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im a socdem but a very left one ive read lots of marx and i agree w a lot of the economic ideas and i would be very naice to the communists can i pls stay
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>>2573244
You sure know nothing about fascists

People will call you a fascist for being a commie-friendly socdem then ignore that you can post with a nazi flag on here LOL

kys

>>2572569
>can i pls stay
Social democracy fails because these radlib nerds who "read lots of Marx" are like children who think they can just rationally convince their parents to quit their jobs so they can live in Disneyland 24/7. Capitalists will simply try to accumulate more bourgeois property ownership to extract more rents, get real

>>2580131
>liberate the capitalists of your nation
liberalism is historically progressive if you live in a feudal system with monarchy who hoard wealth instead of doing the Marx commodity cycle of re-investing to buy new industrial technology and so on. Social democracy for Lenin was revolutionary, but its a joke for the PMC art and culture critic Marxists in Jeffrey Epstein's home New York City

Only if you merge with us when the time comes



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how long until zolonsko resigns

Nah actually you know what? No kid in the world should go without watching SpongeBob, every kid on every continent should all be watching Nickelodeon religiously instead of being brainwashed into not doing that

>>2583454
Whats the difference between spongebob and north korean furry animation?

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>>2583458
spongebob has no imperialist furry waifus in need of correction

>>2583462
Spongebob is a comedy (tragedy) of capitalist existence. It is inherently anti capitalist, though not pro communist. So it can be reactionary in anticapitalist sense perhaps.



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>>2583437
>>2583435
>>2583303
What are some necessarily left-wing positions?
Workers rights? Co-opted by the Nazis.
LGBT rights? Co-opted by liberal zionism.
Anti-racism? Co-opted by NATO.
Anti-fascism? Co-opted by liberals.
In fact I think anti-imperialism is one of the hardest to co-opt, they tried with Ukraine but the left wing of capital was unable to sell the Gaza genocide and Kamala lost.

>>2583446
>positions
That is very undialectical.

>>2583287
>”The ACP is to the left of the CPUSA on imperialism”
lol
We’ve been arguing nonstop against intervention in Venezuela, we’ve been saying it’s a war for oil on People’s World and our website. Only thing is that some dummies on here see anti imperialism as an aesthetic category so they judge solely on the “harshness” of language—again, this is literally the phrase-mongering Lenin talked about.

>>2583446
In reality there is no left right dichotomy. The argument instead should be imperialism is not strictly a communist or marxist ideal. The Puerto Ricans for example could be both nationalist and anti-imperialist at the same time without contradiction because they exist under the thumb of the United states

>>2583452
That's just bourgeois pacifism, man. Probably some porkies disagree about doing war now on venezuela.



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Opinion of Nick Land(CCRU time)/Deleuze?Are they too schizo? Also opinion on Dugin/Nick land(Atlantism vs Eurasianism). I think they are greatest philosophers and they were not clear to everyone.
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>>2582299
if marx is hegel upside down deleuze is just marx inside out. he doesn't actually overcome dialectics he just replaces negativity with generative novelty. its essentially the same frame work from the perspective of difference instead of the absolute. if you read difference and repetition he basically just explains hegel and then does a zizek and goes ah yes but what if the opposite! for me the middle of d&r was essential to understanding marx+hegel and even lenin+mao but thats mostly because of all the shit "summaries" that exist of dialectics

its interesting that this whole chain is just misreadings of misinterpretations and both marx and deleuze imo are actually just reasserting a hegel that doesn't privilege one or the other and reframes the dialectic as both/and from translators and professors that neutered his original text, "hegel is an idealist" isn't really true because for him the ideal(not idea) is the material world, but hes still pretty bourgeois so marx's addition is still important

>>2583051
>I wouldn't dream of writing to another language group without using AI to check my grammar and to help me improve my own comprehension of their language.

i am also a ESL and my grammar is very flawed. although everybody in this thread understood what OP is asking about. we don't need perfect grammar, because we are perfectly able to extrapolate meaning even from mumbo jumbo.

>>2583210
why does everything have to revolve around dialectics?

>>2582119
This is a post left thread.

Mods, ra- i mean move this thread to /dead/, NOW!



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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin

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>>2583117
Everyone (Yes EVERYONE) does the first one because we (Yes WE) are all NEETS who hate human contact and are afraid but will clown on them for being based.

>>2583378
>muh national ethnic humiliation

>>2583169
Any luck he'll come down with a spot of the old Kirk Neck.

>>2582811
Was it you, anon? Be honest.

>>2583432
>we (Yes WE) are all NEETS who hate human contact and are afraid
YWNBAL



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>>2583389
China will crack down on them the same way they cracked down on lie down and whatever else crap. No pretend work allowed

>>2583389
Wtf is pretend work? How does that work? If there is discipline and wage then it is work.

>>2583448
Go to a western service economy and find out

>>2583449
So it is a work then.

China is in phase D of capitalism as described by Engels in Anti-Duhring (didnt read but trust me bro).



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Today begins the presidential and legislative election of the Central American of Honduras. With the left-wing Libre party, wish wishes to change the constitution to an anti-neolib and democratic socialist stance, at odds with the liberal and social conservative neoliberal bloc.
Whilst this is happening, Trump has pardoned a former Honduran president convicted of drug trafficking offences whilst going off about how conveniently the whole Venezuelan military high command is full of alleged drug traffickers. Honduras is of considerable strategic importance to the United States. With several U.S. Army bases situated there. Trump has also gone off about how the electorate must vote away from the Libre "communists" and vote anyone else.
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>>2579848
colour me surprise

>>2579848
Batista 2.0

>>2579848
I have not been paying attention to this shit at all.
What the fuck do you mean they voted for the narco party.

>>2583145
Basically the party is known for being the standard "christian traditionalist" neoliberal bullshit party that has leader who litterally were envolved in massive drug trafficking operations and are crittically with the narcos. They were massively involved in a coup that toppled down the centre-left goverment by the party mentioned in the thread by occupying with "private militias". I have honduran friends and what they pretty much told me about is that these private militias are more powerful and big than the goverment itself and are obviously owned by the oligarchs of the country.

>>2583145
America is threatening to pull all aid if they vote for the socialists so they're voting for the narcs
Also very obvious corruption.



