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Reading General:

Hello leftypol, we noticed an under-appreciation for the theory that upholds our political ideologies: As such, we have decided to revive the reading sticky! This thread will be dedicated to the sharing, discussing, and general banter about various leftist thinkers, theories, and political outlooks.

But, other than that, we believe there are other important reads that must be addressed, especially, for beginners and those just now getting into leftism.

Don't forget to check out >>>/edu/ for more reading and discussion!

Common Right Wing Talking Points Debunks

Check out the /edu/ thread at

Also see the relevant leftybooru tag
Add topics into the tag list to further narrow down your search!

Introduction to Marxism Reading List - Thanks to the /read/ matrix room (https://app.element.io/#/group/+leftyread:matrix.org)

Absolute Beginners Tier:

'Principles of Communism' by Friedrich Engels

'Three Source and Theree Component Parts of Marxism' by V.I. Lenin

Not a book but Halim Alrah's youtube channel is good for the absolutely basics of Marxism but obviously not a replacement for reading

Marx and Engles Reading List

Tier 1:

'Manifesto of the Communist Party'

'Critique of the Gotha Programme'

'Socialism: Utopian and Scientific'

Tier 2:

'Wage Labour and Capital'

'Value, Price and Profit'

'Theses on Feuerback'

By this point you should have a good understanding of the basics of Marxism and are ready to branch out to other theorists and also read Capital.

Tier 3:

'Capital vol.1'

Lenin Reading List - By Moo (aka Zizekposter)

Lenin Essentials:

'State and Revolution'

'“Left-Wing” Communism: an Infantile Disorder'

'Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism'

Petit Bourgeois Philistine Tier:

'What is to be done'

'The Proletarian Revolution and Renegade Kautsky'

'Two Tactics of Social Democracy in the Democratic Revolution'

ADHD Tier:

'Socialism and Religion'

'Zizek's Introduction to Revolution at the Gates'

'Revolutionary Adventurism'

MLM Reading List


Why MLM?

Marxism-Leninism-Maoism Basic Course

'Continuity and Rupture: Philosophy in the Maoist Terrain'


'On Practice & Contradiction'

'On Guerrilla Warfare'

'On Protracted War'


'Fanshen: A Documentary of Revolution in a Chinese Village'

'Red Star Over China' - Edgar Snow

'The Unknown Cultural Revolution' - Dongpin Han


Interview With Chairman Gonzalo

General line of the PCP

'Shining Path: Terror and Revolution in Peru' - Simon Strong


Operation “Green Hunt” in India

Eight Historic Documents (AZAD)

'Urban Perspective'


Araling Aktibista - Activist Study ARAK

'Stand for Socialism Against Modern Revisionism'

'Philippine Society and Revolution'
https://bannedthought.net/Philippines/CPP/1970s PhilippineSocietyAndRevolution-4ed.pdf

Political Economy:

'Rethinking Socialism' – Deng-yuan Hsu & Pao-yu Ching

'China: A Modern Social-Imperialist Power' - CPI(Maoist)

'Maoist Economics & the Revolutionary Road to Communism' - The Shanghai Textbook

Leftcom Reading Lists

r/marxism101's reading list:

r/bruhinternational's reading list:


'The Democratic Principle'

'Proletarian Dictatorship and Class Party'

'The Spirit of Horsepower'

'Report on Fascism'


'The Lyons Theses'

'Theory and Action in Marxist Doctrine'

'Dialogue with Stalin'


'World Revolution and Communist Tactics'

'Party and Class'

Herman Gorter:

'Open Letter to Comrade Lenin'

'The World Revolution'

Bookchin Reading Lists - based off of posts by Gorm1918 (pbuh)

'The Next Revolution'

'Urbanization Without Cities'

'The 3rd Revolution'

'The Ecology of Freedom'

Links to Resources and Libraries:

More Marx and Engels:


Other Selected Marxists:

Classical Works Recommended To High-Ranking Cadres:

Many important books can be found on libgen:

Libcom has some good books/documents:

Other links:

Various assortment of historical and biographical works:

The Leftist Bookshelf (4.16 GB, 600+ files)
This was originally a torrent but I can't find the link anymore. Its description was: "640 eBooks, mostly in PDF format (a bunch are CHM, DJVU or ePUB), from a revolutionary Leftist viewpoint. The main subjects are politics and philosophy, history, economics, and much much more."

Political Theory (MLM) (2.64 GB, 550+ files)
I found this on reddit years ago (circa 2016) Don't really remember who made it or where it came from, but this is a reading course (politics, philosophy, economics, etc) focused on Maoism. Has many books and articles on the USSR, PRC, Stalin, Mao, etc.

The Anarchist Library (669 MB, 4000+ files)
This is a complete mirror of the anarchist library with pdfs and epubs

Little Bunker of Marxism-Leninism (680 MB, 100+ files)
Unfinished project focused on M-L with more than 100 books on several topics like history, economics, politics, etc. Lots of stuff on the USSR.

Historical Materialism series (330 MB, 100+ files)
A pdf archive of over 100 books from the Historical Materialism book series. I got this from thecharnelhouse.org years ago and the website had released many marxist books from other publishers but unfortunately it's been taken down.

/leftypol/ with a slash of liberty (239 MB, 100+ files)
I didn't make this, just reuploading it. This is a classic /leftypol/ link, marxist stuff mixed with anarchism.

Marx & Engels Collected Works (900+ MB, 50 files)
The official, complete works of Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels organized in 50 volumes and 3 categories.
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Welcome Thread and Feedback - TECHNICAL UPDATE!

A big thanks to the /leftypol/ tech team for their hard work on the 2021/07/04 technical update! Here's the list of changes:

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what has been your experience with IRL leftist organisations? Do you think it's worth joining one?
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In the last few weeks:

>Food prices skyrocketing

>Political standstill impedes any single party from gaining the upper hand against the others
>Gas prices keep growing, to the point that the army itself has little to no gas left
<Now power stations are starting to shut down

It seems clear as of now that the country has already collapsed economically and its headed for a political reckoning of some kind (and a violent one grows likely), so I'm making this thread for anons to follow what will happen in the coming days/weeks.

Feel free to post anything you can find on Lebanese situation here.
Also post some sources if you can.
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Cuban Situation General /csg/

Last one got Full Continued from >>382756
Cuban Situation General: Gusano Armada Food for the Sharks Edition

Very good analysis of what happened
The protests were sponsored by the US using social media:
Thousands rally in support of cuban government:
US Efforts "To Destroy Cuba" Have Failed: President Diaz-Canel
Cuban exiles will set sail in an armada of 100 small boats from Florida on Monday July 19th:


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Anyone willing to drop a red pill on the Naboo Crisis, the Clone War, the imperialist policy of the Galactic Republic, and the how/why regarding Emperor Sheev Palpatine’s rise to power and the political economy of his Galactic Empire?
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🗽/USAPol/ - United States Politics 🦅
Thread for petit discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the earth.

Other livestreams:
CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
Bloomberg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dp8PhLsUcFE
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/leftydeutschpol/ - Deutschland General

Letzter Pfaden wurde dank der /Pol/acken vom Brett gepusht. Deshalb ein neues Deutschland General.
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Is right wing populism rational

Or is it still a 'voting against your own interests' thing?
The following are things I've seen listed to argue that libs will react as harshly as conservatives to the proletariat, but could it also make liberals react harshly to the populism of the nation state and petty bourgeoisie?
If liberalism is no longer progressive, antagonisms in capitalism cause the ruling class to betray its own revolution, imperialism sort of 'buys out' democratic institutions, and capitalism annihilates its petty bourgeoisie while centralizing and making itself ready for expropriation, is right wing populism therefore a reaction not to liberal equality but accelerating bourgeois dictatorship?
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/leftybritpol/ Not Coming Home Edition

Well they gave it their best shot. Maybe World Cup will be the one. At least they still have cricket. Hopefully a riot breaks out right nor or something.
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/prc/ - People's Republic of China general

A general thread for all China related discussion.

Original threads:
leftypol.org archives:
bunekrchan.xyz archives:
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/ita/ - Spaghetti Communism

A grande richiesta e dopo un'inutile e penosa scissione, rieccoci.
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/Internet Trash General/
Use for discussion on twitter, e-celebs, internet happenings, and other related internet trash
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It is important that citizens of any society develop self preservational and minor trade skills in order to not just build the revolution but to be able to maintain society and their local communities when crises hit. Feel free to share information on various skills you have in this infodump thread
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Your Top 5 Influences II: Return of the Sauces

So /leftypol/, what are your personal Top 5 texts, lectures, videos, or books that really struck a chord with you or in some way influenced your thinking?
>bonus kudos for links, .pdfs, etc.
>xposting welcome

Hopefully the peeps who contributed to the last thread are still lurking and contribute again, because I didn't get a chance to save all the recommendation last time and it >>332596 died
So much insightful and personal content, gone ;_;7
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Thoughts on George Bataille?

Just read the first volume of his most well known work (The Accursed Share) and honestly i can sorta see why people view him as similar to land in some of his [Economic] views.

The way he describes the functioning of capitalism both in an esoteric way but also in a systemic way. His descriptions of capital expansion as extension being caused by pressure within the capitalist system like a machine filling up with steam, Capitalist opulence and excess and failed capitalist enterprise / the wealth and resources squandered arbitrarily as a release valve for the system (Capital descruction), Wars in the imperialist, inter-power and civil sense as a result of capitalisms tendency to expand butting up against unconquerable GeoPolitical, Geographic and ecological limits. With the solution being the taming of this wasted surplus and with it the closing of the release valve rapid, prolonged and Accelerating expansion of capital towards final ecological and geographic barriers.

The only real systems that could possibly do this would be Socialism or Lands Corporate city state bullshit.

Either way i think he's definitely a foreunner to land and the entire /acc trend.
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Islam in Soviet Union

How did the Soviets deal with Islam? Especially in regards to women rights?
How did islamic populace react?
How were they able to make them only keep some minor spooky stuff while effectively ban the most reactionary element?
Did they ban the Hijab and child marring stuff?
Any source?
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Welp edition
Live Updates: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
Global Tracker: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
The mod team asks you to please limit all covid discourse outside the mainstream media (vaccine skepticism, mask non-compliance, etc..) to this thread
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QTDDTOT - Questions that don't need their own thread. The last one died, so here post your questions here.

I'll start, why is a centralized authority important to achieving communism and why is this seen a positive aspect.
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Anti-Maoist Hate Thread

When will they realize being lead by petty bourgeois academes is a bad idea?
When will they realize changing culture is a poor idea?
When will they stop screaming revisionism at others and realize how revisionist they are with their dogmatism?
When will they stop splintering?
When will they focus on long-term goals instead of petty acts of violence and shock-value?
When will they stop making excuses because "What do you not get about muh PROTRACTED people's war?"
When will they win a revolution?


So join in on the hate. Fuck this petty-bourgeois ideology, along with other failed movements that belong in the dustbin of history (like Trotskyism). Post your copypastas, videos, memes, articles, everything.
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Why is eugenics bad? I have a relatively minor genetic disease I inherited from my father and it sucks. I saw my dad suffering it as i grew up, getting dizzy and having to lie down. I didn't have it at first but now that im older i ended up getting the same shit, i feel dizzy all the time and tired as fuck.

Yes I know eugenics has a bad rep due to nazism and scientific racism. And there's arguably capitalist eugenics as well, preserving the life and health of the rich at the expense of the working class. But if there was a rational social order, eugenics based on actual science and genetics rather than race or class, why would it be bad?

Why would a person who has a chance to pass on genetic disorders, or a serious transmissible disease (eg. HIV) do that? You're condemning an innocent child to a life of suffering.

Is it really wrong to say its a bad idea for people not to pass this on? I only have a minor condition I can only imagine what its like for people with severe conditions
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Who would you say are the most 'accessible' leftist figures? Like if you asked the average worker about them they would say "Yeah I agree with their beliefs".
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clearly there is a war on the horizon. do you think the target is a foreign nation or is this going to be a war on citizens led by the feds to officially implement their dreams of fascio-communism?
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/webm/ thread

This thread is for posting any form of /lefty/ videos files ranging from .webm or .mp4, or other
The last thread hit the bump limit, so post new or old videos here.
Link to the last thread here: >>201250
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Whats wrong with /pol/?

I wanna understand how that site descended from an obscure mostly liberal imagebboard that could discuss politics with a varied amount of humor to a cesspit of botting, bait and shill posting that's actually more popular than most communities on reddit with a userbase that's so politically 1 sided that it feels like only 1 or a few like minded people browse and run the entire site. Around 70% the catalog of /pol/ in it's current state is anti vax propaganda and the rest is almost exclusive to id/pol/ faggotry, how did that place reach this point and is it possible for them to recover?
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/crisis/ General

💰️DOW/Market Watch Thread💰️
monitoring the market, trends, fluctuations, etc.
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I warned you about technological advancement bro I told you dog

There's a point where you must destroy conscious life on earth to spare them from the hell they'll unleash on themselves. Humanity is a cancer and needs to be mercy-killed so that it doesn't hurt itself anymore.
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What is the origin of social classes?

Socialists and communists claim to want to abolish class, but I must ask this question: how did class originate? It seems that it may have had something to do with the advent of agriculture, but I have also heard that some hunter-gather classes had distinct social classes. At any rate, knowing how social stratification arose in the first place seems important if you want to 1) figure out how or if a complex society could function without social classes and/or 2) figure out how to prevent social classes from arising again in the future.
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How to turn your friends communist

Are you friends already communist? Do you refuse to talk to libs? How would you engage with old friends that have started down the alt-light path? What do you do with apolitical people who think its all bullshit or people who are really into being outraged about muh freedom?
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Misogynist terrorism -- the data

Had some free time so I collected all the information about past anti-women terrorists based on the list here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misogynist_terrorism#List_of_incidents and compiled the data.

Pics should be self-explanatory. Mysoginist terrorism is getting more frequent, almost exclusively in the USA and Canada.

Some interesting things I noticed. Not a single perpetrator was in his 30's. It seems to me that when these people get to that age they have jobs, a home, and a (relatively) stable income, thus only in their 40s may their hatred of women resurface, maybe as a complication of midlife crisis. The 17-28 years old range usually have this "last straw" moment (getting kicked out of their parents' home, failing school, etc.) while those in their forties tend to plan more thoroughly, and unload the bullets with their long accumulated desperation.

Not a single perpetrator under 21 was racist while everyone in their 40's was. It's either due to the fact that non-boomers are actually less racist in general, or that racism just tends to accumulate as a general hatred of everything as they get older and more miserable.

Obsessive gaming and 4chan use correlate with – you guessed it – the 'tism. All except one with military affiliations had a kill&injury count above average. All of these people suicided on the scene or attempted suicide by cop but failed. Facial disfigurement seems to have no correlation with the kill&injury count. The two 4chan users are above average in the kill count.

Whether the perpetrator is racist or not seems to correlate with how many people he kills. All but one racist are above the average killed&injured count. All but one non-racist are under the average killed&injured count. Top three killers were of mixed descent (e.g. Chinese mom, English dad) and two of them were racists. (Oh yeah, I categorized ppl "racist" if there were past videos, posts, etc. linked to them where they went on rants against "Nigs" or they had an obsession over Hitler, etc.)

I'm convinced that some of these cases could have been prevented. The two most obvious cases are the German dude (paranoid schizophrenic) and the case of the latest burger killer ("sex addict"). In the former case the German dude contacted the police several times, wishing to talk to them, because he believed he gained insight about a global spy network. If the police actually showed up, and someone could see that he was clearly a schizo, maybe they could have involved some other form of help (social worker, psychologist, etc.)… In the latter case the dude was tormented by his idiotic Southern Baptist church sending him to Christ healing facilities to treat his "unhealthy" sexual desires, further pushing him down into guilt, which later led to his crime. If he was given actual psychological help instead this guilt trip shit his entire life, I'm sure it could have been evaded. Several of these criminals were bullied in school their entire lives. Naturally a better school system could lessen the frequency of such events happening.

I hope some of you find this interesting.
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McAffe's Dead man trigger countdown

So, supposedly McAffe had TBs of incriminating evidence of "the elites". And this is supposedly it, the website has a countdown which ends at the start of the 22nd (which also is remarkable cause that's the date in which the Cuba Bay of Pigs 2 electric boogaloo, now from Miami was gonna happen, and he was supportive of Cuba as well).
What do you think it will be? Is it gonna be something big, or is it gonna be some giant nothingburger? Is it gonna have some stuff about the Cuba situation maybe?
Here's the link to the website btw https://britbonglogpost.com/
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If you could remove 2 people for

The most radical change possible to the world power structure and the path it is taking who would you choose to be removed?

Alot of people can be replaced by next man up but some out there are very valuable with their knowledge and connections.
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News 7/22/21

Cyberpunk 20**? Researchers warn of ‘bleak’ future with companies owning private thoughts & world divided between cyborg and human
In a new study published in the APL Bioengineering journal, researchers from the university reviewed the state of BCI research. They raised red flags about the potential commercial exploitation of our innermost thoughts and feelings and warned of a world divided along the lines of access to BCI tech.

Biden to sanction Cuban officials following attacks on protesters
A second person familiar with the administration's plans said the sanctions are part of a series of moves the president will outline on Cuba policy. Other steps include working to expand Cubans’ access to the Internet and assembling an international coalition to condemn the Cuban government’s crackdown on the protestors.

Prison Riots Leave 18 Inmates Dead in Ecuador
The riot in the Guayaquil prison left eight inmates dead and three members of the police injured. In Latacunga prison, the riot left ten inmates dead, 35 prisoners injured, six police officers injured, and damage to the administrative areas of the prison complex.

NPA Engage AFP Forces In 5 Back-To-Back Encounters On Negros Island
Armando Sumayang Jr. Command of the New People’s Army (ASJC-NPA) Southwest Negros Front spokesperson Ka Andrea Guerrero confirmed that a unit under the ASJC was in five back-to-back encounters against elements of the 15th Infantry Battalion (IB) under the 302nd Infantry Brigade last July 20, 2021.

China floods: Good Samaritans show flood-hit Zhengzhou residents kindness
Business owners and residents in the city of Zhengzhou which has been hit by severe flooding have given a helping hand to those affected by the natural disaster in the past couple of days. The extreme weather in Zhengzhou and neighbouring areas has left at least 33 people dead and eight are missing, including 12 killed when a subway flooded, according to figures from the Henan provincial government.

Hong Kong police arrest 5 trade union members for sedition
The association published three children’s books that Li Kwai-wah, a senior superintendent of the national security department, said have seditious intent. The books feature stories that revolve around a village of sheep that has to deal with wolves from a different village. The sheep take action like going on strike or escaping by boat, according to the synopses published on the association’s website.

Journalists could face up to 14 years in prison for stories embarrassing the Government under proposed changes to the Official Secrets Act that would treat them like foreign SPIES
Journalists could face prison sentences of up to 14 years for stories that embarrass the Government under plans to reform the Official Secrets Act. Under a consultation run by Priti Patel's Home Office, which closes later this week, reporters who handle leaked documents would not have a defence if charged under new laws designed to clamp down on foreign agents.

‘Years of inaction’: Rights groups file class-action lawsuit against French police over alleged racial profiling
A group of six major NGOs, including Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International, has launched a massive class-action lawsuit against the French police, accusing the force of practicing “discriminatory identity checks.”
The 450-page lawsuit was filed on Thursday by the group of international and French rights groups with the Council of State, the highest administrative court in France.

Russia in Talks to Help Tajikistan Build Afghan Border Outpost
Deputy Foreign Minister Andrei Rudenko told the state-run RIA Novosti news agency that the terrorist group controls almost all of the Tajik-Afghan border and warned of al-Qaeda and the Islamic State strengthening their positions there.

Gold toilet found in Russian police bribery probe
Traffic police allegedly took bribes for issuing fake permits to businesses, enabling drivers to pass through checkpoints with unauthorised cargoes of grain and materials. Alexei Safonov, head of traffic police in the southern Stavropol region, was arrested with six others following the raid by the Investigative Committee (SK).
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Previous thread ( >>210868 ) hit bump limit.

We scientific (STEM) socialism here.

For a complete reading list, see: https://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2020/05/01/two-reading-lists/

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Here's the torrent with all of Paul Cockshott's YouTube channel videos up to 27/10/2020 (i.e. Eliminating inequality):
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This thread is for the discussion of cybersocialism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and of course the great immortal scientist himself, WILLIAM PAUL COCKSHOTT.

Archives of previous thread
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2) https://web.archive.org/web/20201218152831/https://bunkerchan.xyz/leftypol/res/997358.html
3) https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1092975361

You can make webm related real by contacting Ck on his Facebook or YT channel.
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Why do poltards simultaneously call for the extermination of jews, gays, etc. for being cucked emotional libtards, but then turn around and beg for sympathy on their toxic shithole?
I just don't get it, how does one browse this shithole and then turn around and ask for emotional validation from it.
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Why do communists have such cynical views on love and romance?

It seems like every communist and anarchist I know not only hates the idea of marriage and monogamy but also the concept of "love" itself. They hold that having emotional attachments to one special person to be reminiscent of private property relations.

Anyone have thoughts on this?
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Midwit meme is dumb (redux)

Consider this post on "midwits":

>but for sure there's a sort of educated-idiot or overhyped-man-baby syndrome that these people fall into where they are given positions of power and are considered to be people who should know things (like basically all politicians, and many doctors and therapists, basically all professionals who know just enough to do their jobs but dont take it further and think for themselves, or are given purview over a wider area than their real knowledge should apply to by even less knowledgeable people, mostly politicians here) or just consider themselves to be thing-knowers because they're autistic and it strokes their ego, idk whatever

The flip side of that is the conspirasoid schizo who says all the experts are wrong because they hyperfocus autistically on some little inconsistency or detail or small anomaly which for the expert to explain why it isn't correct would take months of instruction in the background data or years, the problem is on the internet people think they're experts by googling shit and what they're interpreting as "midwittery" is actually an educated person who's too exasperated to spend hours of their time hand holding a schizoid through all the actual arguments on evidence for the 99999th time so they just dismiss them. not that the schizoid even wants that because their eyes would glaze over if they had to sit through that anyway. So when the educated person dismisses them they say "SEE, I knew it!".

Years of education actually give in addition to formal knowledge a sort of tacit knowledge which is useful in dealing with ideas and arguments and research has shown university education makes people less prone to believing conspiracy theories. Educated people are more humble about the limits of their knowledge because they actually are more aware of the extent of total knowledge out there and the amount of work actually needed to learn and internalize it and therefore respect experts more. OTOH people with less education can often be pretty arrogant and run roughshod over expertise and scientific consensus because they don't respect or value education and knowledge. Which is what leads to them thinking the gap between what they know and an expert knows is something that can be corrected with a few days of googling.

This is why the midwit meme is dumb, it attacks whats actually pretty good advice (getting data and sources for shit) in favor of some gut instinct bullshit. 99% of people other than those who are legitimately on the cutting edge of new knowledge would be best served to actually read shit, and rejecting that in favor of making up your own bullshit is in my experience largely intellectual laziness to learn shit like science. It's flat earther mentality but applied to everything.

It's this sort of arrogance that leads a dropout starcraft gamer to debate a harvard educated economist like he's dumb and think that he actually looks good or convincing. The real midwits are the ""Sargons"" of this world, not a random doctor.
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/IHG/ - Iran Happening General

I have for a while known that it was only a matter of time before this happens.

About 5 days ago, protests broke out in the Iranian Arab province of khuzestan. Itan has been hit by an extreme drought that has hit Khuzestan rspecially hard and combined with constant power outages, poor water rationing and a covid situation that is not improving, people have been pushed to the breaking point.

While the Protests were localized to Khuzestan and initially only demanding basic necessities, only 3 days later they have spread into numerous Iranian cities including Tehran and demands have quickly turned into anti government slogans. People are now no longer demanding water but calling for the abolition of the Islamic republic and resignation of the supreme leader. The current president is a hardliner who won the vote amids the lowest turnout in the country's history due to the fact that most of the population boycotted the elections in protest.

Today the slogans have become outright blasphemous and militant. All over Tehran you could hear "Death to Khamenei" and "ditch the Quran,long live Iran"

Police opened fire yesterday, and in retaliation citizens shot dead two police officers. 5 protesters have been killed so far and a tank that had been brought to block the road has been set on fire. Fires and skirmishes with police rage across numerous cities. People in Khuzestan have hoisted the arab separatist flag of Ahvaz. Some protesters can be seen carrying Iranian flags with the islamic emblem cut out. The government has shut down internet in the country.

It's important to remember that /leftypol/ and leftistsbin general have no horses in this race. This is a conflict between liberals and religious fundamentalists. Unlike Cuba these appear to be organic grassroots protests. There is very little evidence that these are US orchestrated even though they likely have their blessing. There are no US flags or pro US slogans, and western media is completely silent on the protests as of now. Most people are unaware of them. This is an infight between reactionaries, so please refeain from shitting up the thread with side taking.

This might or might not be a happening, but this thread is for following the situation and posting updates as well as discussion.
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It seems there are widespread riots and looting in South Africa right now, and, despite there not being still any semblance of an happening there is some opportunity for very good kino stuff, so i'm posting this to post here whatever i can find.
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Why does this book make right-wingers seethe so much?

What's so dangerous about it that it and the author have become the subject of conspiracy theories from the right, in the same way the Frankfurt School, Saul Alinsky, and Planned Parenthood have?

What was so "evil" about the CPUSA in the early 1930s?
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John Bolton 2024!

I can get behind this. I'm sick of trump!

John Bolton is a true American patriot who fights for the people worldwide, is honest and will lead America to greatness again!

Can he count on your vote?

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All Internationalists should learn Esperanto

How are the workers of the world supposed to unite if they cannot even agree to a single unified language?

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Is leftypol for indigenous peoples rights or is that just radlib shit? Should the socialist state give them protected land to live on or just force them to assimilate?
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Follow up to the recent muslim thread


how does one purge salafism out of the muslim world completely? salafists are religious zealots whose ideas are actively contributing to the destabilization of the muslim world, perpetuate negative stereotypes about all muslims worldwide, along with the destabilization of neighbors of islamic states, it costs the world trillions that could've been spent on improving the material conditions of the poor worldwide simply to combat this absolutely pest of a division of sunni islam
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/auspol/ - Australia General II

Thread dedicated to the discussion of Australian politics and events.

Come one come all to watch this island off the coast of Asia slowly slide into a workers paradise or a live-action version of Mad Max.

Previous thread: >>>/leftypol_archive/19690
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Esoteric Hitlerism General: AFAP Edition (ALL FASCISTS ARE PEDOS)

This is the thread dedicated to researching, discussing, exploring, and laughing at, that element of the far right which we have come to term "esoteric hitlerist" but more broadly a thread for documenting the extreme right.

To sum up, as it says in the title, this entire strand of thought is more or less an intelligence operation carried out mostly by pedophiles, with a strong satanic/ esoteric influence. On top of this, there are several interesting connections to these operations and operatives and Zionism.

The purpose of these operations, as are the purpose of all CIA operations, is to suppress and destroy the real movement that abolishes the present state of things, the mass movement organised workers, the socialist and communist movement.

What follows is a series of links, references and thoughts which document this feature of capitalist hegemony.

Link to last thread archive:


The thread from which it was born:


If anybody has the thread inbetween those archived that would be wonderful, all the info is copied into that first link but some of the discussion was good and bants.

Fresh Material courtesy of a Based Anon:



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How come most of the oldest americans are black women?
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/brg/ Brasil General /brg/

Tv Senado 24h Pay-per-view edition

Last one got full

Melhor compilação dos atos circenses do executivo federal: https://medoedelirioembrasilia.wordpress.com/
Não inclui eventos nos picadeiros legislativo e executivo que não envolvem o executivo.

Narração em tempo real da CPI: https://twitter.com/camarotedacpi/
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stop using the midwit meme

The midwit meme is fucking retarded and so is anyone using it. It's literally just the /pol/ version of the PMC meme. The vast majority of white collar professionals are "midwits" with the exception of some top scientists, mathematicians, etc. who may be somewhat above that.

Midwit as a meme was created by the far right writer vox day, and refers to people of average to above average (but not genius level) intelligence. I'm sure you've seen the bell curve memes like picrel showing a dumb guy agreeing with an intellectual on the idea that reason and evidence are epistemically unsound. The problem is that the intellectuals they quote are usually out of context or fucking Nietzsche, revealing them to basically be at the level of an arrogant sophomore philosophy major.

Every conservative ideologue in history, from Nietzsche, to Burke, to Jordan Peterson, to Charles Murray, to Ayn Rand have the exact same take: Hierarchy and inequality natural and the purpose of society is to uplift the few great men who will actually make society great.

All this bullshit about "high iq" people disregarding empirical evidence, reason, or research in favor of gut instinct is just idealist nonsense designed to obfuscate their preference for an unthinking acceptance of tradition and hierarchy.

The progressive forces of history have always used reason to critique and interrogate the existing hierarchical order of things. By the midwit meme, thinkers like Locke, Rousseau, Spinoza, and Adam Smith would have been considered "midwits" for questioning the privileges of the aristocracy or the divine right of kings.

An attack on reason is an attack on the tools of self emancipation as fascism and reaction have always thrived on mysticism and irrationality.
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" Anti-Communist Proletariat"

Why the fuck that faggotry exist? I can't take it anymore!?
İf fucking proletariat used to have a brain, we would have already live under socialism, but today if you even defend yourself slightly against elites; they will attack you, isolate you and humiliate* you like you are a fucking loser. Because being a chad-winner means taking a deepthroat to your masters while being loser means opposing the establishment. Oh yes, opposing the establishment is establishment, being true anti-establishment means taking deepthroat to establishment
Why fucking masses love their masters, wants to be facefucked by them and attacks anyone who doesn't want that ??
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About imperialism

Reading stuff:

So people here keep telling me to resist imperialism, which eventually means to side with capitalist assholes because they are attacked by the US. Those folks naturally define imperialism as this: hostile united states foreign policy.

But imperialism isn't that, or just that. Marx and Engels used the term to describe intrinsically conquering nations. Then Lenin went in and talked about how finance capital took over all the other aspects of capital and changed state politics so war would be the necessary conclusion of national bourgeois concurrence. He was right.

