[ home / rules / faq / search ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM / ufo / 420 ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]

/AKM/ - Guns, weapons and the art of war.

"War can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun." - Chairman Mao
Name
Options
Subject
Comment
Flag
File
Embed
Password(For file deletion.)
What is 6 - 2?

Check out our new store at shop.leftypol.org!

| Catalog | Home
|

File: 1791835549342-1.jpg (81.74 KB, 1102x1085, Cirno_FONV.jpg)

 

Hello I want to learn to shoot. I have shot bb guns and pellet guns growing up. Although I never shot a gun. Is starting with a .22lr a wise idea? I was thinking:
  • Browning Buck Mark Micro
  • 1911 22 Compact

idk if there are any better options.
13 posts and 6 image replies omitted.

>>6468
was the one with soviet .30 politically motivated? wtf

>>6467
Squads are getting smaller now and the Ukraine war tends to show a lot of troops completely isolated/cut off getting into firefights within 10-20m of one another in a trench, its fairly likely. Im not saying 'spray and pray', just that optics arent going to be much use at best and a hindrance at worst.

>>6470
???
gore videos from gopros are not a statistic
most encounters still happen >100m; drones make infiltration less likely because the other side is more likely to see you coming
also, I assume it's easier to shoot down a drone with a red point than with iron sights

>>6470
Dude, if you're fighting in a trench than you're are way past worrying about any of this shit. You should practice how to shoot down drones and how to take cover from artillery strikes. I really didn't go far enough in that other post. If you're thinking that you're going to fight not as part of a conscript in a national army like Ukraine, your main focus(at least with guns) should be shooting from a location you are never seen from. If you're seen you're fucked. Really sniping is the only viable tactic for guerillas and insurgents with firearms. Either that or train with a concealable weapon on how to get the drop on people and then getting away.

>>6471
>>6472

>most encounters still happen >100m; drones make infiltration less likely because the other side is more likely to see you coming


not really, its either urban building fighting, close range innawoods or trench sweeping- most of ukraine is flat open fields, trying to plink someone 100-200m away where? while standing in a open field? Most troops get driven in at high speeds and dive into trenches or cover and are constantly mobile to prevent them getting mogged by drones or arty.

Optics are cool and all but I think the most you'd want is a robust red dot or holo, actually using an optic with a magnfying scope on it will break easily or not find much practical use.

>Dude, if you're fighting in a trench than you're are way past worrying about any of this shit


It is the most practical application of your firearm outside of learning to react to someone trying to shoot you, or intervening in a 3rd party - in the first situation modern doctrine tends to teach mag dumping to the chest as fast as you can, in the 2nd you might have time to aim a bit better, either way an optic on what, a pistol? The only reason you'd need a bigger scope is for hunting (mostly stationary) or for the range (not practical)



File: 1791127025445-6.jpg (1.32 MB, 4080x2296, IMG_20261004_231621.jpg)

 

I live in a country without access to firearms or crossbows, so I have taken up archery. Pictured is my 30lb composite bow. I shoot up to 70lb. Is archery just a leisure sport or can it be useful?
7 posts and 4 image replies omitted.

>>6447

Foreigners cant get hunting licences. I am a 2nd class citizen :)

File: 1791665659424-0.png (149.92 KB, 500x585, xi.png)

>>6449
you didn't clarify where you live so I will go with the PRC
>Foreigners cant get hunting licences
uh ACKSHULLY
>https://www.jarniascyril.com/expatriation/guide-moving-to-china-expat/hunting-permit-procedures-china-regulations/
>Eligibility Criteria:
>Be at least 18 years old (age may vary locally, but this is the standard in most provinces)
>No prior convictions for serious violations of firearms legislation, poaching, or species protection laws
>Legal residence in China (for foreigners, a long-stay visa is generally required)
>https://is-this-legal.com/is-hunting-legal-in-china/
>Can foreign hunters legally hunt in China?
>Foreign hunters must follow the same legal framework as local hunters, including acquiring permits and adhering to species regulations. Overarching regulations are designed to ensure compliance with wildlife conservation efforts.

