contribution

Are Harvard and its Ivy League siblings really as prestigious as it's reputed to be? How can the US simultaneously have a terrible public education system but somehow the best college in the world?

How influential are these "prestigious" universities in contributing to scientific output, anyway? You can say that Zizek is incredibly influential in some way or another, yet I've never heard of his alma mater and neither do most people in the world.
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Hume's History of England

>The History of England (1754–61) is David Hume's great work on the history of England (also covering Wales, Scotland and Ireland), which he wrote in instalments while he was librarian to the Faculty of Advocates in Edinburgh. It was published in six volumes in 1754, 1756, 1759, and 1761. The first publication of his History was greeted with outrage by all political factions, but it became a best-seller, finally giving him the financial independence he had long sought. Hume's History spanned "from the invasion of Julius Caesar to the Revolution of 1688" and went through over 100 editions. Many considered it the standard history of England in its day.

Has anyone read Hume's history of England? What's /leftypol/'s take on it?

Was David Hume the original burger? He was pro-american revolution and did grow to over 300 pounds before dying of intestinal cancer.
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Super-Imperialism making a Comeback?

The fuck is going on? Neo-Kautskyite drivel exposed by what looks to be the grayzonian type of anti-imperialist leftists that also stan China and Russia.

WorstEmpenada made a video a while ago, dismissing these type of theories as non-sensical anti-americanism that isn't rigorous enough to be an ideology. I ignored it back then, but it looks like it has gained track amongst twittoid charlatans and "tankie" subreddits, reallly claiming that the US is the only imperialist power? Bunch of retarded sophists using trash platforms like twitter and reddit to spread their half-backed theories without any sense, so they can gain a sort of internet-popularity.
I am starting to fear that social media as a means to spread agitprop and education has turned into a giant catastrophe. Without caution, the risk of just getting dumber and dumber online is the rule not the exception
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Life and Labor Commune

A while back I was doing some reading on utopian socialists and I learned something interesting. Apparently, there was a whole goddamn enclave within the Soviet Union that operated under a sort of Christian anarchism in the vein of Tolstoy. Called the Life and Labor Commune, this little community had over a thousand members at its peak and lasted from 1921 until 1939 when it was forcefully disbanded. Unsurprisingly, the Soviet government didn't really like them very much, probably due to the whole "religious socialism" thing and the fact that they were conscientious objectors, and tried to liquidate the commune a couple of times. They got a brief period of respite once they settled in Siberia, which lasted until 1936 when Stalin began his Great Sicko Mode Moment, the remaining members eventually being incorporated into a collective farm.

At least, that's what I gleaned from the limited information I was able to gather on them, and one of the sources on their oppression under the Great Purge comes from Solzhenitsyn, which needless to say raises eyebrows. But even so, it feels like the Soviet response to this group was a bit of an overreaction, ultimately they were just harmless weirdos who were doing their own thing. Am I not getting the full story here? Or was Stalin just being a right cunt?
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White Genocide should be real

>The colonized man is an envious man. And this the settler knows very well; when their glances meet he ascertains bitterly, always on the defensive, "They want to take our place." It is true, for there is no native who does not dream at least once a day of setting himself up in the settler's place. - Frantz Fanon, "Wretched of the Earth"

Why shouldn't people of color outnumber whites in America? Most white upper middle class americans, regardless of professed political belief, are at best terrible and at worst sociopathic. This country will never be sane or heal as long as white people are in charge. As rightists they are reactionaries and as "leftists" they are wreckers and flakey people who will just as easily turn to reaction once they get a 401k and a house in the burbs. Guys like Socialism Done Left and Agent Kochinski are the logical endpoints of white "leftism" and prime reasons of why whiteoid "leftists" can't be trusted. And that's the literal BEST case. 55%+ of whites are affirmatively voting for Trumpism, let alone moderate socdem, let alone communism. Are stop with the bullshit of "oh an economic program of socialism would have appealed to them" bull shit. Is someone who would be immensely helped by socialism but turns it down because they want to say "uyghur" a few more times a rational actor? The zoomer version of that is the dis.cord guys who want to try and meme "white juche" and the boomer version is just Jimmy Dore who shats on Marxism as something for college kids but obviously the squad sucks which they do, tbf but muh boogaloos and kyle rittenhouse are based.

Seriously, give me one fucking reason why literally anyone should trust the white "left" and american whiteoids shouldn't just be totally marginalized, ignored, and politically pushed out of power, along with their sociopathy of evangelical protestantism, ethnic nationalism, schizoism, and various other insane spooked ideas that most of them have populating their minds. INB4 muh idpol, its literally just facts.

Even fucking MAUPIN is basically just the Dengist version of Chris Hedges, he thinks capitalism and synthetic leftism is jewish and real socialism is when patriotic amurican protestants do shit.


I am fucking done with white american leftists, white genocide should be fucking real once America is multicultural it will be sane and if not socialism, then at least progress will actually be possible. As long as american full of racist machoman wannabe white guys pretending to be marlboro man clint eastwood cowboys and liberal hipster soibois who parrot Anne Applebaum and Paul Krugman essays and act all smug and ironic and shit. Europeans and a few based american whites like Richard Wolff will be allowed to continue on but Ken and Karen are going to the fucking gulag.
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Uh.. Based Duterte? Such a cool socialist!


>duterte "spiritual adviser" indicted on sex trafficking charges


>Dutertes daughter to be running mate for the son of Ferdinand Marcos, the CIA backed Junta leader who lead a reign of CIA backed terror over the country for decades.

wow huh guess the guess the guy pushing big CIA drug war energy who is a rabid anti communist and does drills with the US military is a piece of shit who knew.

Thats another correct position for Maoists, and Deng cucks eternally cucks


here is the crank website for the "appointed son of god" who Duterte the based leftist loves so much. It just gets even more based by the minute. Threatening children with eternally damnation if they don't suck you off, that's communism!

Dear god I hate all you leather daddy strong man believers so god damn much. I wish I could purge you like duterte purges communists
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The libs are going to keep control until long after it's too late to save our societies and our planet from them. If you want a picture of the future, imagine a lib soyfacing — forever. The libs moralising at you over 'extremism' are the same libs who masturbate to pictures of foreign toddler Alan Kurdi lying drowned on a beach as punishment for his crime of fleeing the bombs those same technocratic/moralistic libs dropped on him (and also fleeing the fascists they funded). I can't believe I used to consider them potential allies. I was so naive.
All liberals (including conservatives and right-'libertarians') are psychopaths and ultimately support fascism above all. They would rather burn millions of disabled or working-class or transgender people without a second fucking thought if their 'elected' leader told them that the rising cost of their fucking utilities or fucking traffic congestion on their commute was caused by issues far too complex for anyone but a policy wonk to understand, and that for very Important, Complex Reasons, the Final Solution to the "horse feed has gotten so expensive recently, we might have to sell one of the horses" problem has to be the complete genocide of a million homeless people.
Make absolutely no mistake: they will never be content with taking everything you have and crushing your dreams. They will murder you and everyone you love and the last thing you'll hear before the trapdoor opens is "if you'd just listened to the experts then you'd know why this is actually a good thing. Have you read Stephen Pinker?"
You know that everything I have said is the truth. If it wasn't, fascism would never have achieved power and we wouldn't have created Hell on Earth for the last few generations of our species.
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Leftypol/ opinion ?

Which one of them was the closest to bring communism, as proposed by Marx and Engels, to the world ? Lenin ? Stalin ? Mao ? The Kim's family ? Ho chi min ? Pol Pot ? Castro ?

I think the closest ones who almost reach perfect communism were Lenin and Pol Pot.
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Why do people here hate primitive communism?

