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"War can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun." - Chairman Mao
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Do you fill put an application form or is it a job you make it to through connections? Is there a formula?

I have no money, no job and no purpose.

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>This is FOG or Forward Observations Group. A group of mercenaries funded by former US Army Special Forces that is in Ukraine now

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Mercenary Strike Team consisting of Navy SEALs, Green Berets, Delta Force Operators, & Legionnaires, hired by the UAE to conduct Targeted Assassinations against Al-Islah in Yemen. 2015

I’ve been out of the Middle East for a while now, but I have some connections still there. It’s pretty surreal that I can sit in my office jerking off and within minutes see fresh war footage.



 

Turns out the F-15 is a dogshit fighter

The US has already lost three in a frendly fire insident, one from Iranian SAMs, and now rumers of a third F-15 downed over Iraq by an iranian fighter jet with BVM air to air missiles.

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Even if Iran had shot one down, the F-15's KDR would still be 104:1

>>6134
The 104:0 is bullshit. Several were shot down during Bekaa but were marked down as malfunctions or hit by AA defenses by Israel and the USA, despite a few kills and damaged (beyond repair) actually going to Syrian MiG-23 and 21s. Same thing has happened several times over the decades. Iraqi MiG-25s shot down at least 1 F-15 (denied by the USAF) and heavily damaged another. It helps that the F-15 was always either 1:1 or outnumbered its adversaries and had AWACs and EW to help it.

That being said OP is a fucking retard. The F-15 is one of the best fighter jets ever designed and definitely earned its place in history as such, while its combat record may have had it supported by significant air operations and the USAF may deny losses or rewrite them, the fact of the matter is it is a phenomenal aircraft and understating it capability is stupid.

>>6136
>The F-15 is one of the best fighter jets ever designed and definitely earned its place in history as such
In 19900 is was pretty good, but that was over 35 years ago. Today it is ancient, obsolete technology.

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>>6137
The only obsolete issues would be electronics and stealth, but stealth isn't the game changer people think, a powerful RADAR and data-linking with other RADARs can fix that. Electronics are easily replaced and have been. The Airframe is still one of the best in the world. The only current fighter aircraft that are definitively superior is the F-22, Su-57, J-20 and Su-35. The Su-34 is a superior strike aircraft but it and the Russian and Chinese Su-30 variants are all on an equal level. The F-35's main gimmick is its stealth and electronic warfare/surveillance capabilities, but the latter can easily be replicated on an F-15 airframe as they did with the EA-18G Growler (SEAD Super-Hornets). The Rafale, Gripen and Eurofighter Typhoon are light fighters that only stand a chance in dogfighting. The main reason the Kuwaiti F-18 hit those 3 F-15s was the element of surprise and the lack of SEAD concentrated on spoofing its systems. The F-16 is definitively inferior to the F-15 in capability. The F-14 is inferior in WVR combat and out of service, the Iranian versions are very outdated and rundown. The JF-10 and JF-17 are good fighters but in the same boat as the F-16. Yet all these are currently fielded aircraft.



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Who do you think the greatest military leader of all time was? You can answer whoever you think the answer is it doesn’t have to be from one of these photos, I just chose these because I ripped them off of a Wikipedia list of undefeated military leader. I don’t know anything about military strategy but I assume most people will answer Georgy Zhukov since he was undefeated and politically based.

I'd pick a Chinese general but idk who.

give me ideas.

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Suvorov for being one of the few generals to match Napoleon.

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>>6128
Red Napoleon Tukhachevsky



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What can we learn from the Russian invasion of Ukraine and this example of relatively modern warfare? Strategy, tactics, operations, geopolitical responses, information warfare, civilian pov and response. Anything related. Not the thread to talk about "who is in the right".
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>>5262
>ukrainian seem to have apparently used an old yak 52 training plane for shooting down drones with great success.
>forbes
LMAO no. Russia shot down those several times. Jet fighters are needed, as are slower low-tech aircraft, as are SAMs. This is what combined warfare is. The USSR leaned heavily on air-defenses and made the best in the world, but it still had a significant aircraft fleet, because air defenses alone are not getting the job done. Drones have vulnerabilities, and low-tech strike aircraft are niche.
>For these task, using a full blown, state of the art, 5th gen stealth jet airplane is completely unnecessary and a waste of resources.
True, which is why the Su-57 has been used against priority high-threat targets rather than doing what the Su-34 and Su-25 do. the Su-57 can absolutely mount the same weapons as those two, but it's a waste of time.

