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Will work be mandatory under socialism?I can see how having a "he who does not work shall not eat" rule might be necessary in desperate times, like during a war or a famine, but it doesn't seem like it would be necessary during times of prosperity. Additionally, making it so that people have to work in order to survive makes it easier for exploitative labor relations to exist, as people may find that entering into such labor relations is the only way they can survive.
/dprk/ -- DPR Korea GeneralThread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.&
Why do people hate george orwell?People call him a traitor, but who did he betray exactly?
/pol/ Why is anyone taking /pol/ seriously?Here is the question:
Working Class vs PMCOne little-known element of that gap is that the working class resents professionals but admires the rich. Class migrants (white-collar professionals born to blue-collar families) report that “professional people were generally suspect” and that managers are college kids “who don’t know shit about how to do anything but are full of ideas about how I have to do my job,” said Alfred Lubrano in Limbo. Barbara Ehrenreich recalled in 1990 that her blue-collar dad “could not say the word doctor without the virtual prefix quack. Lawyers were shysters…and professors were without exception phonies.” Annette Lareau found tremendous resentment against teachers, who were perceived as condescending and unhelpful.
WEST ASIA GENERALThread on one of the most unstable parts of the world.
Leftist Fyre FestivalSo Gazi's group "Black Hammer" managed to raise $64,632 so he can build his own fruity little village for "colonized people" and now claims to have bought 200 acres with it. You'd have trouble buying 20 acres in Asscrack, Montana for $65k, but Gazi supposedly found someone willing to sell him 200 acres for less than $65k, because the $65k is supposed to cover all the costs of building his town, not just buying the land. One wonders that, even with 100% volunteer labor, how many buildings, roads, etc Black Hammer could be able to build with a measly $65k.
2021 Peru Elections General>Pedro Castillo and Verónika Mendoza signed a joint declaration on Wednesday sealing Mendoza's support for Castillo going into the Presidential runoff election. They also agree to work together in order to "achieve a government of the people."
News 5/7/21Israel forces kill two Palestinians at West Bank checkpoint
Rojava General 2.0Thread to discuss that on going situation in Rojava and wider Kurdistan in an informative and positive manner.
r/RedScarePod>"The Ideal Male Living space"
BLACK HAMMER FTWTOUCH ONE
Noname tweets bringing out some weird attitude& it's worrying me. Can anyone tell me what the fuck is going on here?
/prc/ - People's Republic of China generalA general thread for all China related discussion.
Anarcho-TranshumanismIn the past few days I've seen more people posting with this flag. You better justify your little meme ideology right now, because it doesn't look like it has much meaning. How do Anarcho-Transhumanists wish to organize society? How does the state look like and function? How does the economy work? What's the underpinning philosophy? Or is it just a wishful "le I never asked for this Adam Jensen" Deus Ex larp?
Why are American pigs so bad?I know there are other cop related threads up but this one has a more targeted question. Why are American cops among the most brutal? Every day you see a new video of them pile driving an elderly woman into the ground or unloading clips into a black man or snapping a mentally disabled person’s arm. In almost no other part of the world, and certainly not in rich countries, are the police this violent or imperious.
I find myself in confusion rather than angerThroughout my life living ghetto I came to form feelings of confusion at criminal culture and society as a whole. Most criminals choose to engage in criminal activity yet despise integration into society rather than to say that their socioeconomic upbringing dictates their future throughout their whole lives, I've seen Mexican and black gang members(and on 1 instance a group of single mothered asian thugs)prey and harass youth who ignore or reject gang life and the people who push said gang culture on youth I've observed to being less angry under the idea that they're "acting white" but more frustrated with the concept that those kids arent trying to actively destroy their communities. To compound my feelings of confusion I've also come to realize that it is actually alot easier for your average criminal to simply choose not to engage in violent activity and risk nothing even if they choose to not participate in society than spend years coordinating attacks, learning to use weapons and tools, risking their health in shootouts and their futures by getting themselves incarcerated while spending god knows how much on consumerism and equipment. I dont understand criminals nor do I understand criminal culture nor the purpose of it but why could I know I have an iq of 82 and live around white trash and spics, do you know anon?
Why did (almost) everyone hate Trump so much?I think it's pretty uncontroversial to say that, in the mind of the average American liberal, Donald Trump is basically the worst person since Hitler. But it wasn't just my libtard parents who felt that way; everyone from liberal politicians (and even some conservative ones like Bush and McCain) to the mainstream media to the FBI had it out for him. The question is: Why? Obviously, we as communists recognize Trump as a bourgeois, imperialist, reactionary force, but that can't be why he generated so much seething (since the aforementioned "establishment" groups have been happy to cheer on other bourgeois, imperialist, reactionary politicians). So what was different about the orange man? I've seen a few theories, but I haven't been completely persuaded by any of them.
Was Napoleon basically the Stalin of his era?This isn't a thread to shit on Stalin, quite the opposite. But rather was Napoleon simply the figurehead of a revolution with values that were over 100 years prior. With people at the time who were seriously claiming to be the inheritors of the Roman Empire (Holy Roman Empire and Russia) was his claim at being Emperor that outlandish?
