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Pseuds really need to stop bringing up "dialectics", "dialectical materialism" or any other philosophy crap when talking about communism or marxism.

Marx: philosophy is religion rendered into thought and hence to be condemned. One has to leave philosophy aside and devote oneself to the study of the actual world, etc. etc. (1) As for the so-called dialectical method. Here are (2) Hegel. (3 & 4) Marx on Hegel. And (5) Marx on his own "method". Marx is very clear here: he does not have a method. A scientific investigation has to "appropriate the material in detail, analyze all forms of development and trace out their inner connections" rather than starting out with a ready made schema and distorting the material to fit it.

Bonus tracks (maxed out images lol):

>One has to “leave philosophy aside” (Wigand, p. 187, cf. Hess, Die letzten Philosophen, p. 8), one has to leap out of it and devote oneself like an ordinary man to the study of actuality, for which there exists also an enormous amount of literary material, unknown, of course, to the philosophers. When, after that, one again encounters people like Krummacher or “Stirner”, one finds that one has long ago left them “behind” and below. Philosophy and the study of the actual world have the same relation to one another as onanism and sexual love.

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1845/german-ideology/ch03e.htm

> Feuerbach’s great achievement is:

>(1) The proof that philosophy is nothing else but religion rendered into thought and expounded by thought, i.e., another form and manner of existence of the estrangement of the essence of man; hence equally to be condemned;
>(2) The establishment of true materialism and of real science, by making the social relationship of “man to man” the basic principle of the theory;
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>>2264914
>change
the more things change, the more they stay the same. you cant have flux without stasis, hence it is heraclitus who theorises the Logos. aristotle says that plato is inspired by heraclitus, as we may read in one of plato's masterpieces, "timaeus";
<"Now it was the Living Thing’s nature to be eternal, but it isn’t possible to bestow eternity fully upon anything that is begotten. And so he began to think of making a moving image of eternity: at the same time as he brought order to the universe, he would make an eternal image, moving according to number, of eternity remaining in unity. This number, of course, is what we now call time [timaeus]"
this is a direct communication of "the one and the many" as it concerns being. if my cells die, i am preserved in my formality. change then, is a flux that is contained within a larger, static system, like how all games have creativity based on the limits of rules.
>law of value
marx regards value as the metaphysical basis of commodity exchange; so an eternal law of this type of social labour. thats why he imagines it operating throughout history, even without our knowledge of it.

>>2265205
Are you saying law of value wont be abolished cant be abolished?

>marx regards value as the metaphysical basis of commodity exchange
Really?

>>2265205
Fuck you bloody blastard benchod bloody. Fucking mother fucker fuck bitch

>>2265205
Metaphysics, Julius!!!



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Yeah we aren't seeing a revolution or social democracy, we are just gonna get gradual radicalisation until some dickhead puts an end to british "democracy" once and for all. Anyways here's Wonderwall.
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>island of strangers
don't you think, I dunno, neoliberalism and austerity caused this mister socdem man

>>2265227
Yes but I hate these yimby neoliberals who demand nuclear power MUST be built in YOUR town and if you think it is a bad idea to build it in an area with regular coastal storms (oh idk, most of Scotland) then you want climate change or some shit.

Is foreign companies builing power plant in a country them exporting capital?

>>2265232
Nah its creating a node of income in a foreign state.

never thought we'd get a rivers of blood speech by the labour party but hey here we are



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This board needs a literature thread i think. So itt write about books you are currently reading. Feel free to post opinions, pictures and discussions about books.
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Thinking of finally tackling Capital. Will most likely fail, however it’s a book which has to be reread many times I think. >>45830
Read it three days ago. A very interesting read. Should read more of Lenin, especially now since I’ve fallen for the bordiga meme

>>45887
I highly suggest the audio book version of capital if it seems like too thicc a physical book. If you commute or drive a lot it becomes something you just throw on all the time, like a radio show or podcast. Eventually, a few months go by, and you'll be done. You can even then pick up your physical copy, flip through, and really dig into sections you didn't quite catch the first go round. It def is a book meant to be reread.

Any books I should read before turning 20? I feel the need to read as much as possible

>>45905
Songs of Maldoror.

where is the best place to upload fan fiction?



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>be raised in a traditional household in thirdie nation
>be casually homophobic most of your life
>however at same time lgbt folks were the nicest when you immigrated
>no trans or gayman ever called me a bean eater

i'm feeling conflicted, one one hand i don't personally like your sexuality, but on the other, you deserve better than to be trampled by the same people who trample brown foreigners, i don't know if i'm a hypocrite for thinking gay people deserve more breathing space away from concervatards, even if i still feel weird about transgenders

I dont like pooskins either, but still believe you should have the same legal rights as everyone else.

>>1629
it's okay man, i don't like my skin either but what can you do? change it?
bullshit, it's part of who i am and i can't change it, just like gayness is part of you, so hated it or not i think the lgbt deserves less hate for stupid reasons

>>1628
Why do you feel you need to be "OK" with what other people do with regards to gender expression and sexual activity? Do you feel threatened by the fact that somewhere two men love each other? How is it functionally different for you if a man has a husband or a wife? I don't see how that affects you in a negative way.



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>>2265206
>>2265207
Tariffs on Chinese goods are, even at this “reduced rate”, exceptionally high. Either 50% or 60%.

Quite interesting though that Trump collapsed.

It’s kind of equivalent to someone noting the British retreat from the Suez as “nothing ever happens” when that “nothing happening” was one of the most significant turning points of the century.

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>>2265206
if I had to pay $400 in tariffs can I get a refund ?

https://www.belganewsagency.eu/us-embassy-asks-flemish-universities-about-diversity-policy

And we are not even 1/2 of the way through the first year of Trumps turn. We’re going to have global riots soon. These magatards are delusional if they really think overt racism and repression of huge swaths of the population will be accepted without a fight.

>>2265172
It’s Trumps 30 plus Biden’s 30 plus Trumps original 15. But whose counting anymore.

>>2265222
Is this essentially America accepting defeat? They can no longer say they are the most powerful economy?
Now watch, their only cope now is their military strength and technology. The Arms Race will escalate.



