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This isn’t my idea, several other scholars and leaders have been calling attention to this for years, nuclear armed countries have been developing more advanced missile systems for ages, global political relations are balkanizing if not deteriorating as historical grievances remain unresolved (colonialism, imperialism, shock doctrine, trade wars), long range missiles have been deployed and are still in use in the Ukraine war, militarism is growing everywhere, former world powers are growing increasingly fascistic within their own borders as their expansion gets overthrown, artillery bombardments and other WMDs have been seen in use in modern wars more frequently, political leaders are seen openly threatening invasions, the evidence is there.

I’m not here to fearmonger. It’s hard to tell how bad a nuclear war today could be—personally I doubt that many bombs would be thrown past a few to a few dozen throughout the remainder of this century. However, it’s becoming clear to the average person that nukes and total war is a resurging problem this century despite all the efforts made to eradicate violent conflict.

Theres both a mountain of evidence and material reasons to be concerned about the possibility of nuclear war. The sheer number of reasons that contribute to why any war could break out are too vast for me to deal with.

Stay safe and plan ahead y’all. Things are likely going to get tougher.
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>>2188313
>Sober take: nuclear war is coming
Lol no. You're not sober-minded either.
>This isn’t my idea, several other scholars and leaders have been calling attention to this for years,
Yes, way too many damn years with it never happening. If it didn't happen in the 50s-70s it's never going to happen. It only becomes less and less probably, not more.
> nuclear armed countries have been developing more advanced missile systems for ages
Doesn't matter at all because an ICBM warhead payload is impossible to intercept. That's why we're still using the Minutemen IIIs first deployed in 1970. They only recently started talking about replacing them, because there is no point. They do what they need to do which is deliver country ending nuclear warheads and they're still impossible to intercept.
>long range missiles have been deployed and are still in use in the Ukraine war,
So?
>militarism is growing everywhere,
Still nowhere near what it once was.
>artillery bombardments and other WMDs have been seen in use in modern wars more frequently,
That's not a WMD.
>I’m not here to fearmonger.
I believe you are genuinely distressed and panicked about this, but it's bullshit. Nuclear war is never going to happen. If it didn't happen back then it certainly won't happen now.
>Stay safe and plan ahead y’all. Things are likely going to get tougher.
There's nothing to plan for if a nuclear war happens. You're gonna die.

>>2188398
This exact same argument was used to say why Russia would never invade Ukraine on large scale. Turns out security is more important than money for states.

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Caesar's Legion can be pushed left.

>>2189079
I would love a Fallout game where the main conflict is a civil war within Caesar’s legion and that decides the fate of Arizona and Northern Mexico

I heard israel is doing small nuclear strikes these days. Maybe doing tests and ramping up for dropping the big one on Iran?

>>2189159
Do you mean tests there has been no nuclear strikes since 1945

>>2188416
>whose only logical purpose is to destroy the human race
sorry class unconscious radlib, but I'm pretty sure it was only used by a fascist settler state to destroy Japan and turn them into slaves who are so dominated by the satanic empire that they can't even have a small army.
>Accept Dengism (Capitalism without much pretense)
ultraleft anarchism is genocide and enslavement of the third world by nazis without any pretense!

>>2188726
>Yes, way too many damn years with it never happening. If it didn't happen in the 50s-70s it's never going to happen. It only becomes less and less probably, not more
if you flip a coin and it lands on heads 10 times in a row, the chance of getting tails on the 11th flip is still 50%. The more time passes without something happening, it doesn't increase or decrease the likelihood of it happening. but that's for independent events. To think otherwise is called the gambler's fallacy, but Sometimes, the likelihood of an event can increase due to external factors or changes in conditions over time. This could be the case in specific situations like natural processes, human decision-making, or evolving systems where events may become more likely over time. In the case of nuclear war, the probability could decrease due to things like diplomatic agreements, anti-proliferation treaties, etc. But we live in a world where more countries are becoming nuclear-armed, unipolar hegemony is breaking down, regional wars over depleting natural resources are becoming more common, and climate change is destabilizing things as well. So I think since 1991 nuclear war has become gradually more likely, even if, leading up to 1991 as the cold war was winding down, it seemed less likely.

