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/AKM/ - Guns, weapons and the art of war.

"War can only be abolished through war, and in order to get rid of the gun it is necessary to take up the gun." - Chairman Mao
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>A shotgun (also known as a scattergun, or historically as a fowling piece) is a long-barreled firearm designed to shoot a straight-walled cartridge known as a shotshell, which usually discharges numerous small pellet-like spherical sub-projectiles called shot, or sometimes a single solid projectile called a slug. Shotguns are most commonly smoothbore firearms, meaning that their gun barrels have no rifling on the inner wall, but rifled barrels for shooting slugs (slug barrels) are also available.

The shotgun is thought of as being an extremely basic firearm but it is also very versatile and powerful. It can shoot loads that allow you to hunt small game, large game, from birdshot to buckshot, to even rifled slugs that basically turn your shotgun into a rifle, also works good for home defense and even military applications (think WW1 trench guns).

People have a misleading sense of how much spread shotguns have especially in video games where they magically become ineffective after 10 feet meanwhile in real life hunters regularly kill animals with buckshot at far greater distances.
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>>3671
This is true. Ammo is expensive they are extremely difficult to use, unreliable, and heavy. They require far more training to use safely than any other category of firearm. Including handguns. Shotguns are for recreational shooting, not practical shooting.

>>5661
They only use them in the military and police for blowing off locks and hinges off, on doors.

>>5662
Not true at all. They are used for clearing tight buildings during warrant raids etc.

just throw a slug in there

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>>5662
In combat situations, they are used for clearing out trenches and rooms with buckshot.
It was also used for anti-drone and close-quarter battle situations.
But, yeah, they are not very useful in combat; they are only useful in specific situations.


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How do you buy a gun? Where do you buy it from? Do you pay in cash? Why do you buy a gun? Is it actually worthwhile or just a larp? Should you start with a glock and then add an AR once you're more comfortable/knowledgeable? Please help.

Depends on where you live, I'm just gonna assume you're from the US. You pay with your credit card. I buy a gun to protect myself. I think it's worth it, it's the greatest weapon ever made and easily accessible. I think you'd be a fool to not own one.
Buy an ar15 first. What's your budget? I'll let you know which to get. Next buy some 30 round pmags, here's the link
https://magpul.com/pmag-30-ar-m4-gen-m3.html?mp_global_color=118
Get some 223 ammo to train with and some 556 for actual application.
Next you can buy a pistol, you sound like you're looking at a glock. Get a glock 19 or a 26 if you want something concealable and get a glock 34 if you don't care how big it is and want the most accuracy.
Buy 9mm hollow points, they expand causing more damage to people. Also get a good holster. It's 100% worthwhile.

You guys know you get put on a list when you fill out Form 4473 right?

>>5723
thats literally the point of a form. to list/categorize/acquire information to make a list.
>you know your putting yourself on a list when you put yourself on a list
yeah

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>>5723
Every communist is already on a list. Would you like to know more?

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I need to keep myself safe from coyotes and rabid men while I hike and get drunk in bars.


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https://innawoods.net/
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Ancapistan loadout

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I serve the Soviet Union.

>>4756
>fascist stick grenades

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not pictured is my meth pipe

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Currently, the idea and concept of military's with officers, NCOs, and chains of command comes from the West. Many nations use localized terms taken from their own history but the origins obviously remain in Europe. Considering how popular anti-Western sentiment has been with many revolutionary governments, have any established nations or revolutionary groups ever tried to completely remove all European elements from their military institutions
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>army but make it woke
>muh culture
Bruh.

Militaries while slow to change due to institutional inertia are one of the few sectors that prioritize efficiency over everything else. They look for what works and try to learn from others mistakes, they have all copied western systems of command because those are the systems the west used to conquer the world, it works.
The largest military lacking any kind of NCO system is the Russians and we are seeing their preformance reflect this.

>>5726
Food for thought, but maybe its more problematic that Russia has a top down approach to small unit leadership rather than simply having no NCO corps. An ad hoc approach to small unit leadership that empowers leaders based on a mixture and expertise and consensus may be even more effective than that.

