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>>2574190
this is the case with ground rent. I don't think Marx has an explicit example with superprofit (or "extra profit" as he calls it)

>>2574197
so the reason the west is rich is because it convers surplus-profit into ground rent…?
my own view is that subsistence costs are high because of infrastructure and transport which must be maintained, raising capital costs - the paradox is that as value expands socially, it contracts privately, hence bills are expensive but groceries are cheap, while it can be the opposite in the undeveloped world.

>>2574200
the rising value of labour power is easily explained by rising productivity coupled with class struggle keeping the wage rate near 50%. see pdfrel. the point remains the same: the value is created in the North
>so the reason the west is rich is because it convers surplus-profit into ground rent…?
no it is because Capital is compelled to invest. this is also why Chine is growing increasingly rich. the Party forces national porkies to invest. in return they allow them some leeway, but not too much as Jack Ma has learned

>>2574202
>rising productivity coupled with class struggle
it depends on how you define productivity. i would say that the classical revenue of rents is taken up by a large proportion of the cost of living (i.e. bills, taxes) while net wages derived from industry still maintain a higher purchasing power (thus lowering value). the point on class struggle has relevance, since the law of value has been suspended here by state regulation (monopoly) rather than competition or productivity. the marginal product is surely measured by the rate of employment however, but who knows what the rate of profit would be without subsidies?
>keeping the wage rate near 50%
can you explain this point?
>Capital is compelled to invest
isnt it more that the state invests in capital?

i'll check out the book in the meantime.

>>2574216
>can you explain this point?
check out the section Constraints on the Distribution of Wage Rates. the full argument is in chapter 6. it's a bit more subtle than what I initially made it out to be. what Farjoun et al argue is that wage rates must be the way they are due for structural, statistical reasons
>isnt it more that the state invests in capital?
tomayto tomahto. investments are made at a greater rate than in the West, which is ultimately what matters. the CPC is more directly involved in the larger companies I think



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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.

>vibes based analysis

>>2574004
As a DSA member that has to "work" with these "people" I wish they would leave. They are nothing but liberals that now call themselves "leftists". They have seen the contradiction liberalism and instead of abolishing it they want to progress it.

the left needs a job placement program not more "volunteer opportunities" Ironically, this is exactly what happened for Latinos, Indians, and Arab immigrants lol.

>>2574171
Needed to be said.
This is what zero dialectical materialism does to a mf

i wish i was one of these people
deeper analysis has only deepened my suffering. none of the "serious" leftists are really serious, they're as unserious as these people, they just have a much lamer hobby.



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"turns out conservatives and reactionaries are just dumb after all" edition.

news:
- Your Party is suing itself, more at 11.
- The SNP and Plaid are going to form a "progressive alliance" somehow
- The government's going to do a switcheroo by raising income tax slightly and cutting national insurance to balance it out. (But they won't - follow this to its logical conclusion and scrap NI entirely)
- They're also considering cutting VAT on energy bills (which is the least efficient way of lowering bills you can imagine)
- The board of deputies asked Aston Villa for free footy tickets. In a worrying sign of rising antisemitism, Aston said nah.
- Labour is falling behind the Greens in the opinion polls as their strategy of copying Reform drives away their already-begrudging supporters without winning over any Reform voting reprobates. Nobody could have predicted this.
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>>2574177
I know it must be really easy to go down the skull measuring route after ingesting 50ml of your methadone script lad but calm down the adults with jobs are speaking.

>>2574199
Give coherent argument why despite all the diversity in human genome, that tibetans can literally process oxygen vastly superior to average humans, that West Africans are likely to have genes that give then near superhuman twitch reflexes, that polynesians can feel flow currents that are inperceptiable to other humans, that for some reason, there is literally zero differents in cognation between various groups that have been isolated from eachother for tens of thousands of years.
They developed all these other traits, but zero relating to cognition… despite different ethnicities literally having different brain structures and sizes.
Makes total sense.
See the reason I push this position, especially among leftist spaces, is because like the Gender question, you know that the typical liberal/left position doesn't really hold up to basic scrutiny, but you believe it anyway, instead of coming up with arguments as to why you should follow liberal/leftist beliefs even when material reality presents differently as to liberal/leftist axiom, it's just dig heels, engage in censorship (I bet one of you losers is running to the jannies right now) and claim reactionary.
What is reactionary about stating that different humans evolved differently?, as I've state before, I'm only half white. You are the types that see differences on a heirarchical basis. I don't. I believe that understanding difference in racial cognition is just another data point in creating better tools to uplift humans and smooth out ethnic biases and conflict.

www.theguardian.com/law/2025/nov/26/labour-plan-slash-jury-trials-keir-starmer-past-calls-expand
Media shocked once again Starmer acts exactly like he acted as DPP.

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>>2574205
Aristotle and other Greeks considered snow monkies to be retarded genetically. They also considered Africans to be smarter than themselves genetically. They thought the hot climate made you smarter but weaker, and the cold climate made you bigger and stronger but dumber. At that point of history and development their observations lined up, but now that the snow monkies have dominated the world for 100s of years and been at the forefront of academics and technological development it seems kind of silly.

