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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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>>2578958
Kamala lost.

>>2578958
>calling media "slop" is a "Nazi dogwhistle"
bait or pretending to be retarded. that word even in its current usage is older than twitter itself

>>2578952
no, the correct answer is that they are american women

>>2578969
Kamala was a nazi.
>>2578970
Slop literally originates from goyslop and was outdated lexicon before Nazis brought it back into style by calling everything goyslop. You are being willfully ignorant to deny that. This randomb radlib queer person who claims to be far left is the same kind of Nazi she accuses BE of being, and she is correct.
There has been a complete and total cultural victory for Nazis in the past few years and no one can say otherwise, and I'm tired of it, no one deserves saving anymore, because if they aren't using new gen Nazi terms they're using old ones like patriarchy and homophobia in Africa, everyone is some reactionary piece of shit now, so fuck them, fuck them all.

>>2578464
nobody ever heard of this person before be made a video about them



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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

You must answer the question to make a new thread. See the last field.
The body was too short or empty.
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>>2578883
Corbyn's movement was always a socdem movement. The only reason for communists to pay attention, is there was opportunity to move the Overton window leftwards.

What is happening now, is the political realities of Corbyn's political tendency are being laid bare, causing ideological confusion, and chaos.


I've defended Corbyn in the past [and will do still in historical terms], but it's clear Corbyn's laborism, and ethical socialism has the down sides of historical social democracy's conciliatory attitude to the ruling class. Along with the aristocratic attitude of British parliamentary "socialism".

My neighbourhood gets ruined every few days for the migrant hotel protest/counter-protest. For the whole afternoon the high street is overcome by policemen and vehicles, even undercover police, in a huge operation to keep two dozen people apart hours before and after the event. Many anti-hotel protestors are from other places. They've since started protesting about other things like digital ID and net zero between waxing lyrical about how not racist they are to little avail. I haven't seen any regular faces at either protest side. Sometimes I wish the whole thing would stop and that may have to come from above, which is a worrying thought.

>>2578479
>the 800k who signed up onto the newsletter at the party announcement ended up being barely 50k on the second member portal.
that form had no captcha or no email confirmation link. A large % would have been bots, webcrawlers, etc.

>>2578862
>Didnt go again today.
did delegate-anon do a 360 and walk away? Damn, it's so over.

guy just got on stage and said 'my pronouns are gypsy'. Some autistic trans woman is currently up there bickering and shouting. Has it all been like this?
fuuuuck this clownshow. it has to end. democracy was a mistake.



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Bombs Over Caracas Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/overthrowing-other-peoples-governments-the-master-list
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>>2578711
>>2578965
>implying you can just will yourself to stop being proletarian
>confusing proletarians with middle classers
massive retardation. a few of them might make it, so what, thats how shit works

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>>2578966
>old laborers living on their retirement money are petty bourgeoise
I don't think you have a clue about marxism whatsoever

>>2578973
if they can live on their reserves and welfare without needing to work then they clearly are neither proletarian nor haute bourgeois so that leaves the petit bourgeoisie lol

>invoking marxism without knowing basic shit

classic leftoidpol

>>2578973
Youre so snippy yet wrong. Business owners pay into and reciece social security too, like all labor aristocrat, so you dont know shit about how america works, boy.



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Today begins the presidential and legislative election of the Central American of Honduras. With the left-wing Libre party, wish wishes to change the constitution to an anti-neolib and democratic socialist stance, at odds with the liberal and social conservative neoliberal bloc.
Whilst this is happening, Trump has pardoned a former Honduran president convicted of drug trafficking offences whilst going off about how conveniently the whole Venezuelan military high command is full of alleged drug traffickers. Honduras is of considerable strategic importance to the United States. With several U.S. Army bases situated there. Trump has also gone off about how the electorate must vote away from the Libre "communists" and vote anyone else.

>right wing candidate is called "tito"


>>2578936
>the left-wing Libre party
apparently it's functionally lib party.



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Lets have another pointless discussion thread about these guys, who they were and what they were doing at the time.
I'll start:
>They were CIA pretending to be collaborators who dissapeared soon after…
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everyone pays attention to MONATIO, nobody pays attention to the Sip Song Chau Tai that existed for well over a decade

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>>2575338
excuse me anon i am silly, primary source overdose i guess ┐(´~`;)┌
>he's one of the more left-wing historians who wrote about the KR.
would you say there are more of them that you're familiar with?

>>2575353
thank you, noticed that their wikipedia page has a link to FULRO, the actually CIA-sponsored anti-vietnamese and anti-communist ethnic/religious minority rebels in vietnam and cambodia. also sponsored by earlier sihanouk and lon nol, allegedly china too. nate thayer talked to some of their remains in the 90s, apparently they weren't even aware of their leader's death back in 1975

>When two correspondents visited FULRO’s remote guerrilla headquarters last month, they found an army unaware of the world around them and desperately seeking instructions and resupply from their leadership.