New Multitude- For Leftypol, by Leftypol!Just want to revive the New Multitude thread. New Multitude has left wing perspective from all around the world and seeks contributions from anons too. Some articles are already written by anons. Send your thoughts and drafts to [email protected]
What country do you think looks most hopeful for communism right now?Title
PROGRAMMERSWhy does mainstream culture jerk off programmers so hard? Every mainstream outlet, politician, corporation, exalts being a programmer over almost everything else (and STEM generally)?
Colombia Protest ThreadOngoing protests in colombia, things seem to be getting extremely violent.
Taxing MoneroHow could Monero holdings and transactions be taxed? Transaction recipients and amounts are encrypted, senders are obfuscated using ring signatures. Even a state like China could not stop people from connecting to Monero nodes and making transactions, because there isn't a fixed set of IP addresses running Monero nodes, and stuff like VPNs and Tor exist.
Democratic Republic of AfghanistanGive me your redpills, resources, books on Socialist Afgahnistan. From what I've seen so far, this was one of the biggest shitshows in communist history:
I made a thread on the shithole that is Kohlchan int.It's a board full of /pol/tards and pedos. The two usually go together lol. I made them a special thread in anticipation for the weekend when we can celebrate the 76th anniversary of the victory against fascism.
/log/ Lefty Org General - Uncle Gus EditionFeel like shit, just want him back lads.
Austin May Day rally - check it out!https://tribuneofthepeople.news/2021/05/04/austin-revolutionaries-celebrate-may-day-with-combative-march-clash-with-police/
Is the LTV even necessary to demonstrating Labor's right to the Earth?I know the LTV is an important part of Marx's theory of exploitation and demonstrating the theft of surplus value by the capitalist, but is it necessary for most people to accept labor's right to the world? It seems like most people were swayed by the realization that labor is this kind of ultimate force that nothing can be created without and since they are laborers they hold a technical monopoly over it.
On /pol/tards,Deradicalization and debateSo it seems the raids triggered by the Do$$lars Foreign policy article are coming to an end and most of the /Pol/tards are self-deporting from this site. I think the question of whether debates are any good should be analysed.
==Hilo general Latinoamérica--LatAm general thread==Considerando la gran cantidad de habla que se ha generado de paises como Brasil, Venezeula, Bolivia, etc (y la ausencia de un hilo como este) he decidido hacer esto. En lo que se pobla de noticias, tópicos y otras cosas esto puede s er un AMA y tengo excusa para usar mi grado en historia puertorriqueña, caribeña y americana en buen uso. Tambien consideren esto un refugio para hablar español
woke CIAGuys, I think I just discovered the worst thing ever. The CIA is getting woke. Now they aren't just for mormons or anglo white guys who went to Yale/Harvard, they're for neoliberal latina girlbosses who #leanin while plotting coups.
Liberation TheologySince most of the ideologies (even rightoid ideologies) have their own threads, how about we have a thread for one of our lesser known flags, Christian Anarchism/Communism. Not many people know this, but Christ/the Buddha was effectively one of the first anarchists ever since the creation of class hierarchies cast mankind out of pre-fall communism and into the fallen world of class society. As the deceiver of mankind, destroyer of the world, oppressor of humanity, and consumer of life, Capital reveals itself as the force known as Satan, whose personification appears currently as the American Empire and the world order it reigns over. As communists and anarchists fight for liberation and life, they are clearly bound in a holy struggle to save humanity’s soul, which is also why prior to the postmodern anti-thought communists were willing to die for what they believe in.
/mtw/ - Maoism Third Worldism generalThis is a thread to discuss Maoism Third Worldism, the only form of socialism that recognizes that the First World is hopelessly mired in reaction and that revolution can therefore only come from the Third World. Question: When did you first realize that Maoism Third Worldism is correct?
Why do liberals insist that the Holocaust was the greatest crime in human history?>Bring up European/American extermination of indigenous populaces of the Americas
What is it with the online far right and their fascination with gore?I remember when I used to browse /pol/ there would be daily gore threads with the most vile sentiment. Most vile because no longer were anons shitposting about uyghurs and other minorities in the abstract, now you had gory imagery that was the culmination of their fantasies. Now you had human beings being stripped of their humanity right before your eyes. A far right murder simulation if you will. Chinese workers dying in work accidents, Mexican cartel executions, worldwide police thuggery… It was the kind of stuff that would make even the most milquetoast leftist want to bring back gulags. Websites dedicated to gore too, such as Liveleak, hosted a far right audience judging from the comments sections. This is clearly something that interests a certain reactionary part of the internet populace… Why is that?
Current communist musicIn this thread post communist music that have been made in the last year.
Extinction Rebellion & the green movementsIs Extinction Rebellion in any way salvagable?
What does leftypol think of Michel Foucault?I haven't read any of his work, but he seems to have been one of the more important leftist intellectuals of the second half of the 20th century. Considering his importance, I find it rather odd that leftypol never seems to talk about him.
An Age of DiscordIn 2010 A paper was published which predicted widespread unrest in western Europe and the USA, 10 years later it was vindicated. So what exactly were they doing? and why am I telling you this? Let's find out.
The Trial of Derek Chauvin and the killing of George FloydToday is the first day of the Trial. It begins at 9am CST.
Donbass War General 4, Who will cuck out?>Military build-up in the Donbass on both sides continues
Anarchism General 2.0 - Anprim EditionThread for the discussion of Anarchism.
CPUSA 2045Can anyone explain the white genocide to me?