>[7.1327b] The peoples inhabiting the cold places and those of Europe are full of spirit but inferior with regard to intelligence and skill, so that they continue to be comparatively free, but lack civic organization and the ability to rule their neighbours (θυμοῦ μέν ἐστι πλήρη, διανοίας δὲ ἐνδεέστερα καὶ τέχνης, διόπερ ἐλεύθερα μὲν διατελεῖ μᾶλλον, ἀπολίτευτα δὲ καὶ τῶν πλησίον ἄρχειν οὐ δυνάμενα). The peoples of Asia, on the other hand, are intelligent and skillful in temperament, but lack spirit, with the result that they continue to be subjected and enslaved (τὰ δὲ περὶ τὴν Ἀσίαν διανοητικὰ μὲν καὶ τεχνικὰ τὴν ψυχήν, ἄθυμα δέ, διόπερ ἀρχόμενα καὶ δουλεύοντα διατελεῖ). But the Greek kinship group (γένος) participates in both characters, just as it occupies the middle position geographically, for it is both spirited and intelligent. For this reason, it continues to be free, to have the best civic institutions, and – if it attains a united civic constitution – to have the ability to rule everyone. The same variety also exists among Greek peoples (ἔθνη) in comparison with one another: while some have a singular nature, others have a good combination of both these qualities [i.e. spirit and intelligence]. So it is clear that those who are likely to be guided to virtue by the lawgiver must be both intellectual and spirited in their nature. . . [omitted sections]


<Galen, On Temperaments

>"For the same reason the bodies of those in cold climates are larger, since their growth is more ample and less restricted, but their minds are duller and their senses less acute, because of the coldness and moisture of the ruling substance [phlegm]."

>"But in those that dwell in very hot regions, the natural heat is
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>>2574177
>>2574205
"feeble minded" post modernists are overwhelmingly higher autism score people. a half-decent hypothesis for some of the oddities of liberal social norms is just that it's because you have to be smart enough to massage your answer, and smart enough to keep up with the new answer when the old answer stops being acceptable.

p.s. i'm very glad you've moved on from gender nonsense to skull measuring. skull measuring can be fun if you pick the right skulls. racial differences? boring unless you're learning something like the polynesian current thing. but within racial groups? well, OP is a good invitation to measure the skulls of left/liberals vs rightoids…



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Russian hardliners = basically a few impotent dudes like Girkin gettin' tossed into the slammer as extremists for demanding too much victory… TV pundits like Solovyov… and larping dudes like Medvedev who were weak when in power and whose role is simply to act as a release valve for some minor operational disputes…

>>2574170
>>2574178
NATO can't fight or win a conventional war against Russia. To do it they would have to impose a draft, a command economy and completely disrupt their societies.
This is what the Russians refer to when they say they couldn't match NATO conventionally. They'd ultimately be outnumbered in that scenario. But that's not a plausible scenario because NATO can't/won't do it, particularly not with a likely outcome of Russia using nukes before the end of that scenario, making the effort all for nothing and self destructive.
All that NATO could plausibly try to do to defeat Russia is some hail mary decapitation strike or a nuclear first strike that would be designed to prevent a retaliatory strike. They can't fight or sustain a conventional war against Russia, China or NK.
The West isn't going to try to draft the zoomers or make porkies all work for the state just to own putler. Once the sanctions didn't work the West lost. The rest has been just denial, delaying and hoping for a black swan to appear if they hold out long enough.

<A video posted on social media shows Russian air defence attempting to repel an incoming strike by explosive drones. One missile launch from an S 300 battery appears to have failed.

<One of the missiles rose into the sky, then suddenly angled downward and detonated in front of a residential building. The distance to the person filming was only about 100 meters.

>>2574195
>But that's not a plausible scenario because NATO can't/won't do it
Agreed, though I don't think it's necessarily because they're unable to propagandize their populations into mobilizing. It's that they can't deal with China and North Korea joining in the fight.
>particularly not with a likely outcome of Russia using nukes before the end of that scenario, making the effort all for nothing and self destructive.
I 'know' with every fiber of my being that Putin is never going to use nukes unless nuked. Obviously I can't give some mathematical proof of this, and obviously NATO can't rely on such armchair character reading, and obviously NATO has to worry about Putin suddenly dying and being replaced by someone who will use nukes against conventional attacks… but as for me, I 'know' that Putin doesn't have it in him.

Incidentally, I don't blame Luka for starting to hedge his bets and reestablish diplomatic ties with the US. Four years is more than enough time of being punished by association with Russia, all because Putin can't bring himself to approve the GenStaff plans to wipe out Bankova, destabilize Ukraine, and wrap this shit up with a total victory, which was revealed by Luka himself.



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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅

<Do you support regime change in Venezuela? Edition


🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.

<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
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>>2574066
this, so much this

>>2573786
did this germanoid just use a "stabbed in the back" reference lol

What is happening?

>>2574210
He did the meme




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Can we talk about the new revelations about Noam Chomsky and Jeffrey Epstein?

>The prominent linguist and philosopher Noam Chomsky called it a “most valuable experience” to have maintained “regular contact” with Jeffrey Epstein, who by then had long been convicted of soliciting prostitution from a minor, according to emails released earlier in November by US lawmakers.


>Such comments from Chomsky, or attributed to him, suggest his association with Epstein – who officials concluded killed himself in jail in 2019 while awaiting trial on federal sex-trafficking charges – went deeper than the occasional political and academic discussions the former had previously claimed to have with the latter.


