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/leftypol/ - Leftist Politically Incorrect

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The average millennial or gen z member has little to almost zero social supports, family members outside of their immediate parent(s), and potentially friends.

These people are ostracized from nearly all social institutions from their birth to adulthood, but they are still expected to somehow contribute to society at a level that their parents didn’t have to work at. The average member of gen z, k, or the millenial generation has to have an education, knowledge of how anything in their society works, and where to find and provide support for others, all while never being provided information on what the hell is going on past the internet which at this point is mostly propaganda, ai garbage, scams, advertisements, and misinformation.

Throw in that most educational institutions are underfunded (often deliberately), don’t provide relevant information on what the fuck is going on at any time, and sometimes fail to do so little as get people literate and your stuck with several generations of people that have been largely abondoned by the people that need them to suddenly become caregivers to support them in old age. I can see why there are so many illiterate man children my age fucking everyone and what I said are just the start of the problems.

>>2199600
https://fortune.com/2025/03/25/gen-z-neet-not-in-education-employment-training-higher-ed-worthless-degrees-college/

https://www.removepaywall.com/

>I can see why there are so many illiterate man children my age fucking everyone

Anecdotal fallacy. This is still the most educated and literate generation ever. Their skills however have taken a hit.

>>2199605
Maybe, but I’m not seeing it.

The average college student can barely read at an elementary level. Besides, what good is all that knowledge if these people have trash social skills, horrible issues with concentration, and a terrible understanding of their immediate surroundings. The sheer number of people coming up today with symptoms of chronic ADHD, schizophrenia, dissociation, and other hypofrontality-related disorders is far higher today than in the past for reasons unrelated to changes in diagnostic practice.

Our society is setting future generations up to fail in life horribly even with all the tech and education available to them.

>>2199610
>I’m not seeing it
Again, Anecdotal fallacy.
>Besides, what good is all that knowledge if these people have trash social skills, horrible issues with concentration
Survival
>and a terrible understanding of their immediate surroundings
They seem to be the most aware
>Our society is setting future generations up to fail in life horribly even with all the tech and education available to them
Because said society decided it wasn’t getting enough profits.

>>2199613
Not really. Again, the internet and many news networks are full of so much misinformation and bad faith narratives that they largely aren’t reliable sources to gather information on anything. The worst offenders of misinforming the public are usually the most popular news networks. Just look at the abomination that is American news when you’re having headlines of people convinced of pseudoscience, conspiracy theories about secrete societies and occultism, and constant fears over false flag attacks.

I wish I could say that most of the planet is better but it really isn’t when you’re having reports of Indian men beliving that their genitals are receding into their tummies or Buddhist nazism running rampant throughout Europe.

I 'member when my boomer dad used to throw me out of the house because I was playing too many vidya gaems and he'd say stuff like "go outside and make friends" but then I'd just wander around a near-empty neighborhood, trekking across miles of concrete and asphalt, with nothing to do but sit with my own thoughts.

I honestly think the boomers imagine that if you go outside you'll see kids on bikes trying to find some lost pirate's treasure or people chatting with each other. Meanwhile I go outside and I see my armenian neighbor put up a big ass fence with a bunch of signs like "DUE TO THE PRICE OF AMMUNITION, DO NOT EXPECT A WARNING SHOT" "IGNORE THE DOG, BEWARE OF OWNER", "IS HEAVEN REAL?! CROSS THIS FENCE AND FIND OUT!"

American suburbia is fucking wild dudes.

>>2199605
>>2199613
>>2199617
Conspiracy theories was the norm far more back in the old days.
Also, people were less literate.

>>2199610
The problem is that society actively bars the youth from worldly affairs.

>>2199632
Most adults always complain about how society is youth oriented and there aren't many things for adults.
It's the other way around. Kids are over-policed and pathologised for any slight nuances or transgression.

>>2199632
>I see my armenian neighbor put up a big ass fence with a bunch of signs like "DUE TO THE PRICE OF AMMUNITION, DO NOT EXPECT A WARNING SHOT"
I'm prety sure that's also the national motto of Armenia.

>>2199632
I had this experience growing up too. It’s really bad on the mind and predisposes you to having issues with spatial awareness and memory later in life from my own experiences. You have to force yourself onto other people man. There’s too many antisocial idiots that are headed straight for a life of constant confusion if they stay indoors for any longer.