The shinning PathRedpill me about this group
bottom textWhy is it so hard to believe that many CIA members/politicians are normal people like the rest of us and, just like the rest of us, use social media and have unironic beliefs
New WEBM Thread - Dump your folder editionThe other one is full.
ReligionHow can religion be replaced with a more secular and scientific alternative?
WriterSometimes I get so blackpilled about the idea of socialism that the idea of barbarism winning seems more likely. Part of me secretly wants to fuck off my job, take a ton of drugs, and become a doomer eco-cyberpunk writer making short stories and maybe some novels while listening to depressive electronic music.
Politicak FreaksWhy do narcicistic freaks exist in the most extreme points of the political espectrum
News 5/6/21DOJ THREATENED MIT RESEARCHERS WITH SUBPOENA IN COLLABORATION WITH BOLIVIAN COUP REGIME
Labor AristocracyA capitalist takes $21 to pay for one hour of labor from worker A at $1/hr and one hour of labor from worker B for $20/hr. The end result is a commodity which the capitalist sells for $36, yielding a profit of $15. In this case, labor in its abstract (or ‘socially necessary’) form creates $18/hr in value (the full value of the commodity ($36), divided by the two hours which produced it), and this represents the value of labor.
TruthIn 2013, an employee for the defense contractor Booz Allen Hamilton named Edward Snowden revealed to the world that the National Security Agency, an intelligence agency of the United States, was using digital mass surveillance techniques on every digitally connected American citizen and indeed, adult human on planet earth. For me this was a shock. I had been raised to believe that America was the ‘home of the free’ and that our constitutional civil liberties meant that we were entitled not to be spied upon by ‘our own’ government. Surveilling your own citizens is what the ‘bad guys’ and dictators did. Yet, here was the American government doing, basically the same thing. And the reaction of the country was essentially a big fat shrug. 80% of the population didn’t give a shit. A neverending chorus of Senators and government officials made the rounds on television to condemn Snowden as a traitor. In the end, some tech companies upgraded some encryption standards, but overall nothing fundamentally changed.
It's Your Birthday Today (Hooray)Great teacher, birthday fun! On May 5, 1818, Karl Marx was born in the German town of Trier. But Marx belongs to no single nation and not only to the past – he also belongs to the future. Post your fun birthday wishes and pics of flower baskets to honor Marx, one of my personal favorite guys
On internet socialist presence and it's dynamicsHow important is Internet presence, and how does it relate to material politics?
Whould subcultures return?With the rise of the internet young kids mostly waste their life on the internet ,back in the day we had working class kids calling themselves metalheads,punks,skins,rockbillies,freaks,rockers,rudeboys,hiphopers etc
Take the JUST PillReject matrimony, embrace divorce.
Debunking /Pol/ race "science"So one of the main reasons /pol/tards are so resistant to Marxist ideas is the fact that they believe in race realism and similar "scientific" ideas. I will attempt to debunk three of the most crucial race realist tenets in this thread.
News 5/5/21City Offers Homeless One-Way Travel Ticket to Europe if They Sign Contract to Never Return
Soviet Wars 1917-1923(31)A million sides, constant changes of allies, a bunch of events - sort of the First World War in the South, in the Crimea and in the Urals, the latest fleet operations against the Germans and the Entente in the Baltic, literally Syria in the Ukraine, the Red Army attacking British tanks with bayonets near Arkhangelsk, the Wild West with Basmachi in Central Asia, Latin American partisanship in Siberia, White Genghis Khan is plotting something, White Czechs are fleeing from the Red Czechs with tsarist gold, finally the fight against anti-Soviet uprisings and simply hellish gang violence.
Africa GeneralAs asked by these users
Yugoslav partisan warThis issue is rarely discussed and I have many questions about it.
Vegans BTFOWatch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGG-A80Tl5g
Is China really planning to invade Taiwan?I keep hearing news about how China is allegedly plotting to invade Taiwan. China does have some historical claims to the island, but it seems like it would be very risky for them to try to invade them. I suspect the news could just be CIA propaganda to justify aggression towards China, but I could be wrong. That said, do you think China is planning to invade Taiwan in the not to distant future? Why or why not? Provide relevant sources, if possible.
Organizing for LeninistsHow do we organize under a Vanguard, in let's say Britain, America, or France. They can just ban it outright if we cause too much trouble. Thing is with groups like Antifa, you can't really "ban" it, because it's not a party, or a group you can "join", it's just people who dress up in black clothing and go to protests with each other. But with a Vanguard it's different, it's a party with an organizational structure, etc. So how do we organize with this?
OC Thread 9.0Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
/auspol.org/ - Australia GeneralThread dedicated to the discussion of Australian politics and events.
My Socialist-Realist Critique of Marxism (using some of Marx's own premises)I consider myself to be a socialist and greatly influenced by Marx, but I have the following critique of Marxism (or at least my interpretation of it). I'm not from /pol/, in fact I've been on /leftypol/ since the 8ch days. Here is my critique:
A Universal TruthPolitical and societal change can't be achieved in a democratic society as public opinion can easily be shaped by academia and media. The human brain is wired to trust authority. Most believe in what they are taught regardless if it's the truth. That's what makes humans a flawed species.
