Name a single time you used a search engine to find anything worthwhile. They are even on a conceptual level just a bad way to navigate the web, and on top of that many algorithms are centred around marketing and spam and noise muddles up every result. They remove the interactive aspect of the web which makes it such a unique medium and help commercialize its very content. Stop using search engines.
>>18056Let me guess: you only use the Internet for Twitter and Disc0rd and reposting screencaps from them onto imageboards?
>>18063Cool. I find blacklisting stuff doesn't really help though. It has to be a conscious effort from within.
>>18087You can't click the book.
A lot of personal websites have little stamps that link to other sites they like. It's a practice that went away for a while when search engines come along, but they're back.
>>18090 (me)
I got these from
https://punchy.neocities.org/linx.htmlThey really do add an aesthetic way of exploring the internet.
Leftypol should have at least one of these so people see a cute Alunya, click, and get taken here.
>>18054finding stuff on stack overflow
not having to manage my own archive of sites i like and search them myself
i agree search engines suck but "conceptually", theyre just a layer of shine over a database u get from crawling. If i wanted to build my own archive of sites with good answers to specific questions, or just documentation, i'd end up having to crawl those sites myself (probably get 403'd in the process because most sites + cloudflare'd sites hate bots even if it's not overwhelming), and then i'd have to build a search feature. Aka just a private search engine. The other alternative, just surfing the web, is crawling by hand….
YaCy looks cool but i couldnt get it to work, i was using debian or whonix i forget which, but hopefully when it's more developed, it could be a massively used alternative to proprietary, centralized search engines
>>18110 (me)
>not having to manage my own archive of sites i like and search them myselfand i don't mean bookmarks, i use bookmarks all the time but i can't get everything i need from bookmarks.
>>18835>I mean even Google was a good improvement on search when they first came around with their page rank algorithm.I remember massively positive mainstream-media buzz around Google from early on, but I don't actually remember Google
being better.
Also, RankDex by Robin Li (co-founder of Baidu) predates Google.
>>18054>Name a single time you used a search engine to find anything worth while1) I found a google drive of childrens books in spanish so I can easily apply my spanish skills by using google
2) I found tutorials of various sites that helped me figure out an issue with my computer, (various articles on how to chroot, sites to figure out why my computer uses 160% of the cpu when watching a video (turns out asus desynchronized with the board, cool. ), various code snipers to run in the terminal, etc.)
3) Finding sites that give lists of other sites that I can use (pirating sites, hidden wikis, porn sites, etc.)
There's more, but the point is, your post is gay and cringe – unlike my post, which is bisexual and based.
>>18065What a miss
>>18055>>18071>>18073>>18552>>18809Gay
>>18872>Resources like 3rd example are probably gonna become more common as the sentiment that search engines aren't good anymore risesAnd how are you going to fund such resources again?
Pray to your god for a site to list everything you'd possible want, or are the very a list another site that can give you an answer?
Search engines have limits and unneeded frustrations, but I don't see how one can hate a search engine to the point of not needing.
Even in their worst moments, they just reduce the scope needed to find an answer.
>>18954Just ignore the thread dawg.
These people provide nothing of an argument to search engines being terrible or useless.
Look at this post here:
>>18876 , no argument, just crying.
The same type of poster to have their fight or flight activated if someone made a joke thread saying "windows is better than linux since if you hold down was you get 'waswaswaswas'"
Lie thls poster:
>>18967 Is it really that hard to set up YaCy? Even if I could set it up would it use up a lot of data crawling the web? Would one have to use it while hiding your IP and whatnot in case it crawls something illegal or is that not an issue?
>>18990I never tried to look for documents on archive. What does a search for that look like?
>>18993yacy requires really outdated java libs, what a pain
I doubt you really have to worry about it crawling something illegal, even if you find some fed honeypot, you can prove from your traffic you were just crawling the web, and they would know if you e.g. just indexed the home page, or if you scraped images etc. So idk it'd probably hold up in court, but I'm no expert on wtf YaCy does specifically
>>19023Ah I see. Thanks. I should play around with it some time to get a feel of how to get good results.
>>19065Why would it use a dated dependency? Wouldnt someone have at least ported YaCy to a different language or updated it to use a different lib set or something by now? Does it have to do this to go across old websites?
At least in case of the US laws revolving around data dont make sense and arent even remotely fair so i wouldn't count on that.
>>19020Two issues:
a) You're limited to just what the
SEARCH ENGINE reddit offers which is limited by it's bias.
If I were interested in getting a torrent of a video game, and reddit is legally or culturally pressured to take down content about that, (just like r/shoplifting and r/incel respectfully), unless I can find a link to a separate resource from another comment, (which also can be censored if reddit is against such resource), I'm fucked.
b) Using reddit limits you to what reddit directly offers. If the solution is something outside of reddit, you'd have to hope that this resources is accessible (either through subreddit link or a comment link)
Like seriously: I recently had an issue with trying to figure out why my cpu jumps in usage when watching a video, and while I found the solution of a clone of a stackoverflow, I would've never found it since I'd neither knew that it was on that alternative stack overflow, but I'd never find a resource that would've granted a
SEARCH ENGINE that would give me the stack overflow alternative or even an answer from that overflow.
And it's funny that you go: "normies use it" – normies type "X reddit" on a search engine since even though reddit is helpful, it doesn't always help and having alternatives lined up is needed.
Again: search engines are fine, they're just one of many tools in your tool box to work with.
Saging so the thread can wind down from the dumb take.
>>20783I don't know anything about the internal design of search engines. Still i suspect duckduckgo tends to match keywords and literal text while google has more of a dwim approach. Most of the results you are getting are SEO optimized to death. I do several things to minimize the presence of these in the search results:
>minimize pronouns, prepositions and articles as much as possible<the more individual word matches, the more likely optimized sites will win>quote the word with the least likely results or an idiom<may get no results at all, especially with long quoted text>if a search fails, try again with synonymsThe reformulation you did for the first search isn't different enough. Either be more creative or get a thesaurus.
The most important thing is to anticipate what sites may match. Some search patterns will always give you crap results, even with google or whatever dwim search.
Flood detected; Post discarded. >>20784>The reformulation you did for the first search isn't different enough. Either be more creative or get a thesaurus.Not a bad tip, but it's odd just how many rings you have to jump through to make the engion work with you.
Like sure, these two aren't that different:
>Study in one sitting or throughout the day>Should you study multiple times a day or once a day.But I find it odd that a word like "study" was almost entirely descarded, and instead I was given results for tips for studying and working out.
>The most important thing is to anticipate what sites may match. Some search patterns will always give you crap results, even with google or whatever dwim searchInteresting.
You can use the "site:" argument in the search, so I guess I should use more tags.
>>20788That's interesting, can you make it give highlighted results?
Ex:
Query: "How to fork in C"
Results: Sites mentioneding "forking tutorial" and "C tutorial"
Highlighted answer at the top: "import <…>.c Fork()"
Unique IPs: 38