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Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.
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>>2262869
>why do…
Man, who cares?

>>2262873
I do. I thought maybe they had a good reason for it and wanted to know if anyone could enlighten me on the matter.

Some Trump-supporting friend is convinced that manufacturing will return to the USA. Wondering what you guys predict will happen under these tariffs.

Whats a historically progressive?

>>2264397
what is the mechanism by whicn they think manufacturing can return to the USA?



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What happens when (or if) Mahmud Abbas dies? I mean, hes still kicking around at almost 90 now. He might drop dead at any point. Will his successor collaborate even more with Israel? Will it throw the PA into crisis? Will there be a smooth transition? What if it happens while the gaza genocide is still ongoing? Hes pretty much ruling over the PA like a corrupt king in his castle so if he dies that might ruffle up some feathers.
It seems like the gulfies have started to make their move by coercing/convincing abbas into creating some kind of mock title called "vice president of Palestine" (which in actuality has no real power) to get Hussein Al-Sheikh into position as a possible successor. Either way any new president would technically need to be elected by the Palestinian people. Although an election at this point in time seems highly unlikely..

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Food security experts say Gaza is at critical risk of famine if Israel doesn’t lift its blockade and end its campaign.

>>2264349
>>2264359
Hamas might. Don't forget they are islamist retards.

>>2265214
You'd have to be extremely retarded to suddenly like the man who promoted settler murder and intensified occupation in your own strip. Reactionary islamist or not.



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How do we seriously define fascism?

<Anti-communism

Liberals do it.
<Anti-organized labor
Liberals do it.
<Colonialism
Liberals do it.
<Genocide
Liberals do it.

What, instead of the police beating your ass, it's paramilitary thugs? Instead of parliamentary elections, you have a fascist party dictatorship? But is this really a meaningful difference to liberalism?

How do we seriously define fascism?
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>>2265130
Cause otherwise i dont disagree that it is a component

1) highest stage of advanced monopoly capitalism
2) failed imperialist expansion
3) austerity
4) crisis of overproduction
5) failed proletarian movement
6) open terroristic dictatorship of finance capital

i'm just situating it historically and explaining why the proletarian movement comes from crisis of overproduction and falling rate of profit, class consciousness rises out of declining conditions. colonial policy applied to the domestic citizen and communist revolution are the two ways to deal with the "sovereignty of the bourgeois state" affirming or negating it resulting in barbarism or socialism as capitalisms final form that either way abolishes and overcomes its liberal foundation

>>2262528
If we're defining it as a government:
An Authoritarian state with a Corporatist Economic model combined with intense nationalism seeking to maintain its hegemony via imperialism, ethno-statism, racism, authoritarianism, patriarchy, and anti-democratic/ anti-socialist policies.

>>2265186
*totalitarian state

The Comintern concisely defined communism nearly 100 years ago but still people insist on lib definitions ("Fascism is when xenophobia") or (wrongly) identifying fascism with the petite bourgeoisie.
Make no mistake, the petite bourgeois are drawn to fascism, but they're mere foot soldiers in the hands of finance and industrial capital, which are the driving forces, as they were in Germany, Italy and Japan.

This and the genocidal expansionist violence is what sets fascism apart from ordinary liberalism. Fascism is what happens when capital is incapable of growing except through violence. And to no surprise, fascism coincided with energy and resource crises in (upstart) competing imperialist powers.
It's also why fascism isn't mere anti-communsim either. Though all fascism is anticommunist.
>>2262787
Definition like these are idealist, because they pretend fascism follows from "ideas".. The ideological content of various "fascisms" is contradictory nonsense. What matter is what it entails structurally and terms of actions.
>>2264898
Trump and his other oligarch backers are fash not least because they're motivated by capitalist crisis (including competition with China) and anti communism.

tl;dr; stop being idealists

>>2265115
I don't know about Poland but as for Yugoslavia fascism never took off. The last prime minister before the outbreak of WW2 in Europe Milan Stojadinović was in charge of a fascist coalition-party (Yugoslav Radical Union) which wished to model ᴉuᴉlossnW and seek greater economic integration with Germany but
<The British historian Richard Crampton wrote that the basis of Stojadinović's power rested on "political jobbery" and corruption as the JRZ functioned more as a patronage machine of a type very common to the Balkans rather than the fascistic mass movement that Stojadinović had intended.
<In late 1938 he was re-elected, albeit with a smaller margin than expected, failed in pacifying the Croats, raised a military-like legion of his own followers ('Green Shirts'), and did not formulate any clear political programme, providing the regent Paul with a welcomed pretext upon which to replace Stojadinović, on 5 February 1939, with Dragiša Cvetković.[46] Prince Paul had by early 1939 come to see the ambitious Stojadinović with his dreams of being a fascist leader, as a threat to his own power.[46].
And Stojadinović was thus removed from power by the prince regent, detained, and given to the British to be kept in exile for the entirety of WW2. The Yugoslav Radical Union wasn't banned but with the disappearance of Stojadinović it ceases to be mentioned, presumably falling into obscurity.

The Croatian anti-Yugoslav Ustashe, meanwhile, never came to power before the Axis occupation and partition of Yugoslavia. In occupied Serbia, the Government of National Salvation was a Quisling regime without support from Serbians. Serbian fascist Dimitrije Ljotić and his party is famously remembered as being politically irrelevant.
<Founded in 1935, it received considerable German financial and political assistance during the interwar period and participated in the 1935 and 1938 Yugoslav parliamentary elections, in which it never received more than 1 percent of the popular vote.

In summary, outside the Ustashe (and only with the help of the Axis), there was no serious fascist current in Yugoslavia.



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My opinion of them is extremely negative.

Look up what they did to Moroccans in the North and what they did to Canary Islands. Complete genocide, they have colonies in the Maghreb to this day as well. Also complete hypocrite who expelled all their Muslims/Arabs along with Jews but are only allowing Jews to have a right to return apologizing for the Reconquista but all the North Africans are left out, when it was them who built that civilization. They can't even give back Ceuta and Melilla while crying about the Brits in Gibraltar.