>Only form of full communism to ever exist
>Ancestral trait to the human genus
>Existed far longer than class society, industrial society, or the single century of state socialism
>Self-sustaining for over 1 million years
>Humans roughly as intelligent as us for 300,000 years
>Fully actualized and meaningful lives with complex interactions with loved ones, friends, peers, and neighboring tribes
<Western leftists despise it
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Honestly what separates porkies and their states from gangsters?

I mean, gangsters are literally just porkies operating illegally, fuck tons of porkies began as drug dealers and thugs (like the Roosevelts), porkies have always used crude, gangsterish violence to get their way and compel proles, the British Empire were literally the biggest drug dealers of the 19th Century and the CIA are the biggest drug dealers of the modern era. What were the World Wars other than two massive, well-funded gang wars?
And honestly what even are gangs other than basically proto-bourgeois states operating in the context of larger legitimate states? And it goes this way with all class societies, innit? Wasn’t the origin of medieval kings and nobles literal warlords in the Roman post-apocalypse?
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Turkey protests

Yesterday protests erupted in Ankara, Istanbul and Izmir as the lira lost 45 % against the dollar in a day and the inflation is 20 %. People are calling for a resignation of the current government and the opposition called for an election.


So, why exactly is Turkey having these problems with their currency and such huge inflation? Is Turkey a window into the future for the rest of the world's economy?
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What are your thoughts on your extreme right wing agitator Andy Ngo trying to connect the truck attack to Black Lives Matter? It seems white supremacists will use any excuse to turn something into a political narrative without really knowing the details. The Daily Beast called him out and a storm of blue ticks is coming his way.

Pic unrelated. Oekaki.
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Dialectical thinking

How does one start thinking dialectically?
How does it differ from "mechanical thinking"?
To what extent one can apply "dialectics" to any field?
Does dialectics relate to fractals and entropy?
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The endgame of atheistic materialism and Marxism is the Borg. If you don’t believe in spiritual and metaphysical justice, then you’re a robot. Your entire philosophy of history and politics boils down to unfeeling, mechanical, nihilistic acquisition of resources and expansion of control for its own sake. Is that all humans are?

The Borg is the mirror of the Federation. The Federation is the ideal what we believe we are. The Borg is what we are in practice after you cut through all the bullshit. The Borg is the endgame of the Federation's materialistic philosophy.

The borg definition of perfection is about the accumulation of property. Some of it concrete people, planets , some abstract new technology, cultural ideas, general knowledge in other words, profit, the accumulation of capital and resources.

The borg drones exist to generate profit. When a borg drone is unable to generate profit, it is killed. New drones are created through assimilation. The Borg take over other civilizations and cultures and make them assimilate to their collective. Much like both the West and the Communists both do.

I haven't actually watched that tv show. But I know it was thought up by Marxists inspired by Posadas. The Federation is supposed to be what Marxism aims for. But then they have the Borg which is what they are afraid humanity actually is.
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Being > Identity

>be black American
<as an African-american who has been victim of X I think that…

>be lesbian American

<as a LatinX lesbian American who has been victim of X I think that…

(and so on…) Do you get my point yet? No?

Without even trying to step on your causes for victimhood… Did these people even thought for a second that they could free themselves at the very least personally, not "identifying" with the shit society enforces upon them?

Like, here are two examples:
>be black as coal
>brought up in an international family
>never had to realize as a child that you were (assumed) "black"
<go to USA
<…holy shiet
An example is (actual) anti-fascist hero Daryl Davis, who was raised up in a diplomatic setting with multicultural children in a multicultural school who, after going back to the USA, started realizing that "racism" actually exists. Since than, according to his biography, he actually converted 200+ KKK members to become non-racist, and leave the Klan.
Proofs: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bj-4Q416C8w & http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=7F3F9F46CE2ABD932AAD10FB9FA98025 (& many other youtube interviews and so on)…

As for the "sexual angle" there's this book which argues that most of the people don't actually have a so-called "sexual identity": http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=1547BFFEE80FBEEDE05CC4882977A788

…which leads me to ask the following question: wouldn't it be the ultimate end-result of societal emancipation that all of these groups (sexual, racial, etc.) reach a point where they no longer perceive themselves as "identities" but "beings?"
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Should socialists become capitalists?
Discussion of socialist strategy within capitalist countries is usually restricted to the space of politics and culture, but rarely economics. Why is this the case?
I'd argue that owning and operating a firm can bring many benefits to a socialist movement, the most obvious of which is the ability to provide funding for socialist organizations, projects and theorists. Firms that are sympathetic to socialist countries can offer goods at generous prices. Firms with socialist leadership can spread class consciousness by encouraging it's own workers to organize, alongside the effect of increased demand for labour.
What are some good arguments against this strategy?
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News 11/23/21

Former South Korean dictator Chun Doo-hwan dies aged 90
Chun made several returns to the spotlight. He caused a national furore in 2003 when he claimed total assets of 291,000 won ($245) of cash, two dogs and some home appliances – while owing 220.5 billion won in fines. His four children and other relatives were later found to own large swaths of land in Seoul and luxurious villas in the United States.

Li Keqiang meeting with local government heads shows Beijing is on high alert for mounting economic headwinds
A meeting between Chinese Premier Li Keqiang and 10 local government heads on Monday shows Beijing is on high alert for mounting headwinds for the world’s second-biggest economy, after the central government promised a new round of supportive measures for smaller companies to protect jobs and growth.

All CDPJ leader hopefuls back cooperation with JCP
During a debate hosted by the Japan National Press Club, the candidates also said the CDPJ-JCP cooperation has to be modified after it failed to achieve results in the Oct. 31 election for the House of Representatives, the all-important lower chamber. Seiji Osaka, 62, former special adviser to the prime minister, said the two parties should hold fresh talks on the JCP’s “limited non-cabinet cooperation” if the CDPJ rises to power.

Extinction Rebellion unveils plans to mobilise millions for acts of civil disobedience after Cop26's failures
CLIMATE campaigners have unveiled plans to mobilise more than two million activists next year for acts of civil disobedience following the failure of the Cop26 summit in Glasgow earlier this month. Extinction Rebellion (XR) vowed today to begin a major campaign of civil resistance in April, following on from large-scale protests before the coronavirus pandemic.

Spain's opposition leader in tight spot over mass for Franco
Spain's main ruling Socialist party demanded explanations on Monday from the leader of the conservative People's Party after Pablo Casado attended a religious service for the late dictator Francisco Franco, whose legacy still divides Spain.

25th UK energy firm this year to go amid killer gas prices
Bulb Energy, which serves some 1.7 million customers across the UK, has announced it is being put into administration after struggling to stay in business following a steep increase in gas prices. In a press release on Monday, Bulb Energy said it would enter “special administration” where it will continue to operate through the regulator Ofgem.

Gunshots fired at police in France's Martinique, Guadeloupe still tense
Gunshots were fired overnight at police in the French Caribbean island of Martinique, local authorities said on Tuesday, in a sign that unrest triggered by COVID-19 curbs that has rocked the nearby island of Guadeloupe could be spreading there. No police have been injured and things have calmed down in the daytime, a Martinique police official said, but traffic was still slowed by barricades.

France accused of aiding Egyptian military in killing suspected smugglers
According to a report on Sunday by investigative website Disclose - based on leaked documents - the countries cooperated in a mission codenamed Operation Sirli, which was originally focused on providing intelligence about militant threats along Egypt's western border. "In principle, the mission… consisted of searching the Western Desert to find possible terrorist threats coming from Libya," using a light aircraft designed for surveillance and reconnaissance, it said.

U.S. weighs grim options if nuclear talks with Iran collapse
With chances for a breakthrough at the talks in Vienna looking remote and Iran at odds with U.N. nuclear inspectors, U.S. and European officials face a grim set of choices — from ramped-up sanctions to potential military action — as Iran’s nuclear program advances into dangerous territory.

