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lefty gay general - boyfriend edition

How do we feel about our bfs /lgbt/? I love mine lots and lots and can't wait till he gets home from work personally.
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>>2768
>>2769
This is something most people are too pussy to admit because it would considered chauvinistic.

We need to stop coddling insecure men into transitioning to feel better about themselves.
I also think that the girly clothes used by trans women and crossdressing males is overkill. Most cis women don't dress like that unless for prom.

I think some trans women want to "compete" with cis women and then cry about TERFism.

They're just as petty as TERFs.

I would like to see trans women who would be willing to still dress male or at least androgynous without needing so much make up.

>>2775
I mean I'm not saying that people shouldn't transition past a certain age. That's an important personal decision and people need to do what they feel is best for themselves. I'd respect the least and most passing tgirl equally. Its just that realistically the later you transition the less likely you are to look good doing it, and you're definitely going to look worse than a cis guy who is just trying to look like a cute and feminine man. Tbf tho I'm biased because I'd pick a femboy who pulls it off over literally any other person regardless of how well they pull off their particular aesthetic or gender expression. They're just my favourite.

>>2775
Most trans people I know, including one of my closest friends, don't use "overly feminine" clothes or whatever. I feel this is an internet thing. Others I know use very "experimental" clothes that defy gender norms.

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Enough chit-chatter about trains. There's something that's been on my mind. I've heard there's a someone for everyone, basically every body-type has its fans. Muscular, short, tan, etc. I hope it's true, everyone deserves to have someone who likes them physically. Though admittedly some body-types are going to have considerably more enjoyers than others. Personally I don't know how many people like the shorter, scrawny look; but hey won't know for certain 'till I put myself out there.

>>2764
Artist is kuroh.shiro he's (?) got an insta page and a cara page but sadly the art I posted is not there. Shame, he's got other art of cute boys and while not bad they're hardly anything to appreciate.

>>2793
>Personally I don't know how many people like the shorter, scrawny look
Isn't that the basic twink body type? Personally that's my favourite. My bf is like that, about 9 inches shorter than me and nearly half my weight.



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hey everyone :3
who are all of your favourite lgbt musicians??

right now mines Lex Walton, who you can find at https://youthagainstsatan.bandcamp.com I think she's one of the best songwriters currently doing it and her music is v heavily about being trans and gay. i think her latest album "I WANT YOU TO KILL ME" is probably her best but it might be easier to get into her through "Our Desire Lacks Knowing Music" or some of her EPs like "GIRLFRIENDS" or "ALEX WALTON BY ALEX WALTON FROM THE ALBUM ALEX WALTON"


i also do music which you can find at https://roseorlando.bandcamp.com i think my stuffs a little less explicitly gay and trans just due to the way i write but it's still an integral part of it, lemme know if you check it out :3
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>>1072
Sounds like a whole lot of morality and nothing substantial.

>>670
chappell roan
she's like a loser but also a woman

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bump

There's a very niche community of gay rappers / hip-hop on Yt and personally I think it's funniest shit ever. Lots of scatological and rape humor. It's like musical drag, just the worst idea about gay rapers a conservative could imagine done comedically. Kolossal is prrobably the biggest name, but I'm not sure.
A collab from them all: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2U_yC4FktEM

>>780
>Car Seat Headrest
Indie rock bands give me memories to a cute twink I met online once and god it's discomforting. Good music taste though.



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The solution to queerphobia is organized class suicide. The material base of the family is petty-bourgeois private homeownership. Women and openly queer people face a material pressure to move to the city and rent in order to live outside of the petty-bourgeois division of reproductive labor and bourgeois property inheritance. Nothing less than class suicide will free queer people from queerphobia.

In the context of the periphery and the peasantry, queerphobia and misogyny must be fought with by economic development. There is also the issue of queerphobic lumpen who envy the bourgeoisie. The solution here is economic development and developing the class consciousness of the oppressed.

Kind of shit that Mao Zedong Thought IRL is tainted by peasant/semi-feudal reaction but that's life. But yeah, the solution to queerphobia is organized class suicide or class development.

i have to agree, even though i am not an expert in leftist theory, I agree that due to powerstruggels we are being forced to social conformity and that's less with a classless or even stateless society. please comment critique to this comment if you want

>>2786
IDK I feel like the need for proletarianization implies some form of NEP/market socialism is required to abolish the family. But this seems counterintuitive.