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EDIÇÃO AJURICABA
"Ajuricaba foi um importante líder dos povos indígenas da Amazônia. Este cacique dos indígenas Manáos liderou as tribos do Rio Negro na guerra contra os colonialistas portugueses na terceira década do século XVIII"
"Preso, ele seria conduzido a Belém para julgamento. Mas, mesmo acorrentado, lançou-se nas águas do Amazonas, para resistir à prisão."
O covil dos webcomunas no Brasil
Último fio: >>12708
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>>14157
Estive pesquisando sobre embarcados e parece ser uma boa opção, obrigado pela sugestão. Eu já conhecia a EFOMM, mas não conhecia os concursos da Petrobras, o curso técnico complica um pouco, mas eu acho que da para fazer, até ouvi falar de gente que faz o curso técnico depois de fazer o concurso. Eu tenho mais medo de que algum entreguista venda a Petrobras em um futuro não tão distante.
>>14164
>eu consinto
>eu também
>eu não

>>14171
Perdi

>>14170
Na minha bolha de classe média, praticamente todo mundo é de esquerda ou "apolítico". Todo mundo que se profere "de direita" acaba se mostrando um bitolado que repele todo mundo a sua volta.

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E incrivel como eu buscava validação e amizade em uma pessoa, e essa mesma pessoa, mesmo demonstrando nenhum interesse, ainda me mantia por perto, mas me abusava e dersespeitava eu verbalmente, esta mesma pessoa vem com outra pessoa que ela nunca desrespeita, me achusa de encarar ela por mais de 5 minutos, engaga num capacitismo absurdo dizendo que eu não posso me blindar com minha condição como autista, eu peço desculpas mesmo não sabendo e reconhecendo as acusações, e quando peço ajuda pra uma pessoa de confianca (minha melhor amiga, ela tambem ja suspeitava um semestre atras) que me acolhe e me isolo do resto da turma durante o dia pra me defender, elo vai nessa mesma pessoa que e minha amiga e fala que eu sou um pevertido obsecado por ela quando eu justamente corto relações e peço ajuda.
Essa gente se diz comunista, faz parte de organizações do centro academico que eu tambem faço, mas tratam as pessoas como a mais dismissiva, justificam seu intelectualismo e preconceito dizendo que "são mais inteligentes" e justificam falando que e a "personalidade unica que deveria respeitar delo"
(elo e não binaria)

elo nunca desrespeita*
um pequeno erro consertado



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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

You must answer the question to make a new thread. See the last field.
The body was too short or empty.
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>>2583392
Yeah but lets be real, very exploitable.

>>2583148
Sex, dating, celeb slop
Tbh a comedy targeting communists is actually pretty consistent for a guy producing petit-bourgeois interest television lmao

Presumably his next show will be “Help! hubby got me an Evoque but my friend has a Velar!”, whether that’s a comedy or a tragidrama, well that’s up to his creative mind

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/snooker/articles/c997p57nrv2o
Chinaflags can't stop dominating /brit/

>>2583407
I remember everyone saying Chiha was going to become dominant in the snooker 20 years ago, maybe eventually, but still didn't happen yet though.

watched the new adam curtis series and I'm demoralised again



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Why is there basically no leftist anti-war movement? Seriously, among reddit tier leftoids basically no one cares about Trump's terroristic mass murder campaign against fishermen. It's almost surreal. What the fuck happpened?
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>>2583318
>>2583330
I get your frustration but Engels basically said the same about Serbs and other slavs and he was a lot more edgy about it.
The political system American Democrats tried to build over the last few decades is similar to the political system of Austria-Hungary in that minorities are supposed to be the most loyal to the ruling class, see black people voting for establishment democrats more than other races. Many of the politically active gay people on the English-speaking internet also basically fall in line with the pinkwashing because they think it's their way to acceptance. It won't be remembered as a proud moment, it is dumb, but it is dumb that happened before and to far more serious and influential people.

There basically is no point. Honestly unless the Left can seize political power, you ain't gonna do shit to stop Imperialism.
2003 saw the biggest protests in history and did jack fucking shit to stop the Imperial war machine.

>>2583330
>you're saying an entire demographic did that, you are joining in with the scapegoating I'm complaining about
there are radical queers, but in that moment everyone associated queers with white liberal queers, they were in the media, they had prominent positions in the superstructure, and they got on the TV and spread libtard lies. they also got IR degrees, joined western NGOs, and participated in student politics, putting them in the position to be some of the most insufferable people I've ever met.

>that's not faaaaaaaaiiiiiirrrrr

you're over preoccupied with what's fair, what's true, what's morally correct. but you asked why. when we deal with ideology, perception, propaganda, emotion, that shit doesn't make any sense. people, especially taken en masse are extremely irrational.

>Obama himself got called a "kenyan muslim communist" by these reactionaries whose children rebranded themselves as "anti imperialist conservatives."

>queers somehow get singled out as "uniquely" imperialist
>"the gay liberal imperialism"… was a product of a BOURGEOIS IMPERIALIST GOVERNMENT
absolutely. but here's the rub: you can't expect people without political education to understand the distinction, and it's silly to take the position that _western_ or _liberal_ queers with jobs in the superstructure are an oppressed minority.

the discussion about gay rights in communist countries or oppressed nations always skirts the pink revolution in cuba, and instead zeroes in on poor or underdeveloped nations. I'm tired of repeating it but the best thing that could happen to gay people in the third world is stop bombing them, stop forcing them into poverty, stop subjecting them to regime change.

>>2582927
"Anti-war" movements were always bourgeois and reactionary. The loudest voices in those protests were always liberal pacifists and self-centered workers who want the benefits of empire with no drawbacks.

The left wasn't "anti-war" during Vietnam, they were pro-North Vietnam and cheering for America's defeat. The correct communist position is to be agnostic or critically supportive towards wars, to the extent that they lead to the defeat of reactionary powers or civil war/revolution in the imperial core.

>>2583060
this must go hard if you are 19



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>Just centralise the whole decentralised internet under like three critical providers, bro. what could possibly go wrong. It's brings economy of scale, bro.
How do socialists answer to this?
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>>31750
>do not support le small services
>"REEEEEEE CORPORATES TAKING THE DATA I UPLOADED MYSELF!!! GOOGLE SPYING!!! FACEGHEY READING MY CHATS!!! SAVE ME SOMEONE!!"