Eight Corpses With Signs Of Torture Appear In Rio de Janeiro
On Tuesday, the United Nations Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights (OHCHR) urged the Brazilian authorities to open an investigation into the appearance of eight bodies with signs of torture in Rio de Janeiro's Complexo do Salgueiro, a shantytown in which Militarized Police raided after the death of an officer.
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Give me an explanation of what Dengism is. And the critiques of it can explain how Dengism is allegedly failing the endeavour of creating socialism. If Dengism is not the way to socialism, then what is it leading to?
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Has maduro considered using the millions of industrial workers and thousands of factories he has to be mining shit like copper, gold, iron and more and manufacture finish goods instead of attacking his own civilians?
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Why did they remove dislikes?
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Are skyscrapers really space inefficient?

They do offer up a lot of housing
They do take up far less space than to say a suburban neighborhood or a town
They can be built quickly China is a great example

What makes them wrong to build?
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For the first time I’ve lost empathy for people that complain about rent

Faggots that complain about high rent and housing prices are the samefags that question why they can’t just live in a suburban neighborhood or in the middle of a major cities containing millions of people while whining quite literally endlessly about commie blocks and blindly accept immigration and the constant construction of suburbs. Do urbanites not understand urban planning? Ffs you’d think that the people that have lived in cities for years would come to accept block life is the way it is out of not just economic but for environmental reasons aswell, suburbs and low density cities(like shanghai after XI ruined it) are REALLY wasteful and expensive in the amount of resources and land they use up that blocks off opportunities to mine minerals and build infrastructure that would actually create well paying jobs people need to fucking live

I hate the capitalist class a lot but honestly the consumer that buys the capitalists shit is far worse as they enable the misery of proles to happen
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should communists have critical support for abolishing central banking? they feel very much like neo-feudal palace economies, in a way, and the unfettering of capitalist markets towards something more subjective (i.e. like austrian economists argue for) could help accelerate the development of the proletariat and thus communism
you could argue the institution of the federal reserve was created to help put a stop to the proletarian movements of the 1900s/1910s in the US
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Revolution Brazil update (mods read top of post)

Of late slanderous trolls have been posing as Maoists and making stupid posts preventing people from making genuine posts on the current situation. One of the most ardent opponents of these trolls "AusJuche" eventually discovered the trolls for who they are.

Update on the situation in Brazil.
It appears that after the recent victories of the peasant's defending their land Brazil.
Communist propaganda is now entering the city's.

To quote a news source

On November 5, the Support Committee for the revolutionary Brazilian newspaper A Nova Democracia (AND) in Maringa, located in southern Brazil, distributed a special edition print issue about Chairman Gonzalo. Members of the support committee spoke on Chairman Gonzalo’s life as the leader of the International Communist Movement and the Communist Party of Peru. Members also explained that Chairman Gonzalo never surrendered or betrayed the revolution despite being tortured and held in solitary confinement for 29 years, and ultimately assassinated by the old State in Peru with the backing of US imperialism.

The Support Committee for AND in Curitiba, in southern Brazil, distributed articles in a transport hub on November 6 that denounced the recent attacks on the Saint Vincent peasant camp and the murder of John, a 51-year-old peasant murdered in front of his home. Members of the Support Committee also told those who passed by about the successful student occupation of the cafeteria of Curitiba University.

On November 13, the AND Support Committee in Montes Claros, located in southeastern Brazil, distributed the special edition of AND for Chairman Gonzalo in North Minas. The people who spoke to the Support Committee were moved by Chairman Gonzalo’s dedication to the peasant struggle and impressed by the development of the revolution in Peru.
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>Make no mistake Comrades, no justice the United States government is capable of providing would’ve been adequate or appropriate, steeped as it is in the centuries-old oppression and violence of white supremacy. No justice of theirs could’ve been equal to the weight of our loss. The white supremacists in the state cannot provide justice to the victims of white supremacists in the streets. And yet on this day we have been denied even the spectacle, the illusion, of justice. This is a farce endorsed by the highest authorities in the land, the President himself included.

>From the moment Kyle Rittenhouse’s trial began we knew what the verdict was. Some have referred to Rittenhouse as a “vigilante,” but we must be clear on exactly what that means. Rittenhouse was nothing less than a voluntary police officer, armed with the authority of white supremacy and protected by its creed. The state, whose only true law is white supremacy, came to his defense with all the means at its disposal – a trial marked from the beginning by blatant bias and manipulation – just as it does for all its chosen executioners. Further still, the constitution guarantees one a trial by a jury of their peers – but what peers must a monster such as Rittenhouse have! Surely, his peers are nothing less than petty bourgeois white supremacists themselves. Justice is not, nor has it ever been, blind. This is the justice of the ruling class.

>Make no mistake, we are to blame that Kyle still walks – he should never have been allowed to kill the night of August 25th. Let this be our lesson from Kenosha: the only justice we will ever receive is that which we take for ourselves. And take it we must, with our eyes open, and with expert marksmanship. Not just Rittenhouse, the amateur, but also every last one of his professional colleagues. Shout once again the cry “No Justice, No Peace!” but do so in the knowledge that we must deliver this justice to ourselves, by our own hands.

<This article was written by one or more members of the CORS central committee, and represents the central committee as a whole.

I want to specifically disclaim any relation between the poster of this message and the statement by the CORS editorial board being reposted herein. The views expressed by CORS are not my views.
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1990s Eastern European genocide thread

Never forget what the porkies did to us.

And remember that Russia has a good situation, since Russians only emigrate in small numbers and they received immigrants from all the FSU after 1991. In other countries, especially the ones that are EU members, it's even worse.
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Recently I've been made aware that Materialism and Empirio-Criticism tends to get shit on. I've seen this around before but I have not found many resources on it. Skimming it over this doesn't seem to be too different content wise from something like the dialectics of nature. Everything I am seeing is pretty innocuous. I'm not a philosophy fag can someone explain what is wrong with this text. Does it have something to do with Lenin's apparent atomism? I read a brief article that western marxists took issue with it but I'm too much of a brainlet to understand.

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/urban vs rural/

Urban vs Rural vs suburban General

We must decide whether or not socialism will be urban or rural based. Personally I think socialism will be URBAN because urbanization is part of the process of proletarianism.

I've seen a ton of takes on this site from barely reformed chinlets seething about muh blood and soil rural ranchers vs degenerate hipster soiboi liberals with fancy coffee, muh rural tradwaifus vs slutty urbanite girls, muh anglo saxon christians vs kikes/uyghurs/spics/etc. in cities.

We need to hash this out ONCE AND FOR ALL
>the bourgeoisie has subjected the country to the rule of the towns. It has created enormous cities, has greatly increased the urban population as compared with the rural, and has thus rescued a considerable part of the population from the idiocy of rural life. Just as it has made the country dependent on the towns, so it has made barbarian and semi-barbarian countries dependent on the civilised ones, nations of peasants on nations of bourgeois, the East on the West.
t. Karl Fucking Marx, "The Communist Manifesto"
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I want to join my nations army in order to reinvent myself a bit. I am unmotivated,lazy, depressed and fearful of even the most basic succes interactions, iam having doubts about the career that im having and i feel that i have no purpose. I want to join the army in order to better myself and get some semblance of organization and confidence in my life. Problem is ( and the reason that i am writing this in here) is a i dont want to fight for porkys interests and act as cannon fodder for his greed. What should i do? Will the personal payoff that i seek to get offset the cost of being a pawn to for Porky?
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A New Atheist™ approaches you and upon learning that you are a communist abruptly tells you:
>uhm, akshually, the soviet union might have pretended to be an atheist state, but it was actually a state religion with personality cults! A real atheist would never want such a thing. We want secular humanism, not such totalitarian cult states.

