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The 4chan Pass is literally the ultimate utility for AI spammers. For just $20 a year, you get to bypass the only real barrier—captchas. It allows bot nets to flood the board with LLM-generated slop 24/7 without getting flagged by the automated spam filters. Since Pass users get higher trust scores and can post through VPNs/proxies, it’s basically a 'license to shill.' If you’re wondering why /g/ is 50% dead internet noise, thank the Pass for making automation cheap and frictionless.

posted this on /g/. guess what, in less than 3 minutes i got a highly precise reply. bots. they are everywhere.

Does the new capchas even do anything to deter bots, given how easy they are? Like you wouldn't need AI, just a script per type of puzzle.

>>32639
Are you trolling, m8? Those new captchas take like twice as long to complete as the simple post you were trying to make.

>>32727
>skim instructions that are like 1 in 7 possible types of puzzles
>slide to the end
>slide to answer
>repeat two more times
>post
6 to 7 seconds max sober, 6 to 9 seconds drunk.
I don't think that's just me having giga-brain puzzle autism. They're much easier and less error-prone puzzles than the old "line up the broken warped and noisified code and type it" puzzle. You only have to do it once, while the old one it's inevitable that one will fumble it a few times before getting it right due to the noise making fake letters.



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The other thread hit bump limit and I'm addicted to talking about the birth of the ̶a̶l̶l̶-̶k̶n̶o̶w̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶c̶o̶m̶p̶u̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶g̶o̶d̶ the biggest financial bubble in history and the coming jobless eschaton, post your AI news here

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>>32705
There is also now something of a counterincentive to creating new languages and libraries at all because before LLMs can reliably write new code in them you need extensive examples and then for the models to be retrained on datasets containing those examples. So this only worsens the stagnation

>>32716
I think Dario doesn’t care because these people assume they are going to become God-Kings anyway, and AI will dominate and destroy the world with power and terror never before seen. Dario just wants this to be righteously done in the name of liberalism, even though concepts like “democracy” are incoherent under the dominion of the AGI he imagines. He’s just, at the core, extremely afraid that “heaven will be Chinese.”

Hegseth is a just an alcoholic retard and an ape. Altman’s swiftly evil behavior has made him out to be a terrible actor as well. I think this debacle has done a huge amount of damage to the perception of the entire technology. They just don’t care because they’re betting on the swarm of blood powered nanobots to be launched before the next election.

How to fight back LLMs and Big Tech data scraping?

I have read about putting hidden links for LLMs and web crawlers. The link would open another page with links. If the LLM or web scraper follows any links on that page, it would either get blacklisted or the server would start feeding spam pages to them (and those spam pages lead to other spam pages, ad infinitum). Another way is to deliver spam pages that are incomplete and they get longer and longer overtime. You can generate the spam pages with markov chains or LLMs. Look up "Nepenthes" and theCPAN module Games::Dissociate for inspiration. Another approach would be to require proof of work (mkproof or anubis?

You could poison the content itself.. You can add certain small modifications to images to make AI models break (specific methods are called "glazing" or project nightshade). Also, if you could somehow trick LLMs to train with content generated with another LLM, it kind of makes the AI model less good than before (see, "model collapse").

>>32728
with anubis? i suppose you could also just hide immense blocks of comments and prompt injections into your fontend code, the current crop of mid-tier frontier models are all summarizing context which tends to make them "forget" initial instructions, because standard attention is expensive, at a slight disservice to your users i suppose

>>32728
>Also, if you could somehow trick LLMs to train with content generated with another LLM, it kind of makes the AI model less good than before (see, "model collapse").
AI companies love synthetic data. They feed models slop for more than half of their diet right now. What model collapse does is cut the output distribution and every single thing AI companies do on top of pretrained models does that, such as fine-tunung, adding instruct and thinking capabilities, but especially RLHF. AI bad people miss that AI companies don't care about model quality, they're just benchmaxxing to give the investor another number that go up, also many of them barely use any real internet data now.



 

one of the key asymmetrical advantages that the (imperialist) military superpowers enjoy is highly advanced air defense missile systems. these systems can intercept a fair amount of incoming projectiles, but they miss a lot too and are extremely expensive.

why not just send thousands of explosive drones in a big grid pattern into the sky, make them hover there and detonate the closest ones when the drone grid detects a missile passing through? the drone grid can intercept multiple missiles simultaneously, is self-healing, low-tech, and inexpensive.

this could allow 3rd world countries to massively level up their air defense capabilities, thereby increasing 3rd world power.



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Post your desktops, here is my steamdeck. Even if it's not "riced" it would be nice to see the desktop, does apple have screenfetch still? I hope you have a good day.

i like how your screenfetch logs multiple errors when trying to retrieve the percentage of available space in your hard drive, nice touch.