Additionally only low tech aircraft is a good way of high losses in a high-tech peer-conflict, or even a near-peer conflict. In the Gulf-war the A-10 had some of the highest loss rates of ANY aircraft in that war and many of its missions were accomplished by F-16s and F-15Ds at standoff ranges, in part because the US coalition lacked proper SAM defenses and relied only on air-superiority rather than a combined arms approach, they were lucky the Iraqis were weaker and more disorganized.

>>5264
>LMAO no.
no what ? do you deny you can shoot down a recon drone with a simple motor airplane ?

>Russia shot down those several times

even if they did, the idea was more using it into your own safe airspace. And using any missile to shoot it down, you're still paying too much.

>Jet fighters are needed, as are slower low-tech aircraft, as are SAMs. This is what combined warfare is

no shit, way to miss the point.

>rather than doing what the Su-34 and Su-25 do.

any jet fighter will be a magnitude more expensive than a regular motor plane

>only low tech aircraft

I didnt advocate for having ONLY them. But do you really need a jet for lobbing FAB-500s ?
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>>5270
Your spacing is ass, please don't do this.
>no what ?
You realize that people can scroll up and see exactly what I'm saying "no" to right? The fact is that Ukraine has failed to shoot down drones with its trainers, since it's literally pulling WW-1 shit, with people firing handguns out of open cockpits. There's literally a Russian drone video where they try and fail to shoot it down.
>even if they did, the idea was more using it into your own safe airspace.
*laughs in long range SAM*
You realize that Ukraine has been using very long range stand-off weapons like cruise missiles and are STILL getting shot down, right? Only a few days ago an Su-35 shot down a MiG-29 - which was using a HARM missile in a long-range ground-strike - from over 200km away, with an R-37. Earlier in the war the S-300V4 set a similar record kill from a similar distance of over 200km. An S-400 shot down an Su-27 over Kiev earlier in the war from 150km away. Pantsir, Osa and Tor SPAAG/SAMs have shot down numerous low-flying missiles, drones and other aircraft.
>using any missile to shoot it down, you're still paying too much.
If you're an idiot using patriot anti-ballistic long-range missiles against drones. A single Tor missile costs maybe a couple thousand dollars. A single yak-52 costs 50-100 thousand dollars, so you're dead wrong.
>way to miss the point.
I didn't miss your point. I don't disagree in the necessity of low-tech aircraft, but not like Ukraine is doing, and frankly an attack chopper would do just as well, if not better.
>any jet fighter will be a magnitude more expensive than a regular motor plane
Any jet fighter would also be magnitudes more effective.
>do you really need a jet for lobbing FAB-500s
In an SAM-heavy air-space like Ukraine? YES.
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>>2642
>The idea of it going to 2025
There is a lesson there. Stop being emotional, stop eating the propaganda slop, study everything and look closely at the serious people involved in war and political theory. Honestly I didn't need to do half of that to be sure that this stupid war would last a while so if you were wrong you really need to revamp your way of thinking

>>4897
>>4877
>>4946
Restoring files



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Thread for hating on the F-35 "Lightning II" stealth turkey a.k.a the most expensive military project in history to date.

The USAF declared it ready for service in 2016
As of that date the following problems I can list just off the top of my head
- Vulnerable to lightning; it's practically a lightning rod https://archive.is/QSIii
- 0 redundancies in the cyber or mechanical aggregates; any malfunction
- RADAR glitches means it literally ahs to be turned off and on again https://archive.ph/EEd9y
- Ejection seat is banned for anyone 136 pounds or below and anyone not above 150 pounds has significant injury risk, it literally can break your neck.
- F-35 helmets glow too brightly for air-to-air refueling https://archive.is/pKE0Y
- F-35 helmets are so heavy at nearly 5 kilograms so that maneuvers cause them to bang their heads on the inside of the cockpit https://archive.ph/WsRxA https://archive.ph/dE1gP
(keep in mind these helmets are 400,000 dollars each).
- The oxygen system is unreliable (something that the F-22 shares) https://archive.ph/kGGKq

The Plane was supposed to be ready by 2010-12 having been projected in the early 2000s
the list of problems in its past and that are remaining in various levels of urgency number over 800.
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https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/the-pentagon-should-scale-back-f-35-purchases-and-buy-drones-instead

>In recent weeks, Spain and India have shelved plans to buy F-35s, a reminder that US allies are reassessing the calculus of very expensive, single-platform dependence. Canada, Switzerland, and Portugal are all also on the fence.


