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Youtube is relentlessly attacking all proxies, from yt-dlp to invidious to materialious

Google/Chrome/Chromium is attacking adblocking infrastructure via base software design

This thread is for tracking this development and the hacked solutions produced by the resistance
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FUCK YOUTUBE
FUCK YOUTUBE
FUCK YOUTUBE
FUCK YOUTUBE

>Fijxu: "YouTube has killed Invidious with its new update."
>also Fijxu: *patches Invidious in 1 day*
WHAT AN ABSOLUTE LEGEND.

might be joever this time for real. trying to download vids with yt-dlp instantly gives a 403 error. the devs say they can't do anything about it because they can't change how youtube run their platform. you gotta refresh all invidious instances a million times before a youtube page loads (i mainly used invidious to read youtube comments). will i have to finally bite the bullet and make a throaway youtube account?

>>28215
Yes I think the days of yt-dlp are joeever, they're seemingly treating all the accounts as bots. What I do these days is I just turn OBS on and let the video run, and go do dishes or laundry or something. It like what boomers did with VCRs and recording shows. It's a slow practice, but it works.

yt-dlp works for me on latest nightly



/leftypol/

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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
>'We were the real Nazis all along' edition

Thread for the hellish discussion related to the greatest, best country God has ever given man on the face of the Earth™

🏈 💵 🌭 🍔

📺State Mandated Propaganda Livestreams📺
• CNN: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/cnn-news-usa.html
• MSNBC: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/msnbc.html
• FOX: https://www.livenewsnow.com/american/fox-news-channel.html
• Bloomberg: https://www.bloomberg.com/live/us

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>>2121285
Homestuck was good for like a year, its perfectly fine to shit on it now

>>2121291
>i will never use this bathroom again because a person I hate bought the building it's in
libtard logic

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>>2121361
Using a bathroom costs the building owner money
Linking to Twitter indirectly gives its owner money

>>2121363
Good job comrade



/leftypol/

 

>The crypto industry eagerly awaited Donald Trump’s return to the White House. Now, it’s reeling after the president and first lady launched a pair of meme coins.
>Dubbed $TRUMP and $MELANIA, the tokens have no economic purpose—their value is largely based on the popularity of internet memes. The market cap of the president’s coin has soared to $7.8 billion since Friday night’s launch, while the first lady’s token is worth about $800 million, according to CoinMarketCap.
>By selling coins known for their speculative nature and extreme volatility, the president has undermined the credibility that the industry has worked hard to build in recent years, some crypto executives and investors say.
>They also point to the brazen conflict of interest: Trump benefits directly from the sale of the tokens while setting the policy that affects how markets are valued and regulated.
>Meme coins are still the wild west of crypto, operating largely without regulation.
>Ryan Selkis, the former chief executive of crypto research firm Messari and a vocal supporter of Trump, urged the president to fire the adviser who recommended going forward with the launch of the second coin.
>“1. They don’t know what they’re doing. 2. They cost you a lot of $ and goodwill. 3. They don’t have your interests in mind,” said Selkis in a social-media post shortly after the $MELANIA token launch.
>The $TRUMP token lost almost half its value after first lady Melania Trump’s coin was unveiled. Traders say demand for the tokens overlapped—$TRUMP token holders had to unload some of their holdings to buy her meme coin. Prices have since regained some ground, but the market value of the $TRUMP coin peaked Sunday at almost $15 billion.
>Some crypto enthusiasts questioned if the coins were a scam and if Trump’s accounts had been hacked. The mechanisms on the token reminded some of a rug pull, crypto parlance for a project that is launched and quickly abandoned, leaving investors with steep losses.
>One point of criticism: 80% of the $TRUMP token’s supply is owned by Fight Fight Fight and CIC Digital, an affiliate of the Trump Organization, according to the website associated wiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2120832
>Say what you will about past genrations of porkies, at least they sold stuff that was real
Marx/Engels talk about fictitious capital in volume iii

>>2120832
>crypto credibility
which?

r/cryptocurrency is in shambles at how the president of the USA doing a rugpull us making crypto look bad like no ones ever pulled a shitcoin scam before



/edu/

 

Everytime you visit /edu/, post in this thread. Tell us about what you're thinking about, what you're reading, an interesting thing you have learned today, anything! Just be sure to pop in and say hi.

Previous thread >>>/leftypol_archive/580500
Archive of previous thread
https://archive.is/saN3S

Excuse me coming through
A quick note on the video @ >>>/leftypol/1538283
Also [vid related] for archival purposes

Around the 29 minute mark Peterson criticizes Marx and Engel's for assuming that workers would magically become more productive once they took over.

This actually happened historically, most of the actually effective productivity tricks work places use now were developed by Stakhanovites.

https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1936-2/year-of-the-stakhanovite/year-of-the-stakhanovite-texts/stalin-at-the-conference-of-stakhanovites/
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Finished News from Nowhere by William Morris, a supposed classic of utopian literature. I went into this with expectations adjusted to the genre, meaning little tension and lots of lecturing, but this one is exceptionally dull. So the guy visits the world more than a century into the future (starting from 1890) and travels by horse carriage. Technology regressed, so no trains for you, and it's anarcho-communism time.

Mildly funny bit when some character talks about the people of the former ruling class here:
<But my father used to know some of them when they were young; and he said that they were as little like young women as might be: they had hands like bunches of skewers, and wretched little arms like sticks; and waists like hourglasses, and thin lips and peaked noses and pale cheeks; and they were always pretending to be offended at anything you said or did to them. No wonder they bore ugly children, for no one except men like them could be in love with them—poor things!

The rest is so dull. So. Fucking. Dull. Oh and in Super Morris World murderers are neither killed nor jailed nor dropped on an island. And the author is not taking the piss here, but actually thinks the murderers will feel sad about what they did and that's good enough for him!



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Remember: It's a big club and you ain't in it.

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine
https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
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>>2121233
I can appreciate all that and still recognize russia is waging a petty imperialist war(USER WAS ALREADY BANNED, SAGE AND REPORT)

>petty imperialist



>>2121343
>>2121346
anti-campist sisters, I don't feel so good



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Is free trade actually good or not? And I'm not talking about just quoting Marx but an actual analysis of its effects?

Obviously some international trade must occur because most countries don't have every resource they need.