OP, I…

>>32720
divide by zero lmao. makes sense screenfetch would be written by a script kiddy

>>32723
Notice how it doesn't panic and screenfetch still finishes, that's the power of powershell



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Discord is fucked (will require age verification now) and conventional social media has been unbearable for a while. Time for another paradigm shift in anonymous Internet communication. And no forums are not coming back, you gotta get over it. The next thing will probably be an obvious downgrade in the same way Reddit was.
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>>32541
>You dipshits
Tingnoter or the "get a job" gif guy? Only two posters here have turned goomba fallacy into a full on syndrome.
>have been saying this since fucking COVID, lmfao.
It's been true since COVID. There's a growing number of forums. Simple as. It won't be The Next Big Thing, but there's a noticable resurgence in forums.
>Are you on Bluesky by any chance?
Stop shilling your mediocre attempt to compete with Activitypub, no one cares about AT protocol.

At least that explains where this weird non-discourse came from, you're from Twitter v2: waffle narwal shoelaces edition.

>>32530
Based af. Discord groomers on suicide watch.

>>32547
>Tingnoter or the "get a job" gif guy?
>goomba fallacy
What the fuck are you even talking about, faggot.

<there were 4 users

<5 years later there are a grand total of 6 users now!!! we are SO back
You should work on marketing.

>>32548
>>32546
>>32541
>>32543
>we need to regulate the internet…because of chuds and groomers!
Yeah I'm sure the FBI and Palantir is on our side and has our best interests at heart. Remember that one of the biggest age-verification companies (Persona) has direct ties to Peter Thiel

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This wasn't really supposed to be the main topic of the thread but I guess w/e. Anyway, new retarded age verification law just dropped. Probably impossible to enforce and will be struck down or modified down the line somehow, but this is still insane. A bunch of governments and private orgs just started pushing for shit like this all within the span of months and everyone's just going "eh what can we do". Am I being histrionic, is this not crazy? Should we not be taking this seriously?



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Not so funny now is it?
You have 18 months to organize before youre thrown into the wood chipper :^)
Well maybe more while you take up a lower paying manual job
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>>32687
2026 the year of giving up

i already have a cs job, not even a bad one, and i'm more or less in the same mode. i don't expect to still be in the industry by the end of 2027. there will definitely still be jobs but my heart is not in it to be in the tiny percentile that will retain them.

>>32712
(meant to reply to >>32687 )

there will still be jobs because for millenials because recent graduates will be totally useless and unable to do anything that doesn't involve chatGPT. it's kind of insane if you think about it, that they had the pandemic that fucked up high school, then they had LLMs in college to replace all the critical thinking skills they weren't able to acquire during the pandemic, it's the perfect storm. we're going to have a crop of professionals who can't do anything without an ipad and $400 monthly subscriptions. the west has completely destroyed the brains of an entire generation, and for what?

and before you say "learning is useless" or whatever, the upper echelon of the tech industry is specifically sending their kids to schools that have low-tech learning programs. doing critical thinking really will become a class differentiator, your kids will be taught math by some chatgpt nightmare bot and assisted by some guy who barely knows how to read and write, this is the future until the chinese easily roll us over after americans become too stupid to dress themselves correctly



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Hello, /tech/

I am trying to register an account on riseup.net, but they require an invite code. If you can spare an invite code, please email it to me, I would really appreciate it.

[email protected]
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>>27788
>don't you think that using a service that is more popular draws less heat to (You) individually?
Absolutely not.
German law enforcement requested the totality of Riseup donators infos to the payment processor back in 2017.
Cockli is under 'attack' because they are big and popular.
Windows get more CVE per year because they are more popular

>there is no difference to the user if their PGP encrypted messages are stored in plain text or encrypted, you shouldn't trust your security to a third party if you can avoid it

I agree
But why are you saying "the cock.li TOS is "don't do crime" and they won't ever know you're committing crime since the e-mails are encrypted" in the same post lmao?
They both do. You should use GPG on both.

>BUT, from a purely functional perspective, cock.li is objectively superior to riseup when it comes to protecting your privacy, if you're serious about security i'm sure you'll understand why it's preferable to lock your door with an ugly key rather than keep it open

Again, I don't think you understand who's using riseup. Hint: Not internet schizos who think the CIA will target them specifically like 99% of cockli users (the other 1% are doing cybercrime or CSAM)

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>>27802
>cock.li is being threatened with closure by glowies
<riseup continues to operate with absolutely no pressure from the powers that be
this was supposed to be a dig at cock.li? if riseup actually threatened them like cock.li they wouldn't be this comfortable, plus the fact that they want to crack down on cock.li shows that it's a service that serves your privacy well, otherwise they would attempt to infiltrate and subvert rather than shut down
i rest my case

>>27803
They are not threatening Cockli with closure. Vince wants to close it if they try anything. Not the same thing.
It's understandable but some people would prefer to keep being reachable as it wont change anything for them (GPG use + metadata being already spied on anyway) and they may need it as it's their only mean of communication with some people (like a journalist and his source, just for example).
And it may not even be true at all, for all we know maybe Vince is just trying to grab a few $. I hope not but it's a possibility.

>riseup continues to operate with absolutely no pressure from the powers that be

They were under 2 FBI gag orders a few years ago. Idk but that's some pressure.
Now they have onions, end to end encryption (irrc) and still push people to use GPG and keep ransomware operator at bay with their invite only system, that may explain why they have less pressure.