>The program’s technical modernization, the Block 4 software and hardware upgrades, has been slower and costlier, a recurring theme Government Accountability Office (GAO) auditors have documented. The Block 4 effort is now years behind and billions of dollars over budget, disrupting not only timelines but the affordability of the entire program. Those slips are not mere program noise. They materially undercut the F-35’s promise to deliver a reliably modern capability at scale.


>At the same time, the aggregated price of the program is staggering. The Pentagon’s own acquisition accounting shows program lifetime costs measuring over $2 trillion; auditors and analysts keep upping their estimates of the lifetime bill as delays and tech churns stack up. When a single weapons program consumes a disproportionate share of acquisition dollars, it starves other innovations, forcing a false trade-off between fewer capabilities of many types, or many aircraft of one expensive type.


>That fiscal and schedule reality intersects with an operational one: modern high-intensity conflicts are already demonstrating that mass and attritability matter. Peer and near-peer adversaries are fielding sophisticated air defenses and electronic warfare that make a small number of exquisite, expensive platforms a brittle hedge. Ukraine’s playbook of rapidly producing unmanned systems and using swarm tactics has proven operationally decisive in many contexts, offers a cautionary tale for those who equate cost with strategic advantage. 


>For the Trump administration, which campaigned on restoring American strength while trimming waste, there is a clear policy choice: double down on an increasingly risky, costly platform, or reallocate procurement to systems that offer mass, tempo, and resilience. The moral of modern warfare
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US admits F-35 program failure after decades and trillions spent
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-admits-f-35-program-failure-after-decades-and-trillions-s

<A new Pentagon report admits the F-35 will never achieve its promised capabilities, exposing a $2 trillion defense failure and shaking confidence in the US military’s weapons program.

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/cost-of-f35/

The military is babying F-35s to hide their true cost to taxpayers

<Fewer sorties and flight hours kick maintenance down the road, hiding performance issues and taking valuable flight time away from pilots

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>I you have radar with limited power output you're unable to detect object with low RCS at max distance
>But there is nuance that you're physically unable to reduce RCS in all possible frequencies so meter lenght waves didn't give a fuck your aircraft use "stealth" technologies or not
Any angular deviation radically changes RCS. So if you have two radars some 15 km apart and 150 km from the stealth target, it is impossible to have perfect angle for any extended time against both radars.

This gives a +/- 5.74 degree angle or a span of 11.48 degrees. It can give a difference between -45 dbsm and -10 dbsm or going from an ideal 0.006 to average 0.1 (over a doubling of detection range).
So you go from being able to maybe shoot a HARM at the SAM system to eating an S300 from the neighboring tracking system.

Ofc, any maneuvering or buffeting means you temporarily spike the returns as well making you a target for both systems even if they aren't networked (which they are).

As Stealth is typically aimed at X-Band targeting RADAR the simple solution is to use other RADAR bands and make up for the lack of accuracy with better signal processing.



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Would ww3 actually be the end of the world, or would it be another regular war? Obviously the scale of a war between nato and russia, china, whoever would be significantly larger than america and iraq (for example) but would any country actually be stupid enough to use nuclear weapons?

Using nukes sort of defeats the point of going to war doesn’t it? If you turn a country into a radioactive wasteland:

A) they’ll just do it to you as well, and
B) even if they don’t retaliate, there will be nothing left to conquer, so you gain nothing

Modern governments view nuclear exchanges as survivable for the state but not the people.

The datacenters, ports, and supply chains are targets. Starvation kills the ones not killed by direct strike.