However unlimited no barrier free trade is criticized as being exploitative to the third world, and in the first world used as a way to undercut unions and the organized working class?
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>>2121159
Did I write “Capitalism” or “Capital”
Read my words very carefully

Free trade is good because it advances the capitalist dialectic, i.e. it's historically progressive. And we all know history moves in a straight line, just at different speeds sometimes. That is definitely not a colonialist false narrative that Marx unfortunately swallowed whole due to criticism on the topic not being sufficiently advanced during his lifetime. It's actually based and in the interests of the working class to help capitalism increase its power and level of development. The last thing we communists should do is hobble the development of capitalism so as to weaken it and make it easier to overthrow. We should instead trust the plan that it will inevitably destroy itself and that the haute-bourgeois will lack the wherewithal to change the mode of production in any way that might prolong or avert its doom.

>>2120926
/thread

>>2121203
i love u spurdo

>>2121162
not every response is an argument. sometimes people are adding to what you said.



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Seeing how there’s multiple /co/ related threads on the board. I think we should just put all of them into one general just for clarity’s sake.

Discuss anything related to comics and animations from comic recs, leftist animations to comic writers’ attempts to larp as leftists.

Seriously is there a worse anarchist in the UK than Alan Moore?
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>>44661
readcomicsonline dot li
or to download them getcomics org

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Allen Moore wrote that comics were once a artform for the people because they where readably available and cheap, now they're so expensive the only people who care are the ones who grew up with them and are now mad that they're no longer made for them. A artform for the working people would need to be affordable for them. Comics are not dead but the audience has become bourgeois while the young working people finds the new artform with more artistic freedom then the last.

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This screencap is fucking hilarious.

>>44986
as a sandman enjoyer, gaiman of all people being a dick is a fucking shame

>>44986
Didn't this guy get revealed to be an abuser or something?



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Well, I never read Capital by Marx, I read couple of more short works of his, but still something is bothering me, Marx wrote in the XIX century, so his work are maybe outdated from my point of view, I think, but I'm open minded, does anyone here actually read Capital can tell me if still worth reading Capital or is relevant to the modern economics theories?
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>>2121287
>but is a universal equivalent (a particular commodity)
no, labor is the universal equivalent, money is the social representation of it
> It is because all commodities, as values, are realised human labour, and therefore commensurable
>money to marx is not a token. at least admit this.
money, in the time marx was writing, was not a token, there is a difference between saying x is y as a social convention, and saying x is essentially and eternally fixed as y 1:1, which is undialectical, you are treating money ahistorically, as a thing instead of a social relation, fetishizing it
> i agree to those terms, but it is the very opposite of what marx writes,
it is precisely what marx writes
>you literally cant read ONE chapter of a book
maybe you need to read more than one book
>or do you not know what the value form is
and you are completely ignorant of the controversy surrounding your opinion. maybe if you want to bludgeon people with your academics you should understand what school of thought you subscribe to first

>>2121287
>a "token" unless it directly represents a commodity cannot represent value
This can easily be solved by realizing that the dollar is used because of trust and coercion, so it is backed by the GDP of the US economy and its military, which yes changes at a faster rate then gold supply. If you want to know how much SNLT that is you can start counting tanks and planes. Again, the point of all this isn't to say money is this and labor is that and value is this and so on its to say that labor is the limit of production, which abandoning the gold value does not change. The particulars are not going to debunk the overarching theory because it is correct. A polynomial trending positive isn't going to suddenly flip because you introduce a new constant.

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>Since the mid-1960s and after the collapse of state socialism and Marxism-Leninism in the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe, there has emerged a new critical literature by Western Marxist and non-Marxist scholars about the conceptual foundations of Marx’s theory of value[3]

>The criticism most often heard from the critics of Marx, such as Friedrich von Hayek, Karl Popper, Francis Wheen and Ian Steedman is that, even if Marx himself meant well, Marx's value-form idea is simply an esoteric obscurantism, "dialectical hocus pocus", "sophistry", or "mumbo jumbo". Francis Wheen refers to "a shaggy-dog story, a picaresque journey through the realms of higher nonsense."[8]


>The old Marxist theory was held together by the philosophy of dialectical materialism,[34] but in the new academic Marxism of the West, "value theory" is said to be the unifying factor.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_value-form_theory

yes ill take "solving problems that dont exist" for 500

>>2121309
>>2121309
>in exchange. hes talking about the mechanism for how markets work in determining value under 1800s capitalism, not how things should be or how they essentially must be. he does not say "can" he says they do
no, no, no.
this is where you are confused. value (or exchange value) to marx is inherently market-oriented. thats why commodities incur equivalent values by exchange. his point is precisely contrary to bourgeois economy, that value isnt a natural category, but is a social category, for example,
>"As use values, commodities are, above all, of different qualities, but as exchange values they are merely different quantities, and consequently do not contain an atom of use value."
and
>"The value of commodities is the very opposite of the coarse materiality of their substance, not an atom of matter enters into its composition."
and as he concludes chapter 1,
>"So far no chemist has ever discovered exchange value either in a pearl or a diamond"
and as he states in chapter 19,
>"That which comes directly face to face with the possessor of money on the market, is in fact not labour, but the labourer. What the latter sells is his labour-power. As soon as his labour actually begins, it has already ceased to belong to him; it can therefore no longer be sold by him. Labour is the substance, and the immanent measure of value, but has itself no value."
thus the "coarse materiality" or "embodied labour" of a commodity is the opposite of its value. this is why labour power is "human labour in the abstract" and exists as a pure quantity, apart from use. value to marx thus is an essentially market phenomenon. what exists in the absence of markets is valueless, yet useful labour, as he writes in chapter 1,
>"A thing can be a use value, without having value. […] A thing can be useful, and the product of human labour, without being a commodity. Whoever directly satisfies his wants with the produce of his own labour, creates, indeed, use values, but not commodities."
labour =/= value
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>>2121311
i am very inspired by marx, so i only bash him to exorcise myself mostly lol. i dont want to throw the baby out with the bath water, but i do see that the water is quite dirty.
>>2121318
>no, labor is the universal equivalent, money is the social representation of it
no, to marx, a universal equivalent is the particular commodity itself. yes, value is self-related by this equivalence, but its abstract essence must still have a concrete form.
>money, in the time marx was writing, was not a token
yes, which is why he incorrectly formalises his own contemporary relations as a fact of things in themselves
>there is a difference between saying x is y as a social convention, and saying x is essentially and eternally fixed
yes, i take the former, marx takes the latter
this is what marx writes in response to locke's assertions that silver possesses an "imaginary value"
>"But if it be declared that the social characters assumed by objects, or the material forms assumed by the social qualities of labour under the régime of a definite mode of production, are mere symbols, it is in the same breath also declared that these characteristics are arbitrary fictions sanctioned by the so-called universal consent of mankind."
his point is that precious metals have universal value, for as he concludes chapter 2,
>"These objects, gold and silver, just as they come out of the bowels of the earth, are forthwith the direct incarnation of all human labour. Hence the magic of money."
he is speaking entirely sincerely here.
lets just refresh ourselves very quickly with these remarks,
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https://www.idcommunism.com/2025/01/the-crisis-of-soviet-history-of-stalin-period-and-what-we-should-do-about-it.html

Speech by Grover Furr

The history of the first workers’ state, the USSR, during its heroic period, when it was led by Joseph Stalin – that history is withheld from us. It is smothered by lies from dishonest and very influential sources.

