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Is he correct? Do african nations hav a right to fight back against both economic and cultural western imperialism?
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No this is pretty bad if you ask me and this will forever be a stain on his legacy, this is nothing new as many left wing leaders suppressed homosexuality before such as Stalin, Mao, and Castro, the latter eventually apologizing for it. Although I am not saying this to excuse Traore's actions I still think this is blowback for how the west acts so high and mighty about being "progressive" with gay people while oppressing the global south.

I would be on the side of homosexuals, but they turned into chuds since the '90s, most homosexual men voted for the AfD, Trump is very overtly gay, every Republican convention sees an increase in Grindr app usage and gay bars still have "No entry" signs for anybody non-white, the person that started the Great Replacement theory was also a homosexual male.

I just feel bad for the LBT without the G.

>>731395
>ooga booga leader does something
Who cares?

>>731400
Perfect post. No notes.

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>>731400
Agreed but also I am reminded of this quote


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/pol/ is not taking the timy cute car news very well. Apparently it's not masuline enough.

>>2583312
anon that post is obviously a lib being sarcastic

>>2583314
I dont believe in sarvasm any more, anon.

>>2583303
It actually is. For example, supporting the Afghan monarchy against British imperialism.

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>>2583332
context for those who don't know what you're talking about


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How can one see piss when toilets are so golden? edition.

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Evidence of the influence and origin of neo-Nazi groups in Ukraine

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>>2583316
visiting north korea is goals.

>>2583316
Oh no, how are we supposed to oppose Russia as communists now?

>>2583316
Based. Nazis gave aid to Japan during WWII, and got out of paying any reparation afterwards. Its only natural that DPRK would requisition a reparation from the modern Nazis.

https://tass.com/world/2053311

>BUENOS AIRES, December 3. /TASS/. The House of Representatives (lower house) of the Colombian Congress (parliament) has approved a bill to join the international convention aimed at combating the recruitment of mercenaries, according to a session broadcast on the chamber’s YouTube channel.

>Colombian mercenaries have recently been increasingly spotted among the ranks of the Ukrainian army.

>The bill passed with 94 votes in favor and 17 against. It will now be sent to the president for signature. The initiative had previously been approved by the Senate.

>Last August, the South American country’s government submitted the bill to parliament to ratify the international convention in order to curb the use of Colombian citizens in foreign conflicts, including in Ukraine and Sudan.

Colombian mercs die with such high frequency in Ukraine, that Colombia wants to ban mercenary work altogether now. Place your bets on how quickly Philippines will also ban mercenarydom

>>2583247
>being UKRANIAN means keeping the fatty out of the shot


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/US-Venezuela war/ #3
>Third Heaven Edition

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Thread in which we discuss the latest aggression-based-on-lies by the USA against a country which did not attack it.
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>>2583239
The military supports whoever feeds them. They don't have anything guaranteed without Maduro.

>>2581576
>GDP grew 5 times after a wholesale bombing of the country and tens of millions of refugees
Clown graph and clown metric

>>2583333
People who die or emigrate from a country during war no longer count in postwar GDP statistics. And if their abandoned wealth is inherited/seized by those who stay alive and inside the country, it can give the appearance of GDP per capita increasing after a war, even though the GDP increase was the result of devastation rather than increased production. So yeah. The metric can be misleading, especially if you don't adjust for purchasing power parity, and don't take into account the context.

>>2583337
It's GDP, not per capita GDP.

Face it: GDP is a clown metric, because it shows growth during literal genocides and when whole cities get erased.

>>2583338
> GDP is a clown metric, because it shows growth during literal genocides and when whole cities get erased.
I was agreeing with you. just adding nuance. You're right that it's not per capita. I'm saying even if it were per capita, and even if it were adjusted for PPP, it would still give the same false appearance, because it would count the wealth transfer from the dead/emigrants to the living people inside the country as "economic activity." I'm elaborating on WHY it's a clown metric.


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>>2581998
marx wants to overcome the concept of value by overcoming the abstraction of labour in exchange (e.g. via central planning). thats why he doesnt consider labour certificates "money", and so we can call them coupons. of course, you would call it slavery to be paid a salary in coupons, but in communism, this is "freedom", apparently. marx also states directly that labour must be exploited by the state in the form of surplus labour and taxation to expand production. thus, i call marx's communism "state capitalism".
>>2582003
price = exchange-value = SNLT
an easy marxist formula. lets read this:
<the sum of the prices of production of all commodities produced in society — the totality of all branches of production — is equal to the sum of their values.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch09.htm
i.e. total price = total value
this is why as marx says, whatever is sold above value must be balanced by what is sold below. when considered totally of capital composition therefore, the rate of surplus value is able to be determined so as to measure the value of commodities:
<C = c + v + s
as regards your elevator analogy, its still true that the average is affected by varying quantities, so the rate of profit still equalises at the division of its total sum. but i will ask you - if 5 people are weighed, and the total is 500 kilograms, what is the average weight of the persons? what is true is that a larger sample size creates better results, but averages exist nonetheless.

so, by reading marx's words directly (i.e. total price = total value), have you accepted that the ratio of values in exchange are measured by SNLT in prices, and that this is how marx intended himself to be interpreted? if not, may you explain why? thanks. 🙂

>>2548723
Workers power within capitalism has very little to do with communism in that case. If this is true, why do MLs insist on political capture before the development of new economic relations?

>>2582249
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>>2582249
>whatever is sold above value must be balanced by what is sold below.

You said things are sold at value here:
>>2570972
>value is abstract labour
>exchange-value is the quantity of abstract labour
Just to make sure that you really intended to say that, you got asked by post >>2571815 this:
>You say here the ratios of abstract labor going into commodities is equal to their exchange ratios
And you replied:
>>2571906
>theyre the same thing
And later on, you said:
>>2582249
>price = exchange-value = SNLT
Yep, this is literally the same post where you then go on to say things exchange above their value and below it. By the value definition you gave (and have given again and again), this is impossible. Do you want to change your definition?

