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I haven't really been much of a marxist throughout my life because of its somewhat "continental" nature. In essence my thought system has been articulated around the idea of non-domination/non-coercion, similar to most neo-republicans nowadays. Yet, whilst discussing with a friend of mine yesterday, she described marxism as essentially that, except with a broader picture than the individual. Thus my question is, how do you respond to these critiques without falling into some form of left-libertarianism or kantian ethical (like Rawls or Pettit) system ?

>LTV
From my understanding, alienation occurs because the worker doesn't enjoy the full value of his labor, determined by his labor. Without going into economic debates about which paradigm is true, how do you resolve the LTV being arguably false with the alienation incumbent on the workers ? Alternatively, if labor is presumed to not have innate value, how does alienation come about ?

>Historical materialism
Similarly, how does the marxist critique interprets the potential errors that Marx made. If class conflict is the sole driver of history, how do you explain Napoleon or feudal reconfiguration. Furthermore, if the superstructure can affect and influence the base structure, doesn't this negate the broad "justification" of a revolution and that the roles of production aren't everything in a society (perhaps this lies on me, but I hardly see how marxism can be non-work centered).

>Falling rates of profit/crisis theory
It is my understanding that Marx argued that capitalism would inevitably result in crisis which would weaken the working class and express its contradiction. However, the keynesian framework allows for a more robust understanding of these crisis aswell as an integration of consideration for the workers in its system. Similarly, the TRPF has been disproved by Okshio's theory and has been somewhat proven empirically false. If both are true, what requirement is there to fundamentally change system and free ourselves from the free market "constraint" ?

>Empirical cases of "marxist-leninist" states & the ECP
Lastly, how do MLs adress the issue of domination in marxists societies. Essentially, why haven't marxist utopias produced long-lasting results and individual satisfaction ?
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>>2565544
>denying the marginalist conception
>ground them on solid arguments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emnYMfjYh1Q
Here's scientific proof of LTV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmbm3u2r_Cs
Here's clowning on Marshall.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BkMiZze4ak
And Okishio.
Total watch time is… 51 minutes. So I better not see a fucking reply from you before then. Got it?

How does historical materialism fail to explain Napoleon or feudal reconfiguration? Huh? Marx talks about both at length.

Marx never once uttered the words "labor theory of value," and never once claimed that his theory of value (which posited a relationship between labor-power and socially necessary labor time) could perfectly predict market prices. What research from the 1990s ended up demonstrating however, is that market prices did in fact correlate closely with socially necessary labor time, about 95%. Even so, value as socially necessary labor time abstracts away the market price, and specifically the post-production effects of supply and demand, which Marx never denied, but simply noted were besides the point when it came to analyzing exploitation. Rate of supply, or scarcity, is merely a reflection of labor time anyway, especially in regards to the labor time required to find and extract raw materials. It was bourgeois economists who lumped Marx in with Smith and Ricardo as "Classicals," and called what they had in common a "Labor Theory of Value" even though Marx differs from Smith and Ricardo on some specifics.

>>2565531

https://copejournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/Kliman-The-Okishio-Theorem-An-Obituary-1997.pdf

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>>2565544
>marginalism
does this $800 dollar SUPREME brick have more value than the ones used in construction?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/304834279483


/siberia/

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>Of Course There Be Rape In The Revolution

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>>727517
I am unmoved. Your provocations are futile because I am stoike.

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>>727518
Your defending rape so much you sound like a fucking Zionist!


/games/

 

>updated Steam Controller
>Steam Machine
>updated Index now called Steam Frame

So they're making a console but they are calling the machine and frame "PC" because they run steam OS, and calling it an "open ecosystem."
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>>44995
The OG steam controller is the last time anyone tried something new in gaming controls. It was definitely not on par with kb/m like they claimed, but it was a step up over dual analog sticks. It's such a fucking shame it got patent trolled out of existence. I miss the haptic nipples.

>>44997
PS3 Controller was peak.

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>>45000
Erm…

>>45005

i hate that layout even more now thanks

>>45006
It's an SNES controller with dualshock ergonomics and stick placement. When yoy say layout you mean the button layout? Do you need to look at your controller to know that to press?

>>45005
Is it worth it to get one of these 8bitdo controllers over something like a ps5 controller for pc?


/leftypol/

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Rope yet? Did he do it? Is the humiliation too great to bear? Is he on his way to hide in Saudi Arabia? Is he crying in his PJ's to Putin on the teen chat line?


/leftypol/

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🗽UNITED STATES POLITICS 🦅
<Ronald McDonald Trump Edition

🏈 💵Thread for hellish discussion of the Dying Burger Reich and the pedophile Hitlerite-Zionist clique of the American bourgeoisie and its iron grip upon the greatest bigliest country McGod™ ever gave McMan™ on the face of the McEarth™🌭 🍔

>Things are going to continue to happen in the stupidest ways possible that no one really takes seriously, where every single person compulsively reacts with either cynical grifting or useless panic and appealing to a political system of liberal democracy that is entirely dead and irrelevant. things will continue to get gradually worse, more people will lose their jobs and homes, the most destitute and marginalized will be oppressed by state-backed domestic terrorism, but the decay will simply continue and everyone who isn't actively being imprisoned and forced into slavery or outright exterminated will simply ignore it and maintain a cognitive dissonance of believing a civil war is happening while living their lives in a mostly normal fashion. The death of the United States will be slow, painful, and insufferably annoying and stupid.
<Death to the scourge of the earth, the destroyer of nations, the father of fascism, the enabler of ethnostates, the treatlerite tyrant, the protector of pedophiles, the exporter of ecocide, the captain of capitalism, the king of coups, the sultan of sanctions, the emir of the embargo, the autocrat of austerity, the doge of deregulation, the baron of busting unions, the prince of privatization, the lord of loan sharks, the patron-saint of proxy wars, the sponsor of settlers, the guarantor of genocides, the invader of islands, the Divided $nakkkes of Amerikkka™