How do we know this is so? What is the situation? Who are the liars? Why is this important? Finally, what should we do about it? The future of the world’s working class and the fight for an egalitarian world of what Marxist researcher Charles Andrews has called “No Rich, No Poor,” depends on what we do.

I began to discuss this question in an earlier article titled “Marxists Behaving Badly” which you can download from my Home Page. However, that was a very partial discussion of this enormous challenge to all of us. In my talk today I intend to confront this crisis more directly.

The Anti-Stalin Paradigm (ASP)

What I call the ASP is a special case of the anticommunist paradigm of history (ACP). In its basic formulation, the ACP frames the history of the last century upside down. The Western, imperialist countries are, supposedly, “democratic,” “free,” stand for “human rights.” The former socialist bloc countries, especially the Stalin-era Soviet Union, were “dictatorships,” “totalitarian,” “unfree,” “against human rights.” In reality, the opposite is the case.

According to the ASP Stalin was a bloodthirsty dictator who killed millions of Soviet citizens, engineered frameups against many communists, and committed innumerable “crimes.” This is all false. This paradigm is strictly enforced in the academic field of Soviet history and through it into the intellectual and semi-popular media, and then into the popular mass media. According to the ASP, it is considered illegitimate— outside the limits of respectable discussion – to disprove any crime of which Stalin has been accused.
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>>2119952
>crimes
spooked

>>2120838
He was a guy, not a god. Take your great man theory somewhere else.

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A funny thing about Grover Furr is that he believes the NKVD did shoot hundreds of thousands of innocent people, but Stalin wasn't responsible because his chosen head of the NKVD *~duped~* him while working for German intelligence.

>The newly-available evidence confirms that Nikolai Ezhov, head of the NKVD from 1936 to late 1938, was also conspiring with the Germans. Like the Rights and Trotskyites Ezhov and his top NKVD men were counting on an invasion by Germany, Japan, or other major capitalist country. They tortured a great many innocent people into confessing to capital crimes so they would be shot. They executed a great many more on falsified grounds or no grounds at all.


>Ezhov hoped that this mass murder of innocent people would turn large parts of the Soviet population against the government. That would create the basis for internal rebellions against the Soviet government when Germany or Japan attacked.


>Ezhov lied to Stalin, the Party and government leaders about all this. The truly horrific mass executions of 1937-1938 of almost 680,000 people were in large part unjustifiable executions of innocent people carried out deliberately by Ezhov and his top men in order to sow discontent among the Soviet population.

https://msuweb.montclair.edu/~furrg/georgiantimesinterv0910.html

>>2120883
ok where's the funny part

>>2120883
and then he replaced him with beria of all people

maybe he shouldn't have surrounded himself with opportunistic thugs



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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together with the Leftypol Twitter account:
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

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>>2121281
>going to jail over this


>>2121323
>one retard leaves
>"WHOLE CLUB DISSOOOOOLVED"
Infrafags have a tendency to make overly exaggerated claims and lie. Like here >>2119698

Dasha is ultraconservative

>>2121345
Also >>2121040

>>2121323
>We had an issue with one guy who just tried running for a local electoral office without even consulting the party, declared himself a PatSoc, and then left/was forced out after he got criticized when his run ended in a failure.
Ah, I remember that guy from his meltdowns online. I don't think he joined ACP though, and actually I don't know what happened to him.

Oh hey, read an article last night by Hobsbawm called "Revolution and Sex," written during the sexual revolution and what the relationship was to libertinism and social and political revolution. Hobsbawm's answer was "not much," and wrote about the puritanical streak of communists (and Trotskyites, in fact), and also early 20th century anarchists. He didn't explore why this was, just that a libertine approach to these things (and also taking drugs) takes up a lot of time, which revolutionaries don't usually have in the midst of strife and civil wars. It also just gets in the way of organization and efficiency, although he didn't subscribe to the idea that it's because "the workers are puritanical and we have to appeal to the workers so therefore…" which is something communists like to say, but it's hard to say whether that's actually true.

The Infracels/American Cult Party talk up that attitude, but the stories getting out are, like, there was a party where guys were getting blackout drunk, the few women in it are getting approached by incel mouthbreathers, and Hinkle is trying to create an Instagram persona like he's a Rich Girl of Russia while shilling Andrew Tate (which was the breaking point for one of the women in the group who seemed to actually believe in puritanical, self-sacrificing stuff).

Anyways, Hobsbawm believed that changes in personal affairs like sex are more of a consequence of social revolution. The liberation of women, for example. The rule of men over women, and exploitation of women, tends to carry restrictions on what women can do.



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Sites that have active live-blogs:
• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)

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It looks like a bunch of the Palestinian prisoners that were released in the ceasefire deal are are affiliated with Fatah, PFLP etc. So in the off chance that the Zios are right that Hamas isn't going to recover could we end up seeing a resurgence in the more left wing/secular elements of the Palestinian resistance?

>>2120810
Iraqi Kurds are allied with Turkey.

>>2120719
>Iraqi Kurds
You are aware that not only are these Kurds in opposition to the PKK/ Rojava but also actively collaborate with Turkey, right?

>>2119298
It can only properly rebuild once Israel- as we know it, ceases to exist.
Unless there's a one state-solution, or a genuine anti-zionist overthrow of the settler colony which by some miracle "reforms" Israel, the Zionist entity will continue to violate ceasefire agreements (which they have historically done), and take time to lick its wounds before attacking Palestenians all over again.

As for how things currently are, it will likely take over a decade.

>>2120979
>in the off chance that the Zios are right that Hamas isn't going to recover
they aren't even that "degraded" or whatever they where wiping out idf left and right till the last moment of the ceasefire



/latam/

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Edição Alunya chega ao Brasilsilsil!!! (+natal/ano novo talvez)

O lugar mais web-revolucionário para discutir as idas e vindas de nossa amada pindorama que irá revoluciona em aproximadamente xxxxx

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>>3633
>>3635
>Ou o capitalismo destrói o mundo ou ele é superado. Eu sou otimista, acredito que conseguimos nos organizar.