How do you respond?
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The West is stupid and getting stupider

Why does it seem like Westernoid society is becoming even stupider?
It seems like knowingly being a stupid fucking moron that absolutely should know better is becoming a cultural norm in the W*st
Just look at how many zoomer and polyp memes revolve around how modern science and education is soy but being a stupid fucking moron is based because it doesn’t take effort to be a dull piece of shit
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>Abortion is the termination of a pregnancy by removal or expulsion of an embryo or fetus. An abortion that occurs without intervention is known as a miscarriage or "spontaneous abortion" and occurs in approximately 30% to 40% of pregnancies. When deliberate steps are taken to end a pregnancy, it is called an induced abortion, or less frequently "induced miscarriage". The unmodified word abortion generally refers to an induced abortion.

What is the actual Marxist stance on abortion? Stalin made it illegal? But leftists are supposed to be in favor or women's rights? China mandates it in some circumstances?

What is the actual good stance on ABORTION?
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reconstitute the CPC 👎
reconstitute the CCF 👍
fuck the smearing of this absolutely based org as racist or chauvinistic by slimy activists

also /canleftypol/ i guess
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News 11/22/21

Chile: Gabriel Boric To Face Jose Antonio Kast on Dec 19 Runoff
In third place, populist outsider candidate Franco Parisi earned just over 13% of the vote, and in fourth and a close fifth, Christian democrat Yasna Provoste snagged just over 12% and center-right candidate Sebastian Sichel earned just under 12% of the vote, respectively.

Maduro hails ‘victory for the people’ as party sweeps to victory in Venezuelan elections
Communist Party of Venezuela general secretary Oscar Figuera alleged that authorities in the Jesus Maria Semprun municipality of Zulia state had colluded to block voters, while police fired shots and tear gas at crowds. In a statement, he condemned the “violent, illegal and vandalistic action” of mayor Keyrineth Fernandez and the local PSUV leadership, demanding the sacking of local National Electoral Council representative Ramilis Sanchez.

Lucknow Mahapanchayat: Farmers Pledge not to go Home Until They get Law on MSP in Parliament
Chanda, Phula Devi, Meera and Raspatali along with over two dozen marginal farmers hitch-hiked from Bhadohi to the state capital to participate in 'MSP Adhikar Mahapanchayat' at Eco Garden in Lucknow. They had a common question: how will they survive if the government snatches their small piece of land? For them, this is a fight is to save "land and future generations". They were among thousands of farmers, including from Awadh, Terai and Purvanchal region, who had reached early in the morning at Eco Garden to attend mahapanchayat,

PYD rejects Damascus Government accusations
The statement continued, "At a time, we need to unite our ranks together against those who occupied our lands, and threatens our future as Syrians, we find the regime in Damascus adopting a policy of denial of the national and democratic role of SDF and the Democratic Autonomous Administration. This only results in deepening fragmentation in the Syrian.

Distraught Yazidi genocide survivors return from Belarus to Kurdistan
Around 430 would-be migrants arrived in the cities of Erbil and Baghdad in Iraq on Thursday evening, some covering their faces as their arrival was met by dozens of journalists at the Erbil International Airport (EIA). Among them were mentally distraught Yazidi genocide survivors, who had been living in displacement camps in Iraqi Kurdistan before making their way to Europe.

Gazprom will halt gas supply to Moldova in 48 hours – spokesman
Russia’s energy giant Gazprom will stop gas supplies to Moldova in 48 hours since Chisinau has failed to pay its current gas consumption debt, a spokesman for the company’s board chairman has announced on Monday. “Today is the scheduled date of payment. Yet, there is no payment,” Sergey Kupriyanov, Gazprom board chairman’s spokesman, said in a statement, adding that the energy giant is “extremely disappointed” with Moldova’s failure to fulfill its obligations under the recently extended contract.

Russia Spy Agency Dismisses Claims of Ukraine Invasion Plan
"The Americans are painting a frightening picture of hordes of Russian tanks that will start to crush Ukrainian cities, saying they have some 'reliable information' of such Russian intentions," the SVR said in a rare statement to Russian news agencies.

Portugal's power production goes coal-free long before deadline
Portugal shut down its last remaining coal plant over the weekend, ending the use of the polluting material for electricity generation and becoming the fourth country in the European Union to do so.https://www.reuters.com/business/cop/portugals-power-production-goes-coal-free-long-before-deadline-2021-11-22/

Jobs lost, middle class Afghans slide into poverty, hunger
The economy was already in trouble under the previous, U.S.-backed government, which often could not pay its employees. The situation was worsened by the coronavirus pandemic and by a punishing drought that drove up food prices. Already in 2020, nearly half of Afghanistan’s population was living in poverty.

Coronavirus: former heads of pandemic review panel warn ‘the world is losing time’
Governments are not moving fast enough to end the pandemic or to prevent another one, warned the former heads of an independent body tasked with grading the world on its response to Covid-19. “Waves of disease and death continue – as people in the northern hemisphere move indoors, fatigue with restrictions sets in, vaccine coverage and other countermeasures remain uneven, and people in the poorest countries have almost no access to vaccines,” wrote former New Zealand prime minister Helen Clark and former Liberian president Ellen Johnson Sirleaf in a report released on Monday.
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What are the fundamental rights you believe in?

Are modern human rights by the un valid from your view point?

Property rights are invalid, but what about personal property rights? And where do they end, what's their extent in your view?
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Ok kraut /leftypol/, what the actual fuck was the Kentler project, and why did worst germany do it?
Is there more of this shit, and why did they even do it?
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Has anyone on here read the book Witness by ex-communist-turned-rightoid Whittaker Chambers? How much of it is real cash how much of it is complete horseshit? Are any of the accusations he makes against the CPUSA (especially the “underground”) true?
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Symptomatic Reading the Right

Symptomatic Reading the Right
>A symptomatic reading is concerned with understanding how a text come to mean what it does as opposed to simply describing what it means. Symptomatic reading regards meaning as cultural rather than natural and is interested in explaining how culture shapes and determines a reader's reading of the text.
One of the things I've realized about the right is that you can't take (almost anything they say) at face value. I don't mean op-eds by the lameo-boomer Reaganite leftover crowd like Romney/Kristol/David Brooks or w/e. I mean the populist right which at this point is the "mainstream" right. Liberals like to look at some wacky claim a right wing pundit/politician or group has said and see that it's insane, racist, or just plain nonsensical, and then smugly declare that the right is stupid for not realizing this. Liberal outlets like “The Young Turks” are notorious for this, and while it’s good for a cheap laugh, it kind of misses the point. Their inability to articulate what it is they actually mean doesn’t mean they are stupid.

If you take as a starting point, evaluating everything the right says on a factual level, as an actual, empirical claim on the truth, you will come to the same conclusion as liberals – that the right are a bunch of ignorant rubes who are (possibly willfully) ignorant. In that case the solution is simple – education. They just don’t know – so tell them the facts. That obviously doesn’t work so liberals cope by saying the right is just insane, which to be fair, they are, but that’s not why they don’t get it. Because they’re listening only to what they are saying and not what they mean. On the other hand if you interpret the right’s statements, not as literal statements of fact, but as part of a narrative, it makes a lot more sense. It may be factually incorrect but it is emotionally true – you have to read the emotional subtext of what they’re saying. You have to, in short, do a symptomatic decoding of their statements. A lot more mental overhead to be sure, but necessary. Not just what they are literally saying but what they WANT to say or what they CANT say. Either because they can’t really quite articulate it or they feel they can’t say what they really want to due to “political correctness”.

For example the claim that the democrats committed “massive voter fraud”. Now here on the far left we don’t really give a shit about the democrats, nevertheless, its funny to see the right deny and seethe about what is really an incontrovertible fact. But it’s not really a lie, is it? Sure it is a lie that Trump actually won those states, but what they mean by voter fraud isn’t that votes came out of thin air, its that they may as well have. They know damn well that votes didn’t “come out of thin air”. A sort of inverted “Hanlon’s Razor” is in play here. What they mean is that the people who voted are evil, or brainwashed or bribed by welfare, so their vote shouldn’t really count. Biden was elected by a majority of voters but not a majority of “Real” Americans(tm). Essentially what to them is fraud isn’t fake votes were created in America, but that fake Americans (to them) casted the votes.