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And I was misgendered at the queer event by… I won't say what identity, what gender, the person was. Or what pronouns they used. Or how their gender presentation was. We know I can't say that.
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lol mods really deleted the posts by trans people and let all the vibes garbage up, awesome "lgbt" board

who was it who said trans women are the jews of gender I don't remember but that was a hilarious post

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>>2783
nick land originally but you know how it goes with twitter

good first post to see here

>>2780
i have no idea why the anon i was arguing with got their posts removed, there was nothing that broke the rules, even their brand of gender essentialism isn't off topic for this board since it started. i swear mods will remove literally anything arbitrarily without reason or justification, it makes me feel like im going crazy every time i come back to a thread to see half the fucking replies were removed for absolutely no reason



 

If you are protesting for the "No Kings" day on June 14th, please bring your Pride flags, and/or American flags too!
We need to fight back in optics so that we stand together.

The media is really focusing on Latin American flags, and desperately are trying to cut off as many American flags from TV broadcast.

Remember this month is Pride! And we must stand for the rights of all people/sibblings from all backgrounds.

Maybe don't bring political affiliation flags like anarchist flags or communism flags. But that can be discussed

i rape all the flags of this earth, your falg is my personal wank hanky bitch

>>2542
damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>2542
this is… a comment

>>2542
Based



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Why do people hate pansexuals? Like, im not bi, but ive met some men i would be happy dateing but most disgust me. Same thing for women. Ive also dated trans folks but i never dated anyone JUST for their gender or gender identity, it seems like meaningless peacokcing behavior to me. I like who i like, regardless of what their identify is or anything else. What i dont understand is the hate toward the term, apart from the normal hate you get from being openly queer. Im a closeted pan sexual and i only really talk about this stuff with my partners, who also are almost always pan.

thoughts?
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Isn't Pansexuality just bisexuality with extra steps?

>>1288
Pansexuality is a fixation on some greater ideal that both conventional male and female beauty seem to embody. To a pansexual, men and women are attractive in the same way because their different attractive features accomplish the same things, to speak.

>Why do people hate pansexuals?
its just weird and not part of the standard 4 letters (tho u could argue its another way to say bisexual)

Because a pansexual person broke my heart. I won't elaborate. But actually I don't hate you, I just think you are just bisexuals with a fancy label and that's it.

as someone who is pan, i think its just so misunderstood and people often let their egos get in the way



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i need to learn to shake my head to the beat in a way that makes other women (lesbian) think "ooh thats one groovey and fun loving ans interesting chica"

speeeeeeedcoooooore

that pic looks like some shitty sanitized zoomer vampire the masquerade lol

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The essence, the basics – without it you make it.
Allow me to make this childlike in nature.
Rhythm: you have it or you don't; that's a fallacy.
I'm in them: every sprouting tree, every child of peace,
Every cloud and sea you see with your eyes.
I see destruction and demise, corruption in disguise
From this fucking enterprise, now I'm sucked into your lives
Through Russel – not his muscles, but percussion he provides, with me as a guide.
Y'all can see me now cuz you don't see with your eyes. You perceive with your mind.
That's the inner, so I'mma stick around with Russ and be a mentor.
Bust a few rhymes so motherfuckers can remember what the thought is.
I brought all this so you can survive when law is lawless.
Feelings, sensations that you thought was dead;
No squealing, remember that it's all in your head.

>>2781
girls be shopping



 

I love how I can't talk about 90% of the very real material things that trigger my [mtf] gender dysphoria, because pointing out things like "girls are socially accepted under the pretense of having inherent value" apparently makes you a chud or something
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I think more constructive framing than whether men or women in general are valued less or more, is whether OP specifically would be. Because if you as a man occupy certain socio-economic possition and posess certain psychological profile, you can see women in similar circumstances doing relatively fine, why you are treated akin to vermin.

>>2464
Once you transition you will stop believing this.

Cis women are only accepted as inherently valuable if they're:

>Young (under three-and-a-half decades of age


>Slim and curvy

>Slender
>Cutesy mannerisms
>Light skinned
>High pitched voice
>Relatively hairless except for the scalp

This thread stays up but the thread making fun of vibegenders gets deleted, lol.

>>2470
girl, maybe try doing something for yourself instead of worrying about your intrinsic "value" decided by a culture that doesnt give a fuck about you either way. maybe just do it because it makes you feel good or something idk why people make this so complicated



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Has anyone else noticed when some people call for the abolition of gender (which is a position I sympathise with even though it is ultra-leftist to expect society to do away with it right now) just seem to be asking for all femininity to be erased? Like when people, and I'm assuming its mostly men trans or cis, say that we need to stop having gender, they also say long hair and pretty clothes need to be banned, and everyone should just be strong and masculine. It feels not many people are expecting gender abolition to cause everyone to become feminine. Idk its interesting hearing about this. I'm reminded of the anime Simoune where the baddies are all transmasc industrialists (I did support them when I watched it because they were historically progressive industrialists). That's basically a vision of gender abolition actually being women abolition. When you talk to lots of people you will hear this. Just ask King Lear what he thinks.
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>>1977
I agree with this. I consider myself a suboptimal male but I don't really see much of a benefit in being a typical female other than having a easier time getting dates especiallg if younger and attractive and more able to to be considered attractive and fashionable. I think in a almost every other being a woman Is inferior at least in my opinion

>>1977
>>2753
I have no respect for these mentalities.
This reads like losers kicking down.

