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The days of social security are numbered. Without it, there is no dignity in old age. Having to live off handouts is worse than death. Working hours will increase significantly. They may not be the 120 hours that Elon Musk wants (initially), but people will not work less than 60 hours after 2027.

Climate change is happening faster than expected. Climate instability is having a major impact on agriculture. Any country whose food production is affected will need to import more. Therefore, producing countries like ours will export more and domestic prices will increase. In other words, any country that enters a food crisis will cause food prices in the US to increase.

The idea of ​​a multipolar world is stillborn. BRICS is a thing of the past. It only has Russia and China. We will be increasingly subjugated by the US, with accelerated deindustrialization. Labor laws will adapt to favor slave labor on farms. Fascism will reign supreme throughout the world, and the media and surveillance and espionage technologies will easily crush any movement that opposes the status quo.

I say that people are optimistic because they put puppets in the world, which means that they have complete confidence in the future, and believe that their children will have better lives than they did. My question is where this optimism comes from. Can anyone explain?

>>2196291
Climate change is not a problem. If it becomes a problem the Chinese will bail us out with some sort of geoengineering scheme.(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

>omg im so smart for being a depressed whiny asshole
k

>>2196295
This. China is literally going to build a solar energy harvester in space that can supply the entire earth with free clean energy.

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even if you think the future is miserable you still be optimistic because in the future your suffering will finally end

>Why do people seem so optimistic about the future?
Where the fuck do you live? Boomersville USA, capital Trump country?
Those are the only idiots too up their own asses to think anything is gonna go good these days, everyone else is very much aware by 2050 there is a 50% chance of another world war, or another great depression.

>>2196291
It's inertia. We are sliding down to a dark age. And I mean the historical definition. I bet my grandson in 2070 won't learn how to read.

I don't remember if it was Marx or Lenin who said that the middle-class was defined by anxiety while the proletariat was defined by passion. Well, this thread is a good example of that.

>>2196291
Climate change is a burgoise invention to keep the 3rd world weak. Read a book.(Rule 12 - low-quality reactionary content)

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>>2196291
A real doomer socialist fills the void with nationalism lessss gooooo


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>>2196291
LLM post
>LE LEFTIST UNITY
>LE REFORM
>LASSALLE, STALIN, MAO, ANARCHY
>MUH CLIMATE CHANGE, LONG LIVE ECOTERRORISM
>MUSK
Buzzword after buzzword after buzzword after buzzword after buzzword after buzzword after buzzword after buzzword after buzzword after buzzword and you put a shitty wojak on it and you put a shitty fucking raised fist on the other shitpost with reddit spacing every sentence.

>>2196536
It's called paragraphs

>>2196548
Variant

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>>2196536
>reddit spacing
you are a faggot and also a poltard that needs to go back

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>>2196536
>discord timing
you are a straggot and also a poldexter that needs to stay here

>>2197540
I cant believe Karltural Marx would use le paragraphs…Comrade Xi would never deviate from giant blocks of text with greentext arguments and orangetext counterarguments

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>>2197540
>Pic
No, that's a digital rendition. He wrote like this.

>>2197547
He didn't don't worry, OP is still a libtarded faggot.

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Leftybrooos

>>2197581
Deutsche Democratik Dancing Republik

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>BRICS is a thing of the past. It only has Russia and China.
<it only has a supermajority of the world's population and GDP!! IT'S SO OVER!!!
fucking imbecile
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1412425/gdp-ppp-share-world-gdp-g7-brics/

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>>2196295
>china is obligated to do all the work while america blames them for climate change and tries to start WW3 with them

>>2197634
least wordy leftist meme

>>2196295
>>2196305
>>2197686
>t. Future environmental storytelling skeletons of the wasteland
>>2196291
>The days of social security are numbered
An inevitability, and also a sign of decay and weakening integrity of the capitalist system and liberalism.
>Climate change is happening faster than expected
The actual red alert issue. But the bell has yet to be rung truly for this world.
>The idea of ​​a multipolar world is stillborn
No one with a valid opinion cares. Multipolarity was never a serious end goal for any respectable communist anyways.

>>2196291
Read The Hedonistic Imperative. Technology could eventually allow for suffering to be eradicated entirely.

https://www.hedweb.com/

>>2196291
>The days of social security are numbered.
yeah it's bleak for honkoids but it's a very encouraging climate for third worldists

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>>2196536
What do expect from westoid lefty kabuki? Its all performative.

>>2197879
they're just pulling the copper out of the walls and after they're done they'll burn the house down. what's there to be glad about?