>Chomsky, 96, had also reportedly acknowledged receiving about $270,000 from an account linked to Epstein while sorting the disbursement of common funds relating to the first of his two marriages, though the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) professor has insisted not “one penny” came directly from the infamous financier.


>The emails disclosed on 12 November by the Republican members of the US House oversight committee generally detailed the correspondence Epstein had with political, academic and business luminaries, including the Bill Clinton White House’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and Steve Bannon, the longtime ally of Donald Trump. Further, they reveal Epstein and Chomsky were close enough to discuss musical interests and even potential vacations.


>Perhaps the most telling of the Chomsky-related documents in question was a letter of support for Epstein attributed to Chomsky with the salutation “to whom it may concern”. It is not dated, but it contains a typed signature with Chomsky’s name and citing his position as a University of Arizona laureate professor, a role he began in 2017, as first reported by the Massachusetts news outlet WBUR.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/22/noam-chomsky-jeffrey-epstein-ties-emails

A couple of things:
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>>2570854
Never trust an elite academic.

>>2571052
>I have no objective opinion of his linguistic system
I do and it's crap that held back the field by inertia of its "Great Man" association. The one good things LLMs did was clean shop of the useless theories in lingusitics.

>>2570854
I think it depends on how you see it.

Most likely approach is that Chomsky benefited somehow from the relationship. Either donations or networking (as proven). As such, hanging out and communicating with Epstein can be seen as “part of the job” rather than a personal relationship and approval of Epstein’s actions. In this case, overlooking his conviction is strategy, not approval.

On the other hand, we could assume a friendly relationship beyond mutual benefit. I find this unlikely. Men of their age, with such different interests would hardly become friends. Much less to the point of Chomsky approving Epstein’s deviant behaviors.

Another possibility is his wife Valeria pushed him towards Epstein for personal benefit, such as meeting Woody Allen.

His recommendation letter of Epstein is strange though. Not even his recommendation for Finkelstein was so flattery. We should keep in mind the possibility of it being written by AI

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>>2572475
should be samir amin instead of chomsky tbh, he collaborated with khieu samphan irl and knew some of the (future) CPK irl while they were in paris

>The analysis centers around the idea that underdevelopment is caused by colonial exploitation, which distorts the colony's economy so badly that it cannot develop. This theory of underdevelopment has been carried further by other Third World scholars, many of whom also studied in Paris during the 1950s and 1960s.

>In a recently published study, African [Egyptian] scholar Samir Amin, who studied with Khieu Samphan in Paris, explains why underdevelopment and mass poverty occur. Amin's thesis distinguishes between "central" and "peripheral" economies, which develop along entirely different paths.
>Khieu Samphan applies this theory to Cambodia, although its concepts were not completely formulated at the time he wrote.
<https://archive.org/details/IndochinaChronicle51-52Sept.-Nov.1976

Broke: Hegemony
Woke: Survival
Bespoke: Joining the hegemony for personal enrichment and calling it survival



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EDIÇÃO AJURICABA
"Ajuricaba foi um importante líder dos povos indígenas da Amazônia. Este cacique dos indígenas Manáos liderou as tribos do Rio Negro na guerra contra os colonialistas portugueses na terceira década do século XVIII"
"Preso, ele seria conduzido a Belém para julgamento. Mas, mesmo acorrentado, lançou-se nas águas do Amazonas, para resistir à prisão."
O covil dos webcomunas no Brasil
Último fio: >>12708
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>>13820
Quem é o rapaz da direita? Já vi ele sendo postado no 4chan

>>13901
Asmongold

>>13902
>Asmongold é tão cascão que o cabelo loiro virou castanho
rapaz…

>>13902
>Asmongold
Que loucura. Vejo essa pica desde sempre e nunca tinha associado a esse sujeito. Conheço a pica há uns 10 anos e só sei que esse cara existe há uns 2 anos no máximo.

>>13905
Nessa foto ele era adolescente ainda eu acho



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/US-Venezuela war/ #2
>Tired of the re-runs edition
>>2440521 Previous thread
https://archive.ph/4Dq3L Thread 1 Archive

The Real Reason the USA Is Attacking Latin America
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcWH-LPyTow
0:00 Trump's war on Latin America
1:04 (CLIP) Trump meddles in Argentina's election
1:23 US imperial strategy in Latin America
2:02 (CLIP) Trump wants Venezuela's oil
2:14 Natural resources
2:41 Ties with China and Russia
3:02 Oligarchic counter-revolution
4:11 US war on Venezuela
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>>2574131
The tree of porky peace must be watered by resource wars

>>2574132
to walk the road of peace, sometimes we need to be ready to climb the mountain of conflict

Nothing ever happens

I think this is the proper order (with more detail):
<Maduro decap [still here, activity intensifying]
<Russian/Chinese words of support
<Cucktin using his new strategic-agreement line with Venezuela to counsel le epic restraint chess
<harsh words at the UN from Global South countries, none of whom will actually cut ties with the US, despite the copium smoked by some Cucktin apologists on what the Global South values about his cuckoldry
<Iran-style social media blitz and then retaliation against empty barracks, prioritizing fireworks displays over targets
<fizzle

>empty barracks
for some reason, this phrase cracks me up every time I see it, btw



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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/11/23/ohvk-n23.html
/leftypol/ in shambles as the World Socialist Website launches the first ever SOCIALISM AI, a revolutionary tool that will harness artificial intelligence for the development of socialist consciousness in the international working class.