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>>2583248
>You said things are sold at value
to marx, they are, as a component of total price matching total value, by the equalisation of the rate of profit. he writes this explicitly, and you havent denied it yet, so you must be growing in your reason.
>Do you want to change your definition?
its not my definition, its marx's. you have failed to give an alternative definition of "value" from exchange-value. i repeat:
<the sum of the prices of production of all commodities produced in society […] is equal to the sum of their values.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894-c3/ch09.htm
so then, total value = total price.
what can be more clear? (C = c + v + s)

but please, state your specific criticisms of what im writing, because i want to help you learn. 😮‍💨


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>burgerland
>bourgeoisville located outside of a major city
>cant fucking breathe, feeling like i'm about to pass out
>call ambulance
>takes at least 6 minutes to arrive
>arrive at hospital
>put in wheelchair and taken to waiting area
>there's a fucking line
>wait 20 minutes
>get triaged, EKG, wait another 10 minutes
>get a room, blood drawn, wait some more
>see the doctor for like 5 minutes, describe symptoms
>at least an hour later get breathing drug
>get discharged shortly after, can breathe a bit better but still feel like shit and nothing shows up on the bare minimum tests they do
>"how are you getting home?"
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I've been having to take my 78 year old grandmother to her doctors appointments lately because she's senile, and everyone else in the family fucked off a long time ago. She's not racist or anything weird like that, just nobody else is willing to take care of her. About a month ago she fell and traumatized her arthritic hand. We thought it was broken but the x rays showed nothing. Turns out her tendons just became massively swolen from the fall, causing immobility in her hand. Now she needs physical therapy but we have to wait another month for her insurance to approve it. Meanwhile, at this appoitnment, I had to fill out all her paperwork for her because she literally can't remember anything anymore and has trouble finding things like her insurance card and her photo ID in her wallet, which has like a whole deck of cards in it. She doesn't know how to use a smartphone or an email so I also have to do sign up to use my email for everything involving her. It's been a total nightmare. I'm actually leaving out some other key details to avoid saying too much about myself. What this experience has made me realize is I don't want to burden my kids with taking care of me when I get old and my wife and I have both privately discussed finding humane ways to commit suicide if it ever comes to that.

>>2582512
> Meanwhile, at this appoitnment, I had to fill out all her paperwork for her because she literally can't remember anything anymore and has trouble finding things like her insurance card and her photo ID in her wallet, which has like a whole deck of cards in it
also it was physical paperwork. like 10 pages, a total nightmare, and it's her writing hand she injured, and also some of the pages were basically trying to get us to sign up for random bullshit having nothing to do with the matter at hand, so I had to read carefully. Forgot to mention that part.

>>2582252
>muh i'd die if i don't have a drink GIB ME DRINK RIGHT NOOOOW

Alcoholics actually believe this lol

>>2583329
I'm not alcoholic, but I have lived with alcoholics, who I find very annoying by the way, but what anon said about withdrawl is true, not in all cases, but in very severe cases of alcoholism.

When someone who is physically dependent on alcohol suddenly stops drinking, their nervous system, which was previously kept suppressed by alcohol, rebounds into a hyper‑excited state. This can lead to, seizures, delirium tremens (DTs), severe confusion, agitation, fever, high blood pressure, rapid heart rate, electrolyte disturbances, cardiovascular collapse. Delirium tremens has a mortality rate of approximately 5–15% without treatment, but this drops significantly with proper medical care.

Now imagine if you had a alcohol withdrawl seizure while driving to work in busy traffic on the freeway, or while standing on a ladder at work. It's very easy to see how this can be lethal by proxy (accidents resulting) but cardiovascular collapse is also lethal. If you don't believe me, ask the doctor next time you go. They'll back me up on this.

>>2583329
t. person that gets headaches when they miss their coffee


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>>43633

>ban all dissenting opinions to try to force a hugbox
>"low quality" "reactionary"

Welcome to r/leftypol; similar issue is ongoing under /brg/.


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Why do so many on /leftypol/ take imperialist pinkwashing propaganda at face value when 10 years before Obama it was the Christian fundamentalists and conservatives who were saying "kill all the ragheads, bomb the entire 3rd world" and the whole "gay liberal imperialism" thing is a fairly recent development in American society, rather than some kind of eternal truth going back to the Monroe Doctrine?

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furthermore, why do LGBT people get singled out as somehow uniquely imperialist when the vast majority of cishet reactionaries also support imperialism?


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>"I shouldn't be shamed for not living up to capitalist society's expectations of me, I should be allowed to be my authentic self without being criticized and I shouldn't have to change myself based on some arbitrary capitalist standard"

This seems to be the sentiment that dominates the minds of zoomers and most millennials that drives them towards the left whether we want to admit it or not. This is what makes a lot of younger people under 40 embrace anti-capitalist politics, question social norms that are the superstructure of modern capitalism, become anti-eugenics, embrace new identity groups, and so on. Look no further than Tumblr from the mid 2010s or TikTok today. My question is, why haven't any communist or socialist parties been able to gather these types of people up? The DSA's entire strategy is simply economistic "healthcare and unions" babble that they weaponize to push the Democrats further to the left. Yet we shouldn't forget that the millennial left (namely, the people who participated in the anti-war movement in the 2000s and Occupy in 2011-12) all folded into DSA by the end of the 2010s. So why can't the DSA bring in those frustrated zoomers from TikTok, the ones who make videos on queerness and unmasking autism and mental health and why nearly all romantic relationships are inherently predatory or whatever? Maybe if the people on that platform were in a political party they'd have actual pragmatic political goals.
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>>2574004
gather them to do what exactly

>>2582963
I've only become more miserable since becoming a communist. It's the whole "if you only knew how bad things really are" meme.

>>2582719
>>2582912
I posted the Socialism 4 All SoundCloud. Also none of the texts I suggested are related to Foucault. "Labor and Monopoly Capital" is really the only big tome anyhow.

>>2582269
>>2582942
>>2582951
Social media and the cultural dynamics that have sprung from it are largely to blame. Your identity is your brand and has to compete with everyone else's brand. People become hyper-fixated on themselves as individuals. Plus, social media causes people to be scrutinized by hundreds of others whom they never met, so there's an impetus to appear like an innocent victim as a way of shielding yourself from scrutiny and gathering up pity/sympathy from others. It's a giant dopamine rush, basically.

The problem is, this spills over into the political realm and everyone starts basing their politics on trauma or some other part of their brand regardless if it has any practicality for political struggle.