In the end Lenin made imperialism about how richer countries are exploiting poorer countries but he expressed this concept with a different; an enhanced meaning that would reflect a certain stage of capitalism.

Now to my final point: Lenin could reach power because of a plot from an imperialist nation who triggered the first world war in order to get a share of the colonial pie. He was transported in a train, protected by the army, given money and resources to do his stuff.

Sometimes I can't but wonder when I see some here try to dogmatically shut down the few who dare criticizing countries which happen to be in the way of the US as glowies. So what the fuck is wrong with you?
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Accelerationist General

I've never actually heard a solid, real argument against accelerationism. People just parrot that it's stupid and ultra and "doesn't work", but nobody provides any evidence whatsoever for their claims.

Historically, every major incident of working class uprising followed or occurred in tandem with a major capitalist crisis. WW1 resulted in a wave of socialist uprisings across Europe, mass unionization pushes in just about every civilized part of the planet, and a successful socialist revolution in Russia. WW2 resulted in the takeover of China by victorious communist forces, the mass decolonization of Africa, Asia, and Latin America, the socialist liberation of more or less the entirety of Eastern Europe, and unprecedented rates of unionization in the West.

By what possible fucking stretch of the imagination could someone seriously and genuinely argue that accelerating the contradictions of capitalism "doesn't work" to produce communist uprising? Historically, it is the fucking ONLY thing that works. If anything, milquetoast reformism and cautious labor activism have shown themselves to be complete failures to producing anything resembling a strong and effective communist movement.

Only the grinding, breaking gears of surplus value extraction can lead to the liberation of the masses. Anything else is a silly, liberal pipe dream.
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The problem of the left

There is almost 0 organizational discussion. There is no tactical discussion: what do now?

One of the most important things is organizing. This can be done by action for shorter workday same wage. You do not even have to mention communism while discussing this. I mean, if a workers do not understand communism and you can't convince him, it does not mean he is not proletariat.

There is very little discussion of this tactics. If there is any, it is superficial.

Most of the discussion on marxism and history of USSR, etc, but there is very little if any, action.

You can popularize short workday (same wage, not lower wage!) by printing posters and gluing them, etc. I do not know, that is the point, to understand something and act.
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Xi has failed his people and is letting his country drown under the sea.

This is truly sad to watch to see they had such high aspirations. Now thousands possibly millions are going to die under their poor infrastructure and lack of care for the lower class by Chinese elites

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If I am a short, ugly, mildly deformed genetic piece of shit incel, what does socialism have to offer me? Don't get me wrong, I like the idea of a classless society, the liquidation of the commodity form, shorter work weeks and better work conditions, but if at the end of the day I'm still gonna remain a genetic dead end virgin, why should I bother? Why shouldn't I just kill myself if I'll still be dumb and ugly under a communist society?
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NFL STAR stands against the vax!!

Top NFL Wide Receiver Deandre Hopkins takes a stand against NFL vaccine policy.

Top NFL wide receiver DeAndre Hopkins takes a stand against NFL vaccine policy
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What is the socialist or planned economists response to how to deal with foreign trade?
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Paranormal activities

What non political conspiracies/paranormal stuff does leftypol believe in? Are any of you UFOfags? What exactly is it in human psychology that wants to believe in bigfoot, etc. and other such things where people are willing to believe in paranormal phenomenon? And if such a thing is built into human psychology can the vast majority of people ever escape an idealist mode of thought?
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What is the marxist analysis on age of consent?

I can't imagine that Karl Marx would look at this photograph and say wow this absolutely disgusting and no adult should even consider her remotely attractive!

What have you read from Marxist literature on age of consent?
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Late to the party

What the fuck happened to this place?

I visited this board a few years ago and was totally put off by the retarded leftist talking points. All the radfem, transhumanist shit, black people worship, orange man bad, white peepo bad, etc etc just turned me off. It seemed like an ultra retarded, neo-lib echo chamber. As a result I never really checked this place out too much because my first impression with it was so bad. For whatever reason, a thread on /pol/ got me lurking here a few days ago and I was blown away by the transformation that's happened. Suddenly this place now despises all the neo-lib retardation, and is woke about idpol being used as a weapon to stop people from uniting. There's actual intelligent discussion. There's people with actual enlightened opinions on the shit going down now.

Why/how did this transformation come about? Did leftists suddenly become based? Or did old-school /pol/acks just become woke? I haven't been following any politics very much for the past few years because I was busy getting my degree. Can someone give me a qrd?
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Thoughts about vaccine?

Guess there aren't any vaccine threads yet as of now. So what do y'all think about vaccines? Do you oppose it like /pol/'ers or support it like what's expected from the left wing?
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Is Belgium lost?

Vlaams Belang (VB on the graph) is at 26.1% as of the most recent opinion polls. This means that one of the most far-right parties in Belgium's history is in first place. These guys dominate the youth vote as well, which is not surprising given that their candidate is just 28.

New Flemish Alliance (N-VA on the graph) is at 21.8%. These guys are just as far-right as VB just with more polish. They are in second place. They are more popular with older far-rightists, however have recently become increasingly popular with mainstream conservatives across the board without losing any of it's radical policies or followers.

The far-right controls a total 47.9% of the potential votes currently. Socialists are in third, but with around 10% less votes than N-VA and 15% than VB. Then there are two conservative parties, a green party, and finally the only true left-wing party, the Worker's Party of Belgium (PVDA).

How fucked is Belgium?
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How do people view governments these days?

Seriously does anyone at this point trust or believe the government should influence their lives at this point
>the chinese flee to the west in the millions to avoid their own government
>brazil britain and France, actually pretty much the entirety of europe have stayed corrupt economically stagnating or declining into actual shitholes for decades now due to years of government incompetency
>not a single government in africa or south america is trusted in the slightest due to foreign installed dictators or generally diverting taxes away from actually helping civilians
It's always the same repetition, do they work, do people really need governments to exist? What does the general worldwide opinion have to say about governments
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Why are Atheists and secularists such pussies?

How come there is practically no anti-religious militancy in history? Like uprisings/revolutions/Terrorism or even individual attacks. When there was almost an endless amount of the same done by religious fundamentalists and the devout?

I mean with all the horrific and sadistic shit religious zealots and governments did to nonbelievers/women/others and all the control and domination they have had over people in history there is surprisingly little (almost none) pushback against this by secularists and atheists.(torture, murder, inquisition, pogroms, supression of freedoms, thought policing, mutilation, public hangings, public floggings, witch trials, forced conversions, support for slavery, support for fascism, sexual abuse of children, emotional abuse and indoctrination in schools…. to name a few)

And when there was, it was always a part of some other bigger movement and done as a sort of side policy and few people other than the most hardcore leading revolutionaries even cared about it. Even in places where Fundamentalists hijacked a revolution and imposed their rule on an entire country in Iran, resistance was confined to a small group of iraqi backed cultists hated by pretty much everyone else.

I mean, we constantly hear about people being radicalized into fundamentalism by rampant secularism but never the other way around even when there are perfect contradictions for it to happen. And most atheists I have talked to always seem to have a live and let live attitude and are bizarrely obsessed with being civil and polite in the face of opression. They seem to be bigger forgivers than Christians and balk at the idea of opposing it with anything other than a pen and paper and "muh critical thinking". Not even the most hardcorr state atheist regimes in history seem to be even NEARLY as brutal to believers as they were to nonbelievers. They never punished them for practicing their religions in private.

I'm not trying to be a fedoralord here, but I have a hard time understanding this. Is this some kind of extreme Stockholm syndrome, or what is it? I'm a theorylet and historylet but those things just don't make sense to me. Please explain.

I was raised in a generally religious country but never really fully bought into religion even as a kid. Christcom and Islamcom, please refrain from shitflinging and just quote me with a soyjak and move on.
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OC Thread 9.0

Thread dedicated to /leftypol/ original content
Post original content you've made, or OC someone else recently made which you want to share.
Or ITT collaborate on improving content already made.

This is the place where you can find all /leftypol/ memes n' shit
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Psychedelics General

GQ:Are there political or social ills that that you think might benefit from the sort of entropy that psychedelics can introduce into our consciousness?

Pollan:I do and I don't. I do in the sense that the experience addresses what I see as two of the biggest problems we face as a society. One is an environmental crisis, born of our sense of distance from nature: our willingness to objectify nature and see it merely as a resource. The other is tribalism: our inability to see the other as like us, and the egotistical zero-sum game with other people, whether it's other countries, other races, other religions.

Along comes these medicines that actually change consciousness in those two domains, very specifically, by making us feel really connected to nature, that we sense the subjectivity of other species. Which should lead to treating them with more respect and care, and feeling a deep implication that you're part of nature, not just a spectator. And then, on the tribalism side, [it] makes you feel deeply connected to all different kinds of other people. So you could argue that this is exactly the drug we need right now.

But then you need to stand back and say, “Wait, is it possible to prescribe a drug for an entire country?” How many people do you have to give this experience before you change the culture? And that was something Timothy Leary spent a lot of time on, he had these predictions of how many people he'd have to trip before the world changed. There's no model for prescribing treatment to a culture. That takes you into a really terra incognita of social change. I think, for that stuff, we still need politics.

Is he right? Will Psychedelics help with archieving the lower stages of communism, or are they to advanced, so that only in a well developed democratic dictatorship of the proletariat they can help transition further into full gay luxury psychedelic space communism?
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/meg/ - Middle East General

This thread is for discussion about the Middle East

Long Live The Intifada

Israel/Palestine cytube still going?
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Climate Change General - /climate/

The planet continues to warm and create devastating shifts to the ecosystems across the world.

I've been noticing that each year that goes by without a united approach. The seasons of the year get more and more out of tune to the usual range of expectations.

Donors Trust: The shadow operation that has laundered $146 million in climate-denial funding - https://www.greenpeace.org/usa/wp-content/uploads/legacy/Global/usa/planet3/PDFs/DonorsTrust.pdf

Anarchist Libraby query on climate change - https://theanarchistlibrary.org/search?query=climate%20change&sort=&filter_topic=%2Fcategory%2Ftopic%2Fecology&filter_topic=%2Fcategory%2Ftopic%2Fgreen-anarchism&filter_topic=%2Fcategory%2Ftopic%2Fgreen&filter_topic=%2Fcategory%2Ftopic%2Fenvironment

Europe's climate denial funding - https://corporateeurope.org/en/2010/12/funding-climate-change-denial.

Current Hot Topics:
Enbridge Line 3 pipeline protests

Miami Condo Collaspe could be climate change related: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/29/miami-condo-collapse-questions-climate-change

(Will add more later.)
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"Under gommunisum, you'd had to work like a slave!"

I've come across this sham argument in an increasing amount recently, also by Eastern Euro anti-communists.
Meanwhile Burgerland, workers in a bloody chips factory work themselves to death.

Or the hyper-exploitation, which is going on now in Eastern Europe.

>In Romania, ‘modern slaves’ burn noxious trash for a living
>In the trash-strewn slums of Sintesti, less than 10 miles from Romania’s capital, Mihai Bratu scrapes a dangerous living for his Roma family amid the foul reek of burning plastic that cloys the air day and night.
>[…] “We don’t want to do this. Why don’t they give us jobs like (communist dictator Nicolae) Ceausescu used to, they would come with buses, with cars, and take us to town to work,” she told The Associated Press. “Gypsies are seen as the worst people no matter where we go or what we do.”

We know better, but feel free to post more examples of horrid working conditions in Eastern Europe and the imperial core, in addition to showing evidence of how working conditions under communism steadily improved over time, to use against anti-communists in debates.
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Luxembourg’s Prime Minister dying

>Prime Minister Xavier Bettel of Luxembourg, who is suffering from Covid-19 symptoms, was in “serious but stable” condition on Tuesday at a hospital, his press secretary in Luxembourg said. The prime minister had low oxygen levels in his blood, an acute concern for people with Covid-19.

happening? this guy might die?
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Good books not written by communists

Currently reading four books from DK (the encyclopedia publishers), those being Definitive Visual History to the American Civil War, the First World War, the Second World War, and the Vietnam War
Got any suggestions from non-anarchists and non-communists?
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IDPOL: A Meta Discussion

aka /leftypol/: An Exploration into the Causes and Effects of Identity Politics.
Let's get to the bottom of identity politics, bane of the radical left and blockade to normie socialism.

ITT post about idpol and anti-idpol.
Post literature, effortposts, infographics, etc.
Post about what idpol is, the history of idpol, idpol today, the problems with it, and how to deal with it.

The point of this thread is to develop our discourse on the topic. Currently the meaning of idpol and many people's understanding of it is extremely nebulous. This is a problem for us in addressing it in general. It is a problem for the mods appropriately moderating it. It's a problem for users knowing what posts are good. Most importantly it's an obstacle to people knowing what kind of theory is sensible and based versus what is idpozzed and cringe. Most of us will agree that idpol is a problem the left deals with to some degree more or less online or in real life. It is both an inferior understanding of politics and a way of baiting people. What we sometimes don't agree on is what idpol is and how it works. That's what this thread is for: fleshing out our discourse so that we can better combat liberalism (and other right wing politics) and promote communism.
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"Leftism" is outdated

Yeah, the title is an attention bait, but try to say where I'm wrong

While majority of people here are anti capitalist, there barely is any capitalism left in the actual world,

Capitalism can be thought of as a market society, where everything gets turned into commodity including people for profit, but markets barely exist anymore. Everything nowadays is done by computers and owned by like 4-15 people. There's no competition or markets to speak of in such cases. Google has a monopoly on it's app store, which is easily where 80% of online purchases are made and they can easily kick every competitor they want with a click of a button. Amazon too has a monopoly on physical goods and all of the purchases run on a computer without seeing any sort of market.

Furthermore, profit isn't a central part of the economy anymore. Nearly all of these mega corps run on loss. They just have banks and venture capitalist throw money in them, which funny enough actually works. Both the venture capitalist and the companies get larger and control even more with that.

There's still a labor market, but for how long that will too exist? I can't imagine it existing 3 decades from now, assuming things stay the way they are.

So isn't being traditionally left wing today being like being anti feudal just before industrial revolution? Because people here talk as if we lived in 1950s or so, maybe even earlier.
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Is there an explanation why predominantly urbanites seem to have an obsession with their appearance so much that they base and base other peoples entire personalities off how they dress and what they look like?
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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General

5th Edition: Real succdem hour edition

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, Myanmar breaking apart or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us… hopefully!

Matrix room: https://matrix.to/#/!YeYeuZuLSYkegWssey:matrix.org?via=matrix.org

Last threads:
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Please i just want a non islamophobic answer that makes sense

Why the flying fuck are there so many muslims on this planet that view terrorism as okay? I can make a fucking list of terrorists groups from islam alone and I still think I wouldn't have hit them all
>fulani herdesmen
>boko haram
>the taliban
>al Qaeda
>al shabaab
What the hell makes people join these fucking cults, terrorism isnt a fucking video game holy fuck
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Market Socialism

If workers coops are a necessary step in socialism why can't they raise capital with NON VOTING SHARES? Shareholders could buy and sell but not vote on any decisions unlike the workers. that way they can raise money but not have to listen to porkies
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Be honest with me bros, are we winning the fight against neoliberalism/capitalism/fascism worldwide? Is socialism/communism more popular today than in 1991 when the USSR collapsed? Is the future bright for the leftist camp in general terms?
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Would There Be A War ?

So, i'm hearing that some anons claiming that before RoP hitting zero, they will do a war and save capital
But how much is that true? Will masses really accept war at this age? Aren't wars cost too much today ? Aren't declining birthrates threats the potential soldier numbers? Aren't global-economy connected to each other to point that, any global-war crush the world to irreversible point? Aren't nuclear-nukes makes everyone afraid?
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How do Westoids cope with living in such a sociopathic society?

Was reading retards in /r/Atheism debating “communism”, one of the turds was discussing “freedom” and when the socialist pointed out that freedom from (some) arbitrary laws while still being allowed to starve on the street is fucking meaningless, to which the based and rational redditor argued that actually freedom doesn’t mean a right to a decent quality of life but just the garbage included in America’s warped concept of freedom and literally nothing else

My question is, how do westoid’s cope with such a sociopathic way of approaching the value of human life, freedom, etc.? Freedom for westerner’s is literally immaterial shit and excludes means to actually survive, why are these people like this?
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/DPRK/ - Democratic People's Republic of Korea General

Thread for news and discussions of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, its material conditions, the status and health of its socialist tradition, disproving common myths about it, etc.

Archive of the previous DPRK thread:
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Hungarian Thread for /voros/ refugees

Második felvonás!
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I'm a NEET on NEETbux, I'm honestly not very political but I would like to know /leftypol/ opinion about NEET's (and lumpenproletariat in general)

I feel good knowing that I don't have to work to serve porky interests.
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/mlm/ - Maoism General

While there are surely some people interested in Maoism on /leftypol/, the tendency has no noticeable presence here. From my observation Maoism has been gaining traction in socialist communities online recently. Though the ideology's influence is still relatively small, I'm optimistic that we're witnessing the earlier stages of Maoists winning leadership in the movements of the working class which will result in the reconstitution of Communist Parties guided by MLM. I started this thread to spur investigation and discussion amongst potential comrades.

Why Maoism? https://tjen-folket.no/index.php/en/2019/08/14/why-maoism-what-is-maoism/
"Maoism is developed in the first place by six great communist leaders: Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, and Gonzalo."
"The rightist line led China back to capitalism, and dismantled the dictatorship of the proletariat into a fascist state. (…) But the cultural revolution and Mao Zedong Thought inspired millions of people all over the world, and led to the creation of a number of new communist parties on a revolutionary basis. They started people’s wars in Peru, India, the Philippines, Turkey, and Nepal."
"Gonzalo and the PCP maintain that Mao’s mass line, the line for the protracted people’s war and the line for the cultural revolution are the foremost examples of Maoism’s universal applicability, along with Maoism’s advancement of Marxism’s philosophy and economy."
"Gonzalo Thought is Maoism applied to the concrete conditions for revolution in Peru, but it is the universal conclusions in these thoughts that apply to the rest of the world."

Maoist Resources:

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/ASG/ - Anti-Sectarianism general

There seems to have be a lot sectarianism on this board as of late. I think we should lighten things up by promoting cooperation and harmony between different leftist sects. Let's start saying good things about other sects.

(I don't belong to any specific sect by the way)
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Pencil man is victorious and travelling around the country while Keiko and her lawyers try any card to subvert the election.
Prev. threads:
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Is quantum mechanics the biggest killer of metaphysics?

I wanna see if any big brain anons can wrap their heads around why quantum mechanics killed all form of metaphysical thinking. All physical phenomena are quantum manifestation of a field with many potential energies.

Quantum mechanics essentially killed many metaphysics philosophers and now all they do is cope.
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Govt-led censorship: Is the U.S. lurching toward fascism?

Given recent announcements that the Biden administration will take active efforts to censor info on social media, and the not-so-recent precedents set by social media bannings over the last half decade, is it alarmist or reasonable to say that the US ruling class is beginning to resort to authoritarian methods?

Biden Press Sec.: "We've increased disinformation research and tracking… We're flagging problematic posts for Facebook that spread disinformation." https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1415728046930268160

The Press Sec. again: "You shouldn't be banned from one platform and not others." https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1416089821056012289

Biden says platforms like Facebook are 'killing people' with Covid misinformation https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/16/politics/biden-facebook-covid-19/index.html
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Hijab ban

So the ECJ has just gone full mask off, it is now legal to fire workers for wearing a hijab. I wonder how this is going to end. Like surely this must be against at-least one EU country's constitution?
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Are they run by FBI agents?

I have often heard it said that the FBI took over Communist Party USA back during the Cold War, and that the organization is now used as a honeypot to trap socialists. Is this true?
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>tfw you were tricked by internet memes into believing that a proletarian uprising was imminent within the imperial core
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Haitian President Jovenel Moïse assassinated

He was a corrupt, right-wing leader so RIP to this guy but what the fuck is happening in Haiti.

>Haitian President Jovenel Moïse was assassinated after a group of unidentified people attacked his private residence, the country’s interim prime minister said in a statement Wednesday. Moïse’s wife, First Lady Martine Moïse, is hospitalized, interim Premier Claude Joseph said.

>Joseph condemned what he called a “hateful, inhumane and barbaric act,” adding that Haiti’s National Police and other authorities had the situation in the Caribbean country under control. The killing late Tuesday comes amid deepening political and economic stability and a spike in gang violence.

>The Haitian Embassy in Canada, in a tweet, also confirmed Moïse was killed.


WSWS take on him:

>Biden is continuing the policy of Trump in backing the US puppet against popular opposition. Moïse’s rise to the presidency, however, was engineered under the Obama administration and, in particular, by former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and her husband, ex-President Bill Clinton, who was named UN special envoy to Haiti. They previously had pushed the 2011 presidential candidacy of Moïse’s predecessor, the carnival singer Michel “Sweet Micky” Martelly, a political ally of the right-wing death squads that were the legacy of the US-backed dictatorship of the Duvalier family, which exercised a reign of terror over the country for three decades.

>The chief attraction of both these right-wing puppets was their subservience to US imperialism and the profit interests of the clothing sweatshop, agribusiness, tourism and mining sectors extracting wealth from the impoverished country.

>Moïse’s rule has been characterized by a steadily tightening dictatorial grip over the Haitian state. He not only dissolved the country’s parliament—ruling by decree for over a year—but has also stripped the country’s local officials of their power. He has employed assassination, massacres and police state repression against his opponents. Armed gangs led by former and current police have been unleashed against neighborhoods in the capital of Port-au-Prince as well as areas of the countryside to crush opposition and intimidate workers and the oppressed rural poor.

>Popular opposition grew against the Moïse regime, fueled by his personal involvement in a corruption scheme that saw the outright theft of some $4 billion in Petrocaribe aid provided by Venezuela in the form of loans and cheap oil that was resold on the world market.

>Once oil prices collapsed and the aid dried up, Moïse demonstratively aligned himself with the Trump administration’s campaign of sanctions and military threats against Venezuela. At the same time, his government implemented draconian IMF-dictated austerity measures that drove up fuel costs, devalued the national currency and drastically deepened already intolerable levels of poverty, leading to massive protests in July 2018 demanding Moïse’s ouster.

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/SG/ - Shitposting General

I see that tonight is shitposting night, so I decided to create a whole thread dedicated to the topic. Please feel free to share you're finest shitposts.
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Why should Arabs or any colored folk support marxism?

As an Iraqi I wonder why tf should Arabs, Blacks and other colored folk support marxism over our own anti-imperialist national liberation struggles? Arabs and Blacks are two of the most horribly oppressed and discriminated peoples on Earth why should we seek internationalism and solidarity from first world white people (and most other nations) when we're not even seen as humans? I'm born from a refugee family in Europe and I plan on gathering enough financial resources once I finish college and I'm moving to Iraq or any other Arab nation and I'm gonna dedicate my life for my people and their struggle, I'm gonna spread the message of Ba'ath and plan on doing a renaissance of the philosophy, I want the Arab nation to isolate itself from a world that hate us and want us dead, from Morocco to Awhaz I want a united Arab nation who take the same approach as the DPRK towards the world, and I'm ready to die for this dream.
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Comrades, let me tell you something. The capitalist-imperialist system is our #1 enemy, but day by day the police, military and other armed wings of capitalism are moving towards fascism. They want to keep the economic system, but destroy the political system. Almost every week there is a neo-nazi conspiracy found in the police/military in Germany, UK, Italy, Finland etc. The armed wing of capitalism is full of neo-nazis in most of the "democratic" countries. They are just waiting for the "day X" when they start to act.

What I want to say is: comrades, don't ever trust the police. Anything you say will be leaked to the "higher-ups" and your info will be given to your local nazis at some point. We on the left like to think ourselves more moral than the right wingers. That's not even the half of it. The armed fascist right wing has NO MORALS at all. They support rape, they support killing children, they are basically animals. And this is what we are up against.

In the EU it is hard to obtain legal weapons (unless you are a pig or a hunter like most of the fascos). I say: buy weapons if you can (for example cross-bows are good and powerful and legal to buy without any licence). Be sure that you are able to defend yourself. The fascists have no morals. They will do anything, they will rape you mom and fuck your sister if that's good for their terror campaign.
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We are in the 21st century, anon. Who are the "Fabians" shilling for class collaboration today? Who are the "Bakuninists" of our society? Who are the "demsocs/socdems" ready to support war? Who are the anti-revolutionary cucks who threaten our communist rule when established?
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Stupidpol is currently doing a donation campaign to a charity that sends syringes to Cuba to help them fight COVID-19 infections.
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I found a rather interesting pamphlet recently, and couldn't resist taking some pictures of it. Apologies that it's likely pretty hard to read, but you rarely come across right-wing propaganda in physical form, and I'm not a photographer by trade.

Nevertheless, I think this journey will be rather interesting.

Here's the first page. It's titled "END CCP". It has a link, and it begs you to sign a petition to end the communist party of China. On the cover is a black and white image of a solemn girl in a face mask. Behind her the wall says "May the Chinese Communist Party fall", and under that "free Hong Kong"

Real inspiring stuff.
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Slander just makes us stronger

I don't give a fuck about the actual truth or falsehood of Courtois' Black Book 100 million accusation. Morality is not my concern. My concern is soft power and as far as I'm concerned the 100 million figure makes us stronger. I embrace it ironically. The later 21st century will be brutal and gruesome and billions are going to die or will have to die. A 100 million is a drop in the bucket. Furthermore, if a state can kill so many millions or so and still flourish it speaks to the absolute power of the theory. And as for Blokhins' Katyn involvement it would just speak to the grit and determination he had in bringing peace to Eastern Europe by eradicating the Polish officer class. Hell, one of the main attractions of Marxism-Leninism for me is that slander. The population of the US is 331 million and each and every American effectively is equally guilty in American inaction or action alike in imperialism. I need a theory that can let me organise their physical destruction, each and every one of them. And if the slander is that ML has killed 100 million and I ironically believe in it, I can organise to kill 331 million Americans.

The 100 million slander is one that strengthens me, speaking to the imagined power of Marxism-Leninism by the book and that is all that matters. There is no need to refute it.KILL KILL KILL
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If the Anarcho-Communists won in Spain would this have literally any affect on history?

Considering Spain was already more or less totally irrelevant on the World stage by 1936 and considering Franco sat out WWII anyway even after Hitler was like “Hey buddy, you’re a fascist, I’m a fascist, let’s team up” could it be said that the outcome of the Spanish Civil War had no real historical significance for anyone other than the people of Spain? Like, Spain has continued to be relatively insignificant anyway, I know anarchists seethe over the war, but literally what would their victory have changed?
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Chile Elections

Chilebros what happened? /ourguy/ Jaudes lost the primaries for the presidential election. Is Apruebo Dignidad still based or are we fucked? What can we except from this other candidate? And how is the constitutional convention coming along? Let's just hope that nobody is preparing to launch a coup again…
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News 7/21/21

Brazilian party began campaign to end blockade on Cuba
He revealed that 'our militants also record dozens of videos and broadcast on different platforms on Internet to show support for the Cuban Revolution and denounce Washington's attacks'. According to Vasco, 'the blockade is the coward weapon that imperialism found to try to subdue the Cuban Revolution'.

Fifty people linked to Mexico’s president among potential targets of NSO clients
At least 50 people linked to Mexico’s president, Andrés Manuel López Obrador – including his wife, children, aides and doctor – were included in a leaked list of numbers selected by government clients of the Israeli spyware company NSO Group before his election.

Maduro ally makes rare appearance at Venezuela business group assembly
Venezuelan business chamber Fedecamaras on Tuesday received Vice President Delcy Rodriguez for the opening of its annual assembly, a sign of easing tensions between business leaders and the socialist government following decades of bitter rivalry.

Guerrillas push Turkish troops back in Avaşîn
The HPG Press Centre has released a statement on the latest attacks by the invading Turkish army and the actions carried out by guerrillas of the People's Defense Forces (HPG) and Free Women's Troops (YJA Star) in southern Kurdistan (northern Iraq).

Israeli Military Chief Vows 'Overt and Covert' Response to Lebanon Rocket Fire
Hours before the rockets were fired from Lebanon, five people were killed in overnight airstrikes in Syria, allegedly carried out by Israel, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights said Tuesday. The attack reportedly occurred just before midnight on Monday in the Al-Safirah area on the southern foothills of Aleppo.

Indian parliament erupts in protest over government's use of military-grade spying equipment
INDIA’S Parliament has erupted in protests as opposition MPs accused the government of using military-grade spyware equipment to monitor Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s political opponents, journalists and activists. The session on Tuesday was disrupted repeatedly as parliamentarians shouted slogans against the government and demanded an investigation into how the spyware, Pegasus, was used in India.

Transwoman Activist First To Contest Kerala Election, Found Dead
According to The Indian Express, Alex withdrew her nomination a day before the polling after being allegedly mentally tortured and receiving death threats from leaders of her own party which nominated her. … “The DSJP leaders forced me to speak poorly of UDF candidate PK Kunhalikutty and to criticise the LDF government,” Alex said.

Socialists vow to beat war on Labour’s left
LABOUR’S left protested against the death of democracy in the party today ahead of a decision on whether to purge left-wing groups. Hundreds of suspended party members picketed Labour’s central London headquarters alleging unfair expulsions, attacks on free speech and rigged internal elections.

Migrant Workers Halt Two-Month Hunger Strike in Belgium
Hundreds of undocumented workers, mainly from Morocco and Algeria, on Wednesday suspended a two-month hunger strike to demand Belgian authorities let them remain in the country. The strikers had been camped out for weeks at several locations in Brussels, including in a church and a university canteen, after months of talks with immigration authorities broke down.

Canada’s BC declares state of emergency as wildfires surge
The Canadian province of British Columbia (BC) has declared a state of emergency amid a surge in wildfires that have forced hundreds of people from their homes and could worsen in the coming days. According to a provincial wildfire tracker, 299 blazes were actively burning across BC on Tuesday afternoon, including 18 that were sparked during the previous two days.
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Great men theory

Do marxist really belive that if hitler wasn't born, 6 millions would still be dead at the end of world war 2?
That operation barbarossa would be a failure?
Or that if gorbachov wasn't born the soviet union would still fall?
Or that if trotsky succeded lenin the USSR would be the same thing as with Stalin?
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Porky Dick sucking

Why do so many proletarians admire the rich and direct their anger at experts, white collar workers, racial and religious outsiders, and literally anyone but porkoids?

