/lgbt/ - LGBT

>>5631
>I can't declare myself agender or non-binary because in my every day social context, I am still a man, something I can't unilaterally negate.
That's external. If you'd be agender in an environment you're not forced to perform manhood, then you're agender, simple as.
>>5632
You need to be 18+ and have a least highschool level reading comprehension to post here.

>>5643
- twitter dunking culture: debate addicts like to get a screenshot of the other party's profile and let onlookers fill in their own biases as to why the profile is worth derision. Pronouns are something trans people and people that interact with trans people regularly include, so chuds got rewired to get angry when they see a pronoun in any context.
- Thinktanks are international joints and just sorta push the same narrative internationally, regardless if it makes sense in every language the youtubers / journalists assigned to push it speak in.

so much retarded bullshit gets peddled in the name of combating da gender binary that only ends up hurting trans women lmfao

i got drunk and started questioning my gender again

>>5631
Why is this important to you? I think that's where we should start

>>5297
He looks like he has a birth defect

>>5297
>Another lanzoid
Have I finally found my people?

>>5297
I would make sure his farts never made a sound again.

>>5297
hot but wouldn't fuck
>>4091
mid

>>4091
He looks mid to ugly

>>5604

sorry for my amerilard ignorance but i was under the impression that russia was a large country with like a hundred million people living in it, i didn't realize you were the only one.

1. Almost never in real life. Maybe monthly on the internet, as someone without much of an online presence. I live in a pretty progressive small city with lots of trans people in it, and I think strangers tend to read me as a gender-nonconforming cis woman so if I get harassed it's for being a dyke. "Clockier" friends of mine definitely get way more shit than I do.
2. Probably monthly in real life, and every time I go on the internet and look at a place with people in it without exception. Not necessarily "wishing death" most of the time, but every time I go out with a group of friends primarily composed of clocky trans women, a stranger says something fucked up to one or all of us.
3. It started getting bad around 2017, it got This Type Of Bad in 2020 and hasn't stopped.
4. I'm pretty numb to it. I've been trans for like a decade and the common understanding has generally been that you grow a thick skin or die.

>>5607
You’re an Amerimutt. You’ve never lived in Russia and you know nothing about it. So STFU and stop trying to tell a Russian what it’s like to live in Russia.

Fuck, YouTube keeps recommending me a video of some soyteen making fun of trans suicide in Minecraft.

>>5609
>You’re an Amerimutt. You’ve never lived in Russia and you know nothing about it. So STFU and stop trying to tell a Russian what it’s like to live in Russia.

oh sorry i forgot that it's the year 3000 BC and there is no possible way for anyone to know what happens in other countries we just don't have the technology.

i'm beginning to suspect you're not really from russia and this is just some weird personality disorder shit you are doing rn. i've talked to a lot of actual russians and even the far-right ones are not so over-the-top and hamfisted as you are.

Semi-relevant

>>5566
Hetmoids are to blame

>It seems inevitable due to the material conditions
Explain to me exactly how and by which mechanism is it made inevitable.

>>5626
Women have to do a lot of domestic labor when there are no cities and nothing is industrialized. It's also a matter of how there just aren't as many jobs.

>>5627
I asked for "explain", "exactly", "by which mechanism". Not "say something vague and semi-related".

>>5255
Working-class men materially rely on the coercive extraction of women's domestic labor in the family. The workers are misogynist and queerphobic because they materially benefit from the status quo.

>>5257
Actually spot on.
#1 being the most relevant given this board's userbase.
You have to keep in mind a lot of leftypol users were far-right less than a decade ago. Eventually they realized some of what they believed was retarded, but to acknowledge that EVERYTHING that believed was wrong would cause ego death, so they're still clinging onto what they can. This leads to all kinds of mental gymnastics and laundering reactionary ideology as leftism.

>>5255
>Recent
This has been going on since wall street, and it was a genuine problem with Obama's presidency, Biden's, and also the fail runnings of Kamala and Clinton.

>>5256
Idk it could be Haz, it also could be because liberal movements like feminism and lgbt stuff failed to be desirable by 3rd worldist since those liberal movements werent anti-imperialist prob bexause of their white/american supremacy baked into them

>>5257
Are u an anarchist

>>5563
>This has been going on since wall street, and it was a genuine problem with Obama's presidency, Biden's, and also the fail runnings of Kamala and Clinton.

you might be a child, but everything since 2000 is historically recent

>>5258
is this a serious answer? workers include working class women

rawr >:3

>>5615
hot

Free me from this human flesh prison :(

>>5652
You queer soul will go to heaven

>>5478

???? i was bumping this to remind myself to respond to this earlier and also so it won’t be archived afterwards wth

>>4941

>Leftypol is unfortunately full of reactionary retards who make the dumbest arguments possible

not surprised. siberia is filled with sexists and hostility from what i’ve observed so far