May the real MLs please stand upWhat is the ML (anti-revisionist) take on unions? Do they
Thought Exercise: Alternate Names for Communist MovementsSo what's striking to me in a lot of the non-anarchist communist movement is the amount of significant movements and forms of thought that are named for their theoretical founders. Marxism, Leninism and Maoism first and foremost, but also lesser known strands where liberal accusations of a "cult of personality" are even less likely are subject to this phenomenon: Bordigism, Hoxhaism, Titoism and, depending on who you ask, Stalinism.
Entertaining Wikipedia FindsShare Wiki articles or quotes that you found amusing, interesting, weird, etc with your comrades in this thread so that they can share in your amusement, interest, bewilderment, etc.
WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THIS?Opening a separate thread instead of posting this in the Latin America one because i believe it warrants a discussion among anons.
western "socialists"I find it interesting that in the west, socialists who are anti tankie almost always prefer the bourgeois dictatorship. I don't know if this is because they just immediately think of the Soviets or they don't know that this includes many things from law to police suppression of uppity capitalists and their expropriation through policies.
Laughing Horse's Orifice Headquartershttp://lhohq.info/index.html
/USApol/ United States PoliticsTHE CONSEQUENCES WILL NEVER BE THE SAME EDITION
Voices of powerEver stop to listen to the voices of the most powerful people in the 20th century? Here are a few:
To own the libs>eating sushi to own the libs
Market Socialism from the Microeconomic POVWhy do people ignore the microeconomic factors of market socialism? It's always about Tito or Deng or the IMF
US seen as bigger threat to democracy than Russia or China, global poll findshttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/05/us-threat-democracy-russia-china-global-poll
/SEA/ - Southeast Asia GeneralVolume 4: Finally some actual riots edition
Technology matters dialectics don'tTechnology is what drives social, political and economic change. Society becomes more liberal and degenerate BECAUSE of technology, individualism is the essence of this change, everything we see happening now is just people becoming more individualistic, thinking more of themselves and their own interests than the interests of their community or folk. This was possible only thanks to the mass production of goods which liberated people from the burden of agrarian society, suddenly you didn't have to own a farm and have a huge family, you didn't have to know the baker or the tailor, because some machine (although handled increasingly less by human beings) thousands of miles away will make everything you need to survive.
Engels: against looting"Of course you know what a meeting at 3pm in Trafalgar Square consists of: masses of the poor devils of the East End who vegetate in the borderland between working class and Lumpenproletariat, and a sufficient admixture of roughs and 'Arrys to leaven the whole into a mass ready for any "lark" up to a wild riotà propos de rien [about nothing]. Well, just at the time when this element was getting the upper hand (Kautsky who was there says das eigentliche Meeting war vorbei, die Keilerei ging los und so ging ich weg [the meeting proper was over, the brawling broke out and so I made off]), the wiseacres above named took these roughs in procession through Pall Mall and Piccadilly to Hyde Park for another and a truly revolutionary meeting. But on the road the roughs took matters into their own hands, smashed club windows and shop fronts, plundered first wine stores and bakers' shops, and then some jewellers' shops also, so that in Hyde Park our revolutionary swells had to preach "le calme et la modération"! While they were soft-sawdering, the wrecking and plundering went on outside in Audley St and even as far as Oxford St where at last the police intervened.
America: what is to be done?Introduction
The politics.of futurtechAs tech increases the power of the state yo properly enforce its will on the individual decreases.
Tankies Are GlowiesYou guys do not seem to understand how CIA plants work. Any time someone argues against tankoid bullshit they get called a glowie. But the reality is that the purpose of CIA plants is to blend in and uncover informatiom from the inside; glowies are never going to disagree with you. They also try to turn off people from the ideology by being the most ridiculous strawmen possible, which is an apt description of many online MLs. Ergo, the people online simping hard for China, Stalin, NK, etc., and calling you a glowie for having the basic geopolitical sense to not side with everyone that happens to oppose the US, is probably a glowie. Speaking frankly, what's made me closer to recanting Marxism than any liberal anti-communist arguments is MLs claiming a monopoly on Marxism and then arguing in defense of dystopias. That's likely by design; many of the people doing that are likely CIA plants who want to dissuade me from Marxism.
Escaping CensorshipThe tech media monopolies have been ramping up attacks on independent news media ever since the US capital riots, but they have really escalated censorship the last few days. Grayzone story getting tagged by Twitter as "material that may have been obtained through hacking", Analysis.news getting a video about the lack of police presence during the riots flagged by Youtube for spreading misinformation about election fraud, and Consortium News getting a video taken down for talking all about voter suppression.
DEBRIEFING: The Man Who Sold the WorldTL;DR: bunkerchan is no more, any obligations newsanon or other anons had to consider for both sites are lifted.
News 5/4/21France to sell Egypt 30 fighter jets in $4.5 bln deal -Egyptian defense ministry, report
The Internet Doesn't Matter: A copeFor all those anons who say that it doesn't matter that the left is irrelevant online or at the very least weak compared to the neoliberals, conservatives, and radlibs, socdems, and left anti communist etc. The internet IS important, and saying otherwise is a massive cope.
the islamic worldwhat is the marxist explanation for the fall of the islamic world out of relevancy after the 16th century?