1950s-1970s Deindustrialization -→ 1980s-2010s imperialism fueled era of prosperity -→ BRICSs led deconstrucion of the western imperial system (You are here) -→ Western capitalists attempt to reindustrialize -→ Back to essentially the 1900s where capitalism was in crisis -→ Communism

>>2197938

1950s-1970s Deindustrialization -→ 1980s-2010s imperialism fueled era of prosperity -→ BRICSs led deconstrucion of the western imperial system (You are here) -→ Western capitalists attempt to reindustrialize -→ Back to essentially the 1900s where capitalism was in crisis -→ comm……world wide economic system starts collapsing due to climate change and ecological overshoot -→ WW3, resource wars, famines, environmental disasters, etc cause the system to fail
-→ society finally collapses -→ primitive communism returns or humanity is extinct

Doomerism is for losers. Any lock can be broken.

>>2197942
Yeah this is it

>>2197873
But without pain, fun can't exist. Have they considered the hedonic treadmill effect? What these guys want, is to lobotomize everybody. It would be the same: No suffering, but also no fun.

>>2198147
I can live with that

>>2198147
Yeah maybe we shouldn't have invented painkillers, after all the lack of suffering means the lack of fun ←———- STATEMENT FROM INTERNET POISONED BRAINDEAD PSEUDS

>>2197942
Nah this is western chauvinism. Your essentially saying that without Western Hegemony the world will end because that for some reason will be a bad thing. Stop being an idealist, the countries of most advanced capitalism will transition to communism this is an immutable scientific fact. What has happened before will happen again and the world will turn. Suggesting otherwise is you basically being omnicidal and wishing for human extermination just because you can't handle the West being on top anymore.

>>2198190
*not being on top anymore

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>>2198190
>the countries of most advanced capitalism will transition to communism this is an immutable scientific fact.

>>2198202
>What is Historical Materialism
>What is Marxism
>What is Tribalism
>What is Feudalism
>What is Capitalism

huh almost looks like a pattern, maybe you should read more.

>>2198190
my uygha, im saying western hegemony has so fucked this planet that theres no hope anymore. If this process happened back in the 1950s or 1900s than I would be hopeful. But right now we are in the most hellish climate, ecological and overall environmental crisis. Right now it may be too late.

>>2198202
No that is literally Marx's whole thing. Are you new here?

>>2198147
Pain itself is often an obstacle to fun and progress.

>>2198211
>>2198216
I think the last 150 years have demonstrated that it's not that easy

>>2198213
Climate doomer Malthusian nonsense. Western hegemony is dying and giving way to multipolarity, you’re just butthurt about it

>>2198237
>Climate doomer Malthusian nonsense.
Correct
>Western hegemony is dying
Correct
>giving way to multipolarity
Incorrect

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>>2198237
the plants are absorbing less co2
the seas are absorbing less heat
Micro plastics are everywhere now, including your brain
World ecosystems have been dying. Theres been mass death of plants and animal species
methane is now leaking from Antarctica (potentially causing a clathrate gun effect)
clouds cover has been decreasing allowing more light and heat to enter the earth
Reflective ice has been melting causing more heat to enter the earth.
THe climate is accelerating. Its getting worse. The temperature has been going up faster and fASTER

Communism represents hope for the working class, and the knowledge that our victory over the ruling class is inevitable. This is why nihilism is incompatible with Marxism

>>2198287
>our victory over the ruling class is inevitable.
It isn't though, you gotta work for it. The ruling class of today are way more suicidal than the ruling class of the 19th century. They'd sooner make this planet uninhabitable than give up power to the workers.


>>2198147
These kind of replies are exactly the same sentiment that people feel. And it's part of the problem.
This constant seeking of validation/meaning of life through suffering/drama.

I'd rather have a boring life.

>>2198279
>>2198213
>>2198237
I'm not sure about how true this is.
I believe the global pollution.
But we humans burned a lot of fossil fuels back in the previous five centuries.
Climate change isn't instant.

The left has been calling rightiods and zoomer men in general conformists. I am not very optimistic about the west but I think westoid leftoids in general are getting more cunning. IDK about the rest of the world, I assume they are doin alright for themselves.

>>2196291
>climate anxiety
My dear summer child. You haven't heard of our leader and savior J. Posadas?

People aren't optimistic about the future.
All they do is whine about woke and red pill shit.
Alot of our current year problems are due to culture wars

"Fascism" is an overused slur for any sociopolitical disagreement, as is "communism".

Also, most old people who have social security still are living in shambles.

Also, we had actual slave labor in the past.
Unless if you're referring to actual poverty areas.

