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I can understand why some would support something like communism, but not stuff like Yarvin's dark enlightenment or neo reactionism. It doesn't even sound good on paper. It sounds worse than a cyberpunk dystopia, like a worst case scenario for society. Why would anyone want to go back to feudalism, wasn't life terrible and even worse than today then. Who would want to have low human rights and be ruled over by CEO-Kings? He even joked about turning the poor into biofuel, and then defended it as an ethical way to carry out a genocide. He is obviously a racist and sexist as well.

Apparently many powerful people in tech industry and the republican party. Peter Thiel, JD Vance, Marc Andreessen, and Steve Bannon seem to support his ideas to varying degrees. His idea of RAGE is being implemented by Trump and Musk right now. It would be very hard for his ideal of techno-feudalism to be applied and have the world turned into small city-states as he said, but it's disturbing how his ideas have gained so much traction that powerful people are implementing some of them I think at a large scale.

I can't believe this guy isn't more famous than he is, but I think if he was more well known, he'd cause the republicans to be even more discredited than they already are now. Or it would possibly discredit America more that openly neofeudalism sympathizers are in the government currently.

He's also not really considered an actual intellectual or philosopher despite how much influence he has. He's a software engineer and self taught, which leads him to not be respected by academia I think. Although he was smart and his past of being skipped ahead several grades in school meant something, his ideology seems not very well thought out.

Yarvin also coined the term redpill from the Matrix movie.

You should watch behind the bastards podcast on this to learn more about this guy.

I didn't read this article but I got the title from here.
https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/curtis-yarvin/

How is Moldbug different from Dugin?

>Why would anyone want to go back to feudalism, wasn't life terrible and even worse than today then.
Some guy on 4cuck told me that feudal peasants worked less and prospered more because the black plague killed a bunch of people, and that's why we need to deport(kill) all immigrants(anyone brown)
Now try to argue with that guy, or just sent him to a reeducation camp until he's worth operating in society again. That's the guy who would be into this shit.
These are the same type of guys who would fall for Nazism, because they just assume they would live well under it. They're white after all! What do they have to worry about? Except all the draconian rule and being another cog in the machine or waking up one day and being told you're not pure enough here's your train ticket or your drawing looked too degenerate, whatever.
We're not dealing with rational people here. Decades of them yelling about the NWO and here with have Thiel and Musk, billionaire CEO's who want chips in people's brains, have bloodboys to keep themselves young, believe themselves to have some mandate of heaven, etc
>I can't believe this guy isn't more famous than he is, but I think if he was more well known, he'd cause the republicans to be even more discredited than they already are now. Or it would possibly discredit America more that openly neofeudalism sympathizers are in the government currently.
And just like how I've given up on thinking we're dealing with rational people, I don't believe their momentum is organic either. Governments literally talk about George Soros for less
The select the rich ghouls they want to talk about

They've gotten high off their own supply I think

>Curtis Guy Yarvin[22] was born in 1973… His grandparents on his father's side were Jewish American and communists.

You think he received metzitzah b'peh as a baby?

>>2166782
>Why would anyone want to go back to feudalism, wasn't life terrible and even worse than today then. Who would want to have low human rights and be ruled over by CEO-Kings?

they are motivated more by resentment for who they percieve as their enemies than they are by what would be a better world for people in general. it sounds too simple, but unfortunately i think it is often that simple when it comes to the figuring out the intentions of reactionaries, ESPECIALLY this kind of timely, trendy, inexplicably cheesy reactionary following

>>2166796
the first and only point that matters is that Moldbug is far more influential on the levers of power in the US than Dugin is in the RF. Dugin is a better known name is russia than Moldbug is in america, but thats not surprising because russians read a lot more. they are respectively good encapsulations of anglophone and russophone reactionary tendencies, for sure, so i understand the comparison. but as of the ascendency of the Trump admin & following through on letting Musk have his run of things, Moldbug is by far the more influential reactionary

>>2167021
Literally no one does MBP outside of Hareidi communities. Most Jews haven't even heard of the practice. Antisemites love invoking it because they're antisemites.

>>2167021
Dumb anti semite

>>2166782
First automation then robotics and now AI. There is less and less need for proletarian work so why would sefdom be reinstated? Slaves dont create as much surplus value as free range workers.

