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 No.16322

Talk about why every single site except reddit and fbi.gov has been complete and utterly abandoned.

>Interesting things going on
Browsers are all forcing https by default. On the surface this sounds like a good idea but in reality it's part of a larger plan of control.
Website owners are now at the mercy of the cert authorities. Host something they dont like? you cert gets revoked and now your site wont load on 99% of web browsers.
you have been shutdown.

>What is the dead internet theory?
Dead internet is partly caused by a generational problem, zoomers just want to be where they're friends are. it's understandable, we even did the
same back in the 2000s. everyone was on AIM and myspace. The only difference is those platforms actually did allow free speech back then. now the
internet has become more centralized and a handful of big corps run it all. they are in charge of what gets said on their platforms. not you.

>big techs goal
Big tech is fighting a future war. They know the young are the future. It’s about indoctrination. They are building their vision for the future. A dumbed down controlled population.

>What is the purpose of these threads?
To start a community outside of those corporate owned platforms.
To have a place to discuss things without having to self police yourself.
To discuss and share decentralization technologies.

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 No.16323

HTTPS only protects again man in the middle attacks, it is why every modern phishing site have legit https as you just have to have modern modern keys for your server. When you do see a web site with broken https it is because their server is running outdated keys (or enough people reported it as a malicious site).
Thus you have the situation where any script kiddie can rent a web server that is already setup with https and up to date keys, where all have to do is drop in their webpage that mimics a login page then pay for a domain name that is close enough.

 No.16324

lol

 No.16326

>>16322
The traditional forums you remember still exist, are surprisingly active, and filled with like-minded people who prefer the healthier and more intellectually engaging format of forums to social media. They may not get the exposure and growth we wish and they probably deserve, but that's because normie zoomer newcomers to the internet prefer the speed and simplicity offered by shitholes like facebook, twitter, reddit, and fbi.gov. The old internet never truly died, you're just lazy.

 No.16327

>>16326
Based, forums will never die
Still, what really interests me is Usenet
I know it's still "alive", but are people actually active on it to be considered a social hub?

 No.16331

The internet is not dead, it just got gentrified.

 No.16332

>>16331
How is the modern Internet any different then the walled gardens of AOL, Prodigy and CompuServe? What made the Internet the Internet in the 1990s is long dead, where the Internet is now a zombie of what is use to be.

 No.16333

>>16322
Fuck off with your glowie Matrix bridge. We sure need more American-TelAviv alternatives for the dead internet, for sure.

Fuck off to Matrix and 4ch.

 No.16335

>Browsers are all forcing https by default. On the surface this sounds like a good idea but in reality it's part of a larger plan of control.
Website owners are now at the mercy of the cert authorities. Host something they dont like? you cert gets revoked and now your site wont load on 99% of web browsers.
you have been shutdown.

Use .onions, GNUnet, Freenet or I2P.

 No.16340

>>16335
>Use .onions, GNUnet, Freenet or I2P.
Good luck getting normies to do this

 No.16345

.onion doesn't protect against man-in-the-middle attacks because it doesn't encrypt the last relay traffic when there's the lack of HTTPS. That's the hole of legacy TCP/IP model.

Alternatively, you can ask people to import your own HTTPS certificate, but again: good luck getting normies to do this and tying to avoid many and many man-in-the-middle attacks by importing random certificates.

 No.16362

>>16345
>.onion doesn't protect against man-in-the-middle attacks because it doesn't encrypt the last relay traffic when there's the lack of HTTPS.
Yes it does. That's why you don't need https on .onion domains.

MITM attacks aren't possible on v3 .onion domains (and unlikely on v2) because they are 56 characters long. These 56 characters are a base 32 number based on the server's public key. You would have to guess the matching private key to do a MITM attack.

 No.16370

Oops my bad, didn't noticed i said '.onion' lol
I mean Tor and other relay services you can use on top of TCP/IP protocol

 No.17415

https://web.archive.org/web/20221031090508/https://theintercept.com/2022/10/31/social-media-disinformation-dhs/

 No.17426

The internet isn't literally "dead", but considering most users willingly bend themselves and their behaviour to algorithms it might as well be

 No.17427

>>17426
Also it doesn’t help that the developers of those algorithms had generations of people that had already grown up on pervasive masscult in other mediums such as TV and cinema and print and radio
Every conceivable petty prejudice and inclination already hammered out for them

 No.17428

>>17427
Yet computer scientists going back to the 1960s saw the goal of search features as actually serving the wanted data from an ocean of data. AT&T Bell Labs during development of Unix would think the idea of a search that injected "recommended" results as completely stupid as why would want the computer to do something you didn't ask it to do. Imagine if databases worked like this, you searched a field and the database pulls up records that has nothing to do with what you just queried based on what you searched days prior.

Yet you have Google's search getting worse due to it throwing in results that has nothing to do with your query and I would think the old school computer scientists would see this as completely unacceptable.

 No.17434

https://theconversation.com/what-is-shadowbanning-how-do-i-know-if-it-has-happened-to-me-and-what-can-i-do-about-it-192735
Fwiw the wooswoos website @ https://www.wsws.org/ is shadowbanned from Google news and content searches and has been for a very long time

 No.18145

>>16327
No, Usenet is for piracy these days.

 No.18146

>>16327
>forums will never die
Lol

 No.18148

>>16322
>
>Webchat link for zoomer cattle
What the actual give kind of cancerous perspective is this?

 No.18153

>freeze peach
that's all this agora forum fucking synthwave epic chans meme is about
sage

 No.18175

>>16322
Based thread, if tor was faster i would use it as my daily driver

 No.18209

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>Webchat link for zoomer cattle
this is absolutely repugnant

 No.18213

>>17426
Saw Sam Kriss raise a similar point
>For all the panic over online censorship, this stuff is far more destructive. You have no free speech—not because someone might ban your account, but because there’s a vast incentive structure in place that constantly channels your speech in certain directions. And unlike overt censorship, it’s not a policy that could ever be changed, but a pure function of the connectivity of the internet itself. This might be why so much writing that comes out of the internet is so unbearably dull, cycling between outrage and mockery, begging for clicks, speaking the machine back into its own bowels.

 No.18270

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/how-much-of-the-internet-is-fake.html

 No.21880

The /siberia/ns are having opinions on this → >>>/siberia/457877

 No.21881

>>16322
>zoomer cattle
Fucking generational idpol is a complete cancer

 No.21899

>>21881
The zoomer/boomer dichotomy is actually meant to parodize generationism but people like OP don't get it and use it on unironical contexts

 No.21927

>>21899
Wtf
If this is true then it's a fucking massive example of Poe's Law

 No.21928

>>21927
the boomer wojak meme literally started as "the 30-year-old boomer"

 No.21949

>>18146
Plenty of forums I lurked in the 2010s are ghost towns now

 No.21981

>>21949
>500 people used to post here…

 No.21982

>>21981
>our so-called webmasters… prostituted us to google… destroyed our communities… our fandoms… our dignity. Our posts have been deleted from our soil.

 No.21983

> The only difference is those platforms actually did allow free speech back then
No they didn’t, fuck off


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