>>31750
> central planning is the same as central infrastructure.

Absolute braindead take, bravo

socialism doesn't require things be centralized, and communication (including the internet) should be free and decentralized

>>31738
>>31753
>>31757
>whats le socialist solution to irrelevant nerd shit?
communism has nothing to do with fucking web infrastructure buds, stop pretending its about alleviating every little fucking problem of capitalism

>>31762
nah

>>31768
lmfao complaining about le monopolies is 100% petit bourgeois shit i mean look at this shit bruh >>31823

>>31750
Only good post



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Thread №2

Переможный, переговорный, пятнадцатотравневый.

Продолжаем трястись и ждать мобку.
Лолируем с красных фашистов, пыняславов и чучхеисов - вместе.
Переезжаем в тюмень, так как там нефтяная мекка и все жрут черную икру поварешками.
Левый поворот путина будет… надо только подождать… еще лет двадцать.
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>Раскулачивание плоха >:(

>>2573816
АНАЛитическая пидоросня

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Берем?

>>2573816
Насчет потреблядства.
1. Там был вопрос про экологию в том числе. И говорить: ну, мы не за аскетизм и Маркс выступал против этого… в очках мужик верно в конце высказался, смотрел вчера и уже не помню.
2. вопрос еще в том, что от этого зависит сколько нужно работать по времени. И мне кажется, что если кто-то хочет быть потреблядью, ок. Но у меня должна быть возможность работать меньше. Он хочет, пусть и работает сколько ему нужно. Мне кажется такой ответ гораздо точнее и прощее, если кроме меня с этим кто-то еще согласен. Особенно учитвая, что сейчас нет возможности работать меньше.
3. и это не простой вопрос. Не про аскетизм.. Есть инженерные подходы: должно просто и понятно, тип KISS. И т.п.
4. потреблядство, это не потому что маркетинг, ну или не всегда.

>>2583369
А, еще: вопрос, можно ли работать меньше? Но ведь это вопрос не будущего, он сейчас стоит.

А вот в будущем; а вот люди изменятся; ..

Если ты боишься сказать: будет что-то вроде права работать не более 4 ч в день, а кто хочет, пусть больше работает. То тем самым ты говоришь, что принуждение к труду остается даже там, где труд не производит необходимые вещи.



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Togashi might aswell have given enough on coherent nen scaling with post rose meruem and adult gon. The nen abilities were the worst addition to the system since togashi never clarified actual rules to them so we got people pulling stuff like phasing through objects or turning into vehicles of all things. Then there’s the moronic decision to make the chimera ants sympathetic by giving them arbitrary arcs when the dudes were trying to kill five million people for no reason—but hey this went on for so long in the arc I guess the audience was supposed to accept that the ants were partially human. Togashi could’ve done so much with the dark continent and ngl but he just doesn’t. Personally I don’t care for the blood and gore—this manga was always pretty violent. What did stand out was how badly kite was handled. It’s like how oda just killed off ace so quickly after his introduction despite him looking up to be a really big contributor to the cast. Also I hate how leorio and kurapika were just entirely sidelined for three straight arcs in a row—mind you, the chimera ant arc alone is 116 chapters long.
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>>29510
> I'm assuming you're an 2011 anime only
With the exception of the election arc, I’ve largely only read the manga of this series. I think the anime is too censored to get the feel of this series done right

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>>29511
>>29510
And no. I did read about the fact that chimera ants take the traits of their host via phagocytosis. That’s why some could even use nen and remember the memories of the people they ate.

That didnt suddenly change my opinion over how I felt they should’ve been handled by the midpoint of the arc. I *don’t feel any remorse for these creatures*. Plenty were fucked up and evil even before being reborn as ants and the manga explicitly outlines this. No I don’t care for Togashis messages on humans somehow being worse than ants because that message is the easiest example of false equivalence one can point out.

The chimera ants were objective villains. They run around eating whatever makes them stronger, predate on the weak, and have a rugged hierarchy built on physicality and combat prowess over intention and reason. They murdered people often without any intention of growing their own colonies but out of malice and sadistic pleasure. You really wanna go and compare that to people starting wars with each other over resource scarcity, long running cycles of hatred based on unresolved tensions surrounding oppressive regimes and inequality, or even just for the sake of liberation from a worse entity? That part of the arc (it was around the point when meruem started opening up to kugomi I think) in particular made me feel even less sympathy for these creatures than their initial opening just for the fact that I felt being gaslit by the author.

No. The ants are straight villains and there’s no reason not to believe so. Nothing in the chapters redeems the majority of them no matter how many excuses you want to make up for them and nothing will. Their presence alone has created five thousand major threats to known world and 400k+ people were murdered anyways within weeks of their arrival in the ngl even with the hunter association on their asses.

Maturity is often not morally grey.

>>29512
> I *don’t feel any remorse for these creatures*. Plenty were fucked up and evil even before being reborn as ants and the manga explicitly outlines this.
Yes, Chimera Ants are extremely vicious by nature as outlined by Kite. The mutation that was the Queen only gave them the means to consume even bigger food, than they are normally used to. Its probably safer to say that originally all Chimera Ants on the Dark Continent are this big

>No I don’t care for Togashis messages on humans somehow being worse than ants because that message is the easiest example of false equivalence one can point out.


Not the point of this arc and if you were being nitpicky, I would say that this "Humans (Gon) lost their humanity, while Chimera Ants (Meruem) gained theirs is a weak reading of the CA Arc.
Togashi tried to show that Humans have persisted and will come out on top for a reason and even in the face of seemingly impossible adversary, find a means to snatch victory. The Ants are also a narrative setup to the even bigger threats of the dark continent and additionaly a middle finger to every retarded power scaler by Togashi. The Ants gaining human qualities and the following presentation of some isolated qualities like empathy, fanaticism, honor in form of the Royal Guards and Meruem are just a nice way for Togashi to show what makes human different from other animals. Contrary to many interpretations (which are surface imo), Meruem is contrasted best to Tserriednich and not Gon. Meruem was tipping to the side of empathy in the end because of Komugi, while Tserriednich will tip to the side of cruelty and sadism.
>The chimera ants were objective villains. They run around eating whatever makes them stronger, predate on the weak, and have a rugged hierarchy built on physicality and combat prowess over intention and reason.
Sure, they are animals with no sense of morality in the sense that humans have. You sound like some moralist in any case

>They murdered people often without any intention of growing their own colonies but out of malice and sadistic pleasure.