🛠️ Strike Tracker ⚒️
https://striketracker.ilr.cornell.edu/

🇺🇸 Deeds of the Burger Reich 🇺🇸
https://github.com/dessalines/essays/blob/main/us_atrocities.md
https://williamblum.org/essays/read/ovPost too long. Click here to view the full text.
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>>2565669
why you gotta be such an argumentative overly sensitive fag anon? learn to have fun.

>>2565634
wish that kid was wearing a mask. they're gonna go on him hard and probably try to deport him even if he's a US citizen.

>>2565672
>why you gotta be such an argumentative overly sensitive fag anon?
>learn to have fun.

>>2565669
Okay, I guess I should have just left this stupid conversation die anyway.

>>2565675
Mmhm


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So leftypol can be summed up as.
/ISG/ where the radlibs hang out
/ukr/ where the ziggers and russian nationalists hang out
/prc/ where the dengists hangout
The Palestinian thread is where we all come together and spit on zionists
The country threads is we anons shit there respective country
And the rest of the threads are for normal people on the board
/Political Economy/ is where people who actually read hangout
/CRISIS/ is for people who perform rituals hoping capitalism will finally collapse in on its self.
/QTDDTOT/ is where people go to ask stupid questions
The rest of threads is for the normal people
The other boards can be summed up as
/edu/ is for reading recommendations
/labor/ is people to complain about there shitty jobs
/siberia/ is for the gooner and shitposters to hangout
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>>727486
>/ISG/ where the radlibs hang out

/ISG/ is still contested, no one faction won and took over yet, radlibs are just a strong faction, I'm part of the bad empanada faction, we will rise up and win

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>>727493
bad empanada is a radlib

>>727495
I will fucking kill you

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>>727486
>And the rest of the threads are for normal people on the board
thank you for calling me normal anon (unironically)

>>727493
based
>>727495
seethe firstie


/latam/

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EDIÇÃO AJURICABA
"Ajuricaba foi um importante líder dos povos indígenas da Amazônia. Este cacique dos indígenas Manáos liderou as tribos do Rio Negro na guerra contra os colonialistas portugueses na terceira década do século XVIII"
"Preso, ele seria conduzido a Belém para julgamento. Mas, mesmo acorrentado, lançou-se nas águas do Amazonas, para resistir à prisão."
O covil dos webcomunas no Brasil
Último fio: >>12708
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>>13675
Não estou dizendo que a mídia ou o povo japonês são "inerentemente" reacionários, até porque essa baboseira não existe. Estou dizendo que One Piece como um dos carros-chefe do soft power do Japão (e portanto subordinado ao governo japonês, de certa forma) não pode ter uma mensagem política muito forte além do liberalismo básico:
>racismo ruim
>escravidão ruim
>guerra ruim
>governo ruim
Nada disso é particularmente louvável e muitas dessas temáticas são facilmente cooptadas por capitalistas (ver: Kim Kataguiri ou as "revoluções coloridas" ocorrendo ao redor do mundo). Inclusive, escrever um grupo de "revolucionários" que defende reis moralmente bons faz mais mal do que bem. Qual o problema do Bill Gates ser um bilionário? Ele doa pra várias caridades e criou os computadores! Não vou nem entrar em detalhes sobre o sexismo infeliz (que pra constar, eu não acho que seja um defeito do autor, e sim uma limitação de sua história ser uma commodity escrita pra garotos japoneses na puberdade).
Sim, eu leio One Piece. Leio porque vi o anime em 2012 e acompanho o mangá desde 2015. É slop. Eu não reinvindico essa porra.

incrivel como não sabia da existencia do ancapcu mas aparentemente ele tem milhoes de views e apareçeu um video novo dele de 10 mil views em 40 minutos, ou é bot ou ancap não tem vida, qual é mais provavel ?..

>>13687
Contratado por diversidade da direita tem que se fuder msm.

>>13689
Eu também não fazia ideia de que esse cara existia até topar com o canal dele por acidente e ver vários vídeos com muitas views. Eu não vejo ele ser citado em canto nenhum e nem fazer presença em nenhum lugar, então eu não me preocuparia se fosse você. Ancaps costumam ser jovens que saem da ideologia assim que conseguem o primeiro emprego.

>>13687
>periférico
Kanye West sempre foi playboy.

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>Você sabia que quem inventou o avião era brasileiro?
<Os irmãos Wright eram brasileiro?
>Tá vendo o que eu to falando? S-A-N-T-O-S D-U-M-O-N-T inventou o avião, e ele foi roubado. Todo mundo sabe disso.


/leftypol/

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Previous thread: >>2177902

Dump all the seemingly pointless, dubious, and frivolous questions that don't deserve their own shitty threads.

Got a question that's probably been asked a million times before? You're in the right landfill, buddy. Post it here.

Threads that otherwise might go in here will eventually find themselves become merged to this thread.
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>>2564730
>How to explain the concept of exploitation via the extraction of surplus value as source of profit in layman's terms.