>>2167167
the rate of profit falls over time, which means at a certain point, if it hasn't already, wage labor (only in america) will be less profitable than other known or unknown modes of production. appropriating and selling the digital data you produce posting on leftypol is not just theory, it's happening to right now

and because the market value of digital data increases with time, a future is possible where the appropriator of your data can give you a portion of that value back as a form of UBI for your basic daily needs

this is the future Yarvin envisions

>>2166782
Curtis Yarvin is just a Maoist who wants a great leap forward in the imperial core. It's literally just that Silicon Valley is envious of Chinese economic success.

>>2167172
market value of digital data will collapse as soon as the underlying industrial base, which merely exists in the imperial core anyways, shits the bed. this whole data is the oil of the 21st century babble is a giant scam, nothing more.

>>2166782
You made this thread already last week.
You will never make anybody care about your literally who twitter nerd.
Get a fucking grip. Sort your life out.

>Why would anyone want to go back to feudalism, wasn't life terrible and even worse than today then.
They think their sworn ennemies (white libs, lgbt and white leftists) will suffer the most from it, in reality it will mostly affect the worldwide brown non-east asian population and white reactionaries due to their lack of intelligence and systemic dysgenic tendencies, only a minority of reactionaries will benefit from it. White libs will still rule most of the game, white leftists will still be depressed middle managers/PMC and not bottom feeders. I also include most jews in the white category of course.
It might actually be dangerous for their social-conservative agenda long term to do this neofeudal bullshit because it will also cause a virtuous effect on the LGBT demographic, i mean G and T, by cutting off all the neurotic midwits normie "pseudo queers" with lame radicool politics that started to identify as gay or trans during the 2010 since they will go back in the closet due to ambiant reactionary attitudes, or die. It will also break the globoliberalism social contract that forces queers to be nice and submissive in exchange for rights and hideous netflix slop drag race yas queen, they will become less openly visible but more assertive and powerful behind closed doors.

>>2167021
>You think he received metzitzah b'peh as a baby?
You also made this exact shitty post with the exact embed multiple times.
Why are jannies like this that they believe this shit is quality content?

>>2167187
we need to start bullying nerds again

>>2167185
>underlying industrial base existing in the core
are you not aware most Tesla's are coming out of Shanghai nowadays? American companies don't put together anything in an American factory with American workers because they literally can't make any commodity as cheap as just importing it from China. Those factory jobs will never return. Every american will transform into a digital serf since it'll be the only way to afford the treats they can't live without

>>2166782
I think we have to accept that these people are evil and cannot be reasoned with
Also Yarvin unlike open neonazis appealed to richoid aesthetic sense and their egos

Can't wait to see freaks like Yarvin getting publicly flayed alive if we can pull off a revolution.

>>2167194
>Every american will transform into a digital serf
kek, imagine believing the bullshit of these silicon valley nutters.

>>2167193
Say again?

>>2166805
It actually is true people worked less during preindustrial society. His reasoning as to why is obviously wrong though.

I think "neofeudal" is still not a great label, they still want private property and wage labor and his thoughts are about basically, in his own words, capitalism finding alternatives to genociding elements of the working class outright as the declining rate of profit shoves portions of them out of what the bourgeoisie will employ one way or the other. I think about how Nietzsche was considered (and is still considered) a genius but some of his thoughts were bent towards radically enforced aristocracy in the face of it's end days and laying blame (in his case on Christianity) for why that was and prescribing extreme ideas on how to right things, criticizing Bismark for not utterly crushing opposition movements, etc. and describing a "Caesar with the heart of Christ" who can rule with an iron fist as the ideal sort of leader. Yarvin is similar to that (though I am NOT giving him credit as an equivalent to Nietzsche) in that it's about laying blame and advocating an iron fisted salvation of capitalism, both hearken back to the slave economies of the bronze and early iron age for examples too. It's a very reactionary reaction to a decline and sense of precarity in a sort of political rulership in both cases.

>>2167265
Depends on your definition of work, sure peasants weren’t literally on the fields as long as people are in offices and factories now but they had to make all of their own clothes and cook all their food by hand and make all their tools by hand. There was very little idle time which is why most were illiterate.

>>2167172
>the rate of profit falls over time
This is pseudoscientific cope.