Predictions for the state of the world in the next decade?Interested in opining how the world might look by 2030
theanarchistlibrary.org is just simply ridiculousI remember back in the day when I was introduced to anarchism I asked around for reading material. Basically there were four kinds of answers: "read the classics" ('kunin, 'potkin, Goldman, etc.), "read stuff from libcom.org" (for that sweet leftcom USSR crit.), "read contemporary theory" (theanarchistlibrary, CrimethInc.), or just "pretend to read" (AnarchistFAQ). Now obviously the best sounding answer to anyone is the contemporary shit. How exciting it is that anarchism is a living, breathing political tradition and to this very day new and valuable insights are being unearthed – or so I thought.
Thoughts on the Edelweiss pirates?They seem like the closest thing to armed resistance to Hitler's regime
One month after schools reopened, Pennsylvania enters fourth surge of pandemichttps://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2021/04/20/penn-a20.html
Any restaurant workers here?Hopefully there are. (I know from experience that there are.) Please indicate in your response(s) that you are from the industry or not.
Getting rid of white people as means of getting rid of hierarchy.The natural state of white people is slavery. Not of slaver, of the slave– the trans-Atlantic slave trade was one of the biggest projection copes in history. Why? Well, examining history, you see that white people have always been slaves, more than Africans, or any race for that matter, whites have always been slaves to their kings, their feudal lords, (now) their bosses, (now) desires they can't control (porn addiction, etc.).
Pol Pot and the Khmer RougeJust finished reading Pol Pot's Monarchy or Democracy (https://www.marxists.org/archive/pol-pot/1952/00001.htm), from this work and from what I know about him pre-1970s he seemed very promising, what the fuck went wrong?
MaoThe Cultural Revolution was good, right? To what extent could amerika undergo a similar situation, and is it undergoing such a thing right now?
Hitler-Stalin contractLately I've gotten into an argument with a friend of mine about the USSR's role in WW2, especially the splitting up of Poland. He argues that the USSR collaborated with nazi germany in taking over Poland and also started resisting the bazi war effort way too late.
Lefties swallowed up by NGOs - two case studies and commentary from Eastern-EuropePerson A
Amazon and MarketsI have a theory about how Amazon could destroy capitalism from within. Because no one will publish my Unabomber-tier ramblings I'm posting it here.
News 5/3/21Peru Leftist Candidate Pledges to Seize Foreign Company Profits
How did capitalism fuck up your hobbyHow did capitalism fuck up your hobby ?
On Islam (and any other traditional ideologies)Read before you delete please.
News 4/28/21France arrests seven Italians convicted of far-left terrorism
What even IS capitalism?More often than not, I find capitalism conflated with free-markets on either sides.
brain chip lacrimosathe left really need to take a stance on technology that doesn't default to the freefall of capitalist liberalism that is taking us all down with it. real regulations on technology and social media that allow us to maintain stability and enjoyment in society. I'm not some tyrannical social engineer here either, I am just a concerned human. we are becoming more unfree every time we go on twitter or watch random youtube videos. is there anyone who is sane and healthy who disagrees that we need to stop spending so much time in the fake digital world?
How do I deradicalize myself?Whats up faggots, I used to an unironic nazi and while on a rational level I have realized there is no conspiracy of da joos working to fuck white people over (even if they are overrepresented in the media and in fields that fuck over the working class) my lizard brain is having a much harder time stopping the anti-semitism. I even have working class jewish friends now so I know its all bullshit, but I'll click a link to some inane idpol nonsense I see on stupidpol, see the authors name, and if it's jewish author (after several years of being an anti-semite I've gotten very good at identifying jews by phenotype as well as name) will always be
European Super LeagueThe top clubs in England, Spain and Italy have signed up to form a European Super League in a shameless attempt to chase more dollarydoos.
Repeating LeninAll of you need to read this
Declining Reproductive healthhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7u1-yBq2iE
OJ man vs SJWSCan we agree that the "Social justice warriors" were actually mostly right?
Liberal Hate Threadgo to redd, come back with a quote or picture that makes you want to enact the final solution to the liberal problem in Europa Universalis IV.
The true meaning of "Let despair strengthen you"1) All existence is either despair that ultimately kills the ego or despair that strengthens those egos it is unable to kill.
BakuninIs he as big as an idiot as people often make him out to be. His antisemitism is inexcusable but I feel like people overlook him because of it. His criticism of religion being an inherently an authoritarian belief is pretty on point. Secondly he shows that anarchists not inherently against authority. He also agreed with Marx on the nature of capitalism and praised his Das Kapital as being very good.
The leftist prepper threadAs you may have certainly noticed, late stage Capitalism is upon. Conditions globally are degrading, and the people are getting restless due said lacking conditions.
political correctnesswhat IS political correctness? is it just "progress" like the libs would have us think? and if that's the case then how does PC persist in the face of the same issues we've always had like war and exploitation? now i'm not being rhetorical here, i am very interested in what this is all about. i understand that the intellectual/theory side of things since the 60s has become much about language and discourse and this has undoubtedly influenced the creation of political correctness, so is PC just another part of the leftist tradition? i know there are anti-pc leftists but can we really say that it is secretly the right that is promoting this stuff? i dont think so.
THE FABLED FOREIGNPOLICY ARTICLEOH NO NO NO
AddictionWasn't sure where to put this thread, because /b/ seems more of a shitposting board. The thread doesn't fit into /hobby/ or the other ones either in my opinion. If this isn't appropriate here, feel free to move it to another board.
