/labor/ - Labor

I never dreamed of working. All jobs seemed too hard or too boring. Maybe I thought I was going to have some easy office job but over time I realized those required a lot of soft skills that I never bothered to cultivate. Plus an office job would make you fatter anyways.

Childhood
>fishmonger
>garbage man
Teenage years
>nothing, I didnt wanna work

>>1546
>serial killer(Yes, I'm from the U.S.)
its hard but if you get into Delta Force you can get paid to be a serial killer.

>>1549
It's just too hard to be a serial killer nowadays. Maybe if it was the 1970s or 80s it could be an actual goal.

last week at this particular place. if you think that workers demanding a reasonable work load as to not compromise their physical health as some kind of "entitlement" you belong in a fucking mass grave
>it's not the appropriate time to worry about your health you know
>you soft ass newbies are being way too entitled, when we were starting this business that business we were working our asses off for 13 hours a day with 2 people on site only, can't you understand
>no we're not letting your coworker to help you guys right now, even despite him being in a dire financial situation. why? we're not telling you

>>1414
They really do want us to be sick and injured all the time

Just give me a fucking job, anything I can get to and work. I can't do fucking nightshifts because the person I'm living with won't let me fuck this gay earth

My boss is such a power tripping bitch. I stopped to talk to somebody for maybe two minutes and she told me off for "distracting other associates". Of course, she did it in the most passive aggressive way, just to be extra cuntish.

Fuck this place, what a goddamn joke this is. I don't know if I can deal with another 3-4 decades of this, navigating a world full of authoritarian personalities with overinflated egos before I'm finally allowed to enjoy life.

So after working there for 3 months as a working student colleagues and my immediate boss are super nice and helpful but the workplace is a dump, pay is worse than during my last job. The lab is dusty and smells like shit. Management fucked up and delayed the transition to the new warehouse.

Catch myself browsing through job postings for like an hour each day

>>1543
I'm sorry but this is ver funny, cartoon villan shit.

>>1334
My friend works as this and messed up an interview at Apple for the same role. The job is pretty much deadend and sticking out will be an uphill battle as its really just like a factory line. You can try going above and beyond by asking ur manager if you can help with random shit or take work off their plate. Hopefully your at a good company that does internal promotions, otherwise it will be the same. Your next move up would be a data auditor and data quality guy

>>1334
just making sure for a question, this is the site correct? and if so would this possibly be a good side-job to do whilst I am primarily a lumberjack? applying now but wouldn't know about this otherwise, if so thanks OP

the ptsd should be your priority mate, then finish the degree if possible. open a gofundme if you have to mooch for meds, i guess

>law degree
Bud, it’s a degree mill profession.

ugh I don't really see where you're getting this idea that people hate working or jobs, I think that's maybe something you see a lot on niche places on the internet, but in real life most people are still just slaves to capitalism, they don't even want you to think, you're supposed to just either find a job and work (and if you don't then it's your fault you're just lazy) or you're just supposed to immediately take something in school and get into debt to pay for the tuition. I have always seen the way most people view working and the education system as like some pinball machine, it pretty much is this strange game you are supposed to play, you are just taking risks and chances all the time with your god damn life, and it's almost like this daring, exciting risk of chance to the average person. You just hit the ball around trying to strike gold or get "rich" or some shit. At least, that's the average understanding the average person seems to have of the workings of the system we are in. The thing is, even if they do know more, they mostly want to keep people like you in the dark as much as possible.

But it's like capitalism is supposed to just literally be a part of nature or life, and you're just literally surviving on your ability to fend for yourself in nature. It's just weird as fuck.

That has been the majority of my experience with a lot of people, the vast majority, which is why I don't really have more experiences because it started to become so dreadful. Most people aren't that intelligent I think, and have no idea what they're really doing. Or they know just enough to extort people, but for them it's probably something they studied a lot and it was a major deal with them, like simple intellectual concepts, intellectual concepts at all are a sign of intelligence or a big deal to the average person probably.

I just see a lot of people like they're slaves, or not much different then dogs, like they're made to be incredibly territorial and they can't be taught hardly or see beyond those strong instincts. Property=territory, and a job, I have no idea what that really is to some people. They really think that some rich capitalist industrialist or bushiness owner is like some caveman Savannah dude who is like a tribal god or deity magically creating the conditions by killing a t-rex and stealing a pterodactyl egg or something like I don't get it? it doesn't make sense.

But that's why I think some people are predisposed to being right wing or something, and not really very capable of being liberated.

The thing is scientists say that human beings are supposed to be social creatures, and that quite obviously is true to an extinct, but the way in which people can be social really diverges quite a lot. Some people they remind me almost of cavemen. There's a lot we don't know about the cavemen, but you can totally imagine their ancestors hitting people over the head with clubs, and using rocks for everything, without bathing. I mean, I like the flintstones and other depictions of them, so maybe I shouldn't go there.

I think higher up on the intelligence spectrum there are people who see everything like it's some part of a party, an extension of corporations basically, since they basically rule the world, and not all that removed from sports or something. That doesn't bother me as much, but to see everything like an extension of corporations is terrible. I guess it's more like an allegiance and is not quite the same.