>>2564730
>You work and create things that are worth more than your wage.
>The boss pays you less than the value you create.
>????
>The boss keeps the rest as PROFIT.

>>2564246
>This is bait, right?
Yes and no. I’m genuinely interested in how Marxists view him and this was just a method of getting that insight.

>>2564730
>exploitation via the extraction of surplus value as source of profit
But.
It's the price the worker must pay for having a job. The job is value. If you own a bakery and pay the worker the full value for every bread he bakes, you can't buy intrigents, an oven and everything else you need to run a bakerery. You need a minimum of profit to keep it running, don't you?

>>2565345
>If you own a bakery and pay the worker the full value for every bread he bakes, you can't buy intrigents, an oven and everything else you need to run a bakerery.
Right.
>You need a minimum of profit to keep it running, don't you?
Profit isn't sales minus wages. Regular business expenditures are not defined as something that is deducted from profit, rather profit is what remains after these expenditures. Saying "I regularly buy ingredients for my bakery from my profits running the bakery" would be an abuse of language to any accountant, Marxist, and (I hope) most people in general. On the other hand saying "I put my profits into expanding my business" or "I put my profits into a new project" is normal language. The difference is what you really have to do to just keep going and what you don't need to do but choose. The boundary between these two cases can get blurry at times.


/leftypol/

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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
Brace through the hyper-real lacanian void together!

Reminder That None of This Is Real!™
ɢʀᴀʙ ᴀ ᴘᴀɪʀ ᴏꜰ sᴘᴇᴄᴛᴀᴄʟᴇs

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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/debord/society.htm
📺 • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blWjssVoUQ

<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin
📖 • https://www.marxists.org/reference/subject/philosophy/works/ge/benjamin.htm
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>>2565631
They were both inspired by this man.

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>>2565405
>I want advice on getting out of imageboards … How do you find things to talk about in hobby/fandom places when your thoughts are rarely any deeper than "I like thing"?
Ask them WHY do they like the thing. "What do you like about [thing]?" Go deeper. Let them tell their story. You can weigh in with your own comments.

>Is there anything else I should know?
People like to talk about themselves. The good news is that you don't have to talk very much if you let them do the talking. That's my strategy anyways. I ask people open-ended questions that are kind of psychological. Once you find something that someone is interested in, you ask them why they're interested, and basically you're trying to figure out what the thing does for them. I try to be a good listener. I like to write but I don't like to talk too much. And I think, to some degree, just be yourself.

Be authentic and spontaneous. Don't act in bad faith. Nobody's perfect. The last conversation I had with somebody was with this older Dutch guy who does home remodeling and was a Dutch air force helicopter pilot in the 1980s. I run into him at the dog park regularly. Eventually I asked him when he moved here, and what was the context. Originally he came to the U.S. for military training, and then I learned he was a helicopter pilot, then I asked what kind of helicopter, which was an Alouette. I know two things about the Alouette is that it's French and can fly really high. And he was like you bet, he used to fly to anti-aircraft NATO missile bases in the Alps. Well he trained with different armies. The Germans. The Americans. So I'd ask him what was it like to train with the Germans, the Americans. What were your impressions of them compared to the Dutch military? He also visited East Berlin during the Cold War with a group of tourists and was tailed by a group of secret police (which was normal).

I try to be like a journalist. Anyhow, the last conversation was all about home construction. How does that compare here to Europe (it's actually relatively fucked up here in America compared to Europe).

I use Bourdain because he was a master of this technique. Like this video is all about Waffle House but this guy is just fascinated by it. His subject does most of the talking but he leaves the conversation thinking "I really like that guy Anthony Bourdain" even though Bourdain didn't have to actually talk that much.

I've also hung out with criminal biker gang guys. Literally some of these guys. I mean I just had neighbors who were these guys and we'd grill. But I don't judge them, I'd be like "hey, let me ask you, you ride with a bunch of guys, right? What does that feel like?" It does something for them, it's comraderie in a pseudo-military sort of way, and it requires a lot of focus. It's pretty dangerous. You don't ask them if they've ever shot anybody or broken the law. You ask them how they feel when they're rolling down the highway with 30 guys. It feels pretty good. You relate with them on that human level.

>>2565640
This guy is the biggest tryhard ever. When on video he artificially deepens his voice and always shows himself smoking cigars and drinking whiskey lmao


/siberia/

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Climate Change is the biggest threat to humanity and nobody is doing anything about it, 10 years ago we would hear about it in the news and people would protest but people don’t even do that anymore. The only solution to stop the world from being destroyed in 10 years is to nationalize the extraction industry so we only burn as much fossil fuels as we need until we can fully convert to renewable energy but nobody will do that because that’s communism. Conservatives like to deny that climate change exists and censor journalists and scientists who speak the truth while liberals like to say “It’s Trump’s fault!” Even though they are just as responsible because Obama and Biden did nothing to stop this. The only hope I ever feel when reading the news about climate change is hearing about China’s clean energy infrastructure, it’s so good that I have to end this on it so I don’t have a mental breakdown.


/leftypol/

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Money is very funny in a Banderite world edition.

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

https://archive.ph/44B9Q
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323637
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323658
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323663
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323688
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323729
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323733
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323731
https://archive.ph/x1sRT#1323735
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>>2565542
Whatever their method is they still need a control over and some sort of functional Ukrainian state that can support their extractive proceedings.

