Terminally online bros… it's over
>>20729Will get to this in a minute
>>20730>>20732>>20734>>20744There's a lot of layers here of possible stuff from just plain incompetence (though this would also suggest that a lot of the engineers and whatnot would be incompetent as well), to an intentional attempt to explain away issues on the site as by bad actors exploiting them, to other hypothetical of varying sorts but really, its too early to tell - lets see how things develop.
>>20739>Zuck's TwitterThe concern here is "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish". Even if they decide to use actual ActivityPub, given how everything from Facebook to the Metaverse has been handled as a proprietary exploitation platform, be very skeptical
>>20770>>20774The Fediverse (note the Fediverse Party link also has an "apps" section that shows a LOT of Fediverse projects and "links" to other sites like TheFederation that also are useful) is the best solutions we have so far, but realize they're a bunch of open source decentralized and federated social media projects each with different aims. For instance, Mastodon, Pleroma, and Misskey are meant to be Twitter-like microblogging services, but there's also a lot of others like PeerTube (a youtube and livestreaming alternative which is pretty ambitious), Mobilizon (a Facebook Events / MeetUp style platform from the same people behind PeerTube) , Pixelfed is an Instagram-alike, Friendica and Diaspora are a macro-social setup like Facebook, plus many other projects.
Aside from what Zuck may do, the other big unknown so far is Bluesky/Bsky and its supposed AT Protocol which are developed by h Jack Dorsey, the original Twitter owner. At the moment its invite only , though some docs suggest one reason he didn't just go with supporting Fediverse / ActivityPub apps is that he wanted to make a new federated protocol standard where even accounts would be portable and something about "subscribing to/choosing algorithms " but its all up in the air until we see more and the focus on it being monetization friendly is surely a concern. I have no doubt there will be a LOT of money, advertising, name recognition etc… pushed behind Bluesky/Bsky's debut as it becomes a bit more open and when others sites using its protocol are rolled out, which could be a problem vs the underdog "fediverse / activtypub" projects , draining off users interest and money alike that may have otherwise gone to Fediverse platforms. Time will tell though how Bsky stacks up and if ATProtocol was really necessary and/or useful or did it have a more "not invented here syndrome" or worse, other vested interests carrying it forward.
>>20779>>20780So is "threads" going to be an entirely different site (more microblogging focused?) or is it basically going to be either an app / set of features, or new way of interacting with Meta's existing suite of sites? I'm wondering how isolated it will be for instance, if only "threads" will support federation, or if they'll be making it so that say.. Instagram itself is compatible with Pixelfed etc.
>activitypub and eventual federation with Fediverse/Mastodon While on one hand I'm glad they're going ahead with ActivityPub and show openness to federate with existing platforms , the "embrace extend extinguish" paradigm would do the same thing. They'll initially use fediverse standards, but if Facebook/Instagram/Threads etc.. manage to convert even a handful of their other users to the activitypub standard, they'll become some of the largest fedi projects and instances around. Then, as you see from their ads, they will start to add and change things that aren't in the basic spec, saying we need to extend blank to support our growing features..but its done THEIR way. Sure, other projects can opt out of it but if other Fedi projects and/or clients that don't want to support NewAdBrowserDataThing then they won't be able to be used on Facebook/Instagram/Threads or whatever hot new feature is around. Its a bit like how Google, despite using "open" web standards, has a de-facto monopoly on web browser engines with everything being Chrome/ium powered so if you want to do something in a way that Chrome/ium and Electron and everything else doesn't well… you look like the odd man out and people don't use your stuff outside of a hardcore niche.
It may be that things don't evolve this way or this is a temporary flirtation with the Fediverse, but given Meta/Facebook/et al's behavior in the past and the fact they're looking for any way to monetize again, its a concern. If nothing else, perhaps it will be a bulwark for the Fediverse against Bsky and the ATProtocol if a big company like Meta throws their lot in with ActivityPub and Fediverse, but there is still danger they'll exert outsized forces on the Fediverse if they show up as the biggest fish and start trying to remake the pond to their preferences.
>>20817Oh tumblr realized that wasn't gonna work out, so they've started allowing drawn stuff for the most part, and are gonna fully rollback the ban once they're federated and will be getting posts from instances with no such ban anyway.
>>20818I don't even think small wallad gardens can survive now that federation is an option.
>>21080How does this even happen? It's not like the retard is implementing this by himself. I'd expect at least someone would tell him that not everyone is an anglo.
The only explanation is employees don't give a fuck anymore and do whatever stupid shit he comes up with. Or someone is actively sabotaging the website, which is even better.
>>21083>How does this even happen? It's not like the retard is implementing this by himself. I'd expect at least someone would tell him that not everyone is an anglo.He doesn't listen to reason and pushes whatever he wants,
especially if he gets any pushback. Employees at Tesla and SpaceX have come out saying that in order to get anything done they basically need a team of people to babysit him and be yes men when he shows up just so he won't actually meddle in things (more than they can avoid) and cause tons of problems for everyone. Maybe he was just lucky to have people like that at the previous copmanies where he had that kind of pull. He apparently doesn't have that at twitter.
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