[ home / rules / faq ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM ] [ meta ] [ wiki / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]

/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

"The anons of the past have only shitposted on the Internet about the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it."
Name
Options
Subject
Comment
Flag
File
Embed
Password(For file deletion.)


File: 1741565675172.jpeg (915.38 KB, 2730x3651, IMG_6311.jpeg)

 

George Orwell was not a great writer he was not a leftist Who work with MI6 and he was also racist.

I don't think you'll find any disagreement here.

Who cares?

>>2182514
He has no philtrum and thin lips
Looks fuckin weird

>>2182514
Always funny to watch MLs cock gobbling actual butchers of proletarians and communists and then shitting themselves with fury over people whom cannot have actual deaths attributed to them if nothing else lmao

>>2182572
How many died because he decided to be a tourist and not use his experience and education to figure out why the anarchists and communists made the moves they did?


>>2182758
He could have used his experience in torturing the Burmese for information for the benefit of the anarchists.
Why didn't he?

>the spiritual need for patriotism and the military values, for which, however little the boiled rabbits of the Left may like them, no substitute has yet been found.

British-characteristics socialism👍
英国特色社会主义

He was a leftist unfortunately. In order to grow we must acknowledge that there are bad eggs in our movements, especially grifter opportunists like orwell. From that we can see the grifters now for what they are.

>>2182514
Orwell wanted to write about USSR, but he wrote about Britain. It's plain obvious by now

File: 1741622842122.png (278.11 KB, 1708x449, orwell_criticism.png)

>>2182572
today i will remind them

>>2182962
No, is it like a dinner party or an essay?

This is well known OP

>>2182964
He also reported people for being Jewish too

File: 1741665309191.jpg (51.63 KB, 686x386, hq720.jpg)

>>2182810
It's more about James Burnham who wrote The Managerial Society, which was published in 1941. It's Orwell's argument with Burnham. O'Brien in the novel is basically Burnham, is espousing Burnham's views, or how Orwell saw them. Also the part in Nineteen Eighty-Four about the proles consuming cheap tabloid crap – that's very British and un-USSR.

BTW, Orwell wrote an essay called "Second Thoughts on James Burnham." I'd read that. Burnham was a Trotskyist who turned on communism and became a conservative, and held that politics is just about power hunger and power struggle and it's very cynical. And that's also true for Stalin, but unlike people who stuck with Trotskyism, Burnham saw Stalin as Lenin's legitimate heir – it's just that Lenin was also just about naked force and power. Democracy has never existed and will never exist. It's by nature oligarchical and the masses, if they participate in a revolution, are really just been bamboozled by some other group who wants to install themselves into power and get all the privileges. At the same time, Burnham liked to talk about Stalin as a "great man" primarily on account of his ruthlessness and ability to dominate other people. So for Orwell, Burnham was clearly admiring Stalin for all the wrong reasons.

Orwell didn't like Stalin either, because he didn't think Stalin was particularly socialist and he had set up a dictatorship. But he thought Burnham betrayed an admiration for Stalin for the same reason.

BTW, that was after Burnham predicted a German victory over the USSR and made all these arguments that the Nazi regime was going to win because it possessed strength and vitality. Also democracy and socialism are dying and what will replace all that crap is a "managerial society" based on rule by "managers." That is, business executives, technicians, bureaucrats and soldiers. These people will eliminate the capitalist class, but also crush the working class, and organize society so all power and economic privilege remains in their hands, effectively abolishing private property but not establishing common ownership. Also they will form super-states organized hierarchically and then fight among themselves, but will probably be unable to conquer each other.

That's Nineteen Eighty-Four.

Yeah, anyways. Burnham was an American, but Orwell believed that Burnham was openly expressing the secret wishes of English russophile intellectuals. Those intellectuals would've repudiated Burnham, but they really – according to Orwell – became attracted to the Soviet Union in large numbers once it gone in a totalitarian direction under Stalin. Because in such a society, whether or not that was how the society operated, those intellectuals could imagine themselves being the leaders and ordering everybody around, which they could not in England where they felt cramped by a society in which aristocratic privileges were still strong. Not workers but "middling" people, that is, "they are not managers in the narrow sense, but scientists, technicians, teachers, journalists, broadcasters, bureaucrats, professional politicians."