Another example is the argument the right gives against ending the electoral college, that “we don’t want to be ruled by LA/NYC/Miami”. If you evaluate it on a logical level it makes no sense. LA only has 4 million people. NYC 8-9 million. These cities can’t possibly have that big an impact on a country of 330+ million people, the small towns VASTLY outnumber the cities. However, when you read into it, what they’re really saying is we don’t want to be “ruled” by the TYPE of people that live in Los Angeles and New York, because we feel those kinds of people have too much power and influence already.hint: its jews – just look at a map of distribution of where jewish people live in the US and you will see LA/NYC and florida lit up

The right is essentially based on a rejection of the enlightenment idea, of Rousseau, Kant, and all the others that power needs a rational justification, as opposed to the divine right of kings or the right of conquest. None of their reasons are reasons, they’re rationalizations or even pseudo rationalizations because to genuinely try and ground their ideas in reason would itself be a performative contradiction, in that it goes against the core irrationalist kernel of the right.
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Good god why are they still backwards even after urbanization

I’m surprised Israel is mentioned but pretty much the entirety of MENA remains backwards and hyper reactionary even after these states have seen massive urban migration which should’ve triggered social atomization leading to these states no longer having theocratic beliefs like child marriage, genitalia mutiliation and fundamentalism promoted like what you see in old British and west African villages and tribes. The fact that there are forecasts for only Egypt and Pakistanis seeing any form of a successful future as organic as in China and subsaharan Africa rings a problem in how places like Algeria libya Tunisia Lebanon and more are developing, coupled with the fact that literally all of these states are legit war zones despite the gulf states technically being wealthy only makes one ponder what the hell went wrong
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Is leftism dead?

On what grounds should we oppose capitalism when people in the developed world are content with it despite its flaws?
If most people can't understand what's wrong with capitalism without reading holy books like Marx's Das Kapital then how is revolution even possible? Most people can't afford to be academics reading esoteric theory?
When people are THAT scared of any alternative to capitalism, When people think liberal democratic capitalism is the best compromise with human nature, why even bother teaching them "the truth"?
There will always be people who face the brunt of capitalist exploitation and they are the ones who are ready to revolt, but they are low in number(in developed countries)
Modern intellectuals who purport to be anti-capitalist don't actually hate capitalism. They aren't capable of imagining any social arrangement that isn't capitalistic.
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You will never live on mars

Space is gay and space exploration is a waste of money
Living off earth would be one of the most hellish experiences imaginable
Mars isn’t some massive new dimension filled with life or grandeur. It’s a fucking oxygenless rock filled with chemicals that will kill you or give you cancers instantly with any form of contact
Planet terraforming is stupid, expensive and would likely cause immediate geographic crises compared to just building settlements that can function with the planets natural state
Asteroid mining or mining in space will NEVER be economically efficient and FAR more resources can be extracted on earth than any made outside this planet or solar system
Humanity will quite literally never meet the energy demands that would make a Dyson sphere necessary because a single cubic km of salt water can power the entire planet for decades to centuries in a planet containing billions upon billions of km of that shit
Coruscant and planet sized cities will NEVER exist when ordinary high rise and decent urban planning erases the need for cars, flying cars, sprawl or even skyscrapers to form
Fusion power will NEVER be energy efficient enough to be used when hydro and fission plants already exist and the resources for them are abundant and cheap to get
AI and mega computers will never become smarter than cockroaches, you know why? Because AI is an over glorified series of if statements that’s hyper energy efficient and can’t operate in environments where even a single variable changes
No amount of life extension, genetic engineering and stem cell bullshit will save you from ordinary diseases contracted by old age or shit geography
Automation is a meme and is merely a productive piece of equipment not a tool to actually end the need for labour
CRISPR won’t be used to make superhumans it’ll be used to cure diseases as eugenics has been disproven over and over again since the belief was made due to man possessing tech overriding the need to rely on his natural form
Prosthetics won’t make you a “better man” either they’ll be used to treat the disabled and mimic ordinary limbs as much as possible
Radiation only gives you cancer a horribly painful and long death and will never lead to mutations or superpowers
Billionaires aren’t conquering planets, they’re using rocket tech from the 50s as a publicity stunt to scam investors for quick cash

Your life will be as boring, repetitive, short and violent as it is now and will stay that way for generations while the only aspect of society that changes is healthcare and how many more jobs goods and services get digitized. Enjoy your lives everyone :)
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Wherein we plug effort posts by us an others. Please feel free to shill anything worthy, anything that goes beyond a page and immediate reactions. Herein we collect the best of the best when it comes to /leftypol/ effort posting. Please lurk this thread if you don't have the time to read everything all the time. Please contribute to this thread when you either publish an effort post in general, or if you think that one effort-poster has been under-appreciated.

I start:
>>609898 (general overview of soviet revolution)
>>611236 (admiration & questions)
>>611249 (further details & admiration)
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Meme guy here, the guy who made all the threads about how powerful memes are. I don't think that anymore, why? Because I realize that memes are not that powerful, the thing that truly blackpilled me on the power of memes was the fact that /qa/ soijaks were all organized on fbi.gov and on their own image board. It was all fake and gay bullshit, it was all astroturf by fbi.gov uyghurs and nobody knew about it. I tried to channel the power of memes for my own ends, to shitpost harder than anyone else in order to feel powerful, because when I posted a powerful meme or a pepe I could feel the power of the collective subconscoiusness but it was actually a demiurge giving me a false feeling of power. Those feelings that I got from posting pepe was not strong enough anymore and 4chan has been dying off as people know how astroturf heavy it is, despite the CIA uyghurs trying to prop it back up. I don't believe in memes anymore, I don't fear 4chan or memes I don't try to harness their power. How did memes lose their power even though they had the power to elect a president? And yet I don't even think they did that either. I am feeling uncomforted because I have no idea what to believe. I changed to leftypol once I realize how the gang weed memes and the chinwojak had such poetency despite coming from a group of less than 300 souls. leftypol meme power must be powerful because their memes are based in reality. I think this is the reason why memes as a whole have been dying off, it is all fake and gay bullshit. Know your meme is a hive of degeneracy and I hate it and it's stupid comment section because they are all fools for thinking that memes had power. I was a fool and I'm still a fool. How do you escape this illusion of god?
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So how is this supposed to stop immigration?


For a few things
Those poles understand those migrants can just take another route to Germany right and likely already have

Poland is in a debt, ageing and inflation crisis that it cannot actually overcome on its own proven by the fact that abortion bans did nothing to increase births if not even lower it only incentivizing immigration in and out of Poland much less can Poland afford the wages of those police officers or their equipment if they plan on doing by this long term

More action at the same crossing is only causing more harm for Poland since now it faces sanctions, countries as reactionary as fucking Russia and Belarus saying they’re retarded and making a small problem into a geopolitical crisis for themselves, polish migrants(there’s way WAY more of them in the west than one would think) now risk getting assblasted in the form of declined job opportunities, open discrimination and stereotyping in the western sphere of influence for this reactionary bs even more than they already were before this
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/brg/ Brasil General /brg/


An economic crisis started by Car Wash back in 2013 still shows no signs of abating, a don't-call-it-a-genocide, a ruling class determined to steal everything they can while there's still a braindead patsy-in-charge to catch all the blame later, an electoralist left which gave up on everything but waiting for next year's elections and 212 million people sleep furiously throughout all of the previous.