>>2189185
>satanic
Abrahamic spooks

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>>2188448
>All nuclear weapons must be destroyed. All nations must burn and/or be dissolved. Anything less will result in the annihilation of the proletariat.
(intro to the redpilled game Killer7) "July 3rd, 1998, the day that all international disputes were resolved. This day marked the beginning of true peace for the entire world, for people of all races. The four powers quickly formed anti-terrorist organizations, and set out creating peace keeping agencies to bring order and security on a global scale. The world unified to do everything in its power to eradicate all the weeds of evil and disorder.
The International Society, under the motto of protecting the world from international terrorism, ideology terrorism, and cyber terrorism, stopped all air transportation and closed every network station in a short span of two years, to reduce the likelihood of terrorism. The world had changed.
In the year 2002, a network of intercontinental expressways opened, connecting the two major sides of the world. In the following year of 2003, the construction of a mass scale distribution system began, and a man made land mass as large as a city was built over an ocean. The use and research of nuclear energy was banned, and all radioactive waste and materials were disposed of at an energy disposal facility in the Gibsoft islands, a remote set of islands off the coast of the Indian Ocean.
Now, international eyes were on the elimination of the intercontinental missiles that posed the biggest threat to World Peace. In order to eliminate these weapons of mass destruction, they were launched outside the Earth's atmosphere and intercepted by other missiles, exploding them on contact.
People around the world watched these explosions light up the sky, as if they were some kind of dazzling light show. These explosions, later known as "The Missile Shows," became the symbol of World Peace. The world was filled with hope. But a new threat was on the rise…
At the signing ceremony of the UN's world security treaty in the year 2003, terrorists who called themselves "Smiling Faces" attacked the ceremony. The devastating attack caught the International Society by surprise and temporarily crippled key operations in the UN. That assault was aimed at nothing more than using terrorism to create terror.
Fear spread throughout the nations like wildfire. There was nothing the police or the military could do to counter the Smiling Faces. The only ones who had any chance of stopping these Smiling Faces were the omniscient and almost God-like professional assassins. The key players behind the scenes of the four powers utilized their connections and called upon the group known as…Killer 7.
Their only hope, rested with them…"

>>2189191
christianity is just idealist proto communism.

>All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had. With great power the apostles continued to testify to the resurrection of the Lord Jesus. And God’s grace was so powerfully at work in them all that there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need. (Acts 4:32-35)


<All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need. (Acts 2:44-45)

>>2188404
fight for what? is there a more honest alternative?

i'm nuclear i'm wild

>>2188605
Being edgy about nuclear destruction is the mirror image of moralism. It's simply a more insidious form of moralism where the ends justify the means and the ends are some apocalyptical realization of some Ideas like The Absolute End Of Imperialism or The Advent Of The Next Stage.
It's pretty similar to Christian eschatology, especially of evangelical strands.
Meanwhile, nuclear winter would fucking suck for farmers in the material realm, you know, to have food, just saying.

>>2189226
>edgy
you're reducing my argument to an absurd degree. i'm not talking about nuclear war, i'm talking about deterrence. why is the burden of non violence on the powerless? if you were so concerned about that you'd cry loudly instead for the disarmament of current nuclear powers. understand the position of workers in the third world. they can do nothing about the arsenal of the world powers, bu they might be able to something about their own. try talking without buzzwords and address how non nuclear weapons can develop without deterrence from mutually assured destruction keeping USA interventions at bay.

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nuclear war is only worse than regular weapons if they hit large cities. tokyo, new york, los angeles, etc. hitting these dense population centers is not something nations do initially because themtheir enemies can retaliate using the same stuff

disclaimer for israel they'd totally use nukes if an army reaches tel aviv

>>2188326
Song name?

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>>2188453
>Fanom, Stalin

This is why internationalism is so important and why nationalists are dangerous for survival of humanity.

>>2188313
I think it's pretty strightforward to predict that, as long as they exist, they will be used in the future some day.

>>2188726
You’re horribly optimistic and naive when shit like this isn’t even considered unusual.

>>2189272
Running Up That Hill by Meg Myers

Nothing ever happens.

For real now, my real fear is run away AGI that we can't control.

>>2189447
Don’t worry

We’re not going to get “I have no mouth and I must scream.” Unfortunately, we’re going to get something worse. “Forever winter.”

>>2189249
>i'm talking about deterrence
What is your proposed mechanism to make sure "deterrence" remains so? You have to think international for this one, because international law is a fiction.

>>2189249
>understand the position of workers in the third world.
Oh okay, you are a moralist pretending to not be moralist, I hope you are only in your early 20s and enjoy posting quirky takes on twitter or reddit, good luck with the rest of your life.

>>2189295
What in the bananers bloody chickenshit bollocks does this three fingers meme even mean, Hammond?