>Col. Ayun and his lieutenants gathered around the reporters, hungrily seeking information. “Please, can you help us find our president, Y’Bham Enuol?” Colonel Ayun asked. “We have been waiting for contact and orders from our president since 1975. Do you know where he is?”
>Neither Ayun nor his troops, who gathered around to meet the first journalists to find them since they fled to the jungles after the American defeat in Indochina in 1975, knew that their leader was executed 17 years before by the Khmer Rouge.
>They fell silent when informed; some wept quietly.
>Situated in a string of five villages carved out of dense forest along a raging river, the group of 407 guerrillas and their families have no access to even the smallest luxury items except from fighters returning from Vietnam.
<https://natethayer.wordpress.com/2013/10/28/vietnam-era-renegade-army-discovered-lighting-the-darkness-fulros-jungle-christians/

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Can you name them all?

>>2578917
Sihanouk, uncle ho, and brother number 1?

>>2578956
close enough, leftmost is Kaysone Phomvihane - Laotian communist [Lao People's Revolutionary Party & Pathet Lao] leader and first president of Lao People's Democratic Republic



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/US-Venezuela war/ #3
>Third Heaven Edition

Previous Thread Archives
#1 https://archive.ph/4Dq3L
#2 https://archive.ph/sntTt

Previous thread: >>2539692

Thread in which we discuss the latest aggression-based-on-lies by the USA against a country which did not attack it.
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>>2578899
That US proxy needs to go


Uhh let's see Paul Allen's SMO but like Latin fusion.

>>2578907
is the US that needs to go tho

>>2578802
Jesus christ. So many words?
Why are rightist memes just walls of text?



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Previous thread: >>2177902

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.
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Is it possible to be anti-imperialist but at the same time not care about nationalism liberalism movements as these have very little to do with socialism?

Where does one find good sources/history books on AES thats isn't very clearly anti-communist brainrot and/or uncritical praise? Having trouble finding shit that isn't one or the other its just idealism and authors trying to make a point about current political debates instead of just conducting material analysis of the past.

>>2573157
IMHO being against imperialism is actually a fairly common belief worldwide much like finding overt racism distasteful. Its why in past natlib movements you'll end up with seemingly unlikely alliances between commies,secular nationalists and religious traditionalists since imperialism is just that shitty and awful. So i'd reckon being anti-imperialist is like being against Zionism,Nazism or the Klan. More of a litmus test for if this person isn't a complete reactoid psycho that likes killing children and rape than a serious measure of there political stance.

>>2564730
Sometimes all I have to do is ask a mfer how much they get payed an hour and than ask em how much money you think you just made the boss in that time.

>>2573157
anything that weakens imperialism has a lot to do with socialism



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I tell you these things because I know you won't believe me, which I find vindictively and contemptuously amusing. So when you ignore me and call me a paranoid-schizophrenic conspiracy theorist I can have the last laugh when all the below and far more happens – as you all are slapped in chains, herded into boxcars, towards your designated FEMA deathcamp or 15-minute SMART City of their choosing (or else… *rifles clicking*), you'll be sobbing and wailing, "Why didn't anyone warn us?! How could this be happening!? Who saw this coming!!" I'll be there in spirit, smirking, hissing in your ears: "Told ya so. You could have stopped this. But you chose to laugh at and insult us insane far-right misinformation super-spreaders and anti-vaxxer bigots and science- and climate-denying experts-distrusters. Don't call it a grave, it's the bed you made."

It's almost here, didn't you know? The coming Obsidian worldwide social credit score and central bank digital currency? No one seems to have a clue all which has been planned for CENTURIES is going to be fully implemented by at most 2030 in events dubbed The Great Reset (formerly known as United Nations Agenda 2030) and possibly the culmination of UN's Kalergi Plan, Tikkan Olam and its planned enslavement of Amalek (You!), and the next stage of Operation Lockstep (covid30?) which will be the real deal and actually lethal where all "anti-vaxxers" will be herded into the FEMA deathcamps (YOUR name is on a FEMA coffin, right now!), which will be the event horizon from which we may never escape technocrat-oligarchy and neo-feudalist medical tyranny where "you will own nothing and you will be happy" and worldwide human population will be artificially capped at half a billion as per the old Georgia Guidestones.

The Fourth Industrial Revolution and The Great Reset are right around the corner, just over the horizon, and you suckers don't have a clue. There's a sucker born every minute – guess who? You! Yes, it's true! Never give a sucker an even break! Perhaps Noah Yuval Harari, Larry Fink, Bill Gates, and Jacob Rothschild are right in naming us poor people "useless eaters" because we're too frightened to name (((them))).

You all have the power to stop it RIGHT NOW – the pain of a revolution isn't nearly as bad as the hell we will get for continuing to obliviously keep sitting in the boiling pot – you all could terminate the coming globalist-technocracy RIGHT NOW in the wPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>Nazism gaining power worldwide
<Clearly this is the fault of those sneaky Judeo-Bolsheviks!
Rightoids are so dumb man.

Some anarchist paranoid schizo came to our org two weeks ago and I listened to them ramble for ten minutes, politely nodding and humoring them just to see if there was anything important buried in their pseudoanalysis. There wasn't.

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>>2578712
you're retarded and shouldn't be humored

>if you ignore me and call me a schizo I win
gg no re

OP is right. I work for FEMA and we're totes going to round up and gas antivaxxers. The average user of this site has nothing to worry about, though. Only chuds are going to be culled.
Viva Obamunism!