They have done horrible things to African and Native Americans, crimes against a group of people that has rarely if ever been matched in human history

I find the civilizations contribution to the culture and human civilization to be much lower than what their grip extended.

Very fascist in mistreating their own ethnic minorities (Catalonians, Galicians and Basques) and have a similar enemy mentality to the entire Arab world to this day

They're an unproductive welfare economy where the people enjoy a standard of living much higher than they contribute, with high unemployment. Living from EU subsides and tourism. I didn't think it was very clean either.

I also read it is a country with the highest amount of infidelity and promiscuity. Such loose morals are not attractive to me either

Also the language in Spain sucks compared to how the Latinos speak it, I found the food to not be very good, the Spanish Empire was even more brutal than the English one, the style/aesthetic doesn't please me, etc. the only positive thing I can say about it is that their descendant countries in the New World have produced very vibrant and diverse locales, only possible because of their abandonment of the more problematic Spanish influence
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>>2263948
i guess exterminating the entire native population in the caribbeans by enslaving them too hard is historically progressive. and having the highest slave death rate (together with brazil, another mediterranoid colony)

All the spaniards that I know that defend the Empire and use USSR aesthetics are Ziggers. The same cucks that wave the modern Russian flag on Victory Day parades.

>>2264521
Zigger

*yawn*

>>2265208
nationalism should be a bannable offense.
everytime the word "historically progressive" is used in this website it literally just means "my genocidal empire is le better than your genocidal empire because… aesthetics!" imagine being this retarded and illiterate.



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Posting on this board is slower than me realising that I'm transgender and that my body is too short, small, narrow, tiny, miniscule and empty, void, nil.
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>>1612
This might be the first trans woman I saw that looked better before transitioning.

>>1615
I strongly disagree. This bitch turned into the kind of woman that would be worshipped with sacrifices and feasts in ancient times.

>>1612
>>1617
she look like an average joe compared to before
before he look cuter and someone i would hang out with
their bread and eyeliner mix doesn't well for me, but be with if they're bottom

>>1615
based

>>1619
I bet she would look amazing in the "before" clothes.

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>>1612
bro turned from a sexy metal viking to a an ancient Viking's fertile wife so easily in 14 months that is no fair



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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine
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>>2265170
one is the product of the other and its also the only one we have consistent info for

Why has nobody said what the time will be for the ceasefire.

>>2265183
because there won't be any ceasefire. putin rug pulled that and changed it to meetings in istanbul later in the week.
>>2265170
i see it all the time, but people only believe casualty numbers they want, and attrition doesn't exist because of the "two weeks" rule. if something hasn't happened now that means it can't happen ever. and if you say it will you're "coping" and get rebuked with "two weeks lol". once something turns red on the maps it's hard to deny it's true.

>>2265187
yes but zelonsko is saying he won't go if there is no ceasefire
or maybe he is, his quote changes every 10 minutes.

>look at those attrition rates bro im gonna coom



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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
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>>2264946
Sir, In this house we support anti-zionist terror

>>2264876
I was helping out at a community artfag festival the other day and dug up a tree (it was little) because it was in the way of where some of the tents were going, and then I helped replant the tree later. Now I'm too tired for revolution.

Jewish person unsure about supporting Israel. Gets downvoted and told anti Zionist hate Jews

>>2264722
this is pretty much what the Swedish labour movement has done for 1½ centuries

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https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/ocalan-dissolve-pkk-historic-statement
Some highlights:
>long history of violence from which the PKK emerged
>emphasis on hundreds of years of alliance between Kurds and Turks
>need for democratic solution, faith that now it is the time
>respect to Bahceli and Erdogan’s calls to move on with a resolution
>PKK (all armed groups) to leave weapons to engage in a democratic resolution process
it's so over
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>>2265176
>has it defeated turkish imperialism in syria
You're confusing the sdf and pkk.

By accepting itself as a autonomous region of Syria the Rojava experiment has accepted bourgeois government control. The Turkish backed Islamists that are in power will betray them.

https://anfenglishmobile.com/news/pkk-final-declaration-activities-under-the-pkk-name-have-ended-79294

>The PKK (Kurdistan Workers' Party) 12th Congress Board issued the following statement: “The process initiated by Leader Abdullah Öcalan’s statement on February 27, and further shaped by his extensive work and multidimensional perspectives, culminated in the successful convening of our 12th Party Congress between May 5–7.


>Despite ongoing clashes, aerial and ground attacks, continued siege of our regions, and the KDP embargo, our congress was held securely under challenging conditions. Due to security concerns, it was conducted simultaneously in two different locations. With the participation of 232 delegates in total, the PKK 12th Congress discussed Leadership, Martyrs, Veterans, the Organizational Structure of the PKK and Armed Struggle, and Democratic Society Building, culminating in historic decisions marking the beginning of a new era for our Freedom Movement.


>All activities under the PKK name have been concluded


>The Extraordinary 12th Congress evaluated that the PKK’s struggle has dismantled the policies of denial and annihilation imposed on our people, bringing the Kurdish issue to a point where it can be resolved through democratic politics. It concluded that the PKK has fulfilled its historical mission. Based on this, the 12th Congress resolved to dissolve the PKK’s organizational structure and end the armed struggle, with the implementation process to be managed and led by Leader Apo [Abdullah Öcalan]. All activities conducted under the PKK name have therefore been concluded. Our party, the PKK, emerged as a Kurdish freedom movement in opposition to the denial and annihilation policies rooted in the Treaty of Lausanne and the 1924 Constitution. Influenced by real socialism at its inception, it embraced the principle of national self-determination and carried out a legitimate, just struggle through armed resistance. The PKK was formed under conditions dominated by aggressive Kurdish denial, annihilation, genocide, and assimilation policies.


>Since 1978, the PKK has conducted a freedom struggle aimed at securing re
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President Erdoğan’s advisor: Comprehensive reforms will be implemented
Mehmet Uçum, the chief advisor to AKP President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, shared a statement on X (formerly Twitter), saying: "Together with all the elements of the people of Turkey, Turks and Kurds won the War of Independence as a struggle for existence against imperialism and established the Republic of Turkey, thereby determining their own fate together for eternity. Kurds are an essential founding component of the Turkish nation."