Tenho a mesma opinião do camarada. Devemos nos organizar contra a burguesia principalmente porque não podemos dar a ela a possibilidade de parar a vida inteligente e a vida como conhecemos no único planeta que temos a certeza de ter vida em todo o universo. Essa é a maior contribuição que a nossa classe pode dar para que podemos continuar a existir por tempo indefinido, não há nenhuma ação mais importante que esta, é necessário sairmos um pouco da vida a qual estamos submersos para enxergar e meditar sobre a profundidade e a importância de tirar da burguesia o destino deste mundo e do gênero humano.

Se um dia quisermos entender e explorar o universo que nos rodeia, é preciso antes resolver os problemas que ainda existem em nosso mundo. Em qualquer fotografia do espaço podemos reparar o quão minúsculo nossa Terra é, como seria fácil perdem de vista nosso planeta sem ter saído do sistema solar, mas é justamente nesse pequeno ponto que viveram e morreram todas as pessoas, é neste ponto onde todas as ideias foram pensadas e desenvolvidas. Ninguém sentirá a nossa falta, porque sem a vida nada mais no universo terá a possibilidade de fazer sentido, não terá ninguém para admirar sua beleza e seus mistérios.

As vezes gosto de refletir como a terra é pequena frente a vastidão do espaço. Ao contrário de reduzir nossa importância, na verdade eleva a urgência histórica das contradições de nosso tempo.

assinei um streaming pirata com debrid, só 50 reais por ano 0_0
pensando em trocar o plano de TV por um gatonet também pau no cu da anatel

>>3652
Se mata

>>3648
>>3640
Acho que ainda é cedo bater o martelo. Não duvido até 2026 a Simone Tebet deixar o MDB só para disputar pelo PT.



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Get The Pensioner's Starved Edition

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/01/06/gwhf-j06.html

UK Labour government refuses to pay pension compensation to millions of women

< […] Starmer said, “The taxpayer simply cannot afford the tens of billions of pounds in compensation when the evidence does show that 90 percent of those impacted did know about it [changes to pensions]. That is because of the state of our economy.”
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>>2120048
<That threat of course remains. But now, alongside that we also see acts of extreme violence perpetrated by loners, misfits, young men in their bedroom, accessing all manner of material online, desperate for notoriety.

Why does society always blame young men exclusively for domestic terrorism? Let's forget about the boomer age males whom are more common in radical conservative terrorist groups.

Also those "loner/misfit turned criminal" is an outlier
The media hype it up to be bigger than it is

>>2115730
It's also that we have people like >>2112676 who think leftism is supposed to be rebellion for the sake of it.
They assume that class consciousness is supposed to be exactly like action adventure movies

Inside the mind of Elon Musk: Twitter's former VP speaks to LBC

>>2120533
a lot of isis recruits were second generation college educated doctors

>>2121302
Yet who invented those kind of institutions?



/leftypol/

 

The early Soviet Union under Lenin had one of the best avant-garde art movements in Europe, then comes Stalin and does away with it in favor of "socialist realism" which was nothing more than traditional art with a proletarian theme. It reached a point where the CIA started financing artists like Jackson Pollock to show the US had greater artistic freedom than the USSR.
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> The early Soviet Union under Lenin had one of the best avant-garde art movements in Europe, then comes Stalin and does away with it in favor of "socialist realism"
No what happened is that Stalin shot the artists or they killed themselves so they wouldn't be shot.

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>The appeal to freedom as a value above all others is what is degenerate to me

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>>2104044
Soral AYAAOOOOOOO

>>2118650
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING CORRECT
I HATE FREEDOM
FUCK FREEDOM
<I don't want to live under communism
<I WANT YOU TO LIVER UNDER COMMUNISM

>>2118563
introducing the whitoid racist KKKRAKKKA concept of "ethnicity" to central asia was a massive L tbh

but they did eliminate other forms of backwards barbarism such as bridal kidnappings. in the urbanized areas at least

so overall it was an improvement, but a massive missed opportunity tbh



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How old were you when you realized that politics is as boring as you remembered it to be as a kid, and that all practical politics inevitably devolve into reading and discussing everyday legal disputes and weird crimes? For me, it was eighteen.
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>>2121246
Alcohol is for people who wanna act retarded without any self-consciousness.

>>2121263
Damn, we're calling Marx retarded now.

>>2120607
Tf

Mods changed the name of this thread

depends on whether by politics you mean bourgeois pageantry and electoralism and obfuscation of the relatians of production (which are all very stupid and boring to me), or whether you mean the real movement to abolish the present state of things.

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/leftypol/

 

Have you read the book Is The Red Flag Flying? The Political Economy of the Soviet Union Today by Albert Szymanski? The most commonly recurring debate on here is whether X country can be classified as socialist or not. This book is about post-Stalin USSR in particular but you could apply similar analysis to modern day China. Thoughts?
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>>2120279
>you're a lot more likely to find democratic consensus among 50k people all living in the same area than you are 10 million scattered all over the place
for a local issue about infrastructure sure, for anything more directly political not really

>people living in a town generally know their own wants and needs better than a national politician trying to figure things out in the abstract

again that suppose everything has only direct local consequences or that those local effect should have priority over the global ones, which is not true for many issues. Anything about relations with exterior, defense, trade, wealth transfer/development between regions, global infrastructure, norms, industry planning is simply handled better at a bigger scale.

>a handful of crappy politicians in key positions can tank the entire system (which is, more or less, what happened to the Soviet Union)

the "local" nationalists leader of various republics were the ones that pushed hard for destroying ussr. Belarus for example kept the most of the soviet system because they were less nationalist and more interested in keeping socialism.

>If a single municipality has bad leadership, shit sucks for then, but the rest if the nation is fine.

as I said, in my experience, local leadership is even worse than national one. And if you have enough "bad local leadership" with enough autonomy, you can sink the whole thing, while centralization allow cracking down on them.

There are issues that are fine to be decentralized, but really considering "decentralization" being intrinsically good is wrong.

>>2120279
The point isn't to decentralize, it's to adjust the political system to logically fit the level we deal with, which is global supply chains and effects, with democratic rule. Bottom up isn't the same as decentralised, and centralised isn't the same as top down, no matter how much anarchists claim it's so. Common problems requiring common solutions require central decision making.