>>2565567
Nafoid economic is even better:
>Russian economy would have collapsed if not for the war. Now only the war sustains it and Putin can't stop the war. it's still going to collapse anyway.
<All of this war spending in the west is actually great and economically productive because muh jobs. Why are you complaining?

>>2565533
Ukraine wants the west to steal the frozen russian assets and give it to ukraine to pay the west for weapons etc.
This has proved to be a problem because some in the west don't want to do that because it will damage their credibility as a place to put money, and because western banks and companies have assets in russia and china that could be counter-seized.
Last i heard, most of the assets are in Euroclear and they have assets in China, so if Euroclear lets the nafos steal the Russian assets, Russia will sue Euroclear in China and China will seize their assets to pay Russia for the damages.
Possible other scenarios too, but it's apparently not so easy to just steal the russian assets the way they want.

>>2565416
he's losing it, he's losing it lmao.

>>2565510
is that regarding the 10 years 'buying intention' weapons agreement with France?


/leftypol/

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Hamas, Gaza factions say UN resolution undermines ‘national will’
The factions said the plan headed by US President Donald Trump and backed by a number of Arab states in the region represents a “form of deep international partnership in the war of extermination waged by the [Israeli] occupation against our people”. The resolution also ignores the daily attacks by Israeli soldiers and settlers across the occupied West Bank, and pays no attention to root causes like ending Israeli occupation and apartheid, Hamas and the other groups said.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/11/18/hamas-gaza-factions-say-un-resolution-undermines-national-will
https://archive.ph/T3hUq

Israel holds trial for Al-Aqsa Mosque imam for alleged ‘incitement’
The charges, filed by Israeli prosecutors in August 2024, relate to two condolence speeches the preacher delivered in 2022, as well as his mourning of former Hamas chief Ismail Haniyeh, who was assassinated in the Iranian capital in 2024. An indictment against the imam was read during Tuesday’s trial session at the Magistrate’s Court in Jerusalem, according to an Anadolu reporter.
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/israel-holds-trial-for-al-aqsa-mosque-imam-for-alleged-incitement-/3747158
https://archive.ph/BxiFD

Riyadh Metro construction rife with migrant labour abuses, says Amnesty
According to the report, workers were charged "exorbitant" illegal fees to secure work and then "endured long, arduous hours in sometimes unsafe conditions for minimal, discriminatory pay". Workers were exploited even before they left home by a range of foreign and Saudi companies. The report mentions that over a decade, workers were asked to pay between $700 and $3,500 in recruitment fees to agents in their home countries, forcing many into debt.
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US federal workers would lose whistleblower safeguards under Trump rule
Specifically, the documents showed the rule would exclude senior employees from legal protections that prohibit U.S. government agencies from retaliating against whistleblowers who accuse them of wrongdoing, such as violating the law or wasting funds.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/us-federal-employees-would-lose-whistleblower-safeguards-under-trump-rule-2025-11-18/

Trump administration launches plan to dismantle Education Department
The Education Department’s office of elementary and secondary education, as well as its postsecondary education office, will move to the Labor Department, officials said. The agency’s Office of Indian Education will also move to the Interior Department while supervision of the Fulbright-Hays overseas research program and all of the government’s international education and foreign language initiatives will move to the State Department. Additionally, the department will send both a campus child care access and foreign medical school accreditation program to the Department of Health and Human Services.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/18/trump-administration-sets-out-massive-education-department-restructuring-plan-00656464
https://archive.ph/HAgP3

Congress passes bill to release ‘Epstein files’, sending measure to Trump
The United States Congress has approved a bill to release government documents related to sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, clearing the way for making the files public. The House of Representatives adopted the measure in a 427-1 vote on Tuesday, sending it to the Senate, which swiftly agreed to pass it by unanimous consent even before it was formally transmitted to the chamber.
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Die Linke’s Youth Passes a Pro-Palestinian Resolution — and the Party Attacks Them
Germany’s Left Party has always been committed to Zionism. Die Linke stalwarts like Gesine Lötzsch and Petra Pau take part in propaganda trips to Israel, while Bodo Ramelow complains about having to see pictures of murdered Palestinian children (“Hamas shit”). These are not minor figures in the party: two have been vice presidents of the German parliament, the Bundestag. When the German government called for a rally in support of Israel (attended by just a few thousand people), Die Linke co-chair Martin Schwirdewan expressed his solidarity. Yet things are changing. Since the elections in February, tens of thousands of new members have joined Die Linke, and many are instinctively opposed to the genocide in Gaza. The change can be seen most directly in the youth organization Linksjugend [‘solid]. At a congress in early November, 70 percent of delegates voted for a resolution, “Never again silent about genocide,” that recognized Israel’s “colonial and racist character.” This resolution put Linksjugend directly in the crosshairs of the right-wing press and their own party leadership.
https://www.leftvoice.org/die-linkes-youth-passes-a-pro-palestinian-resolution-and-the-party-attacks-them/

Your Party can overcome its problems — but compromise is needed
There are little or no underlying political differences, or at least none which could not be accommodated within the framework of a broad progressive electoral formation, which Your Party — or whatever it is ultimately called — must be to thrive. However, one issue is now a particular source of alarm. That is the evidence that the rancour within Your Party is affecting the broader relationship between the left and the Muslim communities. This has emerged in the form of sharp polemics over the issue of trans rights and “social conservatism” more generally. The unease felt in sections of otherwise supportive Muslim communities over attempts to make these touchstone issues appears to be among the reasons leading one MP, Blackburn’s Adnan Hussain, announcing that he will no longer play any part in the party. Another, autism scorebal Mohamed in Dewsbury, has expressed similar concerns, writing that “factions Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