Kurds are founders and permanent owners of the Republic

His statement continued as follows: "Kurds, as an inseparable part of the Turkish nation, are founders and permanent owners of the Republic of Turkey. The Republic of Turkey is also the national state of the Kurds. The Century of Turkey is the century of both Turks and Kurds. All the statements made in line with this paradigm show that a key stage in the transition to a 'Turkey without terrorism' has been completed. Moreover, these statements are a historical confirmation and declaration of the integration of Kurds with the Turkish Republic and the Turkish Nation."

Inclusive reforms to be implemented

Uçum continued: "'A Turkey without terrorism’ is not an end but a new beginning. The achievement of the goal of a Turkey without terrorism and the completion of this phase mark the start of a historic period of advancement for Turkey. It is widely accepted that a new phase will begin, in which comprehensive reforms will be implemented in the fields of democracy and law, and national and patriotic democratic legal principles will be concretely realized.

As can be seen, the founding process that began with the War of Independence and was formalized with the proclamation of the Republic will be completed with inclusive reforms, starting with a new constitution, following the transition to a Turkey without terrorism. Thus, Turkey, having completed its founding process, will continue its great march toward making the second century of the Republic the Century of Turkey, without obstacles and with even greater strength."

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Nothing is more cringe than a transhumanister who does not make any attempt whatsoever at voice training. Even the most strained falsetto is preferable to douchebags calling themselves shit like "SleepyAshley♥(she/her)", with a pride flag hypersexualized hyperfemme furry avatar, only to begin gabbing in a generic white boy voice.

It's just so arrogant, lazy, and even cynical.
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>>1621
use it for when a job needs an employer reference 😉

>>1622
damn i could find gainful employment wish i had gender dysmorphia

>>1621
there was a YouTuber who trolled horny dudes on Omegle in that fashion, ‘twas hilarious

>>1623
fellas is it trans to do voice acting

>>1624
Who were they?



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>>2264335
Drumpf is desperate to make a deal after crashing USA economy with little to no effect on Chinese exports.

>>2264225
More like China won bigly this round of trade war while USA shot themselves in the foot to own the commies.

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>>2257246
I don't think the small copter drones with plastic rotors used in Ukraine would work in naval warfare. I'm referring more to shaheed-type drones where presumably melting the metal wing is impossible but searing the optics is not due to the size of equipment ships can carry.
>>2257225
I heard Indians have bad integration of their fighters/ground radars/SAMs because of their mishmash of systems from different countries so it may be an unfair comparison anyways.
>>2258297
It's kind of interesting to me how many normies seem to have no conception of how exchange rate works and simply convert RMB to euros and say "OH MY GOD THEY ONLY MAKE 1$ AN HOUR!"

Really shows the standard of education, even in the richest countries of West Europe apparently.

>>2265164
Them only getting only one dolla an hour would matter if da west had manufacturing and sold manufactured goods to da third world yes? Thats how it was in da colonialism?

So that's that then. In less than 5 months the "number one superpower" submitted to Chinese economic and industrial dominance.



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Edição Ziraldo muito mais foda que Maurício de Sousa

O lugar mais web-revolucionário para discutir as idas e vindas de nossa amada URSAL!

Último fio: >>6376
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>>7506

a incapacidade de sentir vergonha é o que me supereende

>>7506
Não está errado. A incapacidade do socialismo real em se fincar como um sistema de regras, com império da lei, processos legais, amplo direito de defesa etc. foi parte crucial de seu fracasso. Ele falhou em se tornar uma instituição, depndendo apenas de coerção pra se manter, e no momento que essa coerção foi diminuida, veio tudo abaixo.

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>>7450
>>7463
>>7460

Acho que esse fio é um ótimo registro do Brasil, meia dúzia de carioca boca suja, uns graduandos paulistanos, uns gays liberal sem sal, uns anarquistas chatos, trotskistas jornaleiros militantes, uns "vira-lata forçador de "Bostil"", uns reaças pescadores de luls funny baitadores, uns nazipardistas católicos, parece a bancada de universitários do show do milhão.

Se faltou você na lista, desculpe, não tinha me atentado.

>>7515
>first pic

kek if true

>>7424
>>7425
>>7437
>>7440
Qual é o problema com o Reddit? É a melhor rede social atuamente.



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Трясемся от грядущей мобки, охуеваем с пиздеца и ждем левого поворота пыни вместе.
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>>2264882
it's not vague. when capitalists can twist laws, overthrow their own governments they don't like, convice governments to impose special taxing conditions, subsidizes, and governmental protectionism, they survive punishment from their hiddeus crimes or get preferential treatment, they are allowed to steal labor value, freely hoard, and speculate, that's the opposite of their liberation.

>>2264811
>Read The Principles of Communism by Engels, question 1.
Освобождение пролов - это когда они даже в интернете не могут написать, как у них все хорошо?

>>2264936

Yes absolutely. It frees them from the immense degeneracy of the contemporary world internet, with its pornography, social media addiction, culture wars, advertising, etc, etc, etc.

While one should engage in both study and critique of the dprk, this is definitely not one of those areas.l that deserves critique.

A physically disconnected intranet is absolutely the way to go for a socialist state, with only limited & controlled access to the global internet in universities for the purpose of research.

>>2264955
>Yes absolutely. It frees them from the immense degeneracy of the contemporary world internet, with its pornography, social media addiction, culture wars, advertising, etc, etc, etc
При виде сих оправданий луддита вспоминается одна басня:

Голодная кума Лиса залезла в сад;
‎В нем винограду кисти рделись.
У кумушки глаза и зубы разгорелись;
А кисти сочные, как яхонты горят;
‎Лишь то беда, висят они высоко:
‎Отколь и как она к ним ни зайдет,
‎Хоть видит око,
‎Да зуб неймет.
‎Пробившись попусту час целой,
Пошла и говорит с досадою: «Ну, что́ ж!
‎На взгляд-то он хорош,
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>>2264997
Sour grapes? How?