>>2120279
>I could write an entire book detailing how local politics are superior to national politics, and at some point I probably actually will, but off the top of my head, you're a lot more likely to find democratic consensus among 50k people all living in the same area than you are 10 million scattered all over the place, and the people living in a town generally know their own wants and needs better than a national politician trying to figure things out in the abstract.
This is just objectively untrue and if you actually spend time involving yourself in local municipal politics you know local politics is a fucking shitshow of unqualified people thinking up retarded solutions steered by self serving cunts.
For example, the local party here has a majority in the council. Nobody knows their political aims, it's just pr, then they go ahead and decide to not spend any time maintaining sewage for the next decade to "save tax payers money".

Meanwhile, it's national politics that made it so China's industrialisation and urbanisation wasn't a total cluster fuck, why they build whole cities in advance, why the roads make sense, why every Chinese city has a modern good subway system because there's a fucking sears catalogue for subway items such as tunnels, trains, materials, etc, and a strict regulation mandating they be build after some population threshold.

But keep living in your fantasy land in which your dream society is just NIMBY on steroids, where groups living in better areas will tell people in trouble to go ahead and die rather than fix their collective issue. You know which country is very decentralised? The USA. And which is very centralised? China. Which one had better cities? Which one is tackling climate change? Which one is more livable? Which one has economic prosperity for the common people?

Your anarchist fantasy is just anti social personality turned into a political ideology, as shown by how every anarchist org just immediately devolves into a pedophile safe haven.

>>2120279
>I could write an entire book detailing how local politics are superior to national politics
I know a guy who ran for every election to local office in the town where I used to live. City council, mayor, federal and provincial parliament, etc. He was a Christian fanatic who thought that all queer people should be executed, and he campaigned by recording a 6h long video of himself reading from the Bible and putting DVDs of this under people's windshield wipers. Obviously everybody thought he was nuts and he never won, but the point is that the barrier for entry of cranks into local politics is a lot lower. That's just a colourful example, but there's also the bigger problem of particular local interests carving out nigh unassailable fiefdoms. This would probably be reduced in a socialist context (since nowadays it's usually the upper crust of the local petty bourgeoisie who do this), but there would no doubt still remain the problem of big fishes in the small pond. Local politics comes with its own list of issues, from local cranks being able to shit up every forum with their insanity to petty tyrants cowing all other interests. What I wouldn't give for the federal government to come and tell property developers and local NIMBYs to fuck off so we can get high speed rail or cheap high density housing or some shit.

>>2120442
>>2120453
>>2120466
>>2120496
I want to make it clear that I'm not an anarchist. Centralized power has its place. I just think that decision making should happen at the smallest scale that's viable for dealing that particular kind of issue. I agree that, for example, that something like nation-wide infrastructure should be handled nationally. But if something does not meaningfully affect areas outside of a given municipality, it absolutely should be handled locally.



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It’s not Ukraine that will be at fault for its demise, but it will be the west in general. Ukraine is doing anything it can to stay alive. However, watching the absolute dumpster fire of infantilism and populism that is politics near the North Atlantic was a sobering experience. There’s no way you can tell me that Ukraine stands a chance when their biggest arms manufacturer currently has a fascist man child that larps as his son getting other infantilized billionaires into politics. European politics in general is a licentious clusterfuck of contrarianism and populist garbage that is somehow more obnoxious than what I’ve seen in South America.

You’re having people using fucking TikTok video edits as actual campaign material, blatant nazi propaganda plastered in ads just to rile people up, fallacies and bad intent everywhere in public discussions, and the intentional use of bots and algorithms in online discussions. How the fuck is anyone supposed to take the North Atlantic countries seriously? How the hell can Ukrainians expect those countries to do anything to save them.

These days, fucking nazis of all people cannot blame Jews anymore for Europe's failures.
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>>2121224
insane clown posse?

>>2121224
Damn, we are stuck with you then :/.


>>2121119
>not a thing
Don't be ridiculous, of course there are Russian Nazis. It's just that they're fighting for Ukraine.

>>2121211
>Bro, they’re fighting a war for their survival.
If that were true they would have taken the Istanbul deal.



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A general thread dedicated to political economy. Discuss political economy and related concepts, including geopolitical economy. Will be posting links in a subsequent post since thread openers now have an upper limit for text that is lower than replies (some kind of bug reported in /meta/ already).
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>>2115363
Daily reminder Milton Friedman was debunked on endogenous/exogenous money by Nicholas Kaldor
>The great revival of "monetarism" in the 1970s, culminating in the adoption of the strict prescriptions of the monetarist creed by a number of Western governments at the turn of the decade- particularly by President Reagan's administration in the United States and Mrs. Thatcher's in Great Britain- will, I am sure, go down as one of the most curious episodes in history, comparable only to the periodic outbreaks of mass hysteria (such as the witch hunts) of the Middle Ages. Indeed, I know of no other instance where an utterly false doctrine concerning the causation of economic events had such a sweeping success in a matter of a few years without any attempt to place it in the framework of accepted theory concerning the manner of operation of economic forces in a market economy

>>2115363
watched the whole thing
>Friedman vs. Keynes
ah so framing it as giga-reactoid bourgeois vs "left" bourgeois theory
>1 time cash injection
doesn't fix the root problem
>muh inflation
not a problem if you have a planned economy and no commodity form
>muh small businesses
>muh demand
>muh barbers
555 come on now

>>2115363
It is for the best to debunk reactionary ideas from a proletarian Marxist perspective and not a bourgeois Keynesian perspective so people can be clear on what the correct solutions are.

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>>2116166
pic goes hard. I noticed that whenever people admit poverty is bad from a bourgeois perspective they're usually pushing Keynesianism. I see the West moving back to a dirigisme/Keynesian/neo-Mercantilist type model now that China's rise has them butthurt and they're backpedaling on free trade.




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Time to stop venerating the regime and start listening to the music


>>2119953
>Reports pro-zionist shit on RedNote is also getting zapped now
Sounds too good to be true. Source?

>>2121029
Moffin', substantially true.

Hukou entitled you and your family to the receipt of social services in a particular city. It's a relic of the Mao era, but it persists because social services cost money, and not all cities have money.

