/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

You sound rather spooked.

Very spooky post, I thought Halloween was months ago.

I believe in objective morality. The world outside may appear to contradict it but that's okay because I know am right thanks to my faith.

I love being a good optimistic and kind person. If everyone was like me the world would be perfect! Unfortunately there are too many evil people in this world…

>>2190099
What about magnets

>>2190129
How do they work

I posted this is in Siberia but I feel it's relevant
People generally do what they can get away with. I believe life is pretty much about fucking and pro creating and everything we do is generally about getting those things. While I don't do those things I think it's largely because I've been an incompetent and timid person not because I'm that different. At least that's what I believe

>>2190128
Evil? No. They just have ideas that differ from yours and you perceive their actions as evil because of it. Either that, or you just see the masses of impulsive followers and leaders as uncivilized and mean for failing to discipline themselves.

According the to laws of physics, monopolar magnets must exist, just as much so as dipoles. And yet we as a species have never found any evidence for single magnetic monopole.
So is it spooked to believe in monopoles since we lack any physical evidence? Or spooked to deny them since the math points to them being real even though we have never found them?
Because you lack perfect certainty in regards to the existence of a concept (in this case magnetic monopoles), it cannot be dismissed as either materially real or non-real due to a lack of evidence, and therefore it becomes impossible to label it as a spook with certainty.
You can extrapolate this principle to all objects and concepts that we lack 100% certainty of the material presence of, and to all conceptual things too.
Therefore, from a materialist position, anything that you cannot be certain exists or doesn't exist cannot be something you call a spook.
And to add to that - for anything you will label a spook, you must necessarily provide proof of its non-existence.
But it is impossible to prove the non-existence of something, as is well known. In which case it becomes impossible to call anything at all a spook.
Therefore, magnets prove that the concept of the spook is in fact itself the only spook at all. Spooks are not real.

That's my original thoughts on the matter anyway.

This is pretty much all objective morality you are going to need.

Good = caring about the potential = strictly unbounded in time
Evil = caring about what is currently active = strictly bounded in time

Law = caring about everyone = strictly unbounded in space
Chaos = caring only about yourself = strictly bounded in space

Btw "Neutral Good" is techno-communism.

>>2190160
With thoughts like those, you really shouldn't bother thinking much.

>>2190189
grim

>>2190189
So a contrived layer of abstraction for no benifit, at the cost of making people interpret what is said through vibes and social queues.

Basically me, yeah

Yeah. I don’t believe in objective morality, god, miracles, magic, pseudoscience, immortality, reanimation, ghosts, souls, alchemy, aliens, and any other self affirming delusional shit unenlightened believers believe in. My values are ends justify means, materialism, and collectivism.

>>2190700
collectivism is a spook

>>2190701
Not collectivism as some ideal, but as a survival strategy based on historical success.

^
the correct answer was "justification is a spook"

>>2190704
you are valuing survival as and end in itself
therefore, spook

>>2190710
Not at all, I value collective survival out of self-interest.

>>2190099
1. egoists aren't actually real, they're the leftypol version of the edgy 4chan nazi larping as an ideology they want to try out because they're anonymous
2. literally when was the last time you saw a fucking *egoist* post that was unironic
3. shut up they're hilarious

>>2190099

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/max-stirner-the-unique-and-its-property

Go read instead of being a stupid uyghur like Marx, for whom was triggered all because he was too Low autism score unironically to understand the genius of Maximus Stirnerius

>>2190099
>ghosts
A Chinese philosopher disproved the existence of ghosts 2000 years ago.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Chong
https://iep.utm.edu/wangchon/#SSH4bi

>Argument from population: If people become ghosts when they die, there should be more ghost sightings than living people, as the number of people who have lived in the past and died is far greater than the number of people now living. This is not true — ghost “sightings” are rare. Thus it cannot be that people when they die become ghosts.

>Argument from ghostly efficacy: If a living person is harmed, this person will immediately go to a magistrate and bring a case against the party who harmed them. If it were the case that people become ghosts when they die and can interact with living humans, every ghostly murder victim would be seen going to a magistrate, telling him the name of the killer and the means of murder, leading him to the body, and so forth. This is never witnessed (ever).

>>2190148
>Evil? No.
Evil exists, don't be obtuse.

>>2192164
Well, from my point of view, the Jedi are evil

>>2190099
>objective morality, god, miracles, magic, pseudoscience, optimism, immortality, physical regeneration, reanimation, ghosts, souls, alchemy, aliens
Spooks.
>might is right
>cynicism
Also spooks.

if morals arent real then whats preventing people from being bad if there are no laws

>>2192221
You’re thinking as if people follow social laws or even know what they are and don’t break them all the time.

>>2192222
okay bucko.
show me people eating babies.

>>2192223
I could and I won’t.

>>2192227
fair enough

>>2192221
>>2192231
Power and will. If you don't have the power you don't have the will and vice versa

>>2192233
you cant deceive me, this is performance art
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fetus-feast/
you have been DEBUNKED

>>2192231
>whats stopping people from being immoral? lol, lmao even.

Cost/benefit analysis. Sure I could go and loot my neighbors house but if I get caught the social cost could mean death, losing my shit, or imprisonment. Society is just a giant prisions dilemma.

>>2192231
the natural affinity of man towards goodness, kindness and love.

>>2190099
>Yeah, I don’t believe in objective morality, god, miracles, magic, pseudoscience, optimism, immortality, physical regeneration, reanimation, ghosts, souls, alchemy, aliens
And? Excluding physical regeneration, they're not real, and if they are, I've seen zero convincing evidence.

>My values are might is right, materialism, and cynicism.
I don't have "values", because that would imply a "subjective morality", which is just as stupid as a notion as a "subjective purpose". No, I know what is real, I know what is possible, and I know what I want; what I pursue is the intersection of these three things.

>I’m so fucking cool, edgy, and mature unlike the rest of those stupid hordes. Look at how cool, edgy, and mature I am.
I don't think I'm cool, edgy, or mature, I think other people are dribbling fucking retards. It doesn't make me feel superior, it makes me feel alone.

>>2192252
>I don't think I'm cool, edgy, or mature, I think other people are dribbling fucking retards. It doesn't make me feel superior, it makes me feel alone.
this anon lacks self awareness

>>2192253
I don't view myself as le epic Rick Sanchez Patrick Bateman Joker, I view myself as Some Dude. I don't want to feel like everyone else sucks shit, I just want to live my life without a fuss. If I got a real life magical genie, the first wish I'd make is for everyone else to be more like me.

>>2192261
but you totally don't think you are superior tho. lmfao

>>2192261
>>2192252
You feel alone? Guess what, you’ll always be alone. No one will ever fully understand your feelings and emotions and no one has to. Your opinions and feelings do not matter anyways especially if you do not physically express them to change anything in the real world.

Also I agree with that other guy. You definitely feel like you’re more aware of how the universe functions much better than most of the people around you. I do too, and I would prefer for people to lower their expectations about life more often to avoid constantly disappointing themselves or coming unprepared to real challenges people face—like relationships, work, education, traumatic events, ineqaulity, financial difficulties, goals unmet that kind of stuff.

>>2192276
if you look at the median american and decide "yeah, this person has about as much going on upstairs as I do", you are a mouthbreather
not that they're genetically inferior or whatever other nazi shit, just the state of public education in the first world
I don't despise them, I want to protect and liberate them, but I am unquestionably their superior

>>2190099
Human language is a spook, ook, eek, eeek!

>>2192172
ok schizo

I don't think Striner was serious when writing about 'spooks' his his logic the very concept of spooks can be a spook