>>2582963
this is true, but even non-traumatized non-teens "communism" is like this. the average /leftypol/ user is doing exactly the same thing except instead of an approximation of emotional honesty, they bring the idiocy of indulging in social poses on an anonymous board. which most anonymous board users do in one form or another, but idiocy is idiocy.

>>2583261
the flip side of this is that communism is a great brand for marketing. edgy enough that it shows you're not totally uncool, but fundamentally concerned with human dignity in a way that avoids the "i am obviously evil and enjoy human suffering" tendencies of even the center-right.

but for social media socialism and communism would be deader than ever. the "serious" socialists and communists of the west are the worst of the bunch.


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Why is there basically no leftist anti-war movement? Seriously, among reddit tier leftoids basically no one cares about Trump's terroristic mass murder campaign against fishermen. It's almost surreal. What the fuck happpened?
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>>2583285
That's because "anti-imperialism" is kind of B.S. (as a "principle"), as there are reactionary anti-imperialists. (Well, sort of … perhaps hypocritical.) In India, there was Subhas Chandra Bose who was invited to Germany to meet Hitler because he opposed British rule in India. But are you going to support Hitler because he's against the British? I don't think so. There are also anti-imperialists (perhaps hypocritical) in the United States who have reactionary politics. Nick Fuentes is like that and he recalls Pat Buchanan.

People criticize "anti-fascism" as also being narrow. It's not wrong to be against fascism, but what's your alternative? Is it Hillary Clinton? Is your alternative to American imperialism supporting the Russian, Iranian, and Chinese governments? The first question: is that an alternative? I'm not sure it is, because I don't think the one country that could plausibly take over from the U.S., China, wants to do that. China is going to take over as the military guarantor of Saudi security? They're not going to do it. I don't think these guys are going to build a big movement in the U.S. while openly doing that either. Is it necessary to do that??? It comes across very unaware and people look at them as freaks.

In Russia, the Bolsheviks adopted a strategy of "revolutionary defeatism" in which the defeat of the Russian government in a war gave rise to a social and political revolution. Their goal was the working class to conquer political power. This was successful. They did not support Germany. The Chinese communists adopted a different policy during World War II (which has been called "revolutionary defensism") when China was invaded by Japan. The idea was to outflank the KMT… not in being nationalists like the KMT… but being better defenders of the country from an imperial onslaught. That is not only NOT the situation in the United States, but that war ended with Japan's surrender *to* the United States, which is an imperialist power that was stronger than Japan, and nuked them twice. The U.S. has also lost wars and suffered embarrassing retreats from Vietnam, Afghanistan (to name two of them) and there was no resulting social or political revolution that occurred in the immediate aftermath. Actually the U.S. got Reagan and Trump (again) as president.

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>>2583298
>That's because "anti-imperialism" is kind of B.S. (as a "principle")
wtf are you saying I just want pic related to stop happening
>as there are reactionary anti-imperialists. (Well, sort of … perhaps hypocritical.)
yeah there are reactionaries who want wealth redistribution as well. what's your point?
>In India, there was Subhas Chandra Bose who was invited to Germany to meet Hitler because he opposed British rule in India. But are you going to support Hitler because he's against the British? I don't think so.
That's not what anti imperialism means
>There are also anti-imperialists (perhaps hypocritical) in the United States who have reactionary politics. Nick Fuentes is like that and he recalls Pat Buchanan.
I'm just sick of all the endless "realpolitik" where I have to tolerate some reactionary nonsense no matter who I work with. Look at DSA, founded by a splitter who wouldn't oppose imperialism in Vietnam. Look at CPUSA. Tailing democrats. Look at ACP. Calling gay people degenerate and imperialist. Never can you simply take a step forward. You always have to throw someone or something under the bus, and you will be remembered for that.

>People criticize "anti-fascism" as also being narrow. It's not wrong to be against fascism, but what's your alternative? Is it Hillary Clinton? Is your alternative to American imperialism supporting the Russian, Iranian, and Chinese governments? The first question: is that an alternative? I'm not sure it is, because I don't think the one country that could plausibly take over from the U.S., China, wants to do that. China is going to take over as the military guarantor of Saudi security? They're not going to do it. I don't think these guys are going to build a big movement in the U.S. while openly doing that either. Is it necessary to do that??? It comes across very unaware and people look at them as freaks.
Why would China need to step in as guarantor of Saudi security? Not sure I understand the relevance of that statement.

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>>2583318
>Like wtf? Why do we have to roll back LGBT rights to the 1950s to be anti imperialist? That makes no sense. I'm not even LGBT. It's just so disgusting and I try to talk to people under 30 and they call me "soylennial" and say I "don't get it." WTF does this disgusting reactionary opportunism have to do with ending US imperialism?
obama used gay rights in iran, iraq, afghanistan, russia, libya, syria etc. as a wedge to manufacture consent for US imperialism. israel pinkwashes their brutal apartheid state. trump is the hangover from obama's liberal ascendency and because of that everyone that lived through obama is fatigued from his two faced butchery. everyone that sees the latest genocide in palestine feels nothing but antipathy to the libtards feeding the same line of bullshit.

it's not like queers are to blame for how they've been instrumentalised, but at the same time they joined in with the liberal hand-wringing blaming muslims for the resurgence of retrograde misogyny and homophobia that is obama's legacy.

turn your weapons against your state type shit, civil war

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>>2583324
>obama used gay rights in iran, iraq, afghanistan, russia, libya, syria etc. as a wedge to manufacture consent for US imperialism. israel pinkwashes their brutal apartheid state.
yeah i'm fully aware what pinkwashing is, but you also have these reactionaries who take pinkwashing at face value. NATO also used "women's rights" as a fake excuse in Afghanistan. If you take these fake justifications for imperialism at face value (I don't) you come to the erroneous conclusion that being against discrimination is "imperialist". That's fucking stupid! Why would you take the imperialist's lies at face value when they use culture war stuff as a justification for what they were going to do anyway? America could be culturally exactly like saudi arabia, but would still be imperialist, because of its military, its intelligence apparatus, its capitalists, the way it uses sanctions, the way it uses loans, the way it carries out coups. None of that apparatus requires being nice to gay people or women. That's just the excuse they use.