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>>2578924
wtf I love ikea now

>>2578924
>making a peace plan is actually killing peace
impressive

Finally maybe Trump can force these two retarded imperialist countries to sign a peace deal and the slaughter of the proles can end.

>>2578946
Trump is one of those imperialist countries anon. The slaughter of proles end only when its not worth the sacrifice, that is, making lotsa moneyyy



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There is nothing anti Marxist antimaterialist or idealistic about this truth. It's material reality. People who deny the presence of literal demons in the capitalist ruling class are no different than those who dismiss Epstein having ties to Mossad as a "conspiracy theory".
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>>317
reddit alert

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yawn

>>323
No, I saw this pic a long time ago.
I think the OP is from 2ch

>>325
This pic is reposted on /pol/ every single hour nufag



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Looking for an independent (OR AT LEAST NOT WESTERN) war news RSS with links that can embed on sites. I'm looking for a news site that can warn about the threat of a nuclear war incoming and that does non-biased war journalism like Patrick Lancaster.

Give me some site recommendations and please no shit like anarchistfederation or some shitty trot "socialist news" site. I want a site that is frequent in news reports and covers war journalism.

RSS feed me PLEASE GIVE ME LINKS

>>2577952
>that can embed on sites
Aren't you asking for an RSS feed? That'd be a different program, or you're asking for opengraph, which is a different protocol, so you want a publication that does RSS and Opengraph. RSS doesn't itself contain opengraph, it'd be in the meta tags of the documents the RSS feed lists off.
>>2577981
Be patient, I don't know a feed with that criterion myself but someone here probably does.

>>2578046
>Aren't you asking for an RSS feed? That'd be a different program, or you're asking for opengraph, which is a different protocol, so you want a publication that does RSS and Opengraph.
An RSS feed for a news site, the site's articles should embed when uploaded onto various social medias when linked broadly speaking. Though any RSS feed for a trustworthy war journalism will do I will just test to see if it works or not.

War news RSS feed anyone????????????????? War news happenings RSS feed?



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>Europoor

It's becoming increasingly clear that the majority of proles in Europe and North America are being brainwashed by their phones into believing immigration is the biggest issue in their countries. I have largely ignored this issue, as I don't really think it matters but then, last night, there was a lumpen riot in Dublin against an IPAS centre in which a foreign national who had been denied asylum and was told to "self-deport" had apparantly raped a 10 year old girl who was under state care. I usually don't believe a lot of the lies told about "migrants" online but this case makes me feel particularly uncomfortable.

It was a clear failure from the neoliberal Irish government and it's institutions that allowed something like this to happen. Why wasn't this man deported immediately after being denied asylum? Too expensive, apparently. Why was this man allowed to be in a situation where he could sexually abuse a child? Why is this man in my country in the first place? Ofc, the Free State institutions are keeping silent on it, pissing off people even more.

So, how do leftists feel about immigration and the current asylum process? Obviously, I understand this wouldn't be an issue if western corps weren't raping the third world but I also think there is a discussion to be had. Are open borders in the current world really working? Would they work post-capitalism? How do you feel about immigration, positively or negatively?
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>>2575635
Even those authoritarian communists argue that its a necessary temporary phase to protect revolution from internal and external counter-revolutionaries. Anyone thinking that real communism is when there is a literal strong man dictatorship and youre a slave to state is mildly put ignorant about this topic.

>>2571366
>"Palestinians are reactionary" the only thing you're educating people about is that 'Marxism is for spiritually Israeli armchair pseuds'
Wrong. In scientific socialism, any violence by a subjugated population without even bourgeois rights under imperialist capitalism is acceptable in order to acquire economic sovereignty. You can see this with Marx accepting the separation of Ireland from England if the alternative is the continuation of the subjugation and exploitation of Irish workers, as long as it is not possible to organize English and Irish workers because of English chauvinism that deceives workers into not acquiring solidarity, then separation is an acceptable alternative so that in the future a socialist federation can be formed with more equal relations between Irish and English, but remembering that the ideal would be to organize English and Irish workers together for a socialist revolution acting together. This already helps to understand the position of defending the self-determination of nations that Lenin wrote.

Now let's start by explaining to you the question of what capitalist imperialism is with Lenin:

<But very brief definitions, although convenient, for they sum up the main points, are nevertheless inadequate, since we have to deduce from them some especially important features of the phenomenon that has to be defined. And so, without forgetting the conditional and relative value of all definitions in general, which can never embrace all the concatenations of a phenomenon in its full development, we must give a definition of imperialism that will include the following five of its basic features:


<(1) the concentration of production and capital has developed to such a high stage that it has created monopolies which play a decisive role in economic life; (2) the merging of bank capital with industrial capital, and the creation, on the basis of this “finance capital,” of a financial oligarchy; (3) the export of capital as distinguished from the export of commodities acquires exceptional importance; (4) the formation of international monopolist capitalist associations which share the world among themselves and (5) the territorial division of the whole world among the biggest capitalist powers is complete
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>>2571366
>I've never once heard a single Marxist podcast talk to their undocumented slaves who actually have the jobs that depicted in the symbol of communism. Marxists have spent more time talking to worthless labor aristocrats like Contrapoints. Its impossible to explain why!