After the nuclear exchange, in person invasion with military forces occurs. Nuclear stock piles get built up. This cycle repeats every 100 to 1000 years. Nuclear war is cyclical, we just have not lived through the first cycle and have not seen it happen.

Radiation is reduced in favor of physical damage. Ground burst soot is reduced in favor of air burst damage.



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it's killing me;
what's are the major difference between the VZ-58 with it's short-stroke system and Type-81 attempt to improve the AK's shortcomings?

besides stamped/milled receiver?

would it be worth it trying to bring back the VZ58?
or has modern Chinese production AKs ended the AK pattern arms race?



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am I spiritually sick for feeling "less than" JSOC\Special ops\ex-SO PMCs and such elite soldiers?
Maybe it's a (((cope))) but I'm learning to have hyper-realistic lucid dreams so I can have tier-1 missions there with full realism.
I know war is evil, maybe it's even fake\a CGI+ crisis actor huge hoax but…I do really feel spiritually cucked and lucid dreaming seems the only realistic solution for me out of this

>>6117
Stay in your lane, the division of labour in capitalism means that someone has to specialise in some way.

>>6118

also i think spec ops are more likely to get fragged as they're dumb enough to go back for another tour meaning they're either war tourists who know they'll be jerking off in a tunnel and driving FPV drones or dumb cannonfodder just wanting to either have their relatives to cash what little insurance they leave behind / disposable retards with nobody to cash their insurance

see
https://www.youtube.com/civdiv
a radlib confident enough he'll be in a cushy spot, as soon as shit got real in the YPG he bailed out and left all those dumb brown people to die alone

rest assured he'll do the same in Cuckraine if he hasn't yet already.

>>6119
Civ Div has done more for leftist ideology than you've ever done in your life.

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>>6120

>leftist



 

For those who aren't lawyers, injury is generally illegal. Because of this, obstruction or neutralization of class enemies and class traitors is often restricted to adventurism or fantasy, maybe even intimidation if you and others are organized well enough (congratulations!)

Let us explore a potent but seemingly unexplored (or at least underground) counter-strategy. A safe, simple, long-term strategy of stochastic opportunistic biowarfare.
This is not biowarfare in the conventional sense of directly poisoning enemies, so if you want to culture your own mold and plant it in a chud's HVAC then this isn't for you.
Instead, we intent so seize an opportunity to accelerate the self-poisoning of (overwhelmingly) reactionaries. I want you to envision a land of raw meat and dairy, tallow and ghee, supplement cocktails and Ivermectin doping. Oh, that's the world the reactionary grifters are already implementing… if these obviously dangerous diets and medication are so normal among the anti-communists, perhaps we can kick this up a notch. It's easy to poison someone with seemingly-innocuous things: beef liver, brazil nuts, water intoxication. It's very easy to demonize treatments like vaccines and healthier alternatives to traditional habits. It's simple to trick reactionaries into rejecting things seen as progressive, like soy, veganism and seed oils, and jumping up to mirror it with ridiculous excessive meat over-consumption. Simply tell them that warnings and regulations are liberal disinformation and a significant amount of these idiots will want to believe it.

The best part is, you can make money from slowly poisoning reactionaries. Millions of well-funded capitalists are investing millions and billions into selling unhealthy products, they want as many sold as possible. Look at how the dairy industry in the USA has managed to normalize cow's milk as an essential nutritional component. Look at how propagandist streamers and podcasters are throwing supplement pill ads at their audience. These capitalist companies don't care about long-term effects, they're fatally bound to the short-term lines and how far they go up. And for those in the USA, bourgeois deregulation will make more and more of these tactics completely legal.
We can help dismantle the right and make them pay for it. What's not to love?
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>>5960
type shit I would do If I wanted to kms

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You can literally poison these fuckers with the All Meat Diet and bad advice, and they'll blame da devil.

>>6104
Anyone who blames any sort of mishap on the devil is usually not cognitively fit.

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Sometimes you have to accept the cost of standing up for something.

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you said biowarfare and now i'm scared of braapfrens swarming the thread at any moment.



 

Post your fave gun of the week here

starting with my week favorite's:

>Jezail Musket AKA Tortobak

>CETME Ameli
>SHMT-1 Vietnam's Galil ACE clone in 5,56

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pretty fond of the yugo m56



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