Archery is a great means to self defense. Think about it for minorities especially undocumented ones can get into archery without US cock blocking. In your situation, a bow or crossbow is always a great tool. It's better than nothing. So get training

>>6452
>self-defense
If the point is to defend yourself, a bow is a terrible idea, you fight people at knife point at best, a telescopic baton would be more useful (and still as illegal in most countries)
If the point is to defend yourself and not get jailed in the process, a bow is completely useless. (Always found it ironic that the best thing that could happen is that your attacker get killed in the process, so he can't sue you properly as you're the only witness)

File: 1791876349153-3.jpg (513.64 KB, 1368x1824, Assorted_shillelagh-50%.JPG)

>>6452
>>6455
consider the following. but also self-defense is a meme



File: 1787543232725-6.png (449.78 KB, 1320x797, IMG_4590.png)

 

Look i love guns as much as the next person but sometimes i feel like we’re pointing in the direction of either major reform or outright banning them. And theres no way to cure a mental health crisis or poverty not without money some people arent willing to pay owning guns should be a right people retain till the end of time but its hard to think about it feeling like sometimes your in the wrong
3 posts omitted.

>>6408
That doesn't mean you need to have handguns sold in walmart tho, you can have easy but gated access, it works much better to stop mass shooting and yet people stay armed

>Look i love guns as much as the next person but sometimes i feel like we’re pointing in the direction of either major reform or outright banning them.

it's not going to happen. there are approximately 500 million civilian-owned firearms in the united states, about 55% of which are handguns and about 15% are semi-automatic rifles and shotguns, i.e. the kinds of weapons that are banned outright in countries like the uk or australia, so about 350 million guns would have to be bought back by the government and the administrative overheads of doing this in a country as big and spread out as the united states would be enormous, potentially costing the government upwards of $10,000 per gun. it would cost trillions of dollars to do such a thing in the us, and that's not even to mention the widespread public outrage and civil unrest that would certainly result, or the fact that firearm manufacturers and sporting goods retailers are major multi-billion dollar industries in the united states with tremendous lobbying power by way of the nra and its legions of devoted followers. it will be a winter wonderland in the deepest reaches of hell before firearms are banned in the united states.

the US has a very intelligent system. Republicans are pro-gun, but their voting base are mentally ill violent sociopaths, ensuring that the most anti-revolutionary and dangerous people in the US have guns.

Democrats on the other hand defang all people that could've otherwise gotten into communist theory and domesticates them back into the system. These people are not only assimilated, but they're also convinced that guns are evil and the worst, so democrats have all the people that could be worth a shit turned into harmless reformists and all the most dangerous forces of reaction armed to the teeth.

File: 1790138302513-8.jpg (208.62 KB, 766x583, armed_negro_band.jpg)

>>6427
>Republicans are pro-gun

that's how they present themselves sure, but when it comes to people with felony convictions and undocumented or visa holding immigrants, they pretty much unanimously reject the second amendment. about a third of all black american males and a third of all immigrants are barred from owning guns, and roughly around 15-20% of americans in the lowest income quintile (<$34,510) have a felony conviction on their record, so they can't have guns. and it's important to note that even the most minor non-violent crimes, such as possession of less than a single gram of heroin or cocaine or meth, are felony offenses in almost all republican states and in most states in general, and about 80% of all felony convictions in the us are for non-violent crimes. so republicans are not really pro-gun, they are just pro-gun for middle-class white americans. it's all bullshit. republicans don't believe in anything, us politics is all just a performance, all the pro-gun shit is just marketing, it's a way to appeal to their key demographic of middle-class white people from middle america and secure funding from the nra and libertarian super pacs.

>>6429
This.
The US has so much restrictions on the vulnerable. From people of color, neurodiversity, and paperwork background.

The current system is also trying to remove the rights for trans people on the minute chance that they might do a mass shooting despite the low percentage of them committing them.

Minorities that cannot get around firepower need to learn other skills such as archery, knife/sword skills, and marshal arts. They want us weak. We need to circumvent.



File: 1771956564966-0.png (444.11 KB, 1600x457, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1771956564966-1.png (153.68 KB, 792x225, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1771956564966-2.png (187.77 KB, 1000x420, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1771956564966-3.png (95.58 KB, 601x420, ClipboardImage.png)

 

it's killing me;
what's are the major difference between the VZ-58 with it's short-stroke system and Type-81 attempt to improve the AK's shortcomings?

besides stamped/milled receiver?

would it be worth it trying to bring back the VZ58?
or has modern Chinese production AKs ended the AK pattern arms race?

