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Ffs, 1.39 million gone and that was the number confirmed by the CPC’s bureau for statistics…

Even in the optimistic case where the death toll remains flat, the country is going to lose over hundred and four million people by the end of century. Already entire villages and streets within the big cities are emptying out and the population loss is too large for immigration from anywhere to repair the damage.

You can tell me all you want about this not being too bad, but this level of death is going to cause supply chain and social shocks that will lead to excess deaths and arbitrary stress among the survivors.

>>2196746
So? Every developed nation is experiencing decreasing birthrates

>>2196746
Fewer people = more available resources = more room for growth = more people = less available resources = less room for growth = fewer people
That is the natural way of things and any system that fights against this will fail.
We should not push for unsustainable population growth nor should we engage in depopulation.

>>2196748
Did your get the sterilization crisis that happened during the pandemic? It’s not just that chinas population is falling, but that it’s falling prematurely due to disease, and that it’s causing excessive and arbitrary losses in numbers. The situation there isn’t something to dismiss, especially since the decline’s effects can and will spread to neighbouring countries given how large china is.

>>2196750
Given how much wealth is overproduced, I can comfortably say that you’re full of shit and that absolutely nothing will change in terms of the cost of living.

>>2196752
You realize that you could say the exact opposite, right? A massive increase in population has not improved the cost of living.

>>2196755
Yeah, now explain why the cost of living (especially housing) fucking skyrocketed when the country’s population was plateauing while experiencing a massive boom in its housing supply. I hope you’re not one of the retards that believes in supply and demand. There’s absolutely no justification for scarcity of any critical need

>>2196746
>>2196751
Let me tell you where you can shove your western propaganda. The Chinese century is here and there's nothing you westerners can do about it.

>muh treats

>>2196778
Tone deafness

Motherfucker were not here to stroke your ego. There’s a problem and I care more for china than your bootlicking ass ever will. These people are facing an existential problem brought prematurely and it’s becoming hard to ignore

I kind of wish it population start decreasing in the united states even though it would be terrible. Maybe it'll start this year

git gud @ fuckin lmao

>HAVE SEX HAVE SEX HAVE SEX WITH MEEEEEEE
No.

>>2196782
>china is collapsing and i care about china more than you how dare you deny this horrible situation
this angle is not new and you're not clever

>>2196751
idk I had a kid after covid must not be that bad

>>2196746
If it becomes a problem they'll just open the floodgates to immigration.

>>2196748
>Every developed capitalist nation is experiencing decreasing birthrates
ftfy

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>>2196832
Dude even if they did (they did btw) it wouldn’t be anywhere near enough to stave off the decline. They’re losing 1.39 million per year. Immigration isn’t going to recover the losses or even delay the decline at ALL.

>>2196746
Shouldn't you be making another New Vegas slop thread or maybe a Blame! thread? Is this your new obsession, because its the second China population thread you have made 😂

Sex is reactionary.

Population/TFR collapse is only an issue because of pensions and the age balance. It's not the apocalypse humanity ending scenario pro-natalists hype it up to be.
Worst case is old people will die in not-so-great conditions but against lots of people do and did not that long ago.

>the damage
cringe Chinese nu-metal bands: (whining and moaning)

>>2196750
So are boom/bust cycles inevitable then? Or is it just poor planning

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>>2196755
Why can't both be true? Resources are being wasted and hoarded by capitalists, and the world does not need 10 gorillion people. The less people on the planet the easier it is to manage waste, and as modern education and economic prosperity increase the population tends declines towards a more sustainable equilibrium; so no, breedtards, population shrinkage doesn't imply having a genocide.

Ehhhh, American Chinese are going back soon, anyway.

>streets within the big cities are emptying out
Quick question for OP: If I remove a million from a billion, what percentage is that?

>>2196746
China's fertility rate is among the 10 lowest in the world, at only 1.0 as confirmed by it's bureau of statistics. Better to let, the tards on here, shit on their diapers, as they process that info, before explaining what terrible consequences it will have in 10-20 years. China isn't "le bad" its "le f*ked". (Danger : wailing children below)

>>2197093
A thousandth lost in a single fucking year stupid ass fuck.

>>2197092
There are no where near enough diasporas to replenish whatever the hell was lost and is being lost.