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What is everyone's honest thoughts on the normalfag discourse that has been around on the internet, and in particular imageboards, for the past two decades? Why is there such an obsession with said normalfags? Is there any legitimate points to be extracted from it or is just self-indulgent whining?
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>>727477
makes me think of how to many chvds "transhumanist" is basically equivalent with "procensorship sjw". like thats why they use it so often

>>727475
That's the problem there really aren't any.

internet uyghas will talk all day about normies being hive minded community enslaved people dependent on society and external approval but go to the same forums everyday to interact with other people and seek approval themselves.

you are normal, you are just on the internet all day, truly exeptional autist beings don't need to talk to ANYONE or validate their opinions or identity externally, true autists just vibe, you don't really vibe.

>>727477
The difference is that one leaves the house and has a job and friends and relationships, while the other doesn't and resents the former because of this. All chuds wish they were dudebros deep inside, they cope by inverting the moral compass like the Christians did to the Romans.

>>727476
true on both being autistic and suburban but all the shit /pol/acks hate is arguably less mainstream than just being racist dork from the burbs like being gay furry who plays obscure indieRPGs is farther from what I would consider "mainstream" in the current US zeitgeist than some random channer who plays triple A titles.


/siberia/

 

He had the USSR, Yugoslavia, and China to choose from.
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>>724963
>1884
<Yugoslavia Established 1918
<USSR established 1922
<People's Republic of China 1949
sperg could've just fucked off back to Serbia and go home to Yugoslavia. Glad the dumbass choked to death on Oreos
>Sun will run out of fuel eventually.
lemme audit uranus

>>724963
>Sun will run out of fuel eventually.
True but the sun is effectively free energy for the rest of the Earth's lifetime. The Earth will be stripped of life by solar winds after plate tectonics comes to an end, destroying the electromagnetic field around earth, and that's long before the sun becomes a red giant and swallows the earth. So from a standpoint of energy consumption on Earth, solar is free as free gets.

>>724963
>Sun will run out of fuel eventually.
Why does the sun take so long to die?

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No wonder he died a virgin

>>724959
physics can eat my ass


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/PRC/ People's Republic of China 17
>Taking the grillpill aboard Tiangong.
Original threads:
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https://archive.ph/Ytckv

leftypol.org archives:
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>>2565479
>They had to back down
Trump had to back down from most trade disputes because they were asinine and counter-productive, are you going to argue that every manufacturing economy has huge leverage over the US?

>And there were never hints from them that it's going to happen.
literal fake news lmfao

>>2565486
>Trump had to back down from most trade disputes
lmao what do you mean, EU took it like a little bitch because they're a vassel and came out way worse from the deal.
>literal fake news lmfao
that was from Trump extending the ban deadline, they put out that message every three months. show me any announcement from bytedance saying oracle is buying tiktok. they have to get approval from xi and that hasn't happened. also notice your date is from sept 29, 1 month before negotiations even occured about it

what are those tricksy japanese up to now? tldr?

>>2565474
who cares. if they sell it they get cash and if they dont it gets banned

>>2565319
so you want them to invade palestine overthrow hamas and impose chinese rule on them?

>>2565592
NTA
>and impose chinese rule on them?
That sounds goooooooooooooooooooood, its a shame China hasn't done it yet.


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Ronaldo plays in Saudi Arabia, MrBeast opens a theme park in Saudi Arabia, Bill Burr preformed in Saudi Arabia, you know there was once a time a few decades ago people were debating “Should we or should we not buy oil from an absolute monarchy where women and queer people have no rights and also full of slavery and simultaneously committing genocide?” It’s insane that that is even something worth debating but still. A decade later people have basically just decided which one will maximize profit because that is how capitalism works. Capitalism literally dilutes morals.

im glad people dont give a fuck about retarded useless libshit like "consumer boycotts" anymore actually

"My blood money is better than your blood money!"

See the issue is willingly watching youtubers that show their face. I set a no-faces rule for my RSS reader and my YouTube feed has been excellent and normal.

>>727471
Bill Burr is the most disappointing of those because he used to pretend to have principles
idk I guess at the end of the day he's just another celebrity jackass so it was a mistake to expect anything better of him

>>727489
>Bill Burr is the most disappointing
Yeah I feel your pain, this was like hearing that Mark Hamill was Pro-Israel but worse because Bill Actually had some based takes like defending Luigi, he always stood up against Right-Wing-Cancel-Culture so I was really disappointed in him.


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by invitation of bronies & Tania
<Avatard RP reactionary leech is oUr fWiEnD u GuIsE
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Take this video & magnify it. 🔎
Fruits of Democracy in the West.
Far from making people a kindred people, it makes them a community of strangers & alienates people from each other. For wut? So Team A mocks Team B for a bit.
Destroy the parties, stop this war of all against all.