Leftypol has forgotten the truth, today I will remind them1. The Soviet Union was the guiding light and possibly last hope for the human race, the revolutionary beacon that inspired hope and courage in the colonized people and class conscious proletarians all around the world while also inspiring fear, loathing, and envy in the ranks of the imperialist warmongers, bourgeois parasites, and those brainwashed workers and peasants held under the deceitful sway of their bourgeois rulers; and of course the Soviet Union and its socialist allies inspired great envy and hatred within those cowardly perfidious “leftists” who sought to split the proletariat while at the same time presenting neither a program nor strategy nor attempt at liberation
Ecofascism is coming.There is a budding romance and rediscovery of the concrete unity of utilitarian ideologies growing with the onset of class schisms within both liberal and conservative parties; The neoconservative “regime change” factions of the ruling class, and ecologistic Malthusian Bill Gates types, are finding a home in the genocidal Nihilism of modern Nazism. The Biden administration seems to be laying the groundwork for a “climate campaign” AGAINST China in order to justify regime change and they will play into the hands of both ecologist liberals (AOC, Greta Thurnberg, other GND Dems) and the online Nazi community commited to the genocide of non-white peoples. Political alliances will be reshifting against the old liberal-conservative dichotomy in order to counter the increasing furvor of the working class. “China’s climate change” will be the “Jewish Bolshevism” of the 20th century as Western capitalists become increasingly wary of China’s strength and growth relative to them and resort to any means necessary to stop it, just as they did with the Soviet Union during the Great Depression.
Engels believed Slaves have "Slave Privilege" in comparison to the proletariatHe argues that the institution of Slavery is a welfare system for the Slave, and thus states that they can "have a better existence than the proletarian," despite the Proletariat having a higher social status.
Esoteric Hitlerism General: AFAP Edition (ALL FASCISTS ARE PEDOS)This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.
OC Thread 8.0Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
==The Weakspot of the Far-right?==So I read Far-right websites In order to develop strategy and tactics to better counter them, and to understand their worldview better. And one thing I noticed, which is a complete Blind spot of the Far-right, and that is to say a complete ignorance or dismissal of the Left. Let me elaborate by picking apart this article from the Influential Far-right rag Counter-currents.
>There are no Right-wing mainstream media in the USA and you wouldn’t get a job if you were even suspected of having conservative sympathies, particularly while white. Journalism has changed its requirements.
So like all the Right-wingers, he starts by ranting about the politics of the Media while not realising that the media at best is center-left and at worst reactionary.
>However, the plot thickens. Although the media is almost entirely under the control of the Left and their new cultural Marxist commissars, all is not well in the camp. The traditional media have been in gradual decline for some time in terms of sales (and thus advertising revenue), and this is beginning to accelerate. Many newspapers have not found the transition to an online format an easy one to negotiate, and TV ratings for some of the major news providers are, if not exactly in freefall, then on a downward glide.
What he says is true, however he's probably smacking his lips at all the people defecting to Alternate media which he imagines is staunchly right wing, now while that is partially true of YouTube other Alt media forms are mostly Leftist, like Podcasts, Twitch and certain Leftist Subreddits.
>It may be that consumers of news are becoming wary and weary of the new orthodoxies faithfully adhered to by journalists: the scriptural edicts of woke, constant anti-white rhetoric, globalism, LGBTQ, the sanctity of blackness, the COVID melodramatics, Islam and its many wonders (not so much the bombs and beheadings and so on), transgenderism and all the other grotesques at the Leftist carnival. The next year could be a defining moment in testing the credibility of the public across a hemisphere.
So in his Worldview, the actual left is not present(Or dead as we shall see later).
>t’s fine and dandy to be a firebrand Leftist online writer, fighting for social justice, “equity,” and the recognition of systemic racism. But it must be somewhat deflating to realize that you agree with the government. Aren’t you supposed to be against The Man rather than sitting on his knee? So, the rogue gene in the DNA of the Left is the paucity of their vision. Their motivating ideologies, such as they are, are now complete. We know where the Left is going because they already got there. Thus far and no further. They can’t. They have nowhere to go. They have set out their stall with such precision there is no longer any room for progress.
In this decaying neoliberal age, when all look for a new replacement order anti-establishment sentiment is very powerful, but here is the crux of the Far-rights blindness, they believe that it can only benefit them and that the Left(Cultural) has been fully co-opted, but they do not realise that the USA is still as imperialist as it was and anti-establishment sentiment belongs to the Left as much as the Right, As shown by the Evo coup.
>Stop me if you have heard this one before, but when Orwell (don’t worry; it’s not 1984) arrived in Spain to aid the fight against Franco, as chronicled in Homage to Catalonia, what appalled him in the first instance were not the appalling conditions or the slim chances of victory, but the squabbling and in-fighting between the supposed allies on the Communist side. Again, I have used this before, but it is a riff worth repeating, and Monty Python’s Life of Brian features briefly sums this up with the rift between the Judaean People’s Front and the People’s Front of Judea. The dissident Right is in a similar pickle, and for tawdry reasons.
Finally we see that the historical Left is dead in his mind and dead in the water to the Far-right as a whole. But as opposed to falling, the old left is rising.
<Inb4 Idpol ,most Left wing spaces online have improved very much in that regard, with Pedro Castillo even r/Socialism gave him unquestioned support.