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>The days of social security are numbered.
Wrong. Social sekkkurity is necessary to sustain surplus-population to sustain capitalism by keeping eldery proletarians alive and working, subsidizing bourgeois retirement. Social SeKKKurity is but capitalist tricKKKnology, like overtime, to sustain extreme torment of proletarians. Lifespan of labor-power dwindles past 40 hours per week which brings up cost to sustain it. Social SeKKKurity is same concept but on lifespan scale rather than weekly.
>They may not be the 120 hours that Elon Musk wants (initially), but people will not work less than 60 hours after 2027.
Fake news and reactionary fear mongering. Consult graph. Working hours decreasing due to development of crisis of capital and the disintigration of BidenomiKKK mode of production.

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>>2196291
Shut the fuck up retard.

>>2198533
This
Everyone thinks they're the only ones seeing the bullshit and everyone else is sheeple.
It's kinda arrogant

>>2198534
I mean, everyone "sees" the bullshit but no one does anything about it. I can't think of any empire in history more cucked than the US. Romans would've killed like 5 emperors by now.

>>2198536
>but no one does anything about it
<hurr labor organizing does not exist if I don't see it
Get out of your suburban bubble you stupid dipshit.

>>2198506
the retardedly zoomed in graph you posted illustrates nothing at all, maybe have a look at the Y axis labels? there is less than a 5% difference between the top and the bottom… the entire thing falls within the margin of error, if the Y axis included 0 (like non-propaganda graphs do) the movements would be invisible

>>2198538
Has labor organizing actually done anything in the last 30 years? Getting a bunch of people together in a room to jerk eachother off isn't as productive as you seem to imply.

>>2198540
Labor organizing has never done anything.

ARMY organizing has.

>>2198536
>mean, everyone "sees" the bullshit but no one does anything about it.
No one want to die to just put a strong man socdem in power who will fall to neolibs in a few decades.

>>2198548
How is that different from any other point in history? Whats different about 21st century Americans compared to 20th century Russians or Chinese? Why are Americans such cowards?

>>2198539
>The retardedly zoomed-in graph you posted illustrates nothing at all.
Wrong. The graph is clear and appropriately scaled. The purpose is to display meaningful fluctuation in working hours. Claiming it "illustrates nothing" demonstrates you don’t understand anything. This not kindergarten bar chart. This is precise economic indicator tracking material conditions of last 20 years. From 2008, through bidenomiKKK, to last month.
>Maybe have a look at the Y-axis labels? There is less than a 5% difference between the top and the bottom.
Cope. 5% reduction in average weekly hours across 1.6 hectomillion proletarians is catastrophic. 5% decrease means a loss of aggregate labor hours equivalent to 8 million full-time jobs.
>The entire thing falls within the margin of error.
Wrong again award. I bring gold standard in economic data. This enormous sample size with minuscule margins of error. Relative Standard Error is 0.1%.
https://www.bls.gov/web/empsit/cesvarae.htm
>If the Y-axis included 0 (like non-propaganda graphs do) the movements would be invisible.
Pure economic retardation. Zero on the Y-axis would be nonsense. Are you suggesting workers regularly clock zero hours? Current scale is deliberate design to show meaningful variation. Is thermometer fake because it doesn't start at absolute zero???

Face reality and stop coping, demoKKKrat. The crisis won’t stop just because you deny it.

>>2198158
We have replaced one kind of pain with another. We have painkillers for physical pain, but depression is rising. We will invent super effective antideressants, but you know what will happen then? New pain will arise. There will always be pain, as long there is fun.

>>2198536
America is just like most empires of the past.
Most overthrow of emperors are often inside jobs

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>>2196295
>>2196495
Wtf i love mods now

>>2198551
Americans aren't dying of hunger, retard. Nobody is willing to die in a bloody revolution if the situation is bearable.

>>2198758
And that’s the problem. For the first time in history the revolution must begin based on reason and not need. Global warming isn’t gonna wait for people to go hungry. And tbh I’m sure lots of average people are willing to die for the revolution. Life is mundane and empty
>>2196291
I feel related to the picture tbh
>>2197942
I feel this is the most likely outcome. I think most intellectuals and scientists agree

>>2198758
>Americans aren't dying of hunger
There actually are, but I doubt you touch enough grass to actually know where to look
>>2198551
You idiots keep getting reminded time every time that the reason why there hasn’t been as much revolutionary activity in the United States as there should be is because of the fucking weaponized road system used against the proletariat. And everytime, you fucking idiots decide to play the blame game and insult the the American proletariat instead of listening and paying attention to the addressed problems laid before you. You have been at this for years. You have gotten no where. All you did this entire time was insult the American, and make no progress. I am fucking sick of it. Either help develop some goddamn solutions, or just shut up. At this point, your silence is more valuable than your inputs.