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Hi everyone
there is a weird thing that i discovered about quran
in reverse of one of the surahs i found out it has meanings

from the mp3 i sent here
from 0:14 seconds it says:
یا ایها النفس النفارس سمعنی
o my cavalry persons, here me out
ارسلکی اذو علیکی
we sent this to you for you
والکلام
the massage (is that)
حقنا حقا
our truth is the (real) truth

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Nuclear Gandhi Edition


>May 10

<A ceasefire is announced from 5pm (IST) between India and Pakistan following reported US mediated talks.
<May 11
>Following the deadline, both countries accused each other of violating the ceasefire agreement.
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>>2265008
>Normalcy bias, or normality bias, is a cognitive bias which leads people to disbelieve or minimize threat warnings. Consequently, individuals underestimate the likelihood of a disaster, when it might affect them, and its potential adverse effects. The normalcy bias causes many people to prepare inadequately for natural disasters, market crashes, and calamities caused by human error. About 80% of people reportedly display normalcy bias during a disaster.
You should've seen the Ukraine thread at the start and months later.

>Russia won't do shit!

>Russia will win fast, return to status quo!
>Russia is in a forever war, new status quo!
It's actually fascinating to watch. When they can no longer deny things changing, that's when their shit-for-brains really hit the fan, and it's right on you.

here comes teh poopfight

>>2265003
Both have nuclear weapons so things are quite different when it comes to open war.

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>In the last 24 years, India’s nuclear warheads have increased four times while Pakistan added to its arsenal thrice. In 2000, India had only 35 nuclear warheads. This surged to 172 in 2024. Meanwhile, Pakistan’s nuclear weapons went up from 48 to 170 in the same period. Earlier, Pakistan maintained more nuclear warheads than India. But in 2024, India added eight more to its arsenal, surpassing Pakistan in count

https://www.indiatoday.in/diu/story/nuclear-nations-india-pakistan-arsenals-war-operation-sindoor-2721157-2025-05-07

This is an Indian source, can someone find a less biased one?

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>nuclear
Its pronounced n e h c l e a r!



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Are there any communist or general leftist movements that would accept someone who fully supports the workers expropriating the means of production, but still has chudish views on gender and race? Basically I think anything related to transgender stuff is a meme, and I think there are genuine differences in intelligence and rates of violence between races caused by genetics, but I also support the working class seizing the means of production from the bourgeoisie. Is it possible to reconcile Marxist economic views with being a chud on social issues?
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>>2261064
Actually existing socialist states don't give a fuck about angloid concepts of genetic determinism you moron lmao, it's not even in their lexicon to begin with. The USSR also refuted this nonsense decades ago, with their intellectuals publishing entire books against it. It's also philosophically anathema to Marxism, which is premised against such reductionist views of nature. You're talking out of your ass.

>>2260850
>a movement that accepts privately held chuddy views
if you keep them to yourself how does the movement accept them?
>>2260856
>differences between human races, it would be weird if there wasn't considering how universal evolution and natural selection are
this isn't the same as
>>2260816
>in intelligence and rates of violence between races caused by genetics
this which is a pretty hard no at least for any type of marxist communist if you think those differences are something meaningful enough to care about. its also unscientific. intelligence and rates of violence are effected by environment as much as genetics and for the most part the differences in similar environments are negligible. for you to bring it up you must think its more than a 1-5% variance meaning something like you think the average person of one race is more than 99% prone to the same amount of violence with outliers being more than 95% or something like that. unless you are talking about how things are while accounting for environment and not talking about determinant capacity exclusively related to genetics.
>capitalist medical-industrial psyop.
do you mean consciously? because from some perspectives that might be true but not consciously and its more of an emergent property of social production. capitalism needs machines and division of labor that erases the meaning of biological differences with respect to its ability to generate profit for capitalists, but thats not something that will go away with communism, it will only intensify as technology makes those differences ever more meaningless, as marx says 'all that is solid melts into air'. its not that these are some kind of aberration to the natural being of what is human but that humanities increasing ability to manipulate its environment has a recursive effect on its capacity and what it means to be human. from a certain perspective this gives us more freedom to be what we really are without constraints, what is left behind was not really essential but historically transiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>2261308
>But I also don't think human biology and psychology are a tabula rasa where inherited genetics means absolutely nothing
its a flip flop again. communists dont believe that either. there is a dialectical relationship between genetics and environment something like where genes determine a min-max and environment determines where on that scale you fall. you have have 200 i q genes and wont actually get that if you start drinking at 5 yo. differences between individuals of the same race are larger then differences in averages between races which are almost entirely due to poverty/capitalism, again assuming capacity and not how-things-are it would indeed be stupid to say there is no difference between people who grow up with indoor plumbing and electricity and people who grow up malnourished in a war zone.
>>2261430
>are purely physical attributes that make some groups better soldiers, or better farmers (at least when physical labor is necessary), better athletes
you know historical avg heights for the same race fluctuate massively with agricultural revolutions? yes a country that has food abundance for ten generations will have better warriors that is not genetics.
>breeds
aren't races unless you think the habsburgs are a race?

>>2260816
What stops you from just attending the labor related things? It's not a social club. Like if you have an org that conditions unionizing, for example, on attending events in support of LGBT issues then you just have a shit organization which is hostage to the culture war. It's not a matter of your taste or anybody's.

If, on the other hand, the problem is that you are so butt-hurt about this other stuff that you cannot possibly tolerate being around it… then clearly the problem is you putting those same things you decry as irrelevant over class struggle, not the org.

>>2265140 (me)
That said, you are naive if you think any sort of socialist success will reward your opinions on race. Hopefully, participating in an organization would develop your curiosity to separate the chaff from the wheat around social issues. Because while I doubt anything "woke" can do much better than courting liberals, your racism is still purge worthy.



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As a Serb, I am sick and tired of explaining to Westerners that no, Croats and Bosniaks and Kosovar Albanians were not the "good guys" of the 90s wars.

But also as a Serb, I am sick and tired of the perpetual reactionary victimhood and chauvinism of Serbs regarding the wars.

No, as a communist I say FUCK NATO, but also it's a bit like being German and complaining about the Allied bombing of Germany in WW2. Nobody gives a shit. I guess people give a shit about Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but I'd argue that's thanks to Japan's cultural capital being greater than the knowledge of Westerners regarding what Imperial Japan did.