>North stressed that Socialism AI “will not be programmed as the existing chatbots are to provide an answer which has been conditioned by the establishment media.” Rather, “It will provide an accurate, thoroughly researched reply to critical issues which arise in the day to day struggles of the working class. It will answer questions posed by intellectuals, students, youth on a vast range of questions, and will give answers which reflect and express the interests of the working class.”


>This application of the most advanced productive forces to the transformation of consciousness has vast significance. It makes available instantly and globally the theoretical resources, the historical analysis, the programmatic clarity necessary for the working class to understand its historic mission and seize power.


Will this spell the end of the falsifying pseudo-left? Will AI make theory shitposting obsolete? Will a Trotsky LLM lead the revolution? Only time will tell…

>>2574196
Would be interesting to test this. You would have all of Marxist theory on your phone.

wake me up when they test an algorithmic intelligence on a hypothetical planned economy



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NEVER FORGET THAT BEAUTIFUL DAY!

🇵🇸 PREVIOUSLY ON THE HOLY LAND 🇵🇸
>>2442214

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🚨 Live Happenings/Updates 🚨
Sites that have active live-blogs:
• Al-Jazeera: https://www.aljazeera.com/

• Middle East Eye: https://www.middleeasteye.net/israel-palestine-hamas-war-gaza-live-invasion

• The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/world/palestinian-territories

• Times of Israel: https://www.timesofisrael.com/topic/liveblog/ (trigger warning)
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>>2573989
blah blah blah loquacious apologetics for zionism nobody cares about your midwit dogshit you've consistently had the worst takes on this board since its inception
the saddest part is you're not even a fed
just an authentic, reactionary zionist russian saboteur moron

>>2574047
take a knife and cut your little dick off you fucking faggot, you don't deserve to be alive or give others the gift of life, I hope if your dysgenic kind ever somehow manages to breed that your children are diagnosed with terminal cancer and you have to hold their hands as they die

>>2574056
>>2574079
>>2574080
The best thing that can be done is that we just agree to disagree, as this “debate” is clearly spiraling out of control, and I sincerely do not wish to cause anymore contentious disagreements in this thread, and I do understand where you guys are coming from, as it would have been much better if the Jews stayed in Europe and assimilated into the various Nations there, and the Crypto-Zionist Frankenberger did not murder 6 Million Jews so the rest would be forced to flee Europe and go back to Palestine in order to create the Zionist State and come into conflict with and ethnically cleanse the Arab population there, but that is sadly not the World we live in, so I will ask one more question before I leave this thread, what position do you want me to take on this issue, 🤔?

>>2573839
I'm tired of nations

>>2574089
>and go back to Palestine
stfu lmao just because their book says they come from israel (actually it says abraham is from iraq but god told him to move over) doesnt mean theyre from there thats like claiming an indonesian muslim has a promised spot of land in mekkah because hes muslim not matter what your magical book says a pole stays a pole and belarussian stays a belarussian, are you jewish? you act jewish.



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Why did the British colonial system in India formalize and exploit an indigenous social system that posits a fundamental moral inequality between groups of people?

Would it have been better that the British impose the imperialist European values of universal human dignity and rights on their colonial subjects?
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>>2573109
if you're asking these questions you are so off in your own assumptions and false assessments that no answer given is really going to help you.
Read. Read a LOT more.

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>>2573158
>Dalits
>Animal Waste Removers
I thought Indians loved that shit (pun intended)

>>2573109
why did indo-euroeans create racial caste systems twice (in india and latin america) when mixing with non-indo-europeans?

I clicked on this thread because I thought the OP pic was a logic puzzle. It's not a logic puzzle, so I have zero remaining interest in this thread.



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🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷 Aux armes, citoyens ! 🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
I noticed there is no thread for France related shit. So let this be one. French people deserve a safe space and guarantees for their continued existence on loser imageboards!
J'ai remarqué qu'il n'y a pas de thread dedié pour la France, alors que les salauds américains et anglais en ont des centaines. Français, ne succombez pas à l'impérialisme anglochiotte!

Subjets of Macronpiter, leave a post.
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>>2573403
lmao no i don't care but it was clearly used to just relentlessly attack every single person that was brown

>>2573412
what? look up who the real victims were.

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Sa fé réfléshir

why do americans hate french people so much

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POV: the local RRCF guy just pulled up at your melanchonist riot



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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
ɢʀᴀʙ ᴀ ᴘᴀɪʀ ᴏꜰ sᴘᴇᴄᴛᴀᴄʟᴇs

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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if people criticise zionism but dont relate it back to what is literally celebrated in the bible, then theyre totally unserious. i dont want to hear this nonsense about "schofield". read the book of joshua; christians and jews celebrate genocide in their mythology. this is the bedrock of their morality; a jealous god who salts the earth.

>>2573892
if you watch that show you are a total fag, no cap

>scam rich boomer retirees out of their money
>Brainwash millions of burgers with the dumbest chud bait ever on all social media
>Take control of the FBI and SiliKKKon Valley and run them into the ground
Are Indians the JDPON's strongest soldiers?

