/AKM/ - Guns, weapons and the art of war.

I like the RIA M200. Very Raymond Chandler.
And the Taurus looks like it's something out of Blade Runner.

Sadly, I'm in Britain. So I have to stick with chilli powder and a pocket knife for EDC/ self defence prep. But good thread, anon.

@2244
>thread is about cheap guns
>how dare you recommend a company that makes cheap guns

Been looking for an infographic like this. /k/ makes them all the time, but insert /pol/ tier memes and racism in them.

>>2242
As an addendum to this, buy used! A good deal on a used gun is often better than anything on this list new.

Check your local gun shows as well. Expect to be disappointed, but $5-10 entry is definitely worth it if you find something good.

>>2243
>Sadly, I'm in Britain. So I have to stick with chilli powder and a pocket knife for EDC/ self defence prep.
iktf :(

>>2242
i think i will make an updated/fixed version of this. there are a lot of good non memeshit plastic pistols in the $400 range that could be added. There's also some really dubious shit on there that should be removed, eg the hi point. not even worth including as a joke.

>>2251
suck my dick the hi-point is the people's pistol

>>2253
then the people are doomed lol

>>2255
The 1911 may have won two world wars but the C9 has won a thousand gang shootouts. Sure it's a piece of shit, but so are AKs and people still use them.

>>2259
right but there's no financial situation where it makes sense. if you have enough to drop $200 on a meme gun, you have enough to drop $400 on an actual gun.
If you're broke to the point where the difference between the two makes or breaks it for you, you shouldn't buy a gun in the first place because you'll just go broke from a parking ticket or something.

>ignore the marxism if you can
No, I don't think I will

>>2260
There is no situation where you should ever not own a gun. If the best you can afford is a hi-point then get it, because it'll put holes in people just the same as the gucciest glock

How do I cope as a poorfag from a yuro country with horrible gun laws
The process to get a puny pea shooter with rubber bullets is so long and worthless that I might as well study the blade at this point for self-defense

>>2271
What country? No matter how long it is, you may as well start the process to getting a gun. "A year and a half of waiting" is still better than "never"

>>2271
Get a 3D printer and build an FGC-9

>>2270
dumb advice.

>>2277
>t. comfortable petty booj that demands luxury in all things
buy a gun you fucking tard

>>2278
>t. retard who thinks buying a better gun than a hi-point is "luxury" when it's shitty to the point of impracticability and even the most impoverished third world armed forces can afford better for their men.

It's not sound financial advice to tell someone to drop their last $200 on a gun, and at that level of poverty becoming homeless is a more pertinent threat than le counterrevolution anyways.

if you want a gun and you are that close to the line, buy used. buying a brand new hi point is never the best option.

While I don't know if they're all cheap, race guns are an underrated option. Used to have a ruger I got pretty cheap.

Might look a bit silly but literally a gun designed to be as easy and quick to use as possible.

>>2287
Who is saying to spend "their last $200" on a gun? Stupid fucking uyghur, get off of my board and don't come back.

>>2242
Another option is a class 3b laser. They can blind people. You can get one for less than 50$ online. This is way easier to get for many. They're illegal to use on people. However, in a life or death situation it'll work.
>>2242

>>2323
Anon I'm gonna go ahead and say that 99% of the time a gun is going to be infinitely more useful than a blinding laser. The only time that a laser is going to be useful is at a protest if you want to permanently maim a cop from a distance.

>>2324
or, if you know how to get away, someone important that you don't like.

>>2325
That would also be a situation where a gun would be better than a laser, anon.

>>2242
Hi friends, I just want you all to know that even the cheapest, shittiest red dot on your pistol can turn you from an amateur into a pretty decent shooter.

If I go traveling, where do I leave/store my gun? Its illegal to leave it in a storage unit.

>>2332
At your house

>>2326
surely an invisible and silent laser could be more useful potentially

>>2332
At a gun club or gunsmith. Some storage unit businesses have gun safes.

I have access to a bunch of weird chemicals and fireworks i can stuff in a big bucket

>>2339
You can't shoot someone in the head with an IR laser.

>>2296
If they are actually making savings, and have several hundred dollars, they can simply save for longer to buy a better gun. You are arguing that someone who has at least a couple hundred bucks should dump it immediately on a shit gun and I am arguing that if you can save $200, you can wait a bit to save $400 and buy a non shit gun.

You claim that "no one should ever not have a gun", well, the people who are on here considering buying their first gun don't have a gun, and they've made it thus far in life. One would expect that they could go a little longer without a gun and get a decent one rather than buying some dogshit hi point for half the price.

Your argument makes even less sense when you factor in ammo costs, because if you are training even semi regularly your ammo costs are going to be more expensive than your gun pretty quickly. So let's say you spend $200 on a hi point and then $300 on 1000 rounds of ammo, or you drop $400 on a real pistol and $100 on ~300 rounds. Same cost overall between the two. I can fucking promise you that someone with 300 rounds on a p10c or springfield xd will outshoot someone with a thousand rounds on a hi point. Hell, you can have ten thousand rounds on that hi point and they'll still outshoot you.

You are seriously suggesting that someone buys a SINGLE STACK BLOWBACK PISTOL with an EIGHT ROUND magazine capacity and God knows how bad a trigger, over an actual decent pistol, to skip a few months of saving or get a few hundred extra rounds of ammo. You are STUPID uygha. And at that point you might as well buy a god damn revolver from a pawn shop because it'll be better quality and you'll only miss TWO rounds jesus christ. Fuck off noguns larper.

>>2330
This man speaks the truth. Although if you are going to get a cheap dot, please at least get a nicer one like a Holosun or something. There's no point buying an actual airsoft red dot because it's going to cost you at least a hundred bucks to get your slide milled for an optic regardless so you're not saving that much proportionate to the total cost.

This is from 2015 but still useful, prices have gone up a bit for all of these tho

>>3252
the windicator is usually sold with a 4 inch barrel now and the snub nosed variant is really hard to find

>>3252
here's an updated version

>>3926
as a Swede, burgers being willing to shell out $600 for a used Carl Gustav is a surprise. they go for like $100-150 here