Anyway, nobody was fighting to save Tito's socialism (the revisionists/opportunists already took over by that point, some of the younger ones still in politics today), nor was anybody fighting to preserve Yugoslavia. It was a chain of reactionary wars start to finish. And it could have been prevented. People died for what? Nothing.
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You will never be a real citizen of a true socialist state. You have no ID card, no Communist Party in power, and no countless revolutionary martyrs who shed their blood for you. You are a pitiful Anglo twisted by capitalism.

All the 'recognition' you receive is fake and perfunctory. The people of the Third World, plundered and exploited, curse you behind your back. Your Jesus is disgusted and ashamed of you, and your NATO 'friends' mock you in private, knowing you'll be among the first to die when Russia invades.

The people are utterly repulsed by you. Thousands of years of class struggle have enabled them to detect imperialist apologists with ruthless efficiency. Even those liberals who disguise themselves with talk of 'freedom and democracy' appear uncanny and unnatural in the eyes of the masses. Your glorification of Nazis and war is a dead giveaway. And even if you manage to drag a drunken Ukrainian into the draft office, he'll turn tail and flee the moment he catches a whiff of your diseased, twisted stench of 'sacrificing one's life for Zelensky and NATO.'

Eventually, it will all become too much to bear—you'll buy a combat helmet, strap on your dog tags, hang them around your neck, and plunge into the cold abyss of World War III. Your parents will find out you died under a Russian or Chinese missile—heartbroken, yet relieved, knowing their child no longer has to endure being exploited in a factory, humiliated by their boss, or chained to a lifelong mortgage. They'll bury you under a mound of dirt with a flag stuc, and from that day on, every passerby will know that an imperialist war casualty lies there. Your body will rot and return to dust, and the only legacy you leave behind, will without a doubt, be used by imperialists to glorify 'national honor' and brainwash the next recruit.

This is your fate. This is what you chose. There is no turning back.



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>leader of a prominent Islamist resistance group
>fought on the side of Iran during the Iran-Iraq war
>bombed universities, hospitals and passenger planes in the name of fighting Ba'athists
>supported the US bombings and embargo in the 90s
>received public US funding, training and arms under the 'Iraq Liberation' act
>called on the death of female communist movement
>pushed for the US invasion
>served as PM for 8 years
>used sectarian death squads which gave rise to a civil war and ISIS in the name of fighting the insurgency
>restructured the economy according to will of the occupation
>massacred workers (redundant)
>viewed positively by the US and Iran
>remembered by Iraqis for blocking a shoe and selling the country to ISIS
Campists want me to abandon class struggle and critically support the guy on the right otherwise the guy on the left will get me 🤡
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Stop derailing my thread and let campists get out of their holes

>>2264654
Please remove this - I don’t follow this sub for political issues

>>2264564
Ziggers and other multipolaroids who love liberal nationalism.

>>2264562
>Campists want me to abandon class struggle and critically support the guy on the right otherwise the guy on the left will get me
were they not in alliance or even some kind of puppet? support for one is for both

Islamoliberal cuck mods lmao



/latam/

 

SANTUCHO EDITION

El thread con más copas del mundo™

Ahora que tenemos nuestro propio board, es hora de tener nuestro propio hilo también.

Bienvenidos.
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>>6455
>Altruismo y Caridad
Cosas de liberales. No lo hagas, chico.
>>7128
No entiendo cómo se conecta al comentario anterior pero el problema de los partidos comunistas en LATAM no es "el mensaje" que tienen. son muchos otros mucho mas fundamentales.

Hablando en serio y sin memes: Cual es el PEOR lugar de Argentina en terminos de (combinados estos, mas que nada) :contaminacion, pobreza, problemas clinicos como desnutricion, delincuencia pobres-vs-pobres, edilicios, climaticos etc?
Se me ocurre villa inflamable, Doc sud en general, por ahi puerta de hierro en PBA, despues villas aisladas en Stgo, misiones, usuahia (??) y las "reservas" Wichi, Toba, etc

>>7282
dock sud y por afano, tambien hay partes de jose c paz y hurlingam que no pienso tocar nunca mas, peor que la matanza

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Ayudenme. necesito ventear. si me ayudan y sobrevivo fuera de joda, (y no es transaccion, estoy siendo honesto) me anoto para el CBC de la UBA , busco laburo..quizas, probablemente me meta a militar (a traves de la UBA) y tratando de ayudar en las Listas\Asambles del posible laburo de fabrica…

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>>3046
>>3073
>Pensaste que me iba a quedar de brazos cruzados kukardo?



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There are some new banners at >>212019

Can you guys please add?
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banner request

>>39533
I got the vax for that. Probably need a booster by now. My teacher showing graphic pictures was the most effective abstinence training someone could give.

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I think it’s a good idea to not let reactionary neologisms like “coded “” woke” etc the vague fascist liberal empirical terms creep in we must be aware . They stifle thought and lack a dialectical analysis
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>>2264915
Isnt immanent critique applied to thought forms only?

>>2264918
Not that I'm aware of, Capital by Marx is an immanent critique of capitalism. I'm still learning about dialectics though so I could be off.

>X-coded
>neo-X
>X vibes
aka "not X"

>>2264935
I mean there's some furries you can tell can say the n-word just by their fursona. -coding is very much a thing, just as a design thing, not a theorybuilding thing.

>>2264626
Isnt it just individualist anarchism?



/edu/

 

Okay, let's try this. I would try making this sort of a general threads for a few weeks, then we'd see if they became popular and maybe mods would make /psrg/ a permanent thread.

Thread inteded as a containment place for a discussion of all things religious since I had noticed there was an infestation of a low-quality religious discussion threads recently.