In the final evaluation this weakness of believing that only they are capable of taking advantage of Anti-establishment sentiment, that their only enemies are liberals, that "cultural Marxists" are already in control, that they know almost nothing about actual Marxism and their elitism and disdain for politics that help people materially. Make the Far-Right very vulnerable to a growing Class-first Leftist movement
Fascism and The Promise of Obscene EnjoymentI know Zizek can at times be what amounts to a rambling, unfocused, "pop" philosopher, but I think this point in particular holds up with almost concerning accuracy. Something that always perturbed me, even in the back of my mind when I was immersed in the far-right, was how everything was constructed in a way which provided implicit "permission" to things which would otherwise be abhorrent to those who claim to want a "polite" and "moral" society. Perverse pronouncements of the need to rape and mutilate, depictions of civilians hung and disemboweled if for no other reason then the pleasure of the perpetrators committing it, and a view of the future which has them indulging in all the tactile and sensory experiences denied to them. And there was this rush to it, this need to "feel" more to an almost fanatical and excessive degree, to get that next dopamine hit from it all. Even the concept of family wasn't ever viewed as the shouldering of a responsibility, but as if it were some kind of fantastical get away vacation in which all the encumbering but necessary weight of that responsibility were magically whisked away, and it was all wheat fields with attractive people and handsome housing, a world of a never stalling fantastical emotional sensation. Even aesthetics whittled down to pleasure, and everything eventually devolved into what was sensual and sensuous, but with words that obfuscated that reasoning into concepts that appeared on the surface to be more "noble" in their content, like the subject of war. I don't think I'm the only one formally on the right who eventually saw that already thin layer become thinner and thinner, and people becoming more forward in what they actually desired, the dishonesty and artificialness of it all. Like none of it is real, and its all just a "rush" from start to finish until the high runs out and you need something more to latch on to. I think eventually you either become disgusted in that "high" and jump off, or throw yourself down the rabbit hole further looking for more of it, until it surrounds and immerses you. Like its suffocating you, but you can't stop, because there are ghosts to chase at every corner and a high to catch hold of from it all.
Hustle CultureIs this the most pathetic thing right now? Actively pushed by Neoliberal governments and quite readily absorbed by a very loud, disgusting minority. There are in general two categories of hustlers.
Policy ReminderReactionaries/Liberals are not permitted to derail threads–otherwise every thread devolves into the same argument. Rather, they are allowed to create a thread to argue their bullshit points.
1rs of May, day of the workersPREEMPTIVE THREAD TO THE 1ST OF MAY, DAY OF THE PROLETARIAT
Alt-Left:Red Painted FascistsDo you tired of leftists who have weirdo or schizo or bad takes? Such as namefags like "King Lear" or "Leninhat" or Caleb Maupin and among others ?
What happened to the pirates of the old Web?>pro free speech
Why is there no Eco-Anarchism flag on leftypol anymore?I remember back on bunkerchan, there was access to that flag. Now it seems to have been removed (besides a few other things have been added). The thing is, Eco-Anarchism is not the same as anarcho-primitivism, so the Eco-Anarchism flag should stay.
Does charity genuinely help people in any real way?I do food distribution every other Saturday and realistically I don’t feel like I’m doing a damn fucking thing, I mostly see the same people every time I go meaning their conditions in life have never improved anyway. Every time I go volunteers tell the people there “See you next Satuday”, I don’t understand why you’d say that if preferably those people would not be food insecure. Thoughts?
Religion is one of the most powerful forces on the planetMy definition of Religion is not just restrained to the "religious identity" slot like Catholic, Protestant, Muslim, etc which gets used today besides ethnic identities. This "identity slot" hasn't always existed. Ancient Celts didn't consider themselves Celts and totally separate from that also members of a "Celtic Religion". Indian Nationalists refuse to call Hinduism a religion, because for them it means being Indian. The British brought with them the concept that religion should be private. Publicly the Indians are British Subjects, but privately they can be Hindus.
IdpolPeople here have a great disdain for idpol here, and I think it that's coming from a misunderstanding of idpol. There are two different forms idpol, one seeks to become nothing else other than itself the other seeks to break away from itself and become something else entirely. The first form of idpol should be avoided as it seeks nothing other than a circle jerking of itself, while the second one seeks liberated itself from the shackles of the identity. An example of the first kind of idpol is that of white nationalism. White nationalists seek nothing other than celebrate their whiteness, their goal is nothing other than their whiteness. Another example of this is liberal feminism, what is distinct about liberal feminism is they self-perpetuate that women are lesser than men rather than escape the dichotomy.
Indian strain of coronavirusSo if I hear right, this virus is 2 times more contagious and also more deadly and alsp resistant to the vaccines developed, and that is going like wildfire through India which is supposedly underreporting it's casualties because of the state the country is in.