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>>721140
Volume 4 update >>>/anime/29402

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>>724365
Update for V4 Part II stream >>>/anime/29428

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It is dumb I have to make this image, but fr.
Monarchist legitimatists…
>No, it's illegitimate!
I don't care for Bourbonists, Orléanist, or Bonapartists.
These dynasties are all long gone.
It was injustice for the Romanovs to be killed, but Nature is also cruel. Empires rise and fall. These monarchies weren't going to last forever; naturally, like with any lifeform, you'd persist and seek to maintain its longevity as much as possible (when it is a truly living regime).
Yet if it been more than 2+ generations and over 100+ years, time to bury the axe and quit.
It would be better to expect to establish a new bloodline or dynasty at this point.
Defecting to
>muh constitution
Isn't going to bring these old dynasties back, and that might as well be the Law of Nature as far as any regimes go (however decent you think they might be, their ruin is inevitable).
After a certain point, after 2+ generations of able-bodied fighters or intrigue for 100+ years, that is more than generous amount of time to seriously take a restoration effort (I know of no restoration happening after 70+ years max, so 100+ years is a generous amount of time as far as I know).
The most stupid part is these same exact people are just as eager to overthrow any said monarch in life as they are to most stupidly and most stubbornly insist upon clinging to and restoring a monarchy or dynasty in death… (If only they were as loyal when they were alive (you know, when loyalty to a regime actually truly matters) rather than when they were finally dead, but go figure).


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By the invitation of EQG chads
>no hooves
<War of all against all edition
<Gunpowder Treason Day
King James VI & I movie:
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>>725989
>>725994
Original post for context

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It is kind of dumb I have to make this image, but fr.
Monarchist legitimatists are dumb.
>No, it's illegitimate!
I don't care for Bourbonists, Orléanist, or Bonapartists.
These dynasties are all long gone.
It was injustice for the Romanovs to be killed, but Nature is also cruel. Empires rise and fall. These monarchies weren't going to last forever; naturally, like with any lifeform, you'd persist and seek to maintain its longevity as much as possible (when it is a truly living regime).
Yet if it been more than 2+ generations and over 100+ years, time to bury the axe and quit.
It would be better to expect to establish a new bloodline or dynasty at this point.
Defecting to
>muh constitution
Isn't going to bring these old dynasties back, and that might as well be the Law of Nature as far as any regimes go (however decent you think they might be, their ruin is inevitable).
After a certain point, after 2+ generations of able-bodied fighters or intrigue for 100+ years, that is more than generous amount of time to seriously take a restoration effort (I know of no restoration happening after 70+ years max, so 100+ years is a generous amount of time as far as I know).
The most stupid part is these same exact people are just as eager to overthrow any said monarch in life as they are to most stupidly and most stubbornly insist upon clinging to and restoring a monarchy or dynasty in death… (If only they were as loyal when they were alive (you know, when loyalty to a regime actually truly matters) rather than when they were finally dead, but go figure).


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Shouldn't foids and moids be happy? Foids have the power and moids get to neet.
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>>727488
kys

cope and seethe

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wow who could have seen it coming

>>727487
>Shouldn't foids and moids be happy? Foids have the power and moids get to neet.
Is somebody saying they're unhappy? People are just shocked that le tradition is being overturned due to changes in material circumstances.
Whoa holy shit that's crazy dude.

>>727501
>>727501
>Is somebody saying they're unhappy?
From what I've seen, all we're getting is femcels and incels, and more people calling male sexuality misogyny

Somehow ops post is relevant. Let them marry the herps, and visa versa.


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Previous thread >>708795
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>>727198
Get a language learning app and chat with qt foreign girls. Probably only works if you're a whitoid and speak English or a European language.

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>>727290
>muh whitoid
can't you really just pretend to be south european if you're mena or persian? that's one easy way to disguise the "ugly" nationality by becoming italian

also the whole hot whiteoid thing doesn't work if you don't look hot, caucasians are the og crakkkas but if i had to bet armenians and georgians aren't as hot to foreign girls as french or czech, despite all three being whitoid

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TRVKE

>>727468
First one literally never happens, we've talked about this before anon

>>727470
it does happen


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tell me your most unhinged historical larpy sex fetish. don't tell me you have none, all imageboard addicts and history lovers have a few. sharing the few larps i caught in my lifetime

a girl fantasizing about being a european queen owning a harem of male slaves eating her out

a guy fantasizing about being a roman soldier and fucking boudica, or letting her take out all her anger and frustration on him with severe rape

being enlaved by dacian female raiders

fucking roman girls in toga while disscussing philosophy

being an icelandic skinny guy and getting captured and sold into gay slavery in the ottoman harem

young stalin

young drugged out hitler
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>>721716
Absolutely, without blinking.

>>710365
the reconquista was mostly hispanoids (christian) killing other hispanoids (muslims)

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how did the average NEETS live life like in the early 1900s until WW1?

how did the average incel and femcel live life like in the early 1900s until WW1?

how did the average hot chad and hot chadette live life like in the early 1900s until WW1?

how did the average femboy and boymoder live life like in the early 1900s until WW1?

how did the average popculture soiboy live life like in the early 1900s until WW1?

how did the average /nightwalks/ doomer live life like in the early 1900s until WW1?

how did the average chud chinlet live life like in the early 1900s until WW1?

how did the average normie live life like in the early 1900s until WW1?
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>>724001
pre-ww1 orgy with all of these people drool emoji

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its ogre romaboo, in real life, im the savage thirdie big uygha, and you're the firstie crakkka


/siberia/

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>animals were around for a long time before humans
<but when humans came around, animals slowly became livestock, or game
>humans were around for a long time before AI
<but when AI came around, humans slowly became livestock, or game
truke or puke?
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>>727407
I mean, we ARE special. Assuming you don't believe in Silurians, we are the first lifeform in the 4.5 TY of life on Earth to succesfully reproduce not only genetically, but also intellectually and technologically. (E.g. Lenin's genes have died with him, but his ideas still survive, as the existence of this website can attest). Since the whole "life" thing is about reproduction, this is already serious enough ground to claim that humans are more than just animals and constitute a [so far] special category of life.