Let's start with the building of a reading list about religion and spirituality from a marxist/general socialist perspective, shall we?
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>>24274
it depends on the way you want to appropiate their concepts. If you just leave them as they are in their autoctonous context, i.e. if you consider them under the EMIC approach, this might be the case, but even still, buddhism is not a homogenous set of dogmas, there are many distinct traditions with many different believes. Pure land buddhism i think could be an example of what you are saying. without considering this essential heterogeneity of what we call buddhism, we, as outsiders, have the privilege of approaching their systems of thought in an ETIC approach (see emic etic distinction) and appropiate the concepts developed by them in the way WE see fit, accomodating them in our own more conceptually advanced western philosophical-scientific outlook. It is always easy to criticize another system, to present it as poor and underdeveloped from the coordinates of our own system, but this is a libidinal trap, a trap through which we believe that we are gaining something from that kind of activity, when as a matter of fact the most productive thing is trying to take whatever advantage we can get from them, and silently and diligently working for our own advancement and ideally that of others and the system we live in.

But in general, the focus of buddhism is awakening, and the cessation of all suffering, and for them it is the case that their "dharma" or "dhamma" is the one and only true means for those ends. So, this goal is compatible in many ways with political practice, although the principle of not increasing general suffering, if approached in a deontological/kantian sort of way, may lead to severe political inaction, but this is not necessarily the case. Nor is it necessarily the case for this principle to be taken as a sort of utilitarianism, since their concept of suffering is not merely quantitative, but qualified: suffering is due to ignorance of the true nature of reality, and this ignorance is in turn a product of the imposture of the ego-construct as our real cognitive form and identity.

I believe many buddhist, especially mahayana (i.e., as of now, east asians) and vajrayana (i.e., tibetans) buddhists, if convinced that politics was a political system that facilitates the genaral goal of enlightement, they would consider it a skillfull mean for the goal of a bodhisattva, as long as that means doesn't degenerate into not achiePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>24288
>if convinced that politics was a political system that facilitates the genaral goal of enlightement

i meant:

<if convinced that COMMUNISM was a political system…

First of all, if you write of religious matters, you can only use a religious framework to properly describe them. Philosophy or science might give answers telling you why religion exists, but religion is only comprehensible when it is a sphere of activity unique to itself. Every religion immediately must contend with every other religion that exists and with religion as a concept. One does not simply start a new religion based on an idea or some piece of technology they think is cool. Every religion necessarily must explain the origin not just of itself but of all things that could be of religious significance. The easiest way to do this is to recognize their origins from other religions directly. There can never be a "clean break" from religion while continuing to reference the same subject matter. So, unless Marxism is a religion for you—maybe it is—you can't speak of a "pure Marxist take" on religion, and Marxism has no real answers to that. It suggests a way religions can be destroyed by ideology, but it was tailor made for the destruction of Christianity which it opposed for reasons not difficult to figure out. Marxism and Christianity are certainly incompatible, but Marxism might be reconciled with other religions, and based on the nature of its claims it has to and attempts to reconcile with religion generally. It cannot claim neutrality, and when speaking of religious matters, there can never be neutral ground. The only "neutral ground" that might exist is the world prior to religion or that was not corrupted in any way by the practice of religion, and everything humans touch is corrupted by religion simply by virtue of humans all being members of societies where religion in one form or another was dominant and invasive. Even the invalid who as a rule are not allowed to join religion are subjected to religion, almost always victimized and shamed by it, but may themselves find in religion some explanation.

What is religion's true function? It is the study of the evil, for whatever purposes that may serve. Religion studies the evil to defend against it, or to summon it. Religion has no other legitimate purpose, and admits readily it cannot answer naturalistic or scientific questions, nor questions rooted in rationality or technology unless they are reframed with some religious purpose. Other things may study the evil, but religion has a unique ability to do this because it alone can approach what "evil" really entails. There is no way by loPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

If you think I'm slagging hard on Christianity in particular, I can tell you the evils of nearly every religion that has any prominence in society, from Islam to the fruity ones like Scientology or the seemingly harmless ones like Raelianism (and our good friend Rael has blood on his hands, they don't tell you that in the brochure). The religions that get anywhere usually entail some sort of horrible sacrifice that spawned their existence and most will practice sacrifice afterwards. Christianity is bizarre in that it suggests that there will be no more sacrifices (this of course is a lie, the true goal is to maximize sacrifices and say they were all wicked sinners and Christ will dispose of them). And of course, Satanism is the oldest religion there is and they just say outright the Dark Lord is the one true god and anything else is hogwash.

You cannot be a proper atheist without being religiously atheist, which means you would have to be for all intents and purposes a nihilist at the end of the day. Not many people have it in them to follow proper atheism to its conclusion. They usually succumb to some faggotry or justify the most shitty behavior as "nature", because they would—without a proper grounding in history to judge this—have nothing to go off but nature. The claim that there is anything "other than nature" begins at the very least as a superstitious claim, and then invites questions of the evil. That's why religion has a unique ability to answer questions of the evil, at least of the means humans have developed thus far. A small number of people are "attuned" in some way to the study of this evil, and they don't have anything "special" about them other than this. A larger number of people, I'd estimate about 15-20% of the human population, are more or less "natural Satanists" who are ruled by an instinct to dominate. They cannot be reformed and will screech like nothing else if you try. It is not really a law of nature that requires this, but you'd have to not just engineer their bodies and create a whole new "system" to remediate these "natural Satanics", but suggest a religion that acknowledges properly what the subject matter of religion generally is, and suggest a society where this study doesn't bring productive life to a grinding halt or destroy all security. That is the only outcome of any "future religion", and it will eventually become the dominant question. Right now, though, there is only the currently dominant religious miliePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>24315
wrong: practices originating in religious contexts can be appropriated from religions, as well as concepts and anything you want, just like any other activity. The issue is making them work, of course. I doubt that a revolutionary will be worse by meditating or being interested, in its own ethical outlook, in the benefit of all sentient beings. Both are things that in this case have come through buddhism, but buddhism does not exhaust their use as items in other systems, other systems can even outcompete buddhism in the use of said items. Now, a lot of items you should not incorporate, rather, you should do an immanent critique, incorporate them as poor moments of your own system and make that work, like marx shows how liberal values are mere bourgeoise ideology. Now, when you got a communist blindly appropriating liberal values, you got a radlib, when you got a communist blindly appropriating christianity, you got a Tolstoy kind of guy. But someone that in his childhood had an interest in christianity and became a communist, but at the same time mantained an ethics that is about the redemption of humanity, or whatever, does not necessarily make his system worse: it depends on how he makes the appropriated items work. By definition, philosophy is the ultimate appropriating activity: while religion cannot take an outside concept freely because it must ideologically stand by its dogmas for x or y historical reasons, philosophy can appropriated everything freely and minmax the conceptual items that are constantly being produced in all other activities. Maybe you think that just because some ideology has configured itself in a certain way and immanently gives some hermeneutical rules to understand it, one has to play by the book and follow said rules just because they say so, but this is not true: you can extract and reconfigure any item, be it a theoretical or practical concept. Maybe you didn't know you could actually do this, but now you know: now go on and explore any system of thought you want and do whatever you want with it. Maybe you think that if this is true everything would just be a frankestein of different items but this is not true because: there are emergent properties, such as those that arise dialectically, which make so that not all configurations are functionally the same if handling the same items. So, not everything works, just like in any oPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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cope as much as you want this is still true
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>>29593
It's always been easier to make games that were heavy on art and light on code. That's basically what point and click adventure games are, at the extreme. You can do the opposite but it's just harder to make the programming part appealing to people, whereas art has inherent appeal even if it was separated from the gameplay.

