Replace your search engine with bookmarks and online community
>the interactive aspect of the web
Just ask your virtual assistant you can trust her answers I swear.
Before school started I tried to avoid using search engines for a while, and honestly it encourages good habits and makes it easier to remember stuff by making you have to remember stuff, or at least make notes instead of assuming you can just look it up again later.
Try adding these to your /etc/hosts,
And just keep that pattern going for whatever search engines you use.
Let me guess: you only use the Internet for Twitter and Disc0rd and reposting screencaps from them onto imageboards?>>18063
Cool. I find blacklisting stuff doesn't really help though. It has to be a conscious effort from within.
Fair. Personally I find blacklisting stuff helps since it makes caving into habits take more effort than the desired alternative.
these days I would be open to use a paid service for search, if it existed, similar to chacha back in the day. I've found lately that the only way to get actual information in a timely manner is to pay someone who has it to share it with you. Everything decent has been scrubbed, buried, filtered or outright deleted.
Kagi.com is user-paid (never used it myself). I sometimes use wiby.org which uses a tiny index that gets hand-checked. The software is free so maybe there will be a spinoff with a bigger index in the near future.
Another good habit is to archive any page or whole site you find interesting not just through archiving services but on your own data storage.
i just hate how search engines always assume you're a retard. you can try to be as specific as you want with your queries, but the results will almost always be mangled to serve the lowest common denominator
At that point, why not just walk away from the screen, uygha? Read books instead?
Books remove the interactive aspect of the education which makes it such a unique endeavour and help commercialize its very content.
You tried. And that's what matters in the here and now
You can't click the book.
A lot of personal websites have little stamps that link to other sites they like. It's a practice that went away for a while when search engines come along, but they're back.
I got these from https://punchy.neocities.org/linx.html
They really do add an aesthetic way of exploring the internet.
Leftypol should have at least one of these so people see a cute Alunya, click, and get taken here.
finding stuff on stack overflow
not having to manage my own archive of sites i like and search them myself
i agree search engines suck but "conceptually", theyre just a layer of shine over a database u get from crawling. If i wanted to build my own archive of sites with good answers to specific questions, or just documentation, i'd end up having to crawl those sites myself (probably get 403'd in the process because most sites + cloudflare'd sites hate bots even if it's not overwhelming), and then i'd have to build a search feature. Aka just a private search engine. The other alternative, just surfing the web, is crawling by hand….
YaCy looks cool but i couldnt get it to work, i was using debian or whonix i forget which, but hopefully when it's more developed, it could be a massively used alternative to proprietary, centralized search engines
(me)>not having to manage my own archive of sites i like and search them myself
and i don't mean bookmarks, i use bookmarks all the time but i can't get everything i need from bookmarks.
Search engines now just exist to funnel you through as many irrelevant links as possible for advertising purposes. That's why google is the worst offender. Their entire business model is pretty well supported by advertising. Microsoft at least has other revenue avenues so bing isn't as egregious. But using them to actually learn or find information unironically defeats the purpose of them now, which is to just shill to you.
This is what happens when you have people grow up without memorizing most of Fravia+'s searchlores.
Technology companies aren't really about technology anymore, they're more like cartels for financial speculators. For example, Apple's actual business now is speculating on content IP for their streaming platforms (Apple TV, Apple Music, Apple Podcasts). Their computer division has been dead weight for a long time, with most of its work contracted out to an entire army of small to mid sized bottomfeeder firms whose entire business is said contracts. Every mindnumbingly mediocre rom-com spec script with a marginally notable name attached to it, every Tekashi 6ix9ine lookalike out of some godforsaken Florida suburb signed with a shady label, every true crime podcast about the Disgusting Pervert of Bumfuck, Nebraska, bought up in batches in the hopes of netting decent returns out of at least some of them with the help of algorithms.
when you forget the trailing zero in your null-terminated string
yeah is anyone else convinced that all SE's got terrible on purpose for years so that the Chatbots would come in as a sweet relief?
No it was just result of algorithms that altered behaviours of users that fed back into th algorithm so it just kept getting worse. Failed design not planned obsolescence.
Chatbots are terrible, I can't understand why people keep claiming that they solve the same problem as search engines.
But why were these algorithms implemented? Unix search features from the 1980s already mostly worked for the early Internet where early search engines just treated the Internet as a massive LAN and just crawled through every plain text file on the Internet to create indexes of keywords that search engines actually looked through. This earlier system worked well enough for finding data on the Internet yet Google decided to change it to a system that is less functional.
