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So something went wrong with last Windows update, it wont boot, recover, or do anything at all, my laptop appears to be completely bricked, Ill have to do factory reset (and even then Im keeping fingers crossed it will actually work). This is the last fucking drop, Im switching to Linux. The thing is, I have virtually no IT skills, so what is your advice? What type of Linux is most noob friendly? I use computer basically just for internet browsing, some graphic software and bideo games.

Unplug it and plug it back in.

>>25779
Why don't you clone your harddrive first

which software are you needing to use? make sure it either runs on linux or there's a linux equivalent you believe to be suitable before you make that switch; same for games. while it's come a long way, make sure whatever you play is compatible on protondb

as for noob friendly distros, if you want something familiar to windows, use linux mint. if you want something fresh feeling, check out ubuntu.

>>25781
Dont know what you mean. Its already formated anyway, had to do it to get my computer working along with re-download and clean install of windows. It appears to download not Windows 10 I had but Windows 11. Pure fucking cancer, wouldnt let me set itself up without creating microsoft account, cant customize its moronic taskbar layout, and it appears to be unable to truly shut down, my mouse light is kept on as if the computer is in sleep mode. Hate, hate, hate.

>>25782
Is it possible to, I dont know, partition my hard drive and run Windows on one portion of it as a sub-OS for the purpose of gaming? Or the WINE thing I heard about? Other than video games, I already relied mostly on open-source software, so there shouldnt be much issue there with transition to Linux. But again, I know nothing about programming, I just want a safe, secure, simple operating system that lets me run bunch of video games and handful of other programs. I am willing to learn more IT stuff, but my free time is limited and I dont want to fight with my computer over basic tasks.

>>25783
>Dont know what you mean
Copy the files to a USB or external harddrive but since you formatted anyway it doesn't sound like you had anything important

>>25783
>Is it possible to, I dont know, partition my hard drive and run Windows on one portion of it as a sub-OS for the purpose of gaming?
yes
>Or the WINE thing I heard about?
yes
you can also run windows in a VM

>>25785
Are there downsides to that? As if not all windows games can be run like that, or questionable performance, similar to console emulators?

>>25782
Did little reading on Mint and Ubuntu, from what I understand Mint is build upon the latter, is there any advantage to using Ubuntu?

>>25786
use lutris and proton (built into steam) instead of wine directly. it's at least as fast as windows but will be broken for some things
https://www.protondb.com/

windows VM will be slightly slower and cannot share a GPU with the linux host, so you need at least 2 gpus

don't use ubuntu, it has snaps, which are terrible

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>>25787
Which Linux OS do you use?

>>25786
Linux Mint is a safe bet for any noob and they try to keep out any of the shit Ubuntu pushes (see the telemetry situation). Debian is the base on which Ubuntu is built and has similarly good support. You can select a working base system and desktop with moderate effort. I would also recommend a systemd-free alternative, but you probably won't appreciate it until the day systemd fucks you over personally.


I installed pop_os for my old dad who hates computers and he likes it so it's very noob friendly, you could give it a shot although I have no idea what the purists think of it. I personally use EndeavourOS which is a user friendly version of ArchLinux, if you go with that you will have to learn and use the console for some things but on plus side you will be able to say "I use Arch btw" on the internet.

>>25792
fellow endeavourfag here, i endorse this 100%.

Which Linux is the most popular one? Or alternatively which of the user friendly ones is the most popular? Im asking because if I search for "how to fix X", "how to change Y", with which system I have the highest chance of someone already dealing with the same issue and figuring out the answer?

Also gaming wise, I have a Lenovo laptop with Nvidia Geforce, is that all right driver-wise? Any issues with Linux there?

Another option, dual boot, so Ill just use Linux and switch to Windows for gaming, is there any downside I should be aware with this method?

Upon further research, I am heavily leaning towards Mint Cinnamon, and putting my faith in God that whatever game I want to play is runable through Wine/Lutris/Proton.

>>25794
>Which Linux is the most popular one?
I would imagine Ubuntu is the most popular Linux Distribution (distro) for both websites/servers and personal use.
>Or alternatively which of the user friendly ones is the most popular? Im asking because if I search for "how to fix X", "how to change Y", with which system I have the highest chance of someone already dealing with the same issue and figuring out the answer?
I believe PopOs is the best candidate for user friendly. It has a nice desktop environment, which somewhat resembles the look of Windows 11. It comes with a store and tries to minimize spooky scary command line actions as much as possible.
>Also gaming wise, I have a Lenovo laptop with Nvidia Geforce, is that all right driver-wise? Any issues with Linux there?
I haven't heard of any, although I hope another Anon more knowledgeable than me can speak to this.

>>25795
Another option, dual boot, so Ill just use Linux and switch to Windows for gaming, is there any downside I should be aware with this method?
Some minor downsides- Less avaliable storage space for your Linux system, since you have to allocate some for Windows. However, my question is what games are you looking to run? With the compatibility of WINE, most games (and apps!) made for Windows can run on Linux, the issue is if the game employs an anti-cheat, which may cause the game to crash. I'ce had experiences with this in games such as Valorant, Helldivers 2, and Destiny. But I've ran other games, such as Borderlands 2-3, Metro Exodus, Overwatch 2, with no problems.
>>25796
Solid choice aswell Anon.

>>25794
>Also gaming wise, I have a Lenovo laptop with Nvidia Geforce, is that all right driver-wise? Any issues with Linux there?
Linux should support nearly all available pc hardware. The quality may vary though, especially for cheap laptop components. Bluetooth firmware sometimes refuses to work while wifi is running. The only point of contention might be power management. Be aware your system can become unresponsive if you try hibernating.