>trump is the hangover from obama's liberal ascendency and because of that everyone that lived through obama is fatigued from his two faced butchery.
yeah i never even voted for obama despite my disgust with bush. when he ran the first time I was too young to vote, when he ran the second time it was already evident to me that he was a two faced snake continuing Bush's GWOT. what frustrated me about the "hangover" after Obama was that everyone seemed to forget about Bush and Reagan and all the Republicans who had been full throated supporters of the racist imperialist zionist so called "war on terror" somehow got away with pretending they were "anti war" through figures like Trump and Rand Paul.

>everyone that sees the latest genocide in palestine feels nothing but antipathy to the libtards feeding the same line of bullshit.
Obviously

>it's not like queers are to blame for how they've been instrumentalised
Yes, that's waht I'm saying

>but at the same time they joined in with the liberal
you're saying an entire demographic did that, you are joining in with the scapegoating I'm complaining about. The majority of people in Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


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one of the biggest things they teach in bourgeois economics is that "actually 100% employment is BAD! because it means people can't quit their jobs if they want to and the supply of labor in the labor market will be too low!" I see it dropped casually like it's just a matter-of-fact by people, especially "influencers" who aren't even bourgeois or economists because it's repeated so often. I hate this myth so fucking much for so many reasons, but it's obviously functioning as an ideological justification for the reserve army of labor whether the people repeating it realize that or not (they usually don't even know what the reserve army of labor is). People quit their jobs because their wages are too low, instead of getting organized, because getting organized is harder than quitting and begging another porky for a job. Then when they're begging porky for another job, which can take literally months, they are getting application after application rejected for no good reason, and finally they get desperate and accept a job that is as bad or even worse than their previous job. Most people desire stable employment and a living wage and only quit their job because their wage is shit. So saying or implying that having an unemployment rate of 5-10% is "good" because "people can quit their jobs due to high mobility in the labor market!" functions to justify this state of affairs.

Porky has always opposed 100% unemployment. Pic and vid related.
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>>2568483
Undervalued currency means a currency that isn't allowed to be traded freely on the market, and upon which a downward pressure is exerted by the govt that issues the currency.

>>2568491
No infinite value engines exist in economics, just like no perpetual engines exist in physics. "Undervaluing currency" means there is a way to artificially change value of goods - meaning such a perpetual engine. And we know for a fact that's bullshit, Marx went over examples of such machines in the first chapter of Kapital

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>>2563763
>one of the biggest things they teach in bourgeois economics is that "actually 100% employment is BAD!
In the Manifest Marx and Engels are explicit: Equal liability of all to work. 100% employment is explicit socialist policy. Like your image says, the US and UK freaked out about the ITO charter for a reason.

>>2568676
>"Undervaluing currency" means there is a way to artificially change value of goods - meaning such a perpetual engine
I'm not sure I follow.

>>2568483
>They didn't, they got outcompeted by native producers of numerous nations who did the same job cheaper, most notable example of such a nation being China.
once again, you're acting like that's a mutually exclusive explanation. America outsourced BECAUSE they got outcompeted, and America's reserve currency strategy dictated letting this problem get worse because they followed an import based strategy rather than an export based strategy. Past declining empires like the British and Dutch made similar mistakes. The reserve currency thing isn't a meme. These problems all feed into each other. Imperial core capitalists also become seekers of interest and rent, rather than profit, through the process of financialization, which is another reason the industrial base in the imperial core declines. You win power by being more productive, but then once you're at the top you refuse to stay productive, and instead rest on your imperialist laurels, seeking rent and interest, outsourcing production, letting up-and-coming nations outcompete you, and letting money printer go Brrrr because you think you can coup and sanction everyone to death forever.


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A thread focused on discussing the parasocial relationships cultivated by the Almighty Algorithm to generate profit off of our atomization and society's commodification of petty internet drama.
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CORE THEORY
>The Society of the Spectacle (1967) by Guy Debord
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<The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction (1936) by Walter Benjamin
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>>2582784
>audio cuts out
didn't he say some shit like "have a good one pal"?

>>2582796
Where am I, Kiwifarms? Fuck off.

>>2582860
Based response honestly. Power to the babyfurs, death to the MTW sexpats

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>>2583260
>Austria under the Fatherland Front didn't do anything to Alto Adige/South Tyrol.
That's correct but (this is splitting hairs a bit) despite them fashing themselves up a bit in terms of aesthetics, they strike me as more of a conservative-authoritarian regime of which there were a lot of them at the time. More like if Hindenburg had managed to set up an authoritarian state in Germany instead of the Nazis. The national socialists tried to overthrow them.

Some trivia but Dolfuss was also really tiny, he was less than 5 feet tall.

>>2582777
>bdsm doctor

lost my shit fucking lol


/leftypol/

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Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.

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>>2583148
Why let the cpgb-ml speak when you can speak for them?

>>2583002
There need not be any mechanism, although the fact they're already doing it and already meeting a huge chunk of the world's needs is a factor.
If you and I are equally good at building chairs, it's nevertheless more efficient for me to specialise in making the various pieces (legs, seat, back, etc) and you to specialise in assembling them, or vice versa.

>>2583016
Shipping is basically free and repairs are more of a design problem than a distance one.
In any case, we're getting side tracked from the question. For argument sake let's say a magic computer provides all the manufactured goods we could ever want: how, then, does one structure a socialist service economy?

They can just decide no one gets a trial by jury in Bongistan huh?

>>2583121
Webseries to pitch as a pilot to the BBC I guess. Pretty accurate tbh and hilarious the seething in the comments for a mirror being held up.
>>2582308
100% this is the sort of stuff I've wanted the left to do for a long time. Instead of just vague slogans, the left should come ahead with actual policy frameworks to show up Neolibs as the hacks they are.
>>2582595
No, as a former Green, this is just how Green parties go. Green parties are mostly the realm of upper-middle class 6 figure yuppies.
This means they turn into basically Open Borders Democrat Party LARPing Tumblr wokescolds (Australian Greens) or Open borders psychotic warhawk rainbow neocons who like bikes (European Greens). Polanski to me just reads as a even more gay version of Adam Bandt.
This is why I think the Greens will largely top out around 15% come election time with 5% swing in either direction. This is because I've watched this exact same sort of rhetoric and reshift happen in the Australian Greens where they had large initial boost, but then stalled around 15% then crashed and burned for becoming basically a "Open borders Tumblr" party first and foremost.
It could be worse though Greens could have elected a Baerbock.
>>2583137
Good local MP, Good organizer, terrible leader.
>>2583183
The UK is actually the outlier on this, most countries have what the UK is changing to now.
https://magistrates.judiciary.uk/
If you have time, by filling out a form, you can literally be a magistrate. It's a volunteer position with zero qualifications needed. You can even claim 130 quid a day for doing it.
Honestly the UK left could easily take over the lower rungs of the judiciary if they actually knew anything about how British institutions actually function.