Why do so many proles love the rich so much? And what can be done about this false consciousness?
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/Internet Trash General/

Please use this general thread for discussion of Youtube, Twitter, and other social media postings which don't justify their own thread. Try to keep this thread clean of spam and shitposting, it's everyone's responsibility to keep /leftypol/ and /ITG/ beautiful!
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Sapir–Whorf hypothesis

The hypothesis of linguistic relativity, also known as the Sapir–Whorf hypothesis, the Whorf hypothesis, or Whorfianism, is a principle suggesting that the structure of a language affects its speakers' worldview or cognition, and thus people's perceptions are relative to their spoken language.

Is radlib word policing based on the SWH and how scientific is it? is it idealist?
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colonialism and Post colonialism

Can you explain me why some "comrades" have an understanding of colonialism that has more to do with Gnosticism than Materialism?
Why colonialism has become the original sin ?
I often here even smart fellows end up in the rabbit hole with some spooky shit on "muh ancestors" "muh white people" "muh post colonial identity".
Why is colonialism worse than say slaves societies which non european countries had?
Every system (feudal, clan, slave ecc.) Has been imposed through conquering, war, competition, capitalism did the same. Colonialism is a consequence of capitalism.
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The Left IS Western Civilization!

The Left IS Western Civilization - Or rather Platonic Civilization.

Political wings can be the entirety of civilizations:
1) Where the opposing wing (Right) is chiefly responsible for the degradation and destruction of said civilization, the opposed wing (Left), by process of elimination IS it.
2) Where theorists of the opposing (Right) political wing betray the original context of the civilization for a rootless, reactionary mysticism, the opposed (Left) political wing IS it.
3) Where the opposing wing (Right, Left-Liberal) denounce the very founders of said civilization, the opposed wing (Left) IS it.
4) Where said political wing (left) has historically demonstrated the ability to rejuvenate that civilization, that wing IS it.
5) Despite ethnic differences from the original form of that civilization, by exemplifying its theories, a political wing (Left) may seize claim to and own that civilization as its true heir and thereby BECOME it.

Particular historical facts to the above premise:
i) Historically speaking and in the present, it is the world right wing that is responsible for the destruction of Western civilization, that is, Platonic Civilization (The civilization that embodies the Form of the Good by turning Philosophers-in-Training into Philosopher-Kings, like Lenin, Stalin). Just look at the amount of destruction Operation Barbarossa inflicted:
> The combined damage consisted of complete or partial destruction of 1,710 cities and towns, 70,000 villages/hamlets, 2,508 church buildings, 31,850 industrial establishments, 64,000 kilometres (40,000 mi) of railroad, 4,100 railroad stations, 40,000 hospitals, 84,000 schools, and 43,000 public libraries; leaving 25 million homeless. Seven million horses, 17 million cattle, 20 million pigs, 27 million sheep were also slaughtered or driven off. (The New York Times, 9 February 1946, Volume 95, Number 32158)
> 40000 hospitals, 84000 schools, 43000 public libraries
- Furthermore, consider the left tendency of raising literacy considerably (Russia, China, Cuba) whenever it gets power. It goes to the core of the Transformation of Philosopher into Philosopher-King, which is the Form of the Good, the whole essence of Platonic Civilization.
- Now consider that the current climate change crisis is a capitalist crisis. Also consider the amount of destruction American intervention does (Operation Condor, book burning in Chile, Cuba etc).
ii) Evola's theory, of the Right, is literally an attempt to Indianize the world away from the Platonic Kali Yuga. Think of the Brahmins chanting above the masses, mired in faeces, shitting in the streets. Evola betrayed the Platonic project for Indic, varna-based mysticism. The swastika of the Nazis and of Hindutva is not an accident. Modern India is the "utopia" (i.e. dystopia) rightists wish to turn Platonic civilization into. (On the Dark Age, from Revolt against the Modern World). Poo poo pee pee, Delta Covid farty fart.
iii) Popper, filthy socdem, denounces Plato, the whole founder of "Western Civilization", i.e. Platonic Civilization. (Popper, K.R. The Open Society and its Enemies. p. 65). Stephane Courtois, liberal democrat, further defames Plato:
> Courtois states that "[w]e must make a distinction between the doctrine of communism and its practice. As a political philosophy, communism has existed for centuries, even millennia."[8]:2 Courtois cites Plato's Republic and Thomas More as communist examples of what he terms utopian philosophy (Courtois, Stéphane (ed.). The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression. Harvard University Press. pp. 92–97, 116–121. )
iv) Look at the French Revolution and the October Revolution. Like a phoenix from the ashes, the Kingdom of France and the Russian Empire were reborn ultimately as the French republic and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics. Look at the Great Qing, the Republic of China and pay attention to how through all the British, French and Japanese imperialism, under left theory they rejuvenated.
v) China, despite being Han, embodies Plato's project upon this earth. Likewise, the Soviets were Slavs, Turkics, Jews etc yet nonetheless embodied it. The revolutionary French were the result of a Frankish-Germanic and Gallic-Romance admixture. None of these peoples were Hellenic nor Greek, yet they lived up to Plato's ideals.

The Left IS Western (Platonic) Civilization!
1) Rightism in Barbarossa, American imperialism indicate it is the negation of that civilization. By process of elimination, the Left IS Western (Platonic) Civilization!
2) Evolism of the Right betrayed the Platonic project of Western Civilization in favour of the Vedic one. That leaves the Left becoming it.
3) Popper and Courtois denounce Plato's project, our project of Western Civilization. Therefore, we are it.
4) Wherever the Left has worked, we have brought those civilizations back from the brink - Revolutionary France, the Soviet Union, the People's Republic of China. From the direst straits of French Revolutionary Wars, the Russian Civil War and WWI and the aftermath of the Opium Wars and the Sino-Japanese Wars, the Left alone has rejuvenated those direly crippled civilization. We ARE Western (Platonic) Civilization
5) Although the French, October and Chinese revolutions were never Hellenic, they all demonstrably lived up to Plato's ideals. We ARE Western (Platonic) Civilization. In fact, China is the true form of Western Civilization that Gandhi said would be a good idea on this planet.

<TL;DR: It's not we leftists that are destroying Western (Platonic) Civilization it's the rightists.

Additionally, look at the Spengler pic. Look at the pessimism and negativity within it. Spengler, of the right, severely threatens the Platonic project with that filthy, unthinking pessimism. Spenglerism and Hitler were inextricably linked.

The Left IS Western Civilization!
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Critical Race Theory

Can anyone please explain to me what the fuck this even is? I've tried watching videos on it and I still don't know what it's supposed to be about. At this point I'm not even sure if it even exists? Is it a glowop?
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What's the deal with reactionary "communists"

What's the deal with reactionary "communists"
Mandatory reading before answering
(It's old and inaccurate in some ways but dude who wrote that invented the "marxism" term so pay attention.)

I'm talking about people defending family, monogamy and this whole load of shit.

So what now, we're supposed to uphold a capitalist social construction because some state crushed by imperialism said so? Doesn't sound communist to my ears tbh.

Weird pic because it's late and I don't care anymore.
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Has terrorism ever been sucessfully usef to destabilize a country? I have heard of hundreds of groups like this from the 60s to the 90s from all sides of the political spectrum, but they never seem to have gotten anywhere. Is there an example of this strategi unsuccessfully sparking a revolt/uprising or is it just revolutionary idealism? I know it's useless in a neoliberal society, but what about an authoritarian dictatorship with a history of abuse? Is this counter productive and has it ever done anything other than delegitimize a cause and get people killed/tortured/imprisoned end legitimize thw regime's repression?
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Describing the phenomenon of false consciousness

False consciousness is generated by the capitalist mode of production which requires as a condition for its functioning the reification of its economic categories. This reification is done by individuals that operate within the capitalist mode of production as members of classes, groups of people that relate to each other socially based on their roles in capitalist production. Class consciousness develops from self-consciousness as individuals identify their material interests as proletarians or capitalists. An individual, as a member of a social class, can be said to harbor a false consciousness when their material interests are obscured by ideology. False consciousness prevents the individual's self-consciousness from developing into class consciousness, a process which on a mass scale prevents the formation of a conscious social class.

The development of false consciousness stifles the struggles between classes, which occur due to the conflicting objective interests of each social class. By preventing the consciousness of the proletariat from interfering with the fulfillment of the material interests of the bourgeoisie, false consciousness directly protects the well-being of a particular social class, the capitalist class. Class-conscious proletarians aware of false consciousness and of their own material interests should consider the abolition of false consciousness a necessary political action for the complete fulfillment of their interests - a necessary action in the process of becoming the dominant class in society.

So far, the concept of false consciousness has been limited in that it has explained only the intelligible social relations of production. Those intelligible relations still structure our thinking, but mass consciousness from the 19th century until today has do-cohered and metamorphosed to the point that it is no longer possible to describe the content of false consciousness using those categories. To explain the source and content of false consciousness, it isn't sufficient to point to the fetishism of commodities, the capitalist phenomenon of interpreting social relations as relations between things, because the false consciousness generated in capitalism is no longer constricted to the domain of production, it has dominated all other aspects of self-consciousness. The traditional Marxist explanation presented, which focuses on commodity production and all of its associated social relations, does not explain false consciousness with respect to the other elements of self-consciousness.

This Marxist sketch of false consciousness does not even attempt a complete explanation, since for the Marxist the ideological structure of every mode of production is the determining effect on all other sources of ideology operating under that mode of production, making it the only object that needs to be explained in order to describe false consciousness. Whether this belief is true is irrelevant for describing false consciousness today, because it cannot be explained in the intelligible categories of capitalist production that the Marxist explanation requires. As stated previously, anyone who is class conscious should be attempting to destroy false consciousness, but the question is: how can we get rid of it if we can hardly describe it?
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Google results disappearing when it comes to communism's achievements

Yeah, so I'm not trying to push any kind of conspiracy theory, but I've noticed the following. I've been google (mostly image-) searching the same words (e.g. "USSR real wages") which used to bring up real results in the first row for like 10 years.

Now? Nope, none, maybe second page results. (If any.)

Is there an actual censorship going on? Google is literally dumbing down its search results. But is this anything new? Jimmy Dore, for example, has been complaining that his youtube subscribers keep on reporting (when the Syria shit was going on) that they get "unsubbed" even tho they hit "sub" like weeks ago.

Since both are owned by Alphabet Inc. I think there's a trend here. But please, tell me if I'm a retard. I noticed this same shit with China-related stuff as well. Like I want to search for how China's GDP/capita changed since 1900, then 5 years ago I had a graph or sg, but now it's just fucking blank.

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Is war the most profitable venture and lifeline that capitalism has ever since the Great Depression?

It seems like war and conflict is the only way for capitalism to be able to raise the rate of profit because of the mass destruction of capital.
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Hilo general Latinoamérica--LatAm general thread

The other thread was full.
Anything Latinoamérica related, let's unite in discussion while the CIA-funded military hasn't decide to torture us to death for the time being.
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Russian Thread

Please come back Rusanon Comrades! Save us from the polyp and lolbert raids.

Я вас категорически приветствую.

- A westoid who misses you.
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I came here to make all of you a question.
Who of you is the most communistier? Explain why your more communist than the other posters of /leftypol/.
I just wanted to ask that, discuss.
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Are reparations based and should leftist support it?
I know some leftypolack here opposed but i wanna know why would you.
To who should go reparations? Only africans?
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News 7/20/21

Police Motor Pool Firebombed by Dutch Anarchist Group, Revolutionary Resistance
Militant anarchists in the Netherlands have claimed the July 15th attack targeting a police motor pool with an improvised incendiary device/explosive device (IID/IED) in the small Dutch town of Gemert. The detonation of the device and the ensuing conflagration destroyed at least one police squad car and seriously damaged two others. The burning vehicles were discovered around 4 a.m. and extinguished.

Kurdish forces claim to have killed nine Turkish invading soldiers as battle rages in Iraqi Kurdistan
KURDISH guerillas claimed on Sunday night to have killed nine Turkish soldiers in raids in the Avashin mountains of Iraqi Kurdistan as fierce fighting continues. According to Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK) sources, two military camps and a rocket launcher were destroyed in last Friday’s operation.

Duque isolated as many in Colombia go on strike again
Colombia’s far-right President Ivan Duque found himself isolated on Monday as mayors and protesters prepared for the 84th day of anti-government protests. Bogota Mayor Claudia Lopez gave the indigenous people from southwest Colombia a warm welcome as they entered the city to take part in the Independence Day protests.

Mexican Journalist Shot Dead in Morelia City
A group of armed men opened fire on him in the facility parking lot and drove away through Madero Poniente Avenue. In the attack, an ice-paddle salesman was also hurt. Michoacan State Prosecutor’s Office already arrested three suspects on the La Huerta road, less than three kilometers from the crime scene. The detainees, who held firearms, are currently at the Intentional Homicide Specialized Investigation Unit.

US senators introduce bill aimed at reigning in White House's war powers
Three US senators, who have long campaigned against the White House's war powers, introduced wide-ranging legislation on Tuesday aimed at curbing the president's authority to issue arms sales, send troops into combat, and declare national emergencies without congressional approval.

Communist party joins coastal coalition talks
The push to establish a coalition of political parties at the Coast ahead of the 2022 elections has received a boost after the Communist Party of Kenya (CPK) joined the movement. … CPPC will deal with the political agenda while CIDI will handle the economic and social agenda of the region. This is expected to lead to the amalgamation of the five parties’ plans and aspirations.

Russian Tanks Move to Afghan Border Ahead of Drills
Russian tanks stationed at Moscow's base in Tajikistan have arrived at training grounds near the border with Afghanistan ahead of army drills next month, the Defense Ministry said Tuesday. Russia will stage military drills from Aug. 5 to 10 with Tajikistan and Uzbekistan at the Harb-Maidon training ground near the border with Afghanistan where the Taliban has led a lightning offensive against government troops.

CPI(M) will not shield guilty in loan scam: district secy.
The Communist Party of India (Marxist) will not protect its members on the committee of Karuvannur Service Cooperative Bank, near Irinjalakuda, if they are found guilty in the loan scam, party district secretary M.M. Varghese has said.

Activists arrested in Quezon City are humanitarian workers – group
Karapatan-Caraga said that Gomez and Velasco are both engaged humanitarian work over the years. In fact, the group said that “officers and personnel of some of government agencies in the region know them personally as they have coordinated activities particularly with the Department of Social Welfare and Development and local government units in the Surigao and Agusan provinces and several municipalities.”

Health Workers Begin Indefinite Strike against UP Govt's New Transfer Policy amid Pandemic
During the strike, the health workers staged a protest at the CMO and shouted slogans against the Yogi Adityanath-led government. They said until the government accepts their demand, they will not return to work. The statewide call for a work boycott was given by the Chikitsa Swasthya Mahasangh, a federation of eight healthcare associations.
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Thoughts on the ideas of Henry George? Seems pretty based to me. Marx was critical of his ideas, agreeing with them in some basic respects but viewing it as a limp half-measure. I disagree with Marx here. George does not have the stigma Marx carries, and his idea is simple and utterly agreeable to all but the most hardened of porkies: people keep the value earned from everything they produce and unearned income from the ownership of land is all that is to be taxed. No sort of wishy-washy neoliberalist critique that taxing land would disincentivize development, land is a necessity and will be developed in more proactive ways if land speculation is impracticable because simply sitting on it will not yield a profit. As this would be a tax on "unimproved land value."

The masses, right or left, except porky would ultimately get behind this idea had it any currency in modern political discourse. As capitalism has curdled over in recent decades and porky has tightened his grip on the levers of power, unearned income is taxed more favorably than earned income.

Georgism is a great hedge between capitalism and socialism. Had Marx saw it more clearly, it could be a viable and massively popular intermediate stage between capitalism and socialism. No income or sales tax? Who would say no to that?

It's clear that unlike an idealistic, huge change such as a massive revolution, popular, uncontroversial practical concrete steps to tip the scales and erode porky's power have a much better chance of putting the first foot forward.
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American Civil War v2

If foreign powers are in fact spreading radical messages across America in an attempt to destabilize the country and start a race war, would it work? Would anti-capitalists benefit?
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South Asia and Desi General

A general thread for all South Asian related discussion.
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Asiatic mode of production (AMP)

What a fucking Eurocentric cop out.
Is this the proof that Marxism is Eurocentric?
How do you justify this shit?
Are the 5 stages of history bunch of bullshit too?
Do Brainlets still justify this shit?
Did and actual AMP existed in some form?
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So your telling me that the united states had thousands to millions of armed and trained infantry, cannons, fully automatic rifles, bombs , molotovs, battle jets, missiles, flamethrowers and chemical weapons but somehow lost to some rice farmers with ak47s whom got their weapons from some communist shithole in the 1970s?
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Why japan industrialized faster than the USSR and China

It's not because japan was capitalist hell it's not even because of the martial plan, oddly enough it would be laziness. One major aspect that's quickly forgotten about the industrial revolution was that the rapid expansion in the production of material goods was triggered by the embracement of better technology and a willingness to find faster and faster methods of extracting more wealth out of the earths resources with less work, thousands of years of slavery had little impact on the worlds global poverty and starvation rates compared to the industrialization of agriculture and likewise with Japan's economy the rapid growth and increase within the material conditions of Japan's citizens could be described as the byproduct of that embracement of modern technology. It's been documented all over the planet that workers are generally more productive when they are labouring under better conditions and with the ussr and the ccp it was frequently reported that workers worked for little or no pay often times in poor and dangerous factories for long hours in cities that felt more like prisons than financial and industrial hubs of civilization and likewise the millions of socialists whom toiled endlessly for their cause would soon get outdone by an island nation with barely any resources on it
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Why do people still deny the holocaust?

Nazis literally kept records of fucking everything that went on in those camps, it was already documented that nazis had deliberately made propaganda films of those camps portraying them as resorts for jews to hide what was actually going on in their, starvation and rampant illness was one of the leading causes of death next to gas chambers in those camps especially late in the war when the nazis were running low on funds. Yes 6 million did fucking die in their along with another 9 million non jews comprising of soviet and north western european prisoners and gypsies, you have to be a complete spergeloard schizo to miss this
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Colombian Protests Thread - Dia de la Independencia Edition

Protests, marches and demonstrations were planned for July 20th, which is Independence Day for Colombia, a long time ago by labor unions and left wing politicians and they are kicking off today. This seems to have rekindled the spark to do nationwide protests against the Colombian government. It's still early in the morning here so don't expect many police confrontations just yet.

Spanish sources:

English sources:
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ideal social network

what would be the ideal social network site???

Imageboards (ex: 4chan, *chan “alt chans”):
• Anonymous
• No registration
• OP requiring attachment forces content/memes to be produced
• Pruning catalog keeps server space needed to minimum
• Lack of upvote system reduces groupthink and disincentivizes non-originality
• Anonymity + siloing by board centered board identity over personality
• Linear reply structure that requires minimal interaction to read
• Effortposts that do happen are often phenomenal quality
• Attracts schizos, racists and “free speech” people who have been banned from other SM for good reason
• Dated UX/UI (mid 2000s approx.) loved by users but retro looking and unappealing to “normies”.
• Dumb curation based on last bump time, incentivizing bait posting (probably this problem shared with other SM)
• Effortposts rare and disincentivized

Notes: Imageboards are in theory fantastic as the fact that they have a limit (usually around 350 threads per board) reduces hosting costs, and also incentivizes people to make interesting posts, because posts that do not garner replies will quickly sink and “fall off” aka get pruned from the catalog. This is also likely what gives chans their edgy character as a “provocative” or edgy post will be more likely to garner the replies needed to keep the thread near the top of the catalog. This can be a problem for quality as a well thought out long form “blog” style post may garner less responses and be far more effort than a 1-2 line “bait” post with an intentionally bad or controversial opinion. In this sense “trolling” and “baiting” are nearly built into the incentive structure of imageboards by definition. Some imageboards try to combat this by imposing a minimum character count for new threads (ex: 200 characters) but this seems like a bit of a hack and is contrary to the overall logic of the medium. Many of the “cons” of imageboards are pros in the eyes of long time users, such as its dated, non mobile friendly UI, and edginess, are seen as needed to preserve the status of imageboard users as outsiders. This creates a unique and culturally prolific space but at the same time dooms imageboards’ mainstream appeal.

• Algorithmic timeline microtargets content to users, increasing engagement.
• Social connections keep people tied to platform.
• Makes a ton of money
• Reveals personal information about name, job, location, gender, personal relationships status, friends, family etc.
• Incredibly personality centric

Facebook’s business model is pretty simple. Get people to sign up with their personal information and connect with friends (and maybe someone attractive you briefly met at a house party). Then take that detailed personal information and use it to microtarget advertisements at exactly the right demographic for advertisers and political campaigns. Mark Zuckerberg does not believe in privacy. Before facebook, people mainly used screennames and aliases online. It was facebook that changed this, so that people used their real names and faces online. Which is what he considers one of his big accomplishments. Needless to say, I hated this development and I’ve hated the culture it created ever since. Zuckerberg says he made the world more “open and connected”. Another way of saying that is more surveilled and more bothered by busybodies. Anonymity is freedom. There’s a reason every year young people leave small towns across this land to move to big cities, because living in a place where everyone is in your business all the time and a bunch of gossiping people is a prison-lite environment. In a small town, even if you change, evolve, and become a totally different person, people will still remember and think about the things you did as a teenager or when you were twelve. I hate facebook because he’s turned the whole world into one big small town, from which there is no escape. People say the internet is making the world a smaller place, but has anyone ever stopped to ask if its getting too small? But yes, it does make a lot of money. And all they had to do was ruin the internet and possibly break politics to do it. Probably the only thing facebook does well is the algorithmic timeline which increases engagement.

• Mobile friendly design
• Decent discoverability
• Hashtags
• Decent editor UI for posting
• Diverse OP content (images, animated gifs, videos)
• Pseudo-anonymity, except for blue checkmarks
• Personality centric
• Meme ideologies
• Character limit incentivizes un nuanced “hot takes”
• Forced mobile style UI on desktop (“mobile first”)
• Nonlinear reply structure confusing, forced clickthrough
• Quote Replies
• Notifications mechanic incentivizes performative takes for subs/likes

Notes: Marginally better than twitter but still bad. Character limit makes sense from a mobile first perspective, after all who’s trying to read a 20,000 word thesis on a smartphone screen, however has the side effect of making people reduce their takes to the shortest, most un nuanced, un supported version of itself, which in effect reduces takes to “X bad, Y good” or sarcastic or cryptic one liners. Trump was a master of twitter due to his brain being small enough that his thoughts only require 240 characters anyway. Workaround is creating a twitter thread which is less readable than unbroken text and looks bad anyway, plus people have been trained by the platform to only read short takes and will tune out essay length twitter threads anyway due to twitter induced ADD. Non linear tree style reply structure is confusing and requires too much clicking to read through. The positive thing is the infinite scroll provides a constant stream of content, if the person limits their interaction to scrolling and liking only (not replying or reading replies). Editor for posts is far superior to any non facebook platform. Quote retweet allow “dunking” and incentivize leaching off original content, “reply guys” who quote tweet someone else and add their own vapid or sarcastic commentary. Read somewhere that the twitter engineer that invented the quote retweet regrets it (as he should). Even regular retweeting is pretty lazy. If the only purpose of retweeting is outsourcing discoverability to the user, a better mechanism is needed. While imageboards incentivize creating content that gets a lot of replies, twitter incentivizes getting lots of likes, in fact a high reply to like ratio is considered a bad thing “getting ratio’d” as a reply with no like is a proxy for dislike. So while imageboards do not distinguish between positive and negative interaction, twitter and all other like based systems implicitly encourage “performative” content creation/takes a.k.a users saying the things that they think other people will like, to therefore increase their own visibility, celebrity, etc. Rather than saying their honest opinion, if indeed they have any. Exporting Los Angeles style “trying to become famous” culture to the rest of the world. This is a cancerous dynamic. Should avoid like/dislike systems at all costs, esp. as complex feelings are reduced to a binary attribute (like/dislike). Possible side effect = polarization?.

• Pseudo-anonymity
• Communities based on interest not personality
• Generally medium to medium-high quality content
• Post History visible reduces anonymity
• Branching reply structure
• Terrible UI
• OP too short (as a “link aggregator” its often just a link to a news article)
• Likes/Dislikes, Karma, Gold, Silver, and the rest of that bullshit

Notes: Reddit is a website with a decent concept but a bad UI and worse userbase. Yes, as a channer the typical image of a “redditor” comes to mind. A limp dick neckbeard soyboy with a rick and morty t-shirt. Reddit is the Thomas Edison of websites, its users steal all their content from people that actually make original content, repost it, and then act like they invented the whole thing. A perfect encapsulation of middle class bland yuppie suburban consumer culture, a circlejerk which produces nothing original and never will. Part of the broader disneyfication and pg-13ification of a sterile and desexed pop culture, with a good dose of smarmy smarter than thou smugness and milquetoast center-left politics thrown on top. Peak midwit. Certain subreddits are niche and good. Reddit evolved to replace a lot of the old school bulletin board forums for niche gaming/auto/etc interests. At least its based on shared interests and not personality based drama. Like/Dislike and karma system encourages the same hivemind and performative posting BS as with twitter. At worst as a “link aggregator” it simply acts as a comment system for articles on websites that don’t have their own comment section. Not much to be borrowed here mechanically, except maybe allowing users to make a http link as their op as an alternative to videos/images.

• Pseudonymous option
• Potentially very high quality content
• High word count
• Low discoverability
• Bad on mobile

Notes: Blogs and blog-like sites like Tumblr are actually surprisingly good. Unlike the transient nature of twitter posts, people tend to put effort into blogposts and even include sources from time to time. The only problem is that blogs tend to be separate websites and even when on the same domain (ex: wordpress.com) they tend to lack discoverability. Tumblr at its peak in the early 2010s seemed like a transitional website, a sort of nu-myspace. The downside of high character count is that blogs, regardless of “responsive” design, tend to read badly on phones and don’t lend themselves well to casual use.

• Extremely potent mandatory recommender system driven content
• Short video clips lend well to casual use
• Video format more accessible to dimwits and tired people than walls of text
• Often cancer tier ultranormie content, on par with instagram
• Primarily consumed by children and teens

Notes: Tiktok’s content may be cancer but it’s format is genius. The most addicting app of the modern era. Instead of allowing people to search for content but adding recommender systems like youtube, tiktok leans in and puts it on steroids by making the recommender system the main way to access content. This is like increasing the nicotine content 3x.

• Audiovisual and audio content easier to digest
• AV/A content easier to listen to while moving (i.e. commuting or walking)
• Works for both long and short content
• Recommender Algorithm very good
• Video storage takes a ton of space on disk.
• Streaming content in a timely manner tricky, practically mandates CDN use
• Responses text-only

Notes: The second most popular social media network. Takes way too much storage for video. On the plus side the recommendation engine is scarily good and addictive. AV content can be consumed with walking, driving, etc. while reading text for that is pretty difficult. Object storage and delivery (files, videos, images) is a usually overlooked aspect of these sites. Responses being text only is listed as a con, but it can be a pro in the sense that it saves storage space and it encourages being OP-centric in an r9k-ish way.

Runner ups:

Linkedin – facebook for jobseekers, professionals, and hustle culture psychopaths.
Snapchat – fancy texts that delete themselves.
Pinterest – Not familiar enough to comment but looks like a glorified booru for middle aged women
Telegram/Signal/Whatsapp/etc. - Texting that’s ““secure””.
Medium – Blogging for people who are too lazy to set up their own blog. Often mistaken for legitimate “news”.

reposted from: https://leftypol.org/tech/res/10238.html
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I am praying for this to NOT explode

Man I would be so UPSET and heartbroken if this ship exploded with a glorious, courageous and exceptional human in it like Jeff bezos. Lord please guide this plane back to earth safely intact.

I will cry if I see this explode on my tv live

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Reformism Challenge

Suggest 3 reforms that you believe to be both desirable and immediately practicable by your countries government. Develop on your reasoning as much or as little as you please.
>Nooooooo I'm not a reformist I'm a true and honest revolutionary I have no interest in playing around the edges I'm only interested in how everyone will do exactly what I want after the revolution
Marx wrote a list of 10 policies which were immediately practicable and desirable. I'm only asking you for 3. If you really can't think of any, you need to spend more time reading and less time posting.
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Hello, my name is Trump Support-er, and I hate liberals. I mean I really hate them. Democrats, liberals, conservatives, most socdems and demsocs. Really anyone who voted for a Democrat in the past four years. Sorry I used to make exceptions for "harm reduction" anarchists or whatever, but I'm very drained from being called a subhuman constantly by normie Biden supporters.

My question is, what is the most effective way to own the libs? To really destroy liberalism and make the libs cry and seethe?

Fascism? I don't really care about "the white race" or any right wing culture war things (Jews, trans, vidya). Doubt most people in the US would go along with it anyway, so it would fail.

Collapsism? Seems like it might take too long, be too complicated. Just US centric, then neo-China rules, which is based of course. Global, then industrial society never recovers. Of course many libs are owned in the process. But enough? and how quickly? I don't want to wait 20 years for climate change to destroy the world.

Accelerationism? The insane kind. AI assembling itself systematically exterminates life on Earth. Very thorough owning of the libs, very "up my alley" interests wise. But how long will this take? And what if life isn't destroyed, but instead is simply deterritorialized completely? Are the libs still owned if they're just turned into eggs, or whatever? Compare and contrast "Biosphere dissolves into technosphere" (Meltdown) and "No more human beings, only desiring machines" (Neo-Futurism). Which is worse? For the libs, I mean.