Contrapoints is not a Marxist, therefore it's irrelevant to what I'm writing. Remembering that I am from the so-called global south and I have solidarity with all workers of the world, including those of the so-called "first world," so that the proletariat acquires political supremacy to abolish private property in the dictatorship of the proletariat. Since you are talking about the labor aristocracy, then I have a quote for you from the source with Lenin that demonstrates that you do not know that this labor aristocracy is a small minority group of workers that exists to sabotage the workers' movement and weaken it by serving the bourgeoisie, deceiving other workers, but the victory in the class struggle of the working class also benefits this labor aristocracy that is acting as class traitors, unlike the discourse of resentment against first-world workers that third-worldists have been talking about, equating the interests of first-world workers with capitalist imperialism to create passivity and resentment, thinking that scientific socialism is based on a moralism of feeling pity for third-world workers:

<In a letter to Marx, dated October 7, 1858, Engels wrote: “…The English proletariat is actually becoming more and more bourgeois, so that this most bourgeois of all nations is apparently aiming ultimately at the possession of a bourgeois aristocracy and a bourgeois proletariat alongside the bourgeoisie. For a nation which exploits the whole world this is of course to a certain extent justifiable.” In a letter to Sorge, dated September 21, 1872, Engels informs him that Hales kicked up a big row in the Federal Council of the International and secured a vote of censure on Marx for saying that “the English labour leaders had sold themselves”. Marx wrote to Sorge on August 4, 1874: “As to the urban workers here [in England], it is a pity that the whole pack of leaders did not get into Parliament. This would be the surest way of getting rid of the whole lot.” In a letter to Marx, dated August 11, 188
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Post-the holiday, so I can talk a bit.
>>2574095
>okay, so why should i talk to you if you dont believe in democracy (rule of the people) on a supposedly left-wing board? you dont appear to believe in anything anyway.
Left wing isn't synonymous with democracy. There have been plenty of political movements which style themselves as "democratic" which operate with strictly anti-leftist goals. Bordiga outlines my issues with democracy in a revolutionary context cleanly https://www.marxists.org/archive/bordiga/works/1922/democratic-principle.htm
>is it possible to raise the minimum wage to $1,000,000 an hour? if not, why not?
What relevance does this have? No, but the point is the struggle for higher wages so as to heighten and elucidate the contradiction and conflict between prole and capitalist.
>okay, so again, you are forcing the ultimatum that one must either unconditionally support mass immigration or they are hitler.
Where did I say "unconditional support for mass immigration" once? It seems like you can only strawman my position, either out of a lack of understanding, or purposeful misrepresentation. A person who "unconditionally supports mass immigration" is also not operating with a proper communist mindset, as they are completely missing their role we play and necessity of what must be done.
>does marx say that mass immigration lowers the economic and moral condition of the native working class? yes or no?
And I posted his later developments and clarifications. Would you deny this? I don't think you would apply his standard to any other economist or even philosopher.
>you should know since you said marx was wrong. more lowly deception.
Again, where is the deception. I've been awfully accommodating this entire time for what little you provide.
>because youre a coward who both feigns ignorance but also have an implicit dogma.
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>>2531387
>You can see this argument regularly on 4glow now: communist states didn't have what they call mass migration, the students who came went back to their countries and contributed to their industrial

Obviously not, living there sucked. The Berlin Wall was erected to prevent people fleeing West Berlin



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Alunya Art thread
(Draw or showcase new Alunya art)
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>>5476
pretty gud 🐴
>>5506
ooh new drawfriend. or someone trying a new style
>>5521
>>5522
>>5523
fine sketches

>>5476
now draw her as an uma musume

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>>5476
draw her as a Wild mare

I only made a rough sketch because I didn’t wanna call it too soon because a ground invasion hasn’t started yet, I won’t Finnish this unless Venezuela actually becomes a US puppet state, I hope I wont have Finnish this drawing but right now it’s looking kinda bad.

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>>5532
>Finnishing



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This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators sorted by last name

>Paul Cockshott

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>>2577144
Because the porkies have already organised production extremely efficiently and are continuing to rationalize production.

>>2576710
thanks anon

>>2577144
Anon read some of the archived threads at the top there have already been a ton of proposals on this.

>>2578390
>crashes ever 8 years or so
>extremely efficiently

>>2576720
all porkies are class conscious lol



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EDIÇÃO AJURICABA
"Ajuricaba foi um importante líder dos povos indígenas da Amazônia. Este cacique dos indígenas Manáos liderou as tribos do Rio Negro na guerra contra os colonialistas portugueses na terceira década do século XVIII"
"Preso, ele seria conduzido a Belém para julgamento. Mas, mesmo acorrentado, lançou-se nas águas do Amazonas, para resistir à prisão."
O covil dos webcomunas no Brasil
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>>13997
Tu não devia achar um trabalho ?.

>>13998

A morte é mais tolerável que ser um CLTzinho de bosta igual o jannie deletando esse post.

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>>13991
>Usando "colônia de exploração e povoamento" em pleno 2025

>>13998
Esse cara já admitiu que não trabalha porque é herdeiro, não sei o que caralhos um sujeito desse faz em um fórum de esquerda.

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>>14003
Ele quer financiar o Karl Marx de nossa geração, e está o buscando em todo lugar.