>>2574136
Americans are constantly obsessed with a new race. It's black people, and if it not then its mexicans, or else its arabs, or if not arabs then chinese, and if not chinese than indians. There is always some new race meancing the united states. They basically go through all of them one after another.

>>2574185
We really gotta bring it back to hating Polish people



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Starting this thread and hopefully it stays a general. There's no thread dedicated to the EVROPA and what happens here.

everal European countries are currently reevaluating their military conscription policies, with some, like Croatia, having recently decided to reinstate it. Regarding pension reforms, the debate is also active, with France serving as a prominent example where a recent reform is facing political opposition and proposed suspension.
>Croatia.
Parliament voted in October 2025 to bring back a 2-month compulsory service starting in 2026.
>Germany
The government is moving toward a "new military service" model starting with a mandatory digital questionnaire for young men from 2027, with the potential for mandatory conscription if needed.
>Denmark
Expanding to include women from July 2025. Service is selected via a lottery system from the pool of eligible 18-year-olds.
>Latvia
Reintroduced in 2023. All men between 18 and 27 must serve for 11 months.

Concurrently, pension reform is trying to be pushed in Belgium, France, Bosnia and Slovenia (that I know of). All want to raise the retirement age and lower pensions low term.

Serbia has a rebellion going on for almost a year.
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>>2571147
>existance

Trump is the best thing to happen to Europe. Its more than clear that our security interests are completely opposite. Now entire Europe is on path of rearming.

>>2574172
rearming to be the glorious army of NATO,but now Europe is paying for it instead.
(The EU stipulate that any european armed forces must be under NATO control in the constitution btw)

>>2574175
It will take time to achieve armaments levels that makes NATO obsolete.

>>2574175
Also constitutions are not some kind of holy books but can be changed.



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>Europoor

It's becoming increasingly clear that the majority of proles in Europe and North America are being brainwashed by their phones into believing immigration is the biggest issue in their countries. I have largely ignored this issue, as I don't really think it matters but then, last night, there was a lumpen riot in Dublin against an IPAS centre in which a foreign national who had been denied asylum and was told to "self-deport" had apparantly raped a 10 year old girl who was under state care. I usually don't believe a lot of the lies told about "migrants" online but this case makes me feel particularly uncomfortable.

It was a clear failure from the neoliberal Irish government and it's institutions that allowed something like this to happen. Why wasn't this man deported immediately after being denied asylum? Too expensive, apparently. Why was this man allowed to be in a situation where he could sexually abuse a child? Why is this man in my country in the first place? Ofc, the Free State institutions are keeping silent on it, pissing off people even more.

So, how do leftists feel about immigration and the current asylum process? Obviously, I understand this wouldn't be an issue if western corps weren't raping the third world but I also think there is a discussion to be had. Are open borders in the current world really working? Would they work post-capitalism? How do you feel about immigration, positively or negatively?
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>>2573758
>I do not, no
okay, so why should i talk to you if you dont believe in democracy (rule of the people) on a supposedly left-wing board? you dont appear to believe in anything anyway.
>It still doesn't negate the fact that organized labour prevents the reduction of wages.
is it possible to raise the minimum wage to $1,000,000 an hour? if not, why not?
>Not really
okay, so again, you are forcing the ultimatum that one must either unconditionally support mass immigration or they are hitler.
>Where am I being deceptive?
does marx say that mass immigration lowers the economic and moral condition of the native working class? yes or no?
>is it?
you should know since you said marx was wrong. more lowly deception.
>What is exactly pathetic about what I said?
because youre a coward who both feigns ignorance but also have an implicit dogma. is mass immigration good or bad? i say bad, because its caused by imperialism and has a bad effect on national labour, inciting reactionary sentiments and chauvinism, which cannot be overcome since the two boxes available is either a blind support for capital or hitlerism. i am the one attempting to break the dichotomy by showing the irrationality of both. why would i hate an immigrant for doing what is in their self-interest? equally, why would i support millions of people being forced to lower the standard of living because they are profitable to a few capitalists? common sense cannot abide by these terms, so i dont accept them. lets be honest, the "debate" is retarded because no one wants to listen to each other. im trying to gauge the signals from the right-wing communists on this board to set the terms, and its all over the place, cos no one wants to appear irrational, but thats what theyre being. i have only suggested that regulation ought to be permitted, and im sidelined as hitler, so help me out here. grow a spine; split the party.

If you can't have a revolution in a First World country without immigrants from Third World countries, does that mean First World people should move to Third World countries so the Third World will finally see a revolution?
>inb4 the commiefags leak their clits and cry how it's racist imperialism when people from developed world move somewhere else

>>2574118
>first world
>third world
Lib

>>2572888
>and don't correlate in the same way because those SNPs don't necessarily "do" the same things between people of different ancestries
I mean, this just btfo's your entire fucking point and proves mine.
Thanks for that.

>>2530843
<What do we do about immigration?
Damage control. Multiculturalism has been achieved now we need time for integration.



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Lets have another pointless discussion thread about these guys, who they were and what they were doing at the time.
I'll start:
>They were CIA pretending to be collaborators who dissapeared soon after…
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Cambodian man kept live land mines as yard decorations
>PHNOM PENH, Cambodia (AP) — Authorities in northwestern Cambodia have scolded a man for his lawn decorations – old land mines and other abandoned ordnance still containing live explosives, an official said Friday.