>>2583106
Ok but we're talking about a socialist Britain here where these issues wouldn't be a problem. Lower currency value is irrelevant if we're not interested in global markets.

>>2583175
Individual people aren't the same as countries though. It's more efficient to use mass production yes but it's also more efficient all else being equal to have the chair leg factory next to the chair assembly factory. It also is, I feel, socially beneficial and less alienating for some kid to be like "oh yeah my dad helped assemble your washing machine!"

As for your second question, surely people would just work at their local service place to serve others. Like if you love ice cream you can work at the ice cream stand. Or if you want less hours and more free time you can work a 'harder' and/or more unpleasant job like being a plumber. I'm not sure what question you're exactly asking.


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>55.8% of the respondents say the Communist state itself was also good.

>66.2% of Romanians believe Communist leader Nicolae Ceaușescu was a "GOOD LEADER"

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>>2579947
>leftcom regurgitating unironic anticommunist counterarguments
no contradiction

>>2579947
>It's just nostalgia!! These things can only be explained by my essentialist pseudo psychoanalysis of boomers
Lol and you have the gall to call others libs

>>2579947
>Old who Lived under socialism:Its nostalgia
>young who has a positive view: you dont know your history
Also Ceaușescus popularity is in the youth as well to the point the Romanian government is clamping down on it. Look at this anti-commie burger get upset about some young university students saying positive things about the socialist period. These are supposed to be the most pro-EU

>>2580550

>If you are poor: You are envious.
>If you are rich: You are a hypocrite.
>If you don't have a don't have a degree: You are ignorant.
>If you do have a degree: You are disconnected/utopian.

Anyone care to add to the list? Maybe:

>If you are an incel: You are bitter.
>If you have big family: You had too many kids.
>If you are a worker in the public sector: You are entitled.
>If you are a worker in the private sector: You are resentful and/or lack entrepreneurship.

>>2578889
They've shot him and his wife without trial or anything approaching legality precisely because he actually had high approval ratings


/siberia/

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Post something when ever you visit this board.
Also post Teto
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>>731233
She has incredible legs

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>>731412
Are we truly allowed to gaze upon such beauty?

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me on the left

>>731423
I am highly jealous, Rei has a nice jacket


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can i hang out here im from vladovostok but im trapped in an american libertarians body and am very left wing i tried to teach him about rape culture but he exorcised me

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>im from vladovostok but im trapped in an american libertarians body
Hi Steven.


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How do I cope with the fact that i'm probably genderfluid?

For years now ive constantly been conflicted with my gender, wanting to be a girl but also wanting to just be a femboy. Ive been told by many that im likely some type of non-binary, but I dont want to be. I just either want to be either a normal trans girl or a femboy, but if I identify as genderfluid then I fear that people wont see me as a real transgirl or as a real femboy, so it would be like I just dont get to be either.

God, whats wrong with me? Why couldnt I have just been born as a normal gender-binary-fitting person? I dont want to be genderfluid.
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>>5209
you are already a normal person OP. what your idea of a "girl" and a "femboy" is?

>>5222
>What are the things that make you want to be a "boy" and not a woman?
There's something about presenting femininely while still identifying as a boy that i find both novel and appealing.

Another reason is that being referred to as a girl just doesnt feel right to me. I briefly did identify as trans in a few online communities, but I often felt a discomforting sense that I was intruding on an identity that im not apart of, that I dont belong. Occasionally I did feel fine being referred to as a girl online, but most of the time it felt very wrong to me. I never felt this way when it comes to being in femboy communities though.

Lastly and most minor of the reasons, I just cant imagine myself in a straight relationship as a trans woman. Dating straight men seems absolutely awful. However, I can very much imagine myself dating another gay guy as a femboy, it feels a lot more desirable to me.

>Keep in mind "femmen" currently aren't a real thing.
The term itself makes me want to vomit tbh. I absolutely hate being referred to as a man. I honestly dont know what ill do about the inevitability of aging.

>>5247
>I often felt a discomforting sense that I was intruding on an identity that im not apart of, that I dont belong
This is something you can overcome. I would go so far to say it's good to be conscious of the fact, transitioning doesn't instantly negate your past as a boy/man.
>Dating straight men seems absolutely awful.
You know, that's a classic straight woman experience, which in their case makes them not want to date men at all. Tbh i don't know any gay men personally, so i can't judge their character, yet since being gay became "normal", i think a lot of them want to conform to some version of heterosexual norms. Men saying they're gay or bisexual for dating trans woman is also a common enough occurence, but they're pretty resoundingly seen as assholes for that.

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There's nothing to cope with, you're just scared of being weird, which is a spook.

I think I'm probably some flavor of genderfluid too, where being a woman and being agender are like the tide on the beach. I don't really think about it and just think of myself as the average of the two since over time it does average out in the middle.

Just think of yourself as a she/they femboy woman thingy, or whatever you think it averages out too, and don't stress if you don't have the words to describe it.

>>5209
thats called being a transvestite, its different than being transgender


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https://www.farmtransparency.org/photos?id=m3rzl5irwjs2yhzbvoim

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>>731426
redpilling website, OP


/siberia/

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>Developed the best water filters against biological agents, the first filters to be able to change piss into drinkable water
>Made medicine to change the entire history of war where most casualties were losses to diseases
>Produced crucial research on germ transmissions
>Created research for heat and cold resistance
>Developed treatments against biological weapons
>Started the basis for treatment against gangrene and septic shock
>Contributed to fundametal research in modern science for blood transfusions and organ transplants
>Made the first development of Anti-chemical Warfare Drugs
>Overall advanced the research in the fields of medicine and chemistry for all of humanity to benefit from - revolutionized science and medicine
>Pic unrelated, it was unit seven three one of course
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>>731346
It is but we have to do it for science, under communism only really bad people will be tortured for science

>>731311
Uh, Nietzsche vindicated?