There's a couple things you can do to make search better. I mean even Google was a good improvement on search when they first came around with their page rank algorithm. There's also things like fuzzy searching or even searching for similar terms even if you didn't write it in your search that involves a bunch of NLP things. The issue has a lot to do with google searches basically being the way most people are used to finding things on the web which makes people game SEO to the point of absurdity. Google being primarily an ad company also has a big impact on this too.
Yet there are other search engines like Internet Archive that is closer to the older method. And it is far easier to find something that exists on Internet Archive through their search engine then to find something that exists on the Internet through Google.
Language models are even worse than search engines.
Yeah, the problem is how they define relevancy. There's so much you can game by weighing based on links (which is what page rank was based off of). Still using some NLP methods are a good addition on top of the "old method". Like I learned some interesting things about it that I hope get used in some of these search systems when I took an NLP course. Specifically related to what is called "document retrieval".
>>18835>I mean even Google was a good improvement on search when they first came around with their page rank algorithm.
I remember massively positive mainstream-media buzz around Google from early on, but I don't actually remember Google being
Also, RankDex by Robin Li (co-founder of Baidu) predates Google.
>>18054>Name a single time you used a search engine to find anything worth while
1) I found a google drive of childrens books in spanish so I can easily apply my spanish skills by using google
2) I found tutorials of various sites that helped me figure out an issue with my computer, (various articles on how to chroot, sites to figure out why my computer uses 160% of the cpu when watching a video (turns out asus desynchronized with the board, cool. ), various code snipers to run in the terminal, etc.)
3) Finding sites that give lists of other sites that I can use (pirating sites, hidden wikis, porn sites, etc.)
There's more, but the point is, your post is gay and cringe – unlike my post, which is bisexual and based. >>18065
What a miss>>18055>>18071>>18073>>18552>>18809
Resources like 3rd example are probably gonna become more common as the sentiment that search engines aren't good anymore rises, and people make a retvrn to manual curation of such things.
>>18872>Resources like 3rd example are probably gonna become more common as the sentiment that search engines aren't good anymore rises
And how are you going to fund such resources again?
Pray to your god for a site to list everything you'd possible want, or are the very a list another site that can give you an answer?
Search engines have limits and unneeded frustrations, but I don't see how one can hate a search engine to the point of not needing.
Even in their worst moments, they just reduce the scope needed to find an answer.
>>18869>There's more, but the point is, your post is gay and cringe – unlike my post, which is bisexual and based.
Instantly cringed and discarded
funny you should say that when you are bots yourselves…
Prove I'm (>>18837) a bot.
so damn often it actually boggle the mind someone could be retarded enough to make this post
Try finding a good searx or searxng instance. It's the least shitty search engine I know of.
Have you considered killing yourself to stop the constant anger?
Just ignore the thread dawg.
These people provide nothing of an argument to search engines being terrible or useless.
Look at this post here: >>18876
, no argument, just crying.
The same type of poster to have their fight or flight activated if someone made a joke thread saying "windows is better than linux since if you hold down was you get 'waswaswaswas'"
Lie thls poster: >>18967
the new bing is decent for literature research.
>>18982>These people provide nothing of an argument to search engines being terrible or useless.
Yet Google is still useless compared to the search engine of Internet Archive. Finding documents on Internet Archive is a breeze thanks to being able to filter your results, a feature Google still doesn't have.
Microsoft Academic was amazing for it, of course they had to "retire" it. You can't have Microsoft making something that's actually useful. I'm so glad I did my masters when it was still functioning.
Is it really that hard to set up YaCy? Even if I could set it up would it use up a lot of data crawling the web? Would one have to use it while hiding your IP and whatnot in case it crawls something illegal or is that not an issue? >>18990
I never tried to look for documents on archive. What does a search for that look like?
>>18874>And how are you going to fund such resources again?
Reddit. It's what normies already do.
>>18982>The same type of poster to have their fight or flight activated if someone made a joke thread saying "windows is better than linux since if you hold down was you get 'waswaswaswas'"
I wouldn't have a fight or flight reflex activated if someone made a joke thread saying that
yacy requires really outdated java libs, what a pain
I doubt you really have to worry about it crawling something illegal, even if you find some fed honeypot, you can prove from your traffic you were just crawling the web, and they would know if you e.g. just indexed the home page, or if you scraped images etc. So idk it'd probably hold up in court, but I'm no expert on wtf YaCy does specifically
Ah I see. Thanks. I should play around with it some time to get a feel of how to get good results.>>19065
Why would it use a dated dependency? Wouldnt someone have at least ported YaCy to a different language or updated it to use a different lib set or something by now? Does it have to do this to go across old websites?
At least in case of the US laws revolving around data dont make sense and arent even remotely fair so i wouldn't count on that.
pubmed cause built-in search is dogshit
dammit I should be using this. Great post, thanks.
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