My parents kicked my ass out the day I turned 18. Told me I could only avoid being disowned if I enlisted, after a month of sleeping rough I did do that. I was welcomed back and had to pay $500 in rent to live in my childhood bedroom.

>>2199703
That’s pretty scummy

>>2199710
"Welcome to the real world!"
"A man gets it on his own, without help"
"The worst thing a man can do is ask for help"
"You only have yourself in this world, be a man about it"

Welcome to the deep south

>>2199688
>>2199632
Armenians are real gangsta until the Bayraktars show up.

>>2199713
Oh the irony in that thinking when you put a single “real man” against the performance of a group of “real men”

>>2199632
Damn core memory unlocked

>>2199713
So did you move out and cut contact or have they met with an… "accident"?

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>another vibes and feels thread

>>2199713
Man this is some third world living condition except in the third world there is a social network that can compensate for this
No wonder american soldiers are just psycho all the time

>>2199689
Oh for sure socializing was important, but it's not exactly like there were people outside to socialize with. Either folks were driving in their cars or it was people well beyond my own age group.

I'm not joking when I say that, outside of school, things like MMOs and online forums were probably a massive source of social interaction for me. "JUST GO OUTSIDE" doesn't mean jack shit when you're a kid without even an allowance. No bike (granted I'd probably get killed on some of the streets here) and no money, and it seemed like most if all the places around me were liquor stores and tobacco shops.

Spent most of my time going to my church. At least there it was quiet, cool, and I could sit down somewhere.

>>2199718
Well they're broke af, what can you do

not-so-subtle succdem retardation thread

>it's another genpol thread

look. generations are to an extent real and people from genreations are products of their time, but the way we create these imaginary cutoff points where someone born in 1964 is a "boomer" and someone born in 1965 is a "gen x"… it's all marketing demographics and bullshit. you're literally using the advertising groupings of the capitalists to understand the people around you. class is a lot more relevant. my impoverished boomer grandparents need me to take care of them. do I go up to them and go "nooo you're a hecking BOOMER, your generation RUINED the world, you were so IRRESPONSIBLE" like some kind of person who's incapable of distinguishing useful fictions from reality? no. I help them because I love and care about them. Have they been personally irresponsible in their lives? Sometimes. Are they the spitting image of the person who was born at the right time in American history to make six figures and then fuck off on social security and go on cruises and leave their kids nothing? No. Some are. They aren't. I'm so tired of genpol. I really am. Especially the way it groups people into these marketing demographic cattle pens and gets them to point fingers at each other. As soon as you're done blaming the boomers and gen Xers because they're all dead it'll be your turn to be blamed. That's how divide and conquer strategies work. Pit son against father, brother against sister, so that class solidarity becomes impossible. It's just another form of idpol.

>>2199844
Dude that demographic is specifically responsible for cutting off government and ordinary social supports for the average person. No one else in your entire country’s history pulled that shit or advocated for it.

>>2199600
>generational politics from a spec Ed aesthetic leftist
This shit will still get at least 60 unsaged replies because you people are fucking dumb.

At this point you could merge everything between millenial and gen alpha into a broader orphan generation because yeah we really are running into this blind.

just b urself :-)

>>2200021
“Orphan generation” what a good description

>>2199600
There's a similar phenomen to american boomerism in post-socialist eastern europe, where say those born till 1970 still had it kinda good because they got to experience the social security of real socialism and are (the older they are) more out of touch how things behave. They are also mostly responsible for the political inertia that has developed with bourgeois democracies since they vote based on vibes and their economic instincts are always paid by others, so they vote for those most reactionary.

Anyway, I'm not to fond of generationalism, but there is a clear generational shock that those born 1970-1980 felt and made them (in a very broad sense) 'schizophrenic' socially. I never looked into it, but I'd wager that most suicides are in this cohort. They're the lost generation. Those experiencing the counterrevolution, having their future stolen, then living under neoliberalism and probably going to be middle aged once some social revolution erupts. It is the worst of times.

Those born from 1990 onwards are just children of neoliberalism. >>2200021 I echo this description. We really have no referential point of social organization except neoliberalism. But I think this is good. Most of us have absolutely no ties to the past. We're not burdened with tumors of history. Without guidance most will lapse into nihilism/neobuddhism/antihuman spinozism, some turn 'hyper-schizophrenic' (I hate using psychological parallales but I'm lacking words to describe the phenomen of isolated individuals falling for conspiratorial thinking and holding extreme, ecclectical political combinations), and some turn communist. We should exploit the fact that the orphans of history are blank slates and aggresively agitate for communist demands. We have more to gain than to lose.