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>>731311
what if… it was possible to learn all these things without impregnating women by rape and then jumping up and down on their pregnant bellies, stomping on them until they died and the baby shot out?

>>731433
>what if… it was possible to learn all these things without impregnating women by rape and then jumping up and down on their pregnant bellies, stomping on them until they died and the baby shot out?
That would just be silly. All that effort just to have an easier way all along.
Theres always patient 0, there's always a first person, you don't understand the point of human experiments. F-

>>731433
Should've had a part on the usage of bacteriological warfare during the Korean war, in both Korea and China.


/siberia/

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I wish they could just dedicate more of their time to it, have more frequent episodes and stuff, make it like a simpsons kind of thing. Everything else on adult swim is trash, I just want more smiling friends, I'd really appreciate if they just cut off the other projects and focused more on smiling friends.
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>>731364
>>731366
Also the animation is clearly a labor of love so it has an eyecandy appeal even if it isn't always funny
>>731348
>What's good then?
You will like any of the big projects by PFFR if you're on leftypol. Look up Vernon Chatman he's a great comedy writer - Wonder Showzen is a good opening

>>731371
Yea Wonder Showzen was great but I meant like currently airing shows and stuff. Imo Wonder Showzen was comparable to most of the MDE stuff but people just stigmatize World Peace because of Hyde rather than what it actually was as a show.

>>730802
>Xitter libs, gooners and Peddit atheists
all reactionaries and chuds

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>>731420
>>731371
>wonder showzen

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>>730805
>if i say something that's true, but add the word heckin, the truth becomes soy, and that means i heckin win


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why the fuck do westoids have awful reasons to hate japan? i hate japan too because of its imperialist nature and capitalist economic system. but i never understood the people who claim they hate japan, and it’s because of pedophilia and rape, and the pedo or rape in question are just drawings instead of pulling up actual statistics of pedophilia or rape being normalized in that nation. all i know is that misogyny and racism are a problem in japan so there’s probably a hint already that pedophilia and rape are also normalized in japan as well. this isn’t trying to defend japan or whatever but im rather concerned about how they’re not being critical when criticizing a nation like japan
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>>731103
Except it's not at all "harmless" to degenerate the moral fabric of society.

>>731103
Absolute moronic logic. It's like saying because someone can't stop the US war machine from killing people abroad that you shouldn't stop a serial killer from killing a person near you even if you have the means to do so.

>>731106
>stop a serial killer from killing a person
You have delusions of granduer. You're just rambling on the internet.

I can't do anything about imperialist wars so I'll content myself by petitioning for FPS games to be banned.

>>731103
>>731108
>>731121
Why are lolifags so schizophrenic?


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This thread is for the discussion of cybercommunism, the planning of the socialist economy by computerized means, including discussions of related topics and creators. Drama belongs in /isg/

Reading
Towards a New Socialism by Paul Cockshott and Allin Cottrell: http://ricardo.ecn.wfu.edu/~cottrell/socialism_book/
Brain of the Firm by Stafford Beer
Cybernetic Revolutionaries by Eden Medina
Cybernetics: Or the Control and Communication in the Animal and the Machine and The Human Use of Human Beings (1st edition) by Norbert Wiener
Economic cybernetics by Nikolay Veduta
People's Republic of Walmart by Leigh Phillips and Michal Rozworski
Red Plenty by Francis Spufford
Economics in kind, Total socialisation and A system of socialisation by Otto Neurath (Incommensurability, Ecology, and Planning: Neurath in the Socialist Calculation Debate by Thomas Uebel provides a summary)

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>Paul Cockshott
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>>2576720
all porkies are class conscious lol

>>2576294 (me)
Continuing with my boring exploration.

I know the hydraulic procedure does not have any prices, but could we do a scalar evaluation of the resources after they got assigned with this procedure, just on the basis of the assignment pattern? (You know, for the accountants.) We could simply do this: For a resource, we look at which pseudo-firm received some of it and just add all these pseudo-firms' RAP scores together. It seems to me that, ''within the constraints that we neither look at excess stocks nor at the request forms nor anything else besides the assignment pattern, this is actually the most fitting measure we can do. If this measure feels weird, it's really due to the method the measure was made for.

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>>2578921
if they were truly class conscious they wouldn't be their own gravediggers

>>2583286
anon this anlysis fails to realize that porkie doesnt care about what happens after they die. A lot of the porkie will die before collapse happens so who gives a shit about lel future

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>>2583306
if they can't or don't want to perpetuate class society after they die then they aren't really class conscious, they're just individualists, nihilists, and egoists. For the bourgeoisie to be conscious as a class they would have to want society to continue after they die.

But the analysis in the picture DOESEtake this into account. They hoard more wealth than they can spend in one life time. A lot of them could retire and never run out of money but they choose to continue attending board meetings and doing interviews and shit. They dress up and go places and act important and try to force regulations in their favor. They try to extend their copyrights more than a century. They try to use life extension tech. Elon Musk has a ton of kids. They really seem to think the Earth will survive their bullshit and they want their progeny to inherit their wealth,, on the one hand, but they continue to act in ways which guarantee their downfall, and/or the destruction of the earth, on the other hand. They want to live forever through life extension tech, on the one hand, but they don't create a political situation that tolerates their perpetual existence, on the other hand. They absolutely, as a class, seem to care about the future, but are very bad at understanding that they have outlived their historical usefulness as a class.


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Probably my most "Idpol" opinion is that on some subconscious level, people pay more attention to what’s happening in Palestine partly because Palestinians are perceived as more Caucasian or white-adjacent compared with the victims of crises in places like Sudan, Myanmar, or Somalia. Again I don’t think most people make this distinction intentionally or out of active racism, it’s just a bias that many groups, including white people and Arabs across the political spectrum, end up participating in without realizing it.
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OMG

The zionist-adjacent loops you are drawing to pass for anti-Israel pro-palestine chauvinism for something that can much more easily be explained:

By the simple fact that indeed, Zionism is mostly rooted (other than Israel) in western, specifically NATO and allied places, and therefore the Palestinian question is necessarily more present and, like everything, warped by the liberal spin on it.