>>727415
Bro, I can't. Please tell me you are memeing.
The earnest nature of your post - I can't do it man.

>>727400
Change is change, they all evolved the same amount.

>>727260
why would humans allow something they consciously create every aspect of the capability of doing that?

It was cool in sci fi but I never see it happening

we will win this thing when we invent portable EMT granades or fields that disable machines, just chuck em at the robots and watch them instantly die.

we might all get radiation poisoning but it will be worth it.


/siberia/

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How many women do you think schlurked it to the thought of you?
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probably 2

I think I cause women to miscarry and/or go sterile. You may need a hysterectomy after being in my presence.

probably none, i've only masturbated while imagining a real person i had seen irl once or twice, so idk how often other people do it. i have dick pics/vids on certain naughty sites so it is possible, but the only comments i got were from old men. i have had like 1 or 2 girls kind of flirt with me when i was in school but i was awkward enough that i completely fumbled both times. the first because i thought they were trolling me and the second because we were kind of interrupted by my parents coming home during the initial kind of physical flirting stages. i've had more success with men so far, as much as i am attracted to women physically i find it hard to meet women with common interests. frankly i find it hard to meet anyone with common interests, i'm pretty much exclusively into communism and military/sci-fi shit.

Probably around 10. I was the first male friend of a lot of girls in middle school and honestly, I was pretty cute. Then I had some hits and some misses in my late teenagehood and adulthood.
If we're counting men that number doubles.

>>727110
15-20 tbh, probably more since I get massive tunnel vision when it comes to having a social life.
>>727277
Same, most females are mid at best, or total hags.
>>727255
What she say she liked about you, bro?
>>727239
Good anon.

Good.


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People always bring up these people to say that there are ethical billionaires but that’s not true, these people are inherently bad by grasping to that amount of money. Yes George Lucas made some good movies, yes LeBron James is good at basketball, and no Taylor swift is not a good musician but that still doesn’t exonerate the greed of these people.
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>>726935
>People always bring up these people to say that there are ethical billionaires but that’s not true, these people are inherently bad by grasping to that amount of money. Yes George Lucas made some good movies, yes LeBron James is good at basketball, and no Taylor swift is not a good musician but that still doesn’t exonerate the greed of these people.
They didn't do these things in order to become billionaires. The stupid system rewarded them exorbitatntly for their skills contributing to entertainment slop. You're also missing the point, they didn't become billionaires by being good at making movies or playing ball or singing. They became billionaires through intellectual property shenanigans. Lucas has most of his fortune due to selling Star Wars to Disney plus getting the merchandise rights. James sells his likeness also for merchandise and advertising. Swift also got rich from royalties off her songs, having ensured she kept the rights instead of selling them to a studio.

These three people are also respectively pretty much at the top of their field in terms of financial success and marketability (the exception is that Lucas is second to Steven Spielberg). For directors, athletes, and musicians the vast vast vast majority never make it to the status of capitalist let alone billionaire.

even if the bourgeois were "ethical" why the FUCK would the proletariat care? what a dumbass thread

>>727412
GabeN lucked out by having Half Life be a huge success despite tons of trouble in production (1 and 2) and being the first mover on digital distribution of PC games. He is closer to a landlord than a capitalist because almost all of the wealth at Valve is effectively rent collected from steam sales. This is also a big part of why Valve is an oddball among large corpos instead of riddling their product with microtransactions and shit. They got there first and nobody has managed to make a storefront and game service that comes close to threatening their position so they can just sit fat and happy and maybe make a game once every ten years. They're also not publicly traded which is much more conservative for a corporation than usual and allows them to act according to what Gabe or his employees want instead of being dog walked by shareholders. The degree to which the internal politics live up to the dream of horizontalism they espouse is probably pretty small though based on what insiders have said.

The new push into hardware might change things but at this point they have so much money and influence it will probably not be that much bigger than the existing hardware they've put out.

>>727460
>He is closer to a landlord than a capitalist
………

>>727412
He was one of the first promoters of AI slop.
Valve had a partnership with OpenAI back when they were nobodies.


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one of the biggest things they teach in bourgeois economics is that "actually 100% employment is BAD! because it means people can't quit their jobs if they want to and the supply of labor in the labor market will be too low!" I see it dropped casually like it's just a matter-of-fact by people, especially "influencers" who aren't even bourgeois or economists because it's repeated so often. I hate this myth so fucking much for so many reasons, but it's obviously functioning as an ideological justification for the reserve army of labor whether the people repeating it realize that or not (they usually don't even know what the reserve army of labor is). People quit their jobs because their wages are too low, instead of getting organized, because getting organized is harder than quitting and begging another porky for a job. Then when they're begging porky for another job, which can take literally months, they are getting application after application rejected for no good reason, and finally they get desperate and accept a job that is as bad or even worse than their previous job. Most people desire stable employment and a living wage and only quit their job because their wage is shit. So saying or implying that having an unemployment rate of 5-10% is "good" because "people can quit their jobs due to high mobility in the labor market!" functions to justify this state of affairs.