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>55.8% of the respondents say the Communist state itself was also good.

>66.2% of Romanians believe Communist leader Nicolae Ceaușescu was a "GOOD LEADER"


Any opinions?

doesnt matter they are all boomers that will all be dead within 10-20 years

W



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Neuigkeiten

<Unpünktlich wie die Eisenbahn; verspätet auf maroden Strecken zu hohen Preisen: DB-Konzern überbietet jedes Jahr seine Negativrekorde

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503080.versp%C3%A4tungen-bei-der-bahn-unp%C3%BCnktlich-wie-die-eisenbahn.html
<Rot gewinnt; Präsidentsschaftskandidatin in Chile ist von der KP
https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503066.kommunisten-rot-gewinnt.html

<Gideon Levy über Massaker der israelischen Armee an Hungernden in Gaza

https://www.jungewelt.de/artikel/503098.dokumentiert-gideon-levy-%C3%BCber-massaker-der-israelischen-armee-an-hungernden-in-gaza.html

<NATO-Manöver am Niederrhein: Kriegsvorbereitung statt Sicherheit

https://www.rf-news.de/2025/kw27/nato-manoever-am-niederrhein-kriegsvorbereitung-statt-sicherheit

<Parteitag der DKP

https://www.unsere-zeit.de/live-ticker-vom-26-parteitag-der-dkp/
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Wenn man doch ehrlich sind entsprach Hitler einen Normalodeutschen im frühen 20. Jh
>Durchwegs Rassistisch
>Antisemitisch
>Nationalistisch
>Anti-kommunistisch
>Impotent
>Glaube an Veraltetes Weltbild
Hat sich doch nicht viel verändert. Eigentlich ein Wunder dass Stalin meinte die könnten einen Staat regieren lmao.

>>2578792
Auch lustig dass sie ihn als "kommunistisch" darstellen weil er das wort "parteigenossen" benutzt hat. Bin wahrscheinlich nicht der einzige der die ganze zeit auf youtube solche afd-deppen vorgeschlagen bekomme lol

>>2578877
>Glaube an Veraltetes Weltbild
Die Idee von Herrenmenschen, Kolonialismus und Antisemitismus war da noch völlig in Mode. Das Dumme ist wenn Leute glauben die Ideen Hitlers wären ein einzigartiges Übel gewesen, was ein weiteres Mittel für den Westen ist sich von seinen Kolonialverbrechen zu distanzieren.



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Started going over national governments the other night just to se how many could accurately be described as "Fascist" at this point and this is what I came to.
It really is insane how much of the world is run xenophobic thugs enforcing """property rights""" at the barrel of a gun and even more so how basically every "liberal" state on earth outside of Latin America or Southern is trending that way.
It makes me think Lennin was more right then he knew about the final stage of Capitalism being Fascism; only I dont think its going to be limmited to the imperial corps.
Honestly at this point I think almost every nation on earth is going to go fascist eventually and it will only be in the wreckage of the resource wars and climate catastrophe of the 21st century that the world, a century from now, will begin to look for alternatives once the death drive has completely burned itself out..
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>>2578017
I wonder what the maker of this map thinks about the uncolored states (Belize, Zyprus, Luxembourg, the European Microstates, Taiwan, the pacific Island states, Lesotho, Eswatini, …)

Wannabe-fascists? Failed Third-Worldist state?

>>2578426
it wasnt marx who said that lol

>>2578882
>Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.

>>2578885
damn i thought it was all hegel
i stand corrected

>>2578017
Comrade, we find ourselves in the decades where nothing happens. Fascism is on the rise, yes, but it will not take hold of our world until the next great imperialist war does first (roughly 10-15 years left for it). Until then, international communism must reinvent itself, ask every single question a second time and answer them all over again, and prepare to face the storm. It is never over until every last man on this earth has had his blood go cold.



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an sketch of Stalin I did for practice

>>2578251
that's really good

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>>2578733
here anon i made it less wordy




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Living in an housing complex with 20 people and 2 showers, a sense of control is needed, if there was 30 showers, there would be no control needed.

Abundance and public ownership would create less of a need for police. I get that, but really I can't see the abolition of police because some guy will get always get drunk and do stupid shit
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>people will be hecking gooderino if we give them more stuff

Naive as fuck

police is the only thing I agree with MLoids with


Citizen militias brutalize and kill people just like cops do. The CHAZ disaster comes to mind.

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>muh cops
Cops are just the enforcers of the ruling class, if the ruling class is the bourgeoisie they represent their interests against ours, if the ruling class is the proletariat they'll represent our interests, being concerned about the police as an essentially negative thing is libshit. The American police force is particularly bad and militarized however, being something like the third or fourth largest army in the world



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What's some genuine extremists or ultra radical leftist opinions that you think are too radical even for you? I'm genuine curious to know some extremists position.
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>>2578290
mentioning islam but saying nothing bout yiddaism… well well well moshe ben yitzhak lets bomb some kids shall we? when hearing criticism on abrahamic religions without mentioning yidds always assume its a yidd. im denouncing the hadith now go ahead and denounce the talmud

Real communism has never been tried except one time in Russia where it was based but then became cringe.

>le radical
>opinions
Unashamed larper thread.