Thats after they gain human traits (admittedly the traits of "bad" and "malicious " humans, but still. Togashi in the end has a liberal understanding of Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>29512
>Maturity is often not morally grey.
It actually is most of the time. Doesn't mean that this should hinder one in their resolve to achieve whatever objectives they outlined. Netero says the same thing in his fight with Meruem. He knows what his mission is and doesn't need to portray is as some moral victory which it wasn't. That is maturity and not this propaganda leaflet you are writing

>>29518
The longer this post goes on, the more you resort to name calling and sarcasm than answering anything I’ve mentioned with evidence pulled either from the manga or elsewhere. You’ve failed to change my opinion on the ants being static villains that otherwise would’ve been better off left dead for everyone else’s safety and have partially left me feeling more insulted than encouraged to move towards whatever arguments you had in mind.
>>29519
No it’s not. Say what you want about history being violent, but the vast majority of cases we have on extreme violence aren’t instances of people making hard decisions, but people predating on each other out of opportunism. More people dying to genocide than to direct warfare in the past 200 years isn’t moral greyness, that’s predation on the helpless in probably the most direct and explicit form you can get. Who knows how many people dying and facing subjugation in imperialist conquest isn’t moral greyness, that’s the byproduct of a combination of saviour beliefs, greed, and more predation on the account of the countries and their missionaries involved in this—like come on, are you really going to argue instances of French and us soldiers raping children abroad was some kind of morally grey struggle they had to think long and hard about? Even today, you can argue more cases of extreme violence and death being caused less by moral greyness and more by explicit and clear cases of moral bankruptcy in its purest form. Zionist genocide of the Palestinian and other minorities population? Byproduct of more superficial beliefs in superiority over other peoples and predation on again more helpless people. RSF working alongside the UAE to terrorize and kill helpless civilians to plunder gold out of the country? Literally how on the nose can you get with such an example. I can’t list how many crimes related to neocolonialist extraction in MENA and sub Saharan Africa end up tracing back to the same countries initially involved in colonization.

No fuck you and your trash take. There are way more cases of what one could consider right from wrong than not. I am not sympathizing for genocidal ants and never will. I can empathize to understand why some of the less animalistic ants end up as dangers to those around them, I won’t gPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2583373
People hate the ACP because they are a bunch of right-wingers pretending to be leftists in order to try to trojan horse fascism into it. They are a bunch of terminally online idiots pretending to be a movement who pretend to be "Manly Men" for clout. Haz admitted to being more inspired by Dugin and Heidegger than Marx.

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>>2583380
Not happening because Zoomers/Alphas have no authentic creativity or counter-culture.
They don't have their own music, they don't have their own aesthetics, they're hyper atomised online. Everything Zoomers claim from hypebeast to hyperpop to Breakcore to Algorave, to all their video aesthetics, fashion etc are just repackaging finge millennial subcultures and Tim and Eric/Adult Swim.
So they gravitate to the left because the left is morally "good" but also counter-cultural. It's why you can see so many Lefty zoomers on here have very Christian style morality rather than Marxism which is an ammoral Science.
>>2583384
Yes, but also it requires very real work and dealing with Normies and actual Proles.
>>2583385
Sure, on anonymous imageboards, but I know how to talk to and work with Normies IRL and not trauma dump on them or talk about online shit to them lmao. In fact IRL you'll find i'm probably the person who LEAST talks about online stuff becaue I'm from old 2004 "Hide your powerlevel" 4chan.
>>2583386
>the ACP are a bigger gaggle of freaks than the average 'wokescold', the very fact they have to try to do normie shit underscores that they aren't normies. freaks pretending to be normal are much stranger than freaks who embrace their role as freaks.
Maybe, I'm not in the US so haven't seen them personally and maybe ASPD roidhead Haz is what they're all like, but from their videos, they seem to do a good job talking to normies and truckers and such without being offputting and obnoxious, more than you can say than
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPLQNUVmq3o
or
>>2583373
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>>2583391
>you'll find i'm probably the person who LEAST talks about online stuff becaue I'm from old 2004 "Hide your powerlevel" 4chan.
I guarantee you people you interact with find you weird, you're fucking delusional lol

>>2583393
Nope, I hide my powerlevel and present as a complete normie IRL. I talk about football, rugby, cricket, movies, snark and gossip shit, working out etc. I only ever talk about politics when it's brought up to me, and I never talk in Marxist lingo or whatever, I always present my political views as just "Yeah I think they should just nationalise these finance companies, why not have them earn money so they can lower taxes?".
Why in fuck would I talk about weird imageboard shit and online stuff? That's why I'm here when I'm bored at work and have nothing to for.

>>2583387
Call me a liberal if you want, but I draw the line at LARPer. Every line of serious work that I have written since 2016 has been written, directly or indirectly, against LARPing and for practical action, as I understand it.

You chide "autistics and BPDs" for "never tak[ing] organizing seriously" but tell me: who is really taking organizing seriously? name names. Having a party that puts out inane "demands" on behalf of a working class that doesn't know it exists and wouldn't follow it if they did is not "serious" organizing, it is LARPing, it is self-indulgence far worse than anything a mentally ill weirdo on twitter could conjure. Seriousness requires being oriented around practical action, not around duplicating the structure of your favorite foreign/historical communist party in different conditions so that you, the true alid of Marx, can be general secretary and set the line.

>>2583391
You are falling into an aesthetic trap, transhistorically imagining miners as normal people and service workers with blue hair as weirdoes. You take no account of age, no account of how little people care if you have dangerhair and piercings, no account of how little these aesthetic things matter in a world where we barely bother with subcultural uniforms. If you have your revolution, it is going to look ridiculous. We are living in a ridiculous age. Even then: you ignore just how demonized the miners were, or how much class spite exists in these isles. They look nice and normal in your 40 year old photos, sure, but that doesn't mean a British normie circa 1984 is going to see them as anything other than uppity communist scum.