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News 11/20/21

Farmers' Movement to Continue With Pending Demands; Rallies on Nov 26 to Mark 1st Anniversary
A day after Prime Minister Narendra Modi announced the withdrawal of the three contentious farm laws, the Samyukt Kisan Morcha (SKM) said that it would continue its struggle for all pending demands to be met by the government and hold all announced programmes, including the ones to mark the first anniversary of the farmers' protest on November 26, as planned.

CPI (Maoist) Squad Sabotage Railway Tracks In Latehar District
A squad of CPI (Maoist) cadres blew up a portion of railway tracks in Jharkhand’s Latehar district in the early hours of Saturday, November 20, 2021 disrupting train services on the Barkakana-Garhwa route, police said. A blast took place on the railway tracks between Richughuta and Demu stations around 12.30 am, an officer said.

Austrian far-right Freedom Party protests against COVID measures
Thousands of protesters have gathered in Austria’s capital, Vienna, after the government announced a nationwide lockdown to contain the quickly rising coronavirus infections in the country. The far-right opposition Freedom Party is among those who have called for Saturday’s protest and have pledged to combat the new restrictions.

UK considering diplomatic boycott of Winter Olympics in Beijing- The Times
Under one option, British ministers would not attend the Games, although the ambassador to China would, Times added. Five Conservative politicians wrote to Johnson urging him to ban any official UK diplomatic representation at the Winter Olympics in February, according to the report.

Mexico’s AMLO Tells Biden to Curb Imports, Ease Up on Migrants
AMLO said through a translator that Pacific ports are “saturated with merchandise coming from Asia” and that Mexico, the U.S. and Canada should seek to build up their industrial bases to produce more goods domestically.
He repeatedly promoted the idea of North American economic “integration,” without elaborating.

Cuba Begins Two-Day Moncada 2021 Military Exercises
The Moncada 2021 military exercise, which was convened to coincide with the date initially requested for the Civic March for Change, began this Thursday in Cuba with the participation of the high political command, including former President Raúl Castro, and in order to “prepare in situations of risk or threat to the security of the country “.

HPG: Turkish troops retreated from two areas in Avashin
The statement published on Friday said, “The invasion operation launched by the Turkish state in the Werxelê and Tabûra Ereba areas in Avashin region was met by our forces with historic resistance. Unable to hold on and aware of the deadly blows they would suffer, the invaders have retreated from the areas of Werxelê and Tabûra Ereba.”

Sadr calls for majority government, 'liquidation' of Iraqi militias
Amidst the political deadlock following Iraq's elections on Oct. 10, Iraqi President Barham Salih hosted a meeting with Prime Minister Mustafa al-Kadhimi and Chief Justice of the Supreme Judicial Council Faiq Zaidan on Nov. 18 at Baghdad Palace in the Green Zone.

Yemen's Houthis say they attacked Saudi cities, Aramco facilities
Yemen's Houthi movement said on Saturday it had fired 14 drone attacks at several Saudi cities, including at Saudi Aramco facilities in Jeddah. The Saudi-led coalition battling the Iran-aligned Houthis in Yemen on Friday said it destroyed three drones launched towards southern Saudi Arabia and a fourth over Yemen. It said the group "failed to launch two ballistic missiles" and they fell inside Yemen.

‘Life is bad’: despair grips Vietnamese workers at Chinese tyre factory in Serbia
Some 500 Vietnamese workers hired to build the factory for the Chinese firm Linglong are living in harsh conditions in barracks with no heating or warm water Linglong, which is accused of seizing the workers’ passports, said they were not employed by the company and blamed their situation on subcontractors

Rising Inflation Gives Boost to Russia’s Discount Retailers
Now, with inflation running above 8% and independent surveys showing rising prices are Russians’ number one concern, discount retailers like Familia are looking to capitalize on another round of belt-tightening, and say they are better positioned than their more expensive competitors to weather a period of accelerating costs.

Top Chinese envoy hits back at US demands to follow White House ‘rules of the road’
“The US says that its China policy is for defending the ‘rules-based international order’ and ensuring the implementation of ‘rules of the road’,” Qin said at a Brookings Institution event on Thursday, according to a transcript released by the Chinese embassy in Friday. “But what are the rules? Who made these rules? Who are the traffic police? The US has not made itself clear on these questions.”
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>be me
>be leaf
>see gas station under construction over 2 months ago
>it’s still under construction
>see news about China
>they built a new multi billion dollar rail system and supply chain in the same time frame
Ffs why is this is so unfair why do our cities have to take so freakishly long to be built we have more than them
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Where is the line drawn between fundamental leftist ideals like anti racism and neoliberalism? It seems increasingly difficult to engage in discussions on the impact of capitalism on racial and cultural minorities without setting off alarms, so to speak. I don't feel any less committed to racial equality, and I worry that by overlooking this issue we give the far right free reign to exploit anti-immigrant sentiment.

Then again, Anti racism has been pretty much at the heart of all ground level demonstration I have been involved it, whether that is distributing newsletters or protest. It is only online that this matter becomes clouded with idea of 'idpol' or neoliberalism.
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Dependency Theory and World Systems Theory

I watched this video and and it got me thinking: Do most marxists accept one of those theories as a given or are there some who reject it? I personally thik that world systems theory makes a lot of sense and accepting its premise makes it easier for marxists to actually come up with realistic solutions to fight capitalism. On the other hand though…the theory has been criticised for making unprovable claims, especially the claims of founder of the theory, Wallerstein. What do you guys think?
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The North American capitalist class is harming itself, alot

One would think that the behaviour and decisions of the capitalist class is out of self interest for more profits but a lot of their current policies don’t if not actively harm and profits that they could’ve made
>for one thing city planning
Dense cities are good not just for the environment and government expenditures but also businesses, there’s a reason why Tokyo New York and Chicago make so much revenue compared to other cities and it’s because when most civilians are within walking distance of where they need to go capitalists have plenty of workers and potential customers at their doorsteps rather than what happens in most cities where civilians are dozens to hundreds of kilometres away from where they can afford to sell their goods.
>next regulations and free trade
I’m amazed that I have ever had to quote prageru on anything smart but they weren’t wrong when they stated that businesses corporations whatever cost almost as much money to run as they produce in revenue and that regulations only add to costs and make it harder for the capitalist class to churn a profit, regulations in North America hardly ever promote public safety especially in the USA over just making elites wealthier and coupled with the endless tariffs, trade barriers and sanctioning North American countries like America and Canada push on a regular basis only makes it harder for young and old businesses to grow and cuts off potential profits as not only as they have no where to outsource labour to but also less potential customers for their goods meaning they either have to flee to another country to manage their businesses or accept lower revenues and higher costs, we already saw the effects of sanctioning just recently due to the CIAs actions and now the USA is feeling intense heat of them in the form of major supply shortages as a side effect
>finally infrastructure and education
Education speaks for itself, poorly educated and skilled workers aren’t going to be able to qualify for the jobs capitalists need to make any revenue beyond a literal McDonald’s job which is why most professional workers in North America and the west in general tend to be immigrants than the native born population, this also has another effect of raising the costs of labour as too few people are gonna be applying and likewise capitalists can’t lower wages and cut benefits for productive labourers like they would want.
For infrastructure this one may matter far more, if you know why China built so many railways you’ll know that’s economically smart, more connections to neighbouring states and cities means more opportunities to produce more revenue by finding more customers to sell their goods to, Ford rarely makes any money off the USA anymore as they grew to an international business, in North America scammers delay projects if not cut funding for them entirely meaning most road and rail connections get cut off and likewise as mentioned in the urban planning section of this text, capitalists get cut off from from potential customers and likewise profits .