>>2578457
>communism
>tried
is it a state of affairs to be established or something?

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>>2578454
>>2578290
as expectred the bastard son of abraham is unable to denounce his beloved child rape talmud, either denounce all abrahamic religions or stfu, disgusting child killer apologetic.
picrel was chief rabbi of israel who also called blacks monkeys btw



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He is correct as far as I know. Can any of you actually prove why you think he is wrong?

The body was too short or empty. The body was too short or empty.

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>>2578481
>Abloo bloo Yitzhak Rabin and Ben Gurion blew up the Atlalena and murdered Jooooooos
Cope

Rav Kook is better.

He is who created and popularized the term never again. It's a fascist slogan

Name looks like Mein Kampf. I have no further opinion.

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>>2578481
not listening to fasco yidd ramblings for an hour fuck you fuck all zionists i hope you hang yourself and your neck doesnt break so you suffocate until you die, these cunts are so evil even the israeli government designated them terrorist lmfao



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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2578506
>All the trans and autistic people will be voting Democrat and supporting the Democrats
Get off twitter and actually interact with untwitterized trans people. They're less likely to believe in voting than the average poster here.

>>2578601
>They're less likely to believe in voting than the average poster here.
if only. like sure most trans people are proletarian bc of shit like getting kicked out of their parents house but not all of them are

>>2578247
>>2578320
yeah well welfare has nothing to do with communism

>>2578601
everyone is still gonna vote Democrat because 3 years is not enough time to establish a workers party that can get to that stage.
Maybe some local elections some small socialist parties can get but that's where you start.

>>2575810
Any idiot with a discord account or a minecraft server can "create community", and they'll doubtless create a more meaningful one than "small circle of historical losers licking their wounds over world-historic organizing blunders, relitigating debates from 20 years ago over and over and over again, pausing only for the occasional funeral"

>>2575824
2017 called and wants their take back
Pretty much every idpol stereotype group has drifted leftwards to class-based demands, even if they're naturally still focused on how it benefits their group specifically. The girlboss feminist has been dead for longer than she was alive, and so far as she and all the other idpol bogeymen were ever alive, their existence is the product of capitalists responding to bottom-up pressure for social justice rather than applying top-down machinations of their own free will. A university does land acknowledgements because it's cheaper than giving the land back, yes, but it also does them because someone is demanding they do something. One winds up with a very wrongheaded view of the world if they misinterpret (largely failed) co-option for creation.
(And because it failed, you see the present administrative backlash against all these groups! They gave the proles some carrot stickers for their laptop, that wasn't enough, now they're going to try and beat them down with the stick until they remember their place.)

>>2576279
More than half of Americans have an associates degree or higher, and nearly 40% have a bachelors or higher. This gets even more aggressive as you account for age.
And America's on the lower end. Having a degree is incredibly common thanks to the massive expansion of higher education to cover up youth unemployment, and one of the markers of the fundamental unseriousness of the "serious" left is that they continue to fetishise the aesthetic of the high-school educated factory worker in an economy which has made that stereotype about as relevant as the cowboy.
Indeed, since being more educated generally correlates with being more left-wing, one should see ominous tidings in America's decliPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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>>2578289
Shai Hulud

>>2578623
Yeah on the other hand the KMT has handed out a lot of benefits to rural/indigenous areas and is considered the government which replaced the colonial japanese and developed the country.

>>2577583
Robespierre was based

>>2577119
Did le international left save the USSR?

>>2578511
Just repeating the same bullshit a trillion times won't make it true



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Socialism and communism are not modes of production, they're social orders. The mode of production is capitalism and the next mode of production will be full automation in the transition from semi-automation by the fourth industrial revolution. The feuds and the slave owners and the previous modes of production never did the change consciously and neither did the bourgeois when they brought capitalism, they simply developed as much as they could until they changed, they were not a 200 year movement of trying to consciously enact change, think social darwinism.
Anyway the USSR is the loser and ML failed, Dengism won, when the realpolitik geopolitics and all the blablabla is over and China has won the world it will lead towards full automation.
And you only say full automation is impossible because you misinterpret it, you're like those conservative crackers that say communism isnt possible or its utopian, well too bad you're gonna get fucked in the ass one way or another, sucks for you you wont get to live to see that I'm right.
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>>2530240
Aka why you have to get to socialism first, no? The entire reason I sell ML and AI work is because ML and AI are now the means of production to seize. Before it, at porky command, kills us all.

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>>2530021
Next mode of production will have planned economy done by AI but property rights (and thus social classes) will still exist.

>>2530165
AYN RAND communism aka dangist

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>>2530043
fucking retard that's not how it works kill yourself



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Does anyone else has experience with obvious Steam moderators alt accounts?

it seems to happen so often that users jump into threads instigating others to attack them and then get people banned, this is a known fact.

however what i don't see enough people talking is how these accounts seem to go undetected by moderators if not downright a lot of them have moderators as friends

some of these go as far as to have groups with names like "cabal, cult" and such.

one would think it's just users weaponizing moderation

til you realize these users can go around breaking every single rule without getting banned for months, if at all.

some people claim their accounts have turned into "moderator magnets" in which you can't even engage in any discussion as moderator alt accounts will start to target you hoping you'll give them anything at all they can to stick a ban to you

the more common reason for these bans is that you were being "argumentative or combative"
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>>45104

Internet forums don't have some people's life savings on a chokehold like Steam does

a community ban also keeps you from being able to trade items so if you're one of those people who invest on skins (not me anymore) a community ban could fuck you up bad.