With that said: The organized Labour left were a gaggle of liberals and cowards dogmatically opposed to communism, barely interested in socialism, and only briefly flirting with social democracy in the face of the 1970s energy crisis. The miners were fighting to save a dying industry* and, at a push, to get Labour's 1974 manifesto implemented. Not to bring about Soviet power.
You are living in the aftermath of their caution, their excess, and their blundering love for one of the world's shittest "social democratic for 25 minutes" parties. It is harsh: their complete and utter failure iPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



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/US-Venezuela war/ #3
>Third Heaven Edition

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Thread in which we discuss the latest aggression-based-on-lies by the USA against a country which did not attack it.
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>>2583337
It's GDP, not per capita GDP.

Face it: GDP is a clown metric, because it shows growth during literal genocides and when whole cities get erased.

>>2583338
> GDP is a clown metric, because it shows growth during literal genocides and when whole cities get erased.
I was agreeing with you. just adding nuance. You're right that it's not per capita. I'm saying even if it were per capita, and even if it were adjusted for PPP, it would still give the same false appearance, because it would count the wealth transfer from the dead/emigrants to the living people inside the country as "economic activity." I'm elaborating on WHY it's a clown metric.

>>2583245
Red in the Torygraph yesterday that Xi is doing purges of the Chinese armed forces because of 'childhood trauma'. Really crazy stuff.

trump has to TACO on this one right? he's despo to make his long term friendship with his friend, confidant, pimp, and occasional bull jeffery epstein go away and this is working for now, but his base hates it. as soon as this half-baked invasion hits a snag jeff's gonna be right there waiting for him. venezuela isn't going to be a pushover. everyone in the favela has a picture of chavez on his wall. the US has never failed to fail when confronted with an insurgency. the favela, the jungle, the mountains every corner of venezuela is perfect terrain to swallow a patrol without a trace.

he's unpopular now, bodybags aren't going to help. he's gotta know he's cooked.

>>2583351
I don't understand how china prosecuting corrupt government officials and corrupt businessmen is perceived as a weakness. look at the west and how successive corruption scandals have completely eroded trust in our governments, prestige abroad, all of the infrastructure and services that feed growth and wellbeing.

fuck, look at israel. corruption got them into a soft civil war, then into a genocide, now both, and it's ultimately going to cost them their state.

the other day there were fires in hong kong. it's been nearly a decade since the grenfel tower fires and not a single person has been prosecuted. in hong kong the party started cuffing the developers the next day.

>>2583366
I would say 60% chance he has to TACO for practical reasons, 30% chance of a single nothingburger strike followed by retaliatory nothingburger strike followed by ceasefire like in Iran, but there's a 10% chance that he and his cabinet go on an insane streak and genuinely believe they can score a quick and easy victory like in Iraq.



/games/

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I decided to create this general for TCOAAL since 4chan is currently out of service so discuss about TCOAAL or any of Nemlei's other games.

Store Link: https://store.steampowered.com/app/2378900/The_Coffin_of_Andy_and_Leyley/
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>>45147
sounds like a nightcore'd version of i can't defeat airman


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I've never heard of a siblings discount before this comic.


>>45168
just ruling class things



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Probably my most "Idpol" opinion is that on some subconscious level, people pay more attention to what’s happening in Palestine partly because Palestinians are perceived as more Caucasian or white-adjacent compared with the victims of crises in places like Sudan, Myanmar, or Somalia. Again I don’t think most people make this distinction intentionally or out of active racism, it’s just a bias that many groups, including white people and Arabs across the political spectrum, end up participating in without realizing it.
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I'm not a Zionist so PLEASE don't ban me for this.

I've never understood why the western left places so much significance on Israel-Palestine. There are comrades whose ENTIRE "leftist persona" is Palestine and I've never understood it. Geopolitically speaking, the conflict matters very, very little to global capitalism. This idea that the Arab World can only become socialist if Israel becomes Palestine again is absurd. Saudi Arabia vs. Iran is a much bigger conflict in the SWANA than Israel-Palestine.

>>2582914
Fuck you if you believe we need to know the whole world as if its not a system that perpetuates these problems

>>2583293
>Geopolitically speaking, the conflict matters very, very little to global capitalism
shalom! +7k shekel were sent to your bank account. yeah i do wonder who runs the banks who is in the heavy metals business despite having no mines and in the diamond business despite having no mines and in the surveillance tech industry and who is the most important western base in the middle east securing chaos and cheap oil i do wonder indeed

>>2583355
You do realize those corporations will just move somewhere else if Israel dissolves, right?

>>2583358
Then why dont they do it and prefer to genocide people and have perpetual wars if its so easy?



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It's old news that fascism is on the rise but I can't be the only one that is suspecting there's a deliberate push by social media companies at this point? Twitter might be obvious but I'm also seeing more and more things on places like youtube getting tons of views that wouldn't have been allowed to stay up a couple years ago, picrel for example. Instagram reels being full of nazi content and its comment sections being bombarded with racism is something that's become infamous but that seemed to have happened almost overnight.
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>>2555882
They're not scared of Trump, they agree with him uncritically in most respects. Only thing they don't like is the tariffs. For the Silicon Valley/private equity vampires JD Vance would be the perfect president because he would do everything Trump is doing but dump the tariffs. Tariffs are a uniquely Trump quirk and not a core element of the larger right-wing project, he's been obsessed with them for his entire life.

AI moderation is fundamentally retarded but is still programmed to keep shit like this down given enough time and reports. Flightfromsyracuse's anti-Indian video was taken down in a week because everyone in Mumbai saw it and took it down in anger, I think the poop festival vlog did too. The problem is that YouTube AI mods are retards that flag simple basic words but still cannot take down propaganda in time before it reaches 100k views.
>Instagram reels being full of nazi content and its comment sections being bombarded with racism is something that's become infamous but that seemed to have happened almost overnight.
Didn't Intagram reels have a full day of gore or something?
This is just what happens when new untested "AI code" is added in. I wouldn't worry about it.