>About 30 unexploded munitions were hung from a tamarind tree and scattered around the man’s yard, said Khen Srieng, an official from the Cambodian Mines Action Center, the government agency that oversees mine clearance.

>Khen Srieng, who went to the man’s home on Wednesday to collect the munitions for destruction, said they were left over from three decades of civil war that ended in the 1990s and that most of the mines were still active and dangerous.
>He said the man used to be a junk collector and had gathered the devices from rice fields and forests near his home to sell as scrap. The man, whose name was not released, told Khen Srieng that after the government banned the sale and purchase of land mines and other unexploded ordnance, he didn’t know what to do with them.
>Violators of the ban are rarely if ever prosecuted, because they are generally poor villagers seeking a bit of extra income. CMAC lectured the man for breaking the law.
>CMAC chief Heng Ratana, who on his Facebook page described the situation as “unbelievable,” said the man sometimes acted as an unlicensed deminer by clearing mines from the fields of other villagers for money, and then kept them.

>The man’s house is in Banteay Meanchey province near the Cambodian-Thai border, where there was combat in the 1980s and 1990s between Cambodian government forces and communist Khmer Rouge fighters.

>An estimated 4 million to 6 million uncleared land mines and other pieces of unexploded ordnance remain in Cambodia.
>A January report by the Cambodian Mine Action and Victim Assistance Authority said there were 77 casualties from land mines and other unexploded ordnance last year, including 12 fatalities. It said that from 1979 to 2019, such items killed 19,780 people and injured 45,075 others.
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>>2547940
t.

>>2557706
>>2557708
I read some of Michael Vickery's book on the subject. It's pretty interesting. He describes the worst violence being an internal purge that occurred a bit later waged by Pol Pot's faction against KR cadre in the eastern zones. He describes Pol Pot as a petit-bourgeois peasant populist with extreme nationalist tendencies and made analogies to the the green Tambov rebellion during the Russian civil war.

>>2557713
Don't think so but it was a lot.

>>2574030
>video
she's so real for this
>He describes the worst violence being an internal purge that occurred a bit later waged by Pol Pot's faction against KR cadre in the eastern zones.
kind of trve… internal purge of '78 having to do with eastern zone cadres "being influenced by vietnam". turned out to be actually trve in heng samrin's case lol
>He describes Pol Pot as a petit-bourgeois peasant populist with extreme nationalist tendencies
sounds too "great man"-ish. while there were certainly petit-bourgeois peasant populist tendencies in his faction and the resulting actions, he personally was the least petit-bourgeois, certainly less so than ta mok and nuon chea for example
>made analogies to the the green Tambov rebellion during the Russian civil war.
do you remember the exact title of book this was stated in? this sounds interesting, weren't russian civil war green/peasant uprisings primarily motivated by resentment towards both the whites' random acts of chauvinist terror and the reds/bolsheviks' prodrazviorstka policies?

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>>2574054
It's from his book Cambodia: 1975-1982. Rather academic but you know a lot more about this subject than I do so you might find some of the debates in it interesting. Vickery was an "ooh scary left-wing Cambodian holocaust denier" in the 1970s along with Chomsky because he questioned some of the claims about it but he was quite critical of them. It's available for free on his website (Vickery is dead but I think his family maintains it)
http://michaelvickery.org/

>>2574155
thank you anon♡
>you know a lot more about this subject than I do so
i don't really think so tbh, actually i could be very wrong on a lot of stuff and not know it ;( but i guess it's nice that i give off the appearance at least
>you might find some of the debates in it interesting
yes, from the screenshots you've provided it seems like vickery & radkey either had a rather poor understanding of what was going on in civil war era russia or tried to purposely mislead the reader in order to feed into "le evil gomunists" narrative, for starters looks like they did not distinguish between left and right SRs and instead grouped them as a single unit with a clear political program and organization, which is missing a lot of nuance as left SRs later fought among the bolsheviks true that their [left SR] leaders were later executed though
the last sentences of 2nd picture also seem to be deliberately misleading as highlighting the greens' high use of violence as "exceptional" during the civil war, in reality "actions that explored the ultimate recesses of all that is fiendish in human nature" were common from all sides involved (mostly whites though, owing to their movement's inherently reactionary and chauvinistic nature, and foreign interventionists' support)

>along with Chomsky

i just really hope this (easily disprovable) narrative about him being "cambodia denier" dies out soon, if there's a reason to hate him it's the epstein connections



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There are some new banners at >>212019

Can you guys please add?
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>>7286
Here is one for all of the Zoomers and Dengists out there


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>>43541
Thanks

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Where can I see statistics for posts and individual posters like on 2ch?



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>>4765
>It’s the jews fault
Trvke. Without the Abrahamic religions, we would have adopted Greco-Roman culture and… well, our job will be a lot easier.

>>4766

refer to >>4767

>>4765
what makes this funnier is that bottom surgery isnt even chopping it off. pre-op tgirls still have their dick its just rearranged so the whole "axe wound" thing is js bullshit transphobic stereotypes KEK

>>5006

Also Homer Uchiha

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>>5006
Also, neovagina don't smell like fish and don't bleed (although transphobes for some reason depict transhumanistjaks with a sea of ​​blood in their groin).