Again, please stop acting like you don't understand that. I think, I hope (as you said you work in infosec), you are just -acting- stupid.

Could I get a code too?
[email protected]




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Make a modular dumb phone from FPGAs (like TinyFPGA, Lattice iCE40, or something open source), an open RISC-V core (like VexRiscV), keypad and screen (non-touch), run it on a Linux kernel to send texts over the LoRa network and possibly do other things. No proprietary baseband or Wifi hardware. That's the only "safe" cell phone there is because cell networks are paywalled, proprietary (rely on baseband), and are heavily monitored and controlled by the FCC.

>>32672
Or hell, instead of Linux, use RTOS or bare metal.

or just dont use a phone

Every now and then, privacy experts propose an idea that would only be usable by someone with prerequisite technical/hardware experience. It won't scale to the masses.

I am not calling my Grandma over a custom hardware project from across the country. The people who can't fix printers are not supporting custom hardware phones.

Meshtastic does not scale to a population of over 1 Million in a major metropolitan area.

I appreciate the enthusiasm.

>>32672
pinephone (pro) has an open source baseband firmware you can install on it and it works and i've been using it
FPGAs with open toolchains are dogshit slow. there was a talk where a guy booted linux on the fastest open FPGA available and it took like 24 hours to boot.



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<Computer networking is the practice of connecting two or more computing devices to enable data exchange and resource sharing, using either physical cables or wireless signals. Key components include end devices (like computers and printers), media (cables or radio waves), protocols (rules for communication), and networking devices (such as routers and switches). These networks range in size from small Local Area Networks (LANs) in homes to expansive Wide Area Networks (WANs) that span the globe, like the internet

Thread to discuss computer networking. I thought we could use one because networking has an unusually long shelf life for IT skills, unlike programming and even linux to an extent, networking hasn't changed (at least very much) because its basically the physics of IT.
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>>31765
dont like it dont respond, no ones forcing you to discuss networking

What is some useful stuff to learn in terms of networking?

>>32588
Nftables
iproute
vyos
protocols
Staring at wireshark

>>32588

# Basic Terms
Software Defined Networking
IDS/IPS (Intrusion Prevention System)
IPv6 & implementation
Placing IPv4 Addresses inside of IPv6 addresses for simplicity
NAT (Network Address Translation)
SLA (Service Level Agreement): Maintain certain levels of uptime for your activist house.
Encrypted DNS Implementations
The domain .local or .internal

# Federal Power
- The knowledge that HTTPS is not resistant to Quantum Computers and that the NSA can save obscure amounts of data in Tape Storage for save now, decrypt later attacks.
- Americans can seize Domain Names with martial law and war time power acts. This means Crimethinc, the Anarchist Library, & Leftypol will lose control of their domain names within the next decade following a US vs China war regarding Tiawan, China in 2035.
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i have a site2site wireguard vpn that lets push backups from my homelab to another rack in my grandparent's basement



 

Am probably going to be switching to Windows (first time, other than public school computers), and QWERTY for work. This means giving up a whole load of my configuration, and sort of starting computing from scratch. Found a few interesting tools to make the operating system a little more usable:

- MSMG (https://msmgtoolkit.in/) to strip down the install to something a little more manageable.
- komorebi (https://github.com/LGUG2Z/komorebi) to bring tiling windows managers to Microsoft Windows.
- shutup10++ (https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10) to disable much of the telemetry used by the system (if this isn't already removed by MSMG).
- AHK (https://www.autohotkey.com/) to make keyboard and mouse macros.

This is excluding typical packages with good reputation like Firefox, VLC, or FooBar2000. Just wondering what all you use to make Microsoft Windows a bit more like home.
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>>27157
>desktop linux
hah, not familiar, think have run chroot before though… Now that think of it not sure even feel up to setting up a new PC at the moment…

>>27159
>>desktop linux
90% of proprietary software with a linux port only tests on ubuntu and often expects systemd, dbus, etc. to be present.
>there are multiple which are pretty good for software development (e.g. gentoo, nix, guix, etc.)
Good for software development doesn't mean le hacker distro. It means software you need for development is already pre-packaged, which is nearly always the case on debian.

>>27163
>90% of proprietary software with a linux port only tests on ubuntu and often expects systemd, dbus, etc. to be present.
It's been awhile, last heard Ubuntu was due to be phased out for PopOS! due to the Canonical Amazon deal, or something of the like. Guess shouldn't be surprised about what you're saying anyway.

>It means software you need for development is already pre-packaged, which is nearly always the case on debian.

That's fair, and Devaun (as the distro still run on my non-Mac laptop) is most familiar to me.

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I finally got around to setting up my Windows machine configuration follows:

Native Applications and OS:
- Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
- VSCode
- Outlook
- Office 365
- Microsoft Terminal

Productivity:
- winget
- PowerToys (FancyZones for window management)
- AutoHotkey (Two scripts so far to make tiling near automatic with cursor movement)
- Python

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Yesterday I installed a couple more applications:
- VLC
- Syncthing
The latter lets me run sync to my phone, and between my two installs.
This also means having better backups than just my flashdrive.
I also forgot to mention that I ran Shutup10+ on my install.



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