All in all North American capitalists are harming themselves far more than(ironically enough) China ever would. I’m interested in what they’ll do once they come to terms with the reality of their own policies
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Nazi K/D ratio


Please help me understand how a nation: that was transporting fuel by trucks with expenditure of 40-70 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers driven; those trucks driving from occupied Minsk to occupied Kiev in winter of 1942, a total distance of 250 miles; out of a company of up to 300 people, in deep rear of German army, 40 were frozen to the point of losing fingers and legs, 2 straight up dead; has lost 38 trucks and destroyed them to not let partisans capture them; were given rations for 5 days when the distance was 8 days; while on the road, sleeping in their trucks while having no fuel to spare to heat themselves, and with no warm clothing; who had to urinate on their frozen fingers to disinfect frost wounds; how this nation officially has better K/D ratio than Soviets? Let me repeat it again, it was a GERMAN-OCCUPIED TERRITORY DEEP IN THE REAR, road from Minsk to Kiev.

Why do communists on this side defend Nazi K/D superiority? I mean, it's not like there's no plentiful evidence that Nazis were losing more soldiers than Soviets. Even in the book I'm quoting there's a passage about them driving through mixed graveyard; author out of the blue says: "but in truth, more Soviets have died than Germans. You see, Germans were buried in single graves, while Soviet graves had 10-12 corpses in them!" What German soldiers themselves were seeing in this war, made them question real number of losses, even in their memoirs.

Paulus got the most hilariously bad supply situation possible. Imagine having no ammo to shoot back at Soviets, and instead getting crates of WINE. And guess what last plane has brought incircled Paulus' troops? DOZEN BOXES OF CONDOMS. Instead of food and weapons and ammo and warm clothing. CONDOMS.

How can we continue believing bullshit about abysmal Soviet K/D ratios? Just a reminder, Napoleon has gotten to Moscow 3 months faster than Hitler. 3 months faster, alright. Are we fucking sure Nazis were winning in 1941?

Go through google translate or whatever https://zen.yandex.ru/media/id/5c1cf4490df9c100aafd3652/tretii-reih-blickrig-i-razdolbaistvo-6151e6fd6c53b805e0f2146a
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News 11/19/21

Indian farmers score spectacular victory as Modi repeals farm laws
Mr Modi made the announcement on national TV on the day of the Guru Purab festival, when Sikhs celebrate the birthday of the religion’s founder Guru Nanak. Sikhs from Punjab made up many of the farmers whose roadblocks and rallies have besieged New Delhi for almost a year.

Over 80% of Cuba's Population Fully Vaccinated Against COVID-19
To date, 10,110,794 people have received at least one dose of one of the Cuban vaccines Soberana 02, Soberana Plus and Abdala. Of these, 9,146,468 people have already received a second dose and 8,484,662 people have received a third dose. Cuba is the most vaccinated country in Latin America, boasts the highest number of dosis administered per 100 inhabitants, and is within the Top 5 most vaccinated countries worldwide.

Nicaragua leaves the OAS
From the headquarters of the Foreign Ministry in this capital, the diplomat communicated that, with instructions from President Daniel Ortega, they sent to the Secretary General of the OAS, Luis Almagro, their position denouncing the interference in internal affairs and the decision to leave the organization.

Fujimori Dictatorship Advisor Montesinos Sentenced To 17 years
The court, however, ruled that the punishment has been served given that Montesinos was imposed a 25-year sentence for human rights violations in 2001, and the Peruvian justice system does not add the sentences but imposes the one that has the most years in prison over the rest.

A Dictator’s Son and Duterte’s Daughter Team Up in a Bid To Rule the Philippines
Most observers expected Duterte Carpio to take on Marcos Jr and battle it out for the top post. But, as some speculated, either of them could also slide down to vice president and run in tandem. It was a toss-up, with different opinion polls having either of them as the frontrunner for both positions.

NPA Inflicts Punishment On AFP Intelligence Operative In Negros Oriental Province
Blanca was an active local intel of the military and harassed and red-tagged civilians that he suspected as being NPA supporters. He was also active in tracking the NPA presence in the area. According to the demands of the masses, the decision of the people’s court and also pursuant to Blanca’s legitimacy as a military target, revolutionary justice was meted out by operatives of the LPC-NPA.

US warns pilots of weapon fire as war nears Ethiopia capital
The Federal Aviation Administration advisory issued Wednesday cites the “ongoing clashes” between Ethiopian forces and fighters from the northern Tigray region, which have killed thousands of people in a year of war. The U.S. this week urged its citizens in Ethiopia to “leave now,” saying there should be no expectation of an Afghanistan-style evacuation.

Israel returns wrong body to family of slain Palestinian
Israeli soldiers on Friday went to return the remains of a Palestinian teenager who was killed in October while allegedly throwing firebombs in the occupied West Bank, only to be told by the family that it was the body of someone else.

UK outlaws Hamas as terrorist organization
UK Home Secretary Priti Patel has acted to proscribe the Palestinian group Hamas “in its entirety,” stating that it has significant capacity to carry out terrorist acts and has facilities to train attackers. In a tweet on Friday, Patel stated that she had banned the Palestinian group Hamas and designated it a terrorist organization, as she reiterated the British government’s commitment to “tackling extremism and terrorism wherever it occurs.”

Lords urged to act by campaigners to protect renters from sexual predators
PREDATORY landlords are advertising rooms in exchange for sexual favours instead of rent, campaigners warned today, as they called on peers to change the law to protect those at risk. Generation Rent said that a search on the Craigslist website had uncovered landlords around England offering accommodation for free, but with a different “payment” expected.
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Biden-Xi summit: An impotent gesture before the danger of war
>The summit was an impotent, ritualized gesture, mouthing phrases of restraint and conducting diplomatic maneuvers, as the ruling classes stumble headlong towards war.

"Capitalist economy is an integrated global whole, but the capitalist class exercises its rule through the nation-state. The drive to war expresses the struggle by rival capitalist nations to redivide the global economy by military means."

A very succinct statement of the contradictions of global capitalism. I wish I'd seen this statement some years ago when I was tying to understand Marxism. It is clearer than the usual "division of the world into rival nation states" version.

The other point that clearly comes out of the perspective is that "socialism with Chinese characteristics", ie Maoism under capitalist restoration, has no answer to prevent war. The only progressive force for social change is the working class itself and workers must learn this essential fact before their struggle against the ruling elite and the capitalist system can succeed.
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There will never be a real coruscant

A city with a population of 1 trillion that was properly designed wouldn’t use up the entire planets volume or resources, a planet like coruscant would have a population in the quintillion’s at a bare minimum if it had the same population as your standard major American city, if there’s ever a future where cities ever feature population sizes as huge as coruscant it’s likely they’d feel more like Kowloon than whatever the fuck Hollywood rolled out with Star Wars simply because it’s cheaper, far less environmentally taxing, leaves up shit tons of land and brings the potential for way more potential residents than coruscant.

All in all Star Wars is shit and sci fi is for nerds
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Are there any differences between those two? Both claim to be different from the other, but both seem to be fundamentally the same.

The left one keeps claiming they are closer to anarchism than anyone else, and some seem to consider themselves as Marxists and that it's what is meant by the last stage of capitalism, but I can't tell the difference. They both seem like jokes to me.
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In speech before the court, Trotskyist leader indicts German state’s revival of Nazi-style anti-socialist laws
>Christoph Vandreier, the deputy chairman of the Socialist Equality Party, defended the right to advocate for the socialist transformation of society in a speech at the Berlin Administrative Court on November 18.

A sadly predictable state of affairs. Yet there is no other Party that will make a stand for the democratic rights of the working class . The vast majority of the world population and its right for emancipation from a system that is now strangling people and Planet to death.

Well done SGP and well done Christoph for a superbly crafted defence and retort.
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Red Notice

Red Notice

For those of you who haven't seen this movie, it's the latest edition of Hollywood's downward slide. In the last 10 years there has been an ever increasing trend to make sequels and reboots of old movies from the 1970s/80s in particular. Hollywood was like a band entering the "greatest hits album" phase of it's lifecycle.