However, I'll point out that hukou reform (read: immigration reform) has been a major issue in China for years, and in 2022, MPS issued a directive telling smaller cities to broaden up their hukou provision.

https://www.lowyinstitute.org/the-interpreter/china-finally-getting-serious-about-hukou-reform




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Billionaire wealth surges to ‘unimaginable’ levels in 2024 as Oxfam predicts emergence of five trillionaires within a decade
The combined wealth of the world’s most wealthy rose from $13 trillion to $15 trillion in just 12 months, the global charity said Sunday. It marks the second largest annual increase in billionaire wealth since Oxfam records started. Meanwhile, the number of people living in poverty has barely changed since 1990, the charity said, citing World Bank Data. The richest 1% of people own nearly 45% of all wealth, while 44% of humanity are living below the World Bank poverty line of $6.85 per day, the data showed.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/20/oxfam-inequality-report-billionaire-wealth-surges-by-2-trillion.html

Economic grievances fuel support for hostile actions, Edelman global survey shows
Four in 10 respondents approved of hostile acts to bring about change, including violence or threats, online attacks, intentionally spreading disinformation and damaging property, the survey showed. Among respondents aged 18 to 34, support for hostile actions was even higher at 53%.
https://www.reuters.com/world/economic-grievances-fuel-support-hostile-actions-edelman-global-survey-shows-2025-01-19/

Amid Sri Lanka’s austerity drive, Rajapaksa brothers must vacate deluxe government mansions
The government has decided to convert the stately homes into upmarket boutique hotels or museums, Information Minister Nalinda Jayatissa told reporters in Colombo. He said the state would pay former leaders rent totalling US$107 a month, as they are entitled to under a 1986 law, instead of providing government housing.
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/south-asia/article/3295697/amid-sri-lankas-austerity-drive-rajapaksa-brothers-must-vacate-deluxe-government-mansions

Trump to pull nearly 1,660 Afghan refugees from fliPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2120912
Canceled Marijuana Rescheduling Hearings Would Have Shut Out People Impacted By Criminalization (Op-Ed)
“Nobody representing those most harmed by marijuana arrests and over-incarceration was designated to participate.”
Tuesday was supposed to be the start of the much anticipated Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) hearing on potentially rescheduling marijuana under federal law. But now, months after the announcement that cannabis might soon be moved from Schedule I to Schedule III of the Controlled Substances Act (CSA), the hearing has been indefinitely canceled.
This whole debacle represents yet another example of how federal policies continue to ignore the will of the people when it comes to marijuana.
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/canceled-marijuana-rescheduling-hearings-would-have-shut-out-people-impacted-by-criminalization-op-ed/

Trump Rescinds Biden Order Aimed at Lowering Prescription Drug Prices
As part of a flurry of executive actions on the first day of his second White House term, President Donald Trump on Monday rescinded an order signed by his predecessor that aimed to develop programs to lower prescription drug prices in the United States—where residents pay far more for medications than people in peer countries.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-drug-prices

Rubio vows to put State Dept at core of Trump foreign policymaking
Rubio, 53, a China hawk and staunch backer of Israel, was the first of Trump's cabinet nominees to be sworn into office on Tuesday, and pledged to carry out Trump's foreign policy of "furthering the national interest of this country."
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/marco-rubio-becomes-secretary-state-emphasizes-america-first-agenda-2025-01-21/

Trump’s UN ambassador pick says Israel has ‘biblical right’ to West Bank
If confirmed as ambassador, Stefanik explained she would audit US funding for the UN and its constellation of agencies. She would also seek to counter China’s influence at the international organisation and bolster Washington’s staunch support for Israel.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/21/trumps-un-ambassador-pick-says-israel-has-biblical-right-to-west-bank
https://archive.ph/NP2BM

Dangerous winds return to Southern California as new wildfires break out
Dangerous winds returned to Southern California on Tuesday as new wildfires broke out and a pair of major Los Angeles-area blazes burned for a third week, while officials made preparations to protect scorched neighborhoods from toxic ash runoff ahead of potential rain this weekend.
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Dark Money Groups Want the Government to Bet Big on Crypto
A Bitcoin advocacy group pushing President Donald Trump to stockpile massive amounts of cryptocurrency and state-level efforts to do the same is run by right-wing fossil fuel operatives fighting to dismantle environmental regulations, including the author of the Project 2025 proposal to dismantle the Environmental Protection Agency. If the group has its way, governments will use taxpayer dollars and workers’ retirement funds to buy and hold billions of dollars in largely unregulated, volatile assets that would boost energy demands and accelerate climate destruction. By stockpiling Bitcoin, governments would boost legitimacy and demand for the currency, likely contributing to a massive increase in Bitcoin prices — and forcing taxpayers to foot an ever-larger bill. Such a price surge would offer major payoffs for the small group of people who own the majority of Bitcoin, the first and most recognizable kind of cryptocurrency.
https://jacobin.com/2025/01/dark-money-bitcoin-reserve-lobby

Puerto Rico. The CIA, State Terrorism and the Footprint of Its Crimes
On January 11, 2025, it was 50 years since January 11, 1975, when right-wing Cuban and Puerto Rican terrorists placed a bomb that detonated in a cafeteria in Mayagüez, just moments before a political event began in the Public Plaza of that city to honor two anniversaries: the birth of the hero and teacher Eugenio María de Hostos and the founding in 1959 of the Pro-Independence Movement of Puerto Rico (MPI). Both Hostos and the MPI were from Mayaguez. In 1971, the MPI had transformed into the Puerto Rican Socialist Party (PSP) and occupied a prominent place among the pro-independence organizations of that time in Puerto Rico. The bomb that resonated loudly and dispersed the massive crowd that had attended the event, claimed the lives of Angel Luis Charbonier Concepción, a young union member and PSP activist, and Eddie Roman Torres, a cafeteria employee. It also left 12 wounded and a trail of unanswered questions in the midst of an extremely hostile and violent political context. Days later, a clandestine organization of Cuban exile terrorists claimed responsibility for the criminal attack, which remained anonymous and unpunished for 50 years. Today, we know that the armPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2121012
>Imperialism: The Example of the Russian Federation:The Revolutionary Communist Youth League of Russia (Bolsheviks) RKSM(b)
This makes /ukr/ russian chavinist tгannies seethe

TYBNA



/leftypol/

 

What's the noble proletarian myth? Glad you asked! The noble proletarian myth is to deny any moral accountability of working class people on the basis of denying their agency under capitalism. The reasoning is usually that proletarians are basically like zombies who were directly brain controlled by the bourgeosie as if anyone never had a choice to not participate in building concentration camps, building arms, etc. It also sometimes comes in the form of pretending no proletarian is X bad thing and acting as if solely bourgeosie are like that. For example saying that only rich white people are racist but poor white people are generally not which is ridiculous to say because for whom was the ideology of oppression created if working class people were impervious to it while capitalists themselves made it up to justify the exploitation? It's all to indoctrinate working class people. Looking at history it has clearly it has worked.
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>>2120785
This.
Most self proclaimed leftists especially on LeftyPol have this dangerously stupid naive assumption that education will cleanse the proletariat psyche of spooks.
They think that discrimination is due to lack of education.
Never mind that most of our racism and sexism was promoted if not reinforced by academic institutions.