Maoism/Stalinism? This would be kindof a "right wing accelerationism" that is, accelerating leftism. You could also put "bioleninism" (identitarianism/"wokeness") here. We get the most extreme leftism, and ruin everyone to the right of that, which includes every liberal. Those of you pining for a communist revolution, what is your sect, and how many liberals will be thrown in the gulags? (You will be too) I know, and do not care, so long as liberals suffer. That being said, I can recite Marx, Lenin, Adorno, Foucault. Whatever sect you are, I can try and blend in.

Posadism? Collapsism, but funnier and quicker. Thermonuclear apocalypse to own the libs. Bonus that blue cities will be hit first.

What do you guys think? What ideology should I be to ensure the largest amounts of liberal tears? (But the whole point of accelerationism is that it doesn't matter whether you want it or not) I know that. Which one is more *likely* to own the libs?
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Base and Superstructure analysis of biological evolution

I've been thinking back and forth about this a lot from time to time.
There is definitely a materialistic analysis of natural evolution based on this model.

In my analysis, I consider life and genes to be the base. It is the things we have at an individual level that really makes us who we are. It defines the next generation and what comes next. Agents of this world. This includes any other living animal, but also at an individual level rather than species level.

The superstructure is the environment, which includes other living organisms as well. That is because living organisms affect the environment as well.
From the great oxygenation event to modern humans' effects on the environment. All these affect the evolution of other species.
Phenotype is also part of the environment since your phenotype can be influenced by the environment in real-time. For example, if your heart breaks down, you die and become a genetic deadend. However, if a pacemaker is installed, you can live and maybe also reproduce.

One problem I have is that I cannot think of any implications or use for this analysis as of yet. Any ideas, criticism, or anything?
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Leave Caleb maupin a 5 star review if you have amazon

Show support to our borger king bro trashing breadtube stupidity.

You guys are going to read the book anyway for free online

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Marxist History / Historiography

Where is it possible to find modern and materialist history of things?
Why everytime i search for something I always have to to through pile of positivist brainlets?
I want a library full of Materialist Analysis of history. Why i cannot find out history of the Mongol Empire and Lamaism without reading through some micky mouse shit about
>lmao they chinks they think like dat
>lmao das tradition mane
>lmao religion says x therfore y happen
why there is no fucking historian who explain the material basis of these thoughts of tradition in the first place? No wonder people are geographically and historically illiterate
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socialism will win !

This is the thread for good news.

People have a tendency to focus on what is going wrong and miss out on what is going well.
I'm also suspecting that there is a doomer astroturf going on.

To counteract this a little i want to ask you to post uplifting news.
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Anti-Work | How To Not Work?

Hey lads,

I've been reading a lot of post-left anti-work and post-civ stuff lately. I've decided that my life goal is to escape wage slavery as soon as possible. I actually went ahead and put in my two weeks' notice today; unfortunately it's just to go to a slightly less shittier job—I'll still be a 9–5 drone albeit with better pay, PTO, and actually simply working 9–5/no weekends instead of 9–6 and weekends.

Anyways, how does one escape wageslavery? I've analyzed some options and they all seem unappealing to me. Here goes:


This option depends on hyperinflation not happening, society not collapsing, the USA economy keeping steady for a few decades, and so forth. Too risky, and you still have to waste away your youth and wageslave until your 40's while living like a miser. It's the "safe" option, but no guts, no glory?


Not really an option because my parents won't support me. Plus, I don't want to live with my parents as an adult. Lastly, I'd rather take a more proactive approach to achieving freedom than languishing away at home.


Based, but in the end it's working all the same. Being a drug dealer is like running a small business, only you have to deal dangerous customers as a bonus. Learning how to hack/fraud/etc. would take the same if not more effort than learning how to code and getting a non-illegal tech job.

Does /leftypol/ have any ideas? How the fuck do we escape slavery?
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/leftypol/ told me i should always support Nationalism outside the imperial core, but isn't it a simplistic view?
When is Nationalism good and when is it bad?
Why the iranian revolution based but the Afghan struggle against a foreign country not?
Why is it ok for Iran but not for Checenya?
Isn't the Yugolav balcanization also a struggle for self determination? How about the prague spring or the hungarian counter revolution?
Where do i draw the line?
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Jeff Bezos is going to the fucking space

Jeff Bezos is going to space just to show his power and shit.
ITT we pray so it's spaceship fucking explodes epic style and he fucking dies in an infernal fire.
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Will things get better when Africa develop

Jobs get outsourced to the ones willing to do it for less and or when the current workers ask for higher wages
I think it goes likes West -> Asia -> Africa

So when even Africa is finished and they too start asking for higher wages, What happens? Jobs return everywhere? Porky gets tired moving places and finally gives in to africa? They do a little bombing in some region to bring them down and get lower wages again? Some currency fuckery?

Also why did the black skin bad! shit originate in the first place? Was it a way to demoralize africans to take their resources? I mean it's insane to just look at some dude who looks different than you and become antagonistic. I know it's a slow racist snow pile that took many centuries to become what it is but who was the first CEO of racist (against black people)
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Why the hell are birthrates on the decline fucking everywhere? Even in africa the major causation of high birthrates is low access to contraceptives and abortion and even then their birthrates are on the general decline every year… it's not even like humanity hasn't had worse periods to have kids than now but seemingly enough no ones fucking and I'm worried about becoming a single father with 1 adopted son because of this retarded shit…
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Popular Revolution Is Myth - Authoritarianism İs Necessary

There is a big redpill for you; none of the revolutions were popular and most of them were enforced to masses by a group of small people. That's includes most of those well-known revolutions too, where opressed masses uprise against opressors. At them, those revolutions only made by group of ""smart/bright people"" who tired by bastards; and they enforced their rule to the masses while masses despised them despite they made their conditions more better
I think a good examples are Ataturk and Lee Kuan Yew. At there in Turkey, reactionaries always use the argument that Ataturk was a dictator and didn't care about what masses think; but it's a good thing because if he wasn't a dictator and did what masses want ,Turkey would have no difference from any MidEast country. He had give many good things for masses, including "first right to vote for woman in world" but there was still many mass-reactionary uprisings against his rule, which wanted "ottofag" back. Because of those reasons, we progressives in Turkey are "mostly" elitist and have a saying that "for the people despite the people". Even some anarchists knows the fact that all progress in humanity is made by small group of people and not by masses. Lee Kuan Yew is another example, he has a quote that "I am often accused of interfering in the private lives of citizens. Yes, if I did not, had I not done that, we wouldn’t be here today." and that's true. Singapore is a dictatorship today and that's why they are very good. People of Singapore does have best-healthcare, best-education, skyhigh home-ownership, very green city, best-security, one of the best countries for woman, very racially-diverse and hell, even the free-food;which is not even fucking Norway does have
Because of that, how you mostly care about making masses leftists is totally impossible and wrong. What you only need is Max ~%15~ of revolutionaries compared to society. What you should do is taking the power and enforcing communism to the masses. Yes, you should enforce socialism to the masses; even with violance
Don't care about their thoughts, revolution is more important than what masses think
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Israel is about to go to civil war

Over some tasty choco ice cream. Well /leftypol/ Who is in the wrong here?


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>the founders of the US saw political parties as the ultimate evil to be avoided at all costs
>despite this, political parties had emerged before the Washington administration had ended
>meanwhile, for the entire duration of the first french republic, there were amorphous, free-flowing "factions" as in groups of people with shared values or political interests, but never centrally-administered, disciplined "parties" in the british or american sense
Why is this? Was there some material or procedural difference?
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Soviet Wars 1917-1923(31)

A million sides, constant changes of allies, a bunch of events - sort of the First World War in the South, in the Crimea and in the Urals, the latest fleet operations against the Germans and the Entente in the Baltic, literally Syria in the Ukraine, the Red Army attacking British tanks with bayonets near Arkhangelsk, the Wild West with Basmachi in Central Asia, Latin American partisanship in Siberia, White Genghis Khan is plotting something, White Czechs are fleeing from the Red Czechs with tsarist gold, finally the fight against anti-Soviet uprisings and simply hellish gang violence.

Red, White, Green, Black, Basmachi
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Is it in line with DiaMat? I see it used by a lot of structural marxists that have infamously trouble accepting dialectics, so maybe overdetermination is indeed a revision from Marx?
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Anarchism is just liberal bohemianism. Juvenile impulses towards a "punk rock" lifestyle. That's it.

"Mutual aid" will never overcome systemic challenges
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News 7/19/21

Nicaraguans celebrate anniversary of Sandinista revolution, vowing to repel renewed imperialist aggression
Thousands gathered in the capital Managua, which became a sea of black and red, the colours of the Sandinista National Liberation Front (FLSN,) which governs the Central American country. They were marking the anniversary of the 1979 overthrow of the US-backed Somoza dictatorship, a brutal regime characterised by executions, mass poverty for the people and political corruption.

Two political upstarts notch upset wins in Chile's presidential primaries
On the left, underdog Boric, 35, a lawmaker with more moderate views who hails from the Patagonia region of far-southern Chile, garnered 60% of the vote in the primary, soundly defeating Communist party contender and Santiago-region Mayor Daniel Jadue.

More losses for retirees and pensioners predicted in Uruguay
Daniel Baldassari, secretary general of Uruguay's National Organization of Retirees and Pensioners (ONAJPU), on Monday warned that there will be more losses in purchasing power for them with the Government's budget project in Parliament.

UK reaffirms backing for Guaido as Venezuela president ahead of $1 bln gold case
The British government reiterated on Monday that it recognises opposition figure Juan Guaido as Venezuela's president, a move aimed at quashing a bid by the Nicolas Maduro-backed Venezuelan central bank to repatriate nearly $1 billion of its gold stored in London.

Keir Starmer plots ban for ‘poisonous’ Labour groups and Corbynistas
Sir Keir Starmer will move to purge “poisonous” campaign groups from the Labour Party this week as he tries to further isolate the party’s far left. Labour’s ruling National Executive Committee (NEC) will be asked to proscribe four groups associated with the party that promote communism, claim that antisemitism allegations are overblown and demand that the former leader Jeremy Corbyn has the Labour whip restored.

Die Linke under fire for supporting German Communist Party election ban
GERMANY’S left-wing Die Linke party came under fire today for voting in favour of banning the German Communist Party (DKP) from standing in the country’s federal elections. … Only the Green Party voted against a proposal by Federal Returning Officer Georg Thiel to revoke the party’s status, a move DKP officials said was designed to crush the party financially.

India’s Supreme Court demands release of activist who said ‘cow dung doesn’t cure Covid’ on Facebook
On Monday, a bench of Justices DY ChandraFAGGOT and MR Shah deemed that the continued detention of Leichombam Erendro would be unlawful under the country’s constitution and a violation of his human rights. The Supreme Court justices ordered that Manipur prison authorities release the activist, who has been held for two months, before 5pm on Monday (10:30am GMT).

Punjab: Teachers and Pensioners Upset with Congress Government
Thousands of government school teachers accompanied by pensioners held a massive protest against the Punjab government on Sunday, rejecting the 6th Pay Commission report. Under the banner of Sanjha Adhyapak Morcha and Punjab-UT Employees and Pensioners Sanjha Front, the protestors claimed that the 6th Pay Commission recommendations would enable reduction in their salaries and allowances.

Political Prisoner Varavara Rao’s Family Surveilled Using Israeli Firm’s Spyware
This includes Hany Babu, assistant professor from Delhi University, rights activist Vernon Gonsalves, academic and civil liberties activist Anand Teltumbde, retired professor Shoma Sen, journalist and rights activist Gautam Navlakha, lawyer Arun Ferreira, and academic and activist Sudha Bharadwaj, the report said.

Israeli settlers break into al-Aqsa compound a day before Eid al-Adha
Dozens of far-right Israeli settlers broke into Jerusalem's al-Aqsa compound on Monday, flanked by Israeli police, one day before the Muslim feast of Eid al-Adha. Monday also marks the Day of Arafah, which is the holiest day in the Islamic calendar. Israeli security units restricted the entry of Palestinians to the compound and flew a drone to monitor the area as the settlers entered.

Labeling NDF a terror organization will lead to Duterte rigging Eleksyon 2022 –Sison
In a statement, Sison explained that the designation will allow Duterte to stay in power together with his daughter, Davao City Mayor Sara Duterte, and prevent his arrest for crimes against humanity on the prospective warrant that may be issued by the International Criminal Court.

Two dams collapse in Inner Mongolia, flooding farmland
Hulunbuir’s city government said on its WeChat account that 16,660 people had been affected, with 21,775 hectares (53,807 acres) of farmland submerged. Bridges and other transport infrastructure had also been destroyed. Footage posted on Chinese social media showed one of the dams being completely swept away by the water, inundating nearby fields.
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I don't see POC complain about ”oppressive governments” and ”totalitarian regimes” to the same extent as these white radlibs do around the clock, maybe if they left their cushy basements and went to the third world and noticed that anarchism wouldn't bring about the instantaneous change that they think it'd, then they wouldn't peddle the nonsense they do. There are regional difference in the extent of which anarchists have formed varying large movements, but nowhere to the scope of necessity for change. At bottom, the issue is that they don't grasp the power dynamics, even by their recognition power is asymmetrical. Bakunin, Kropotkin, et al. tried to come up with theoretical projects to find universally valid solutions to the asymmetries of power and authority, and while they had some contributions to make, they didn't have the insights of political figures like Lenin.
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Seeing that there is no dedicated thread for this part of the world I'm just gonna create one. Feel free to discuss anything happening in this part of the planet here.

I'll start with two things:

-Afghan war situation as of today:

-Kyrgyzstan nationalising an important mine run by Canadians
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Anyone pls recommend good/quality left wing news sources to me? Cause right wing media's basically everywhere and I'm kinda "informationally disabled" bcs of that!

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What is your justification for not owning a firearm or a weapon for self defence like a knife, spiked bat, molotov cocktail, sledgehammer etc?
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>"To the german people, since the foundation of the Reich, for 43 years, it was my and my ancestors hot endeavor to keep the world at peace and to, in peace, support our powerful development. But our enemies envy the success of our labor. All of obvious and secret hostility from east to west, from beyond the sea, we have endured in the awareness of our responsibility and might. But now they want to humiliate us. They demand that we watch with crossed arms as our enemies prepare for a malicious attack. They can't bear that we, in determined loyalty, stay with our allied comrade, that fights for his prestige as a great power, and with whose humiliation, also our power and honour will be lost. The sword has now to decide. In the midst of peace the enemy attacks us. So take up arms! Any wavering, any hesitation would be treason to the fatherland. It's about the existence of our Reich, that was founded anew by our fathers. About the existence of german might and german spirit. We will defend ourselfs to the last breath of man and steed. And we will endure, even in a world of foes. Never was germany defeated when it was united, forward with god, who will be with us, like he was with the fathers."
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Is there a materialist explanation for this?

what happened to the rebellious youth of the 80s and 90s? Lack of things to rebel against? Not cool anymore? Government subversion? It doesn't make sense that a counterculture like that that was taken for granted as a consequence of society just siddenly dissapeared and that people these days just want to lie in bed and jack off? Maybe it has morphed into something else but I honestly don't see it. Seems like everybody today just wants to "reform" and "bring about change" There is no more militant vulgar anti society outbursts that existed before.

Now don't get me wrong, I don't think this is in any way useful or constructive in the leftist sense, but I believe there is some kind of romantic appeal to the whole "rebel without a cause" thing. I ceel like there are less and less people who want genuine absolute freedom and most just want to change small specific aspects of society. The call of the 21st century is justice. not freedom from rules and norms. You can see it by the movements that do exist (antifa,black bloc, BLM, and various smaller militant movements)

I remember a thread about it back on lainchan and ever since I was wondering about this. What are your takes?
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Take The Brenner Pill: Israel was created by Nazis

So I've been reading Lenni Brenner's "Zionism in the Age of Dictators"

Brenner was Jewish, A Trot, and good Friends with Stokely Carmichael, together they founded 'The Comittee Against Zionism and Racism'

In the book, Brenner spells out, in detail, the relationships between the Nazi and Fascist movements and Zionism. He discusses the similarity in ideology, and the Zionist mindset, which he contends is anti semitic, as it inherently sees Jews as a people who will always be othered, and must therefore have a state of their own, rather than assimilating. (This is a tldr of the whole much more fleshed out idea).

As well as this, as I said, he documents their material relationships. As it turns out, the Nazis in a huge way helped build Israel, through the Haavara agreement, a trade deal which saw huge amounts of German capital flow into Israel.

to quote Brenner:

>The top limit through the Ha’avara scheme was 50,000 marks ($20,000 or £4,000) per emigrant, which made the

Ha’avara unattractive to the richest Jews. Therefore only $40,419,000 went to Palestine via Ha’avara, whereas $650
million went to the United States, $60 million to the United Kingdom and other substantial sums elsewhere. Yet if, in
terms of German Jewry’s wealth, Ha’avara was by no means decisive, it was crucial to Zionism. Some 60 per cent of all
capital invested in Palestine between August 1933 and September 1939 was channelled through the agreement with the
Nazis. [20] In addition, the British set the annual Jewish immigrant quota, using the weak economic absorptive capacity of the country to limit their number; however, “capitalists” – those bringing in over £1,000 ($5,000) – were allowed in over quota. The 16,529 capitalists were thus an additional source of immigrants as well as an economic harvest for Zionism. Their capital generated a boom, giving Palestine a wholly artificial prosperity in the midst of the world-wide Depression.


You can find the book here.
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what's the Marxist census on Oliver Cromwell, he killed the king and abolished the monarchy 150 years before the French revolution, promoted based on merit rather on birth, all which is based
but he turned England into a Military Pertain Theocracy and the whole ethno-religious cleansing of Irish Catholics

I know Cromwell used to be very strongly admired by British lefties. They viewed him as a symbol of historic English republicanism and therefore a hero to the British left but , however In the later 20th century up until today, British lefties started embracing more progressive values of course, and in particular started cosying up with Irish republicans. So now the British left by-and-large despises Cromwell, The British right is a mixed bag. Most are disdainful of him because he is obviously an anti-monarchist figure, and Tories shag the queen and royal family in general. But there is a minority of Brits on the right that acknowledge what a big role he played in strengthening parliament and therefore British democracy in the long-term, and praise him for that
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How does LTV account for this and other such instances?


>From the department of “They sold that for how much?!” comes today’s story, about an Italian artist who, for the cool price of €15,000 ($18,300), recently auctioned an artwork that is… well, nothing.
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What was the deal with Saddam Hussein

I can never quite figure out what Saddam Hussein's regime represented and what it's place in history is.

Most socialists, including Michael Parenti and the hosts of Blowback season 1, paint a picture of Saddam as a mostly opportunistic, non-ideological (except viciously anti-communist) power-hungry dictator who was backed by the CIA and the west until it was no longer convenient for them. This is based on alleged CIA involvement in the Iraqi Ba'ath party's rise to power, support for Saddam's crackdown on the Iraqi communist party and leftists within his own party, and weapons and intelligence provided to Saddam by the west during the Iran-Iraq war.

But this is complicated by the facts that the US also covertly supported Iran during the war, that many countries on both sides of the cold war provided support to both Iran and Iraq, and that Saddam's Iraq was a pretty close ally of the Soviet Union for most of it's time.

Hakim for example (the Iraqi communist youtuber) seems to have a mostly positive view of Saddam and has said that "he was good for Iraq." They are few and far between but there does seem to be some socialists/communists who view Saddam, not as a western puppet who later became a nuisance, but as a semi-socialist left-wing nationalist who was an ally of the Soviets and represented resistance against the US and Israel.

Thoughts? I'm looking for some more nuanced discussion here and not necessarily just if he was "good" or "bad" or "based" or "cringe."
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Its so simple yet so scary...

If cuba goes to shit once socialism falls people will say that socialism worked, if cuba becomes better off that's gonna be the final piece of evidence that suggests that socialism doesnt work
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Dead cities are the best ones prove me wrong

>0 fucking mass protests riots or crime
>No ones fucking interested in interacting with each other and learn to stfu and mind their own buissness
>its actually fucking quiet for most of the day meaning you can think for yourself
>easy fucking access to easy and decent paying jobs
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Does anyone have that video of the choir singing 'my country tis of thee', but it's being played over images of American capitalism and decayed American culture? Preferably a YouTube link please.
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What makes turkey so loving and accepting of refugees compared to the rest of the planet?
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Radlibs be like,
>Socialism failed in days or months.
<So brave. Omg, that's true communism. Fuck the USA with their imperialism overthrowing leftists.
>Socialism works
>lifts millions out of poverty
>raises living conditions
>defends the revolution for decades
>100% literacy
>inclusive democratic institutions
>consistent >90% approval rating of citizens
<Ummm sweetie, that's authoritarian dictatorial state capitalism.

If you don't support AES, you're a lib.

That is all.
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What would a balkanized america be like?

You got any theories on what a balkanized america would be like? For me I would believe southerners would be the big winners with trailer trash and ghetto negros being able to move away from state funded social securities and move towards industrialization and tighter border laws and anti abortion measures leading to rapid population booms for southern proles while the west coast remains an corporatized shithole ran by neoliberal advocating for open borders with canada and the north
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National Ice Cream Day

How should communists celebrate this holiday? Under socialism how many scoops of ice cream will be free on this day?

New pic edits are welcome.
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Army Uncle Toms

What's up with the pietism surrounding Black imperialism enforcers?
If it's a white soldier he's just a call of duty addict who wanted to shoots people, if he's black he's a poor prole who had to pay for momma new lawm mowa' ?
Here in Japan these thugs and their white friends always cause troubles. Why does /leftypol/ and the american culture industry justify these house uyghs?
Raping, killing, stealing, colonizing and invading is ok when they do it? Should i even feel guilty for them maybe?
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JaGLOWbin goes all out, publishing a one sided hit piece against Belarus based on an interview with an idiot liberal. No mention of darling Tikhanovskaya's privatization programme, no mention of US NED funding for protestors, glorification of Ukraine as a "safe haven" when fucking neo fascists freely walk around there - lmao yup it's US State Department talking points all the way through about Luka and his brutality etc. Is there any media publication as openly controlled as Jacobin on the "socialist" left?
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prison related activism and activism

in the city where I live there are some orgs formed BY(and FOR)prisioners,and i have some questions about if its worth joining.
>i know marxism is amoral but should violent criminals show some kind of regret for their actions?
>should I /the group try to raise anti-drug points?

also i guess general thread for prisons and penal systems.
im from Chile
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The 1968 "almost revolution" in France

Lets have a thread about it, because all I can find about it is that it happened, however the hows and whys are extremely vague.

What exactly caused it to happen?

What did it accomplish?

What would have happened had it "suceeded"?

Was It just angry teens?

What made the period of the late 60s early 70s so explosive in terms of revolutionary fervor in the West?

And how the fuck did De Gaulle win the next election with a landslide despite having the larges strike of the time mobilized against him and shamelessly fleeing abroad?

These are some of the things I'd like to ask theorychads and historychads here but any non-meme input is welcome.
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My Path to Egoism

>start taking LSD in college
>realize this whole capitalism thing sucks; want to abolish it
>get into leftism
>join leftist org (DSA)
>filled with losers and weirdos who unironically believe in reformism
>ok, I will read theory instead…
>Turns out that Marx is a shit writer who takes 100 pages to explain what should take 10 pages
>agree with his critique of capitalism, but realized way too late that I didn't have to read all of Capital to know that capitalism sucks
>am not convinced of communism through reading Capital I–III
>read Stirner & Bob Black
>realize that the state is a spook which represses the individual
>realize that socialism is basically just hyper-liberalism obsessed with "rights"
>realize that I don't want to be identified as a worker because I don't want to work in the first place
>am now based and egoist pilled

Drop whatever Marx book or other "theory" you're reading right and ego-pill yourselves lads. De-spookify yourself.
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Urban/Rural Divide

What does /leftypol/ think of the urban/rural divide?
Culturally and politically, is this a trend that is observable across the entire world?
Even in socialist-oriented countries, it seems to hold to some extent, where the people in the cities are more liberal culturally, more economically privileged, more educated.
Does capitalism favor the urbanites through some mechanisms? And how?
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I read this book and now im extemely bored

Theres alot I have to say so let me try to organize the information


This book isnt fun or interesting in the slightest, like theres actually little entertainment or even informative value in this book being that the plot feels like it's either going nowhere or escalating to extreme heights far to fucking quickly and half the other stuff like the scene with the girl getting molested is only in their for edge value to appear as "unique" and "antinormie" to reactionaries that live in neoliberal cities


>actual idea
This books main idea reinforces the belief that white Americans(not all white people just white americans) are perpetual victims of the american government that's apparently trying to "exterminate" the whites and that the best way to counter this problem is through mass murder of POC and "race traitors"(race mixers and white people that commit organized crimes) along with the complete nuking of the planet where only whites exist to be oppressed under a facist government. What's more idiotic and disappointing than this books cartoonishly abstract and retarded solution to a nonexistent problem is the realization that a sizable portion of white males in particular have found themselves so attached to identity politics that they align this books main message to their worldview and try to apply its solution to real life resulting in domestic terrorists and mass shooters


>this book fails to inspire anyone that wasnt already extreme
The American government is alot of things but it's not run by gods, for most of amerias history and even to this day the american government has had its political power restricted by simple geography being that the easiest way to avoid exploitation by the FEDS is simply to avoid living in areas where their influence is strong specifically urbanized spaces like chicago Los Angeles and New York and seek refugee abroad or live in rual communities. What this book does is ramp up its obsession with white people, jews and identity politics to such a level that it becomes alienating if not confusing to someone that wasnt already obsessed with id/pol/ and american politics likewise most of the mass shooters and terrorists of white decent we see in the media that had been to have been inspired by this book were either edgy teens and 20 year olds on the internet or mentally I'll social outcasts, 2 demographics that likely would've gotten themselves into criminality and terrorism even if they didnt read this book.

Oh well that's all I have to say, what do you have to add?
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Reactionary middle classes

Without going too much into materialistic/dialectical analysis I can actually understand that the bourgeoisie is extremely reactionary and opposite to any kind of worker cooperation or redistribution of wealth, after all if something goes against your best interests it's perfectly rational to oppose it, even animals do it so I understand it perfectly (I still dislike them though)

What I don't understand is that the so called "middle classes" are as reactionary,ignorant and rabidly anti-communist as they are, a lot of them are opposed to any kind of socialist/ leftist policies like universal healthcare/education or even mild and reformist leftist ideas like making the rich pay more taxes that would actually benefit them, all of this while defending the same rich exploiters that make them work more and more hours in worse office drone jobs with less rights and less free time.

And this is coming from people that have actual education as in they are professionals working skilled jobs so they are somewhat intelligent at least.

These people are actively opposed to socialist ideas even when they are not part of the rich or the bourgeoisie, I think that I kinda rationalized that thinking that a very big part of the middle classes think that "somehow" they will be part of the actual bourgeoisie elite someday and while they wait for that day to actually happen they defend the elite and the statu quo because they will be part of that elite someday.

So why the middle classes openly reject any kind of alliance with the proletariat when they both are opressed by the bourgeoisie in different ways?
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The President of Afghanistan Embodies the Failure of Neoliberal Technocracy

>Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai (born 19 May 1949) is an Afghan politician, academic, and economist who is serving as President of Afghanistan. He was first elected on 20 September 2014 and was re-elected in the 28 September 2019 presidential election. He was announced the winner after a protracted process in February 2020 and was sworn in for a second term on 9 March 2020. An anthropologist by education, he previously served as Minister of Finance and the Chancellor of Kabul University.

>Before returning to Afghanistan in 2002, Ghani was a professor of anthropology at numerous institutions (mostly Johns Hopkins University), and later started working with the World Bank. As the Finance Minister of Afghanistan between July 2002 and December 2004, he led Afghanistan's attempted economic recovery after the collapse of the Taliban government.

>He is the co-founder of the Institute for State Effectiveness, an organization set up in 2005 to improve the ability of states to serve their citizens. In 2005 he gave a TED talk, in which he discussed how to rebuild a broken state such as Afghanistan.[2] He is a member of the Commission on Legal Empowerment of the Poor, an independent initiative hosted by the United Nations Development Programme. In 2013 he was ranked 50th in an online poll to name the world's top 100 intellectuals conducted by Foreign Policy magazine and second in a similar poll run by Prospect magazine.[3]

>An independent politician, Ghani came in fourth in the 2009 presidential election, behind Hamid Karzai, Abdullah Abdullah, and Ramazan Bashardost. In the first round of the 2014 presidential election, Ghani secured 35% of the vote, second to Abdullah who secured 45% of the votes cast. However, in the second round Ghani secured around 55.3% of the votes while Abdullah secured around 44.7% of the votes cast. As a result, chaos ensued and the United States intervened to form a unity government.[4]

>Ghani was re-elected when the final results of the 2019 presidential elections were announced after a long delay on 18 February 2020.[5][6] He was sworn in as president for a second five-year term on 9 March 2020.[7]
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Cuban Situation General /csg/

Last one got Full Continued from >>372135
Cuban Situation General: Bay of Pigs 2021 Edition (With the same results)

Very good analysis of what happened

See inspiring counter-demonstration: https://twitter.com/_makavelijones/status/1414409120338399232
Protesters being looters: https://twitter.com/Yusnaby/status/1414329247099932679
US flag at protest: https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1414384935436099592
Another counter-demonstration: https://twitter.com/mvmtFPE/status/1414363610839650307
The president walking out in public: https://twitter.com/VladEmpanada/status/1414355889218367489
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Do you guys really think you're anti capitalism? You're apparently extremely marketable.
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Quite a few comments on this video claim that Cockshott is misrepresenting Hegel's work.


Is Cockshott correct, is Hegel just doing intellectual sleight of hand?

The video itself seems to be part of a series responding to comments from his blog where he seems to claim that Dialectical Materialism was invented by social democrats to corrupt Marx's work.

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US-China War

Would the US mount a successful ground invasion of mainland china? What about China successfully taking Taiwan and holding the worlds semiconductor capacity? What about naval battles in the pacific? Surprise nuclear attack on Hawaii?

Is it inevitable? and who will win, provided it is in the future (2030+)??
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the Holocaust

I don't have the patience to read a dozen books on the Holocaust to try figure out what happened. I've encountered A LOT of dishonesty from BOTH SIDES. Things like selectively quoting people disinguously or outright lying. It's obvious that A LOT or even MOST Holocaust propagandists (for or against the official narrative) don't care about the truth and just want to brute force their own narrative into the public consciousness while discrediting the other side.