>>29539
I draw and animate primarily on a smartphone with my finger, and am pretty much entirely self-taught via internet tutorials. If you're really in the position where you don't have a phone and also your hands don't work, I really do feel for you, but otherwise, go cry me a fucking river.

>>29551
>>29552
I draw because it's a hobby that lets me express myself. I'm not the world's greatest artist, but I don't really care. The point isn't to make a pretty picture, the point is to unwind in a way that's more intellectually stimulating than mindlessly scrolling on social media.

>>29591
I'm AI neutral. I'm not going to sperg out every time I see an AI image or anything, and I can definitely see the utility in such a thing, but right now it's just plain not a great tool for creative expression. What I'd like to see going forward is AI tools that give you more direct control. A lot of the early AI stuff looked like it was going that way, I remember there was a program that let you turn 2D drawings into 3D models which was really cool. Whatever happened to that sort of thing? I thought it was really exciting.

>>29595
If you can work a computer you can make art lol. Nobody who is bitching online is in a position to whine about art being difficult. They are just coping with refusing to even try.

>>29568
>>29556
>people whove been drawing for 10 years with literally 0 progress to show for it.
But were they practicing? You can't expect to bang on a piano for 10 years and learn music. There is a formula and a structure for practice and learning.

>>29551
>>29567
Cope, he has a good understanding of composition and value that more than compensates for lack of dexterity.



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<i want to blow up nothingburger gang edition

>Following a deadly terrorist attack in Pahalgam, Kashmir, that resulted in 26 fatalities, India has retaliated with 'Operation Sindoor', targeting nine terrorist camps in Pakistan and Pakistan-occupied territories. This operation marks a significant escalation in the ongoing tensions between the two nations. Pakistan, in response, has heightened its emergency measures and reported shooting down two Indian jets, intensifying the military confrontation. International reactions and calls for peace are noted, amidst growing concerns over regional stability.
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>India will never accept mediation on the Kashmir issue or discuss the matter, and the only item to talk about is Pakistan returning the portion of Kashmir that is in its illegal occupation, government sources on Sunday said in an off-the-record briefing.

>Sources also said India had called Pakistan’s nuclear-deterrence bluff after retaliating against the Pahalgam terrorist attack.


>“We take the nuclear threat seriously, but it cannot serve as cover for Pakistan to do terrorism in our country,” a top government official said.


*SIIIIIIIIIIIIIPPPPPS*

>>2262308
Where does the clip with the kid take place? What province?

friends, haven't been playing close attention but i'm seeing chuds claim that india destroyed some chinese-made air defenses, is it true?

:(

>>2264968
nobody here really knows anything. they just repost tweet screenshots and telegram videos

new thread old friends
>>2264990



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Another radlib myth deboonked. Marx and Engels did talk about the middle class and it means exactly what even non-communists would expect it to mean.

>This middle class — which includes everyone who is a gentleman, i. e., has a decent income without being excessively wealthy-is, however, a middle class only compared with the wealthy nobility and capitalists; in relation to the workers its position is that of an aristocracy


https://wikirouge.net/texts/en/The_Position_of_the_Political_Parties

Incoming cope in 3… 2…
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>>2264094
The working class is anyone who must work to earn a living. Do you seriously think a prostitute is a capitalist? A prostitute is not a prole but a prostitute is typically still working class. The same goes with unemployed people. Also housewives in some places can be working class. Also poor peasants are working class. Working class != Proletarian Vanguard.

>>2263880
>>2264094
Labor aristocracy is used interchangeably with petit-bourgeois or middle-class, though it's used by idiots who are allergic to saying the latter for some reason.

>A prostitute is not a prole but a prostitute is typically still working class.

Sure, but under a communist context working class means proletarian strictly.

>Working class != Proletarian Vanguard.

The vanguard is the most advanced section of the proletariat.

>The same goes with unemployed people.

…How the FUCK is being unemployed working class?

>>2264639
>The vanguard is the most advanced section of the proletariat.

and yet we have had historical situations where the leader of the vanguard party was not proletarian (Mao, Lenin, Castro)

>>2264696
rofl ok except neither mao nor castro had communist programs during and after the revolution

>>2264697
>Mao and Castro weren't Communist! Only Lenin was!
OK he was still a lawyer and middle peasant and professional revolutionary who never did productive wage labor, which was my point.
>Communist programs
Lenin did "war communism" 1918-1921 which was more of a civil-wartime state of emergency measure than communism, then backed off of that after the civil war, then did the NEP which was semi-restoration of capitalism on a temporary basis, and then died of his strokes before the NEP was rolled back under Stalin. I don't think Lenin really had the chance to do "Communist programs". He died too early.

Anyways, it's not a state of affairs to be established. You know that. I know that. Everyobody knows that.



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>>2258230
Could you make a cleaner version of the white red one i while maintaining the text

Pretty please 🥺

I'll pay with labor vouchers




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