>>2197096
Do you actually believe you would be able to notice a 0.1 % population change in your city without recourse to statistics, just by walking around?
<ZERO POINT ONE EHMARGERD THE CITY IS EMPTY

>>2197095
Oh nooo its all over

I remember articles in the 2000s talking about how Japan’s population will half by 2020 🤣
I remember early 2010s right wing propaganda movies talking about how Europe will be 30% Muslim by 2020 🤣

>>2196835
Capitalism is when development, retard.
Feudalism -> Capitalism

Sorry, but the Chinese prole pulls out.
Did you know that China installed more industrial robots in 2024 than the rest of the world combined?

>>2197035
Boom and bust cycles are poor planning, yes. Ideally you'd have a system that can adapt to surges or reductions in population (without using heavy-handed policies like one-child laws). A system that NEEDS endless population growth is doomed to collapse.

>>2196751
disease mostly affects older people so cold as it is, this probably is a net benefit for the top heavy Chinese demographic profile

So am I the only one here that remembered the “social and supply chain shocks” part of my own post? For those of you who don’t know, a lot of the people fucking dying right now are having their bodies burned in mass crematoriums. The footage of the level of death is unsettling and the CPC has thankfully taken action to keep it hidden from the internet.

However, the social and emotional damage on the ground is unavoidable. Imagine all the families that are going to have to deal with a generation of people suddenly dying all at once in front of them at an abnormal rate. Imagine waking up in a city that ends up deserted after being considered lively just a day before (this exact experience is already being felt by some mainland Chinese).

The generations coming out of the collapse are going to look back on current Chinese citizens and consider them to be irresponsible and unconcerned with the future of their own children and themselves given how much damage they’re causing to the Chinese populace.

>>2197137
I cannot imagine how hard it’s going to be for all the people there having to visit graveyards or crematories or funeral homes just to find dozens to hundreds of other people seeing their loved ones pass away all so suddenly in the same place. The image of that description by itself is so discomforting.

>>2197115
Damn, China has a fertility rate lower than Japan, 0.9
! ? that's in the top 5 worst. Chiba will soon become an old country of retarded, full of debt, and no one to work to pay that off…

>>2197103
It doesn't matter, dude. You know full well that if push comes to shove, communists will be the first ones to implement artificial wombs with social welfare good enough to make those kids productive members of society happy with their upbringing. Capitalists will first try to cheap out on this by inviting migrants en masse, then they will make religious minority donors living on welfare like ones in Israel or Mormons, who will be donating population that's horrified and scarred about their relatives still living in medieval horror ways, then they'll implement artificial wombs and make kids suffer enormous amounts of debts heaved on them, etc etc

You know full well how it will work out. China seems to be frightened by post-COVID total fertility rates, but not to the point of panic or anything. They just gave full support to motherhood without putting women into cages or banning contraception or the like. Normal fucking behaviour. And you, being a westoid yourself, know full fucking well what your government would have done in such a situation

>>2196751
There's no sterilization crisis, people were just isolated in their homes and didn't couple for a while. Incel/femcel epidemic is related to this

>>2197145
cool, new nightmares

>>2197157
Westoids will also undergo economic collapse with foreignborn population leaving for their native countries (just like happened in USA in 1920-30s), and we will see utter chaos and collapse with rightoids talking about how breeding and rollback to pastoralism should become state policies

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global birthrates are below replacement, the difference with China is its the only country capable of making the inevitable transition to a political system that solves the birthrate issue. precedent was already set with the USSR so it can't be that hard

>>2197207
>transition to a political system

>>2197207
USSR didn't solve the birthrate issue, though it kept TFR close to 2.1

Is there really a need to solve it, though? Not talking about sterilizing everybody or anything, just saying, should people really sacrifice their well-being for creating kids so that their capitalist overlords can profit in comfort?

>>2197233
there's no solving the birthrate issue under capitalism at all, so its not a question of necessity. as the global economic framework falls apart at the seams the race is on for a political system that can survive the transition, and the first country or countries to solve it will dominate the world

>>2197249
Look at the following >>2197145 >>2197183

Declining birth rates are only an issue to capitalism when politicians are also anti-immigration.

>>2197233
Based and antinatalistpilled

>>2197257
>politician are anti immigration

In what world you live? Last time i read being a politician in first world country that isn't in favor of immigration is almost a death sentence, are you delusional?

Nothing is going to happen to your treats, that's why production has been moving to India.

>>2197278
>production has been moving to India
Lol. lmao even. Indians aren't educated enough for industrial production on Chinese scale. India is still majority agrarian, even

>>2197257
the only places left with positive birthrates are being rapidly developed by chinas belt and road. pretty soon there won't be any immigration to the rich countries at all. this is why porky purposefully kept parts of the world underdeveloped until they couldn't sustain it
>>2197254
delusional tbqh


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