No.24409
Just use seL4.
No.24414
>line count
How long do you think one line is? It's not like a novel.
>Computer systems have become too complex
You need to learn about them to simplify them.
>and nobody actually knows,
People specialize in knowing about individual components and how they interact with other components, often learning about multiple to more finely understand those interactions.
This criticism would apply to any logistics chain too, computerized or not.
>I will try to rely as less as possible on computers.
That is a common trait among computer nerds, ever heard of the one about the shotgun and the fax machine?
No.24415
>>24099Peasant, shut your dumb mouth.
>>24409Sensei, how will a mid-level flailer do this?
No.24416
The difference between normies and nerds: Normies know, that they don't understand computers. Nerds BELIEVE, that they understand computers.
No.24417
I'm in the lucky situation, that I don't need a computer and I don't even need a smartphone. The only device I own is a Windowsphone, which is very limited. And you know what? I don't care! This is my computer! I don't need to watch Youtube, I don't need online banking, I don't need whatever! What even is the point of having a computer, beside reading and shitposting on leftypol? I can't open Pdfs, I can't open epub. Well guess what, the internet is so huge, I just read something different then. Even if Microshit would now brick my device, I wouldn't care. All my valuable things are physical or saved in mind. Years ago, I was thinking different about my "digital identity". No, I don't even have a email adress since 2 years. I will never again be a computercuck and the last days have strengthend my belief. The penguin is dead, there is now no way back. Your computer is holding you in hostage, it is controlling you.
No.24424
>>24419Good point and I understand where you are coming from. There are two types of computing: Computing for the sake of computing and computing to reach a specific goal. In your case, offgrid computing might be the right solution, but in my case, it makes no sense.
No.24427
I'd like to believe all those dozens if not hundreds eyes overseeing the kernel over the decades checking for clean and proper code would prevent any backdoor from making it to upstream.
Also this is why you don't update your system all the time.
No.24428
>>24427It's like a huge Mexican standoff among glowies, each trying to get in their own backdoors while keeping the others away.
No.24456
i feel like this is irrelevant considering backdoors are baked in at a hardware level in most consumer products
No.24457
>>24456You mean inside CPUs? Yeah, I read this claim already on 4chan, but I'm not sure how real this actually is.
No.24510
>>24427>Also this is why you don't update your system all the time.I'm considering moving to Void which uses a "stable rolling-release" model.
No.24835
>>24416Or, nerds know what parts they understand and which they don't
No.24839
>>24510Be careful, runit is shit
No.24840
>>24099Because complex systems are simpler.
The fork() syscall is quite emblematic of this: if offers a very simple and convinient intweface for the easy case in userspace, vut the only way to implement it efficiently is with CoW, with the result that every piece of the kernel that isn't a device driver needs to know about fork() and deal with it.
The inverse case are signals: an extremely simple primitive to implement kernel-side, but they are an absolute mess to deal with in userspace.
And of course, sometimes the solution is complex because the problem it's trying to solve is complex, and no amount of RETVRN to unix will change that
No.24841
>>24099Bringe take. Systems should always be simpler to understand and you don't have to rely on computers to do basic-ass shit but you're overexaggerating the threat that GNU/Linux computers have compared to, say, your classcucked neighbors who'll report you for "sussy behavior." You don't even know how much you're already getting monitored just by living in a society, it's insane. There's, like, cameras and surveillance everywhere, to the point that computers are actually
more private just because you don't actually have to buy political literature anymore, you can get it relatively privately through Tor. The most private way to live imho is Ted's way: you escape into the forest and don't interact with society ever again. Which is the sad reality of the modern surveillance capitalism we live in.
No.24842
>>24839Do you have any actual criticisms of runit?
>inb4 daemontools process supervision is LITERALLY just a while loop Unique IPs: 13