>>45106
then stop answering the LGBT ragebaiters ?

>>45112

i don't

like i said, anything slightly uppitty or out of context even sarcasm will get you in the moderators sights.

i have like 20 clown badges and i have never been banned

>>45116
basado



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What it says on the tin, this applies to Western Leftism as a whole, but particularly American “socialism” can be written off as basically the militant defense of capitalism and Empire

What do I mean? American Leftism almost entirely centers around resurrecting the 90 year old New Deal. That is literally it. Nothing more radical. Nothing less imperial. Hell, usually not even anything less racist! American leftoids do not care about the history of the New Deal, do not care about the contradictions of the New Deal, do not care about the outcome of the New Deal nor the purpose of the New Deal. Unironically all that matters to them is that for nearly a century they have been taught that socialism is when the government does things therefore FDR was a communist. And that’s a good thing. This is unironically what the majority of American leftists believe. I know why they believe these things, but is it possible to break them out of their worship of the Settler Fuhrer (FDR) and his radical program to save capitalism through Americanization and American totalitarianism?
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Because they like it, simple as.

>>2577584
https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/ted-kaczynski-the-system-s-neatest-trick

All of us in modern society are hemmed in by a dense network of rules and regulations. We are at the mercy of large organizations such as corporations, governments, labor unions, universities, churches, and political parties, and consequently we are powerless. As a result of the servitude, the powerlessness, and the other indignities that the System inflicts on us, there is widespread frustration, which leads to an impulse to rebel. And this is where the System plays its neatest trick: Through a brilliant sleight of hand, it turns rebellion to its own advantage.

Many people do not understand the roots of their own frustration, hence their rebellion is directionless. They know that they want to rebel, but they don't know what they want to rebel against. Luckily, the System is able to fill their need by providing them with a list of standard and stereotyped grievances in the name of which to rebel: racism, homophobia, women's issues, poverty, sweatshops…the whole laundry-bag of "activist" issues.

Huge numbers of would-be rebels take the bait. In fighting racism, sexism, etc., etc., they are only doing the System's work for it. In spite of this, they imagine that they are rebelling against the System. How is this possible?

First, 50 years ago the System was not yet committed to equality for black people, women and homosexuals, so that action in favor of these causes really was a form of rebellion. Consequently these causes came to be conventionally regarded as rebel causes. They have retained that status today simply as a matter of tradition; that is, because each rebel generation imitates the preceding generations.

Second, there are still significant numbers of people, as I pointed out earlier, who resist the social changes that the System requires, and some of these people even are authority figures such as cops, judges, or politicians. These resisters provide a target for the would-be rebels, someone for them to rebel against. Commentators like Rush Limbaugh help the process by ranting against the activists: Seeing that they have made someone angry fosters the activists' illusion that they are rebPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

problem with parties in the US is they're basically marketing agencies: they create a set of policies by committee you have to generally follow as a politician for them, and they get ads for you. So you get nonsense policies when you try to do anything communist because marketing people sand it down beyond recognition because they think voters won't want it if it isn't sanded down.

>>2577587
Olaf Palme was the last good socdem

>>2577639
American industry must remain offshored or American militant imperialism will become an even greater existential threat



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>>2578185
so, is this you explaining the difference between value ratios and exchange value ratios, then? or have you given up on that?

>>2578185
>>2578236
read this carefully:
<the common substance that manifests itself in the exchange value of commodities, whenever they are exchanged, is their value. The progress of our investigation will show that exchange value is the only form in which the value of commodities can manifest itself or be expressed […] When, at the beginning of this chapter, we said, in common parlance, that a commodity is both a use value and an exchange value, we were, accurately speaking, wrong. A commodity is a use value or object of utility, and a value. It manifests itself as this two-fold thing, that it is, as soon as its value assumes an independent form – viz., the form of exchange value. It never assumes this form when isolated, but only when placed in a value or exchange relation with another commodity of a different kind. When once we know this, such a mode of expression does no harm; it simply serves as an abbreviation.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch01.htm
so exchange-value is the only mode of expression for the value of commodities. value cannot be expressed outside of this quantitative relationship to marx, which may be represented as a ratio between commodities:
<the ratio of the value of silver to that of gold…
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch03.htm
again, this is all entirely uncontroversial to most.

>>2578085
>How many times does Smith Anon have to read this?
He doesn't read he only lies.

>>2578738
lies about what? 🤔

>>2578085
>>2578738
here are some more resources to help your confusion:
<The prices which obtain as the average of the various rates of profit in the different spheres of production added to the cost-prices of the different spheres of production, constitute the prices of production […] And in the same way the sum of the prices of production of all commodities produced in society — the totality of all branches of production — is equal to the sum of their values.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch09.htm
so, the average price is still reflective of the value given in production, the same as in pre-capitalist relations, and in fact, the total average is equal to the total value. so as marx says, total value = total price, which if you measure as exchange-value, comes to the same conclusion: [Ax = By]. hope this helps. 🙂



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I was born into a whole lot of dominant groups in my society (95+% anglo suburb, never met an open queer person until 18yo, you get the picture).