But seeing capitalism like it's just 'nature' is just super weird to me. But I don't think some people can really be as communal or collectivist as others are capable of. But that's a complicated subject because I want to be collectivist for example, but I find myself considering myself an individualist most of the time. I would have to be really extreme if I were to be a collectivist as an example, sort of, but not in a super traditionalist way like a lot of people would think of that notion.

Sometimes I drift almost towards some kind of neoliberal or libertarianism position where I'm astonished that we spend so much money on schooling when, in my personal experience, you'd literally get the same results sitting everyone aged 10-18 a computer in a prison.
The only biasing factor is that my parents taught me to read, write, and do math. If your parents were unwilling or unable to do that, I see the use of school to teach you (in theory - in practice the kinds of kids who came from those families didn't exactly excel in school either), but other than that: just one gigantic inefficient waste of time. There are a lot of things you can't self-teach, sure, and school taught me and most other kids none of them. For the few who did pick up an instrument or a language and didn't immediately forget it in their 20s, you could get that outcome much more cheaply without the whole wasteful edifice of public school.

It runs against every socialist instinct I have, but whenever I think back on it, I become convinced by a sort of libertarian argument that we should all-but-abolish public education and just send parents a cheque to the value of the average cost of educating a child. Choice and competition would promote less-useless childcare (which is what 90% of education is) with more options for focusing on what you or your parents want out of it, being able to switch providers would provide an actually-effective way to deal with bullying, and for families that just use the money to supplement their income instead of buying a good education, the money's probably going to do them more good than sending their kid to school to be bullied by teachers for struggling thanks to their poor home life.
Obviously that's not my "under full communism…" solution, but it might be the most radical right-wing policy proposal that I find myself sympathetic to.

Really, the only thing that puts me off advocating such a position is the other people who're attracted to it…

>>1539
Maybe we should separate kids from their families for a few years like around ages 10-14 where they could be taught to learn on their own while living on their own for a time. Under supervision of experts of course. I always thought that this was a good idea since I've often thought that families are often the biggest impediments in the development of a child to an independent and functional adult.

>>1340
>How
Capitalism. The rote memorization makes good worker. Thinking does not. school is not for learning its like a pedigree certificate. you still need familiar connections the cert is just proof. you are supposed to trade money and time for network not for education.
>>1342
>speak with your professors
They can't do anything about a system working as intended.
>>1344
>get into philosophy
philosophy is also infested with stem brainworms. its been replaced with analytics

>>1371
Math and English Language Arts respectively

>>1372
Professors at my college were quite happy to give practical examples, feel like the main thing holding them back from putting it in the course material was time constraints, which ya know, capitalism upstream.

>>1343
>logarithms have no real application to society or communism
jfc anon

>>1370
>>1373
Pure Math is one of the hardest STEM fields (only behind Physics) and Languages imo is one of the easiest Humanities fields (Arts even more so). A fairer competition would be something like Civil Engineering versus History.

>>1523
dont you have to stand in one spot for like 6+ hours as a security guard?

>>1526
It probably depends on where you work

I always wanted to be an inland waterway boatman when I was younger. I thought the biggest part of the job would be drinking tea and watching the world go by. Don’t know how it really is tho.

Computer programmer. You just sit on your ass all day solving fun puzzles while making huge amounts of money and changing the world for the better.

>>1531
now give us your serious answer

mcDonalds has done a lot to propagandize culture into believing that
>fast food workers do not deserve tips
from not putting in a system in place to tip workers
to actively discouraging workers in training to not ask for tips to buying and supporting any form of media that encourages you not to tip fast food workers.

tips are fucking atrocious. just like getting paid by production

>>1023
is there a real reason to tip people like cashiers or mcdonalds workers? especially if it's one of those pooled automatically applied tips, just seems like price hikes disguised as some sort of charitable action so the consumer feels better about paying

>>1023
>le consumer politics
fucking nobody reads engels' on the housing question

>>1508
I get a loaf of store brand bread from my grocery chain for about $2.50
Look into rice, you can get a big bag from mexican/latino stores for cheap my gram used to do that.

>>1505
uygha literally just buy actual noodles in bulk packs, the right types cook in less than two minutes (less stove cost), and it encourages you to put actual nutrition in there instead of salt, salt n salty.
daily reminder that the dominant flavor in indome mee goreng is MSG. Taste raw MSG crystals and you will know I'm not joking.

>>1497
>doesn't even list a country or date
terrible chart. absolutely disgusting. the fact that you reuploaded it on this site is worrying.

Therea an app called Too Good To Go, it let's you buy like a mystery bag of food from stores that's close to its expiration date. It depends on the store but at my grocery store we give some nice shit for cheap, its supposed to be $30~ worth of product for $5 last time i checked.

Here's one. I call it the Amazon Forever Warranty.
Say something you own breaks or wears down. Just buy the same item on Amazon and return your old one for a full refund. I have abused this policy for years. I think below a certain price threshold, they just don't care because I've sent returned incorrect items with no question. I must have stolen several thousand dollars worth of merchandise by now.