File: 1779208627066.png (236.14 KB, 1181x480, ClipboardImage.png)

>>6122
Long-stroke piston of the AK is inherently less accurate compared to short-stroke piston like in vz-58 and nearly all other modern rifles and the stoner internal piston, but i don't think it's rly enough of a difference to matter that much for riflemen, especially conscripts. And even for DMR role there are military precision rifles with ak style long stroke piston like the PSL and zastava m76, m91 which were considered acceptable. Zastava m91 seems to be quite good actually

I've very little experience but from what i know assault rifles are kinda all very similar and it seems to be down to personal preference and logistics and situation which one is „better”. What matters most is having the rifle and ammo in the first place and the mounting of modern optics, which AK can definitely do though not as easily as an AR15 and other modern rifles

Not sure i would call QBZ-191 a modernised AK. There's many true modernised AKs with various solutions for mounting optics, i think the zastava m19 is interesting

File: 1791492711128-0.png (82.36 KB, 480x360, ClipboardImage.png)

>>6260

there's these extended railed foregrips but idk how good that worked



File: 1712250330369.jpg (Spoiler Image,132.72 KB, 960x540, Cobra-RX-Adder-Repeating-C….jpg)

 

Want a gun but its impossible to get a gun license in your country? Buy a repeating crossbow. These things will nail the target in a wall behind them.

<Tactical Repeating Crossbow – Maybe this is the biggest innovation in the crossbow market ever – this weapon changes everything.


<The 7.5 inch arrows (or bolts) have screwed-on field points and reach a proud 30 joules at 130 pounds tensile weight. The arrow speed is approximately 78 m/s (256 fps), which makes the Adder accurate even at distances up to 50 meters (55 yards). In our tests, the standard field tips penetrated through several layers of clothing and a thick layer of ballistic gel, then perforated a coconut poured into the gel block. By using the special High-Penetration Bodkin tips, which have razor-sharp edges, this penetration power can be further increased.


<The removable tactical rear stock is adjustable. The weapon can also be used without the rear stock, which makes it even more compact if required. The all-metal red dot visor supplied with the weapon can be adjusted vertically and horizontally.


https://www.amazon.com/EK-Archery-Automatic-Repeating-Crossbow/dp/B07ZQNWBDV
31 posts and 3 image replies omitted.

>>5836
You wont be able to get ammo, genius.
I guess that's not a problem if you just want a gun, but you cannot even go and shoot cans in the woods or anything. might as well make a slingshot tbh.

Bump

File: 1790284750616-8.png (552.26 KB, 700x422, ClipboardImage.png)

>>5800
combat knife taped under your bed will be superior (if you live somewhere that isnt the US)

File: 1790285693043-2-0.png (724.64 KB, 564x783, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 1790285693043-1-1.png (466.69 KB, 495x620, ClipboardImage.png)

>>6436
>>4682
Throwing Axe. RETVRN EVRO!

>>6437
axes are cool but if you're ambushed sleeping you probably wont have much room to swing or throw one, im assuming someone is kicking in my bedroom door.



File: 1778638517483.png (615.91 KB, 583x768, ClipboardImage.png)

 

What breaks or bends if women get drafted? Does the 'protect women' instinct finally die? Would shared foxholes bond the or poison everything?

Personal opinion is if the Queens want the crown, they need to carry the sword.
32 posts and 5 image replies omitted.

Conscription is rape and those that enforce it shoul be treated as such.

>>6377
Conscription is Reactionary if it is done by Capitalist States (and only applies to Men) but it is Progressive if it is done by Socialist States (and applies to both Men and Women), which is why the entire 18-year old population of the future Global USSR will be conscripted to join the International Red Guards in order to both purge all 18-year olds of Fascist, Liberal, and Revisionist beliefs, in order to ensure the entire population embraces the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the highest stage of Marxism, and to ensure that every 18-year old Woman is purged of all vestiges of Bourgeois Femininity and the Reactionary Patriarchal Gender Binary, so that universal Female service in the International Red Guards between the ages of 18 and 20 will become a rite of passage to transform them into Liberated Socialist Women that uphold the Immortal Science of Marxism-Leninism-Maoism, the highest stage of Marxism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️ 💇‍♀️👩‍🦲!