>>2199091
What’s the road system?

>>2199099
United States Numbered Highway System in combination with grid street plans and car dependency.

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>>2199091
>You idiots keep getting reminded time every time that the reason why there hasn’t been as much revolutionary activity in the United States as there should be is because of the fucking weaponized road system used against the proletariat.

Big Paul vindicated once again

>>2199091
>insult the the American proletariat
I wont insult proletariat since its keeped away from forming any class concious, with active help of the same people who claiming youself as their left thinkers and leaders. As i wont insult current russian or european prols. But question is legit - amerikkka is the country with most weapons per capita, easy access to any knowledge and gear imaginable for organized groups, transportation. Your road system is as advantageous for transportation and militias operations as for porky national guard to squash them.

Yes, amerikkka (and west yrope) is on top of the worlds economic value extraction system they created and guarded by their soft power and biggest MIC on the planet. Yes, this is exact reason why despite having prolific proles movement 19th cen england doesnt have any revolutions, because ruling class was able to spend a little more on gibs of somewhat welfare and shared homeland wealth for locals, making the basically firstoid workers - working aristocracy, revolting against the system for its dismantling threatens their position. The biggest drive for class conciousness is total crisis and war, thats why for massive nations as Russian and German Empire, or post colonial China - revolution was the only solution.

>>2199082
That is why we need to increase global warming, only in struggle people can see their chain. Shit is going to happen sooner or later, why shouldn't we speed up the process?
>>2199091
Retard.

>>2196291
>Why do people seem so optimistic about the future?
by people you mean rightoids?

>>2198533
The problem is not understanding. The problem believing it can be different

>>2199256
>the middle-class, the class defined by anxiety, is "optimistic"
Retarded?

>>2199471
>muh ideas
Anyone whining about this shit is 100% divorced from remotely any proletarian activity.

>>2199137
>But question is legit - amerikkka is the country with most weapons per capita, easy access to any knowledge and gear imaginable for organized groups and, transportation
I come back to see this nonsense. Most certainly. However, a good swath of those weapons are resting in some gun nuts lair. Most people don’t own guns here.
>easy access to any knowledge
More like easy access to the internet. Not necessarily easy access to information you may need. And the information to get the information you need costs extra.
>gear imaginable for organized groups
This costs money. And connections. Many Americans have neither. Most militias are upper crust for a reason.
>transportation
Hahahahaha no
>Your road system is as advantageous for transportation and militias operations as for porky national guard to squash them
Sure, if you can get the ball running, which is both very expensive and an uphill battle.
>Yes, amerikkka (and west yrope) is on top of the worlds economic value extraction system they created and guarded by their soft power and biggest MIC on the planet
They WERE so high in their league that they raped the lands of the imperial core without having their flag be seen as a hate symbol. In more recent years however, I think they slacked in terms of soft power, and now they’re dealing with the consequences of that.
>>2199208
Cool response

>>2199473
what is this mythic proletarian activity? Most of the popu;ation doesn't know what is happening nor understand how capitalism permates their life. Even though they complain, they only seek to escape to a better place with a "better government' rather than doing something about it.

Unions are scarce and few

>>2199521
also all ameriKKKan unions are explicitly anti-communist in nature.

the AFL-CIA in particular have long collaborated with the state to root out potential leftists both at home and abroad. they are partially responsible for the deaths of millions and were all but openly working with the CIA to ratfuck unions in other countries.


the fact is simple, and i think all you little waffentwerps can see it deep down in your schutzstaffel-black hearts. america MUST be destroyed. it cannot be reformed. it cannot be saved. it can only be confronted and destroyed with the absolute maximum possible level of prejudice. only after america has been destroyed can we even think of building something new.

>>2199521
>Most of the popu;ation doesn't know what is happening nor understand how capitalism permates their life
I heavily doubt you’ve ever seen the average American before, much less met one.
>Even though they complain, they only seek to escape to a better place with a "better government' rather than doing something about it
You speak of upper class liberals with money for travel
>>2199532
>unions are explicitly anti-communist in nature
We noticed
>america MUST be destroyed
Say something new

>>2199208
>>2199082
All this talk about wanting a revolution. Are you sure you know what you're really asking for?

>>2199706
Then what do you want? More reforms? Stopping global warming through reforms like Green New Deal looks impossible.

>>2199521
>>2199532
>if I don't see trade unions, they don't exist!
Dipshits here not only are retarded, they're proud of it too. Not even going to touch on the typical leftoid garbage about America being some "special evil".