If you think being a woman is inferior, it's because you probably don't respect them as fellow human beings.

Irony is, as a suboptimal male, youd get worse treatment.
You'd have to constantly throw yourself into the meat grinder to get any sort of attention

>>2756
I don't think I'm kicking down I just think it's better to be a guy especially a straight guy compared to women. Honestly I don't think I respect very many humans I find most of us not worthy of respect I don't know how else to put it

>>1968
it's because of westoid brainrot going back to the Greeks where man = active and woman = passive, therefore man = subject and woman = object. the entire project of liberal feminism is not to critique the underlying reasons why patriarchy exists but rather to manage the inequality symptoms it produces, because as with all liberalism, libfem is not capable of understanding the real material causes of anything but only of managing them so that the contradictions don't become so acute that they start to cause a crisis in production (which patriarchy functions as a part of on the micropolitical level of the household and the reproduction of labor). in practice what this results in is almost every feminist project (with the exception of materialist feminism, Marxist feminism, and their offshoots) not having any interest in the actual liberation of women as a class but having a kind of internalized misogyny where being a woman is seen as an inherently abject state, of being objectified by a ruling class of men, and so the solution to this is to simply make everyone functionally a man (a subject).

this is incidentally also why there is a large segment of feminists (again, most feminists arguably) who come up with reasons for either outright hating transfems within a framework of "radical" feminism or backhandedly hating them within liberal feminism (by viewing all trans people as basically doing a kind of permanent drag performance). the idea that someone could choose to be a woman and essentially affirm the class of woman for its own sake doesn't compute with the genealogy of feminist theory that ended up being the most dominant one in the anglosphere and is closer to the materialist feminism of Luce Irigaray and Monique Wittig, particularly Wittig's theory of lesbianism: that a lesbian by choosing to desire women for their own sake and not because of their utility within the reproductive futurist project of the bourgeois heterosexual family form is not really a woman because she chooses to remove herself entirely from the patriarchal power structure and its encodings of desire.

therefore in the final analysis we must conclude that trans women are not really women but rather are, like cis lesbians, something new and better that has the real potential to overcome patriarchy because they the real movement of women as a class abolishing itself much likePost too long. Click here to view the full text.

idk what youre talking about with "forcing everyone to be male", but im convinced that gender abolitionism is just a TERFy radfem talking point that will never actually be implemented and is often used against trans women to argue against sex changes and hormones



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Queer label discourse is so stupid why do people put so much importance on labels, especially the fact they don’t mean anything. Plenty of cis people use the trans label, a lot of bi women call themselves lesbians, many straight men also sleep with guys like labels unironically mean nothing. I saw this discourse about whether lesbianism includes people who aren't women or people who are attracted to men, like 😭 okay, why are people even spending their life energy arguing this stuff, like online people talk a lot of shit they don't stand on in real life and they can argue all day about that online but what really matters it what occurs IRL.
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>>2513
They actually had that option? That is amazing, straights are miles behind on this, they are only now implementing height filters.

>>2512
Why not other things too? Maybe I want to fuck a dominant vegan maoist, and directly asking everyone I match with whether they are dominant vegan maoist is awkward.

>>2429
Narcissism. Its a surrogate for religion, which post-Stonewall queers are apparently allergic to. The labels never meant anything objective to begin with. They were always flawed and fake. Human sexuality is too polymorphous and fluid to ever be nailed down to labels. But people have built identities, communities, marriages, mythistory on labels. We subconsciously acknowledge they are fake, but we keep up the pretense because the reality of fluid sexuality is too mentally disturbing. Since queers are fanatically anti-religious fundamentalists, they have replaced Christianity with their own theological structure. Interpreting one's self and debating identity labels instead of interpreting scripture and doing theology. Its the classic secular thing of trying to plug the spiritual hole that they created by destroying religion in the first place.

One day, I hope we can reach a world without these labels.

>>2510
socializing on the internet at all requires clear personal labels tbh
being mysterious doesnt get u far online

>>2517
>being mysterious doesnt get u far online
this was definitely not the case 10-20 years ago oti

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>>2429
I feel like there is nothing more meaning less than the lesbian label right now.



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