Dear mods please add Super Saging to /leftypol/ already threads like these don't require the catalog space. This barely even belongs on /isg/

>>2555799
Is this not an admission that your views can only spread in carefully curated environment? What would happen to your movement if it was censored?

>>2555799

It's only among white gen z, all the other races end up on the left, with the exception of some manoisphere stuff.

>>2556082
american years of lead



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Do you guys have any books that highlight the cleverness of Soviet warfare in WW2 that dispute the Zerg rush narrative of the West? As far as I know the allies had all of their information of what was going on on the eastern front from Germans who overembelished their military prowess and downplayed those of the Soviets.
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>>21575
do you get paid to post garbage like this or you just have severe brainrot?

>>21576
Even worse, he does it for free because he's a literal NPC.

>>21575
none of these points you made are based on facts and just spewing shit like enemy at the gates, a movie, is a documentary.

>>21573
>The barbarism of the Soviet occupying forces can best be judged by the fact that many thousands of Hungarian men were raped or forced to unnatural excesses by Russian women soldiers. The Reds established a recreation camp near Kecskemét for more than thirty thousand sick and convalescent women members of the Soviet army and the police forces. From this camp, for instance, the Russian women banded together at night and swooped down on the surrounding hamlets, kidnapping the men and sometimes holding them captive for days.
Hawt

>>21581
why does this never happen to me



/music/

 

Material explanation of this song?

It's been going viral on social media recently. The "artist", Spalexma, is an entirely AI-generated project that's made multiple CCM and Christmas-themed albums.

Listening to this song, you can hear the so-called "AI accent", that warbly, tingling robot voice.

What does it say that this song is the perfect artifact of conservative culture in America? They don't even give Jesus as much praise as Charlie Kirk.
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>Material explanation of this song?
We are Charlie Kirk, obviously.

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I saw the masterdebator – this free-market-spirit – speaking out on the campus of libtards. It is indeed a wonderful sensation to see such an individual, who, concentrated here at a single point, beneath a tent, reaches out over the woke and owns it.

No words

>>16403
>your crown is ready my beloved son
Oh so they're actually deifying him now unironically lmao
Move over Jesus. Christoids have a new toy.




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Why do so many on /leftypol/ take imperialist pinkwashing propaganda at face value when 10 years before Obama it was the Christian fundamentalists and conservatives who were saying "kill all the ragheads, bomb the entire 3rd world" and the whole "gay liberal imperialism" thing is a fairly recent development in American society, rather than some kind of eternal truth going back to the Monroe Doctrine?

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furthermore, why do LGBT people get singled out as somehow uniquely imperialist when the vast majority of cishet reactionaries also support imperialism?

1. because they want to leftwash their anti-LGBT feelings
2. because they're stupid, superficial thinkers allergic to real material analysis.
3. because they project themselves on to foreign countries, which are sometimes anti-LGBT
4. because their aesthetic preferences derive from a point in time when being LGBT was less publicly accepted

this all combines to give you the ridiculous farce of them imagining that when Deloitte has a pride float, that means they're the ones "pushing" things rather than them being pushed to respond to bottom up pressure. (until it was counteracted by top-down pressure from the US government)



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>>2581998
marx wants to overcome the concept of value by overcoming the abstraction of labour in exchange (e.g. via central planning). thats why he doesnt consider labour certificates "money", and so we can call them coupons. of course, you would call it slavery to be paid a salary in coupons, but in communism, this is "freedom", apparently. marx also states directly that labour must be exploited by the state in the form of surplus labour and taxation to expand production. thus, i call marx's communism "state capitalism".
>>2582003
price = exchange-value = SNLT
an easy marxist formula. lets read this:
<the sum of the prices of production of all commodities produced in society — the totality of all branches of production — is equal to the sum of their values.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch09.htm
i.e. total price = total value
this is why as marx says, whatever is sold above value must be balanced by what is sold below. when considered totally of capital composition therefore, the rate of surplus value is able to be determined so as to measure the value of commodities:
<C = c + v + s
as regards your elevator analogy, its still true that the average is affected by varying quantities, so the rate of profit still equalises at the division of its total sum. but i will ask you - if 5 people are weighed, and the total is 500 kilograms, what is the average weight of the persons? what is true is that a larger sample size creates better results, but averages exist nonetheless.

so, by reading marx's words directly (i.e. total price = total value), have you accepted that the ratio of values in exchange are measured by SNLT in prices, and that this is how marx intended himself to be interpreted? if not, may you explain why? thanks. 🙂

>>2548723
Workers power within capitalism has very little to do with communism in that case. If this is true, why do MLs insist on political capture before the development of new economic relations?

>>2582249
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

>>2582249
>whatever is sold above value must be balanced by what is sold below.

You said things are sold at value here:
>>2570972
>value is abstract labour
>exchange-value is the quantity of abstract labour
Just to make sure that you really intended to say that, you got asked by post >>2571815 this:
>You say here the ratios of abstract labor going into commodities is equal to their exchange ratios
And you replied:
>>2571906
>theyre the same thing
And later on, you said:
>>2582249
>price = exchange-value = SNLT
Yep, this is literally the same post where you then go on to say things exchange above their value and below it. By the value definition you gave (and have given again and again), this is impossible. Do you want to change your definition?

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>>2583248
>You said things are sold at value
to marx, they are, as a component of total price matching total value, by the equalisation of the rate of profit. he writes this explicitly, and you havent denied it yet, so you must be growing in your reason.
>Do you want to change your definition?
its not my definition, its marx's. you have failed to give an alternative definition of "value" from exchange-value. i repeat:
<the sum of the prices of production of all commodities produced in society […] is equal to the sum of their values.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch09.htm
so then, total value = total price.
what can be more clear? (C = c + v + s)

but please, state your specific criticisms of what im writing, because i want to help you learn. 😮‍💨