News May 1st, 20211,000+ join ‘Kill the Bill’ rally on May Day in London (VIDEO)
Leftypol.wiki started a few months agofeel free to add to our wonderful trove of knowledge
conspiracieswhat are some conspiracies that are popular in your contry and you believe in them?,today i found out some russian schizo communities believe that:
International May Day Online Rally 2021 - ICFI (2 hours+ ahead when posted)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R31eSiMu48g
Is Marxism Lovecraftian?Is Marxism Lovecraftian? There's a lot of similarities between Lovecraft's description of the Great Old Ones/ Outer Gods and Marx's description of Capitalism. Marx describes the forces of capital and the dialectic tensions within the capitalist mode of production as being this monstrous unstoppable force that consumes all with in its wake. And that the dialectical tensions that inherit to class societies are the main drivers of history and people are only shoved along its wake. While in Lovecraft The Great Old Ones/ Outer Gods influencing their control over the world with humanity being unable to stop them. Some quotes from the communist manifesto to illustrate my point.
Socialist media reports of the fall of the Eastern blocDoes anyone have news clips or digitized articles from Cuba, North Korea, China, Vietnam, etc. from around the time when the rest of socialist countries were reverting back to capitalism? Would be really interesting to see how they broke the news.
News 4/30/21China launches main part of its 1st permanent space station
Anyone pained by how retarded the working class is?I'm quick to advocate for a worker owned economy, but always wince when I listen to 90% of low income people. Anyone else?
Stupidpol expresses support for the cop that gunned down a 16 year old girlJust when I thought these reprehensible faggots couldn’t get any lower
Myanmar: Karen rebels seize army base near Thai border>The Karen National Union (KNU) on Tuesday attacked and seized a military outpost in eastern Myanmar, close to the border with northwestern Thailand.
We need a purge, old-BO styleI keep seeing pro-imperialist posts, obvious glowing and idpol hysteria.
Anti-Germans:WTF?!I just found those fuckers and who the hell they are ??
The Importance for the Electoral Left for Communists?Historically, whenever the electoral left(namely Social Democrats) have been strong, Communist Parties have been strong as well. So the question is now, in this era of darkest reaction, that we should give our votes to the electoral left in times of voting for a new parliament? This only applies ofcourse only when your domestic communist party is really too weak to make a difference.
LTV Cockshott and KlimanWhy are Cockshott and Klimans interpretations of LTV incompatible? Are they even mutually exclusive? It sounds like two people talking past eachother about the "correct" way to play with their favorite toy, they are both so focused on what they are doing they can't understand the other.
Debate is (almost) uselessDebate, especially youtube/twitch "debate" is fundamentally flawed because the audience has no media literacy. An expert paleontologist and a young earth creationist could stand on opposite sides (an extreme example). The format of internet debate falsely equalizes knowledge and ignorance, expertise and bullshit, thats why you have an academic economist with a phd and who went to Harvard, Princeton, and Yale debating a high school dropout Starcraft streamer.
More US police violence - Ma’Khia Bryant editionWhile you sheeple are celebrating the show trial that the media's distracting you with and Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are taking advantage by scoring political points, cops just killed another 15-year-old black girl.
/penguin general/remember back in bunkerchan that time we discussed autistically how to colonize antarctica and build a settelment there when things go bad in the world?,that was a really good thread
Vichy france and collaboratorswas the vichy regime and their collaboration justifiable or was it fascist opportunism, was there any other choice in what the vichy would/could given their circumstance should they have fought to the very end or would it end in the complete death of the french ?
muh "book club"This is the way an unprincipled leftist who is into pseudo-praxis reproaches actually based communist.
News 4/29/21Exit Polls Give Edge to TMC in Bengal, Big Win for DMK in TN, LDF in Kerala
Should we abolish states?I know traditional Marxist thought holds that the state will inevitably wither away once a higher stage of socialism/communism is achieved, but doesn't the rise of the administrative state suggest that the state should stick around even under communism? Like, how is a post-state communist society supposed to regulate pharmaceuticals?
'Trophy trees' are the new wealth status symbol: America's super rich are paying up to $250,000 to t>'Trophy trees' have become the new status symbol for America's uber-rich, with wealthy homeowners paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to have the prized plants shipped into their yards by helicopters, barges and flatbed trucks.
Lolberts and ancapsSo let me get this right
whats their fucking problem?is it just me or are there a lot of self-hating euro-larpers in this continent,hell i even recall back then when i was browsing 4chan's /pol/ and /int/ this happening:
Just curious..(pic is unrelated, just chose it bc fuck america))
Dr. Norman Bethunehttps://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-2/mswv2_25.htm
Is there a case for Nicolae Ceaușescu?Idk bros, seems corrupt and revisionist to me
Mark Levin: Liberals are MARXISThttps://youtu.be/n0zzh2rHl4A?t=260
Being Communist By Anti-Communismİs there any anon who had become communist by anti-communist propaganda? I used to see leftism as "old ideas that didn't work" but as i had face weirdo anti-communist propaganda by time,i started to realise that establishment fears.
Then what?Okay, trying to fix racism, sexism, etc within capitalism is futile and even counterproductive when it comes in the form of corporate co-opted liberal idpol. „The root of it all is class!“ Okay.. how exactly will socialism fix it then? Key word „exactly“? Will in your socialist utopia women no longer have to text their friends where they are when they go out with a guy, because they might get raped or murdered, as women disproportionally do at the hands of men? Will the KKK and other white supremacists disappear? Will all white people admit most confederate statues were erected in times where African Americans fought for their rights to spite them and therefore agree to remove them? Will Asian men never hear to have demeaning jokes about their penile size again? Will homosexuals and transgenders no longer be discriminated against or bullied into suicide? How?
George Bataille.Should i read the Accursed share / George Bataille?.