People who think as though unions are some bourgeois psyop to pacify proletarians into petit-bourgeois marginal gains from the state have clearly never participated in any, nor engaged in a factory committee, strike committee, etc.

<Am I missing something?

Scientific studies suggest that depressed individuals may perceive reality differently from non-depressed individuals, sometimes in a way that appears more "realistic" in certain aspects. This phenomenon is known as "depressive realism."

Key Findings from Studies on Depressive Realism:

1. More Accurate Judgments of Control

Studies have shown that non-depressed individuals often exhibit an optimistic bias, overestimating their level of control over events.

Depressed individuals, on the other hand, tend to more accurately assess their control over external outcomes, particularly in experiments where participants press a button that may or may not influence a light turning on (e.g., Alloy & Abramson, 1979).

2. Less Susceptibility to Positive Illusions

Healthy individuals often maintain unrealistic optimism, believing they are less likely to experience negative events than others.

Depressed individuals tend to have a more accurate risk assessment and a less biased self-view.

3. More Realistic Social Perception?

Some research suggests that depressed individuals may be less prone to self-serving biases, meaning they don’t overestimate their abilities or social desirability as much as non-depressed individuals do.

However, this realism is mostly seen in mild to moderate depression; in severe depression, pessimistic distortions can become extreme and no longer realistic.

Limitations and Criticism of Depressive Realism

While depressed individuals may be more realistic in some situations, they also tend to overestimate negative outcomes and underestimate positive possibilities, leading to cognitive distortions rather than true realism.

Some studies suggest that depressive realism only appears under specific conditions and may not be as robust as originally thought.

Conclusion

Depressed individuals might be more accurate in assessing control and predicting negative events, but this doesn't necessarily mean they have a "truer" view of reality overall. Instead, their perspective may lack the beneficial optimistic biases that help non-depressed people function and stay motivated.

>>2196307
normies are retards who unironically think theyre gonna get rich from gambling/AI/streaming/[insert whatever new scam STEMfags came up with here]
they genuinely dont understand that society as we know it will be over in the mext 2 decades at most. why do you think theyre still having children?

>>2199969
africans, south asians, southeast asians get paid like 5 dollars a day to dig ditches all day in barefeet. meanwhile amerilards get to take hot showers every morning, drive around in their heated/AC'd pickup trucks and suvs, watch netflix on their big screen tvs and screw around on tinder. first worlders still have no idea how much they take for granted

>>2199973
that firstie lifestyle is not sustainable and will end because of climate change
even as thirdoids we live a relatively comfy life (depending on ur country) that wont exist in the future. we'll all become refugees and get gunned down by border patrol

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case in point, if you think our current lifestyle is achievable in a world like pic related , you are delusional

>>2199973
>africans, south asians, southeast asians get paid like 5 dollars a day to dig ditches all day in barefeet.
No way this is the most complex marxist analysis of the world you can make

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>>2199973
>meanwhile amerilards get to take hot showers every morning,
I will remember to check my water heater privilege in the future
>drive around in their heated/AC'd pickup trucks and suvs,
Are you serious? Heaters and A/C are a matter of life and death depending on the location. Especially A/C because there is no clothing that can keep you cool. Some thirdies get to live in perfect year round weather. I'd rather live in perfect year round weather and no A/C vs live in the South with the A/C but alas I am bound by circumstance.

>>2196291
>>2199980
I've posted about it in other climate doomer threads, and it's not my original idea, but the key to survival is to move to high elevation places. They're naturally temperate to cool. Some of them are perfectly temperate like Addis:
>>2199995
It only fluctuates from the high 70fs to the low 70s.(25c to low 20c)

>>2199995
>I'd rather live in perfect year round weather and no A/C vs live in the South with the A/C but alas I am bound by circumstance.
lol you dont know what its like to take a bus filled with people in a scorching tropical climate
we dont even have fans in our buses here

>>2200005
Yeah that sounds pretty rancid. Latin America was a mistake. I do know what it's like to work all day in the sun in 104f/40c weather, where the humidity is 70% and the heat index is like 110f. It's fucking hell. I hate hot humid weather. The air just feels so thick. It's also terrible for your health. Heat fries your brain.

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>>2200019
>Ah yes because nobody ever lived in tropical
They cope by literally doing nothing all day.

>or mountainous climates

Did you read what I said you fucking retard? I said mountainous climates are the most temperate places on Earth.

>>2200022
<lmgtfy because I know you all won't and none of you have ever heard of anything.
>Similar midday nap breaks are common around the Mediterranean and in many Latin American countries, where the midday is often hot. Before air conditioning existed, the siesta offered a much-needed break from the hottest hours of the day.
https://sleepdoctor.com/circadian-rhythm/siestas


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