Being in the intersection of socially-dominant groups, I suspect this affects the range of mainstream in-group politics, since there are plenty of people who want to conserve dominance, and since there is more social power there for propagandists to prey on.

Consider the White family Thanksgiving stereotype, with the racist unkkkle, the progressive/socialist niece, and everything in-between.
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In minority groups, whether it be race, gender/sex, disability, certain jobs, religion, etc., is there more uniformity of politics? Or is it still common to see people spread out across progressive and reactionary positions?
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>>2576234
>is there more uniformity of politics? Or is it still common to see people spread out across progressive and reactionary positions?

More the latter these days. Gets down right post apocalyptic in some cases even.

>>2576234
most social minorities are "left" wing relatively speaking because they know they will be on the wrong end of the gun when it boils down to it, but there are exceptions like black men who turn right wing for anti feminist reasons or minorities who are religiously anti LGBT, or certain minorities who (kinda falsely) think they are assimilated into whiteness like high caste indians who think they can bond with upper middle class anglo christians based on being in the same socio economic circles (usually professional IT/medicine jobs which gives them access to high end suburbs) and think they can bond on shared anti islam/muslim sentiments (EX: the Saajar Entjeti / Kash Patel stereotype of the right winged Indian-american).

>>2578490
>More the latter these days. Gets down right post apocalyptic in some cases even.
Go on…

>>2578499
yo i aint even clicking that why do you save this crap?

>>2578512
That videos not that bad. It's probably racist or misogynist but she's pretty and has one of my favorite body types so therefore it's good

>>2578526
pack it up goonerblud



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Why the fuck does FINANCE make so much money despite not producing anything and therefore being even more parasitic and useless than even normal capitalist companies that make goods and services, its like capitalism in its purest form of just being a machine that turns money into more money with zero social utility.
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>>2578779
Yes, writing a book which is sold as a commodity generates profit for the publisher.

>>2578768
>BTW… that's why even "day trading" is inaccessible to the proletariat: they are either broke or in debt.
Me, and my parents, are all proletarians and have each earned enough money to invest in mutual funds. There are some nice benefits to socdem life.

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>>2578772
>If only Marx had the balls to actually work a proletarian job, maybe his life wouldn't be so fraught and precarious.

but the life of the proletariat IS fraught and precarious, especially in the time/place Marx was writing about them:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1867-c1/ch10.htm

<Dr. Greenhow states that the average duration of life in the pottery districts of Stoke-on-Trent, and Wolstanton is extraordinarily short. Although in the district of Stoke, only 36.6% and in Wolstanton only 30.4% of the adult male population above 20 are employed in the potteries, among the men of that age in the first district more than half, in the second, nearly 2/5 of the whole deaths are the result of pulmonary diseases among the potters. Dr. Boothroyd, a medical practitioner at Hanley, says:


<“Each successive generation of potters is more dwarfed and less robust than the preceding one.”


<In like manner another doctor, Mr. M’Bean:


<“Since he began to practice among the potters 25 years ago, he had observed a marked degeneration especially shown in diminution of stature and breadth.”


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>>2578790
Well today the most immiserated proletariat are the people mining the minerals which end up in your devices. And that's why Lenin wrote extensively about the labor aristocracy in imperial core countries and the need for anti-imperialist solidarity with oppressed nations:

<Obviously, out of such enormous superprofits (since they are obtained over and above the profits which capitalists squeeze out of the workers of their “own” country) it is possible to bribe the labour leaders and the upper stratum of the labour aristocracy. And that is just what the capitalists of the “advanced” countries are doing: they are bribing them in a thousand different ways, direct and indirect, overt and covert.


<This stratum of workers-turned-bourgeois, or the labour aristocracy, who are quite philistine in their mode of life, in the size of their earnings and in their entire outlook, is the principal prop of the Second International, and in our days, the principal social (not military) prop of the bourgeoisie. For they are the real agents of the bourgeoisie in the working-class movement, the labour lieutenants of the capitalist class, real vehicles of reformism and chauvinism. In the civil war between the proletariat and the bourgeoisie they inevitably, and in no small numbers, take the side of the bourgeoisie, the “Versaillese” against the “Communards.”



<Private property based on the labour of the small proprietor, free competition, democracy, all the catchwords with which the capitalists and their press deceive the workers and the peasants are things of the distant past. Capitalism has grown into a world system of colonial oppression and of the financial strangulation of the overwhelming majority of the population of the world by a handful of “advanced” countries. And this “booty” is shared between two or three powerful world plunderers armed to the teeth (America, Great Britain, Japan), who are drawing the whole world into their war over the division of their booty.


- Vladimir Ilyich Lenin, Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism, PREFACE TO THE FRENCH AND GERMAN EDITIONS

<Imperialism is the highest stage of development of capitalism. Capital in the advanced countries has
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Hi Ultraviolet here from the Americans Communist Party.
If you aren't an African child working in a mine then you're a petty borgeoiues barista uber driver faggot and not an actual AMERICAN worker like me, Ultraviolet the gigastreamer.



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