Which book do you recommend from EACH SIDE of the Holocaust debate? at most I'm willing to read two books, one from each side, so I need it to be the most honest propagandist from each side. The best Holocaust denial / "revisionist" book, and the best Holocaust believer book. I read a lot of Germar Rudolf's lectures on the Holocaust many years ago. I've also read all of Daniel Keren's 'Holocaust Denial and The Big Lie' and a bunch of other texts written on places like reddit over the years to debunk holocaust denial.

Also, if there are any decent debates between reputable representatives from each side, that might also clarify some things. each side brazenly lies about the other so often so they'd probably be less likely to do so if they're face-to-face with someone who could call them out.
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Week In Review – July 18, 2021!

It was commonly reported by several sources, this week, that TWELVE soldiers and LEOs died as they were working for the United States of America.

Did you hear about the deadly flooding in Belgium this week?: https://www.weather.com/news/weather/video/germany-belgium-hit-by-deadly-flooding

Also, the fact that God is not mocked made the headlines via the sudden destruction of a favorite idol of a huge group of people: https://www.foxnews.com/us/george-floyd-mural-destroyed-toledo-lightning “No idols” means just that!

Covid is a gift from God for a people who thought they would shorten His hand is some way. Currently there are FOUR European countries where the cases have double in the past week: https://uk.news.yahoo.com/european-countries-covid-cases-delta-variant-190051844.html that’s the more contagious Delta variant.


Also a gift from God is The Moon, and NASA says a pending wobble will cause extreme weather events on our planet: https://www.axios.com/nasa-moon-wobble-coastal-flooding-c4623977-31be-44d6-a73a-1da9107f3316.html?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_content=energy-environment-nasa in this coming decade. You are not supposed to worship or fear the things God has made MORE than you need to fear God.

In the United States there are Covid “hot spots” where, “They rapidly decline, very fast, and then even after intubation we’ll see them rapidly decline and unfortunately we are seeing people passing quicker than before,”: https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/13/us/us-covid-hot-spots-hospitals/index.html?utm_source=twCNN&utm_term=link&utm_content=2021-07-14T11%3A45%3A07&utm_medium=social&s=09

In Texas, a major chemical incident took place at a water park where they are CLEARLY taking this Covid matter very seriously because the incident involved sulfuric acid and bleach!: https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/07/17/us/texas-houston-water-park-chemical-incident/index.html?__twitter_impression=true&s=09

Deuteronomy 28:28 The LORD shall smite thee with madness, and blindness, and astonishment of heart:
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Against Morality

Morality is not real—it is a Stirnerite “fixed idea”, if you will. To put it another way, “morality” is a human-made construct that does more harm than good. Don’t take it from me; take it from Lao Tzu, who wrote in the Tao Te Ching:

>The great Tao fades away

>There is benevolence and justice
>Intelligence comes forth
>There is great deception

>The six relations are not harmonious

>There is filial piety and kind affection
>The country is in confused chaos
>There are loyal ministers
(Tao Te Ching, Lao Tzu, Chapter 18, Derek Lin translation.)

Here, Lao Tzu is saying that when we deviate from the Tao—say, how we naturally act—we are forced to fall back on man-made concepts such as “benevolence,” “justice,” intelligence,” “morality,” “spirituality,” and so forth. Indeed, all these concepts are relative—who is to say what is objectively good, bad, moral, and the like? In “The Unique and Its Property,” Stirner showcases some brilliant examples of the relativity of morality, with choice quotes such as: “Now we are so thoroughly religious that sworn-in jurors condemn us to death, and every policeman, as a good Christian, takes us to the slammer by ‘oath of office’,” (The Unique and Its Property, p. 44) and “When the guerrillas drew their country’s enemies into ravines and shot them down from the bushes, unseen, wasn’t that assassination?” (id., p. 45) Morality is decisively relative, and “objective morality” is—not real.

This isn’t to say that I believe that humans have the capacity to force themselves to be “amoral”, so to speak. We can take some simple lessons from Dostoevsky here. In Crime and Punishment, the protagonist Raskolnikov kills an old lady and her daughter and can’t bear the guilt. In the censored chapter of Demons, the main character Stavrogin confesses to a priest that he had sex with a very underaged girl and stood idly by as she killed herself in the other room—Stavrogin suffers spiritually despite being the apotheosis of the amoral nihilist. In short: when one does horrible things—horrible being relative to the individual—they will naturally feel guilt. That is, for most people being good is simply—natural. Let’s hark back to hunter-gatherer times: the fixed idea of “objective morality” didn’t exist, but people didn’t go around murdering people from their own tribe. In essence, amorality does not mean immorality. Simply, the theoretical abolition of “objective morality” will allow for the freedom to act as we will, and the freedom to act as we will will bring natural order to the world.
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The Housing Question

Should housing be considered private or personal property? In Capitalist countries, the population is used to a mode of production where we either rent our own homes, or we take out a huge usury financial morgtage in order to pay for it. Should socialists/communists take a distributive role towards the solution of housing and distribute all homes as reclassified personal property to everyone? Or should housing be completely collectivized and not owned by anyone, ignoring the huge culture/narrative of people spending their entire lives to buy living space? I imagine the complete collectivization of housing wouldn't be something that connects with the proletariat or petite bourgeoisie in any sufficiently advanced capitalist country.

Countries like Cuba and China today have some of the biggest housing ownership rates in the world and other socialist countries like Gaddafist Libya also followed this too. However, there have been socialist countries like the DPRK that just collectivize everything.
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Social Heterogeny and Homogeny Under Capitalism

Is the contemporary war of rhetoric between radlibs and wignats completely missing the point? The former posit that more "diversity" will lead to increased innovation, creative ouput (and therefore standard of life, etc.); the former posit that less "diversity" will lead to increased social cohesion (and therefore standard of life, etc.). However the mechanisms resulting in the stagnation of innovation, creative output and the decline in social cohesion is not actually due to the social superstructure but rather the decaying state of finance capitalism. The economic impact is actually a universal intersectional impact by which all identity groupings are affected. Fighting over the justice of a failed distribution system is self-sabotaging when you could fight to reorganize the distribution system itself, and address the inequities it outputs at a source level.
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News 7/17/21

Cuban president denounces US-backed ‘media terrorism’ while addressing massive supporters’ rally
Speaking to thousands of supporters in Havana on Saturday, Diaz-Canel claimed the narrative that there is widespread unrest in Cuba is a false one. He was joined by former President Raul Castro, 90, while he addressed supporters. The ‘lie’ being pushed through viral social media images and foreign politicians and activists is not “by chance or mistake,” Diaz-Canel said. “All this is the cold calculation of an unconventional war manual,” he claimed. The president had previously blamed the protests on “foreign meddling,” pointing to the US as the likely culprit behind the demonstrations.

Bolivia unfolds criminal investigation on former military commander
A recent investigation proved Terceros's participation in the arrival in the country of the aforementioned war material from Argentina, without complying with the requirements established for their management and in the context of the coup d'état against then President Evo Morales.

New Zealand Farmers Hold Protests Against Heavier Farming Cost
The Howl of a Protest event witnessed thousands of farm vehicles including trucks, tractors, utes, and even dogs, rumbling through cities in the protest against what farmers said is increasing interference from the government, unworkable regulations and unjustified costs.

French protests call for 'freedom' amid government vaccine push
More than a hundred thousand people marched across France on Saturday to protest against President Emmanuel Macron's plans to force vaccination of health workers and require a COVID-19 free certificate to enter places such as restaurants and cinemas.

Philippines' Pacquiao ousted as president of ruling party after row
Pacquiao, 42, who is seen as a possible contender to succeed Duterte in next year's presidential election, had long been among the president's strongest supporters, backing his bloody war on drugs and bid to reintroduce the death penalty. But ties between them soured last month after Pacquiao railed at what he called Duterte's soft stance on Beijing's aggressiveness in the South China Sea, and said he was probing graft in the government.

NPA Unit Holds Mass Meeting Of Peasants In Eastern Visayas Region
In a report featured in Larab, revolutionary publication in Eastern Visayas, a local NPA unit in a guerrilla front in the region was able to hold a meeting of peasant masses from 20 barangays and sitios and forge a plan to frustrate the “surrender” campaigns being conducted by the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) and to resolutely advance the people’s democratic revolution to defeat the Duterte regime’s oppression and fascism.

South Africans urged to unite against counter-revolutionary violence as more than 100 killed in unrest
SOUTH Africans have been urged to “forge broad unity in defence of our democracy” amid ongoing violence that has caused more than 100 deaths in the wake of the jailing of former president Jacob Zuma. The African National Congress, South African Communist Party and Congress of South African Trade Unions convened an emergency meeting of the Alliance Political Council (APC) on Thursday.

Western governments chided at arms conference for "enabling" Arab regimes to spy on citizens
Attendees at Selling Death: why the international arms trade must be controlled, which was backed by former Labour party leader Jeremy Corbyn, decried what they said was a "corrupt" arms trade that reaped huge profits for the "global military-industrial complex."

One killed in Iran’s Khuzestan water crisis protests
A young man was shot dead during a second night of protests over water shortages in southwest Iran, state news agency IRNA has reported. Iran is facing its worst drought in 50 years, with protests breaking out in several cities and towns in Khuzestan province over the water crisis, which has affected households, devastated agriculture and livestock farming, and led to power blackouts.

Chinese provinces that failed to tackle pollution named by government
In separate statements referring to the two provinces, the ministry of ecology and environment said both Henan in central China and Yunnan on the southwestern border had made some progress but neither meet “the requirements of the central government or the expectations of the public”.
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Running from the cops

How realistic is it to run/drive away from the cops? Whats your chance of actually escaping? In this age of tons of cameras and police helicopters can a person even get away?
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Iranian Revolution

Red pill me on the iranian revolution.
How this was any different from other anti communist revolutions around the arab world? It btfo Puppets but at the same time it was radically anticomunist in nature, not any different from Baath shit.
why is it something to support?
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Least cucked version of christianity

Which denomination of christianity is the most commie and pro-worker and which is the most cucked and capitalist? Gnostic? Cath? Obviously its not evangelical-protestant. Or are they all cucked and the only proper stance is to be a materialist-agnostic or something
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al Jazeera leftist

>Anti Zionist
>Anti Saudi
>Anti Iran
>Anti Assad
>Anti Putin
>civil right champions
>sometimes muslims
Who are these fellows? What's their endgame? Why such political position exist?
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Remember how literally a few years ago tech companies kept screeching endlessly and endlessly about how "big data" was going to revolutionize the planet and lead to massive technological and societal growth and now today after big data has been achieved technological growth is actually on the decline while seemingly nothing about modern capitalism hell nothing about the planet overall has seemingly changed yeah what the fuck is up with that?
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Im not even angry or frustrated i just wanna stop being a virgin

My social skills are fucking horrendous and drive everyone away, I live innawoods in the middle of alberta meaning I cant relate to anyone on fucking anything because all the city folk perceive me as foreign as I have minimal understanding of neoliberal politics an whatever the fuck goes on in the United states and the big cities, covid restrictions prevent me from going to clubs where I can actually get laid and drunk and to top off the offences society expects men to all be magical billionaires where they have to simp and provide endlessly for women if you want one that isnt a literal slut but one that gives enough of a shit about your existence to stay near you. Fuckin hell :(
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Questions about Cuba for communists

Hi, these are good-faith questions, I will take you seriously if you take me seriously. I am an american liberal and I want to understand the communist perspective.

1) As far as I know the Cuban embargo does not prevent the Cuban government from allowing its people to cultivate and start businesses. What are your major issues with the Cuban embargo?
2) Is it true that the Cuban government allow its citizens to fish or farm? All your porperity is taken by the government. I was told that all goods are directed to the tourism industry or members of the government, and if you are caught eating a steak you go to prison for 5 years. I find this a bit hard to believe but is it actually true?
3) Has Communism failed in Cuba? Innocent people suffer to support the regime. Even if your gripe is with the criticism on Socialism how can you not take a stance against a government that abuses the populace?

I'm not absolving capitalism of its evils by taking a stance against the dictatorship, but how could you possibly defend Cuba?
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The Moscow Trials

So what's /leftypol/ consesus on Moscow Trials? Was it a farce? Or were they actually guilty? Was there a trotsko-fascist conspiracy? Are all the testimonies fake?
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You're laughing. This man is trying to abolish the present state of things and you're laughing

Do you wanna know how I got these scars? My father was a redditor… and a tankie. And one night, he goes off more authoritarian than usual. Mommy, who he has suspected to be counterrevolutionary Western chauvinist, takes his Little Red Book away because he’s not making any sense.

He doesn't like that.


So, me watching, he yells “the CCP’s police forces aren’t bastards! The PRC is contesting the Western imperialist powers and fighting for working class interests by expanding socialist commodity production!” to her, laughing while he says it. He turns to me and says, "Why so anarchist?" He comes at me with reddit summaries of Economic Problems of Socialism in the U.S.S.R., On Authority, and parts of Das - "Why so anarchist?" He puts his phone with r/ communism101 opened on reddit up to my face - "Let's put some Dialectical Materialism TM in your head!"
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They're going to keep us working forever.

The next plan of the bourgeoisie is to "cure" aging as a ploy to avoid the problem of workers dying/retiring all the time. I predict the retirement age will be progressively pushed upwards as research progresses and life expectancy increases, until we are all immortal wageslaves. The only chance of escape will be suicide or accidental death.
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American Health Care

You guys love socialism and wealth redistribution.

I'm an American and I have poor dental health. I need at least 2 root canals and several fillings. My teeth used to be in great shape, but I've neglected my dental care for over a decade due to the costs and I'm gonna look like a meth addict in a few years if I don't take care of it. How can I fix my teeth?
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Richard Sorge

>be Richard Sorge
>smash cooch left and right because you have just that much game
>fool the Third Reich for years
>delivered vital informations concerning operation barbarossa to the USSR
>Ian Flemming says, you are his inspiration for James Bond
>even classical cold warriors like Tom Clancy have to admit that you are probably a better spy than any western spy could ever dream of being

Why was this guy such a chad?
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If the capitalists are defined as evil due to their inherent nature of exploiting proles whom have no means of producing anything by themselves and are subject to selling their labour in order to survive how does a socialist revolution whom commodifies all workers into endlessly labouring for each others cause or more often times in history labouring for an authoritarian elite like chairman maos party, heads of the ussr and nk or Cuba's party etc manage to free proles from exploitation by those that control the means of production? Doesnt all socialism do is force dependency among the working class rather than at the very least under capitalism give them options to escape working for others if they simply can opt out or choose to avoid?
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What is the materialist view of him?

>Juhayman ibn Muhammad ibn Sayf al-Otaybi (Arabic: جهيمان بن محمد بن سيف العتيبي‎ ‎16 September 1936[1][2] – 9 January 1980) was a Saudi militant and soldier who in 1979 led the Grand Mosque seizure of the Great Mosque of Mecca, Saudi Arabia's holiest mosque, to protest against the Saudi monarchy.

>Juhayman said that his justification for the siege was that the House of Saud had lost its legitimacy through corruption and imitation of the West, an echo of his father's charge in 1921 against former Saudi king Ibn Saud. Unlike earlier anti-monarchist dissidents in the kingdom, attacked the Saudi ulama for failing to protest against policies that betrayed Islam, and accused them of accepting the rule of an infidel state and offering loyalty to corrupt rulers in "exchange for honours and riches."[3]

>On 20 November 1979, the first day of the Islamic year 1400, the Great Mosque of Mecca was seized by a well-organized group of 400 to 500 men under al-Otaybi's leadership.[4] A siege lasted more than two weeks before Saudi special forces broke into the mosque.[4] French Special Forces provided a special tear gas (CS gas) which prevents aggressiveness and slows down breathing.[4] Al-Otaybi was executed by the Saudi authorities, in public, on 9 January 1980, in Mecca.
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Iranian Revolution

What is the marxist/materialist explanation for the iranian revolution? doesn't it disprove historical materialism due to being motivated by religion and not CLASS CONFLICT?
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Leftypol, why do you insist that such concept as "totalitarianism" has no use in understanding political systems? How else do you call a one party state with complete party control over the economic, political, and cultural life of a society? Do you have any other term that encompasses such particular societal configuration? If no, then this concept has a very particular use in understanding human societies.
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How do you explain the transition from feudalism to capitalism? What were the things internal to feudalism that gave birth to capitalism? Was capitalism inevitable from feudalism? If so, was it inevitable from slave society, hunter-gatherer society?
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Focusing on economics only and reducing leftism to class warfare is a strategy that will catastrophically backfire on the left should we ever win. It's a fatal flaw that will not only alienate a great chunk of the population that will then be prone to getting coopted by liberals, but also cause social turmoil after a revolution when those lifted out of eageslavery suddenly have enough free time to contemplate changing society for the better don't get support from the revolutionary leadership against those who wish to block it.

The hard truth is that not everything in life can be materially explained and a lot of it has to do with psychology and human behavior which is in the realm of metaphysical (not talking sipernatural just not dictated by economics). Leaving this question completely unadressed in a revolutionary phase will create a timebomb that will explode and fracture the leadership and society after a revolution when conpeting societal visions begin emerging.

I know most leftists irl arenlike this, but I'm just posting this to show how much this site's aitistic obsession with class reductionism is not only self sabotaging but also nonsensical. Why shoot yourself in the foot when it's so easy to just embrace all forms of liberation under the umbrella of marxism?

You can't jump across a gap "a little bit" you have ro go all the way if you want to get to the other side. Thinking things will magically snap into thwir place if people's material needs were met is extreme idealism.
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I only realized this today but canada is a fucking joke

>literally first world and provides absolutely 0 relevant innovations to the planet
>had literally 100s of years since the industrial revolution to become a superpower yet accomplished fucking nothing
>has access to fertilizer and massive amounts of unused land and resources yet canadians for all of their history since their independence are too stupid to settle on any of it and rely off the american economy to survive
>nearly all the development in that country can be described as canadians built alot of farms and suburbs and nothing more with toronto being the only exception of Canadian "civilization"
>somehow so unbelievably cucked to the point where they still cant form a military without aid from the US to defend itself from eastern powers like china iran and russia, and to make things worse canadians are letting their own government take away their guns and assfuck them even more than they already have to this day
What a fucking disappointment canada is ahahahahahah, no wonder so many canadians flee to america ahahahahah.
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10 dollars for a jug of milk in canada

I never realized this but I fucking despise grocery shopping with all my fucking blood, how the fuck do proles convince themselves every fucking day that going outside to walk through isles upon isles all to find some shitty product they're looking for in some shitty cement building that's barely piped and wired properly just so they can spend 100s if not thousands of dollars every year on goods that are already overproduced and undersold to jack up prices isnt the fucking definition of extreme stupidity??? Imagine struggling to garden or farm your own land to grow food on a planet where over 90% of all its land is unused, a planet with so much fucking food that you could feed the entirety of earth till 2050 all without farming anymore just by living off existing supplies. How just fucking how do they convince themselves that grocery shopping is normal and not just scamming on an industrial scale
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post your best epic capitalism moments. Could be anything from awful movies to awful products to awful people to awful places
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Reaching a type 1 civilization

Humanity isnt at 0.83 hell I would be surprised if it was even at 0.1 being that most of the earths land and raw resources is completely unused(the deepest mine ever dug is in south africa and hasn't even crossed 0.1% of the earths depth) what type of major industrial efforts coupled with a series of ideas and machinery would it take to build the infrastructure required that could harness all and I mean ALL the earths potential land and resources
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Gusanos show their true colours

These people are clearly genocidal nutcases who literally want their own people "back home" to suffer and die under illegal US sanctions.

Tell me why anyone should support these fascist fucks.
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Class composition of the bourgeoisie

Is there a similar graphic to this one that documents the class composition of the bourgeoisie, rather than working class?

I am particularly interested in wrapping my head around the difference between the petit and big bourgeoisie in both numbers of individuals and economic influence/power.
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Bukharin thread

What did he do that merited his purge, despite his major status as an Old Bolshevik? How was he incorrect? Could Bukharin have been a better person to lead the development of the Soviet Union in its earlier years?
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What constitutes being on the left vs being on the right? It seems like every single position can be both on the left and right. How can you actually put someone in the box as leftist/rightist

>Conservatives are pro abortion, liberals are pro choice but Catholics are pro abortion even if on the left

>Conservatives are pro gun. Liberals are anti-gun but the Far Left is pro gun.
>Universal healthcare is liberal but in Europe the far right parties support it.
>Being anti-captialist pro worker/state ownership is leftist but plenty of people are the far right agree with the left on this.
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So what's /leftypol/'s opinion about Pedro Castillo (AKA Pencil Man). Is he one of /ourguys/ in Peru?
The peruvian right seems to be extremely reactionary and they may by readying themselves for another "democratic" coup just in like Cuba.
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Wait hold on

If buissnesses become corporations so they can stay stable enough to become worth investing in and then those corporations turn into monopolies that would mean that free markets become sterile like what's happening already, this would mean that all the major corporaions today would turn into ordinary government institutions rather than "companies" and all markets would turned into planned economies as well. If these same buissnesses keep growing wont all the capitalist societies of today just turn into socialist ones where the state controls everything and billionaires make their money straight out of tax payer money and keeping government run corporations alive?
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I don't nessesarily disagree with everything leftists say, but why did 1920-30s experimental (excremental) architecture had to look like some ugly randomly put together concrete blocks? Why proletarian=brutal and ugly. Poor people live in ugly buildings because they can't afford good looking ones , not because it's some integral part of their existance and identity.
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What is the theoretical basis for hating fascism more than liberal capitalism? I mean all the really matters is the material conditions not the bullshit in peoples heads so why are we so concerned with whether fascism or liberalism is in power.

To be clear I'm not a fascist but I'm just confused with why tf almost all socialist agitation and talk seems to be about beating a dead ideology? Are we just scrapping it out for second place?
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So....Sablin was a hero right?

Forget for a moment the unlikelihood of his plan's success, was he correct in trying to overthrow the Brezhnev regime? You could claim that events like the Kronstadt Rebellion and the Hungarian Uprising were mislead or would inevitably be capitalized on by the West, but by all indications Sablin was a genuine Leninist who accurately perceived that the Soviet Union was making no progress towards communism and had instead become a corruption-ridden bureaucracy. I've seen him praised by Stalinists and Left-Coms, so I'm not sure what the consensus is, but to me Sablin paints a picture of an honest dedicated man that sacrificed his life (perhaps pointlessly, yes) to save his nation and people from the horrific destruction of the Soviet state and subsequent capitalist looting of Russia. What are your thoughts?
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Debunk of the LTV?

Hey friends, I am looking for some good PDFs, videos and takes from you on why the labor theory of value is incorrect and not a damning critique of capitalism.

Please note I am not a marxist, I am relativley new to Libertarianism and given what I know as far as I can tell other than the world regressing into barbarism the LTV seems to be the only thing posing a true existential threat to capitalism.
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Mogs the entire planet

Heh no problem kid
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>money has value because you have to pay taxes with it
<neoliberals have reduced corporate tax rates to zero
<ergo money has no value
>raising taxes would decrease the circulating supply of money and have a deflationary effect
>government spending without a tax increase just pumps bubbles because money is worthless from the aformentioned zero tax rates so the rich would bail into assets
>doing both at the same is basically an elaborate redistribution scheme to shift value from being held by the rich to distributed throughout the poor
<implying bourgeois democracy will ever do this
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A democracy is a system where individuals collectively vote for someone to rule a country with the person that wins the most votes coming out the ruler. Democracies may fail to provide decent living conditions or even fail to provide citizens with the wants and needs they voted for for the following relatively common reasons

>The public opinion may be manipulated through the manipulation of the press leading to leaders whom present consistent and similar views to become repeatedly elected

>Democratically elected rulers arent necessarily wealthy and may have to spend tax money not on fulfilling campaign promises but rather spending money on the people that aided them in getting elected, or may take out bribes from rich people in order to keep themselves in power
>Certain political groups and parties may make diverse public opinions on how to run a country obsolete by only allowing 2 or 1 political party to dominate elections via suppressing political competition
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This image and videos make me angry

These were filmed today when I decided to go outside of my room for once and explore the outside world and much to my dismay I immediately stumbled on a pumpjak and oil drill, I dont know what it is about seeing these planted directly in the nice fresh environment but when I saw this shit I became absolutely fucking furious. The earth is fucking huge and rich in resources biological diversity and wonders humanity still hasn't discovered and to send to earth that humanity matters the people that assembled this stupid field fucking ruined it. Theres already enough oil in circulation around the planet the earth doesnt need any fucking more of it much less more industrialists seeking to penetrate deeper into the fucking ground causing earthquakes and societal damage in the form of abusing and murdering their fellow man in the name of material wealth, this is shameful on every fucking regard and the fact that people on this planet are so desperate for a fucking shred of that magical dollar that they're willing to turn entire forests lush with life into barren wastelands is fucking sickening. Fuck fuck fuck fuck ahhhhhhhhhh
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Which country has the most reactionary and most based expats?

I was asking myself that with all the talk about gusanos we had in the Peru and the Cuba threads recently.

For me, it's gotta be the Balts for the most reactionary ones. I mean, most of them literally have quasi-fascist positions, deny that the German occupation was actually an occupation, and that if it was not for the USSR "we would be like Singapore now". By the way, by "Balts I mostly mean Lithuanians and Estonians, Lativians are okay-ish from what I've seen.

As for the based expats, I would argue that goes to the Serbs. They often all have nostalgia for Tito, feel sympathetic to communist causes, and tend to dislike America.

One thing I want to share (maybe this can be another category) is about Chinese people I've met. Most of them are somewhat supportive of their government, some don't really care but crack jokes about it more often or are mildly annoyed when the CPC is overreaching. In college, my room mate was Chinese and one day to our surprise he found the People's Daily in the mailbox. His response was: "Oh wow, they found me? Jeez, here we go…" But he would never want to see the CPC overthrown. But then when I actually see a Chinese right-winger, holy fucking shit, these are some of the worst mentally ill nutcases ever. Many are tied to literal cults, pander insane conspiracy theories and want to transform China into some sort of clerical fascism.
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*ting ting ting ting*

Please gather around, I have an important announcement to make



That's all
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News 7/16/21

Europe floods: At least 120 dead and hundreds unaccounted for
In Germany, where the death toll now stands at over 100, Chancellor Angela Merkel called for a determined battle against climate change. At least 20 people have died in Belgium. The Netherlands, Luxembourg and Switzerland are also affected.

Some volunteer civil society members of Czech Govt Roma Council protest new law on subjecting welfare benefits to collections
Some of the civil society members of the Czech Government Council for Romani Minority Affairs disagree with the recent bill proposed by the Civic Democratic Party (ODS) making it possible to subject welfare benefits designed for the poorest of the poor, specifically the housing benefit and subsistence contribution, to collections proceedings in order to cover certain kinds of debts owed by such welfare recipients to local authorities.

HBDH Kurdistan: Sabotage Action against Guard Vehicle in Mardin
On 14 July 2021, a sabotage action was carried out against the 13 ACY 47 plated personal vehicle belonging to Orhan Yıldız, who was the guard of the palace and colonialism, in the 76 Mart District of Mardin.

Occupation troops desecrate cemetery in Afrin
The Turkish occupation forces have destroyed the Avesta cemetery in Afrin and removed the dead from the graves. The Turkish state agency declared the fallen fighters and civilians killed in the bombardment as "victims of the YPG".

Arabic press review: Palestinian Authority blocks entry of aid to Gaza
Sources familiar with the indirect negotiations taking place in Cairo between Hamas and Israel said that "a new mechanism was presented, according to which the Qatari grant would be transferred through the United Nations to be handed directly to poor families in the Gaza Strip," which was rejected by the PA after Israel approved it.

Vendors in Cavite form barricade amid threat of demolition
Over the years, developers have targeted the highway between Santa Rosa and Tagaytay as a prime development spot. Ayala Land, Inc. and the Lucio Tan-owned Greenfield Development Corporation first began development in Santa Rosa in the early 2000s, much to the dismay of farmers and residents who lived in the area.

CPI demands abolition of sedition law, Article 124-A in parliament
Addressing a media conference here, Narayana asked all the like- minded elements to support the campaign by the left parties ,Mamta Banerji ,Sharad Pawar ,Prashant Kishore to seek abolition of the hideous act in the coming parliament session.

Where is Colombia’s ‘clear evidence’ of terrorist plot during protests?
Vargas did not specify what evidence the police chief allegedly obtained or from the computer of which allegedly arrested ELN ringleader. The police chief has been accused of crimes against humanity over the use of deadly violence to quell largely peaceful anti-government protests that kicked off in April.

Cartels Are Turning Mexico’s Indigenous Marathoners Into Drug Mules
Randall Gingrich, an activist for Raramuri Human Rights and founder of Tierra Nativa, a nonprofit public charity, said although the issue has been going on for some years, the extreme weather this summer has pushed more Indigenous to work as runners for the cartels.

Bolivian authorities join syringe campaign for Cuba
Bolivian authorities are joining the international campaign to send syringes to Cuba to vaccinate its population against Covid-19, the Ahora El Pueblo newspaper highlighted Tuesday. The daily stands out in an article that the Bolivia-Cuba Parliamentary Friendship Group began to raise funds to enable the purchase of syringes, under the slogan 'The Blockade Kills, Your Solidarity Kills the Blockade.'

Six XR protesters found guilty for blockading printing works
Judge Sally Fudge convicted the defendants, saying that while the demonstration was “peaceful” it had a significant impact on the ability of businesses to function and caused newspapers to lose an estimated £1 million.

Indonesia’s Hospitals Overflow With Covid-19 Patients as Gravediggers Work Into the Night
A worker, Sadam Saifullah, said he and his colleagues regularly bury more than 100 bodies a day, up from the roughly five they handled daily in March, at this cemetery dedicated for suspected Covid-19 victims. “We work into the night,” he said, “until our boss tells us we’re done.”
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What is dialectics?