>>2582431
>Plus news reporting, journalists making that very bias will write about one more than the other. So it compounds multiplicatively.
>the actual reason is that israel exercises a lot of power in the us and the internet and global media in general are all american or downstream from american media
>>2582780
>As you said events like the Malian army being assraped by jihadists or the killings in Sudan are just business as usual in the American mind.
The media can shape what's "important" and what isn't, but it also responds to what gets attention as well because different news outlets compete with each other for traffic. I can tell you that anything involving Africa gets a fraction of the traffic compared to other conflicts. People see anything involving Africa in a headline and they keep scrolling. Now the underlying reasons for that might be a racial bias, but you'll hear Israel's internet soldiers say "but what about Africa, doesn't the Western left care about them" and okay sure but it's not like they give a crap about Africans either.

It might also be a bit different in France. Large parts of Africa speak French. The coups in the Sahel, which were also anti-French, got a lot more attention in France, but in the U.S. it's just another group of military officers.

>>2582518
>It's easier to mobilise around Palestine because we've had a lot of practice, due to having the last 80 years to organise around doing it.
>>2583101
>Its because organization relating to Palestine has been working for decades, where as Sudan/Myanmar is an issue that only exploded in the past few years.
Yeah, I think this is a big one. There's a whole organization around it that's been around for many years. It has been shaped by the influence of Palestinian diaspora intellectuals going back decades.

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Its because Jesus comes from Palestine and westerners, even "atheist" ones are still brainwashed by christpoopiany

I'm not a Zionist so PLEASE don't ban me for this.

I've never understood why the western left places so much significance on Israel-Palestine. There are comrades whose ENTIRE "leftist persona" is Palestine and I've never understood it. Geopolitically speaking, the conflict matters very, very little to global capitalism. This idea that the Arab World can only become socialist if Israel becomes Palestine again is absurd. Saudi Arabia vs. Iran is a much bigger conflict in the SWANA than Israel-Palestine.

>>2582914
Fuck you if you believe we need to know the whole world as if its not a system that perpetuates these problems


/siberia/

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It just hit me we dont have any general chit-chat threat, so here it is. Post whatever you want, share whatever you want.
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im crazy and gay and stupid and delusional but i cant let go of my dreams

the first 30 years of my life were wasted because i was too afraid and too damaged to do anything and now im so far behind that ill never be able to catch up

im cursed to live a completely unremarkable life and my desire to achieve something is why. if i could do it then i wouldn't dream about it; i would just do it. i have to live with the fact that im a disgusting shit covered word who thinks himself better than all the other worms for no reason other than his sick hatred and elitism and i can't change this

1983

>>731298
I'm you kinda.
Gay 33 chronic daydreamer.

>>731312
Damn.

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I saw this lust provoking image and came up with a time wasting question but I am not in the mood of making a thread.


/siberia/

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Choosing a language edition

I do not know why we do not have an active language learning thread, so here you go.
If you got other links you think are worthy of being on here, do mention them.

>Language learning communities
r/languagelearning
https://www.reddit.com/r/languagelearning/

Language learner's forum
https://forum.language-learners.org/

Linguaholic's forum
https://linguaholic.com/

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>>25414
I want to learn russian, so I was planning on starting with Michel Thomas Method and then following 4chan's /int/ guide. But the OP's reddit guide seems better, I'll use it instead. Thanks OP

>>25414
est-ce que tu viens du fil de /lang/ sur /int/ ?

i speak english, french and spanish. i'd like to learn chinese and persian next.
>>25415
are you from iran?

>>25423

Hey, man i forgot leftypol was even a thing. Yes, i am Iranian.

>>25422

Your welcome friend, goodluck and have fun.

>>25435
are you (ethnic) persian?


/anime/

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Togashi might aswell have given enough on coherent nen scaling with post rose meruem and adult gon. The nen abilities were the worst addition to the system since togashi never clarified actual rules to them so we got people pulling stuff like phasing through objects or turning into vehicles of all things. Then there’s the moronic decision to make the chimera ants sympathetic by giving them arbitrary arcs when the dudes were trying to kill five million people for no reason—but hey this went on for so long in the arc I guess the audience was supposed to accept that the ants were partially human. Togashi could’ve done so much with the dark continent and ngl but he just doesn’t. Personally I don’t care for the blood and gore—this manga was always pretty violent. What did stand out was how badly kite was handled. It’s like how oda just killed off ace so quickly after his introduction despite him looking up to be a really big contributor to the cast. Also I hate how leorio and kurapika were just entirely sidelined for three straight arcs in a row—mind you, the chimera ant arc alone is 116 chapters long.

Not even bait at this point. I'm assuming you're an 2011 anime only, because only those tards have these sort of brainworms. You're brain is so poisoned by twitter agendas, that you can't appreciate a good story (by animanga standards anyway).

Nen rules are clearly established and within those boundaries they get reasonable additions and deeper mechanics, like Nen Beasts or Nen Curses.
>we got people pulling stuff like phasing through objects
Seperating your Nen from your body and creating a Nen space with rules has been clearly established as a main strength of emitters since greed island which result in something akin to small-medium range teleportation. Knov and Leorio are emitters and they designed their hatsu around this mechanic
>turning into vehicles of all things
Clever application of a conjurer ability. Not every conjurer is a badass with chains like Kurapika.
>Then there’s the moronic decision to make the chimera ants sympathetic by giving them arbitrary arcs when the dudes were trying to kill five million people for no reason

Chimera ants are sympathetic because they inherit the traits of the species they consume, eg. eating humans backfired in the end, which is something Meruem acknowledges in his fight against Netero (saying the human ego disrupts the collective bond between ants). Sure they have no reason to kill people, but humans don't have a reason either. One of the points of the arc is to highlight the aribtrary nature of these conflicts. Chimera Ants are strong enough to kill an unarmed human, so they do that to increase the strength of their colony. An average ant with no intelligence doesn't need more reason. The problems start the more intelligent they get when they start eating humans. That I need to explain this to you on a supposedly leftist board is indicative of state of this shithole.