>>2200067
What about pessimism? Do people become pessimistic when alone or do people learn to lower their expectations about life when they work in groups?

>>2199713
>>2199600
>>2199786
>>2199703
>>2199689
This is what burger farts get for leaving Europe and genociding the natives of north america :) I don't even feel slightly sorry when I see threads like this. Maybe stay home next time instead of going to the genocide rave.

>>2199786
To some degree, people in the periphery or even in Europe outside of the settler-states don't get how fucked our countries are. Maybe Bongland is similar because of the former British Empire. It's just weird, weirdness. IDK how to explain. The whole country is a cult.
-t. Klanadian

>>2199844
You get that loving your parents is not a privilege every person has right? You don't get how it fucks you up inside. A lot of us are completely broken. There's an idea that only poor families are abusive but tbh I think it's often the other way around.

>>2200133
😕 Look, we we're basically raised in a white Supremacist cult. I get that it's a result of settler-colonialism but it's still left us pretty fucked up. Communism is about solving problems not about moralism. I suppose landback and other movements are maybe a start towards dealing with this stuff.

>>2200286
No it's not, Landback is ultimately nothing more than scheme by the bourgeoisie in order to seize federal land and they are using the natives as pawns in their scheme.

>>2200133
>>2200267
You're part of the problem. Stop blaming the white american working class for what happened. It wasn't white people as a whole who did it; The people who caused the native genocide in the first place were landed gentry, monarchs and nobles.

t pic related.

>>2200293
>No it's not, Landback is ultimately nothing more than scheme by the bourgeoisie in order to seize federal land and they are using the natives as pawns in their scheme.
Land back is in constant conflict with the bourgeoisie precisely against appropriating land for capital (an ongoing process), most obviously with the pipeline shit. You are a retard spouting nonsense that is not only false but literally backwards.

>>2200293
Leaving your homeland to settle on stolen land is a choice. I'm not "blaming" the American working class for carrying out genocide, you or your ancestors willfully came to the United Sates on your own accord knowing full well what the government was doing. You abandoned your home to settle on stolen land. Its hard to complain about your poor little poverty or whatever. You are the one who brought race into the equation.

>>2200293
>>2200317
None of you have any nuance. The imperial core has a massively bloated labor aristocracy but not literally every white person is a bourgeois pig. Also the labor aristocracy is decaying as America is on the decline.

>>2200286
Land back is irrelevant, and the things I am saying have nothing to do with moralism. You or your ancestors did things that were in your own interest which harmed others and you gained special privileges in the US based on race and other factors. Its hard to complain now when all your social safety nets are going to shit because whether or not you realize it, the same people who committed that genocide are still in power in your country. Its like an abused child who is mad when the privileges you got dry up and your government leaves you for dead. The same people who beat and berate you now are the same people who killed and pillaged the land of the natives and you walked right into their domain and made it your home. You walked straight into the bears mouth and set up a tent.

>>2200324
It has nothing to do with "being white" and boomers in the US are nothing but spoon-fed brats who profited off WW2 and now the well has gone dry in the US and people act surprised when everything goes away or refuse to even acknowledge it because then it might call into question the actions of their ancestors.

>>2200326
>>2200340
🙄 Yes, my ancestors were assholes. That's literally what the entire thread is about. You just want to shit on the millennial working class.

>>2200133
> US IP address
How does this keep happening

>anthropomorphize and associating inevitable trends of class society to specific age groups
<hurrrrrr it's harder for me to become a petit-bourgeois parasite this is why we need Communism(tm)
fucking retarded

>>2200352
I'm not trying to blame you for the actions of your ancestors, I think its funny that Americans are surprised that their lives continue to get worse because you think your government actually cares about you. Nothing has changed at all, its the same people in power who killed all the natives, they never cared about you even once.
>>2200355
VPN Moment, also no need to spy on me.

>>2200360
Nobody wants to actually be either bourg or petit bourg, they want the standard of living and security said classes have, rightfully so, people deserve to have their work rewarded and using money to make money devalues the actual work needed to keep society going

>>2200362
Why do I bother talking to overseas petite-bourgeoise "leftists?"

>>2200384
I don't know, why do I spend my time talking to feds? Both are great questions.

>>2200387
>I don't know, why do I spend my time talking to feds?
Like the mysterious "J. Sakai"?


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