>>2167291
Dr. William Paul Cock Shot has empirically proved this

>>2167291
global birthrates are below replacement nerd. workers build the world and capitalism sociologically destroys their future replacements. this alone is unsustainable, no amount of innovation will save it

>>2167172
yeah they already use our posts and comments and photos on social media to train AI. Every nude everyone has ever sent over social media became training data. Every racist facebook rant someone's grandma made became training data. When you fill out captchas you're also training AI on the tasks in the captcha, which is why they keep getting more abstract over time, because the old captchas are already solvable by AI.
>>2167291
As variable capital decreases and constant capital increases, which happens due to automation, industries become less profitable because the commodities they produce have lower SNLT. This is why digital commodities are rented as services instead of sold once like they used to be. Rent has replaced profit in the software world because companies can only make money with a subscription model. But as the companies compete and undercut each other, even the subscriptions become cheaper. And if workers don't make enough to buy things they need, they aren't going to subscribe to software services. They'll pirate instead. The rate of profit is falling despite some counter tendencies.

>>2167186
>Don't talk about the guy who has an ideological influence on the VP and billionaires who are working for the government
Maybe you are a glowie

>>2167291
You don't know ball.

>>2167318
post evidence
>>2167322
so when exactly did the rate of profit begin to fall?
>>2167400
is rent not a form of profit? to marx, it is a form of surplus value that must by necessity feed on labour power. the conversion of society into a rent economy is just the nature of intellectual property, but if it is truly built on nothing, it wont last very long. if the fear is that it is a competitor to industrial capital, then surely it must be profitable.

>>2167187
physiognomy.
also, everyone should check out yarvin's oldest interviews. serious nerd stutter and lack of emotional control. he is not royalty, to say the least.
but this is precisely why the soviets depicted capitalists as subhumans and the proletariat as heroes, because it is this sort of spiritual battle. its likd nietzsche's ubermensch vs the last man, except that all the last men are nietzscheans. lol.

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>>2166782
The rationalwiki article on Yarvin is great stuff btw

>>2167021
Most likely.

>>2167021
Honest question: why the hell are Jews so maligned on this board? Why do so many people on here openly call for the deaths of Jews, claim Jewish identity is inherently reactionary and Jews should convert to Christianity, attack Jewish beliefs and rituals, and overall spew out anti-Jewish hatred?

What the fuck is your problem?

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>>2166782
>You should watch behind the bastards podcast on this to learn more about this guy.
>Unironically recommending Bellingcat

Retarded gamergate enthusiast russiagate cope thread #419 this week great job people of gender

>>2167901
Social libertarians are incapable of rejecting the false credibility of anything that feels hype to them on social media and are willing vectors of even oppositional rage bait ideas there is no hope of making these retards stop posting leftoid drivel

>>2167021
I love how this sicko's face lights up and he starts smiling every time he talks about the actual dick-cutting.

Yanis saw this shit and all the bitches debated about how he was dumb for using "feudalism". Like Marx wasn't pulling terms of the past, "proletarian".

>>2167844
Ziggers from gore Telegram groups

>>2167187
>because it will also cause a virtuous effect on the LGBT demographic, i mean G and T, by cutting off all the neurotic midwits normie "pseudo queers" with lame radicool politics that started to identify as gay or trans during the 2010 since they will go back in the closet due to ambiant reactionary attitudes, or die.
Aren't the neoreactionary people fairly cool with gays? I know Thiel is one himself.

>>2168296
Thiel got outed againts his will by some blogger agency which he later destroyed out of spite and still has no bf or husband
Sam Altman however is fully on board with his gayness

According to Yarvin Rome was founded by 6'6 blond Yamnaya steppe gods that later got diluted by the thrall class .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzydTv1f8lY

Go to around 1 hour and 4 minutes.

I really don't get his argument, sounds more like a 4chan shitpost.

Seriously, just look at this yarvin faggot. I think the only person who naturally just radiates worse vibes is thiel.

>>2166782
People who look like this would have their face smashed in with my mace under feudalism.

Why is it always subhuman low test manlets parroting these ideologies.

>>2166796
How are you seriously asking this? Have you read the works of either of them? They are diametrically opposed. Multipolarity is anti-chauvinistic, relativistic, unabashedly postmodernist, Dugin even goes so far as to literally deny biology. Moldbug is a naive empiricist/logical positivist, a chauvinistic monarch who believes in racial and cultural supremacy, anti-relativist, biodeterminist, etc.