>>2120876
lmao, this is biggest redflag that the OP is a tard

>>2121154
>Morality is a spook
>Young people dating older people is "grooming" and should be criminalized

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>>2120785
>Most proles under Capital’s rule are vile scum that would kill their own friends to get ahead in life lmao, just like the bourgeoisie
Proletarians who possess their class energy are the most virtuous and moral class that humanity could ever produce, it is only when subjected to a regime that strips us of our class energy through incapacity (e.g. Nazi Germany, Liberal-ruled US) that we devolve to such a state of degeneracy. The majority of proles under the dictatorship of incapacity are vile scum, the vast majority of proles under a dynamic capitalism are those worthy of saving humanity.

Think how during the first Trump term there was the BLM riots while during Biden there was barely anything against police brutality, as a small-scale example.

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>>2121280
what the hell does the second line of greentext have to do with anything anyone said ITT



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I would never forgive this overrated reactionary weak-chinned motherfucker for ruining fantasy forever via choosing the word "race" to describe difference between elves, orcs, dwarfs and hobbits, instead of "kind", "kindred", "ilk" or something other. Now all speculative fiction (no, really, not just fantasy) that deals with multiple sapient species co-existing in the same setting is connected with a real-world race theory/white supremacy, which is absolutely monstrous. You're a fucking linguist, Professor, you SHOULD have known better!
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>>45019
>What about his WW2 letters though?
The private ones to his son where he preferred that Nazi Germany wins the war? Or the single public letter where he sent a tongue-in-cheek answer to the Stürmer?

>>45016
OP here. Nah, CS Lewis is even worse. At least Tolkien, even at his worst, does not non-stop shill for Christian God in an embarassingly blantant manner.

>>45021
>The private ones to his son where he preferred that Nazi Germany wins the war?
Which ones?

>>45018
Lesser evilism

>>45018
Is he, or are you thinking of Lewis Carroll?



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I wonder what consequences the SK military will face. If the South Korean had any balls, which they haven't, they would probably amend the constitution to make them fall under parliamentary control instead of the president.

>The government of south korea inexplicably collapsed into full on military martial law, on a random fucking Tuesday in december


what in the geopolitical FUCK is going on rn?
how did this happen?
of all possible (insert nation collapsed) SK wouldnt have been on the bingo card for me

I'm glad anons are finally learning what a tin pot republic South Korea is.
For most its history, it was barely less repressive than North Korea. You could be "disappeared" for saying something negative about the president. They even kidnapped a democracy activist from Tokyo and threw him in prison despite not actually doing much of substance against the government besides advocating for democracy.
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status?

>>2120474
honked beyond all reason

>>2120474
https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1178880.html
>Korea’s democratic crisis deepens as Yoon incites mob
>The Seoul Western District Court descended into pandemonium around 3 am on Sunday, when a warrant for detaining President Yoon Suk-yeol was issued by the court. Yoon supporters protesting the president’s detention smashed the courthouse’s windows and walls and stormed the building, destroying court property and roaming its hall in search of the judge who issued the warrant.

https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1179078.html
>How Korea’s far right went from fringe to mainstream
>Shin Jin-wook, a professor of sociology at Chung-Ang University, weighs in on the rise of the far right and their recent attack on a court

https://english.hani.co.kr/arti/english_edition/e_national/1179080.html
>How far-right Protestant groups attracted scores of down-and-out Koreans
>Kim Jin-ho, the director of the Christian Institute for the 3rd Era, spoke to the Hankyoreh about the role of Christian groups have come to be such a loud voice on the far right

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeon_Kwang-hoon
Embarrassingly, the retired former pastor of my local Korean church moved back to SK a few years ago and has been supporting him ever since.

>>2120720
thank you anon, very much appreciated! :)

I heard that Yoon is proclaiming his complete innocence (and ignorance of the plot) and attempting to let his underlings take the fall for him. He also wants their trials to be held in his presence, so he can intimidate them into toning down their testimonies to be less incriminating toward him.



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How can people listen to jazz or look at modern cinematography or other contemporary western art without feeling utter disgust and an urge to vomit. Everything that middle-class society brands as some great product of man's will reeks and oozes nihilistic life-negating ideology. I can't stand to walk down the street without wanting to fall over and cry when I see an art exhibition or an antiquariat. How bourgeois.
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>>2120795
1. Yes you can.
Film is a subjective medium and trying to form an objective analysis to it is folly.

2. Some films aren't there for a greater message, they're there purely for entertainment. Deadpool and wolverine was intended as a dumb fun adventure with 2000's nostalgia while pitting two culturally significant superheroes against eachother with entertaining fight scenes, and most people watched it for that. The soviet union still had circuses, I'd hardly say that creating mass entertainment is problematic. Rather, it's the systems that distribute these films that ought to be scrutinised.

The west has produced and made culturally significant films- some of which are anti-capitalist in nature, and dismiss it for being western is just aestheticism.
Some films I'd recommend you watch:
<Sorry To Bother You,
<Robo-Cop,
<They Live,
<The Florida Project,
<Okja,
Or hell, a lot of films from the italian neo-realism movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_neorealism
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>>2120831
> Do any of you people live in a city?
Yes
New York City
27 years
Brooklyn
13 years
> How have you not noticed that gentrification is policy and the result of that policy are thousands of little specialized stores or workshops for bourgeois tourists to spend their money and pretend to engage in cultural production and exchange.
What does any of this have to do with le jaz bad fucktard?
It’s honkie Midwestoids like you jacking up rents to begin with ffs (I mean well no it’s porky westoids but damn it do you incomes price out locals anyway)

>>2121151
*porky landlords

>>2120966
Literally fucking how?

>>2120996
Nietzschean bullshit. OP is merely one member of a long line of retards who think it's possible to synthesize Marx and Lenin with Nietzsche and Heidegger



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Modern parasitologists recognize that they have not found all human parasites. They estimate that hundreds if not thousands of human parasites will be found in the coming years.
The most deadly human parasites besides top-ranking corporate executives are protozoa, which are single-celled organisms. Some of these tiny creatures (there are over 80,000) have brought humans more misery and death than anything else in history(again, besides CEOs), including wars and famine. The most well known deadly parasitic protozoa is plasmodium, which causes malaria.