>I guess the audience was supposed to accept that the ants were partially human
You sound really dumb, no offence. They were partially human, that is just fact. You can choose, wether you want to feel sorry for them or not in the end. That ain't the point of the arc. Netero represented humanity at its best and worst and showed all the meathead shonentards that love to powerscale, that it means nothing when you can nuke somebody to oblivion. Chimera Ants may be the most powerfulPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>29510
> I'm assuming you're an 2011 anime only
With the exception of the election arc, I’ve largely only read the manga of this series. I think the anime is too censored to get the feel of this series done right

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>>29511
>>29510
And no. I did read about the fact that chimera ants take the traits of their host via phagocytosis. That’s why some could even use nen and remember the memories of the people they ate.

That didnt suddenly change my opinion over how I felt they should’ve been handled by the midpoint of the arc. I *don’t feel any remorse for these creatures*. Plenty were fucked up and evil even before being reborn as ants and the manga explicitly outlines this. No I don’t care for Togashis messages on humans somehow being worse than ants because that message is the easiest example of false equivalence one can point out.

The chimera ants were objective villains. They run around eating whatever makes them stronger, predate on the weak, and have a rugged hierarchy built on physicality and combat prowess over intention and reason. They murdered people often without any intention of growing their own colonies but out of malice and sadistic pleasure. You really wanna go and compare that to people starting wars with each other over resource scarcity, long running cycles of hatred based on unresolved tensions surrounding oppressive regimes and inequality, or even just for the sake of liberation from a worse entity? That part of the arc (it was around the point when meruem started opening up to kugomi I think) in particular made me feel even less sympathy for these creatures than their initial opening just for the fact that I felt being gaslit by the author.

No. The ants are straight villains and there’s no reason not to believe so. Nothing in the chapters redeems the majority of them no matter how many excuses you want to make up for them and nothing will. Their presence alone has created five thousand major threats to known world and 400k+ people were murdered anyways within weeks of their arrival in the ngl even with the hunter association on their asses.

Maturity is often not morally grey.

>>29512
> I *don’t feel any remorse for these creatures*. Plenty were fucked up and evil even before being reborn as ants and the manga explicitly outlines this.
Yes, Chimera Ants are extremely vicious by nature as outlined by Kite. The mutation that was the Queen only gave them the means to consume even bigger food, than they are normally used to. Its probably safer to say that originally all Chimera Ants on the Dark Continent are this big

>No I don’t care for Togashis messages on humans somehow being worse than ants because that message is the easiest example of false equivalence one can point out.

Not the point of this arc and if you were being nitpicky, I would say that this "Humans (Gon) lost their humanity, while Chimera Ants (Meruem) gained theirs is a weak reading of the CA Arc.
Togashi tried to show that Humans have persisted and will come out on top for a reason and even in the face of seemingly impossible adversary, find a means to snatch victory. The Ants are also a narrative setup to the even bigger threats of the dark continent and additionaly a middle finger to every retarded power scaler by Togashi. The Ants gaining human qualities and the following presentation of some isolated qualities like empathy, fanaticism, honor in form of the Royal Guards and Meruem are just a nice way for Togashi to show what makes human different from other animals. Contrary to many interpretations (which are surface imo), Meruem is contrasted best to Tserriednich and not Gon. Meruem was tipping to the side of empathy in the end because of Komugi, while Tserriednich will tip to the side of cruelty and sadism.
>The chimera ants were objective villains. They run around eating whatever makes them stronger, predate on the weak, and have a rugged hierarchy built on physicality and combat prowess over intention and reason.
Sure, they are animals with no sense of morality in the sense that humans have. You sound like some moralist in any case

>They murdered people often without any intention of growing their own colonies but out of malice and sadistic pleasure.
Thats after they gain human traits (admittedly the traits of "bad" and "malicious " humans, but still. Togashi in the end has a liberal understanding of Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>29512
>Maturity is often not morally grey.
It actually is most of the time. Doesn't mean that this should hinder one in their resolve to achieve whatever objectives they outlined. Netero says the same thing in his fight with Meruem. He knows what his mission is and doesn't need to portray is as some moral victory which it wasn't. That is maturity and not this propaganda leaflet you are writing


/siberia/

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>>731204
I'm not against this post getting oranged, but why is posting the ragebait itself OK?

>>731275
>I'm not against this post getting oranged, but why is posting the ragebait itself OK?
this anon is two steps ahead of the game.
i suspect ragebait is left up because it drives "engagement" and lets reactionaries go mask off so mods can ban them

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>>731201
I don't believe this story because when I give a woman head during foreplay I also finger her before using my penis at all. If someone with a micropenis was really being lied to by his gf like this, it would be a very obvious lie that fell apart immediately. What kind of "medical problem" would allow entry by fingers and tongue but disallow entry by micropenis? Nobody, not even a redditor on r/smalldickproblems would fall for this for more than a week, let alone fall for it for 3 fucking years. Obvious ragebait is obvious. I have more thoughts but I'll keep it to this.

>>731282
to clarify, i don't believe this story either because
>3 years
is way too fucking much for things like that but
>What kind of "medical problem" would allow entry by fingers and tongue but disallow entry by micropenis?
depends on how "micro" the penis is. if it's 2-4 times the circumference of a standard finger or a tampon, theoretically a woman with vaginismus could have issues with entry. or it could be a woman with a thick enough hymen (and a small opening inside it, or the hymen being of the septate kind - a stretch of skin in the middle bisecting the introitus) to cause pain on penetration attempts, enough for her to not proceed further

I am once again posting about how uncomfortable I feel in my gf's presence while she sleeps in the other room. At least I have advent of code to calm me down. I wish I didn't feel lust or loneliness.


/siberia/

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Post anything furry-related, be it artwork, stories, videos, music or whatever else you might find interesting with animal people in it. Scalies, avians, insectoids, synths, aeromorphs and such also appreciated.
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>>727108
Cutee

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yiff reich kommisars vs red furr commisars

who would win? (in a debate of course)


>>727860
>tfw you will never booty marauder furry nazis with your red furr comrades.
why live.

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LYNXLEYS ARE ZIONISTS
Disney plants brainwash FURRY HOMOFASH to uncritically goon to MUH SMOL BEAN COLONIZER
Fuck his family drama! REPTILE INTIFADA!!


/siberia/

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Your dumbadbpos that should live in hel. TKedme m3dia term


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