>>2188313
>fascism is when you mass import non-whites to be criminals, welfare leeches, and deliveroo workers; when you nuke Russia because they are mean to gays and make zionism more difficult

You retards get thrown in jail for protesting Israel, and you're such pussies you blame nazis. Fucking retards

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>>2193200
>believing in race
>being an antisemite but to much of bitch to stand up to israel

The American left beats itself up all the time but its far better being a commie. American nazis are the most spinless and low autism score movement of the modern era. If you werent getting funding from mossad and the CIA you fucks would still be smoking meth and fucking your cousins.

>>2189936
NTA but
there's a scene in the Quentin Tarantino WW2 movie inglourious basterds (2009) where some Brits are pretending to be Germans in a tavern. Their German is impeccable and they're very good at pretending, but one SS officer catches onto them when they order 3 glasses of beer using the pointer, middle, and ring fingers instead of the thumb, pointer, and middle fingers. this leads to a shootout. it's a good scene.

>>2189201
satanic is still abrahamic spooks

>>2188313
Right wing retards will consistently be right wing retards. They think they are right when they are blatantly wrong consistently. They don't work towards anything, the only stuff they have is what has been foolishly given to them.

>>2193200
I hope your mum gets shot by a homeless dude
Anyway
The Nazis shuffled all the “subhumans” they hated all over Europe to do the labor for them
Turns out white supremacists are also lazy untermenschen that can’t fucking work, which is why they need to be forced to work 20 hour shifts and get shot if they don’t want to

No, because there are interception systems that can catch and redirect nuclear missiles to space.

>>2193200
I bet you are a nonwhite chauvinist.
Anyways, most scares about immigrant delinquency are just projecting.
Native born residents do more crime and mooch off the system more.
Non white immigrants are doing heavy duty work for subpar pay.
If anything, their labor is what's fuelling you native nor. Residents lifestyles

>>2188313

This is actually an irrational take. As long as there is second strike capability, the game theoretical outcome is that no one ever uses nuclear weapons (though those that can will build them for detterence).

I am much more worried about other forms of conflict.

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>more petit-bourgeois anxiety about the future

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>>2188653
>>2188660

It is strange that marxism-leninism of the Stalin era has been lumped together with the variety of revisionisms that followed (whether khruschevite or dengist).

Posting this key book once again for reference.

nukes are a paper tiger that'll have a deterrent made against them (that is if there isnt one already) just like any other wunderwaffen throughout history

>>2188649

The problem is the sentimentality. First worldists often are people who have genuinely shitty lives, or are around people who do. This is a charitable interpretation (often times its not even this do much as basic relative attachment to their immediate surroundings, which everyone has, but goes unacknowledged or even denied by the ardent first worldist).

However this sentiment leads them to make mistaken conclusions about exploitation, unequal exchange, etc. and the objective material conditions for revolution (namely that the latter are either equally likely in the first and third world; Or that if it is more likely in the third world, its mot radically so; Or if it radically so, it still makes sense to dedicate relatively more resources to first world organizations).

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good movie

>>2196458

The deterrent to nuclear weapons does indeed already exist: Its nuclear weapons.

How much head trauma do you have to incur before you start fantasizing about nuclear war?

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>>2188313
Comrade, this is good News for any Real Communist, as Dialectical Materialism proves that Global Nuclear War is the most Historically Progressive form of Warfare as it will destroy the entire Global Capitalist-Imperialist System and allow for a World Maoist PPW (in both the Periphery/Semi-Periphery and Imperial Core due to the Worldwide collapse of the Security-Intelligence Infrastructure) to create a Global USSR (the Map I posted shows all the SSRs and SFSRs of the Future Global USSR, with the caveat that Sub-Saharan Africa would incorporate many more SSRs then shown here, as l lumped them all into one Giant Black African SFSR due to the fact that I don’t know enough about the Ethno-Linguistic demographics of Sub-Saharan Africa, but I will do some In-depth research on this subject and will be making a new version of this map in the next couple months that will fix this, 😂🤣✊😜!) that will place the Workers and Oppressed Nations of the World on the Shining Path to Communism, ✊😜🇨🇳🇰🇵🇨🇺🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️🚀☢️!

>>2196487
god you are insufferable

global nuclear war is progressive apparently

dumbass

>>2196610
Read Mao https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/selected-works/volume-5/mswv5_40.htm
If nuclear war was of bourgeoise interest it would have happen

>>2188313
ok but why did you post a pic of ludwig feuerbach

>>2194031
The joke throughout this scene is that his German is horrible and he has an obvious English accent. The finger thing wasn't real lol.


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