I've seen Dialectics mentioned a lot around in leftist discourse but I could never understand what the fuck people were talking about. This was disconcerting to me because I think I'm a very intelligent person. Were people just spouting bullshit? Were people applying a reasonable idea in a fallacious way? Is the concept just so dense that one needs to have formal education in the subject to even begin to understand? Is it possible the concept and the application are just examples of the continental philosophies lunacy? Or perhaps I'm not actually as smart as I thought and that's why I can't understand.

To be honest I don't know if I'm any closer to the answers to these questions. I think I have learned that very very few people know the answer to this and that many more have the wrong answer.

My brain and gut are really telling me that this dialectics business is all bullshit and people are trying to rationalize and obfuscate anything they can by invoking fancy words but it is sort of hard for me to accept that people can be that stupid. I mean, haven't people have been getting paid good sums of money for the past couple of centuries to study this stuff at universities all around the world, not to mention the massive impact marxism has had on the world… It seems a little crazy and arrogant to dismiss it like this. Please prove me wrong if you can.
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What is the Marxist take on this guy and whats your personal opinion on him? Was he really for "a square deal for every man"? Are national parks and conservation as they were implemented a good thing?
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Good leftist RSS feeds

Want to start reading things from people who aren't all dead, and are publishing with RSS. Anyone have any suggestions?

I'll start with:
https://thenextrecession.wordpress.com/ Michael Robert's blog
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Gay op in Cuba thread (old one is full)

My understanding of the Cuba protests situation: there are real reasons for rebellion in Cuba but this is 99% US-backed regime change as evidenced by counter-protests being much bigger, there only having been like 5 anti-government protests total in which I haven't seen any large turnout, and the quantity of coordinated transparent propaganda in western news/social media.

See inspiring counter-demonstration: https://twitter.com/_makavelijones/status/1414409120338399232
Havana was peaceful last night: https://twitter.com/pvillegas_tlSUR/status/1414423377675227137
Protesters being looters: https://twitter.com/Yusnaby/status/1414329247099932679
US flag at protest: https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1414384935436099592
Another counter-demonstration: https://twitter.com/mvmtFPE/status/1414363610839650307
The president walking out in public: https://twitter.com/VladEmpanada/status/1414355889218367489
Weird social media obvious propaganda: https://twitter.com/OrlenysOV/status/1414397107121840130
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What Are Our Current Monopolies?

It seems like retail, food and tech sectors are very monopolised today, but what about other sectors and other countries?
I Heard that like %40 of US clothing-sector is owned by few brands. Also automobile industry is very connected to each other that even rival corporations owns each other a lot(like how Toyota owns Tesla). US media is also extremely monopolised as i know.
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Uhhhhh what ethnicity is this?
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Ageism in tech industry

Why are boomers in tech struggling to find jobs? I hear a lot of people complain that if you don't get intk upper management by the time you're 40, you have no future in the tech industry? In any other sane field, people with 30 years experience are valued. But in the tech industry a 50 year old programmer is considered unhirable despite being more proficient in his field. How is one supposed to remain relavant? Should I just do something other than coding? Like cybersecurity?
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What a materialistic explanation for the fact that the Greco-Romans, Vikings, Russians, etc. replaced their native religions with a Jewish sect (Christianity and Islam). Why didn't China fall under the pressure of Jesus?
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WTF Japan

You're supposed to collapse from the falling rate of profit, not make it into an anime idol!

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Hey bunkerfags industrialize

Made some shitty images of all the materials required to build most of what humans these days call "modern society" along with the basic tools and machines. Go build the industrial revolution that creates a socialist society now. Also what variation of socialism allowed the most industrial progress?
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Society is Collapsing

Would socialism have a greater chance of success if it became increasingly apparent that it is necessary to prevent human extinction? Capitalism's infinite growth mentality is on track to completely implode within two decades.

>In 1972, a team at Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) predicted that humanity's pursuit of economic growth without regard for environmental and society costs would lead to society collapsing by the mid 21st century – a new study finds this may become a reality.

>Gaya Herrington, Sustainability and Dynamic System Analysis Lead at KPMG, undertook the task of proving or disproving MIT's claims and used a world simulation model that analyzed how our world has progressed from 1972.

>Herrington looked at 10 key variables, such as population, industrial output and persistent pollution, and determined our business-as-usual mentality will spark a decline of economic growth within the next decade.

>However, the data revealed an even bleaker future – our world could experience a total societal collapse by 2040.

>A total societal collapse would mean an abrupt decline in quality of life, food production, industrial output and ultimately the human population.

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Which people/organisations/movements do both the far left and far right support?

pic related.
Free Palestine.
Hating Liberals and Conservatives.
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How Tech Mogul Peter Thiel Turned a Retirement Account for the Middle Class Into a $5 Billion Tax-Fr

>Billionaire Peter Thiel, a founder of PayPal, has publicly condemned “confiscatory taxes.” He’s been a major funder of one of the most prominent anti-tax political action committees in the country. And he’s bankrolled a group that promotes building floating nations that would impose no compulsory income taxes.
>But Thiel doesn’t need a man-made island to avoid paying taxes. He has something just as effective: a Roth individual retirement account.
>Over the last 20 years, Thiel has quietly turned his Roth IRA — a humdrum retirement vehicle intended to spur Americans to save for their golden years — into a gargantuan tax-exempt piggy bank, confidential Internal Revenue Service data shows. Using stock deals unavailable to most people, Thiel has taken a retirement account worth less than $2,000 in 1999 and spun it into a $5 billion windfall.
>To put that into perspective, here’s how much the average Roth was worth at the end of 2018: $39,108.
>And here’s how much $5 billion is: If every one of the 2.3 million people in Houston, Texas, were to deposit $2,000 into a bank today, those accounts still wouldn’t equal what Thiel has in his Roth IRA.
>What’s more, as long as Thiel waits to withdraw his money until April 2027, when he is six months shy of his 60th birthday, he will never have to pay a penny of tax on those billions.
>ProPublica has obtained a trove of IRS tax return data on thousands of the country’s wealthiest people, covering more than 15 years. This data provides, for the first time, an inside look at the financial lives of the richest Americans, those whose stratospheric fortunes put them among history’s wealthiest individuals.
>What this secret information reveals is that while most Americans are dutifully paying taxes — chipping in their part to fund the military, highways and safety-net programs — the country’s richest citizens are finding ways to sidestep the tax system.
>One of the most surprising of these techniques involves the Roth IRA, which limits most people to contributing just $6,000 each year.
>The late Sen. William Roth Jr., a Delaware Republican, pushed through a law establishing the Roth IRA in 1997 to allow “hard-working, middle-class Americans” to stow money away, tax-free, for retirement. The Clinton administration didn’t want to give a fat tax break to wealthy people who were likely to save anyway, so it blocked Americans making more than $110,000 ($160,000 for a couple) per year from using them and capped annual contributions back then at $2,000.
>Yet, from the start, a small number of entrepreneurs, like Thiel, made an end run around the rules: Open a Roth with $2,000 or less. Get a sweetheart deal to buy a stake in a startup that has a good chance of one day exploding in value. Pay just fractions of a penny per share, a price low enough to buy huge numbers of shares. Watch as all the gains on that stock — no matter how giant — are shielded from taxes forever, as long as the IRA remains untouched until age 59 and a half. Then use the proceeds, still inside the Roth, to make other investments.
>About a decade after the creation of the Roth, Congress made it even easier to turn the accounts into mammoth tax shelters. It allowed everyone — including the very richest Americans — to take money they’d stowed in less favorable traditional retirement accounts and, after paying a one-time tax, shift them to a Roth where their money could grow unchecked by Uncle Sam — a Bermuda-style tax haven right here in the U.S.
>To identify those who have amassed fortunes in retirement accounts, ProPublica scoured the tax return data of the ultrawealthy for IRA accounts valued at more than $20 million. Reporters also examined Securities and Exchange Commission filings, court documents and other records, including a memo detailing Thiel’s wealth that was included in his 2005 application for residency in New Zealand.
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The other day, I had a long layover at an airport, and decided to look at the bookstore. I usually get my books online or at a library (don't like to pay) so I was extremely surprised by how extremely similar the recommended books all were. All of them were profoundly liberal. Most of them aimed at businessmen or businesswomen, or people who wanted to be bussinesspeople. There were quite a few political books, all of them from a deeply liberal perspective, something your John Oliver watching grandmother might read, talking about how Trump is destroying the sacredness of the white house, and how the republicans are planning to destroy democracy. The most recommended books (although not the most numerous books) were books about personal finance, telling you how to make good financial decisions and make a profit.

In short, it was pure propaganda.

Propaganda is everywhere in regards to all types of media, but propaganda in the written word is very dangerous I think, since books have traditionally been an avenue of expressing dangerous ideas, and rebelling against a dominant ideology. Philosophy, great novels, and political theory are essential in every revolution. If all the bookstores are filled with books about electoral circus politics, spectacle nonsense, carrot-on-a-stick self-help bullshit, Ayn Rand and Barack Obama, it's going to be impossible for anyone to break out of their preconceived notions about the world. The modern world has no shortage of readers: young people today read more than ever, but the medium seems to be infected by propaganda, with far less resistance than you see towards propaganda in say, tv shows.

Is there any way to combat propaganda like this? How do we spread our ideas in a medium which belongs to the market? How do we spread revolutionary concepts on a large scale? And don't say memes.
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Mexico is first world and a south american superpower

>mexico city is first world
>highly industrialized with active large and well trained military
>above 100 million citizens and still growing consistently every year
>currently taking over the united states
>south americans and ordinary americans come to this place seeking a good life
>modernized and advanced
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Anarchism General 3.0 -Orsetti Edition

Thread for the discussion of Anarchism.

Old one is full (>>139334)

Foundational texts:
>Alexander Berkman, ABCs of Anarchist-Communism
>Peter Kropotkin, Mutual Aid: A Factor of Evolution
>Errico Malatesta, Anarchism and Organization

Contemporary theory:
>Tiqqun, This Is Not a Program
>Anonymous, Desert

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The End of the CHAZ myth

I see the point that "CHAZ proves that anarchism can never work" thrown around ML/AnCap/Conservative circles, so I just wanna put an end to this bullshit once and for all.


The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ - later re-named as Capitol Hill Occupied Protest - CHOP) was an occupational protest lasting from 8 June - 1 July 2020 on Seattle's Capitol Hill neighborhood. It rose spontaneously after the Seattle (WA) Police Department evacuated its east precinct building a week of acrimonious fighting between BLM protestors and the Seattle P.D. The project, occupying just a few city blocks along with Cal Anderson park, (https://postimg.cc/bGzK98JQ) morphed from a serious protest into a block party over time. (https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/seattle-autonomous-zone-videos-what-its-like-inside-the-chaz/ ; https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/18/seattle-microcosm-culture-wars-327205) The Zone started to shrink after some leading protestors started to negotiate with the Mayor about leaving (https://www.wsj.com/articles/seattle-protesters-negotiate-over-leaving-autonomous-zone-11591987159) and crime in the region soon forced city officials to clamp down and end the project (https://apnews.com/article/police-donald-trump-us-news-ap-top-news-shootings-3b3ff66474e05309a136ff24780dd4a5)

>Was CHAZ/CHOP an attempt at anarchism?

Here is the original list of demands that the CHAZ protestors published soon after the Seattle PD evacuated: https://medium.com/@seattleblmanon3/the-demands-of-the-collective-black-voices-at-free-capitol-hill-to-the-government-of-seattle-ddaee51d3e47

While there are a variety of propositions contained there that anarchists would agree to (Ex.: We demand reparations for victims of police brutality, in a form to be determined, We demand an end to the school-to-prison pipeline and the abolition of youth jails. Get kids out of prison, get cops out of schools. We also demand that the new youth prison being built in Seattle currently be repurposed. We demand that the City of Seattle and the State Government release any prisoner currently serving time for a marijuana-related offense and expunge the related conviction.) this isn't an anarchist platform, but rather a pro-BLM one. Nowhere does the list state that the protestors have any intention of the abolition of the state and hierarchy. Later on the protestors significantly broadened their demands into: cutting funding for the Seattle P.D., redirecting said money to attempts at restorative justice, and ensuring that the protestors would not be charged with any crimes (https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/07/01/885954675/seattle-police-start-to-clear-capitol-hill-protest-zone-after-mayors-order), propositions wide enough to garner the support of libs and socdems.

More evidence disproving CHAZ as an attempt at anarchism comes from the wording of the original list of demands itself. The word "demand" is italicized on every point (https://postimg.cc/rKHKYSPp). The protestors made it very clear through this that they were not seizing these things through violent revolution, but wanted the state to cede these to them. They were not looking to abolish hierarchy, but rather to advance the cause of BLM.

There is no evidence of any attempts to seize the means of production in CHAZ. In fact, businesses remained open. If anything it was "anarcho"-capitalism (https://www.thedailybeast.com/local-businesses-love-the-domestic-terror-autonomous-zone-in-seattle-actually ; https://www.quora.com/Inside-the-CHAZ-Capitol-Hill-Autonomous-Zone-are-pre-existing-businesses-open? ; https://archive.is/LoGDQ)

>What about the anarchists who claimed CHAZ/CHOP as anarchist?

They're wrong. People make false claims about what is an isn't anarchism all the time (especially young, terminally online anarchists). People often make the mistake of claiming the Paris Commune as anarchist, despite the fact that, as Errico Malatesta pointed out (https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/errico-malatesta-the-paris-commune) private property was respected and the bourgeoise maintained their status and power (from what I can tell, this was true in CHAZ, too https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/seattle-capitol-hill-autonomous-zone-chaz-extortion/). While most anarchists recognize the EZLN and Rojava as non-anarchist societies that reflect the decentralized libertarian socialism that anarchists want to build, many new, naïve anarchists erroneously claim the EZLN and Rojava as purely anarchist. The degree to which anarchists claimed CHAZ is muddied by MLs thinking that anarchist support for CHAZ equated to considering it anarchist (a mistake that they make with anarchist support for the EZLN and Rojava).

>Does CHAZ prove that a centralized, bureaucratic agency is necessary to maintain order?

No. There have been plenty of examples of societies (not always anarchist) maintaining order in a decentralized, anti-authoritarian fashion. Examples: https://anarchyinaction.org/#Societies

>Where can I go to learn more about CHAZ?

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Is Arron Maté and Grayzone Marxist, ML or Tankies in any meaningful sense?

Asking for an anon
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What are the chances that, With the coming collapse of the Afghan government, a left wing insurgency begins against the Taliban in the urban areas? I know this is highly unlikely with Afghanistan being the most reactionary and uneducated corner of the world still following a feudal social structure but Is there any chance something at least SLIGHTLY more based than theocrats and authoritarian liberals springs up? At least in small numbers? It'd be pretty disheartening to see an entire nation plunge back into darkness (not that it's better under the pro US government) with a whimper and no attempt at least by the intellectual elites to put up some kind of resistance?
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News 7/15/21

Lebanon crisis deepens as PM-designate quits over cabinet deadlock
Lebanon's Prime Minister-designate Saad Hariri has given up trying to form a new government after nine months of deadlock over its make-up, pushing the country deeper into crisis. Mr Hariri said it was clear that he would not be able to agree on cabinet positions with President Michel Aoun.

Iraqi Shia leader al-Sadr says will not take part in October vote
Shia leader Muqtada al-Sadr has announced he will not take part in Iraq’s upcoming election in October, saying he is withdrawing his support from the current government and the one that will be elected to replace it. One of the most influential figures in Iraq, al-Sadr led a political bloc that emerged as the biggest in the 2018 parliamentary election, with 54 seats in the 329-seat legislature.

Israel arrests dozens of Palestinian students in West Bank village
On Wednesday evening Israeli forces arrested tens of Birzeit University students in Turmusayya, a village in the centre of the occupied West Bank. The soldiers erected a checkpoint at the village's entrance, stopping two buses and arresting around 45 Palestinian students onboard. According to local media, the students were handcuffed and blindfolded, then forced to sit on the road before being taken to an unknown destination in a military vehicle.

True value of UK arms trade to Saudi Arabia worth over £20 billion since 2015, finds CAAT
BRITAIN sold over £20 billion worth of arms to Saudi Arabia during its war in Yemen, with the figure almost three times higher than the government’s records, anti-arms campaigners revealed today. A new report by the Campaign Against Arms Trade (CAAT) calculated that the sale figures of military equipment and services to the kingdom since 2015 by focusing on the use of open licences.

Drugmakers fined £260mn for overcharging NHS as price of life-saving medicine rose over 10,000% – British regulator
The UK’s Competition and Markets Authority (CMA) has fined several drugmakers for overcharging its health service. The body said the fines, linked to the sale of hydrocortisone tablets, should serve as “warning” to others. On Thursday, the regulator said drug companies would be forced to pay a total of £260 million ($360 million) in fines for engaging in prohibited practices.

Moon Jae-in asks for Vietnam's help in restarting North Korea dialogue
South Korean President Moon Jae-in requested Vietnam play a role in restarting North Korea dialogue during a phone call with Nguyen Phu Trong, the general secretary of Vietnam's Communist Party South Korea's presidential Blue House spokeswoman Park Kyung-mee said Thursday that the leaders of the two countries spoke for the first time since the inauguration of Trong to the leadership position in January, News 1 reported.

Torrential Rain And Flooding Are Wreaking Havoc Across Western Germany
More than 30 people have died and dozens are still missing in western Germany following torrential rain and flooding overnight Wednesday. One of the hardest-hit areas was the wine-growing, hilly Eifel region in the state of Rhineland-Palatinate. Six houses collapsed in the village of Schuld, and authorities say another 25 buildings in the village are at risk of caving in.

Cuba Temporarily Frees Food, Toiletries, and Medicines Imports
On Wednesday, Prime Minister Manuel Marrero announced that Cubans who return to their country through airports will not be subject to limits on the non-commercial importation of medicines, food, and toiletries. This provision will be in effect until July 19.

Venezuela opposition figure Freddy Guevara arrested
Mr Guevara previously sought refuge in the Chilean embassy in Caracas in 2017, after the government accused him of instigating violence during opposition protests. He was pardoned on those charges less than a year ago.

Mexico to invest one billion dollars in hydroelectric plants
The text states that CFE Deputy Director of Administration Miguel López revealed that the modernization of such plants will be carried out through an innovative financial mechanism which will allow the company to access financing at preferential rates.
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Whats your opinion on hungary?

can we talk about hungary and how they are a thorn in the side of the EU. looks like many nations in the east are turning against the EU imperialists trying to destroy european culture.
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Non-socialist revolutions

Leftypol talks a lot about socialist revolutions, but it doesn't seem to talk much about non-socialist ones. Non-socialist ones seem to generally be more common, so it seems like they would be worth discussing. That said, what do you think of them? When should they be supported and when should they be opposed? I am assuming that color revolutions are a big no-no, but what about other kinds? Suppose, for example, a big anti-monarchy, pro-democracy, but non-socialist movement sprouted up in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia is a US ally, so you can be fairly confident that this is not a color revolution. Would you support such a movement?
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Default are pretty good


Well I don't want to see you waiting
I've already gone too far away
I still can't keep the day from ending
No more messed up reasons for me to stay
Well this is not for real
Afraid to feel
I just hit the floor
Don't ask for more
I'm wasting my time
I'm wasting my time
You can't stop the feeling
And there's no reason
Let's make the call
And take it all again
Woah again
Months went by with us pretending
When did our light turn from green to red
I took a chance and left you standing
Lost the will to do this once again
Well this is not for real
Afraid to feel
I just hit the floor
Don't ask for more
I'm wasting my time
I'm wasting my time
You can't stop the feeling
And there's no reason
Let's make the call
And take it all
I'm wasting my time
I'm wasting…

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Any oldfags first get into politics in the mid-late 2000s and read a bunch of stuff on that old forum? I remember its first time I encountered the Ice Cream tasted so good. meme, not to mention sources that thoroughly challenged the conquest and black book shit that was popular back then.
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/nordpol/ - Nordic General - Skåneutgåvan

Thread for all things Nordic. Recommended languages: Finnish, Scandinavian and English.
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Is technological determinism bad? Whenever I read about it seems to be presented as a problem. But wasn't Marx himself a technological deterministic? The rate of profit will continue to fall because of advances in productivity spurred on by the advanced of technology. These changes in technology result in changes to the mode of production, our material existence, our culture.

What's the problem here?
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>go to third world country
>no homeless people, anyone who can't afford a home can literally just build one in the countryside with a bunch of rocks and sticks
>go to western country
>millions of people living on the streets, forced to live under bridges, sewers, abandoned factories etc…
Why do wypipo want the homeless to remain homeless? Like uygha just let them build a shack in the countryside, why do you have to treat them like vermin?
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Hey commies, tell me which innovations and technologies have been produced or ever came from a communist country? Car? Phone? Computer? All capitalist lol. The only thing you have on us is space travel, but what else? We stump you in basically everything realistic.
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project for a coup

the social situation in France is at an all-time low
liberalization destroys the country, laboratories, because of competition do not come out of vaccines for COVID
private companies leave France, leaving many unemployed
crime and delicity become worse than in America! the police are afraidit is out of breath, just like the army
the capitalist and slavery "nomenklatura" is composed only of rubbish and corruption
homelessness is on the rise, infrastructure is falling into disrepair because privatization has led to the deprivation of services unrelated to the race for profit
"democracy" is only an illusion in France, indeed, we can give our opinion, but what good if it is never listened to.
FRANCE IS COLLAPSING !!!! socially, economically, and educationally!
comrades of all nations! proletaires from all countries! the French people even if it is not ours for some, cries for help, a coup d'état in France has a probability56% to succeed, thanks to the army and the public services that will rally to our cause!
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Understanding politics before turning red

How did you process politics before turning commie? I'm asking since I find it baffling how liberals and rightoids view the world. Like, how do they live each day with such a simple worldview?

From what I can remember from when I was mostly apolitical (liberal) in high school, I was constantly confused by a political issue and the people discussing it. Everyone used very simple explanations for societal problems (e.g. school shooting -> guns). A memory of mine I constantly look back on was when some people in a class of mine were talking about the democratic primaries and Bernie and one person said they really wished Bernie wouldn't win. I asked them "Why?" and they couldn't come up with an answer. How could you not have an answer to such a simple question?

Anyway, how did you understand the political landscape before reading theory?
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What if we lived in a world where there was 0 restriction on illegal immigration worldwide?
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Evolutionary psychology/pickup artistry

Had an argument with a spergy incel guy irl who kept going on about how women want superdominant men because of presocietal human existence or some shit. He justified his (he admits literally sociopathic) pick up artists shit by saying its human nature. Seems like it a post hoc justification for whatever you want it to. What yall think about Evolutionary psychology and its uses in "game".
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Anybody have any tips or resources on how to organize or start an organization? I want to start a local anti-work organization, but I have no idea how to start outside of maybe making a wordpress website and a FedBook page. The purpose of the organization/club will just be to teach people about anti-workis, it won't be about agitation or anything like that—sorry, Feds.

Also, feel free to use this thread to discuss organizing strategies, sharing resources, and general discussion about organization.
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Discussion: a Q&A with Australian (lib) politicians

I'd like to hear /leftypol/'s thoughts on this video. I've compressed it to death to upload, because the original is geo-restricted to Australian IP addresses.

You Can't Ask That: Ex-Politicians (made by ABC, an Australian state broadcasting service)
Q1 00:49 "Power, Money or Ego; why did you get into politics?"
Q2 04:07 "You all lie what it suits you, are you surprised none of us trust you?"
Q3 07:00 "Behind closed doors, how ugly was politics?"
Q4 11:00 "How much bonking and drinking goes on in Canberra?"
Q5 13:55 "Politicians all look haggard. How much did it age you?"
Q6 17:50 "Surely the power must go to your head. When did get caught up in your own self-importance?"
Q7 20:46 "Why does politics shit on women?"
Q8 23:38 "Does being a politician set you up for life? How big is your pension?" (spoiler: Aus removed them in 2004)
Q9 26:00 "We all want leaders with vision, why don't we get them?"

Full source, if you have a VPN: https://iview.abc.net.au/show/you-can-t-ask-that/series/4/video/LE1817H005S00
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baby boomers didnt cause the housing crisis

Boomers in the united states only own around 66 million homes as a collective being that they're only 22% of the American population, what this in turn means is that most homes are owned by americans of all age ranges and more importantly


The fact that you can find vast empty open spaces pretty much all over the united states land that can stretch for 10s of thousands of kilometers before you can find hints of cities or even suburbs indicates that there is still plenty of space(dont forget most 3rd worlders dont struggle with homelessness either being that most 3rd worlders live with their parents or build their own homes). They didnt cause a housing crisis the houses had their prices inflated to such dramatic proportions that it became difficult for individuals to be able to shelter themselves and likewise a homelessness crisis formed so demand for housing would skyrocket keeping prices high and landlords wealthy
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Soooooo why dont capitalist just give workers basic rights and securities exactly? They have nothing to lose in the long run as it means proles become more obedient to their employers as they already work under decent conditions compared to their competition, workers have shown themselves worldwide to be more productive when given better conditions to work in and that as a middle class grows the portion of workers that can go onto spend their capital on material consumption naturally grows as well… the need to deliberately attack your own workforce seems arbitrary and self destructive
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Sources on how the Austro-Hungarian WW1 economy worked?

In the papers where he proposes in-kind calculation, Otto Neurath makes references to the fact that Austria-Hungary's army made heavy use of in-kind calculation. In a recent conversation I had with Paul Cockshott he mentioned that finding sources on how this actually worked is difficult. Does anyone know of a good place to look for information on this? Austrian anons? Mein schul-deutsch ist nicht genug für den Österreichisches sources zu lesen.

Some random leads I found:
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Beardtube growing

Post links to good and classpilled left wing youtube, podcasts, etc. no radlibs, grifters, and breadtube liberals
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6 MILLION! Yes you heard that right! 6 TRILLION! 6 trillion cubans are DEAD from the Cubacaust! What the fuck is wrong with us? How can we support this nazi fucking regime? We must fucking invade this dictatorial motherfuckers and bring them freedom!!! Lets fucking go /leftypol/ bros we must save the poor Cubans from the Cubacaust! How do we help them bros??????????
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Global Capitalism Update


It's that time of the year again, to get an update on capitalism's global instability and impending doom.

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Wildlife Management and the rural/urban divide!

Anons I originally talked a little bit about this in the burger thread. It goes so fast and its hard to go in depth on a topic, for long without a change of Pace. I have a most spiritual connection with the earth, the rain, the mountains, all of nature really. The idea that we are in the next great extinction event, that all the green of the earth we will turn to death. It's the greatest nightmare to be stranded on a uninhabitable planet, in the void of space in our life times. We have wars and the ever continuing of the use of fossil fuels ahead. The feedback loops and what we do in future wars… Will only exponentially speed this up.

The "left" with its carbon taxes and spending plans are leaving us in a sore unprepared positions. These obstacles that claim to be "left" aoc green libs… are greatly understating the task at hand. Major 180° forced decisions where needed yesterday. You see so called climate action is so cucked to this socdem policy. That little know what a proper socialist response to the climate change would be. I want to discuss that in this thread. Yes I know I could do a climate thread post too, still I want to have a long convo on this certain topic.

In the burger thread I asked about what would be better for the environment. Would it be better to move out of the city's and turn everything into a half rural half suburban sprawl? Or would it be better for the environment to push the rural and suburban into the cities. Is this conflict not the biggest battle , in macro-infrastructural issues?

^ above is what this thread is mostly about I want anons ideas, I also want anons to tell me how they feel on this. Also please point me to info that shows the cost of urban vs rural life? My view is that we should push inward towards the urban centers I do believe technologically we can do envio-friendly urbanization. I want to massively expand wildlife areas this takes a mass push towards the cities. I'm the anti-christ of pol pot fear me
Let's face it the planet needs a massive infrastructural revolution. The infrastructure of the 20th and 19th century, is falling behind our 21st century needs and what will need going forward. What direction is critical in cost to our planet and ourselves. What direction do you think we should go?
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General strikes

Is there any example of general strikes ever working? It often gets used by reformist types because they are scared of muh authoritarianism. Is it a viable strategy in any way?

Here's an upcoming US attempt: https://octoberstrike.com/

>Pic unrelated
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I think Dengists are disingenuous, Capitalists snakes but at the same time as long as they keep consolidating capital into the state it will create the best breeding ground for an actual Communist revolution. All the Communists will have to do violently take over over state, kill Xi's successor, and boom you already have a ready to go self-sustaining consolidated industrial system read for. Everyone is already used to working for the state the only difference would be labor vouchers and economic planning.

Deng is reformist but he I'd building the next stage of Capitalism and is infinitely better than the Atlanticist powers. The sooner China controls the world the better. Also if Xi could get Chinese boys wearing long hair again I'd really appreciate it.
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News 7/14/21

Bolivia set to build state-owned coffee plant in blow to Nescafe
BOLIVIA is set to build a new state-owned processing plant with local coffee producers to make instant coffee, President Luis Arce announced on Tuesday. The new plant will be in the Yungas region of La Paz, the country’s main coffee-producing centre.

Bolsonaro in hospital as hiccups persist for more than 10 days
The Brazilian president Jair Bolsonaro has been admitted to hospital complaining of abdominal pain after being struck down by an unremitting bout of the hiccups which has lasted for more than 10 days. Bolsonaro, 66, was reportedly taken to military hospital in the capital Brasília at about 4am on Wednesday, with one prominent Brazilian journalist claiming the president was suffering from a bowel obstruction.

Bolsonaro signed a bill allowing privatization of Eletrobras
President Jair Bolsonaro signed today a partially vetoed bill that paves the way for the privatization of Eletrobras, company that represents 30 percent of the electricity produced in Brazil. The regulation allows the company to attract new capital in the private market, affecting the State's 61 percent participation.

Unions renew calls for better pay as figures reveal inflation rising faster than wages
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) said the consumer prices index (CPI) rose to 2.5 per cent from a figure of 2.1 per cent the previous month, moving further away from the Bank of England’s 2 per cent target. The TUC called on Chancellor Rishi Sunak to end unfair pay restrictions, hitting key workers the hardest, that are keeping workers’ wages below rising prices.