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>burgerland
>bourgeoisville located outside of a major city
>cant fucking breathe, feeling like i'm about to pass out
>call ambulance
>takes at least 6 minutes to arrive
>arrive at hospital
>put in wheelchair and taken to waiting area
>there's a fucking line
>wait 20 minutes
>get triaged, EKG, wait another 10 minutes
>get a room, blood drawn, wait some more
>see the doctor for like 5 minutes, describe symptoms
>at least an hour later get breathing drug
>get discharged shortly after, can breathe a bit better but still feel like shit and nothing shows up on the bare minimum tests they do
>"how are you getting home?"
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I've been having to take my 78 year old grandmother to her doctors appointments lately because she's senile, and everyone else in the family fucked off a long time ago. She's not racist or anything weird like that, just nobody else is willing to take care of her. About a month ago she fell and traumatized her arthritic hand. We thought it was broken but the x rays showed nothing. Turns out her tendons just became massively swolen from the fall, causing immobility in her hand. Now she needs physical therapy but we have to wait another month for her insurance to approve it. Meanwhile, at this appoitnment, I had to fill out all her paperwork for her because she literally can't remember anything anymore and has trouble finding things like her insurance card and her photo ID in her wallet, which has like a whole deck of cards in it. She doesn't know how to use a smartphone or an email so I also have to do sign up to use my email for everything involving her. It's been a total nightmare. I'm actually leaving out some other key details to avoid saying too much about myself. What this experience has made me realize is I don't want to burden my kids with taking care of me when I get old and my wife and I have both privately discussed finding humane ways to commit suicide if it ever comes to that.

>>2582512
> Meanwhile, at this appoitnment, I had to fill out all her paperwork for her because she literally can't remember anything anymore and has trouble finding things like her insurance card and her photo ID in her wallet, which has like a whole deck of cards in it
also it was physical paperwork. like 10 pages, a total nightmare, and it's her writing hand she injured, and also some of the pages were basically trying to get us to sign up for random bullshit having nothing to do with the matter at hand, so I had to read carefully. Forgot to mention that part.

>>2582252
>muh i'd die if i don't have a drink GIB ME DRINK RIGHT NOOOOW

Alcoholics actually believe this lol

>>2583329
I'm not alcoholic, but I have lived with alcoholics, who I find very annoying by the way, but what anon said about withdrawl is true, not in all cases, but in very severe cases of alcoholism.

When someone who is physically dependent on alcohol suddenly stops drinking, their nervous system, which was previously kept suppressed by alcohol, rebounds into a hyper‑excited state. This can lead to, seizures, delirium tremens (DTs), severe confusion, agitation, fever, high blood pressure, rapid heart rate, electrolyte disturbances, cardiovascular collapse. Delirium tremens has a mortality rate of approximately 5–15% without treatment, but this drops significantly with proper medical care.

Now imagine if you had a alcohol withdrawl seizure while driving to work in busy traffic on the freeway, or while standing on a ladder at work. It's very easy to see how this can be lethal by proxy (accidents resulting) but cardiovascular collapse is also lethal. If you don't believe me, ask the doctor next time you go. They'll back me up on this.

>>2583329
t. person that gets headaches when they miss their coffee



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>>43633

>ban all dissenting opinions to try to force a hugbox

>"low quality" "reactionary"

Welcome to r/leftypol; similar issue is ongoing under /brg/.



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one of the biggest things they teach in bourgeois economics is that "actually 100% employment is BAD! because it means people can't quit their jobs if they want to and the supply of labor in the labor market will be too low!" I see it dropped casually like it's just a matter-of-fact by people, especially "influencers" who aren't even bourgeois or economists because it's repeated so often. I hate this myth so fucking much for so many reasons, but it's obviously functioning as an ideological justification for the reserve army of labor whether the people repeating it realize that or not (they usually don't even know what the reserve army of labor is). People quit their jobs because their wages are too low, instead of getting organized, because getting organized is harder than quitting and begging another porky for a job. Then when they're begging porky for another job, which can take literally months, they are getting application after application rejected for no good reason, and finally they get desperate and accept a job that is as bad or even worse than their previous job. Most people desire stable employment and a living wage and only quit their job because their wage is shit. So saying or implying that having an unemployment rate of 5-10% is "good" because "people can quit their jobs due to high mobility in the labor market!" functions to justify this state of affairs.

Porky has always opposed 100% unemployment. Pic and vid related.
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>>2568483
Undervalued currency means a currency that isn't allowed to be traded freely on the market, and upon which a downward pressure is exerted by the govt that issues the currency.

>>2568491
No infinite value engines exist in economics, just like no perpetual engines exist in physics. "Undervaluing currency" means there is a way to artificially change value of goods - meaning such a perpetual engine. And we know for a fact that's bullshit, Marx went over examples of such machines in the first chapter of Kapital

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>>2563763
>one of the biggest things they teach in bourgeois economics is that "actually 100% employment is BAD!
In the Manifest Marx and Engels are explicit: Equal liability of all to work. 100% employment is explicit socialist policy. Like your image says, the US and UK freaked out about the ITO charter for a reason.

>>2568676
>"Undervaluing currency" means there is a way to artificially change value of goods - meaning such a perpetual engine
I'm not sure I follow.

>>2568483
>They didn't, they got outcompeted by native producers of numerous nations who did the same job cheaper, most notable example of such a nation being China.
once again, you're acting like that's a mutually exclusive explanation. America outsourced BECAUSE they got outcompeted, and America's reserve currency strategy dictated letting this problem get worse because they followed an import based strategy rather than an export based strategy. Past declining empires like the British and Dutch made similar mistakes. The reserve currency thing isn't a meme. These problems all feed into each other. Imperial core capitalists also become seekers of interest and rent, rather than profit, through the process of financialization, which is another reason the industrial base in the imperial core declines. You win power by being more productive, but then once you're at the top you refuse to stay productive, and instead rest on your imperialist laurels, seeking rent and interest, outsourcing production, letting up-and-coming nations outcompete you, and letting money printer go Brrrr because you think you can coup and sanction everyone to death forever.



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>55.8% of the respondents say the Communist state itself was also good.

>66.2% of Romanians believe Communist leader Nicolae Ceaușescu was a "GOOD LEADER"


Any opinions?
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>>2579947
>leftcom regurgitating unironic anticommunist counterarguments
no contradiction

>>2579947
>It's just nostalgia!! These things can only be explained by my essentialist pseudo psychoanalysis of boomers
Lol and you have the gall to call others libs

>>2579947
>Old who Lived under socialism:Its nostalgia
>young who has a positive view: you dont know your history
Also Ceaușescus popularity is in the youth as well to the point the Romanian government is clamping down on it. Look at this anti-commie burger get upset about some young university students saying positive things about the socialist period. These are supposed to be the most pro-EU

>>2580550

>If you are poor: You are envious.