I see somewhat like George Galloway being like that. He would be Big Brother in Oceania. Because he doesn't actually have any principles at all and does not believe in that egalitarian stuff in socialism, and when he does take an interest in other regimes like Saddam Hussein's dictatorship in Iraq, it's the point when it becomes an open dictatorship and he'll shill for it all day long.

File: 1741671267786.png (1020.36 KB, 2922x2019, Orwell green comp.png)

See >>>/hobby/
This has been stated a million times already. Do you have anything concrete to state that could actually be used against porky-bootlickers? Like pic rel?

File: 1741672270468.png (660.49 KB, 980x986, ClipboardImage.png)

>>2182553
both of those things are signs of fetal alcohol syndrome

>>2183789
gyatt DAMN that post

>>2183807
> both of those things are signs of fetal alcohol syndrome
It's called aging you dumb autistic eugenicist.

>>2183852
how is it "eugenicist" to recognize symptoms of fetal alcohol syndrome, which is not a genetic disease, but a result of the mother drinking while pregnant, which was incredibly common in Orwell's time?

Admittedly I should have looked up young pictures of him.

>>2183726
someone was shilling burnham in the political economy thread >>2135026

basically it was also a guy who said marx was wrong and we should all be "Smithians". straight weirdo. also said lolberts and marxists are both metaphysicians >>2169870

>>2182514
It shouldn't stop us from appropriating him and accuse the fascists of wanting to build a 1984 style police state

>>2182572
Lol true

>>2183863
read the rest of the thread and find out if his dogshit oversimplified narratives are worth appropriating. no. capitalist society has overhyped his writing.


>>2182514
Oh yeah well if he's such a bad person and a bad writer then how come all of my based vaguely anticommunist leftist Content Creators use his terminology as a kind of industry shorthand for their paranoid handwaving of structural probLems huh? Huh? Well OP?

jorjor wel

>>2184227
<Just a reminder, Hayek published 'The Road to Serfdom' in 1944, while '1984' was published in 1949.
<提醒你哈耶克出版通往奴役之路的时候是1944年,而1984是1949年

No forgiveness over being a narc literally sending letters accusing people of being communists, but his hatred for "communists" (Stalin-ComIntern) was 100% justified because they literally sabotaged the Second Spanish Republic. Stalin was directly responsible for killing it when he conspired and assassinated people to consolidate power, and then promptly pulled the rug and abandoned it. Stalin is the individual with the biggest body count of Communists with that shit and the show trials, which MLs unironically force themselves to believe were real, even if the logic is "this bolshevik joined the revolution 30 years ago to destroy it NOW."

>>2184224
What's your obsession with this man? You've spammed like 50 Agent Kochinski clips today alone.

>>2182514
His mythology suited modern leftism perfectly, its basically harry potter radlib edition. Muh autoritarianusm, muh freedoms, report all commies.

Orwell wrote absolutely great books and yes he was a piece of shit

>>2184420
Iirc the Mexican PRI government didn’t have the sectarian issues with supporting arms to the second republic that the USSR did

File: 1741756178109.jpg (74.3 KB, 1137x1439, 2756940.jpg)

>>2185182
>sectarian issues

>>2185190
Now post the Mexican numbers, not to mention they’re the ones who hosted the Republic in exile

>>2185178
>Orwell wrote absolutely great books
they're mid

>>2184221
I have no evidence but I think MI5 promoted his books in exchange for him selling out his socialist contacts

>>2182514
He was just kind of mid and a confused person. His books are overrated but hardly merit the sheer vehemence of his opponents. Overall, I don't really care about him.


Unique IPs: 29

[Return][Go to top] [Catalog] | [Home][Post a Reply]
Delete Post [ ]
[ home / rules / faq ] [ overboard / sfw / alt ] [ leftypol / edu / labor / siberia / latam / hobby / tech / games / anime / music / draw / AKM ] [ meta ] [ wiki / tv / tiktok / twitter / patreon ] [ GET / ref / marx / booru ]