Hotel workers in Qatar facing abuse in run up to World Cup, report says
Luxury hotel brands in Qatar have failed to protect migrant workers against labour abuse ahead of the 2022 Fifa World Cup, a London-based NGO said in its annual survey published on Wednesday. The Business and Human Rights Resource Centre reported that migrant workers in the hotels suffer from "extortionate recruitment fees, discrimination and being trapped in a job through fear of reprisal and intimidation".

Beirut blast demonstrators get past riot police and tear gas, smash front of minister’s home (VIDEOS)
Protesters marched to the house of Mohammed Fahmi earlier on Tuesday, demanding that the caretaker interior minister lift the immunity granted to government officials over last year’s devastating port explosion. Clashes soon broke out, and police and security officers beat back the demonstrators.

France 'was aware of agreement' between Lafarge and IS militants: Report
French intelligence officials were aware of an agreement between the cement manufacturer Lafarge and the Islamic State militant (IS) group in Syria in the summer of 2014, according to a news report citing a confidential government document. The report, published by the French daily Liberation on Tuesday, comes two days before the French Court of Cassation is due to decide on a number of charges against the company, including its indictment for "complicity in crimes against humanity" and "financing a terrorist organisation".

Assange may never recover from ‘torture’ at Belmarsh, suicide becoming more likely the longer he stays in prison – doctor to RT
The problem is potentially life-threatening, Hogan claimed, pointing to Belmarsh’s high suicide rate and noting that an inmate had recently taken his own life after just two days in the prison. Assange has endured some eight months without visitors due to Covid restrictions, and was only recently able to see his fiancée.

UK plans to end prosecutions for N Ireland ‘Troubles’ crimes
The U.K. government announced Wednesday that it plans to introduce a statute of limitations for alleged crimes committed during decades of violence in Northern Ireland, a move that would end prosecutions for killings by both British soldiers and members of militant groups.

Bandhwari Landfill Catches Fire; Protest against Waste to Energy Plant Continues
Amid the ongoing protests in Gurgaon to restore the green cover of Aravallis and minimise waste and pollution, the Bandhwari landfill, one of the biggest in North India and spread across 32 acres, caught fire this week. While the fire was brought under control much later owing to the rains in the city, the instance and the ongoing efforts to create a ‘Waste to Energy’ plant have yet again shifted the focus onto the failures of the implementation of the solid waste management rules (2016) along with the need for sustainable and viable options to manage waste.

Amazon rainforest now emitting more CO2 than it absorbs
Most of the emissions are caused by fires, many deliberately set to clear land for beef and soy production. But even without fires, hotter temperatures and droughts mean the south-eastern Amazon has become a source of CO2, rather than a sink.

MIT Predicted in 1972 That Society Will Collapse This Century. New Research Shows We’re on Schedule.
In 1972, a team of MIT scientists got together to study the risks of civilizational collapse. Their system dynamics model published by the Club of Rome identified impending ‘limits to growth’ (LtG) that meant industrial civilization was on track to collapse sometime within the 21st century, due to overexploitation of planetary resources.
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Oh so higher ups in the united states are getting worried about hyper inflation and the american dollar becoming worth nothing? About time…
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/CG/ Communism General - Saturn Edition

Let's talk about communism and the best 6th planet of our solar system. Get in, comrades.

>The first inhabitants of Italy were the Aborigines, whose king, Saturnus, is said to have been a man of such extraordinary justice, that no one was a slave in his reign, or had any private property, but all things were common to all, and undivided, as one estate for the use of every one; in memory of which way of life, it has been ordered that at the Saturnalia slaves should everywhere sit down with their masters at the entertainments, the rank of all being made equal
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Peasant revolts are human necessity

Peasant revolts seems to have been a regular occurrence in history; the drive to redistribute land after land was accumulated to a minority. In fact one of the last peasant uprisings was as recent as the 20th century. It is clear that in our capitalist hell reality the social question has been ongoing since the French Revolution, the solution being socialism.

One could argue that society has been twisted and degenerated by the lack of a new redistribution of wealth in society. Since the question is no longer of land, it’s of wealth, or property. Even the 1950s post war era saw redistribution taking form in capitalist society but now society has continued to degenerate further without any new mass redistribution, and the last time redistribution happened it happened after a war.

If the human will is to equalize things after it’s accumulated Into the hands of the few, it is inevitable that redistribution will have to happen if society is to survive and not devolve into pure chaos as it did as Rome fell. Will it require another world war to see a new light at the end of the tunnel? Or will it require the brutal collapse of the empire that currently represents the face of that inequality(USA)?
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Have internet bots ever been more blatant?

Used to be I was really skeptical of everyone being a bot or a glowie, but holy shit Cuba has really pulled the wool off my eyes, holy fuck. Mostly because I've seen this shit on my own, once when I watched a video of some Cuban singers singing about Fidel arriving and kicking out the gangsters and bosses, there were comments in Spanish: "That's when Fidel arrived, and everyone returned poor, except him. Great nation, great musicians. No way, only Cubans know …" watched some deux ex clips later, same fucking comments. Absolutely absurd how open it is this time. What other nothingburgers had a bunch of bots crowd around? do you think its the feds specifically or privately aligned bot farms?
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What does /leftypol/ think of Jüri Lina?
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Increase of retirement age announced during the pandemic

This crazy man announced a pension reform, pushing the age of retirement at 64 during a discourse about Covid and how the variant is dangerous. Vaccine will be obligatory at the start of august for going to bars, cinemas, restaurants etc…
He also announced unemployment allowance reform and said that "sometimes you get more $ during unemplyment than working"(typical right-winger discourse).

So he announced labour liberalisations reforms and told shit about people during a pandemic.

People are crazy, there is call for biiig protests on 14th july(national day we celebrate the Storming of the Bastille and later the behead of the king). Whatever there will be big protest here and starting in september. Hope all the angriness will get people in the streets like during Yellow Vests movement.

Oh and I forgot, the vaccine will become mandatory for firefighters, caregivers etc… but not for cops
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Reactionary Fragility

<our (community) is the greatest we can take on anything because we are the best!
>make even the weakest criticism of them
<how dare you do this you evil creature! You are tearing apart the very fabric of our (community) and undermining our immortal values! This is a conspiracy to instill moral relativism and cultural degeneration in our children!!!

Why are rightoids like this?
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Hot take:

a certain amount of crime and antisocial behavior should be tolerated in a society in order to avoid the populace turning into conformists and foster a spirit of rebelliousness and revolutionary thinking amongst the youth that can later be exploited to fight possible counterrevolutionary forces.

Has anyone come up with this before or something similar or am i the first autist?
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Transracial White-Supremacists

How to deal with them?
Their numbers are not low also, there is many of them
İs this what peak-neoliberalism is, where everyone lives in their own reality? Is that a synthesis between transracialism(thesis) and white-supremacism(anti-thesis) ?
Those fuckers are too hard to deal with it and problem is not they are exist but they are non-irrelevant; they have good significance* on politics.
İ'm tired with fuckers who call theirselves as "White" because they ""'feeeel"""" that
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Theres so much going on, yet it feels like nothing happens

School was never difficult, neither was entering the labour force and making a wage that could pay for independent living, I'm not sure why I'm working since I already have a garden and stock of food along with clothes my own home santiational,water and electricity sources. I'm just sort of living, there are riots and wars going on all over the planet, a fucking global pandemic, mass civil unrest with the rise of global unemployment and food prices yet it feels like none of them really mean anything significant especially for what's to happen for the long haul… holy fuck I'm bored with my existence, did I just become apathetic to my surroundings or do all men above the age of 30 come to feel like this in their lives…
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Does socialism actually fix or even change anything?

Arguments against capitalism go under the belief that letting individuals own the means of production will result in a system of hyper inefficient practices become normal in major buissnesses due to the falling rate of profit, constant and random market crashes resulting in markets becoming to unstable to be worth investing in and extreme wealth inequality coupled with low income mobility due to the rich finding increasingly abstract methods of exploiting the poor yet I feel like socialism wouldn't fix anything for the following,

the transition from individuals owning the means of production to workers owning the means of production isnt actually that large being that a manager whom works towards organizing his employees to do their jobs can still be considered a worker on top of that state controlled economies arent exempt to the rules of free markets being that free markets have existed since humans have discovered trade and likewise if certain policies just become self destructive they can still lead to a lot of damage, Lebanon is one example of this where most of its economy is run by the government yet due to constant mismanagement the result was soaring food and gas prices that increased unemployment rates and likewise inflation meaning there are now worries over civil war in the country or the ukraine famine where people like stalin took away bread and land from the kulaks which resulted in millions of Ukrainians dead along with the ussr becoming destabilized, or what happened in the famines that took place under Mao's regime that resulted in dozens of millions dead due to the man's poor decision making skills to address the crop eating pests and who should even be staffing those farms. Hell even for wealth inequality one could argue that socialism does little to combat those issues as wages can be decided by what the collective or the state wants to pay its citizens and you can end up with situations where the average chinese citizen lives on 10-15 dollars worth of yuan while members of the CCP are literal billionaires
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What is your honest opinion on Counterpunch? I keep following it because I like Jeffrey St. Clair and Patrick Cockburn, but half of what they publish has the feel of planted stories from the state department and the other half is so amateurish it's like they deliberately curate material from children.
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/brg/ Brasil/Brazil/Bra卐il general

Soon edition

Feel free to ask about any topics in English or Portuguese.

Melhor compilação dos atos circenses do executivo federal: https://medoedelirioembrasilia.wordpress.com/
Não inclui eventos nos picadeiros legislativo e executivo que não envolvem o executivo.

Narração em tempo real da CPI: https://twitter.com/camarotedacpi/

I wish there was a site collecting all the shit we are going through but it's too much, it's difficult to keep up with it, let alone compile all of it. The first link above is the best compilation of the happenings happening in and about the federal executive branch, but that leaves a lot out, and it's in Portuguese anyway.

In the past few days, the world has learned that the deliberate genocide by way of neglect and sabotage carried out by Bolsonaro wasn't just for fun, but for profit as well! They actively hindered efforts for certain vaccines – which happened to be the first ones available – so they could make dodgy purchases with taxpayer money from manufacturers willing to split the gift. So they ignored at least 101 e-mail messages from Pfizer starting as earliest at August 2020 – it turned out they wanted Brazil to be their big success case in Latin America, offered sweet prices and more. All of their messages weren't just refused but ignored. Bozo's circus also did their best to sabotage a state-level partnership with Chinese pharmaceutical company Sinovac which would allow us to start producing our own doses of their vaccine and quite ealier than most other vaccines as well. They also fucked with other state-level attempts to buy their own vaccines.

As soon as Indian vaccine Covaxin was available however they were all over it, and now we know why. In fact, we even have the invoices to prove their attempt to defraud a fucking vaccine purchase, and there would be foul play on the Indian side of the transaction as well, if only a brave public worker here didn't blow the whistle (he also was a Bolsonarist wew). The circus was also suspiciously eager to buy AstraZeneca's vaccines so we will soon find a similar attempt at fraud involving them too. Oh yeah, all of this doesn't even touch on the entire chloroquine shitshow, in which they profited as well. And all of this might still not cause his downfall because our elite (the worst in the world, I'll always repeat) tore apart the fabric of fucking reality in their years-long brainwashing campaign. On the bright side, Bozo has no chance at a successful coup. For the moment, I guess.

So as far as I can tell, Brazil is the first country to ever be genocided by its own democratically elected leader. Congrats fellas, we finally got a spot in world history books! And psychology books too. Especially the psychology ones.

Previous thread: >>288612
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Note the difference in coverage between protests occurring in nations allied with the US and those occurring in nations opposed to the US.

The Cuban protests are getting an extraordinary amount of mainstream news coverage while the Indian farmers' protests, which hundreds of millions have participated in, barely ever get any Western coverage. Are the Cuban protests really a more significant world event than the Indian farmers' protests? Of course not. It's just that one is occurring in a country the US generally has a favorable relationship with, while the other is occurring in a nation that the US has targeted with a several decades long complete economic blockade.

The media is not, has never been, and will never be a trustworthy industry. We must rely on it for information, but we can never swallow its narrative or its interpretation of events or even its representation of the facts themselves, at least not wholesale.
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Marxism is Over

Uphold the glorious precepts of Xi Jinping Economic Thought
Economic thought of China’s Xi Jinping to be immortalised in newly established research centre

>Chinese President Xi Jinping’s vision for a new branch of economics is fast becoming a reality, with his party announcing the establishment of an economics research centre in his name.

>The decision follows discussions over such a centre that began a year ago, and analysts say the move is part of Xi’s strategy to further strengthen his rule.

>The Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party – the party’s most authoritative body – on Monday gave the green light for a new “Xi Jinping Economic Thought Research Centre” in Beijing. This took place at a high-level government meeting during the plenary sessions of China’s economic planner, the National Development and Reform Commission.

>The government said the centre would become a think tank for the production of economic policies based on Xi’s economic ideas, which were core to his 30-year political blueprint known as the “Xi Jinping Thought on Socialism with Chinese Characteristics for a New Era”.

>That doctrine is now enshrined in both state and party constitutions.

>“The research centre must facilitate in-depth study and act as an important think tank for systematic research; [as a] platform for the publicity and implementation of the research; and would interpret and disseminate economic policies. It aims to be an open and influential centre in its field,” said the Economic Daily, reporting on the meeting.

>The committee also reviewed and approved the centre’s construction plans at the meeting, though no further details on its construction or opening were released.

>The announcement follows last month’s establishment of the Xi Jinping Research Centre for the Rule of Law, and the Xi Jinping Thought on Diplomacy Research Centre last year.

>The China Law Society runs the former, which produces in-depth research and interpretations of Xi’s ideas on the rule of law. The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs administers the latter, which studies Xi’s thoughts on diplomacy.

>It is uncertain what kind of new economic models or theories Xi might generate though the centre, but his so-called dual-circulation strategy could take centre stage.

>The strategy, which revolves around economic self-reliance, was first mentioned at a May 2020 meeting of the Politburo, China’s 25-member policymaking committee, largely as an answer to the economic upheaval caused by the coronavirus pandemic.
>The plan places a greater focus on the domestic market, or internal circulation, and is China’s strategic approach to adapting to an increasingly unstable and hostile outside world.

>Xi’s overall economic theory – dubbed Xiconomics – has been around for more than five years. It became a catchphrase after People’s Daily, the party mouthpiece, launched a series of articles in early 2016 to propagate “Xi Jinping’s economic thought”.

>The Chinese government first broached the idea of a new economics research centre a year ago.

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What do you think of Bahai faith? Is it "better" than christianity and Islam, in the sense that it is more compatible with communist beliefs? Aspects such as unification of humanity as a whole seem very cool to me and less it seems also less reactionary and more tolerant.
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The Western Left is (not so) Secretly Third Worldist

And I'm not even talking about the different MLM/M3W/GONZALO/TSE TUNG THOUGHT sects in the West, nor about the Rojava-/Chiapas-fetishist anarchists either.

No, I'm talking about our supposed "more mainstream comrades" from (platforms of) socdem, ML, Trotskyite, and other vaguely leftish parties. Whenever I hear Western "comrades" cry about how the proletariat disappeared or how revolution in the West is impossible (hence them abandoning not just Marxism, but radical thought as souch) while drooling over the Third World possibilities, ehile seeing them in clearly reformist groups they just confirm it to me that they completely gave it up and that deep down they want their salvation to come from outside the capitalist core.

Naturally, these (mostly) unconscious sentiments even found their theoretical expressions, typically shitting on AES and opting for a vague "new [impossible] revolutionary subject," such as students, immigrants, and all the idpol categories known to all of us.

So yes, even when these people lament the passage of le good old times, cry about how unions are either busted or became revisionist, never expect them to actually solve these issues. The best they can do is to tell you to vooote for Corbyn, Sanders, Tsipras, etc.
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Hey /leftypol/ I am looking for a quote of Marx where he explains that commodities trade at their labour time,

I don't remember the exact words which is why I can't find it, but it is rather extended and says something like "Therefore we see that it is not that the exchange of commodities which determines the worth of the labour, but the worth of their labour what determines it's exchange"

Have a cat
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Germany bans the Communist Party from it's so-called "democratic election"

Translations & commentary are welcome from German comrades.
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Happy Bastille Day!

Today marks the anniversary of the first major strike against European feudalism and what arguably constitutes the birth of the modern political left.
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why do you steal right wing culture

not a front or anything, im just curious

would it not be better to be original?
nobody will come here and being impressed when you are just a shitier version of 4chan
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What do you think would happen if civil war broke out in America today? Would foreign super powers intervene?
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Why does the Left hate White people?

Zoomer here, why do you think Whites are responsible for all the evil within this world? Why do you seek to deracinate, replace and destroy all semblance of White identity?
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Are there seriously any politicians that actually care about improving the material conditions of the people they rule or are they seriously all just around to push their ideological agendas…
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Potential /our guy/s

ITT: we discuss people who might be /our guy/, but it isn't certain. I'll start: is AMLO /our guy/? He's the most left-wing president Mexico has had in a while and he gave refuge to Evo Morales, but the Communist Party of Mexico is against him and the Tren Maya is controversial to say the least.
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What the fuck is wrong with britain?
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A thought on wars and their future in humanity

Wars occur because of a need for resources(more specifically easy access to resources, raw material exists everywhere on this planet it's just hard to get),or nationalism, a deterrent for warfare and certain types of weapons is destructiveness, if a war simply causes to much damage it becomes not worth investing in and hence a sort of peace is created. Due to the nuclear arms race and the rise of explosive and aerial combat war is on the decline worldwide as it simply causes too much damage in the short and long term meaning most wars these days are proxy wars between militias and coups rather than full scale invasions, another deterrent outside of destructiveness as to why war is on the decline is immigration. More regions of earth are becoming increasingly industrialized and capitalists want to see a return on their investments meaning there has been a global push for open borders worldwide with some radicals hoping to put the entirety of humanity in europe and north america, because of this a need to defend ones land and borders around the planet has diminished and as time progresses this new connected humanity will falter in violence as people become increasingly used to seeing each other
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people always talk about how "capitalism killed it's people" but in what way? are we attributing all of Tyrone's murders to capitalism? by this logic, shouldn't we be tallying the number of people who have died because they couldn't afford food in the USSR? what about murders by NKWD, should we include them to? and all the deaths caused by poor working conditions and gulags?

it always struck me as weird that no one tries to count deaths via communism
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Too much to read

With all the books in the world, how can we know whats important? Someone will always say to REALLY understand marx you have to Read Hegel, Ricardo, Smith, the utopian socialists, proudhon, Spinoza, the greeks, etc. etc.

To read all of philosophy while working a full time job and doing nothing else would take like 10+ years if not more, let alone all nonfiction, let alone fiction since for example reading William Gibson seems to be mandatory to understand the 99999 postmodern academics who cite him
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Hi I live in LatAm but I dont know anything about politics. So I come to communist website to get your perspective. I have 2 questions
1) Do you think south America can become rich one day?
2) Do you think Joe Biden can make this happen? I think hes controled by Obama
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News 7/13/21

'Colombia Has Become a Regional Threat', Venezuela Warns
On Tuesday, Venezuela’s Defense Minister Vladimir Padrino denounced that the tolerance of Colombian governments towards paramilitaries, drug traffickers, and mercenaries has generated a serious security problem in Latin America.

Joe Biden Wounds Cuba, Venezuela and China's Hopes of Obama-Style Detente
Biden's remarks disappoint leaders in Havana. Before Biden came to office, they hoped he would follow in President Barack Obama's footsteps and thaw relations with the island, reversing Trump's actions that tightened the Cold War-era U.S. embargo.

Opponents of Cuban government accused of running ‘fake social media campaign’ in bid to sow discontent
Spanish analyst Julian Macias Tovar examined digital networks and found large numbers of spam accounts liked to a right-wing Argentinian who has launched similar operations against leftwingers in Latin America, including former Bolivian president Evo Morales. Agus Antonelli is alleged to be behind a campaign to derail the Cuban revolution by manipulating the country’s economic crisis, which has been caused by former US president Donald Trump’s tightening of Washington’s long-standing blockade.

‘Save India’: CITU, AIKS and AIAWU to Launch Fortnight-long Campaign from July 25
The Centre of Indian Trade Unions (CITU), All India Kisan Sabha (AIKS), and All India Agricultural Workers Union (AIAWU) have jointly decided to launch a fortnight-long nationwide campaign from July 25, at a time when the Centre is not showing signs to concede to the demands of protesting farmers and workers any time soon.

Nepal Court Replaces Prime Minister After Months of Turbulence
The Supreme Court ruled as unconstitutional Mr. Oli’s move in May to dissolve the Parliament for a second time and call for early elections when his leadership was in question. In an indication that Mr. Oli had deprived the opposition of a chance to form a government when they had enough support, the court ordered Mr. Oli replaced as prime minister by Sher Bahadur Deuba, the leader of the opposition.

CPP Statement On Recent NPA Offensives In Eastern Samar And Masbate Provinces
The Communist Party of the Philippines (CPP) lauded today the successful tactical offensives of New People’s Army (NPA) units in both Eastern Samar and Masbate provinces to defend the masses against the fascist onslaught of Duterte’s soldiers in their villages. The NPA mounted three tactical offensives resulting in 30 total enemy casualties.

Israel blocks jailed Palestinian MP Khalida Jarrar from attending daughter's funeral
Israel on Monday barred imprisoned Palestinian lawmaker and political prisoner Khalida Jarrar from attending her daughter's funeral, a day after she died from cardiac arrest. Jarrar - a prominent political activist and member of the Marxist-Leninist organisation the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) - was sentenced in March to two years in prison by an Israeli military court for "inciting violence" and belonging to a "banned organisation".

Actions by KBDH Gülnaz Aegean Revenge Militia
Our Women's United Revolutionary Movement (KBDH) Gülnaz Ege Revenge Militia reported that they set fire to many vehicles belonging to AKP-MHP fascism gangs, a house of fascists and trucks during the actions they organized in three cities.

​​​​​​​Politician: Syrian opposition a Turkish puppet diverted principles
"the Turkish state has occupied Afrin and other areas of Syria and this is irrefutable evidence of Turkish ambitions, one of the reasons for the derailment of the Syrian revolution is the fragmentation of the opposition, which today has become in serving Turkish state, whenever Turkey wants; the opposition betrayed the Syrians in achieving their demands Asia said.

Google hit with record fine by French regulator in copyright law row
FRANCE’S competition regulator fined Google €500 million (£427.6m) today for failing to negotiate “in good faith” over the use of content under EU copyright legislation. The fine is the biggest ever issued by the Competition Authority for failing to abide by its rulings, spokeswoman Isabelle de Silva said.
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What's the lefty opinion on Napoleon? Based or cringe?

Was conquering all of Europe a good thing even though it killed and starved a lot of people and brought in decades of reaction? I'm gonna say he's cringe for losing but based for trying.
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What's the object of Marxism?

If it's a science, what is its object of study?

Is it humans? Is it society? Is it history? Is it solely class? Could it be THE PRODUCTIVE FORCES?
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Do we need to get rid of America as an entity?

This sounds like more of a /USApol/ topic but it's more history-centric rather than current politics
Is there a way to encompass a Debs type of Socialism that honors men like John Brown and Thaddeus Stevens for their revolutionary progressivism instead of just wiping it all away? The former would be a much better way to relate to Americans and make them less scared of moving out from reactionary thinking then the latter, but the latter would follow the must-dos for socialism apparently
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News 7/12/21

Peruvian prosecution to investigate Keiko Fujimori's alleged “disturbing of the vote”
As per the preliminary results and after more than a month, leftwing candidate Pedro Castillo appears to be the winner, although by a narrow margin. Congresswoman Liliana Takayama, of Fujimori's Fuerza Popular (FP), is also under investigation, it was announced. Fujimori has other open cases for corruption and irregular financing of her campaign.

'A New Condor Plan Is Underway in Latin America', Morales Warns
Bolivia’s ex-President Evo Morales warned about the implementation of the new Operation Condor in Latin America. He pointed out this possibility given the growing evidence of the participation of Ecuador's ex-President Lenin Moreno and Argentina's ex-President Mauricio Macri in the 2019 coup against him.

Cuban leader warns of US-backed opportunists seeking to destabilise country
CUBAN President Miguel Diaz-Canel called for a united struggle against the crippling US embargo on Sunday as he warned that opportunists were seeking to take advantage of the economic crisis. Large protests have been held in the socialist island, where the economy has shrunk by 11 per cent due to Washington’s continued blockade as well as the impact of the coronavirus pandemic.

NPA Carry Out Successful Offensive In Masbate Province
Revolutionary justice was awarded by the Red fighters of the NPA’s Jose Rapsing Command (JRC-Masbate province) on July 10, 5:30 am in Sitio Balunos, Brgy. Rizal, Dimasalang. Four were killed and 17 wounded among the mercenary army of the US-Duterte regime in the ambush conducted by the JRC.

MP: Barela Tribals Rendered Homeless as Forest Department ‘Attacks’ Fields and Homes
Amid the ongoing pandemic, over 40 tribal families belonging to the marginalised Bhil and Barela adivasi community in Madhya Pradesh’s Jamniya area, falling under the Khandwa district, have been rendered homeless. In its proceedings, the state forest department on July 10, bulldozed several houses despite an ongoing stay on any evictions amidst the pandemic.

Palestinian party expels minister who refused to resign over critic death
Palestinian Authority Labor Minister Nasri Abu Jaish has been expelled from the Palestinian People’s Party after he refused to quit in protest over the death of anti-corruption activist Nizar Banat. Two weeks ago, the Palestinian People’s Party, formerly the Palestinian Communist Party, announced it had decided to withdraw from the PA government in protest over the death of Banat shortly after he was arrested by PA security officers in Hebron.

Journalist dies after being beaten by homophobic mob while covering canceled Tbilisi LGBT Pride march, Georgia erupts in protest
The body of Alexander Lashkarava, one of a dozen journalists attacked during mob violence against LGBT+ activists, was discovered by his mother on Sunday. According to his colleague Miranda Baghaturia, the Pirveli TV cameraman was beaten by a mob of 20 people last Monday and sustained multiple injuries, resulting in him having to undergo surgery. He was discharged from the hospital on Thursday.

Concerns raised over MSPs exploiting lobbying loopholes
INVESTIGATIONS into undocumented lobbying being carried out within the Scottish government has raised concerns about loopholes being exploited by ministers. Joint analysis by media co-operative The Ferret and the Herald newspaper found that hundreds of meetings held had not subsequently been reported to the lobbying register.

Police investigate racist abuse of three England players
British police opened investigations Monday into the racist abuse of three Black players who failed to score penalties in England’s shootout loss to Italy in the European Championship final.

WHO: Rich countries should donate vaccines, not use boosters
Top officials at the World Health Organization say there’s not enough evidence to show that third doses of coronavirus vaccines are needed and appealed Monday for the scarce shots to be shared with poor countries who have yet to immunize their people instead of being used by rich countries as boosters.
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Barney Ford's letter to his slavemaster

I happened upon this open letter from an extraordinary man informing his slave master of his desertion. When it was first published the Chicago Western Citizen newspaper editors declared that "Our readers cannot fail to sympathize warmly with the manly spirit which it breathes." I believe the readers of /leftypol/ will feel similarly.

<Sir, I never thought that it would be my duty to write you a letter of this kind, but of necessity I am driven to it. Sir, I have thought seriously and deliberately upon this matter, and have finally come to the conclusion that I am entitled to my liberty. Sir, you know that you have told me a great many times that I was as free as you were: Well, I listened to you, but I could not make it appear so to me. You say that you have to work harder than I do. Admit that; I ask who enjoys the income of your labor? Can you say that I enjoy it, or can you say that I ever enjoyed the half of what my services were worth to you? Now, sir, if I were as free as you are, why did you not pay me for my services? You could not have thought that I was satisfied with what you chose to give me. For instance, you have not given me a decent suit of clothes since you have owned me, which is now almost five years; and you don’t like to see me have on anything to make me look well; if I would wear your old clothes, you would like me much better. There is another thing in consideration — in our travels about, you always, as is natural, want the best accommodation, when you have it to pay for; then, if I am as free as you are, I should want the same. But I notice this, that you always try to get me on the floor in your room to sleep, and when a chance offers for me to get a bed, you will not let me have it if you can help it, as I have frequently heard you say that anything on the floor would do. And there is another thing; you have a way of calling me boy, and negro, when before gentlemen. Now I don’t think that this makes you look any larger, and I assure you that it makes me feel much smaller.

<I have told you that I would not leave you, but I find that I can’t serve God and serve you; for when I am reading my Bible at night, after waiting and putting you to bed, you frequently make me quit reading and go to bed, so that I can get up early to serve you. Now, sire, if I was as free as you are, you could not have such dominion over me. I am now actuated by your own words. You say that I am as free as you are; well, if I can do better by myself than I can with you, I feel that I am at liberty to do so; for this is common to all free men. Then it can’t be said that I have run away from you, if I am as free as you say; and moreover, I am free according to the laws of this state, which I learn are as follows: If a man brings his slave here and remains in the state 10 days, that the slave is then free. So, with this on my side, I don’t think that I have done wrong in leaving you. But there is one thing — you shall not have it to say that I stole your money and ran away from you. I have left you without a dollar in my pocket, and sink or swim, I shall depend on my own exertions for a living. I have served you faithfully for nearly 5 years, and now I can’t show a dollar; and if I were to serve you 10 years more it would be no better. Well, supposing that I have been worth $150 a year to you, and have served you 4 years and 6 months, then you have made $675, or saved that much; then you have lost nothing by my leaving you. Surely you could not want me to work a lifetime to pay for what you gave for me, when in the above statement it is already paid.

<Now, sir, I must bid you farewell; I expect to go to Canada, but I don’t know at what point I shall stop, and if you will excuse this liberty, I shall not impose any more of my letters upon you. I hope you will not wish me ill, as I am acting in self-defense; and as I know when you got married I should see a hard time. Sir, you have my best wishes for your success in your present and future engagements, and if we never meet on earth, I hope to meet you in Heaven.

