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 No.23740

What is the endgame of the internet archive? An "archive" which refuses to save specific sites? I just tried to check out some articles on the wayback machine for the site compactmag.com and I reveived picrel. I can understand, that an internet archive will refuse to host CP, but why are they blocking pure text sites???

 No.23741

There was a while ago a controversy about some writer forcing internet archives to remove some books because what they did went against IP laws.

 No.23742

It's possible that the site in question asked to be excluded: https://help.archive.org/help/how-do-i-request-to-remove-something-from-archive-org/

 No.23743

>>23742
Hmm, this could be true. Although, the wayback machine actively refused to archive certain websites in the past, like kiwifarms for example. So I wouldn't be so sure about that.

 No.23744

>>23743
based

 No.23745

>>23744
Well, but that's not the point of an internet "archive", to sanitize internet history.

 No.23746

op learns about robots.txt

 No.23747

>>23746
No, OP is learning, that the internet archive/wayback machine are a bunch of hypocrites and liars. And it is quite concerning, that nobody on this glowing ass site seems to care about it.

 No.23748

>>23743
and? it's their right if they don't want doxx on their servers

 No.23749

>>23745
a library doesn't have to hold every book in existence.

 No.23750

>>23747
You're expecting a centralized service to do things, and attributing malice to what can be explained logistically.
Never solely rely on one archive. Maybe you could slap federation onto it, but in the end you'll have multiple archives.

 No.23751

>>23747
lol neurosis isnt good for you

 No.23752

Oh shit, this site is full of glowies defending the so-called "internet archive". It's true, the internet is dead. All this talk about "free flow of information", it was always a big fat lie.

 No.23753

>>23752
i wish i had problems like yours

 No.23754

>>>/leftypol/1798463
>Interesting site I've discovered recently. NATO Zizek and MisanthroLand write for them regularly.
>https://dev.compactmag.com/
Any progress on discovering who owns, operates and controls compactmag, OP?

 No.23755

>>23754
I have some news for you: You can read texts, but you don't have to agree with them. It's called intellectual curiosity. Something what you don't seem to have.

 No.23756

>>23752
nobody cares about you kiwifag

 No.23757

>>23752
No one's defending it, you just have magical (see: logistically unreasonable) expectations of what such a project could entail. The concept of a central, comprehesive index of the web is asinine on the surface, and you want that +copies of old versions?
ヽ( `д´*)ノ

 No.23758

>>23755
Of course glowie. But only glowies constantly push compactmag. Who controls it?

 No.23759

The Internet Archive has always respected robots.txt and manual exclusion requests. If they didn't, they would've almost certainly gotten into hot water by now.

 No.23760

You are all liars! You are pro-censorship! Yet you call yourself "leftists"! This board is sooo rotten. https://www.compactmag.com/robots.txt

 No.23761

>>23760
Why would you even think we're anti-censorship? All right wingers including Democrats and democratic socialists should be censored.

 No.23762

>>23761
True mask-off moment. Leftypol.org/leftychan/reddit - You are all the same. Shitting on the vision of Berners-Lee. It's so over.

 No.23763

>>23760
>>23761
>>23762
stop samefagging

 No.23767

>>23740
You can request to have your aocial media or websites excluded and they always comply, that's likely what happened here. The reason Compact can't be archived is because they've likely asked the IA to block their site, because "muh copyright".
As usual IP laws are cancer.

 No.23796

>>23767
It's fair use, the website's owners just have a retarded paranoia because of the nature of capitalist competition. Also, they expect IA to not go to court so this is essentially equivalent to beating someone who's already down.

 No.23800

>>23796 (me)
After some researching, the status of fair use in the case of Internet Archive is unfortunately unclear. The US laws are so retarded it's not even funny.

 No.23802

>>23796
Archiving a website might be fair use. Making that archive available to the public might not be. In the US, fair use is determined by judges who usually act in the interests of capital.


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