>>6232
Conscript armies will be phased out now that war revolves around drones. Civilians building drones are more useful than soldiers.

File: 1786717881506-2.png (1.22 MB, 1024x596, ClipboardImage.png)


forcing people to join the military against their will is tyrannical fascist bullshit to begin with and fascism and discrimination kind of go hand and hand, it's not like a fascist regime is going to try to be fair and egalitarian when they are dragging people out of their homes and forcing them to go fight in a war and get blown to smithereens and to sit here and pretend otherwise is just obtuse. it would be like debating over whether or not serial killers ought to be less discriminatory in their killings and not just target black people or immigrants or homeless people.

the more interesting and important discussion we should be having is about why governments discriminate the way they do when it comes to military draft or recuitment, why they choose the particular people they target, i.e. young males who are not rich or white. the race and class element are pretty self-explanatory, but why young males? most people will probably say it's because 18 year old boys are more physically fit for military service and have greater strength and stamina and dexterity than older men or women, but is that really the reason?

anyone who has worked at any job requiring physical labor knows that 18 year old boys tend to be pretty terrible at everything, weak and clumsy and constantly screwing up and breaking things and injuring themselves and getting tired and having to take frequent breaks and complaining and whining all the time. men reach the peak of their physical ability in their late 20s to mid 30s, not in their late teens. and an untrained skinny teenage boy is about as useless as an untrained skinny teenage girl when it comes to running long distances or carrying heavy equipment or climbing over obstacles. so it's not really about physical ability.

i think it's really about psychological malleability more than anything else, which is primarily a function of emotional maturity. women emotionally mature faster than men do, women tend to reach full emotional maturity by their 30s whereas men don't reach full emotional maturity until their 40s. everyone knows what teenage boys are like, any man can remember what he was like when he was 18 years old - essentially a confused, insecure, scared, naive, extremely sensitive and impressionable child desperately seeking validation and approval from others and wanting very badly to fit in and be accepted and be recognized, particularly by some kind of parental father figure. in other words, the ideaPost too long. Click here to view the full text.



File: 1778979050355.webp (7.65 KB, 300x150, APLA1.webp)

 

"For The Union Makes Us Strong."
A mischellanious thread for the discussion/formation of revolutionary left wing militias and co-ops.
The body was too short or empty.
The body was too short or empty.
The body was too short or empty.
The body was too short or empty.
5 posts and 1 image reply omitted.

>>6255
please share pdf, anon, thank you

idkno

>>6253
It's simply provocative bullshit by a guy other neo-Nazis thought was too much. If you want to read a good book about insurgency (one that were unfortunately written by reactionaries) read Total Resistance and The Brigade.

>>6253
Negative homes. Siege is ideological not tactical. Just neo Nazi ideological nonsense . Read old mil manuals and start shooting with your bros. A decentralized group of homies is the way to go. One of you needs help, phone up the bros. And if one of you goes down, you should hypothetically trust your boy to not squeal.

If you can't trust them not to, don't shoot with them. Don't even tell them abt your guns. These are the tards that will fold under pressure and red flag you. Don't let them.

>>6261
This. Learn about the history of the SLA, Red Army Faction, and Black Panther Party to understand what NOT to do as an armed organization, specifically regarding adventurism. Avoid broaching the topic with lumpens who would ostensibly try and take advantage of the organization for criminal activity. Ask the question of whether the impetus to create a militia is due to an immediate pending need in the community (militarized police and ICE basically act as an occupying force for example, or your perfectly legal libertarian queer homestead in Colorado is accosted by thugs), or that of an individualistic nihilistic desire for violence. Your zeal can be channeled to other needs of your community first.

Do YOU have the mental and physical capacity to confidently organize with the discipline necessary to ensure that the esprit de corp reflect the revolutionary values that you, I am sure, claim to hold? Ask these questions, and then consult a trusted movement lawyer.



File: 1786547338841-1.jpeg (148.1 KB, 1024x683, IMG_0268.jpeg)

 

How can you protect yourself from a drone attack as an individual?

I know there are ways to beat drones using tech but as a foot soldier on the ground, how can you maximise your survivability?
6 posts and 1 image reply omitted.