Do you think that the concept of NCOs, officers, and a chain of command is a uniquely Western one OP?

>positions of authority in militaries are a western invention
facepalm


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"If I was allowed to carry my gun inside that bank when it was getting robbed I would've killed him!!!"
>Proceeds to blow a 9mil into your thigh when unholstering

thats why i prefer appendix carry, so i can blow my dick off and have a free bottom surgery

I think if witchcraft got more popular less of these people would go the gun route. Instead of shooting eachother they could hex eachother.

>>5523
Still better than being totally disarmed.

>>5523
Because most Americans don't train with the guns they own. Somewhere along the way, gun ownership became taboo something only magatards and Tim mcveigh types do instead of every household having firearms and knowing how to use them (usually hunting guns or milsurp but still). It's also the death of high trust society in America. The only people who used to carry were "gangster" types. But now your average Joe is always under threat of having their pockets ran by some drug addled retard with an infected needle over what little they already have thanks to the capitalist powers that be.

It's a necessity now.


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How useful are handguns for war, revolution, personal protection, or in general? Why do soldiers in militaries even have handguns if they already have rifles which are better?
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>>5658
>>5717
>>3681
Are ya guys dumb? A pistol is concealable. If you could stab someone in the head, if you could punch them in the head, you could shoot them in the head. It's very easy to kill someone by surprise with a pistol. People were killing people with the fucking derringers. If you can down them, you can follow up shot to the skull and finish them.

>>5718
Shit tho you can drop them you can stomp them. The neck is a weak point. One good t torque and it's over forever.

>>5719
Not to mention crushing your larynx or you carotid arteries.

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>>3681
Handguns have such an obvious use I have no idea what is the question.

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>>5721
Or you could just put one bullet through their cortex, even if they "survive" what does that mean?


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hi i am a tunisian who want to enjoy some freedom sticks like you amerikants , i can make some primitive shotguns and 3d printed pistols but my biggest hurdle is getting ammo , it's extremely difficult to get a hunter licence and it's easier for me to find cocaine than bullet in the black market , any idea how to make/smuggle some rounds ?
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>>5697
Here's some entirely plastic shotgun shells that are electrically ignited with no primer.
https://forum.cartridgecollectors.org/t/semi-caseless-shotshell-wra-s-w-winchester-western-expendable-case-shotshell-experimental/34214

Always remember to test these things out extensively when they're not attached to your hand lol. Don't want a big ass explosion in the palm of your hand.

>>5697
thanks anon

i have a few used shotgun shells i scavenged from a hunting area recently and i might make some homemade primers from those toy gun caps

any thoughts or tutorials will be appreciated

again thank you ヽ(´▽`)/

Can you access blank ammo or order airgun ammunition?

>>5711
no , i need a licence to even get an airgun ammo


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Want a gun but its impossible to get a gun license in your country? Buy a repeating crossbow. These things will nail the target in a wall behind them.

<Tactical Repeating Crossbow – Maybe this is the biggest innovation in the crossbow market ever – this weapon changes everything.

<The 7.5 inch arrows (or bolts) have screwed-on field points and reach a proud 30 joules at 130 pounds tensile weight. The arrow speed is approximately 78 m/s (256 fps), which makes the Adder accurate even at distances up to 50 meters (55 yards). In our tests, the standard field tips penetrated through several layers of clothing and a thick layer of ballistic gel, then perforated a coconut poured into the gel block. By using the special High-Penetration Bodkin tips, which have razor-sharp edges, this penetration power can be further increased.