>>2167027
<they are motivated more by resentment for who they percieve as their enemies than they are by what would be a better world for people in general.
https://exiledonline.com/we-the-spiteful/

yes, the classic spite voter

>>2167027
>>2168879
somehow the ubermensch is always being oppressed by the untermensch… weird.

>>2168560
its just the myth of the barbarian
after the romans became civilised they started envying barbarians for being some mythic image of their own ancestry. a simar condescensionnis done today where bourgeois subjects will "envy" the "simple" people, especially any underdeveloped peoples as "authentic". its like how rich people say "money isnt everything" or its white people who say "i hate white people". many, many men idolise primitivist aesthetics but would be too afraid of camping in a tent for the night. the point is, the performance of authenticity is inauthentic. what reactionaries dont want to face is that if their ancestors could come to today, they would be amazed, not disappointed.

>>2168879
It's amazing how well that aged.

>>2167642
>but this is precisely why the soviets depicted capitalists as subhumans and the proletariat as heroes, because it is this sort of spiritual battle
A lot of people here will scream at you talking about how that was cringe aesttheciazation of politics and antimaterial spiritual nonsense and maybe they're right
but so were the soviets, you're absolutely on point too. the average normie won't understand any of those words, but they will see these weirdo nerds who want to turn them into biomatter vs handsome working men who are more relatable

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>>2168941
well i am a basic moralist
what is the battle between capitalism and socialism about? good versus evil. ugliness versus beauty.
idc what the cynics on this website have to say about that. if the idea of socialism has no normative content, why be a socialist to begin with? you cant escape morality, but only ignore it.

>>2168560
He sounds really autistic.

>>2167108
kys кike apologist

>>2166782
>>2167187
He looks like what you'd imagine the header image next to "rapist" would be in an encyclopedia. He is the rapiest lookest freak of all time.

>>2168560
Uwa its the creepy eugenicist couple. They sound worse than I thought they would

>>2169027
Go back.

holy shit you guys are lame, post some of those cyberpunk edits PLEASE!

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>>2166782
Another Jewish Nazi which seems to be all too common these days

>>2169140
I hate nick land

>>2172675
they think they will get special treatment once the gentiles take control

>>2166782
<It doesn't even sound good on paper. It sounds worse than a cyberpunk dystopia, like a worst case scenario for society.
his audience is wealthy men like Thiel/Musk who will rule that society, not ordinary people.

>>2168946

Its because many confuse moralism with having a morality/normative foundation of some kind with which to advocate for socialism.

Moralism is however not the latter; Its evacuating all analysis in favour or moral appraisal (whether condoning or condemning).

His ideology is more complicated than just urbanist electronic serfdom, but it is no coincidence that the calcified reactionary elite has always gravitated towards feudalism

>>2168560
It is always fun seeing this because its a sort of cope by nerds to justify inequal and hierarchical imperiums like Rome by tying it to 6'6 chads, in reality the chads were always the barbarians and nomads who lived from places to places while the settled aristocracy degenerated into unhealthy, mercury poisoned and inbred aristos who stabbed each other because wealth inequality destroyed social cohesion of a tribal society as Ibn Khaldun noticed all those centuries ago

Is there any good articles or pieces about this guy and their movement? I'd like to learn more.

>>2173921
He even mentions that some Romans admitted that the Germans lived righteously, just like the original Romans in the myths of the time, but then Moldbug attributes Roman degeneracy to genetic deterioration.

>>2167021
Unironically, yes.

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>Since February 5th, 2025, a document warning about Curtis Yarvin and the Silicon Valley led coup attempt has been circulating among think tank experts and DNC employees. The document is titled “The Imminent Neoreactionary Threat to the American Republic”. It opens with a statement that the brief was, “iteratively and collectively compiled by a broad, bipartisan, and decentralized network of experts who wish to remain anonymous due to concerns about being targeted.”
https://www.scribd.com/document/832844833/Evidence-Brief-for-Journalists-The-Neoreactionar-250206-110351

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>>2169140
Fascism isn't a mode of production.

>>2177215
transhumanist hyper-fascism is

>>2168840
yeah, so he's just a different flavor of retard, lol


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