<Your humble servant, B.L. Ford

<Oct. 10, 1848
<Quincy, Illinois

Mr. Ford lived a remarkable life as a free man. He escaped slavery without so much as a family name– he took his middle and last name from a steam locomotive in Chicago, the Lancet Ford. He worked in Chicago as a barber for quite some time before setting off for California to pursue the gold rush. Rather than completing this journey he settled in Greytown, Nicaragua to open a hotel whose success was nearly as rapid and intense as its demise: three years later, it was destroyed by the US Navy's bombardment of Greytown. This was not the only time he came to the brink of ruin: after returning to the states he established a Denver barbershop that was lost in the Great Fire of April 1863. Following this he secured a loan to open a restaurant that became a massive success. In 1872 he sold all his stake in the restaurant industry to found a luxury hotel in 1872, which he would lose to the Panic of 1873 financial crisis. He restored some of his fortune before his death by opening a restaurant in Breckenridge, CO and profiting off of mining investments.
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Musk is a thad

Why do you dislike Elon Musk? He's the GENIUS of our time!
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I am a Capitalist, what are your best arguments?

Hello everyone, I am a capitalist. What are your best arguments against Capitalism?
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How are housing cooperatives supposed to work when shit like this happens? These people had a published engineering report telling them exactly what was wrong, all they had to do was hire someone to fix it and collect fees from the residents to pay for it, but out of ignorance/stubborness they refused, and now many of them are dead.

I'm sure our resident anti-Yugo posters can give examples of workers cooperatives exhibiting the same short-term thinking. But when it comes to housing, people already seem to hate HOAs and condo associations charging people for maintenance and requiring collective meetings to decide rules or fees. But I see leftists proposing housing and producer cooperatives as a solution to housing affordability and workplace democracy, and I just want to ask how? How are cooperatives gonna scale up to cover modern high-rises and multinational corporations? What will prevent co-op members from being cheapskates/free riders and choosing to pocket money rather than pay maintenance fees or invest profits to stay in business?
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Cuba apreciation thread

despite all the efforts cuba is being sieged by the US media, gusanos and liberal "influencers" and there is a very low chance of surviving this time, so lets make a cuba apreciation thread
don´t be sad becouse it ended be happy that it happened, good night sweet prince

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A lot of people called it prison, when I was growing up

Facebook’s business model is pretty simple. Get people to sign up with their personal information and connect with friends (and maybe someone attractive you briefly met at a house party). Then take that detailed personal information and use it to microtarget advertisements at exactly the right demographic for advertisers and political campaigns.

Mark Zuckerberg does not believe in privacy. Before facebook, people mainly used screennames and aliases online. It was facebook that changed this, so that people used their real names and faces online. Which is what he considers one of his big accomplishments. Needless to say, I hated this development and I’ve hated the culture it created ever since. Zuckerberg says he made the world more “open and connected”. Another way of saying that is more surveilled and more bothered by busybodies. Anonymity is freedom. There’s a reason every year young people leave small towns across this land to move to big cities, because living in a place where everyone is in your business all the time and a bunch of gossiping people is a prison-lite environment. In a small town, even if you change, evolve, and become a totally different person, people will still remember and think about the things you did as a teenager or when you were twelve. I hate facebook because he’s turned the whole world into one big small town, from which there is no escape. People say the internet is making the world a smaller place, but has anyone ever stopped to ask if its getting too small? But yes, it does make a lot of money. And all they had to do was ruin the internet and possibly break politics to do it.
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China has 0 geopolitical or economic incentives to annex hong kong taiwan or any other country

Most of chinas land is industrialized and unused meaning that the chinese government has the opportunity at any interval to simply continue expanding its cities and increase its population and urban development on it's own land rather than try to expand outwardly(it's actually cheaper and less risky in the long run aswell). The amount of hate and political discourse over chinese expansionism is arbitrary and in the long run the country is better off being more like japan with its isolationism and tending towards it's own mainland success than trying to conquer the planet for no particular fucking reason
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Uhhhhh leftbros....

I thought it was purely socioeconomic conditions that made black people do worse?
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Socialism For Self-İnterest:For Me!!!

I hate the how leftists always(mostly) oppose selfishness, despise greed and rightists always acknowledges selfishness&greed is good but defends capitalism
No, i support socialism for myself! I want all of the property (both private&personel) owned by porkies, i want to steal all of them; i know the property-rights and fuck them! İ want them!
I don't want to work for people who are not me and my labor to be stolen by them, i want to work for me,no, I WANT EVERYONE TO WORK FOR ME! Under Socialism everyone will work for each other; that means everyone will work for me and I WANT IT!
Socialism gives greater material prosperity for people,YES,I WANT IT! I WANT TO LIVE LIKE RICH!! Socialism gives lower working hours,GREAT, MORE TIME FOR FAGGOTRY! Socialism creates better artistic society,GREAT, MORE BOOKS, MUSIC AND ARTWORKS FOR ""ME""! Socialism gives better sex live,AMAZING, I WANT TO BANG ALL OF HOES
Fuck off with your " NoOoO GrEeEd And EgO BaD, Yo ShoUlD bE lİkE BudDhA FagGot tHaT liKe VeRy GoOd PeRsOn" moral-faggotry nonsense; proles hate that! Greed is our way to socialism. Go back to your bullshit pastel-colour spiritüalist-hippy commune
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Aside from casus belli and optics, I've really wondered why anti-imperialist states don't just start arresting rioters AND shoot their brains out live on national television, pink mist and all. You would think the aesthetic shock value would absolutely terrorize both domestic traitors and foreign agents and gusanos alike and deter a war through sheer gruesomeness.

I really want to see a nuke armed anti-imperialist country go directly for that in the future and play the heel.
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JFK assassination

Who killed him? Was it Oswald or somebody else? Was he a patsy? Was there a conspiracy, or was it lone gunman?
Was the CIA behind it? Was George Bush senior involved? What was the role of the Cuban exiles? Did the mafia or Castro have anything to do with it?
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Best theory of the last 30 years?

A common criticism of Marxism is that it's an outdated theory written 200 years ago and no longer applies to contemporary society, or that now that the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact are dead, there's no point to studying it anymore. While this is clearly a braindead take used to denounce Marxism without having to read what it even is, it's not necessarily entirely wrong, because pretty much most of the main works of ML or Anarchist theory still discussed today were written somewhere between the mid 19th century and early-to-mid 20th century. Are they right that leftist theory is outdated? What are the best works of theory written after the so-called 'end of history'? How has Marxism and Anarchism been updated for the current era?

inb4 I awaken every post-leftist shitter on this board
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You can think of race and class at the same time

identity politics is not race essentialism at all and it certainly takes class seriously. Do you know how the term 'identity politics' originated. It was originated by the combahee river collective. You can read the combahee river collective statement yourself and see that class was certainly on the agenda. If you truly want to unite a very diverse working class youre going to have to understand identity politics. At least read what it is…not just regurgitate right wing misconceptions of identity politics or liberal misuses of it.
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I view the failures of the west as a byproduct of westerners

When I say that north america and northwestern europe along with Australia rest on trillions upon trillions of raw resources that are free for anyone to take advantage of I mean it, look at western countries on a fucking map and you'll notice the literal 1000s of kilometers of unused land that the people arent taking advantage of in countries like britain alone. The fact that the united states was the most industrialized country on earth that somehow finds itself constantly intervening in foreign affairs in the name of the pursuit of resources and migrants despite the fact that there are multiple patches of land with identified fresh water oil and rare earth metal resources on them on their own land says alot about the inefficiencies of how westerners ran their societies, they had literal centuries since the industrial revolution and the age of enlightenment to take full advantage of the earth beneath them and did next to fucking nothing substantial with it than slaughter each other in world wars over ethnic and ideological differences, westerners still have more opportunities for success than 90% of the planet yet find themselves having consrrvative politicians that are crying over the idea of getting taken over by china and africa in the coming years and instead of actually doing the one thing that would save their hides like working and building a society that could combat their problems they choose to do nothing and slowly let themselves erode into hyper inefficient neoliberal dystopias. It's so disappointing to watch because westerners could've done so much more with the time land and people they had, oh well…
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Tell me if I'm crazy or if it's been already thought of or done before but I'm wondering why we can't just progressively build communism starting from scratch? Let's say we take someplace in Africa that doesn't have a very strong food security and we make a factory, let's say it's a solar powered hydroponic farm. We would then pay the worker mostly in labor vouchers so they can eat the food we grow and whatever is left over we sell as a commodity. The organization retains a certain percentage of that profit as a tax for upkeep, expansion, and other services with the rest the currency used on behalf of the workers to buy needed goods which we don't currently produce. We then look at what items they're buying and then when we have enough capital we build another factory and do the same thing thing over and over again. Gradually as we build our way through the supply chain we will continually lessen our need to produce any commodities and start using cockshott style algorithms to plan and allocate resources.
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Communist Architecture

If we had to design a new modern architecture and city planning for a modern Communist society during the dictatorship of the proletariat stage what would that look like? Are homes individuated? Are work and residential still separated? Would factory and agricultural cities differ?

I don't want to tread old ground nessessairly but are there any people who write about the way space should be physically organized across multiple scales in a communist society?
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Why are people anti tech

Technology needs to advance whether or not it's in everyone's interest otherwise nothing gets done, there NEEDS to be advancements in space tech and exploration, there NEEDS to be advancements within bioengineering, there NEEDS to be major advancements in ai and circuitry otherwise humanity as a collective stalemates in progress and god knows what potential new opportunities become closed off forever. Learning how to gtfo of this planet matters alot more in the long term than fucking public healthcare
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What would you do for product branding in a socialist society.
Would you continue with the capitalist branding and marketing system which is attention grabbing but uninformative.
or would you go for a more materialist naming scheme that leans towards an objective product information system, that might be a little dull.
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Optomism Thread

This board is extremely, extremely pessimistic. Their are way to many dormers. Back in 2016 and 2017 this board was a lot more optimistic. Post good news in this thread.
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/HCG/ - Historical chads general

The most powerful type of propaganda is the the type that demonstrates the full capabilities of the individual in making a difference, no matter how small it is. People need to feel like they can actually do shit if push comes to shove and leave their imprint on the path of struggle.

Let's collect stories of lesser known left-leaning individuals in history that you gain inspiration from.
Let's remind ourselves of stories of courage, skills and martyrdom that lone comrades demonstrated.
We had a thread like this last year on Bunkerchan and there were so many amazing and inspiring stories of people fighting against the odds. Unfortunately I have not saved a single one but if anybody has any, let's hear them!
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/SEA/ - Southeast Asia General

Volume 4: Finally some actual riots edition

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Elections, open orgs, jungle NPA or just random shit. There’r still dozens of us! Kiwis are welcome! South Asia can joined too I guess.

Last threads
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>stops your meme from going viral

200 char limit means I have to explain that a major problem for the left today is intelligence agencies making everything we try ineffective. You can't just blame everything on "present conditions" not being just right. There are well funded forces at work that have a long history of fighting communism and their methods are probably very effective. If we want to further our cause as communists this problem has to be addressed
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Marky Mark

Happy birthday to the late, great Mark Fisher. May he rest in power. ITT discuss his philosophy or maybe post quotes or say some nice things about Mark.
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==The most effective leftist organization in american history?==

<Is ACORN the most effective American socialist organization ever?

So actual information on the subject of the org ACORN is hard to find, and the Wikipedia page is not very informative. I always thought that it was simply another mildly successful org for tenant rights. However I found out the actual activities and strength of ACORN from a right wing hitjobbey outlet. however if they only did 1/2 of what was claimed, it would have done much more then any other to spread socialism here.

>Was the largest radical group in America, with more than 400,000 dues-paying member families and more than 1,200 chapters in 110 U.S. cities as of 2008

>“ACORN … organizes crude protests against businesspeople and public officials. Opposed to the profit motive and capitalism in general, it pushes for more government control over citizens and the economy. ACORN supports gun control, a government monopoly in healthcare and an open door immigration policy. It supports a big raise in the federal minimum wage and so-called ‘living-wage’ laws enacted by states and cities. ACORN wants more funding for urban public schools, and wants federal and state laws enacted guaranteeing paid sick leave for all full-time workers. The group claims to fight for affordable housing and it rails against foreclosures and so-called ‘predatory’ lending, even though it demands that banks make loans [to underqualified borrowers] destined to default.”

>As noted above, housing activism was a major priority for ACORN, which formed housing collectives in a host of targeted areas. These collectives pressured local authorities to place them (the collectives) in charge of renovating and managing abandoned or dilapidated properties for poor tenants. In turn, the local authorities provided money for renovation — much of which ended up in ACORN bank accounts. The tenants were compelled to “earn” their new homes by investing “sweat equity”; i.e., working without pay on renovating the properties. ACORN or its designated “housing collective” retained title to the land on which these buildings stood. If the tenants decided to move out, they were required to give their property back to ACORN, at cost, no matter what the market value of the property.

>As an ACORN insider my indoctrination as a socialist was a slow but steady progression from radical liberalism to embracing the stealth socialist methods that had made ACORN a powerful force in American electoral politics…. Inside ACORN offices across the country, young, idealistic liberals were being ingrained with the Saul Alinsky style of Organizing. Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals was never mentioned by name, but Alinsky’s tactics were used on employees and ACORN members. ACORN’s strategy of stealth socialism was aimed at gaining power through duplicity and somewhat assimilating into society…. I once asked Marcel Reid, former ACORN national board member and President of DC ACORN, how it was possible for ACORN to push its agenda and she replied ‘We never use the word Socialism.’ ACORN’s appeal was to simply implement a Socialist agenda without ever saying the word.”

In 1998 in New York, ACORN founded the Working Families Party (WFP). When WFP endorsed Hillary Clinton in her 2000 U.S. Senate race, canvassers from ACORN and its sister groups launched a statewide voter-mobilization drive that proved influential in Mrs. Clinton’s victory. In November 2001, a coalition of radical politicians led by ACORN-sponsored candidates running on the WFP ticket won a veto-proof majority on the New York City Council, giving ACORN de facto control of the New York City government.

But we can gain some idea of ACORN’s revenues (as of 2008) by multiplying the organization’s 400,000+ member families by the $120 annual membership fee, which yields a total of approximately $48 million. According to ACORN’s website at the time, “Membership dues and a host of grassroots and chapter-based fundraising programs pay for 70 to 75 percent of the entire organization’s budget.” If that was indeed the case, ACORN’s annual intake was at least $64 million. Some of those revenues came in the form of taxpayer dollars furnished by the federal government: Between 1994 and 2008, ACORN received a total of $53 million in federal funds earmarked for so-called “community organizations.”

<ACORN should be model for socialists to follow, in a time when socialism was extremely demonised and welfare and big gubmint were career decimating words they managed to be more effective then current day DSA. Especially Maoists groups of which there are a dime a dozen in the USA should pick up on these tactics. MFW your face when you realize that SAGE was right.

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What exactly leads to people becoming how do I phrase this in the simplest way possible
>Barbaric and uncivilized
Is there an ideological or economic reason as to why some folks on this planet are capable of behaving themselves and turning out successful while others arent?
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Socialism is anti-American

And no, I don't just mean the government. Socialism is diametrically opposed to the interests of American people, and most socialists have a burning hatred for us. Americans have found themselves in conflict with socialists from Day 1. From assassinating one of our presidents in 1901, to sabotage of the war effort in World War II, to giving our nuclear weapons designs to an enemy in the 1940s, to being our main enemy during the Cold War, to trying to destroy American civilization in the present-day, socialists have always been enemies of the American people.

Now what is the root of this conflict? There's a couple of things.

Firstly, the interests of Americans and the interests of socialists (and the people who tend to gravitate to socialism) are diametrically opposed to one another. The continued survival of American civilization is dependent on the extraction of resources from foreign countries. However, this extraction is harmful to those countries and thus their people turn to communism in order to fight it. Our relationship with these countries is like that of a wolf and a sheep. We need to feed on sheep to survive, but many sheep have to die in order to feed us. This is a conflict that will never be resolved until the destruction of one or both of our civilizations. This is why we go to war so much.

Secondly, our culture is incompatible with socialism. We are individualistic, while socialism is collectivistic. We thus naturally find socialism to be repugnant.

Some socialists pretend that socialism would benefit Americans, preaching "worker solidarity" or some other Marxist slogan, but this is not the case. The only honest socialists are Maoist-Third-Worldists, as they acknowledge that our interests are diametrically opposed to that of communists.

Now what about American socialists? Surely they aren't anti-American, right? Wrong. The vast majority of American socialists are either a) recent immigrants who have not yet assimilated into American society and thus still cling to ideologies, like socialism, that they brought from their native lands, b) self-loathing college students, or c) black sheep who turn to socialism in order to spite the society they do not get along with.

Now I imagine a lot of people on this site will read "Socialism is anti-American" and reply "That's a good thing, right? Isn't America the root of all evil?". I would reply to this by saying that I can understand why people hate us. If I were Cuban or Iraqi or Chinese or whatever, I would probably hate Americans too. Much like how I would hate wolves if I were a sheep. However, I do think socialists need to be honest and understand that a) socialists and Americans will never get along and b) Americans will never embrace socialism.
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I need a moment to pause and reflect for a sec

Its 2021 there are multiple riots going on worldwide
A fucking global pandemic and multiple vaccine companies going to war with their customers over complaints of vaccines being ineffective and harmful to others
The afghanistan war just ended and now the taliban just went to civil war
Lebanon has collapsed with jihadism being a generally growing problem in all of northern africa and some sects of east africa
Food prices and prices for all sorts of commodities worldwide are soaring globally leading to increased civil unrest
The economies of canada, britain, france germany and Denmark are in stagnation if not on rapid decline leading to civil unrest and calls for reactionary views
Eastern europe is growing into an even bigger warzone each year
Drug cartels especially in mexico actually became an even bigger threat after the pandemic hit leading to them becoming deadlier than ever
Egypt's politicians are calling for war on ethiopia over a dam dispute

Did I get everything or is humanity such an unbelievable colossal fuck up of a species that I'm still missing a mountain of autistic problems
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Normalfags really believe a 6 figure salary makes you successful

Why? It's nowhere near enough…
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Why do modern capitalists pay more than subsistence in first world countries? I understand that imperialism has something to do with it but I don't quite understand how Imperialist wealth trickles down into the low working class.
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While I do agree with what leftypol says most of the time about the west, I can not agree with what is said about Stalin. The west does only paint Stalin in a bad light and does not show his achievements, at the end of the day he still was a genocidal and in no way a democratic or fair man.
Like could you just explain to me why the USSR targeted my people during the great purge? Why was it that any ethnic latvian, who arrived in Russia after 1920, was sent arrested and 75% of whom were sentenced to a death sentence. Could you explain this "Latvian operation" as it's called? Why was it that all latvian, non Stalin loyalists in the USSR higher government were magically either dead or in prison, that doesn't seem particularly democratic of him.
Also how can you explain the multiple innocent latvian military officials who were shot on sight right as the USSR illegaly occupied the baltic lands? And what about the tens of thousands of innocent families were deported to work in the harsh siberian wastelands? How is any of that democratic . Like you can't just sit there and say that he wasn't performing any type of ethnic cleansing like cmon.
P.S. is occupying your neighboring nations democratic and noble?
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Are there genuinely any educated reactionaries and right wingers?

It feels like every single god dambed right wing idiot on this planet is completely incapable of doing something as simple as reading a fucking book or discussing politics outside of id/pol/ faggotry… I just want to hear nonleftists ideas that dont completely revolve around minorities or non Germanic Europeans pledging allegiance to their grand masters without understanding that they would've been genocided under that assholes policies yet it feels like all of them either worship capitalism and authoritarian governments until they get affected and vilify minorities for existing even when they don't affect their lives…
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The case for Anti-civilization

It may be dumb to discuss it because there isnt a global future and in some places civilization will retreat and in others it will grow. But what are some criticisms of civilization by anarchists or marxists? Is anti-civilization compatible with socialism? It anti-civilization the end point of communism?
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considering the defeat of the populist right, I've been seeing that desantis is the new meme candidate alongside tucker carlson. I already see that a lot of the memelords are abandoning trump and jumping over to desantis and shit. I think that the right-wing will have a revival as it seems as if the general desires for conformity and for shit to not change is still within the proles minds. That and Biden has already made it clear that he will work with the corpos here to destabilize the south america. How do you deal with the fact that it seems as if we fought hard but only minorly inconvenienced the right as a whole?
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Is it true that opression/authority always breeds resistance?
Or does it just make it less likely and smothers it?
Ehat did Foucault mean by this and was he fundamentally wrong? Can someone explain this concept to a brainlet? This seems to be an observable phenomenon on a miniature scale (strict parents usually end up raising rebellious kids later) but this is of course a bullshit example and I'm not sure how it applies to larger societies. Is it in human nature to spite the status-quo?
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I see that the anti communist wave has come. Are you prepared? From Germany to Cuba it seems as if the porkies are kind of paranoid aren't they? This feels like a blizkrieg.
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Whats /leftypol/ think about him?

I often see Lukashenka's sympathizers among the Western left. Why is that?
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News 7/8/21

Communist presidential candidate in Chile receives more support
The opposition party Social Green Regionalist Federation (FRVS) is currently one of the forces that back communist candidate Daniel Jadue for the first of Chile's presidential election, scheduled for November. This decision, announced on Wednesday, was made by this party's extended council with the participation of the teams from the 16 regions of the country where the FRVS is present.

Haitian Police Shoot Down 4 Suspects and Arrest 2 Attackers
In the early hours of Wednesday morning, the assassins entered Moise's residence in Pelerin, a high-class neighborhood located on a hill in the highest part of Port-au-Prince. During the attack, the President was shot and killed and his wife was wounded. She was later flown by ambulance to Miami. Their two children, a boy and a girl, were taken to safety.

Medellin gangs have as many members as ELN in all Colombia
Despite being involved in extortion, money laundering and drug dealing, the super groups that are part of the “Oficina de Envigado” have enjoyed long-standing ties with the local elite and the Medellin Police Department.

Polish YouTuber to file claim after his detention under draconian anti-communist legislation
POLISH YouTuber Michal Nowicki was detained under draconian anti-communist legislation for promoting “totalitarian practices and methods of action” on Wednesday. Authorities swooped as he left his mother’s house to go jogging. He claimed they chose a spot between two bushes so there were no witnesses.

Government urged to reverse ‘shameful’ plans to phase out £20 universal credit ‘uplift’
Work and Pensions Secretary Therese Coffey said today that those receiving the uplift, described as a lifeline by campaigners, will start to see an adjustment to their payments from October.The government is going ahead with the cuts despite widespread opposition to ending the uplift, including from former work and pensions secretaries, among them Iain Duncan Smith, once dubbed the “architect of austerity.”

Spain’s far-right Vox party under fire for veiled Twitter threat against editor
On Tuesday, Vox’s official Twitter account published the person’s name and photograph, and accused the magazine, El Jueves, of “spreading hate against millions of Spaniards on a daily basis”. It added: “It’s possible that many of them may begin demanding that he takes responsibility for it when they see him leave his office.” The tweet referred to the city and street location of the office.

Spain passes Transgender Equality Law; protests engulf country after homophobic murder
“They are rights, not wishes. It’s the law!” read the pink, blue, and white banner of the Communist Party of Spain as its members marched with the wider Unidas Podemos (United We Can) coalition for Madrid’s Pride Parade this past Saturday.

Israel demolishes Palestinian Bedouin village for seventh time in under a year
Israeli forces demolished the Palestinian Bedouin village of Khirbet Humsah for the seventh time on Wednesday, leaving an estimated 11 families, numbering more than 70 people, homeless. At around 9am local time, dozens of Israeli military jeeps, bulldozers, police vehicles and trucks raided the hamlet, located in the northern Jordan Valley in the occupied West Bank.

Legitimacy of the CPN (Maoist Centre) challenged at the Election Commission
Advocate Saroj Budhathoki, on behalf of around two dozen former Maoist leaders who defected to the CPN-UML, registered a complaint at the commission on Wednesday, saying the party, the Maoist Centre, is illegal as it has not abided by the Constitution of Nepal and the Political Party Act, 2017.

WHO blasts wealthy nations for "abhorrent" COVID vaccine "nationalism" as global death toll passes 4 million
The world passed the "tragic milestone" of 4 million recorded COVID-19 fatalities on Wednesday, the World Health Organization said, adding that the pandemic's true toll was probably higher. WHO chief Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus announced the landmark had been reached, more than 18 months since the outbreak emerged in China in December 2019.
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Real fallout

Despite the constant wars, blatant human rights abuses and environmental devastation the human species has observed to inflict onto itself regularly since its discovery of agriculture I beg the question will their ever be a real point where humanity consumes so many of the earth's resources that their will be a war so maniacally devastating to the planet that real recovery back into a stable healthy society becomes impossible?
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[MUSK] my piss stream brings all the boers to the yard

This is the thread to bully a rich nerd

Basically a Elon musk hate thread.
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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Marxism. The theory is extremely complex, and without a solid grasp of Hegelian dialectics most of the theory will go over a typical reader's head. There's also Marx's scientific outlook, which is deftly woven into his work - his personal philosophy draws heavily from Pierre-Joseph Proudhon literature, for instance. Marxists understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of this theory, to realize that they're not just accurate- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Marxism truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the profundity in Marx's dialectical catchphrase "Gommunism is when no iPhone," which itself is a cryptic reference to Prager's American epic "Vuvuzela gulag 100 million dead" I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Karl Marx's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools… how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Marx and Engels tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.
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Nothingburger in Cuba?

The USA is trying to manufacture a happening in Cuba: https://twitter.com/TPostMillennial/status/1414328377683718148

Is this cause for concern or just a meaningless glow OP?

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Is there a happening or not?

Is it just glowie propaganda or is Cuba in trouble because I heard the counter protests were bigger but haven't had that confirmed. What info do you anons have on the situation?
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Why exactly do eastern and southern europeans lack material wealth?
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communists, why not just move to cuba?
seems much easier than trying to spark a revolution in the belly of the beast
if i had the opportunity to live in a country that fit my ideology, i'd move there in a heartbeat. in fact, i'm saving up right now to get residency in a country that most closely matches it.
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Sorry mates, but I'm gonna DESTROY Leninism.

Been reading Lenning and feeling really polemic. He is outdated and he is wrong, and history proved him wrong. It seems like his mind is stuck in this vanguard party paradigm and just can't get out, especially clearly seen in his anti-bureaucratic articles - he sees the problem and he just doesn't know what to do, he wants to fight fire with fire, bureaucracy with bureaucracy. His conscious and unconscious revolutionary elitism just can't fathom any other way out. In one of his latest articles "Better fewer, but better" I see a deluded old man with no answers.

Reading Lening really got under my skin, it really did. That's why I'm thinking of writing a kinda shorty-sh article/pamphlet arguing with Lenin titled something like "What is to be done after Lenin?"

The framework of my arguments would be something like this:
<There could be no socialism without direct democracy
<Therefore struggle for socialism should be a struggle for direct democracy
<Therefore Leninism is a dead end as it is inherently aristocratic
<Therefore the basic unit of socialist movement couldn't be a Leninist party, or any other political party for that matter, because political parties aren't compatible with direct democracy by their very organizational structure with professional politicians
<The question is then, what type of organization is the most compatible with direct democracy?
<My answer - trade union, because it has a common member base and a potential for combined economic and political power
<The biggest problem with unions is their entrenched collaborationist labor aristocratic bureaucracy
<Direct democracy mechanism means labor aristocracy and entrenched bureaucracy loses power
<Union potentially has economic power to force employer to let some of its members chosen by lot go on a paid vacation for a duration of their service in a union government, ie a year for example
<The result of implementing direct democracy in a particular union is a radicalization of said union
<Radicalization would lead to escalation by the logic of class struggle
<As this Union gets more confident in their own self-government, there is a potential for an emergence of political consciousness and so of political aspirations
<It should also become evident to its members that to this new type of Union any other type of Union with aristocratic government structure is inherently antagonistic
<So it would be natural for this new type of Union to agitate rank-and-file members of all these other unions in a United Front of whatever to overthrow their aristocratic governments and remade themselves "in the image" of this new type of Union, so that two Unions could finally speak eye-to-eye without any aristocratic middlemen
<More radicalization and escalation
<From this it could go anywhere, this new type of Union could as well be the basic unit of a new socialist government soviet-style in case economy and capitalist state shits itself, and the basic tactic of spreading its own direct democratic organizational structure is I think a really powerful weapon, it's like a virus killing capitalist support base, ie aristocracy, in any organization it penetrates
<Obviously in case this system of Unions actually becomes de facto the state a-la soviets, the question of nationalization becomes not so controversial anymore because people *are* the state, who would say no to nationalizing all infrastructure, banks, google, youtube, facebook, etc then?
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We need a debunk thread on here
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/leftybritpol/ - Coming Home Edition

After a 4-0 thrashing of Ukraine, England marches forward to a semi-finals clash with Denmark. Could it be happening lads? There's magic in the air.
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A paradox

In the wake of rapid accelerationism the planet is facing technological progress reversing… although that might be weird to state it's true, years of overproduction and commodification of several goods and services all around the planet as a result of the systems of exploitation under capitalism combined with the powerhouse of the machines formed during the industrial revolution has made a situation where theres simply too much stuff… and hence forth the need to innovate has diminished as it becomes unprofitable for investment yet at the same time global birthrates remain on the consistent decline due to the extreme cost of living for billions around the planet. Weird a situation where theres no need to improve because everyone has everything they could possibly want yet nobody can afford anything because all the things people need are to expensive despite being worth nothing if they were tied to supply and demand economic theory…
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I dont no why hispanics and negros dont like south america

South america is actually quite nice, most of the land and resources(especially in brazil and mexico) is unused and hence pretty much any individual is free to set up whatever they want for surprisingly little weather that be a store, farm, factory, mine, whatever or just go out hunting and living independently. most south americans I've met are pretty fine people admittedly flawed especially in the department of creative thinking but fine, I didnt find myself concerned about scammers or drug cartels in the years I was in mexico jamaica and brazil being that 1 they're statistically likely to kill each other and 2 I already have lived in west america surrounded by hispanics already meaning most of the issues present in Latin america weren't too different from my personal experiences.
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This was actually one of the more interesting interviews I've seen of Wolff, and it is hidden by Zero Books. Don't know why.