Do clay pigeon shooting shotguns are a great way to stop drones

>>6391
  • Corners: Watch your 90 degree corners.
  • Cover: The sky is the enemy. The more material between you and the sky, the better.
  • Retreat: Do not investigate the dead or search for bodies, lest you be struck in the double tap or triple tap strike.
  • Scatter: Crowds are bad. Be spread out.
  • Self Control: If you heard it, it was not meant for you. Therefore retreat and don't move. Turn phone to airplane mode to make them think all radios (hence people) are dead.
  • Digging: If you try digging people out of the structures, I lack any knowledge on how to do that, but you can and people do. Maybe you will need powered equipment or vehicles in order to do that.
  • Hard Kill: Active interception is unlikely and deeply illegal.
  • Soft Kill: Radio Jamming of large 20ft aerial drones is not only illegal but also not technically feasible as directional antennas are aimed from the 10KM high drone to the satellite in the sky.
  • Synthetic Aperture Radar means you can't hide during the fog or the storms as it can still see the ground.


Did I miss anything?

File: 1790047136206-3.png (4.2 KB, 640x350, egabomb.png)

real life isn't like hitscan video games where shooting something at a much higher elevation than you is the same as shooting something at ground level. you aim a gun at a high angle to try to hit some object that is 500-1000 feet above you, your gunsights/optics and all of your instincts and reckonings about distance and bullet drop and wind drift and leading the target become useless because you have no common ground reference to gauge distance and the geometry of the bullet arc becomes counterintuitive and wind speed increases significantly with altitude and in the case of aircraft the target is also probably moving really fucking fast and you have no sense of its speed or distance because it's in the sky and there's nothing around it that can be a useful frame of reference. there is a reason why the military had to invent special guns specifically designed for ground-to-air combat and why they were just dumb brute force fragmentation weapons designed to simply blanket the sky with tons of flying metal and shit hoping to hit something.

>>6422
This is why people in Ukraine carry buckshot, its either a shotgun or spray and pray with tracers

even the us and other high-tech military nations don't really know how to defend against drone attacks and are actively trying to figure out solutions. it's sort of led to a resurgence of interest in directed energy weapons research, particularly laser and microwave weapons. a very small very fast flying object is practically invulnerable to ballistic weapons, like trying to shoot a bullet with a bullet as the saying goes. hitting it with a laser beam or microwave pulse is a lot more feasible but reflective coatings and shielding could make the drones resistant to those kinds of weapons as well.



File: 1789518256485-0.png (839.79 KB, 1920x1281, ClipboardImage.png)

 

For me it's the hkvp9 match

honorable mention: m16a1

body too short etc
body too short etc
body too short etc
body too short etc
body too short etc
body too short etc

DDm4a1 ris 2 and 3
are like the coolest rifles ever made.



File: 1789440399720-3.jpg (10.58 KB, 334x303, zoomass diagnostic.jpg)

 

1996: Ted Kacynzski, "MSN Chat"; "Chaotix Dot Com".
1998: Brian Monaghan, "Department of Defense"; "Montreal Mafia".
2000: Daniel Slot, NSA; "Nickelodeon".
2003: Michael Mullet, AFROTC; "MIT".
2003: Jeffrey Niemera, Cyber Command; "BDF".
2004: Harlan Rosen, UMass-Amherst CI; "Colombo Family".
2005: James Gandolfini, NRO; "HBO".
2006: Brian Monaghan, West German Intelligence; "Hard Candy".
2007: Jared Fogel, Microsoft; "British Intelligence".
2009: Kara Williamson Daignault, NSA Canada; "Patrarcas".
2014: Christopher Meloni, FBI; "Law and Order".
2018: Brett Wolf, ATF; "Naval Mossad".
2020: Jeffrey Lange, Congress; "Comcast".

what is this even supposed to mean



Delete Post [ ]
[ home / rules / faq / search ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / lgbt / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM / ufo / 420 ] [ meta ] [ wiki / shop / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]
Previous[ 1 /2 /3 /4 /5 /6 /7 /8 /9 /10 /11 /12 /13 /14 /15 /16 /17 /18 /19 /20 /21 /22 /23 /24 /25 /26 /27 /28 /29 /30 ]
| Catalog | Home