Porky has always opposed 100% unemployment. Pic and vid related.
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>>2564933
>Capitalist crisis destroys level of life, it's not JUST crisis of overproduction.
To separate "crisis" with "destruction of life" is asinine. You defy Karl Marx Thought. Karl Marx said all capitalist crises are overproduction. Crisis is when imperialists steal too much, not too little.
>In case of USA, crisis manifests as US goods and services as not being market competitive, i.e. American population was deemed excessive by the Hand of the Free Market
Material laws of competition and value operate to full effect in monopolist capitalism. When vulgar imperialists say that they suffer from high prices, they only demand more plunder.

>>2565182
Imperialists taxing themselves is given but UBI is an imperialist tax on all workers and peasants.

>Porky has always opposed 100% unemployment.
I'm guessing you made a mistake there, but no they haven't been, porkies sometimes liked Keynes and were trying to reach for full national employement after WW2 at least in the west, through government programs and such.

I was always taught that's it's impossible. That some people who can work don't work. They are in between jobs. They got hired for a job but they haven't started yet.

>>2565174
my point is that calling service sector workers "leeches" when it's the capitalists who outsourced the commodity production jobs is reactionary. the capitalists are the leeches


/leftypol/

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How do you reconcile that this revisionist is responsible for China being the only hope left for socialists? What does China‘s success change about Marxist thought?
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Who cares? The libration of the working class will be done by the working class, first winning the battle for democracy, that is, establishing itself the ruling class of a nation. The PRC ain't gonna save you bro, it's up to us

>>2565498
No shit you simpleton. I‘m asking for how Deng‘s success changes Marxist thought.

>>2522744
>this revisionist
By accepting the fact that Marxism is a science and not a religious cult.

>>2565504
Marxism is a ideology, not a science

REMINDER THAT SOCIALISM IN ONE COUNTRY DIDN'T WORK
REMINDER THAT MARX WANTED THE PRODUCTIVE FORCES TO BE GLOBALLY ADVANCED SO THAT THE REVOLUTION WILL BE GLOBAL
REMINDER THAT CHINA IS SPEEDRUNNING THE INSUSTRIALIZATION IN AFRICA


/leftypol/

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Why are leftists so butt hurt about AI? Is it really just because so many leftists are artists and musicians and the like? Seems petty tbh. Luxury gay space communism is right around the corner and they want to throw out the baby with the bath water cuz ai isn’t 100% accurate 100% of the time.


Also fuck your art uygha. It sucks. Art has sucked since Picasso.
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The problem with AI is it's not good at anything but it's being put in charge of critical functions so that nobody will be held accountable when problems happen. Also it uses an ungodly amount of water and electricity because the algorithms are very dumb and just brute force everything.

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>>2565546
While they are certainly to the left of scum like (you), their ass is still firmly planted on the right side of the spectrum. So shut the fuck up, culture warrior. The best I can do is offer a separate mass grave, but no more than 6 meters away.

>>2565526
>Why are leftists so butt hurt about AI?
Its mostly the college educated middle class feeling threatened that they now have to compete with a robot willing to do the same artsy fartsy stuff they do for $0per hour

An ironic twist from the days when they'd mock the working class for complaining about immigrants willing to work for $3 per hour, all the other shit they come up with is to get away from this irony because if they whinge about it too much the working class would catch on and begin mocking them for it.

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labor aristocracy doesn't like to be displaced, I used to be able to do basically nothing from home and get a paycheck, now I'm under threath of actually working a real job and I hate it.

I'm the problem here, I'm a solider of the burger empire who uses his money earned by going on zoom calls to buy weed, the people actually working and producing the food that goes in my belly need to rise up and kill me! hang me on the street! I'm evil!

>>2565526
LLM slop is not going to bring us communism you retard.
This is a siberia thread btw.


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BBC Brothers? Is it over for us? What happened?

Sorry I don't sag my pants (just not comfortable for me) and I have an ABC.

>>727456
But he was sleeping. It's not comfortable to sleep with your pants tight around your waste. He left them halfway on because he didn't have a blanket and it was cold in the room.

Okay

>>727464
I don't have my buttcheeks hanging out while sleeping. Wearing pants at the waist doesn't have to be so tight that it prevents falling asleep.

She called him back later that night for her nightly BBC treatment, and of course he delivered (his pants are half down to increase ease of access to his slong btw)


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They aren't wrong per say, they're factually correct on most issues but beyond their criticism of the UCLA/Lovaas-Method model of ABA and section 14(c) (the later of which they rarely even bring up) it's all slave morality; I have projected my own transness on to them, and being medicated for it, and being with the trans community, made me realize that. Being autistic is, in most cases disabling, and as a hvn you should lucky that you aren't being treated much worse.

You will never have a real culture.

Accept your gender-affirming ABA.


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>Just centralise the whole decentralised internet under like three critical providers, bro. what could possibly go wrong. It's brings economy of scale, bro.
How do socialists answer to this?
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>>31747
Humanity has evolved past the need for Windows.



<Linux boxes get compromised and dragged into botnets all the time

>>31748
> calling a computer a “box”

>centralization is le bad support le small services
painfully middle class thread

>>31750
We just had a proof that in some cases centralization can fuck things up royally by introducing an unnecessary points of failure. Where half of the internet went down thanks to some inters vibecoding.

>>31750
Please actually learn how web infrastructure works instead of trying to figure the world through memes.


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