Parasites are separated into four main groups: 1) protozoa, which are tiny, one-celled organisms; 2) helminths, or worm parasites, such as tapeworms and pinworms; 3) arthropods, which aren’t parasites themselves, but these insects and spiders are common hosts of parasitic diseases; and 4) top-ranking corporate executives.

Most parasitic infections happen in warm climates or capitalistic societies, such as tropic or subtropic regions or the US healthcare system.

The only parasites are proletarians who leech off of the genius and bravery to endure risk of the bourgeoisie but then demand more than was consensually agreed to in their employment contract.

I bet most parasites aren't actually harmful.
It's only a select few that are.
Same way most bacteria isn't pathogenic

>>23219
It wouldn't be parasitism then. It would be commensalism (neutral) or mutualism (if it benefits you too).

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>>23191
>endure risk

>>23356
>first pic
I do praise gamblers though



/leftypol/

 

why is a bourgeois right like "free speech" vigorously defended by right and left in principle, yet neither support it in practice? because it ultimately serves impractical aims. the "freer" speech becomes (on unfortunate platforms like twitter), the worse that public discourse also becomes. why give rights to the wrong? because you want to larp as an 18th century secularist separating church and state?

i personally do not believe in free speech, neither for my friends or enemies, because im sane. same way i dont believe in democracy for its own sake, because thats retarded. there are things i should have no power over, as a citizen. there are things which should not be allowed to be said. controversy only arises when you are dishonest about such issues and pretend that all things are born in freedom. they are not. shake the cage and you will get bitten. at the end of words is a fist or a gun, and this is speech's internal limits. talk shit, get hit.

this is also why i think we must move away from anonymity as a culture. irl all these twitter trolls would cower under the light of the sun. they are judged in their essence as losers, and that to me is only right. it is regrettable that the biggest cowards talk the loudest (like a small dog yapping behind a fence), but that is precisely why i oppose free speech. nothing of value would be lost in censoring these fools. the tiktok ban is a good start.
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CONSTITUTION OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA
ARTICLE 35
CITIZENS OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA SHALL ENJOY FREEDOM OF SPEECH, THE PRESS, ASSEMBLY, ASSOCIATION, PROCESSION AND DEMONSTRATION

>>2117576
Your logic is exactly why OP wrote what he wrote

Capitalist countries just have no conception of freedom. They think getting barraged with garbage 24/7 is "freedom of speech" even if the vast majority of individuals have no real platform. It's the "freedom" to be manipulated.

>>2116163
>why is a bourgeois right like "free speech" vigorously defended by right and left in principle, yet neither support it in practice? because it ultimately serves impractical aims. the "freer" speech becomes (on unfortunate platforms like twitter), the worse that public discourse also becomes. why give rights to the wrong? because you want to larp as an 18th century secularist separating church and state?

>i personally do not believe in free speech, neither for my friends or enemies, because im sane. same way i dont believe in democracy for its own sake, because thats retarded. there are things i should have no power over, as a citizen. there are things which should not be allowed to be said. controversy only arises when you are dishonest about such issues and pretend that all things are born in freedom. they are not. shake the cage and you will get bitten. at the end of words is a fist or a gun, and this is speech's internal limits. talk shit, get hit.


I agree but this is autistic. Who cares what you 'support'?

>this is also why i think we must move away from anonymity as a culture. irl all these twitter trolls would cower under the light of the sun. they are judged in their essence as losers, and that to me is only right. it is regrettable that the biggest cowards talk the loudest (like a small dog yapping behind a fence), but that is precisely why i oppose free speech. nothing of value would be lost in censoring these fools. the tiktok ban is a good start.


This glows. Whats your real name and address OP?

>>2116163
Dude, limiting hate speech is not bad because of some delusional belief in which everyone is amenable to reason; it's bad because you want these people leaving a trail instead of hiding away in the shadows. By limiting their speech, you're depriving others of the information they need to avoid them.
There's also the simple fact of human nature that many will give credence to what authority figures are trying to suppress.



/meta/

 

Its on siberia again
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>>39038
use report button. where?

>>39041
Mods removed it

it happened again

>>39193
where? report

>>39388
wherever it was it must have been gotten, theres nothign the past 2 hours



/roulette/

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Welcome to /roulette/, leftypol's roulette board! This board will be used for testing out new board ideas. The guidelines are as follows:

- The countdown will begin as soon as the board is added to the announcement bar and will last for one month.
- After a month, if the board has garnered enough posts on that month's topic, it will be made into a new board (barring any legitimate objections by the moderation team) and the threads will be moved there. Off-topic and spam posts will not count. Board ideas that do not meet this requirement will be shelved, with the possibility of being revisited later.
- New board ideas can be suggested in the /meta/ thread for /roulette/.

This month's board topic is: /babel/ - Languages, creoles and dialects
­Last month's board topic /spoox/ - Paranormal, horror and the occult.

Rules:
- /babel/ is a board for discussing anything without English!
- You can discuss anything but English is prohibited.
- Brief comments can be made in English as long as it is spoilered
- General rules of the site apply, see : https://leftypol.org/rules.html(该用户被禁止发送此条评论)
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/games/

 

Has Oneyplays fell off. Cause all the new videos are kinda mid to the old videos. The old ding dong and Julian videos are timeless while the new stuff is barely remember-able. They don't even have Zack. And i know he's busy with smiling friends but he's kinda of a big part of Oneyplays. Chris also hasn't made any new animations in a while. Also i know about Bolwbo and i heard it's cancelled but i might be wrong so yeah idk. But it just starting to feel alot more worse. Do you guys also feel like this?

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I don't watch their streams, I just see them occasionally and they're usually fun when I do see them.

This is probably a healthier way to engage with them. Let them cook and come back when when the fun has accumulated rather than sitting under the dispenser.

Zach is the soul of Oneyplays. It would be like removing Nick from Cumtown and only having Stav and Adam.

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Looks like the Lightbringer won this one.



/dead/

 

What do you think about class analysis (especially Marxian and Weberian class analysis)? What do you think about Stirnerite Marxism (not to be confused with ego-communism) and post-Marxism? What do you think about DZ Rowan, Alfredo M. Bonanno, Raoul Vaneigem, George Batalle and Jean Baudrillard? And do you think Marx's populism is stupid? What do you think about the concepts of "class interests," "false consciousness" and "cultural hegemony."
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>>5684
Go back to the main board.

>>5685
So you're saying this board is even more illiterate than the main one?

>>5684
Philosophy is incredibly important, serving as the bedrock that all of the sciences, social or otherwise, build on.

>>5716
Not really. It's just mainly thought experiments used to make people feel like they're doing something productive




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