>>25796
Dude, go with LMDE. It's Debian based therefore more stable and future-proof.
I'm also a fan of Cinnamon. It has almost no customization but that's kind of the point, it just works out of the box. KDE is more powerful if you wanna customize your shit but I'm not about that

>>25800
Functionality wise, what is the distinction between LMDE and standard Mint? Why is Debian better, or what actually is Debian and Ubuntu for that matter? If I get used to one of them and wanted to switch in the future, are those skills translatable? In some article I read that Ubuntu is more user-friendly, and more compatible with mainstream propertiary software.

>>25801
LMDE is mint+debian instead of mint+ubuntu. both ubuntu and debian use apt package manager so it doesn't really matter. if it were me i'd choose LMDE because i really don't like ubuntu

For fucks sake, already running into issues, something with secure boot. During instalation there was a window during which I was supposed to pick if I want to set up some MOK key or something, I dont even know because I went to kitchen and by the time I returned the menu timed out and continued with instalation. Then during Nvidia driver installation its asked me for temporary MOK key, which I was supposed to put in during boot after restart, which I didnt do, just clicked continue to boot, which appereanlty just too that option away forever, so the Nvidia driver is now blocked by BIOS. The only way to get around it is to disable secure boot, which for some bizzare reason makes me unable to connect to wifi. Ill have to do OS reinstal again. I really miss Windows XP.

>>25806
All right, solved that one, I think, I can use Nvidia driver, so I guess its solved.
Immediately encountered 3 additional problems: 1st - cant change my monitor refresh rate
2nd - cant switch between integrated and dedicated GPU
3th - on Windows, I had Lenovo Vantage limit my battery charging to 60%, which it did though BIOS, so now even after clean install of Linux the battery never goes above 56%, and I dont even know if its because its actually charged to that level, or if Linux now displays fully charged as 56%, or how to change it.

I am going to waste an entire Saturday trying to fix this thing, but if its still broken come tomorrow, fuck it, I am going back to Windows.

>>25827
2nd problem appears to not be problem at all, I do have both cards functional, I was just for so long used to my old laptop with Inter integrated card I didnt even realize the current one has AMD.
The other two still persist, for first one I had to beg forum to spoonfeed me solution, 3th one is technically working how I want it to, so Im just going to deal with it later.

Now the question for all the big-brains here: How do I update BIOS on Linux for Lenovo laptops?

>>25836
you can install fwupd and use the fwupdmgr command to install firmware updates for various devices including UEFI updates. it uses signed firmware from vendors

you can check the documentation for it at fwupd.org:
https://fwupd.org/lvfs/devices for supported devices
https://fwupd.org/lvfs/vendors for supported vendors (including Lenovo)
also check https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Fwupd for the basic commands and GUI options for updating firmware

>>25836
Had to reinstall Windows to update BIOS.

>>25827
Problem 3 solved, it was just matter of changing value in conservation_mode file. The refresh rate issue though seems unfixable, plenty people posting about refresh rate issues online, but they fix them by updating drivers or other things I already tried.

>>25856
Gave up on trying to change refresh rate. Figured out how to game on Linux, surprisingly easy, Steam lets you launch pirated games through Proton. Havent tried anything from GOG yet though, and I suspect old titles might be an issue.
I dont regret switching OS, the peace of mind I get from not having mandatory updates, telemetry and bloatware infestation is worth the hassle, but at the same time, I dont really feel in control. Every time I need to do anything I have to search internet for someone else doing it, paste the commands, and then having no idea what is it actually doing. Like I install something, dont know from where, to where, what are all the other packages or dependencies, which of the 4 different clean and remove commands should I use to delete in order to uninstall. Its all so opaque.

>>26004
After dicking around with linux for long enough, you will feel more in control and YOU WILL like it. That is the curse of unix. Start by getting a sense of where things are in the filesystem. https://linuxjourney.com/lesson/filesystem-hierarchy seems like a good resource, compare it with https://www.man7.org/linux/man-pages/man7/file-hierarchy.7.html as well. Use apropos to look for commands you might want to use. Read the bash manpage front to back when you feel ready.
>which of the 4 different clean and remove commands should I use to delete in order to uninstall
The remove/delete command should at least uninstall any explicitly specified packages unless the output says otherwise. Most package managers have a special command for pruning unused dependencies. Theoretically you don't have to worry about pruning dependencies and cleaning caches, until you start running out of disk space.

>>26004
>I dont really feel in control
this is a matter of complexity. on average, as the user, the more complex the software is, the less control you are going to have. the software stack required to run games, specially those that were made for a different os, is complex. the only difference is that at least with linux (and open source stuff in general) you can educate yourself and regain control by understanding the simple parts that form the complex stack

that said, most distributions, specially the popular ones, are complex, obscure and even hostile <- this is, paradoxically, the price of being beginner-friendly and "enterprise". you could switch to a simpler distro like gentoo or artix if you want to try fixing things by yourself instead of depending on the community for everything. the stack required to play windows games will still be complex and error-prone

>>26004
>Wayland?
Xrandr just works on my machine with a finnicky 1994 CRT though the built in modelines are wrong.

Wasted entire fucking day trying to get apache server with wordpress working. Had to patchwork together a solution with three different guides, basically guaranteeing something going wrong eventually and me having no idea what exactly. Seriously, a word of advice for all the good people out there making Linux tutorials, tutorials are generally used by people not familiar with the topic being tutorialized, therefore, for the love of god, FUCKING EXPLAIN WHAT ARE YOU DOING AND WHY, DONT SKIP HALF THE FUCKING STEPS.


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