<The removable tactical rear stock is adjustable. The weapon can also be used without the rear stock, which makes it even more compact if required. The all-metal red dot visor supplied with the weapon can be adjusted vertically and horizontally.

https://www.amazon.com/EK-Archery-Automatic-Repeating-Crossbow/dp/B07ZQNWBDV
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🤓☝
>Illegally carrying a crossbow is a public security violation and will incur legal responsibility, especially when entering public places or public transportation. According to Article 32 of the "Public Security Administration Punishment Law of the People's Republic of China," those who illegally carry firearms, ammunition, or crossbows, daggers, and other controlled devices specified by the state shall be detained for no more than 5 days and may be fined up to 500 yuan; if the circumstances are relatively minor, they shall be given a warning or fined no more than 200 yuan. Those who illegally carry firearms, ammunition, or crossbows, daggers, and other controlled devices specified by the state into public places or public transportation shall be detained for no less than 5 days and no more than 10 days and may be fined up to 500 yuan.

>The Beijing police remind: According to relevant laws, crossbows have strong lethality and are classified as controlled devices specified by the state. Unauthorized production, sale, and use are prohibited. Citizens are advised not to illegally purchase, use, or carry crossbows out of curiosity or other reasons. If you have crossbows or other controlled devices at home, please voluntarily turn them in to the nearest public security organ. Those who do not voluntarily surrender illegal items and are caught by the public security organs will be punished according to the law.

>非法携带弩是一种治安违法行为，将承担法律责任，特别是进入公共场所或公共交通工具时，处罚将更为严厉。《中华人民共和国治安管理处罚法》第32条规定，非法携带枪支、弹药或者弩、匕首等国家规定的管制器具的，处5日以下拘留，可以并处500元以下罚款；情节较轻的，处警告或者200元以下罚款。非法携带枪支、弹药或者弩、匕首等国家规定的管制器具进入公共场所或者公共交通工具的，处5日以上10日以下拘留，可以并处500元以下罚款。

>北京警方提醒：根据相关法律规定，弩杀伤力强，属于国家规定的管制器具，不允许私自生产、销售和使用，请广大市民不要出于好奇等原因非法购买、使用、携带弩。如您家中存有弩等管制器具，请主动就近上交公安机关。不主动交出非法物品、被公安机关查获的，将依法惩处。

https://baijiahao.baidu.com/s?id=1801813689459887228&wfr=spider&for=pc

>>5195
high-t

>>4682
as cool as crossbows are, his "instant legolas" bow is even neater I think. And easier to make DIY and less regulated too !


Tbh there's better options in the form of airgun, airbow, or using black powder/antique.


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These tools have gotten millions of people killed in this century alone. How does that make you feel?

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All warm in side.

>>5707
A mini gun isn’t going to do anything against an entire field of fortifications and fortresses.

>>5708
you must be fun at parties

dying by a gun seems preferable to dying of the plague tbh


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I posted this before, I got ignored..I suspect slide-play, so im posting again.
It seems that after a long and badly paid career (140K for like 20 years) of being a literal fbi informer, he got sacked and now he's into weirder, nastier s*. Also seems to have IRL (Online, but i mean not made-up) connections to MKY\MKY\Manic murder cult from russia-ukraine.
>im not a gunfag, someone confirm whether the guns I post are real, or airsoft, please
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>>5693
WTF is up with you? you sound so comfy with a group (whose ideology is) murdering random vulnerable people, owning this stack of shit

>>5694
I think theyre just clearing up incorrect statements. chill out

>>5695
>chill out
that's effeminate.Im so virile, I have gone schizophrenic (actual diagnosis from the Doctor)

>>5692
satanic front, temple ov blood, maniac larper cult, 764, and whatever other three-numbered com-adjacent so called 'nexions' that spawned from this deranged gnome are all setian psy-ops devised by the temple of set to publicly deface and ruin the reputation of the order of nine angles/make occultism less approachable for the less-invested.

the order of nine angles has little to nothing to do with the garbage this guy was pushing. his goal overall was to make another 'satanic panic' which he essentially succeeded at seeing as groups like these are now getting mainstream media attention.

satanic front is actually mostly a US midwest based group despite their claims and they operate primarily out of colorado and new-york state. those are likely real guns legally owned by dysgenic young men who overuse the word 'misanthropic' every five seconds.

sutter as of present day still regularly uploads to his wordpress site romanticizing CSAM material.

>>5688
Wolf ammo uyghas


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