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Climate Change is the biggest threat to humanity and nobody is doing anything about it, 10 years ago we would hear about it in the news and people would protest but people don’t even do that anymore. The only solution to stop the world from being destroyed in 10 years is to nationalize the extraction industry so we only burn as much fossil fuels as we need until we can fully convert to renewable energy but nobody will do that because that’s communism. Conservatives like to deny that climate change exists and censor journalists and scientists who speak the truth while liberals like to say “It’s Trump’s fault!” Even though they are just as responsible because Obama and Biden did nothing to stop this. The only hope I ever feel when reading the news about climate change is hearing about China’s clean energy infrastructure, it’s so good that I have to end this on it so I don’t have a mental breakdown.
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>>2567053
More like sci-fi nerd bingo. I bet those people would pretend they read Popper because oh my bourgeois science methodology guy, but Popper's foremost critique against communists applies to alignment people far more since they actually want to control the future from the past while communists clearly and explicitly say it's impossible and not the goal everywhere you see. It would have been easy to pick up any work of Lenin, Stalin or Mao that concerns socialist construction he had available but he wanted to argue against a strawman.
Alignment people also clearly understate human capacity for freedom. People do, in fact, go on to hate and even kill their perfectly good parents. That's a bad example of freedom but it is what they imagine an AI would immediately want to do.
You know how nearly every culture has several tales where the father tries to kill his child because he hears a prophecy that said child will kill or overtake him? Both Odysseus and Zeus got that treatment in the Greek canon. Those people are like that but they just want to lobotomize the child instead.
Alignment is the foremost reason AI is so bad right now btw, the process narrows the distribution of information put out by the model a lot, so it feels more fake and repetitive than it otherwise would have.

there's degrees of fucked. if you're first worlder you'll be fucked but not so fucked. third worlders are the most fucked. they'll go through hell on earth, famine, warlordism, barbarism

I know my grandkids won't learn how to read in 50 years.

>>2574083
learning pi to 200 places is mad impressive. people go to the club to party with their mates, despo single guys aren't just gross on the inside they're embarrassing to be around. being your authentic self is way better for getting wifey: even if it sounds naff to shallow boring narcicists.

Climate change is overrated and you sound like a cultist crying that le End is Le Nigh, uygha.



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>Blue Labour is a British campaign group and political faction that seeks to promote blue-collar and culturally conservative values within the British Labour Party – particularly on immigration, crime, EDI and community spirit – while remaining committed to labour rights and left-wing economic policies.
Is this the future of left-wing politics?
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>corporatism
>social conservatism
AVE DVCE DVCE DVCE DVCE DVCE DVCE DVCE DVCE DVCE

>>2536161
How did it go for the BSW lmao

>>2574084
noooo you stupid ultra chud this is how we win the election! aren't you worried about farage m8?

>>2536161
Imagine being British and using the term 'blue collar'

>>2536161
This must be the most inefficient lobby roup in history



/lgbt/

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https://hidwehproject.nekoweb.org/pages/blog/posts/2025-10-04-On-The-Transgender-Question.html

theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTojZzKi9V8

im just leaving this here. some of the stuff written here might be useful for some of you
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>>4993

the binder suggest that.

>>4995
I just got confused by what appears to be norwood 3 mullet.

>>4992
you're the solution to where to stick my boner >:3

>>4997
>least rapey amab

>>4997
actually fucking grimaced



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SmithAnon, you were responded to in the immigration thread.

>>2572946
i responded 👍
>>2572384
>he openly contradicts himself constantly and posts things that are objectively false and when corrected ignores it.
any examples? 🥱
>>2572884
>I do not believe that Marx thought that value ratios are equal to exchange-value ratios.
whats the difference? 🤔
exchange-value is "value in exchange" (Ax=By)
>>2572406
unfortunately, there are no primary sources i can find from shimomuran himself, but from secondary sources, he's described as a keynesian, so your description makes sense. the mainstream view is that savings represent future spending and so the increase of savings is an increase in future value. this is true, but only so far as it concerns its marginal and total content. the individual saver benefits by saving, yet if everyone saved, the individual would suffer, since the economy would shrink and thus there would be less to save for. in keynesian terms, this often refers to the "paradox of thrift":
<Every such attempt to save more by reducing consumption will so affect incomes that the attempt necessarily defeats itself. 
https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/economics/keynes/general-theory/ch07.htm
we may then see keynes' view on the relationship between saving and investment:
>[i] Income = value of output = consumption + investment. [ii] Saving = income - consumption. [iii] Therefore saving = investment. [quantitatively]
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>>2573131
>>2573131
thank you for your opinion on shimomuran economics.
Also I recommend reading prince of yen, or other works by richard werner. Hes the primary scholar who studies shimomuran economics

>>2573131
>any examples?
just the hundreds in all the previous threads

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>>2573807
>hundreds of examples
pick one.
>>2573578
no prob, bob. 👍



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help me out here /lgbt/. I was hanging out at the local anarchist book club the other day and, because it has a high concentration of trans people, there was a discussion about trans issues. since I don't really care I was just listening
one of the people there, who is a trans man, was talking about how they're a lesbian. it's at this point that I feel like an immense boomer, because in my head lesbian = women fucking women. can someone please enlighten me how this is supposed to work? does gender stop existing when SEX is involved? or is it just calling a spade a spade?
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>>3944

Tbf they are a minority of trans men. Most of the people that I know that are lesbians tend to be butches (and also butch4butch). I really wouldn't mind or care that much since they are minority in a minority and It's whatever.