>>4939
you have to define the category 'middle class' for it to be meaningful. 'LGBT community' should also be defined (do you just mean "LGBT people" or do you mean the specific, online, english-language america-centric LGBT community?)
most of the online LGBT community are downwardly mobile lower middle class westerners, with a weird sort of distribution that means the loudest voices are either unemployed and impoverished (lots of time to post, not much else to do), or upper-middle income. (they do a popular podcast about gay movies and posting hot takes doubles as advertising)

but this is a function of a bunch of selection biases (there aren't too many papuan tribesmen with an income of $444 a year posting in english on twitter.com even before you look for the sub-set who're LGBT, and the sub-set of that sub-set who want to talk about LGBT things with foreign strangers they'll never meet irl) rather than because of the distribution of LGBT people themselves.

>>4939
gay and trans are trve proletarians, unless most of them dislike my take on AI art, in which case they're petit bourgeois roaches being proletarianized

>>5540

my take is better than yours

Worth noting that there's a measurable trend of downward class mobility for usamerican trans women

>>5373
Not to be hugboxy, but did you get second opinion on your looks? Self perception can be biased.
>t. spend years thinking I am repulsive goblin creature

>>5458
I can second this. I've met people who insisted they were ugly when they were actually insanely cute. I myself always thought I was meh but a number of people have found me really attractive.

hello lot. aap poonah visiting from /tttt/. board's going to shit so some folks said to start checking this place out instead. what's y'all's deal? i kinda expected it to be like /tttt/ but without the neonazis but this just feels like edgier tumblr. can't say it isn't kinda nice tho, i've been starting to explore leftism and it's nice to be in a board that's not full of random white chuds calling me the nword.

>"Femboy" eceleb
>look inside
>woman
Should be illegal tbqh. I'm not normally a fan of gatekeeping labels but if you're going to call yourself a femboy you should at least be AMAB or identify as a man.

Skinny nerdy whitebois surrender your bussy.

>>5519
>they seem too humanist
humanism is believing in any kind of transcendental essence not just making fun of your larp you stupid pseud

>>5550
who cares
why would i pretend to hold a closed-minded position against some slightly odd but ultimately harmless people trying to be happy just because /pol/ might see me doing it?

normalize kink shaming again

>>5562

kink shaming turns me on

>>5549
I'm a normie with a job and this thread makes me feel so seen lol

I don't use public pools, which is probably a factor as to why I've never been all that dysphoric aside from my face.

I don't think that's it at all. Maybe for some people, I'm sure. For myself, my wife, and many others I've talked about this with, though, bottom dysphoria very explicitly comes from itself - the physical sensation of having the wrong thing there is upsetting, as if you have a foreign entity attached to your body and continuously assaulting it with alien sensations.
A different society or set of categorizations wouldn't help at all in this scenario.

I've actually often seen this used as an example of whether you should get SRS or not - "If the world was happy with your current body and it didn't have any trouble categorizing you, would you still want SRS?" If no, some would say it's not worth it, since you're not even "doing it for you" so to speak. Obviously that depends on your own personal priorities, though.

When I got SRS myself, fitting a category was the furthest thing from my mind. I just wanted the fucking cancerous growth gone so it would stop dealing me constant psychic damage.

https://www.thepelvichub.com/blogs/ask-the-experts/do-i-have-to-use-dilators-forever-after-srs?
Sounds terrible

>>5591
That article seems to be missing some crucial information and falling for classic conservative talking points - for example, it isn't at any point "an open wound", that would be ridiculous as it would imply that penetrating it would lead to nothing but blood and insides, which isn't even remotely true. Any actual "wound" material is protected by stitches til it heals away.

It's just an area between your legs that's being acted upon by muscles a lot since you, y'know, walk. So the muscles will contract it. Likewise, your muscles can help open it up again. Ask anyone who's ever done kegels - the muscles in your crotch area can be trained like any others.

And, of course, a huge percentage of women have to do kegels and other exercises in that area, because these areas can be damaged in childbirth or simply not work right sometimes…
Which makes this the millionth example of people being scared and confused by something just because most cishet men don't have to deal with it. Big surprise.

Outside of the initial dilation to help the area heal right, which could indeed take many months, you can generally go months at a time between dilations and even undo shrinkage if you do have any. Also, penetrative sex does it just as well, meaning the "oh no you have to dilate forever" actually translates to "have you tried getting laid like half a dozen times a year maybe".

Also, y'know, even when done with toys, it's usually enjoyable, because you're penetrating your vagina 🙄

Getting laid or masturbating with toys half a dozen times a year isn't flashy or difficult. It's kinda, y'know, nothing. Effortless. Which doesn't make good headlines or play well as a way to scare gullible people.

Turns out everything is fine and boring actually.
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