>If you are rich: You are a hypocrite.
>If you don't have a don't have a degree: You are ignorant.
>If you do have a degree: You are disconnected/utopian.

Anyone care to add to the list? Maybe:

>If you are an incel: You are bitter.

>If you have big family: You had too many kids.
>If you are a worker in the public sector: You are entitled.
>If you are a worker in the private sector: You are resentful and/or lack entrepreneurship.

>>2578889
They've shot him and his wife without trial or anything approaching legality precisely because he actually had high approval ratings



/lgbt/

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How do I cope with the fact that i'm probably genderfluid?

For years now ive constantly been conflicted with my gender, wanting to be a girl but also wanting to just be a femboy. Ive been told by many that im likely some type of non-binary, but I dont want to be. I just either want to be either a normal trans girl or a femboy, but if I identify as genderfluid then I fear that people wont see me as a real transgirl or as a real femboy, so it would be like I just dont get to be either.

God, whats wrong with me? Why couldnt I have just been born as a normal gender-binary-fitting person? I dont want to be genderfluid.
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>>5209
you are already a normal person OP. what your idea of a "girl" and a "femboy" is?

>>5222
>What are the things that make you want to be a "boy" and not a woman?
There's something about presenting femininely while still identifying as a boy that i find both novel and appealing.

Another reason is that being referred to as a girl just doesnt feel right to me. I briefly did identify as trans in a few online communities, but I often felt a discomforting sense that I was intruding on an identity that im not apart of, that I dont belong. Occasionally I did feel fine being referred to as a girl online, but most of the time it felt very wrong to me. I never felt this way when it comes to being in femboy communities though.

Lastly and most minor of the reasons, I just cant imagine myself in a straight relationship as a trans woman. Dating straight men seems absolutely awful. However, I can very much imagine myself dating another gay guy as a femboy, it feels a lot more desirable to me.

>Keep in mind "femmen" currently aren't a real thing.

The term itself makes me want to vomit tbh. I absolutely hate being referred to as a man. I honestly dont know what ill do about the inevitability of aging.

>>5247
>I often felt a discomforting sense that I was intruding on an identity that im not apart of, that I dont belong
This is something you can overcome. I would go so far to say it's good to be conscious of the fact, transitioning doesn't instantly negate your past as a boy/man.
>Dating straight men seems absolutely awful.
You know, that's a classic straight woman experience, which in their case makes them not want to date men at all. Tbh i don't know any gay men personally, so i can't judge their character, yet since being gay became "normal", i think a lot of them want to conform to some version of heterosexual norms. Men saying they're gay or bisexual for dating trans woman is also a common enough occurence, but they're pretty resoundingly seen as assholes for that.

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There's nothing to cope with, you're just scared of being weird, which is a spook.

I think I'm probably some flavor of genderfluid too, where being a woman and being agender are like the tide on the beach. I don't really think about it and just think of myself as the average of the two since over time it does average out in the middle.

Just think of yourself as a she/they femboy woman thingy, or whatever you think it averages out too, and don't stress if you don't have the words to describe it.

>>5209
thats called being a transvestite, its different than being transgender



/leftypol/

 

This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

Active writers/creators sorted by last name

>Paul Cockshott

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>>2576720
all porkies are class conscious lol

>>2576294 (me)
Continuing with my boring exploration.

I know the hydraulic procedure does not have any prices, but could we do a scalar evaluation of the resources after they got assigned with this procedure, just on the basis of the assignment pattern? (You know, for the accountants.) We could simply do this: For a resource, we look at which pseudo-firm received some of it and just add all these pseudo-firms' RAP scores together. It seems to me that, ''within the constraints that we neither look at excess stocks nor at the request forms nor anything else besides the assignment pattern, this is actually the most fitting measure we can do. If this measure feels weird, it's really due to the method the measure was made for.

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>>2578921
if they were truly class conscious they wouldn't be their own gravediggers

>>2583286
anon this anlysis fails to realize that porkie doesnt care about what happens after they die. A lot of the porkie will die before collapse happens so who gives a shit about lel future

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>>2583306
if they can't or don't want to perpetuate class society after they die then they aren't really class conscious, they're just individualists, nihilists, and egoists. For the bourgeoisie to be conscious as a class they would have to want society to continue after they die.

But the analysis in the picture DOESEtake this into account. They hoard more wealth than they can spend in one life time. A lot of them could retire and never run out of money but they choose to continue attending board meetings and doing interviews and shit. They dress up and go places and act important and try to force regulations in their favor. They try to extend their copyrights more than a century. They try to use life extension tech. Elon Musk has a ton of kids. They really seem to think the Earth will survive their bullshit and they want their progeny to inherit their wealth,, on the one hand, but they continue to act in ways which guarantee their downfall, and/or the destruction of the earth, on the other hand. They want to live forever through life extension tech, on the one hand, but they don't create a political situation that tolerates their perpetual existence, on the other hand. They absolutely, as a class, seem to care about the future, but are very bad at understanding that they have outlived their historical usefulness as a class.



/edu/

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Choosing a language edition

I do not know why we do not have an active language learning thread, so here you go.
If you got other links you think are worthy of being on here, do mention them.

>Language learning communities

r/languagelearning
https://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/

Language learner's forum
https://forum.language-learners.org/

Linguaholic's forum
https://linguaholic.com/

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>>25414
I want to learn russian, so I was planning on starting with Michel Thomas Method and then following 4chan's /int/ guide. But the OP's reddit guide seems better, I'll use it instead. Thanks OP

>>25414
est-ce que tu viens du fil de /lang/ sur /int/ ?

i speak english, french and spanish. i'd like to learn chinese and persian next.
>>25415
are you from iran?

>>25423

Hey, man i forgot leftypol was even a thing. Yes, i am Iranian.

>>25422

Your welcome friend, goodluck and have fun.

>>25435
are you (ethnic) persian?



/anime/

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Tomoko thread… why? Because I like the character… and other reasons…
Post lewds (spoilered), memes, edits, pics and anything else related to the subject
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