Now we are entering the postmodern-collage phase of Hollywood movies, where instead of just remaking a movie, all their movies are a combination of previous movies. Red notice is a combination of cliches and easter eggs including references to Pulp Fiction and Indiana Jones, the movie itself is like someone put a bunch of spy/heist cliches into a blender and vomited it out. The Rock is the same guy he plays in every movie, a tough cop. Ryan Reynolds reanimates his deadpool persona, making half funny wisecracks, and Gal Gadot, a charismaless actor barely above the tier of an early will smith, is there too.

Instead of seeing the 2010s as "the era of TV/netflix", we will see it as a turning point where people stopped giving a shit about movies altogether.

the only question is why the capitalist movie industry is so unbelievably bad at making movies.
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Demoralization is a form of information warfare in which an attempt is made to erode the unity, the will to fight and the belief in own goals for a group of people, a nation or the like. In this way, its ability to resist is sought to be weakened so that it may even surrender to its enemy without mental and / or physical struggles. Already Sun Tzu wrote that the best skill in warfare is not a hundred victories in a hundred battles, but defeating an enemy without a battle.
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ecology/climate change thread

a thread to discuss anything on your mind related to the interconnected crisis of the three

I've been thinking about the viability of nuclear power
I am unconvinced that solar and wind are viable options for 100 % of the grid 100% of the time, anti nuclear types always say solar and wind is cheaper but they don't seem to account for storage costs, forgetting about money, solar power has a energy return on investment that is a lot lower than nuclear, storage has energy losses, requires rare earth minerals in many cases and in the case of battery storage we don't have enough lithium to that for more than a few decades (if that), and living next to a giant storage battery seems like a something that could be extremely dangerous (you are betting your life on alkali metal staying separate from the moisture in the air).

but at the same time
no reactor can be completely immune to accidents, the cost of those accidents is the affected area could become unlivable for many life times, if nuclear is the main power source for all or most countries at least someone somewhere will cut corners.

I've read articles that state that our proven uranium reserves amount to little more than five years worth at 100% nuclear,
things like thorium, breeder reactors (is every country having plutonium a good thing?) and seawater uranium extraction either have big problems or a just things that might happen, can we bet everything on solutions that aren't yet proven?
what do you guys think?
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Lenin was a dumbass. Imperialism isn't the highest stage of capitalism. Monopoly capital was just a specific historical phase of capital, one that doesn't exist anymore. It's really cringe when people talk about "imperialism" like it's still 1904.
Did this fucking retard even read Hegel? Doesn't he know that capitalism is itself a dialectic, which can never have a true end or "highest stage"?
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The Modern Education System Needs a Total Makeover

The modern way we teach and educate the next generation is fucking retarded and needs to change. Here are some of my thoughts/ideas what do you guys think?

1. The price this is obvious, education shouldn't be something the citizenry is paying out of pocket for. Educating your citizens is an investment in your own people. There is no way it costs tens of thousands of dollars to sit in a room and listen to some jerk off professor. The teachers make too much and some not enough (some like uni professors and administrators while normal elementary teachers get shafted) Administrators and HR and all that staff needs to be downsized massively they are literally not needed. Making profit of education should be illegal and punishable by death.

2. Stop the current obsession with marks and points. I don't mean this from a progressive marking students is racist/oppressive stand point. I mean restricting students and making it harder to get education/training by gatekeeping shit behind marks especially when this sometimes requires high marks year after year to get into that special program/school. we should focus more on each individual program having a smaller prerequisite requirement and with options to fast track prerequisite courses quickly and cheaply. education needs to be more focused instead of broad.

3.More time focused on technical training and on the job training for jobs instead of wasting time on broad overall study of various disciplines. There is no point to be teaching every student a little bit of various different subjects if said student is not interested/adept at that particular discipline some students are not good at or interested/adapt at science or math. schooling should be tailored to students strengths.

4. Free speech needs to be protected by law on campuses. SJW's and the safe space crowd is starting to regress academic thought and its getting absurd. Just watch some cringe videos on American campuses and its fucking embarrassing some of the shit they are teaching these kids. its lets stuff like this that lets embarrassments like this happen.


these girls should be ridiculed not be given trophies for absolute garbage but we all know why they get treated this way and it needs to stop its getting preposterous
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Isn’t it kinda crazy that our species has been around for 200-300,000 years and the Holocene epoch itself has been going on for roughly 12,000 years?
That’s one hell of a time abyss, yeah?
And that’s just the blink of an eye to the Earth
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YQ: Yokel Question

Why are ruraloid yokels so reactionary on both social and economic issues? Why do rural people prefer the bourgeious to the urban proletariat, and will they ever change their ways? Or do they have to be moved into cities to become fully proletarian?
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You All Need to Hear This


This is a podcast episode which talks about the Kellogs strike in Omaha.

It gives a very good assessment of why unions are so important for class consciousness.

Specifically for this board, listen to the parts which talk about how union consciousness cuts through idpol.

It doesn't matter what colour you are when the boss is fucking you over, the boss doesn't care unless they can use it as a mechanism to divide you.

The only way to stay undivided is to be part of a disciplined union.

Pay attention to the section which talk about bikers blocking scabbing workers from entering the factory.

I feel like many simply do not understand union politics, this is why.

It is important that you listen to this podcast episode, but this isn't just a thread for that, this is a thread for promoting trade unionism in the context of a unified working class
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Ahmaud Arbery


>The racially charged case of three men accused of killing a black jogger last year in the US state of Georgia has drawn national attention. The community at the heart of the incident is on tenterhooks as the trial nears its end.

>Ahmaud Arbery was shot on 23 February 2020 in a confrontation with Gregory and Travis McMichael. It took more than two months for the men to be arrested, along with the neighbour who filmed the death.

>Lawyers for Mr Arbery's family have called his death a "modern-day lynching". The McMichaels argue that they were defending themselves while trying to make a "citizen's arrest".


>A 36-second clip filmed from a vehicle following Mr Arbery surfaced publicly on 5 May 2020.

>It shows Mr Arbery trying to bypass a pickup truck ahead of him on the road and then struggling with a man carrying a shotgun. There is muffled shouting and three gunshots are heard.

>A second man with a pistol, who was standing in the bed of the pickup, is then seen standing alongside the other armed man with the jogger no longer in view.

>During the trial, the site's owner, Larry English Jr, testified that the man in question had not disturbed or damaged his property during the visit.

>Mr English said cameras had spotted other people - including children and a white couple - trespassing on his property, but he never authorised the McMichaels to enter his property or confront anyone.

>Jurors were also shown bodycam footage of the armed McMichaels searching for a suspected burglar at Mr English's property 12 days before the jogger was killed.

>Police records show one report of theft in the neighbourhood between 1 January and 23 February 2020, US media report. That incident involved Travis McMichael's pistol going missing from the family's unlocked pickup truck on 1 January.
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Support Alabama Mine Workers

Should leftypol donate to the Alabama Miner's strike fund?


>Over 1,100 union coal miners in Brookwood, Alabama, have been on an unfair labor practices strike against Warrior Met Coal… workers and their families have been holding the line, demanding to get back what was stolen from them with their last contract, demanding to actually have time to spend with their families, demanding to be treated with the respect they deserve for making this mine more productive than ever. The UMWA’s strike motto is ​“One day longer, one day stronger,” and workers are showing no signs that they plan to back down.
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Another UAW executive charged with stealing dues money, as union announces “re-vote” on defeated Deere contract
>Every additional indictment and conviction only confirms what workers already know, that the UAW is organized and run by an apparatus that benefits from workers’ exploitation, takes bribes from the companies and exists for the sole purpose of suppressing the class struggle.

The UAW has become the epitome of corruption and mismanagement in every respect. For this reason the buildup of independent rank and file factory and workplace committees has become a necessary act under these conditions rather then a mere proposition.