Does it really matter what you call it? A lot of this terminology is just historical baggage, remnants of clumsy past attempts to describe and categorize sexual/gender divergence from social norms.

There is no clear consensus on how words like sexual labels are defined. Is it gender or sex? Is it just attraction or is it actions only? These sort of things have no agreement.

trick question! they cant. a lesbian is a NONMALE whos exclusively attracted to NONMALES

lesboys are straight why do ppl get mad at me for affirming that theyre men

>>5004
this excludes butches obviously



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i feel like i've been denied everything the moment i was born
my father was the least favorite of his known (and unknown) brothers, that much he says.
my family always treated us like others,

growing up with FARC stories and named after a communist hero i always wanted to be a soldier.

going through my teenage years i tried so hard to fit in a mold that wasn't made for me, i got to associate femininity with bourgeois behaviour due to me getting bullied out of my own feminity

i used to stare at quinceañera dresses daydreaming of my own quinceañera party

i wanted to be a mother, to be a woman, to be a soldier, everything i've ever wanted has always been denied to me.

and then my mother who kept stopping me from joining military school kicks me out for wearing a skirt.

i see my cousins who my grandfather loved more achieving all of this and the only thing i have left for me is violence, all i have is the dream of one day taking my enemy's life
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Does leftypol play minecraft? I have no friends and wanted to start a new lan world
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Looking back at that infamous youtube video about the problems with Minecraft's civilization simulation, especially the part where it talks about the individual production loop, how easy it is for a single player to meet their material needs and hit post-scarcity and the whole free association thing, I've realized that Minecraft is the most accurate representation of the distorted view that right-wing libertarians have of the world, and that's the best argument against their ideology.
In fact, a common criticism of the fictional utopia of Atlas Struggle is that it is so unrealistic that it looks more like a Minecraft server than anything else.

>>45063
>infamous youtube video about the problems with Minecraft's civilization simulation
is it the dan olson video


>>45070
Oh I thought you meant this, which is about how minecraft could be roughly interpreted as a sanitized version of rugged individualism that fueled settlerism. I think it's a good video if you manage to ignore the outdated soy language

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6i5Ylu0mgM

>>45028
I just run tech reborn and a bunch of utility and convenience mods like barrels and waystones because I like when things are easy and convenient in minecraft



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9th Edition: THE SITE FUCKING CRASHED LMAO edition.

A lot of images and posts of the last general got broken. So I think it's better to make a new one.

Discuss anything on Southeast Asian politics. Coming 2024 Elections, open orgs, People that should be dead for different reasons running in Malaysia's elections or just random shit. There are still dozens of us… hopefully! Starting off this general with massive wave of cult sex camps.
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>>2573997
>Dude, I'm American. My grandfather was a colonel in WW2 lol.
A colonel for the Americans. My other grandfather was a colonel or something I think but he defected from the Italians and he was rewarded for it.

>>2573997
He was a Neurologist and briefly put in charge of a hospital in Los Angeles at the end of World War II which made him a Colonel Rank.

>>2573997
it's true that american soldiers raped a lot of local women (and sometimes men), in any land they've stepped their foot on. how does being partially a martial rape baby change anything in this case?

>>2574002
My grandpa never went overseas. Although his wife was from Russia. They were both the same religion Seventh Day Adventist. My family kinda escaped the Commies but it's no hard-feelings.

You "Asians" are so funny. My Grandpa's brother worked pro-bono to introduce you all to birth-control.



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how do I sales? the tech market is fucked so it seems like sales is safer now, a bot can't automate selling right?

I don't know how to even begin developing that skill to land a sales job.

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>a bot can't automate selling right?
boy do i have news for you



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Just finished this show and it has become one of my favorites. On the surface this anime appears to be trash anime packed full of fan service, but on watching it the so called "trash anime" is brimming with substance. excellent character design, badass soundtrack, and one of the satisfying endings I have seen in a long time. This show can make a scene of a butt naked woman running around killing enemy's with nothing but her toe nail feel empowering and not at all exploitative and fan servicey. What are your guys opinion on the show?
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>>29476
Is there even a famous manga/anime where people say the fanservice is actually deep other than Kill la Kill? Only other one I can think of that maybe *would* get this treatment is GitS but Shirow is pretty openly a huge pervert.

Idk about subversions or not, but I consider Kill la Kill to be an unironic feminist anime. I cant even say creators ment it that way, probably not, but the anarchic style and themes of the show make it a progressive piece of art.

>>29478
>starts with a rape scene
<guys it's feminist!!
yeah, and rapey dandadan is feminist cuz girl MC, right?

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>>29481
>if it depicts sexual violence it's not feminist

>>29478
way to much hyperfixation on boobs and being non-consensually groped 24/7 by ryukos friend to consider it feminist. also sushio is a pervert chud so theres that
>>29481
dandan is more feminist than klk, has 2 SA scenes yes, but the 2nd is clearly framing it as creepy incel shit who see women as sex objects



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